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15 Feb 2018 13:39:58
Detroit Trades
FNielsen

Toronto Trades
DMoore
2nd Round Pick 2018

Thoughts ?

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15 Feb 2018 14:35:49
Doesn’t Nielsen have term left at over $5mill? Why would you bring him in when guys need raises? And there’s rumours that leafs are still interested, if the price is right, in signing JVR long term if they can agree on a number that works for both. Use that money on retaining a top 6 winger? Or a bottom 6 centre?!

15 Feb 2018 15:04:53
I might be wrong, but isn't JVR playing in the bottom 6 now? I know they were mixing up their lines to have balanced scoring options for a while.

15 Feb 2018 16:12:54
I guess he’s technically on the third line, with bozak and Brown but that’s for balance (like kessel in Pittsburgh was) but he’s a top 6 winger on any team in the league without question and great on the pp. The point I was making was that Nielsen doesn’t take anyone’s spot in the top 6 and arguably in the top 9. Why bring a guy with a big contract in to replace Dominic Moore (1.5 mill Pending UFA)? Does he make us that much better and more prepared to beat bruins/ lightning? Nope. I don’t think what he brings is worth missing out on a chance to bring back jvr or to sign an upgrade on D in the offseason. If he was on an expiring contract, I’d be interested because he’s a decent player and can penalty kill and is an upgrade on Moore. But he has 4 yeas after this at 5.25 mill. No thanks.

15 Feb 2018 16:31:24
JVR, Bozak are not coming back, maybe Komarov but next Season F. Nielsen is your 3rd Line Centre and with A. Johnsson in my guess a Leaf next year its a change coming, this is how the Leafs now do business and its smart to move forward this way.

15 Feb 2018 18:09:29
Uh extremely easy no from Detroit imo.

15 Feb 2018 18:10:07
And makes no sense for Toronto to bring in a guy they don’t even need.

15 Feb 2018 19:46:12
Dont under value that 2nd round pick lol.

15 Feb 2018 22:11:12
saying “this is how the leafs do business” is a little weird lol. Since when is it shanahans and lous way to trade draft picks to bring in a 33 year old 3rd line centre owed $5.25 million till he’s 37?! Lol why wouldn’t they just resign bozak for less than that for 3-4 years and he’s 2 years younger and you already know how he fits in and what he brings. Frans Nielsen is not the answer to the leafs lol.

15 Feb 2018 22:20:09
And I’m not saying it’s a good deal for Detroit. Only way they would take that package is if they know they’re going to rebuild and owners don’t wanna pay $20+ mill to a guy while they’re going to suck.

But leafs could give bozak 4 years @ $4 - 4.5 or something. He makes 4.2 right now and likes it in Toronto, lived through the shitty times, would probably like to get to be part of the better times. And he knows his role isn’t top line anymore, he takes big face offs and can do everything Nielsen would do while making less and being a bit younger.

15 Feb 2018 23:07:56
I like Neilsen but I’d rather see Bozak come back. He’s having an off year but that could be beneficial to the leafs in resigning him. Maybe 3m a year for 3 years or something like that. He’s still a very good 3rd line Center, good on the draw and kills penalties. I don’t want them to have to move Nylander to center.

15 Feb 2018 05:55:40
Hjalmarsson + Domi

Gardiner + Leivo

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15 Feb 2018 16:33:36
I don't see the leafs doing that trade though I'm pretty sure Babcock would love a guy like Hjalmarsson on his team.

15 Feb 2018 18:10:39
Man if Toronto is offered that without a doubt they take it imo.

15 Feb 2018 23:08:13
Agree with McJ.

15 Feb 2018 04:51:24
Just a thought how far would a straight up swap as a base be for this?

ARZ: Domi

Van: Beartschi.

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15 Feb 2018 13:07:58
Ahah add Juolevi.

15 Feb 2018 16:12:34
I think Van would need to add a pick to even this out.

15 Feb 2018 19:56:02
Add somthing but not juolevi.

15 Feb 2018 20:46:56
Canucks laugh and hang up. Baertschi is already more than what Domi currently is. Arz would have to add to put this through and I doubt they’d do that.

15 Feb 2018 03:45:10
Galchenyuk foR reinhart
1 for 1

Montreal needs a center and Galchenyuk could change things around for Buffalo. I’d even add a 3rd going to buffalo.

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15 Feb 2018 05:04:05
Not too bad. Galchenyuk to play on Eichels wing and Reinhart to play centre for Drouin. Possible that this creates a pretty good line for 2 different teams.

15 Feb 2018 05:34:10
Yeah and they’re quite similar, both drafted top 5, similar builds and stats. both need a change of scenery.

15 Feb 2018 15:21:51
I'd be all for it!

15 Feb 2018 16:12:49
Galchenyk is literally our best forward rn he's playing really well so nooo.

16 Feb 2018 00:08:29
@mtl4life. That’s the point, he has needed a change for a long time. He’s playing good right now so teams will be more inclined to trade a top prospect for him. Habs have tried to trade him multiple times and teams weren’t willing to pay. He’s playong well but he’s not turning this thing around for the habs. They’re done. Get a 21 year old centreman with a ton of upside and get on with it.

16 Feb 2018 03:24:55
not going to lie this is the best trade I've seen in a while but i still don't know.

14 Feb 2018 23:04:18
#1
The Calgary Flames send Sam Bennett to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Max Domi.

#2
The Calgary Flames send Rasmus Andersson, Dillon Dube & 2nd Round Pick to the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for Sam Reinhart.

#3
The Calgary Flames send Curtis Lazar & Matt Stajan to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Carl Hagelin

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Ferland
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Domi - M Jankowski - S Reinhart
C Hagelin - R Lomberg - G Hathaway / T Brouwer

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14 Feb 2018 23:18:45
I think 1 and 3 are good. but 2nd proposal is giving up a lot of people for one player.

14 Feb 2018 23:45:23
#1 isn’t terrible but I think arizona banks on domis potential over Bennett’s at this point.

#2 I think flames are paying a steep price, but if they really believe Reinhart can turn it around, I guess could be alright.

#3 makes Pittsburgh worse going into the playoffs. Not something Rutherford would do at all. He’s always a guy to tweak and add. Not take a disappointing prospect and a depth veteran for a key part of their team (even if he’s a bit over paid)

14 Feb 2018 23:49:50
#1 . Maybe. Pizza man has some kind of pull with Arizona.
Value is probably close

#2 Sorry, No 2nd round pick for Calgary. That is property of the New York Islanders, so #2 is impossible.

#3 Laughable. Calgary's turn to try to get something useful
for Lazar. Ottawa fans can probably feel the pain
here.

15 Feb 2018 00:26:04
No from Arizona
Big no from Calgary
3rd is interesting, potentially from Pitt but idk.

15 Feb 2018 15:18:57
#1 - i think ARI would want more
#2 - meh, not bad but don't know if BUF would really want all those pieces.
#3 - nope, your stuck with Stajan.

14 Feb 2018 23:00:35
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2018
NYR: Kreider

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14 Feb 2018 23:12:21
Rangers want more easily wow.

14 Feb 2018 23:46:11
Be a good fit for wpg, but not paying enough.

15 Feb 2018 01:52:55
What about an Oiler first? Looking to be 5th overall.

15 Feb 2018 03:03:41
Actually it doesn't fit for the Jets at all. The Jets don't need wingers and won't want his contract around with all contract renewals they have coming up. Plus, I don't think the Jets would trade their first.

15 Feb 2018 18:12:47
How is a late first round enough for Kreider are you an idiot, give me a break.

15 Feb 2018 19:58:06
Its not enough for kreider at all, but i agree with marcusjoe winnipeg is loaded on the wing.

15 Feb 2018 23:34:55
That blood clot thing might be a problem?

14 Feb 2018 21:31:23
Blues:Parayko

Tor: Marner,Kapanen,Lilijegreen

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14 Feb 2018 22:38:22
What? that's lot from Toronto, isn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:06:33
Nice reach Colt. Add Tarasenko for that. Sounds silly doesn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:08:03
Not likely Colt. and its not even close.

14 Feb 2018 23:12:42
Too much from leafs jeez.

14 Feb 2018 23:47:29
Now he sounds like the old colt55! Lol although he would have had a 1st going to the blues too.

15 Feb 2018 02:51:23
The old Colt would never propose trading Parayko guys.

15 Feb 2018 03:03:42
Did you forget to strap up your helmet and put in your mouth guard before you hopped on your computer colt?

15 Feb 2018 05:05:20
@YUP, you’re right. My bad.

15 Feb 2018 15:24:30
Good call Yup.
Ya, Parayko is 100% untradeable for he Real Colt. this new Colt really has a similar stench to GoldenShowers IMO.

14 Feb 2018 20:40:12
Mtl:Patches


Buff:Reinhart

Fair? Mtl get a 22 year old center who isn't living up to the expetatio of a #2 Overall but still very talented. Buff gets a great winger for Eichel and with Mittestad coming up then can afford to lose Reinhart.

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14 Feb 2018 20:51:05
Habs lose here.

14 Feb 2018 21:13:32
Why the heck would Buffalo want one year of a IFA to be old winger? They laugh. Zero need or want for one year of Patches in Buffalo.

14 Feb 2018 23:01:06
What I mean by the Habs lose is that they could get a better return than Reinhart.

15 Feb 2018 01:41:26
Reinhart is crap that's it hell no from montreal.

15 Feb 2018 04:40:23
To you, everyone is crap but The Habs.

15 Feb 2018 05:02:12
Don’t think the value is bad. It’s a young centre who was projected to be a top line guy, still very young with upside. But just a terrible fit for Buffalo. They’re awful and don’t see pacioretty making them ‘not awful’ lol.

14 Feb 2018 18:09:59
Oilers need a right hand damn who can play power play. Suggestions:
Oilers: RNH + Benning (maybe + 3rd Rd Pk)
Wild: Coyle + Spurgeon or Dumba
RNH would be a perfect for the wild. Their current centremen: Koivu and stall (both older and trending down, especially koivu) and coyle who is a good 3rd line centre, and EK who is young.
Spurgeon would look great with Sekera. Coyle 3rd centerman after McDavid and Drai.

Another option:
Oilers: Klefbom or RNH
Avs: Barrie
I believe that Avs have some good young right handed dman coming up. Barrie could be on his way out. They could use Klefbom on the left side. Or maybe they could use RNH on the second line after Macinnon. I prefer the Klefbom and Barrie’s swap.

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14 Feb 2018 21:16:08
Sorry, Trade 1 Way OTL. None of those Wild players are an upgrade for Edmonton. Benning + 3rd for ONE of those players is probably more realistic.

Trade 2, No RNH but Klefbom for Barrie sounds realistic if the Av's put a high pick in to offset Klefbom's longer term cap friendly contract. or perhaps Edm would be content if the Av's ate 1.4M of Barrie's salary so they cost the same and edm takes the asset loss of the extra years of cap friendly service to fill the RHD need.

14 Feb 2018 22:01:00
So Spurgeon or Dumba are not an upgrade on Benning? Go and search the players playing time and stats, and then decide. Oilers need a power play dman.

14 Feb 2018 22:19:53
Pretty good. I think the RNH for Barrie one is pretty close. I think oilers might have to add a bit to klefbom just based on recent play, I think his value has taken a bit of a hit. Although 5 more years of control on klefbom at 4.1 mill vs 2 more years at 5.5 for Barrie may be enough to balance that out.

14 Feb 2018 22:24:58
You’re ridiculous FT4A. So Carrick plus a 3rd gets a top 4 dman or top 9 power forward? Or does it only work for Oiler players? How are these players not an upgrade for Edmonton? Please explain.

14 Feb 2018 22:30:40
Both defenseman are better offensively than anyone on the Oiler roster. Spurgeon or Dumba would fit nice on the Oiler blue line. Get your head out of your ass and realize they are bottom feeders in need for a change. A few very talented players, yes. After that you don’t have much of an argument.

14 Feb 2018 23:14:57
Jeez leafs why so angry
But ya if Edmonton could trade for Dumba that would be lit.

14 Feb 2018 23:20:38
I don’t think the aves would be interested in RNH, they have McKinnon and next year Jost. I’d say they have a pretty good 1-2 punch now and Hopkins is expensive 3rd liner. Value wise it’s pretty good just don’t see the need for aves. Also I’m positive I’m not the only one thinking this but LBRN needs to get a clue! You’re such a oilers homer it’s crazy.

I understand you’re a oilers fan and no one wants to see their team lose a trade but your opinions are just ridiculous! You need to stop watching hockey if you think that Benning and a 3rd will be you dumba or Spurgeon.

14 Feb 2018 23:30:34
RNH > Coyle
Benning + 3rd.

14 Feb 2018 23:31:00
Personally I think the left hand versus right hand defenseman argument is overrated one of the best defensive teams in NHL history had 5 left-handed defenseman in one right handed guy who was a spare part.

14 Feb 2018 23:33:38
Benning + pick / add for any ONE of the Wild players mentioned is a reasonable parallel trade. All those wild players are pretty average at best, but so is Benning.

Unfortunately as soon as you try to name RNH in the trade the VETO / Abort button lights up and gets hit. You will have to name a different player in the trade other than him.

As explained in a previous post that it seems mr/ ms Leafs17 for some reason still can't grasp the concept of is he is a core piece that plays hard minutes in all the difficult situations, is long term signed, is a fan favorite, is only 24 with 441 games of experience already.

Most importantly. The GM would probably lose his job trading him as he is on VERY thin ice over the Eberle asset liquidation last year. The teammates, GM, and coaching staff are all on record emphasizing how valuable RNH is to the team so throwing him in for a few average players back won't cut it.
It is doubtful he will get traded unless an elite #1 D-man is dangled of which Barrie, Spergeon, and Dumba are definitely not.


Trade 2

Oilers with the big $$ signings last year can't take on a Salary increase next season, so Barrie retention, or 2nd roster player (s) to offset the salary difference would need to be in the Klefbom for Barrie deal. This does sound like a realistic trade that might need a minor tweak.

I agree that Klefbom's poor play has diminished his value.

14 Feb 2018 23:44:28
Sorry McJ, FT4A has been trolling for too long. This is the same guy that values every oilers player above and beyond anyone in the league. Hopkins and Benning would require Karlsson just to get the conversation started.

15 Feb 2018 04:01:20
Who is FT4A? Leafs17, you got the wrong guy. How am I over valuing the oilers in this trade?
Plus, what the hell do u mean with your comments about karlson? I’m sorry man but you are making no sense here.

15 Feb 2018 04:14:32
Spurgeon and Dumba not being an upgrade on Benning is officially the dumbest argument of the week! Unbelievable. And yes leafs17, this is the same guy who said only way RNH could end up in Ottawa is if it was for Karlsson!

15 Feb 2018 05:12:23
FT4A/ let's be real now lost all credibility with that nonsense last year when Karlsson was a top 5 player in the league. Now he’s just making sure the credibility never has a chance to return.

15 Feb 2018 07:15:34
Sorry Oil fan, my comments were towards Let’s Be Real Now (FT4A) . Your proposals were ok. FT4A changed his name but still spews the same garbage. The veto comment is exactly the way FT4A would speak.

15 Feb 2018 14:11:54
Oh! Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it!

15 Feb 2018 16:11:29
Not sure what an FT4A is. ? Is that special code for something?

Sorry if there is a disagreement from the Eastern biased peanut gallery over this, but realistically that trade won't go. Benning + pick for one of those players is a decent realistic trade. Trade listed improves Minni, but Edmonton loses big time overall.

If RNH is going to be moved, I suspect it would be a 2 or 3 asset by Edmonton for 1 asset back type deal netting a #1 Dman or 1st line player to compliment McD. Not for 2nd pair / 3rd liners. Edmonton already is loaded with those types of players.

15 Feb 2018 20:08:42
Wild and avalanche say no.

15 Feb 2018 23:28:54
So how is coyle/ Dumba/ Spurgeon not worth more then rnh they actually play for a winning team and have staal granlund koivu sucker suter praise nino (not attempting that last name) and still put up good stats. Edmonton sucks they have Mcdavid and drai but drai is way overrated imo so keep your garbage nobody wants em you will draft high again and lose because you’re a horribly managed team.

16 Feb 2018 00:14:31
FT4A is the name you used to use and aren’t man enough to admit it. You know this big guy. And yes, madeindade, chirello will just f it up anyway. Sit back and watch the show.

14 Feb 2018 17:13:53
LAK: Clague

Van: Vanek.

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14 Feb 2018 23:03:26
Lol A099. Not getting Clague for Vanek. As you are not getting Heiskanan for Tanev.

 


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