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10 Oct 2024 15:29:57
Flames pick up Lillgren from Toronto and Toronto retains 40%. In addition Calgary sends Joel Hanely to Toronto for a 2025 4th.

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10 Oct 2024 13:41:28
Toronto: liljgren... chicago: Reichel. Forward for defenseman that need a new start.

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08 Oct 2024 22:43:42
Sharks Trade
Granlund

Leafs Trade
Kampf*
Liljegren


*Kampf will have to waive his NTC if SJ is not on his list.


Cap Wise is basically a wash with this proposal, yes once Jarnkrok, DeWar and Hakanpaa are ready to be activated there will be more moves, but for the now it truly gives Toronto 4 solid Lines imo.



Thoughts ?

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09 Oct 2024 00:11:50
Whats wrong with Kampf? Why is he included in every single trade you come up with?

If this isn't a cap saving move then it means you think Kampf isn't good enough to hold his own as a PK specialist.

If it will cost Toronto Liljegren just to attract a team into taking Kampf, wouldn't it be easier to just hold onto him and see how the season starts out?

Since the Leafs haven't even played a single game this season nevermind played one with the lines they want to roll, how can you say this move gives them 4 solid lines?

Overall thoughts, you once again forgot that the Leafs are forward heavy and don't need a scoring forward if it's going to cost them a PK specialist and a right handed defenseman.

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09 Oct 2024 12:28:13
DrwDave
Holmberg, Lorentz, McMann, and DeWar once he is healthy that easily replaces Kampf is why, they still need to make moves at the bottom forward position once Jarnkrok is also healthy.
Liljegren is a depth Defenceman for Berube and again once Hakanpaa is healthy there are too many Defencemen keeping Liljegren.
Granlund gives Toronto 3 Solid Centers in my proposal.

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08 Oct 2024 14:49:52
I wonder 8fmanyon3 could create a post or 2 that w o under somehow be beneficial to the Leafs, maybe to provide them some cap relief, as well as giving them a decent player?
Preferably the proposal would have the Leafs giving up at least 2 of the following players, Kampf. Lilljegren or Robertson.

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08 Oct 2024 18:00:20
Should have proofread

I wonder if anyone could create a post or 2 that would.

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12 Oct 2024 05:41:15
I’m pretty sure every trade that Pinball will post for the foreseeable future will include Kampf, Lilly or Robertson…in some combination…and it will be for a “decent player”.

It won’t be realistic, cap compliant, or fair value for the team not called the leafs, but I suspect you’ll get a frequent barrage of “cap dumps for a player” trades👍.

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07 Oct 2024 14:48:09
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano

Toronto Trades
Kampf*
Jarnkrok
Liljegren

*Leafs retain $400.000 a year of Kampf's remaining 3 year contract.


Leafs solve a few things with this proposal, Cap Space, and a Top 6 Winger in Vatrano.
Ducks long term get the better return in this proposal, having as much Cap as they do this doesn't hurt them at all.



Thoughts ?

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07 Oct 2024 17:07:06
Toronto is already over the cap with Pacioretty and Lorentz signed.

They also have a log jam at LW with Knies, Robertson, Pacioretty and even Cowen and Alex Nylander. They don't need Vatrano but they do need cap space.

Kampf and Jarnkrok have modified NTCs which may include Anaheim as 1 of their 10 no trade teams since they're on a playoff team already and wouldn't want to play for a bottom feeder.

You could offer Liljegren to Anaheim for future considerations to make cap space, but then again Anaheim has no need for him on their RHD depth and the Leafs are short of RHD depth already.

Overall thoughts are you woke up this morning and didn't seem to notice that the Leafs roster is forward heavy and in no need of a scoring winger.

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07 Oct 2024 19:32:42
DrwDave
Cowan is back in Jr and Alex Nylander is going to The Marlies.
Robertson is going to play RW not LW, or you can put Vatrano at RW.
DeWar and Hakanpaa will be on IR and Philip Myers a RHanded shooting Defenceman made the team.
This fits the cap and adds upfront imo.

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08 Oct 2024 16:41:06
So 37-goal score (60 points) for 3 cap dumps, one of whom is expected to miss several weeks?

Yep…that’s a pinball trade for ya👍.

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07 Oct 2024 03:08:46
Mtl- gallagher 25% retain, dvorak, 1st pick cgy/fla , 2nd pick clb 2025, primeau

Cbj- melzekins, olivier

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07 Oct 2024 15:53:21
MTL declines.

Even though Gallagher & Anderson are not worth their salaries anymore, cap space isn't an issue for the Habs in this stage of their rebuild.

Both can be traded when they're on expiring contracts in 3 more years. There's no need to recklessly trade assets to clear cap space when it isn't needed. If anything, the Habs will likely help other teams clear space in exchange for picks or prospects.

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07 Oct 2024 19:32:24
We got to play those youngster, im tired of worned out, overpay players on the bottom 6.

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08 Oct 2024 14:25:39
Olivier would be a good add for most teams for their 4th line. The thing with the Habs is their young prospects to fit the role of a 4th liner besides the younger of the Wifi brothers. Habs are still a few years from being back in the playoff hunt so they can hold onto! He aging pieces and hope they bring their stock up to unload at the deadline or the draft.

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05 Oct 2024 03:03:26
Montreal should revisit Zegras trade
Mtl offers:
Mtl 2025 1st round (top 10 protected)
Fla 2025 1st round
Filip mesar
To ducks for
Trevor Zegras
Montreal lines for 2026
Slavkosky Suzuki laine
Zegras dach caufield
Demidov Newhook Roy
Gallagher beck or evans kapanen

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05 Oct 2024 18:44:13
I'm not sold on Zegras . I'd entertain that trade for a lesser cost.

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05 Oct 2024 19:18:56
If I’m MTL, I pass.

The kids has loads of talent, and while he’s only 23, he just doesn’t seem like the kind of guy you “win” with. (Winning will be the only measure of how MTL’s rebuild will be judged. )

I also think that ANA will want two more pieces, like a young D (which the Habs have lots of) and one more prospect.

Regardless, if ANA moves him, they’ll get generous return for this talented kid👍.

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06 Oct 2024 23:18:33
What about reinbacher for Zegras? I’m not sold on reinbacher… never was , passing on mishkov for him was an equivalent of taking kk instead of tkatchuk or Quinn Hugues!

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04 Oct 2024 04:49:08
OTT - Ulmark, 1st
BOS - Swayman.

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04 Oct 2024 17:55:20
Seems odd from Bostons perspective considering they just traded Ullmark instead of Swayman.

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04 Oct 2024 17:59:37
Hey EBS, your deal is fair, value-wise, but I just don’t think it would ever happen. Ulmark moving twice in a short time like that just wouldn’t look good on either franchise.

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05 Oct 2024 06:09:29
Ulmark might be happy to come back who knows. Odd for sure though. Boston probably regret there decision at this point.

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05 Oct 2024 19:27:53
I agree 100% EBS! When they traded Ulmark before signing Swayman they committed the worst unforced error I’ve seen since some of Dubas’ beauties!

I’m sure Swayman’s agent is still laughing hard at Sweeney handing him all the leverage. 😁.

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07 Oct 2024 13:11:49
So Boston receives:

Linus Ullmark
2 1st round draft picks
Joonas Korpisalo
Mark Kastelic

And all they need to do is trade Swayman?

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07 Oct 2024 18:47:15
Yeah except not Ulmark. Lol and Korpisalo is a cap dump at 4M.

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03 Oct 2024 13:56:08
Leafs Reade Kampf, 50% retained to CBJ for a 7th round pick in 2029.
Leafs trade Lillj3gren to Sharks for a 5th in 2028
Leafs trade Robertson to Ducks for a 4th in 2027.

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04 Oct 2024 18:00:45
These look fair to me👍.

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02 Oct 2024 13:53:01
LAKings Trade
Clarke

Toronto Trades
Kampf*
Liljegren
Timmons
Hildeby (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026

Toronto retains 50% of Kampf's remaining contract.


This is not just a Cap Trade but also a hockey trade for both Teams, with Doughty out getting both Liljegren and Timmons will help right away from the backend, Hildeby is close and The Kings don't have that young depth in Goaltender and Hildeby might just be the best player in this proposal.

It's really a lot to give up for The Leafs, but with a Cap issue this fixes it and getting Clarke with such a high sealing it's worth the cost.


Thoughts ?

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02 Oct 2024 15:57:53
There's just no real upside on this for LA. They've developed Clarke and are looking at him to start logging bigger minutes and playing a bigger role. Losing Doughty sucks obviously, but they will likely address internally or maybe trade for someone like Timmins as a stop gap until Doughty comes back. The last thing we should be doing is unloading Hildeby. We finally have some promising young goalies in the system, him being the best one. Let him have another good year in the AHL and if injuries happen we bring him up and give him a few games to see how he's fairing. Hopefully next year he's ready to make the jump to be a full time NHLer.

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02 Oct 2024 22:50:59
Pinball, you won't get Clark for that package.

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03 Oct 2024 03:04:00
Or LA could just continue you to develop Clarke and give him more opportunities on the PP with Doughty out.

And I think you meant Clarke has such a high ceiling it's worth the cost.

And you're correct, Clarke has such a high ceiling it would take a much better return for LA than 3 role players on the Leafs roster, a goaltender prospect and a late 1st round pick.

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03 Oct 2024 10:36:02
To add to what MG, Euro & DRW said, there’s also the salary cap issue. While Doughty will be on LTIR to start the season, he’s officially listed as “Month to Month”, so when he comes back they’d be over the cap.

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22 Sep 2024 23:24:02
Pittsburg Trades:
Tristan Jarry

Ottawa Trades:
Linus Ullmark

Thoughts?

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23 Sep 2024 20:03:26
Why would Ottawa trade the Vezina winning goalie they just traded for.

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24 Sep 2024 19:26:49
This would never happen.

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26 Sep 2024 22:42:27
Ullmark for Jarry?!? lolol. good one. Get off the pipe.

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