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23 Sep 2021 13:12:48
To Calgary Flames :
RW - Oliver Bjorkstrand ( 5.40 @ 5 Years )

To Columbus Blue Jackets :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 2 Years )
First-Round Selection in (2022)

Reasons -
Calgary needs a RW, Columbus needs a C. Both players are 26 years old so there’s no age gap. Monahan has more offensive upside, Bjorkstrand has more defensive upside, it balances out.

PAST 3 SEASONS

Bjorkstrand
2018-19 | 36Pts in 77 Games
2019-20 | 36Pts in 49 Games
2020-21 | 44Pts in 56 Games

Monahan
2018-19 | 82Pts in 78 Games
2019-20 | 48Pts in 70 Games
2020-21 | 28Pts in 50 Games

( both players have had some injury history )

Patrik Laine - Sean Monahan - Jakub Voracek
Gustav Nyquist - Max Domi - Jack Roslovic
Boone Jenner - Alexandre Texier - Yegor Chinakhov
Eric Robinson - Sean Kuraly - Kevin Stenlund

Zach Werenski - Adam Boqvist
Jake Bean - Andrew Peeke
Vladislav Gavrikov - Dean Kukan

Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk
Blake Coleman - Mikael Backlund - Oliver Bjorkstrand
Andrew Mangiapane - Tyler Pitlick - Dillon Dube
Milan Lucic - Brad Richardson - Trevor Lewis

Noah Hanifin - Chris Tanev
Nikita Zadorov - Rasmus Andersson
Juuso Valimaki - Erik Gudbranson.

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23 Sep 2021 13:38:29
Value wise it seems pretty good, maybe even a tad high from Calgary.

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23 Sep 2021 14:14:49
Way too much from Calgary. You're selling very low on Monahan.

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23 Sep 2021 17:04:00
I’d probably rather Bjorkstrand based on recent performance, contract and age, but that 1st is a question mark so if Columbus thinks it could be good then I think they do it.

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23 Sep 2021 18:18:17
No way Calgary adds it would have to be the other way around with Columbus adding a first.

The age difference is only 6 months. Columbus would be getting a center who's scored 20+ goals every year but one (last year when he was playing injured) and 30+ four times.

Bjorkstrand has gotten more points than Monahan exactly once. Last year (again when Monahan was playing injured) . Most other years Bjorkstrand's goal scoring and point production were nowhere near Monahan's.

Bjorkstrand does have a better career plus/ minus but he was playing on a defense first team too.

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17 Sep 2021 12:48:43
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Kerfoot
Mikheyev

Washington Trades
Kuznetsov*

*Capitals retain 800k each year of Kuznetsov's remaining contract.

Yes Rielly and Mikheyev will both be UFAs after this season but Washington is in the win this year position, and adding a Top 2 Defenceman, a good 2way Centre and an underated Winger with speed plus solve the Kuznetsov issue, I believe Washington would jump on this proposal.

The Leafs solve a few problems, Cap Space to just get them at the limit with this proposal, Rielly and Mikheyev probably walk after this season one because of contract the other saying he wanted out and to be traded, yes they weaken there Defence but this opens the door to play both Sandin and Liljegren fulltime and give Dermott more playing time, plus Kuznetsov is a huge upgrade at Centre over Kerfoot.

Thoughts ?

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17 Sep 2021 17:30:48
Washington would never, ever make this lopsided trade. It could possibly be a Kuz for Kerfoot with the Caps keeping to pay $800 000 for Kuz. Plus Rielly will want way more then he is worth on his next contract which the Caps can't afford.

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17 Sep 2021 17:45:56
So, what you seem to be saying is, Kerfoot isn't really a good 2 way centre, and he needs to be included in everyone of your trade proposals, as well as the other team retaining money, all in order to help the Leafs.

Sure thing.

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17 Sep 2021 17:57:56
Washington won't be trading Kuznetsov for a rental Rielly. Sign him to an extension first for no more than what Kuznetsov makes and they probably consider a 1 for 1 trade.

They might be interested in Mikheyev too but Kerfoot is a cap dump and Washington is a contender. Contenders don't take on cap dumps.

You need to stop trying to package a bunch of Toronto's problems together and dumping them en masse on good teams for good players. If you want to get rid of them move Kerfoot to a non contender with cap space and trade Rielly to a contender / want to be contender as a rental for picks and prospects or a lesser player. Rental Rielly isn't worth nearly as much as he would be on a contract with some term.

Mikeyev could be traded to a lot of teams.

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17 Sep 2021 18:28:33
Heck Calgary would probably do Monahan for Rielly. That'd be a mistake for the Leafs since they don't need another top 6 center but a top 6 center to play 3rd line is what you keep trying for.

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18 Sep 2021 01:36:43
I don't mind Reilly as a 3-4 dman. It is a big stretch to consider him a top 2 though.

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18 Sep 2021 02:31:34
Geez, is this a Leaf fan? Trying to unload players that are way overated that nobody else wants.

THOUGHTS? DUH LOL.

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18 Sep 2021 12:13:20
In my proposal I am trading Toronto's best Defenceman, there 3rd Line Centre that would be a #2 on Washington, plus a 3rd line Winger who can skate with anyone for a Player Washington is looking to unload for the right price.
Yet it's still not enough in some people's mind, Washington isn't a maybe make the playoffs team they are built for a run to win this year, which some teams like Washington go for it, nobody can honestly say this season, not talking about after this season, but this season Washington doesn't have a better team to possibly win The Cup making this Trade Proposal?
If you say it makes them a weaker team than you have never seen Rielly, Kerfoot and Mikheyev ever play.

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18 Sep 2021 14:41:19
Pinball if you actually believe half of what you say you are delusional and need help.

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18 Sep 2021 14:54:17
MoxNix
You constantly say I am delusional yet I rarely see you defend why my proposal isn't fair etc.
I don't think Kuznetsov is in the same category as Evander Kane, but if Washington was offered that, and it's well known Washington isn't dumping Kuznetsov but they would love to trade him for assets, and getting that package is a good package they would at least consider, Washington is in the win today mode not hey what happens after this season mode, that's where you are delusional, it's not a trade with Detroit for Dylan Larkin with Detroit rebuilding.

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21 Sep 2021 16:50:05
Hey Pinball, Washington has been trying HARD to trade Kuznetsov. I understand the trade from their point of view.

I don't know why the leafs would want a troubled Kuznetsov at 7.8M x 4 years though? I think they'd rather get a D-man back for Rielly. Kuz has some issues, and I just don't understand why your leafs would want to add another big salary scoring forward to the mix.

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16 Sep 2021 23:07:46
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau @50% retained

Philadelphia trades:

Wade Allison
2022 1st round pick

Treliving waited way too long (by 2-3 years) to try trading Gaudreau. The closer he gets to UFA the more his value drops. By the time the trade deadline comes around he should still be worth a first as a rental.

Calgary gets a young right shot RW with good size who plays a Sutter style game for right now and a first round pick.

Philly gets Gaudreau now with the retention making it easier to absorb his cap hit for this year. They'll have no trouble signing him to an extension for less than he'd sign anywhere else too.

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17 Sep 2021 00:30:38
Not enough imo. I think Treliving thinks like a monkey and let's Gaudreau walk during FA.

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17 Sep 2021 02:11:12
Yeah Treliving is bad enough to let Gaudreau walk and get nothing for him in the end.

What really worries me is he'll do something even stupider, like sign to a ridiculously high long term contract or worse yet trade away half the rest team for Eichel and keep Gaudreau.

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17 Sep 2021 08:50:25
Gaudreau 9.0 @ 7 years sounds about Treliving.

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21 Sep 2021 16:59:31
- Philly can't fit him under the cap, even with CGY withholding 50%

- Cgy seems to be in "do something now" mode. Sutter didn't come in for a rebuild, and I'm not sure Treliving would be chosen to rebuild the team anyway.

- Allison is injured.

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21 Sep 2021 22:16:43
No doubt Philly can find someone they'd be happy to move if they have Johnny at half price replacing him. That's why I suggested %50 retained, to make that part easy for them.

The Allison injury just happened hopefully it's not too serious.

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22 Sep 2021 13:24:40
I wouldn't call trading Gaudreau a rebuild.

More like fixing a problem. Allision (assuming his injury isn't long term) is about ready for the NHL now with the size and play style Sutter wants.

LW is the Flames strongest position with Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Dube and even Looch not to mention a few LW prospects who are NHL ready too.

Even with retaining 50% the Flames will still gain ~3 mil in cap space plus a 1st round pick which can be used towards a trade for a top 6 right shot RW.

Coleman should be a good middle 6 guy but the Flames could still use a top line right shot RW.

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15 Sep 2021 11:55:02
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Kerfoot
Mikheyev

Vancouver Trades
JT Miller
6th Round Pick 2022

Vancouver improves huge in this Trade and Toronto solves what to do about Rielly and Mikheyev wanting out, it makes them stronger upfront as well as helps there Cap.

Thoughts ?

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15 Sep 2021 21:26:40
Vancouver says no. They can't afford to resign Rielly, all their young current and pending RFAs and take on Kerfoot's contract too.

Besides Miller is a core player for Vancouver on a reasonable contract and Pettersson's production fell off a cliff when Miller was out. They need him a lot more than they need Rielly.

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11 Sep 2021 21:30:18
Flames: Jonathan Huberdeau and
2 round pick

Florida: Gaudreau

J Huberdeau - E Lindholm - B. Coleman
M Tkachuk - S Monahan - A Mangiapane
J Pelletier - M Backlund - D Dube
M Lucic - T Lewis - T Pitlick

N Hanifin - C Tanev
J Valimaki - N Zadorov
O Kylington - C Mackey

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11 Sep 2021 22:49:10
It'd take more than Gaudreau to get Huberdeau.

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11 Sep 2021 23:30:13
Lol what? Did you mean Tkachuk? Huberdeau is so solid all around as a player and is a PPG+ player on a cheap deal.

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12 Sep 2021 03:00:35
Real head scratcher. Why would Florida want to do this. Gaudreau is washed up, Huberdeau is a top 20 player.

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12 Sep 2021 11:35:29
Florida definitely says no but did you seriously call Gaudreau washed up? You know nothing about hockey bud.

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12 Sep 2021 14:28:22
This is a terrible trade from Florida. Huberdeau would probably be one of the most talk about players if he played for a more popular market. But I do agree Gaudreau isn’t washed up but his style of play is not the best unless he has a pure finisher on his line.

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14 Sep 2021 23:42:01
are you high? i wouldn't even do huberdeau for gaudreau straight up let alone adding to huberdeau. calgary adds for sure.

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15 Sep 2021 03:10:48
Gaudreau is a great player but doesn’t have contract term to convince a team to pay a premium for him.
In my mind, he has slightly more value than Rielly.

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15 Sep 2021 19:14:07
Yes Gaudreau is washed up. There is no way I'm trading a high end player for this smurf.

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16 Sep 2021 04:46:22
BOSSMAN67 you do realize that for the past 5 seasons Gaudreau is #15 in points and Huberdeau is #21 while playing with Barkov…. Just saying. For you to say Gaudreau is washed just shows how much of a casual you truly are. Put Gaudreau beside Barkov and he’d be much higher in points. Gaudreau plays with Monahan lol and carries the heck out of him, Monahan is good but he ain’t no Barkov that’s for sure.

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16 Sep 2021 04:49:50
Just saying, for the past 5 season Gaudreau is #15 and the players behind him are Tavares, Barkov, Malkin, Giroux, Backstrom, Huberdeau, Aho and Rantanen… do your research before you speak.

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17 Sep 2021 02:00:32
Gaudreau doesn't carry Monahan, but Monahan couldn't cover for Gaudreau's deficiencies like he usually does while injured himself.

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17 Sep 2021 14:11:21
Ah yes Guadreau out produced Mathews and Aho when they were rookies 5 years ago what a huge accomplishment. Out producing a human piece of glass in Malkin is a even bigger accomplishment. In all seriousness tho Guadreau is a 1 dimensional offensive wingers and is a top 10 playmaker in the game. Put him on a line with a hardworking goal scorer and a solid C then he will be back to 99 point form. Problem with Guadreau is he needs the right linemates to succeed. He will have a short career imo. He will retire before 34.

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17 Sep 2021 20:08:38
Gaudreau for Rielly. He'd be the perfect fit with Marner and Matthews. They'd all score 100+ points during the regular season and vanish in the playoffs.

I'm kidding, but the GM in Toronto might be dumb enough to do it. The question then would be is Calgary's GM smart enough to do it too?

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18 Sep 2021 13:57:22
Just looked at PPG not just points in the last 5 seasons and Huberdeau sits 15th and Gaudreau sits 21 and Huberdeau is the better 2 way player so just saying this is a little too lopsided on Calgary favour.

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10 Sep 2021 01:25:06
Arizona:
Morgan Rielly D
Timothy Liljegren D
Nick Robertson RW

Toronto:
Josh Doan RW
Jakob Chychrun D

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10 Sep 2021 05:20:50
Chychrun >> Rielly
Doan >> Roberterson

Liljegren isn't nearly enough to make up the difference.

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10 Sep 2021 06:14:11
Arizona asks for Matthews and tells you what to do with your trash.

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10 Sep 2021 06:33:39
Shane Doan got the privilege to draft his own son and you think Arizona would flip him months later? Bruh.

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10 Sep 2021 13:07:14
Can someone please tell me how Josh Doan>>Robertson? Both are 2nd round picks. Robertson played 1st line in his D+1 year for USA at the U20 WJC where he had a strong showing. He then became the youngest player in leafs history to play a playoff game. He was then held back from the leafs to go back down to the WJC because he already proved himself there. ( a mistake imo ) .

Doan is a few years away Atleast from the NHL where as Robertson will probably be top 6 on the leafs.

Am I crazy because I have no clue how someone could possibly thing Josh Doan is currently a better prospect. Not to say Arizona would move their hometown boy for PR reasons but that’s just a crazy statement imo.

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10 Sep 2021 14:49:13
It's obvious enough it shouldn't need to be said.

Besides being an early second round pick vs a late second round pick Doan is bigger, stronger, younger and he's a right shot which is harder to find than left shots like Robertson.

A right shot forward with good size vs a left shot shrimp.

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10 Sep 2021 16:06:27
Blues would offer the following for chychrun.

Scandella (cap and a 4 5 dman)
Perunovich ( better version of dunn)
1st 2023 unprotected.
Alexandrov ( yound 2c center almost nhl ready)

That beats your offer.

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10 Sep 2021 18:21:35
No doubt 29 other teams would beat the offer in the original post too.

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10 Sep 2021 18:40:23
Draft position means very little many players like Kucherov, Guadreau, Webber, Karlsson, Rinne and Vais vastly out live there draft position. He was drafted 2 years ago and is miles ahead in development then plenty of 1st round pick in the 2019 draft. Let’s not forget he missed the 2020 draft requirements by a hair so really if he were to be picked in 2020 he would’ve been a top 20 pick after a 55 goal year in the OHL. Robertson is guaranteed to be a NHL player. Doan is not. Size and Strength can be built by hard work. Skill, IQ and Talent are much harder to come by. Bigger doesn't mean better. Look at Freddy Gauthier. He went before Guadreau but does that mean he’s better then Guadreau?

No buddy is taking Doan over Robertson. Literally nobody. Robertson cracked the top 50 prospects rakings 2 years in a row now.

I hope your good with your hands @MoxNix.

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12 Sep 2021 03:05:05
I'd take any player over any Maple Leaf.

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12 Sep 2021 18:39:41
Thats not enough for Chych, and the Yotes won't trade Doan because of Shane Doan, but to say Josh Doan is more valuable than Robertson is laughable.

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15 Sep 2021 22:29:54
So. vbbbvbb . you have claimed Robertson is guaranteed to be an NHL player. was that based on his 4-5 shifts so far?

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16 Sep 2021 20:47:19
Considering what the Leafs have at LW, he probably will get a chance to play there this year.

With Hyman gone the best LW they have returning is what? Engvall?

Engvall and Robertson would have trouble just making the roster elsewhere. In Toronto they're likely to be top 6 since they don't have the money for a decent LW like oh say Hyman.

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07 Sep 2021 19:11:22
Thinking Habs still need help on 3 rd line center.
Thinking Habs trade Drouin.
MTL
Drouin

SEATTLE
McCann

McCann can play center.
Hoffman McCann Armia as 3rd line.
Not bad. Also makes less $ than Drouin.
If Drouin is a great player when on his game. But maybe playing in Montreal might be too much pressure for him.

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07 Sep 2021 21:28:14
I don't see why Seattle does it. They could have had Drouin for free, I think they'd stick with McCann.

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07 Sep 2021 22:36:12
I think Drouin is considered very risky. He is a really good talent, who just hasn't been able to figure out how to be consistent with that talent. Like MeMarcus said, Seattle could have had him, but chose not to. McCann is the much more safer player, and I believe the Krakken stay with him. He may produce more on this team, and he continues to improve into a reliable 2 way guy. Drouin is jus such a wild card .

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07 Sep 2021 23:53:57
McCann has had a couple solid seasons so it’s not an exact comparison but could he be Seattle’s Karlsson? He could end up being there first line center or there third. Either way I think they keep him.

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08 Sep 2021 05:46:10
Drouin needs to come back and perform before he can be traded for any type of a return imo.

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07 Sep 2021 18:32:59
Ott- Logan brown

Stl Sandford 2023 3rd.

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07 Sep 2021 22:18:04
A roster player AND a pick for a guy who can't even crack the Sens roster?

Dream on.

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08 Sep 2021 02:06:19
More points than Hanifin….

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08 Sep 2021 02:19:57
Yeah, I have to agree with MoxNix here.

Brown has size, but is there something else to his game? I haven't seen it yet.

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08 Sep 2021 11:20:33
Who has more points than Hanifin? Lmao cause it certainly ain’t Brown.

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08 Sep 2021 14:24:38
I am a blues fan. This trade could serve two purposes. 1 getting a large 4th line center that is young and league minimum. 2 trading sanford would free up about 1 mil in cap which will be used later on. Brown is also a stl native and could use a change of scenery. Blues have kostin and neighbors (both lw) coming up and they are better than sanford.

Blues fans would say yes - would OTT fans say yes.

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10 Sep 2021 12:21:56
Sorry meant his numbers are similar to Valimaki not Hanifin. Brown is worth at least a 3rd just on potential still.

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10 Sep 2021 12:57:02
@Websjac No he doesn't. Unless you're counting AHL points vs NHL points.

Besides comparing a center's points to a defenseman's points is comparing apples to carrots.

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10 Sep 2021 23:18:19
They’re very close in value. So would you sell Valimaki for a 2nd/ 3rd and bottom six player.

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11 Sep 2021 01:21:21
They're not close in value and no I wouldn't trade Valimaki for a lowball offer like that.

Valimaki unlike Brown has cracked an NHL roster. At a younger age in spite of defensemen taking longer to develop than forwards.

Valimaki still has plenty of talent and upside. Brown can't even crack the Sens roster in spite of them being in such desperate need for centers.

Valimaki isn't being shopped though he could possibly be traded for something that improves the team now. It'd probably take an overpay though because Treliving is really big on Valimaki (more than he should be IMO) .

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12 Sep 2021 17:43:48
Sanford is middle six plays 2nd 3rd line. He is a nhl player and a 3rd in a good draft.

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