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25 Jun 2019 20:12:00
TOR: Mitch Marner, Nikita Zaitsev, 2nd 2020

VAN: Brock Boeser, Quinn Hughes

Just cause people are posting Canucks to Leafs rumours I figured I'd give a semi reasonable one.

Is this closer than Petterson and Hughes for Marner?

CWGS

1.) 25 Jun 2019 21:36:33
Values probably closer but i couldn't see any world where 2 younger cheaper assests would be traded to a rebuilding team for marner. It just opens up more holes in an incomplete team.


2.) 26 Jun 2019 00:12:17
Yah value isn’t terrible I’ll admit I exaggerated in my last proposal/ value gauger to prove Marner is worth a little bit more then Pettersson. This trade value wise is pretty close.


3.) 26 Jun 2019 06:01:03
Difference between Boeser and Marner is not Canucks taking a horrible contract and sending a blue chip prospect to TOR.


4.) 26 Jun 2019 11:07:12
The_Triplets I think you really underrate Marner who would you say he has about equal value to in the league.


5.) 26 Jun 2019 15:11:05
You guys are smoking something I swear lmao, this isn’t even close.

Zaitsev’s contract kills any value that 2nd had and Marner doesn't get you Boeser and Hughes, he doesn’t get you Pettersson and Hughes, he doesn’t get you Pettersson and Boeser, he doesn’t get you Horvat and ‘insert player here’, okay, stop with these stupid proposals. Marner isn’t the greatest player to lace them up and he definitely doesn’t get you 2 star players. **** off with this rubbish.


6.) 26 Jun 2019 15:19:23
It's hard to gauge his value when he has no contract. If he signs for $9.5 he would be unreal! If he signs for $11.5 it would make a big difference.
I know Kucherov signed his deal but has a completely different tax situation. But playing in Toronto has a different opportunity to make money as well in advertising and marketing. That could help bridge the gap.


 

 

25 Jun 2019 05:20:43
TOR: Mitch Marner, Nazem Kadri

CBJ: Pierre Luc Dubois, Seth Jones

Let's have some fun. Potentially some picks could be involved. What do you think? Too much on CBJ side or too much on TOR side? Could you see a trade between the two teams happening?

CWGS

1.) 25 Jun 2019 07:41:17
No way CBJ does this and why would they.
Jones as a top 5 D in the game is already worth a bit more than Marner, imo, then factor in that Marner will earn easily double what Jones gets and it's a slam dunk in Jones' favor.
Not even talking about PLD having waaay more value than Kadri.
Why on earth would Columbus do this.


2.) 25 Jun 2019 07:42:20
maybe add 1st or 2nd from toronto.


3.) 25 Jun 2019 09:34:34
Uhhh just no. Not realistic at all


4.) 25 Jun 2019 10:44:07
Not even close. Marner>Dubois but Jones >>> Kadri. Toronto adds A LOT.


5.) 25 Jun 2019 13:18:07
Why not compare Jones to Marner and Kadri to Dubois?

Marner=Jones. Dubois>Kadri.


6.) 25 Jun 2019 14:09:57
Easy no from Columbus. Jones plays the much more valuable position, Jones>Marner and Dubois>>>>Kadri.


7.) 25 Jun 2019 16:39:23
Woah VB, Dubois already tied Kadri’s career high in his second season. Dubois >> Kadri.


8.) 25 Jun 2019 17:19:00
Vb, maybe if marner was signed to the same contract jones is, they would be equal. But like triplets said, it’s likely that marner will sign for more than 2X what Jones gets paid.


9.) 25 Jun 2019 20:05:22
What should the leafs add to make it more fair? Would a first do it? Or would it have to be someone like Kapanen/Johnnson?


10.) 25 Jun 2019 21:40:38
Remove kadti and add reilly, that would make it more fair.


 

 

16 Jun 2019 05:32:21
Leafs: Patrick Marleau

Panthers: James Reimer

This might work after July 1st if Sergei Bobrovsky signs with Florida. The leafs could potentially throw in Sparks if the Panthers want a goalie back. If Sparks is included I think the panthers would have to retain a bit of money (because of the salary and length, Marleau signing bonus being paid, and Panthers overabundance of goalies). Could work for both teams. The Marleau family might like it more than Toronto and it's closer to LA (I know its still far but its better than Toronto) and with their roster he still has a legitimate shot at a cup. Reimer comes back to TO where he had success and could/would be a solid backup option.

Thoughts?

CWGS

1.) 16 Jun 2019 06:28:19
From what's out there, it seems like FLA wants to add big in FA (Panarin, Bob, maybe more) . Why would they take on Marleaus contract then? There's a cap, you know.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 05:24:57
That's why I said after July 1st. This would happen only if Panarin signs somewhere else. It's unlikely but I think it's got potential. Especially given the fact that Florida could use him as a "big name" (Even though he isn't that big anymore) to please fans.


 

 

19 Apr 2019 02:17:26
TOR: Nazem Kadri, Connor Brown, 1st or 2nd 2020

PIT: Phil Kessel

Just cause I want maximum chaos and this would light Toronto and Toronto media on fire. Especially with a Toronto lineup of

Johnsson - Matthews - Kapanen
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau/Moor - Nylander - Kessel
Marleau/Moor - Gauthier - (Marlies or new version of Ennis)

MAXIMUM CHAOS!!!!

CWGS

1.) 19 Apr 2019 19:43:19
Why? To all of this. Why is Kessel on the third line? How would this work with Toronto's salary? Kessel's contact has a NTC and a NMC clause, why would he want to go back to Toronto were the worst years of his career were?


2.) 19 Apr 2019 19:58:32
@TyBa4

1. He'd want to go back to Toronto to win 2. He wouldn't have a choice cause I would assume Toronto is not one of the 8 teams on his no-trade list. Kadri and Brown are basically the equivalent of Kessel's salary, and Kessel is a top RW in the league which Toronto would love to have. He's on the third line because Matthews is a scorer and putting two snipers on one line wouldn't work, Nylander is more of a playmaker and would probably work well with Kessel.


3.) 19 Apr 2019 21:19:22
Cap space from the leafs POV makes it a no go. Trades will need to be made to replace/ Make space for the following.

-Mitch Marner ( 10+ million )
-Jake Gardiner ( Dermotte takes his spot but someone needs to play on the third pairing )
- 1RD to replace/ resign ( Hanisey )
- Kappanen ( around 5 mil )
-Johanson ( around 4 mil )

According spotrac. com the leafs will have roughly 27 million in cap space so this could be manageable but it’ll be cutting it close.


4.) 19 Apr 2019 23:25:27
Vbbb use cap friendly to get your info it's much more accurate.


5.) 20 Apr 2019 07:21:39
Cap friendly doesn’t know what players will sign for habby.


6.) 20 Apr 2019 14:06:51
Capfriendly only show cap for this season and I wasn’t feeling like doing the calculations myself.


7.) 20 Apr 2019 19:54:01
Did you ever look at it? It shows the caps for 7 seasons on my devices. And leafs 17 who said they would show what players will sign for? They are a cap site not a magical wizardry site.


8.) 20 Apr 2019 21:30:33
Well maybe it’s different on the computer.


9.) 20 Apr 2019 22:33:49
I don’t know what I was thinking habby. I read something backwards. My apologies, I thought maybe you did think cap friendly was magical.


10.) 21 Apr 2019 01:35:23
It's the same on iPad too vbb not sure about on phone though.


 

 

03 Apr 2019 22:05:14
Leafs: Auston Matthews, Andreas Johnsson (and/or) Kasperi Kapanen, 1st round pick some year?

Edmonton Oilers: Connor McDavid, Jesse Puljujarvi

I know this would never happen, but it's kind of realistic and fun. It would also be insane. Leafs may get to keep one of Johnsson or Kapanen.

What do you think?

CWGS

1.) 03 Apr 2019 22:39:50
Leafs would have to add to that.


2.) 03 Apr 2019 22:47:03
Add Reilly, then maybe. I personally still wouldnt.


3.) 04 Apr 2019 01:12:23
Its going to be Auston + Mo/ Mitch for Connor by himself. i'd rather build round our core tbh than give that up for Connor, but Edmonton won't sell him any cheaper.


4.) 04 Apr 2019 18:14:42
Thats not enough for Connor, but to just throw it out there to see what you guys think, how far off is the value in a Matthews+Nylander for McDavid?


5.) 04 Apr 2019 20:49:22
Matthews + Nylander = not a chance lol at all. Especially with the season Nylander is having lmao brutal.


6.) 05 Apr 2019 03:11:34
Nylander turns the puck over every time he touches the puck most games. He should’ve been a big boy and not listened to daddy when he decided to hold out.


7.) 05 Apr 2019 15:44:13
The thing is neither team would make this trade oilers would not trade mcdavid and leafs won't pay what it will cost.


8.) 07 Apr 2019 13:11:43
Leafs would be better with McDavid but at what cost?
Leafs are strong at Centre and RWing but much thinner at LWing, the Leafs are strong at LDefence but thin on RDefence, so in the off season those are the areas they should look at, at the same time they have Drafted and signed some good RHanded DMen but they probably aren't ready for another 2 years from this season, so to me the McDavid possible Trade won't be what they are looking into even though he would be great in the Blue and White.


9.) 08 Apr 2019 10:07:15
Lame.
McJesus is great. Is Mathews reeeeallly that far behind?!? No.
The "upgrade" from mathews to mcdavid isn't worth it in this "fun" deal.


 

 

 

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09 Apr 2019 01:10:56
I posted something similar like a week ago and thought I might change it up a bit.

Leafs: Auston Matthews, Andreas Johnsson (and/or) Kasperi Kapanen, 1st round pick some year?

Edmonton Oilers: Connor McDavid, Milan Lucic, Jesse Puljujarvi

I know this would never happen, but it's kind of (maybe?) realistic and entertaining. It would also be insane. Leafs may get to keep one of Johnsson or Kapanen. You could also argue throwing in Zaitsev or Brown on top of this.

What do you think?

CWGS

1.) 09 Apr 2019 02:03:26
I think the biggest challenge facing the Leafs (and Tampa, Winnipeg, etc. ) is the salary cap and trying to pay (keep) your stars but also surround them with a good enough supporting cast to be able to compete for a championship for as long as possible. To do so, every dollar of cap space needs to be used efficiently. As good as McDavid is, Lucic is pure dead weight at this point (and frankly, one of the reasons Edmonton missed the playoffs again despite having the best player in the world and a 50 goal scorer in Draisaitl) . Unless there was a guaranteed way to bury/ rid yourself of that contract, it’s almost like what’s the point.


2.) 09 Apr 2019 05:31:12
Leafs would have to add Sandin, or Lillegren. and maybe more. I've watched quite a few Oilers and Leafs games. there is a larger gap between McDavid and Mathews than I originally thought.
As much as it would be great to add a player like McDavid, best for Leafs to stay the course, they are miles ahead of Edmonton with what they have, Tavares as number one Center, Mathews as 2nd line Ctr. pretty damn good. would have to alter the team to much to get McDavid.


 

 

25 Jan 2019 02:27:45
Okay Leafs Nation, we need to chill. William Nylander is a damn good hockey player who is going to be on a damn good contract in the future. Yes, he has struggled for the first month that he has played, but remember, it's only been a month and a half since he started playing in the NHL again. Nylander's contract is very good and will be considered in the same conversation as Pastas deal is today. So stop trying to trade him for a bunch of scrubs. The Leafs have some very good up and coming prospects in Liljegren and Sandin (who probably won't be traded either). Chill out for a bit. Give him some time. And just breath. The worst case scenario for the Leafs is that they lose Gardiner, which is okay. Dermott is going to be good and Rosen looks very promising as well. We have a bright future and this year isn't the only year they can win. The Leafs will be competitors for years to come. Trust me.

CWGS

1.) 25 Jan 2019 05:08:51
And all it took was a win over the worse team in the league ATM. nah just kidding lol most of what you said is true.


2.) 25 Jan 2019 07:09:23
I don’t think anyone said Nylander is not a good hockey player. We all know the leafs need defense. With the leafs depth at forward and the cap situation coming, Nylander would be the guy I’d trade for a top defenseman. Also, nobody was trading him for scrubs (Parayko, Trouba, Pietrangalo) . In case you haven’t been following along, leaf fans get accused of the exact opposite. I personally would take Kapanen over Nylander as he’ll demand much less money and works his ass off. Yes the leafs will lose Gardiner. Yes the leafs will be competitors for years to come, we trust you.


 

 

18 Oct 2017 23:44:25
I doubt this would happen buts it's an idea I had.

Leafs: JVR, Bozak, pick, and/ or prospect

Avalanche: One of Duchene, Barrie, or Johnson.

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25 Jun 2019 20:05:22
What should the leafs add to make it more fair? Would a first do it? Or would it have to be someone like Kapanen/Johnnson?

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17 Jun 2019 05:24:57
That's why I said after July 1st. This would happen only if Panarin signs somewhere else. It's unlikely but I think it's got potential. Especially given the fact that Florida could use him as a "big name" (Even though he isn't that big anymore) to please fans.

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19 Apr 2019 19:58:32
@TyBa4

1. He'd want to go back to Toronto to win 2. He wouldn't have a choice cause I would assume Toronto is not one of the 8 teams on his no-trade list. Kadri and Brown are basically the equivalent of Kessel's salary, and Kessel is a top RW in the league which Toronto would love to have. He's on the third line because Matthews is a scorer and putting two snipers on one line wouldn't work, Nylander is more of a playmaker and would probably work well with Kessel.

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25 Jan 2019 02:09:08
The Leafs are unfortunately going to trade Brown. But there is no way in hell Toronto would bring Talbot back. Sparks is good, fans just don't like him because he replaced McElhinney. If you want Brown picks or a Defenceman are coming back. With that being said, I think if it was Brown and Zaitsev for Talbot and a decent pick it might work (say a 2nd or a couple of thirds).

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10 Jan 2019 17:18:33
I probably should have added that I'm not sure if he would be signed or not for this deal. If he isn't signed it's probably a bit much.

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