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30 Jun 2022 23:22:13
Vegas: Lehner (5m), buffalo 3rd round (2023)
seattle: Dreiger (3.5m)

Vegas: theodore (5.2m), chayka (elc)
Ottawa: zaitsev (4.5m), mete (rfa), 2nd round (2022)

vegas: Marchessault (5m), ivan morozov, 3rd round (2024)
carolina: Jesper fast (2m)

assuming all the trade clauses are waived, it would clear 5.2 million overall for vegas putting them about 3m under the cap. it costs them assets because they'd be desperate to make the cap space work and other teams would know it.

Ottawa gets a prime aged defenceman to play with chabot as top pairing, adds cap and a good prospect

carolina adds another legit winger threat that i see as an upgrade over fast as well as a draft pick in the future

seattle upgrades their goaltending situation and adds another draft pick in next year's draft.

What would you change? who adds?

PKane88

1.) 01 Jul 2022 03:42:38
Those Marchessault and Theodore trades are laughable, possibly the worst mock trades I’ve ever seen in my life.


2.) 01 Jul 2022 06:31:04
They're pretty bad but still far from the worst I've seen around here.


 

 

23 May 2022 00:17:27
Vegas: Smith (5M), 1st (2023), chayka
Ottawa: Zaitsev (4.5m), 2nd
Arizona: Chychrun (4.6M)

to arizona: Zaitsev, 1st (2023), 2nd
to Ottawa: Smith, chayka
To vegas: Chychrun

Vegas: Dadanov (5m, if he waives), 2nd (2023)
New Jersey: Kuokkanen (1.825)
or
Nyr: reaves (1.75)

Vegas: gets cap space as well as a couple pieces towards playoffs
Ottawa: gets veteran and a prospect for sweetener
Arizona: Takes zaitsev and 2 draft picks for sweetener

New jersey or new york (depending on if dadonov waives) : gets a veteran to help towards playoffs as well as a pick to sweeten

Cap differences:
ottawa: +0.5m
Arizona: -0.1m
vegas: - 3.75m (if new jersey) or -3.65 (if rangers)
if rangers: +3.25m
if devils: +3.175m

vegas would still be over the cap but it would at least be a start to getting below the cap for next season.

Other teams would get pieces towards moving up in standings and/ or picks/ prospects to sweeten.

PKane88

1.) 23 May 2022 02:55:49
Chychrun fetches more than that. Cut Ottawa out make it a good prospect (does Vegas even have a good prospect? ) or another first instead of Chayka and Arizona might accept that.


2.) 23 May 2022 17:56:04
Smith is a UFA.


3.) 26 May 2022 23:49:59
@Renidrag Ah right, that makes the offer even worse.


 

 

11 Mar 2022 21:05:25
Edmonton: Turris, koskinen,1st round
ottawa: forsberg, 2023 3rd round

Ottawa: Murray, thompson, 2023 2nd round
Arizona: galchenyuk, tendeck.

PKane88

1.) 11 Mar 2022 22:53:20
Why would Ottawa do that.


2.) 12 Mar 2022 00:48:24
The 2nd trade*.


3.) 12 Mar 2022 00:58:01
To get a 1st round pick for a goalie that has no business getting a 1st round pick. Whoever said he has sneaky stats is right though, wow .921 save%.


4.) 12 Mar 2022 19:30:58
Ebsolutely: well i was also taking into consideration forsberg's current contract (albeit expiring) and ottawa taking BOTH turris and koskinen's contracts from edmonton to help their cap situation

Hockey dad: gets rid of murray's contract and gets galchenyuk and goalie prospect. adds in the pick and defense prospect for arizona to take the contract.


5.) 12 Mar 2022 23:09:20
Why would Ottawa even answer that call?


6.) 13 Mar 2022 02:09:49
Because edmonton called from an unlisted number so they wouldn't know who was calling.


 

 

08 Jul 2021 16:38:58
Buffalo: Sam Reinhart + 4th or 5th
Ottawa: Logan Brown, Lassi Thompson + 2nd (higher of ottawa and san jose 2021 pick)

PKane88

1.) 08 Jul 2021 17:08:27
Buffalo isn’t adding to Sam Reinhart on that. Brown is a 4C, Thomson could be a good Top 6 D, and the 2nd pick won’t cut it.


2.) 08 Jul 2021 17:10:07
I want Calgary to go for Lassi Thomson. He’s good friends with Valimaki and is also a RHD. They could easily play together on the 3rd pairing Valimaki - Thomson.


3.) 08 Jul 2021 17:26:16
Buffalo will get plenty of far better offers than that for Reinhart.


4.) 08 Jul 2021 19:33:06
@NotaCasual and MoxNix practice what you preach.
To Calgary : Sam Reinhart
To Buffalo : Juuso Valimaki, Jakob Pelletier and 45th Overall Selection in 2021
That was your offer.
Thomson >> Pelletier
Ottawa’s 2nd >> Calgary’s 2nd
And Valimaki and Brown are honestly pretty comparable in terms of disappointment with Valimaki being the better of the two so far.
I don’t think either offer is enough for Reinhart, but to say one is while the other isn’t is laughable.


5.) 09 Jul 2021 06:39:37
@Websjac

Actually I proposed Conner Zary and Calgary's 2021 first round pick (#12) for Reinhart. As for @Casual's post for some reason I was thinking that was Calgary's 12th overall too rather than 45th.

Valimaki has been disappointing. He hasn't been anywhere near as good as the hype train said he would be. If he was no Flames fan would want to trade him.

Thomson vs Pelletier which is worth more is a moot point. It's comparing apples to oranges. Different players in different leagues. A smallish forward who scores a lot in the QMJHL vs a smallish defenseman who doesn't score much in the AHL.


6.) 09 Jul 2021 13:46:01
Bruh
Valimaki > Thomson
Pelletier >> Brown
What are you even saying.


7.) 09 Jul 2021 13:47:10
Valimaki is a roster player unlike Brown, plays a more important position and is a year younger. Brown can’t even crack a weak senators lineup.


8.) 09 Jul 2021 13:48:47
I don’t think anyone here would say Brown is close to Valimaki like wtf that’s just straight bias.


9.) 13 Jul 2021 14:40:34
Notacasual brown can crack an nhl roster no problem. The only reason he hasn't be given the chance with Ottawa yet is because he is so injury proned. It's been stated on many occasions and on many online sources. Just Google it if you disagree


 

 

17 Feb 2021 00:02:28
Edmonton: Jesse Puljujarvi, 5th
Ottawa: 2nd round pick, coburn, logan brown.

PKane88

1.) 17 Feb 2021 00:31:05
Edmonton has enough LHD’s. They need Puljujarvi more than a C. They lack quality Wingers


 

 

 

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06 Jan 2021 19:06:44
I always thought it would be awesome for ottawa to go for an aggressive move and send out an offer sheet. I was thinking Matthew Barzal. New York Islanders are kinda cap strapped so they'd have a hard time matching. I was thinking something like 7 year 7.5 million per would likely get it done, maybe a 7x7 could be possible too. It would cost ottawa a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick.

Why would you do that? It would solidify ottawa's 1st line center position with barzal and speed up the rebuild a bit. it may hurt giving away those draft picks, but ottawa has 2 second round picks this year and all our picks next year. worst case we could recoup assets by trade deadline with some expendable players. Barzal is also young enough to be in his prime with the rest of our young players to be able to compete for the cup within the next few years (like Melnyk has stated is the goal) .

according to capfriendly, ottawa currently has projected cap space of 10.9 million dollars (so say 3.4 million if Barzal signed at 7.5). players like anisimov, gudbranson, stepan, reilly, and coburn coming off the books at the end of this season can potentially give ottawa around 17.7 million dollars cap space for next off season, which would give plenty of space to resign Chucky, Batherson, and Logan Brown who are rfas and potentially resign a combination of those UFA that I mentioned.

it is also an option to sell some of those ufas at the trade deadline to recoup picks.

PKane88

1.) 06 Jan 2021 21:20:07
barzal sees himself an 8 plus million dollar player, i think ilses would take 7 x 7.5 and match easily.


2.) 07 Jan 2021 00:14:32
Barzel is worth over 10 million on a 7 year contract. New York would match that in a heartbeat. They can spend 10% over the cap.


3.) 10 Jan 2021 15:53:58
Barzal could be one of the top offensive forwards in the game if he was to play for a offensive team, unfortunately for him trotz and his system don’t compliment barzal style, but he still puts up decent numbers. I’m more than likely going to see a lot of hate for this but if barzal was on let say Edmonton I think he’d put up similar if not better numbers than draisaitl.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 21:42:02
ottawa: Stone
Winnipeg: Petan, Stanley, 1st

Ottawa: Duchene
Nashville: Fabbro, 2nd

Ottawa: Dzingle
NJD: 2nd.

PKane88

1.) 09 Feb 2019 22:17:18
P Kane. wouldn't Ottawa want at least a 1st for Duchene? .


2.) 10 Feb 2019 02:55:58
The Jets wouldn’t part with Stanley for a rental.


3.) 10 Feb 2019 05:21:07
Don’t think the 1st trade is enough for stone, late 1st a big d man that may not be more than a 5/ 6 and small forward who can’t crack the line up for stone isn’t enough. even as a rental. I like the duchene trade tho for both teams. Nashville goes all in getting more secondary scoring for the playoffs and I think fabbro is going to be a awesome d man, good size good skater moves puck well, good shot? I’d take that if I was Ottawa.


4.) 10 Feb 2019 15:31:17
3rd pick> Stanley.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 21:37:12
chicago: keith (5.5mx5) +2020 2nd round
boston: Grzelcyk (1.4mx2) + Vaakanainen (ELC)

Boston gets a top defenseman for playoff run. chicago sheds some salary and gets a couple young pieces for retool/ rebuild. Keith goes to a playoff contender to help. 2nd makes up for the age and salary?

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06 Nov 2017 00:56:28
confirmed trade!

Ottawa gets: Matt Duchene
Nashville gets: Kyle Turris
Colorado gets: prospects Samuel Girard, Vladislav Kamenev and a second-round pick from the Predators, and forward Shane Bowers, goaltender Andrew Hammond and a first- and third-round pick from the Senators.

thoughts on this deal?

PKane88

1.) 06 Nov 2017 04:27:56
Joe sakic is now the front runner for executive of the year IMO.


 

 

23 Sep 2017 23:21:51
chicago: hossa + 3rd
vegas: 4th or 5th.

PKane88

1.) 24 Sep 2017 20:19:37
I'd take much more for Vegas to take on that contract.
TB needed to pay a 2nd, 4th and Gusev to make Vegas take 1 year of Garrison at 4.5m or so. And Garrison can at least play and is a decent D for them.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2022 23:38:29
why would leafs want a 36 year old goalie for 1 year? just give a year for goalie to develop in the minors? or seeing this as a make/ break season?

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25 Jun 2022 17:58:50
you'd be lucky to get debrincat alone for that package. TERRIBLE.

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01 Apr 2022 23:43:44
Maybe for toews, add in sandin and a 2nd and chicago can retain 50% of toews. something like that could go. i'd think debrincat would be untouchable for chicago.

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12 Mar 2022 19:30:58
Ebsolutely: well i was also taking into consideration forsberg's current contract (albeit expiring) and ottawa taking BOTH turris and koskinen's contracts from edmonton to help their cap situation

Hockey dad: gets rid of murray's contract and gets galchenyuk and goalie prospect. adds in the pick and defense prospect for arizona to take the contract.

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09 Mar 2022 12:25:18
i'd sooner try to resign forsberg at that cost. i get helping out oilers free up deadline cash for getting koskinen or turris but only upgrading a round to do so when forsberg has been so good for ottawa? i don't see it at all.

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