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19 Jul 2019 15:47:04
I actually think this would be a very solid hockey trade that benefits both teams a lot. If you don't like it please elaborate I think this would be a good idea for both teams.

Rangers: Mika Zibanajad- 26 years old 2018-2019 stats 82GP 30G 44A 74P ( on a weak Rangers roster ) 5.3 mil for 3 years

Buffalo: Sam Rienhart- 23 years old 2018-2019 stats 82GP 22G 43A 65P ( improved every season but had benefit on playing on stronger roster ) signed 1 more year at 3.65 mil

Buffalo gets the stronger current better player to Centre the second line and provide secondary scoring and can play wing is Middelstad/Cozens breaks out

New York is a young retooling team that is going to take abit of time to compete so they get the younger player that's improved every season.

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19 Jul 2019 11:03:54
Oilers: Jesse Puljujärvi , 3rd round pick

Rangers: Buchnevich

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19 Jul 2019 15:15:36
Big no from rangers Try going after Kriender. Buch is untouchable.

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19 Jul 2019 09:24:26
To NYR - Jesse Puljujärvi, Ethan Bear, Zack Kassian & First Round Draft Pick

To EDM - Chris Kreider

NYR add to their impressive rebuild and get tougher while adding ready now young guys and a 1st. NY sheds cap aswell.
EDM adds a top 6 f to play with McDavid or Draisaitl while balancing their 2 top lines.

To BUF - Kris Russell, Joseph Gambardella & Second Round Draft Pick

To EDM - Rasmus Ristolainen

BUF recieves a prospect who may crack the roster coming off an impressive year in the AHL, a 2nd and a top 6 defencemen who is solid defensively and can absorb shots.

EDM gets a big top 4 defencemen who is still young.


Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Kailer Yamamoto

Chris Kreider - Leon Draisaitl - Alex Chiasson

Milan Lucic - Markus Granlund - Jujhar Khaira

Joakim Nygard - Gaetan Haas - Sam Gagner


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Rasmus Ristolainen

Evan Bouchard - Matt Benning

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19 Jul 2019 09:46:35
Just stop! The first one is a huge overpayment! Jesse 1st round pick, mcdavids sidekick kassian for a rental?!

Btw drai play first line with mcdavid not RnH.

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19 Jul 2019 15:17:27
Too much for Kriender replace the 1st with a 2nd and Take our kassian but I like the idea and I like the 2nd Trade good post and Swechamps right.

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19 Jul 2019 04:05:13
NYR: Chris Kreider

STL: Robby Fabbri, Klim Kostin, 2020 2nd round pick

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19 Jul 2019 10:08:08
Don't think Kreider is worth that much, Kostin is a very solid young player.

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19 Jul 2019 15:17:59
Retain 50% on kriender.

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19 Jul 2019 02:47:14
MTL: 3rd 2020,Hudon,Weise

Nash:Turris

MTL take a not so great contract but gets a guy who could be a solid top 6 for MTL. If not then mtl gets a cap dumps and will need to dump him in a couple of years. It's a gamble for both teams imo but Nashville gets 6 million of the cap to do whatever they please with. MTL might get a 50 point center for another 3-4 years at the cost of a 3rd, Hudon and Weise and a not so great contract. Any thoughts?

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19 Jul 2019 14:56:08
I think it's crazy to take on Turris contract at this point for free anyway.

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18 Jul 2019 16:07:18
MTL: Suzuki,Brooks,Weise

Buff:Ristolainen

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18 Jul 2019 16:35:24
I think Habs would rather keep 2 really good prospects, plus they already have a strong right side D Risto would be on the 3rd pair and that’s not the best place for him.

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18 Jul 2019 17:28:47
Habs don't need RD, our left side is a weakness though.

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19 Jul 2019 02:41:52
Petry is able to play left. Risto and Petry would work really good.

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18 Jul 2019 13:22:09
Buffalo Trades
SReinhart
Ristolainen
Olofsson (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020 or 2021

Toronto Trades
Marner
Borgman (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2020 (Ottawa's Pick)

The 2020 or 2021 Pick will be decided by the Sabres before the 2020 Draft.
Ottawa's Pick was obtained in the Zaitsev, CBrown Deal.

I have posted other combo trades with Marner going to Buffalo.
It's to me what each Team is looking for Player wise and Cap wise.
Buffalo would love to have Marner to play with Eichel as well as unload Ristolainen.
Toronto is up against the Cap with the Marner situation but still have a few holes, this Trade fixes the holes except backup Goaltender and keeps them under the Cap.
It's a Trade that makes sense for both Teams.
Sabres will still need a 2nd Line Centre with Sheary + going somewhere to get that.


Thoughts ?

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18 Jul 2019 19:57:40
Huge no from leafs a Ristolainen buy out would hurt the leafs a lot can’t be paying him 5 million for the 3rd pairing maybe if he’s versatile he could be the 3rd line RW like Burns did but doubt it.

Rather take him out of the trade probably holds decent value to other teams tho.

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18 Jul 2019 20:36:46
VB, Risto becomes instantly the Leafs best D-men ahead of Morgan Reilly. It's not even clost.

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18 Jul 2019 21:39:17
Reilly is LD and better than Risto.

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18 Jul 2019 21:50:54
Ohh yeah then he instantly becomes the best player on the raptors, the new pitcher on the blue Jays, Best player on the Toronto Rock and the Quarter back for the Toronto argonauts. He probably takes the title from Drake as the best rapper in Toronto too.

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18 Jul 2019 22:41:02
I really wish you were the GM of Montreal Mantha. All of Ristos d partners are better when they don't play with him. If a guy makes all his partners worse then there is a common denominator.

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19 Jul 2019 09:22:37
@vbbbvvbb

Ristolainen is a 24yr old 6"4 215lbs RHanded Shooting Defenceman that averages 46points a year and you would buy him out?
He has been on a crap Team that has thrown him to the wolves at a young age, believe me Teams would want this guy including the Leafs.
Put with someone like Rielly I bet he is much better including Babcock coaching him.
He hits like a truck to and will fight if he has to.
Everything lacking on the Leaf Defense.

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19 Jul 2019 09:23:10
Mantua are you really saying risto is better then Reilly that's just crazy talk.

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19 Jul 2019 15:14:23
I’m in on Ristolainen. Leafs can’t afford him right now but I think I’d like his style. Defense always take longer to develop. He is still young and could round out his game still.

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19 Jul 2019 15:21:13
Risto is very good at 2 things playing offensive hockey and playing physical. He’s terrible defensively no denying that I actually think he’d be a better winger like Brett Burns. He could be really good on the PK also as a forward with a strong development camp.

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18 Jul 2019 05:20:20
Marner
For
Nurse

More needed obviously. Just think Leafs need to shore up D and McDavid with marner would be cool to watch - as a hockey fan...not as a Wings fan.

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18 Jul 2019 07:50:29
Oilers Fan here

And its a big no from Toronto, imi would say marner is the best player on Toronto.

It would be like trading drai for someone like trouba.

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18 Jul 2019 11:26:56
Terrible trade for the leafs, Oilers need to add more (such as RNH, Puljujarvi, and a good prospect like Bouchard),

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18 Jul 2019 12:24:53
The amount of pieces Edmonton would have to give up for Marner would not be worth while for oilers probably something like

Drais And Bouchard for Marner And Lilijgren.

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18 Jul 2019 18:17:12
So two pieces for two pieces VB? Lol not going to happen.

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18 Jul 2019 18:41:01
Drais isn’t a piece he’s a core player but who knows what’d he’d do without ever playing on a line with McDavid. 70 points?

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18 Jul 2019 19:59:29
Doesnt draisaitl center his own line vbb? Plays with McDavid on pp's. Draisaitl is a better overall player than marner.

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18 Jul 2019 21:51:44
No he was mostly LW on McDavids line and is with him on the top pp.

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19 Jul 2019 01:36:45
Neither team can afford Marnerso not even worth debating the trade.

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19 Jul 2019 01:56:41
Funny how Vb always craps on Draisaitl saying he wouldn’t be so good without McDavid when Marner jumped 30 points after getting put with Tavares. The bias is joke worthy.

Draisaitl is a guy who can easily hold down center all year, his contract is better than what Marner is going to sign for, and skill wise, I’d say he’s as good or better then Marner. In a Draisaitl for Marner swap the leafs add, not Edmonton.

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19 Jul 2019 05:21:09
Tavares is garbage Marner jumped 30 points because of development. I’d easily do this deal for Tavares.

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19 Jul 2019 09:21:13
Drais is better then marner.

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19 Jul 2019 09:33:58
I think he’d be an 85 point guy without McDavid. 16 points in 13 PLAYOFF games running his own line the other year.

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19 Jul 2019 10:05:20
Tavares is garabage? Are you for real VB? He's in the top 5 for best centers in the league and that's not even debatable.

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19 Jul 2019 15:23:46
Ebsouletly he was an absolute beat in the playoffs I’ll give him that but Marner is a better player. Marner is better defensively although Drais is actually good in his own end and Marner is more dynamic. Difference is while Marner definitely has more talent Drais is bigger and plays Center.

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18 Jul 2019 01:50:47
To NJ:
Marner, Ceci, Petan, Sparks
To Leafs:
Hall, Severson

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18 Jul 2019 10:09:56
Your username says it all. Add Lilijegreen from Leafs and take out Sparks.

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18 Jul 2019 12:29:01
Hall has very little value would rather do a mark stone like package. UFA’s also get way more money he’s probably looking for 13+ million on his next contract. This is a huge no from leafs 1 season of Hall and a garbage defenceman ( not really but I’d rather see him bought out then play on the leafs I do not like him. )

Try Nico Hischer++ for Marner.

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18 Jul 2019 12:53:06
It's a big no from Toronto. But VB, Hall still has a ton of value. The reason it's a no is because of age and the fact that Hall is a FA in one year. You don't give up Marner when your main piece coming back is a player with one year left.

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18 Jul 2019 16:15:43
I’ll rephrase-Hall has low value in proportion to his talent/ impact to the game considering his lack of term control. Leafs could probably get him for something like

Sandin, Bracco And a 1st at the deadline if New Jersey is out of a playoff spot by the deadline and Hall won’t resign. Same value as Mark stone imo but that’s a better package then what stone got.

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17 Jul 2019 22:14:46
Buffalo Trades
Ristolainen
Olofsson (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020 or 2021

Nashville Trades
RYJohansen
2nd Round Pick 2020

1st Round Pick 2020 or 2021 is the Sabres choice before the 2020 Draft.


Thoughts ?

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17 Jul 2019 21:43:46
Apparently teams around the league wouldn’t take him for free accord Pierre Lebrun he worded it as “ The Sabres are trying to move Ristolainen but there are currently no takers “. So this is a fat no from Nashville.

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17 Jul 2019 23:21:50
Buffalos price on Ristolainen is extremely high from what I heard, which is why there are no takers. I’m sure there are teams which would take him if they had a price of what he is not how they used him/ pumped up his numbers with a ton of PP time.

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18 Jul 2019 10:08:43
And some teams around the league wouldn't take Nylander a for free, VB. Gimme a break.

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18 Jul 2019 10:50:22
Risto is easily worth a first and A prospect.

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18 Jul 2019 10:51:03
From Detroit he's worth Larkin, and from MTL he's worth Kotkaniemi. From Toronto he's worth Nylander+Lilijegreen.

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18 Jul 2019 11:31:29
wow Mantha you are spare parts bud.

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18 Jul 2019 12:32:18
Well the way Pierre worded it makes it seem that way I’d agree a team like Edmonton could use him for there PP but definitely not Toronto I’d do Barrie for Risto and a 1st for Cost control and to add a physical presence but Barrie would need to go.

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18 Jul 2019 16:19:18
We get it Mantha from the stars he’s worth Benn and Seguin from the Oilers he’s worth McDavid. From the Rockets he’s worth Harding and Westbrook.

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