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23 Oct 2021 15:22:32
Mitch Marner

For

Matthew Tkachuk

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23 Oct 2021 15:55:08
Calgary says no way.

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23 Oct 2021 16:49:29
That's a tough one. The Tkachuk's are greedy, but Marner is greedier. Tkachuk is barely worth his contract now and definitely won't be worth his next contract. While Marner isn't anywhere close to being worth his contract now and won't ever be in the future. Tough, tough call.

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24 Oct 2021 11:36:45
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Tkachuk is FAR more valuable as a player than Marner. He has about 75% the skill as Marner but about 500% the physicality and tenacity. Zero chance the Flames would do this.

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24 Oct 2021 15:47:39
I was wondering how long it would take for chirp and yepp to make their presence after the 5-0 start.

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24 Oct 2021 18:18:58
They Both Need a change of of teams they are only $1.5 million apart in salary
Both Teams need a change in nthe rosters
both players are similar in age.

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24 Oct 2021 21:02:09
Fair trade for both teams and the both Need it.!

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24 Oct 2021 22:45:48
@Ourwillie The last thing Calgary needs is another soft "playmaking" winger who disappears in the tough games.

Calgary needs more players like Tkachuk, not more players like little Johnny.

On top of that Marner isn't worth anywhere near what he gets paid. He might be THE most overpaid player in the entire league.

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22 Oct 2021 21:51:49
New York Rangers:

Ilya Mikheyev RW
Travis Dermott D

Toronto Maple Leafs:

Vitali Kravtsov RW
Libor Hajek D

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23 Oct 2021 12:26:23
The leafs would need to add. Kratsov is a first rounder so a 3rd (borderline 2nd) pairing dman isn't going to cut it. But, I fair deal of Robertson and a 3rd for kratsov is a much closer probability.

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23 Oct 2021 13:08:41
Kravstov isn't that good and refuses to play in the AHL to get better. Mikeyev is a better player right now and if he ever finds a consistent scoring touch he's a lot better.

Hajek I'm not sure about but Dermott the defenseman Leafs fans are always trying to get rid isn't worth very much.

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24 Oct 2021 11:37:32
Krav is better.
leafs would need to add. NYR won’t just give him away.

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22 Oct 2021 05:23:16
Both players are struggling:

Oilers: Yamamoto

Hawks: Strome.

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22 Oct 2021 11:00:32
Wouldn’t it be better to keep Yamamoto? Edmonton needs wingers not centers.

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22 Oct 2021 15:35:53
Strome shoots left, play Hyman on the right wing (he shoots right) and Strome on left wing.

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22 Oct 2021 18:42:48
I agree Yamamoto has been struggling but his sample size is still pretty small. He’ll be a solid third liner with second line 50 point potential I think. Though Oil say no because he makes half of what Strome makes.

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24 Oct 2021 11:38:21
Value is there, just not sure either team is ready to pull the trigger just yet.

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25 Oct 2021 03:04:08
They will Need Yamamoto when they look to trade for a goaltender, n that will nbe there trade bait .? Mike Smith is already out 1.5 to 2 weeks, Remember He is almost 40 years old, and Miko Kosskan is Very inconsistent, and Skinner is 1.5 years away from being ready for the NHL.!

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21 Oct 2021 15:20:18
Tarasenko
Thomas
Mikkola
2023 first

To Buffalo

For JE

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22 Oct 2021 00:06:48
I assume "JE" means Jack Eichel. In that case, not nearly enough. IMO.

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22 Oct 2021 03:46:12
What do you want?

You expect a team to give a ton not knowing if he will ever play again? Demands are way too high.

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22 Oct 2021 20:06:10
to be honest this is one of the better proposals I've seen. Critiques about Eichel also apply to Tarasenko to a lesser extent.

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23 Oct 2021 04:58:26
Maybe never play again? Is that a possible outcome? Hasn’t this surgery been done in pro sports? I think the package will include a conditional and a non conditional pick though.

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23 Oct 2021 12:27:49
Ebsolutely with any surgery there is always a chance of never playing again.

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23 Oct 2021 16:26:37
Lol okay there’s also a chance of a career ending concussion every time you step on the ice. It sounds to me like Eichel will for sure be playing again and a good chance with the surgery he wants won’t affect his play.

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24 Oct 2021 22:52:51
The longer Eichel is out the less he's worth.

If the Sabres keep winning more without him than they ever did with him pretty soon the whole league is going to realize the real problem in Buffalo was Eichel all along.

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19 Oct 2021 17:01:18
To buffalo :
S. Girard
J. T. Compher
A. Newhook
1st pick 2023 Conditionnal
1st pick 2024 Conditionnal

To colorado
J. Eichel
1st 2025 conditionnal

If Eichel don't play this season the 1st 2023 became a 5th rnd
If eichel don't play the 2022-23 season the
1st round 2024 falls and buffalo give their 2025 1st round.

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19 Oct 2021 20:55:43
Way too much for Eichel imo.

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20 Oct 2021 17:49:26
Besides Eichel's injury cap space might be the biggest problem with this.

Girard makes 5 mil/ year, Newhook and Compher both make less than 1 mil/ year. Combined the three of them make 6.833 mil. Colorado has only 23k in cap space, they'd need another 3.15 mil plus to fit Eichel's 10 mil/ year in.

It might be more appealing to Colorado if personm Kadri was going the other way instead of Newhook and Compher but Kadri has a M-NTC with a 10 team no trade list.

Buffalo said they won't be retaining any salary on Eichel either.

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20 Oct 2021 19:16:00
Compher makes 3.5M for the next 2 years. Value isn't that far off and Girard may get pushed off that blue line with Makar, Toews and Byram as the top 3 for the future.

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20 Oct 2021 22:09:25
hockeydb has Compher listed at only 925k. Looking closer I see that contract expired in 2019 but they don't list his current contract.

I looked him up on CapFriendly just now, you're right the current contract is 3.5M. That makes the cap hits closer.

Girard yeah I was thinking pretty much the same thing about him.

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21 Oct 2021 12:54:02
On cap friendly Compher is at 3.5 M for 2 other years
With the performance bonus to Newhook total will be even.
Girard 5M
Compher 3.5M
Newhook 925k + 600k (bonus)

NO retain salary
The only bet is when Eichel will play and all draft pick is around this.

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21 Oct 2021 19:57:36
The problem with this is beyond this season with Nathan needing a new contract.

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22 Oct 2021 13:05:58
The same year Erik Johnson and Nathan Mackinnon contract comes to end
Give the 6 M from EJ to Mackinnon and he will have 12.3 M to give to him. For that is not a problem.

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18 Oct 2021 12:36:21
Devils Trade
Zacha

Leafs Trade
Kerfoot
Dermott

Thoughts ?

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18 Oct 2021 12:59:05
I say devils take that honestly.

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18 Oct 2021 16:12:46
Devils say no.

Zacha is bigger, younger, gets paid less (for this year anyhow) and scored more points than Kerfoot did in each of the last 2 years.

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18 Oct 2021 22:12:47
MoxNix must be back in 1943 welcome to the new world where players like Yamamoto, Caufield, Diebrencat etc are key players. Size means nothing. Sure bigger players have the potential to hit more but Zacha isn’t necessarily a physical player. I’ve played hockey all my life which clearly you haven’t. I’ll tell you 1st hand small players can knock a bigger player down easy. In bantam I remember when Jaxon Bellamy ( QMJHL ) being like 6.4 went in on a rush on dumped the puck in the corner and Lucas Cormier absolutely lit him up while he had posetion of the puck. This kid was maybe 5.9 at the time if that. That kid was solid. No one could knock him off of his feet.

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18 Oct 2021 23:38:42
NHL and minor hockey are obviously not the same. While it’s definitely not the first thing to look at, size is still something teams want.

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19 Oct 2021 00:47:40
@Nylander Obviously you never watched Theoron Fleury play.

You need stop acting like you know it all and talking to down to everyone who disagrees with you. You're an ass.

Size still matters and it isn't just about how much or how hard they hit. IN GENERAL bigger players are harder to push around and can take more punishment than smaller players.

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19 Oct 2021 00:56:36
Just in case someone thinks my saying @Nylander is an ass was going to far.

Nylander is the guy who thinks it's ok to compare others on here to Richard Ramirez a serial killer, serial rapist, kidnapper, child abuser and burglar.

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19 Oct 2021 03:29:06
I compared your narcissism to his that’s all. Like Richard you attach your self to outlandish ideology’s similar to him. For an example saying Marner is worse then Mathew Tkachuk is crazier then anything Richard believed but similar to him you’ll fight for your opinion to your last breath even though logic says otherwise.

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19 Oct 2021 18:15:23
Just stop projecting your own issues onto others. Nobody wants to hear your crazy dimestore psychology.

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19 Oct 2021 18:54:14
Boys Boys Boys if you are all guys, this is just a fun post I posted either you agree or disagree, no need to attack each other.

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14 Oct 2021 15:27:53
Florida Trades
Gudas

Toronto Trades
Dermott
Holl

Florida gets better depth on Defense.

Toronto gets a tough Defenceman which they need.

Thoughts ?

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14 Oct 2021 16:14:28
Florida wouldn't do this trade as they like having a physical, second pairing d-man. Dermott and Hol have a $3.5 mil cap hit while Gudas has a $2.5 which in this NHL makes a big difference.

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14 Oct 2021 22:34:01
I think I'd rather have Holl over Gudas to be honest.

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15 Oct 2021 17:28:20
We don’t like honesty around here Sosa, lol. You’re supposed to bash every player that’s not on your team and defend your own players even if they’re garbage.

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15 Oct 2021 17:35:21
Holl>Gudas for the price. No from Toronto. Both are about the same, Gudas more physical, Holl more mobile. Holl’s slightly cheaper so I wouldn’t want to give up Dermott AND Holl for a single dman. Even of its to get Lily playing time, i’d rather just ship Dermott for a mid round pick from soneone in need of dmen (Vancouver? ) to recoup assets.

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15 Oct 2021 19:07:44
Tough call. It's true Toronto does need to get tougher but I don't think I'd trade Holl for Gudas, not even straight up.

Holl isn't great but he isn't bad either. He might not be as tough as Gudas but he isn't soft (unlike certain other Leafs defensemen) . Holl has good size plays D first and is willing to hit or take a hit.

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12 Oct 2021 12:05:51
To Calgary : Phil Kessel ( 50% Retained Salary )

To Arizona : (2022) Second-Round Selection, Walker Duehr and Erik Gudbranson

Kessel brings in good leadership and playoff experience. Arizona acquires more future pieces to contribute to their rebuild. Gudbranson is just for cap reasons, he’s currently signed to a 1 year deal @ 1.95 AAV.

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12 Oct 2021 15:43:02
To be honest I have never heard the words Kessel and good leadership in the same sentence.

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12 Oct 2021 18:09:03
No thanks on Kessel. I'd rather keep Walker Duehr, he showed well in camp and as a right shot RW with good size who plays a physical game he's virtually certain to get called up soon.

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14 Oct 2021 14:32:30
This is awful for the Flames.

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15 Oct 2021 17:24:02
First time ever agreeing with balsam.

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