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13 Oct 2018 16:27:54
Leafs: Nylander, 2019 1st

Canes: Slavin.

The hurricanes have quite a bit of cap space, so could pretty easily sign nylander. They are also stacked on D, and could use another offensive weapon. The leafs biggest need is on D, and Slavin is very underrated, on a team friendly contract. The only negative is that he's left shot, not right. The first is because D are worth more than wingers in today's NHL, and Nylander will likely get more than Slavin makes. Maybe the first is a bit steep, but the general idea is there.

Alternatively, the leafs could target pesce instead, but that would result in the pick being lower, cause he's not quite as good as pesce.

Thoughts?

PittsburghFinest

1.) 13 Oct 2018 16:54:34
There’s a lot to like about Slavin, but the thing I like most about him is his contract. The fact he is LHD doesn’t mean anything in my books. If Carolina makes this trade, Leafs should go for it.


 

 

30 Aug 2018 01:06:47
Montreal:
Patch

New Jersey:
Zacha, 2019 2nd

PittsburghFinest

1.) 30 Aug 2018 16:27:44
Really don’t see why NJ makes this trade.


2.) 30 Aug 2018 21:40:53
The only position that NJ couldn’t possibly upgrade is LW (Taylor Hall) and that’s what you suggest they spend assets on?


3.) 31 Aug 2018 02:44:20
Hockey is more than a 1 line game. There depth at LW drops off quite a bit after hall.


4.) 31 Aug 2018 02:56:43
Like honestly that is such a dumb thing to say. The Penguins have Crosby so they shouldn't spend money on malkin. The lightning have Herman so they shouldn't trade for karlsson. The leafs had Matthews so they shouldn't have signed Tavares. need I go on. This is basically what you are saying.


5.) 31 Aug 2018 15:32:12
What he’s trying to say @Pittsburghs finnest is that it isn’t smart to spend assets on a strong point in your roster when you have multiple glaring needs. Useally teams upgrade strong points internally unless if freak situations like Tavares and RHD is probably Tampa’s biggest position of need tbh. If Malkin and Karlsson hit the trade market a team like Edmonton isn’t going to give up a lot of their assets for Malkin when they already have Drais and RNH and they desperately need defense.


6.) 31 Aug 2018 15:41:05
Jerseys other best two young players after Hiescher is Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both left shot LW. They are far from a perfect team, but LW is the least of their concern. It’s not that dumb of a thing to say. Centre, Defense and Goalie are a little different than wingers lol Patches wanted 8 years $8 mill apparently, even if that’s not true and wants $7 mill, why have him behind hall?! Hall is going to be the go to guy on LW in all situations. If you have Centre depth, they can go to a wing for PP or goalie out late in game situations. Patches is a LW, nothing else.


7.) 31 Aug 2018 15:44:45
And from your examples.

Pens drafted Crosby and Malkin. Didn’t trade assets in a build for them

Leafs drafted Matthews and signed JT as a UFA, did t trade assets during a build for them

Hedman is a LD, Karlsson is a RD. That makes a lethal top pair, not in each other’s way. That makes my point exactly, why not get an elite RW to play with hall and Hiescher?


8.) 31 Aug 2018 23:24:10
Hall outscored the second highest scoring player on the team by 41 pts. That player is a 19 year old C who has also played left wing. The other two surprising youngsters were Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both Left shot LWs! Lol Spend assets to give the team some diverse players and give Hall someone to play with. Not Create an expensive block for 2 cheap young players making good strides.


 

 

10 Jul 2018 21:42:53
Word is Montreal isn't going to extend pacciorety. They are going to trade Him ASAP

Montreal: Pacciorety
Penguins: Carl Hagelin, Zach Aston Reese, 2019 2nd, 2019 4th, Conditional 2021 2nd (if Pacciorety resigns)

Or
Montreal: Pacciorety, conditional 2019 4th ( if pacciorety doesn't resign, pick becomes 3rd)
Wild: Erickson Ek, 2019 1st

Pacciorety value is at a low. Coming off a terrible season(for him), 1year left, and teams know that Montreal isn't going to resign him, so they have to trade him

PittsburghFinest

1.) 10 Jul 2018 22:06:50
Montreal would pass on both of those. But it’s MB so you never know.


2.) 10 Jul 2018 23:56:03
It’s terrible asset management. They make it known they don’t want him. That loses leverage anyway, but then to hold a press conference preaching attitude and character over skill, then next time news comes out of MBs office it’s saying patches isn’t welcome back. So not only did they lose leverage, but now they raise red flags about pacciorettys character (that may or may not be true) to some teams that otherwise might have been interested. Some teams will not inquire about him, or offer far less if they think he could be a problem.

Like Sens holding onto Hoffman for a better offer at the deadline, knowing all this dressing room crap was going on, and then sold him at pennies on the dollar when it hit the news. But this isn’t media releasing a bad story, this is MB devaluing his own captain lol.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 01:42:05
Think the Minnesota one isn't bad, get a 1st and a decent player, think that's really all they can expect at this point. Be better if it was expected to be a higher pick. Maybe a little more especially if there's a contract agreement.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 02:10:09
No Jim it's mostly media. You should know about that.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 02:31:40
With regards to Hoffman if the Sens did know about this they would have had to disclose this info to the other teams they were trying to trade him to. and if for some reason they could lie that they didn't know and get away with it it would still be frowned upon by all the other gms the same way an offer sheet is when it did come out.


6.) 11 Jul 2018 02:33:17
There has been 500 pacioretty rumors this summer by people claiming to have a source but none have actually happened. People must remember the media in montreal is bad when things are going well look out when they are not.


7.) 11 Jul 2018 09:22:47
Not enough from Pittsburgh and too much from Minnesota IMO.


8.) 11 Jul 2018 12:30:12
too much from pittsburgh
and i'd say yes from minnesota provided the 1st is lottery protected (close 2019 or 2020)


9.) 11 Jul 2018 13:43:35
The Pitt trade is atrocious for Montreal.
The minny trade I can’t see them making that at all.


10.) 11 Jul 2018 13:45:08
If that's what i'm getting for patches in keeping him ans hoppin to extended or get more at dealine. But not worth lettint him for hopes. Need something now if in letting e0 goals walk out this season.


11.) 11 Jul 2018 15:24:17
@Habby, I don’t think there’s any rule about disclosing wife drama like a physical injury lol but even if they were to disclose it in private trade talks, it would have been a lot better for Dorian to talk to chirelli or whoever and say “the dressing room is split, 1 of 2 guys has to go, hoffman is one of them, what’s your offer? ” And move him then.

Because instead, they played hardball, it hits the fan, now a media circus is going to follow him, as where if he was traded 1500 miles away before it went public, karlssons wife maybe wouldn’t have had to follow through on the legal stuff. And Sens fan base wouldn’t have more ammo to hurl at Dorian and Melnyk for losing yet another trade.


12.) 11 Jul 2018 15:30:43
And if there’s this many rumblings of a fractured relationship between paccioretty and the habs management, there’s a decent chance that more concrete evidence of that could come out in the coming weeks. And depending what that info is, could affect his trade value. Don’t want to be like the senators, no one wants to be like the senators right now lol.


13.) 11 Jul 2018 16:04:21
Yes jim but I think we can both agree that there is usually a lot more goes on behind the scenes that me or you or any of the insiders know. Sometimes you got to ask yourself who is this source that everyone talks about? Sources close to a team that could actually leak true info would not do so because if they were caught they would be fired. why would someone in that situation leak info to a 2nd rate reporter so he could put it in a newspaper for everyone to see. i'm sure a few things about pacioretty may have some merit but I'm willing to bet 99% don't it's purely speculation based on what people think will happen. With regards to Hoffman if Dorian and crew knew there was a chance karlsons wife was considering pressing charges against Hoffmann (wife) then yes this would have to been brought to the attention of the other team.


14.) 11 Jul 2018 16:39:54
If there is a fractured relationship it's because patch wants more on his new deal then montreal wants to pay. Pretty simple really and that happens a lot it's just this being a more then usual boring summer with not much to talk about it's being blown up in montreal. Notice when everyone though karlsson would be traded last week there was zero talk about pacioretty lol. or when the tavares saga was going on. People looking for news is all it is. The same thing is going on that has been since last December with pacioretty his name is out there and bergevin is listening to offers. If he gets an offer he likes he will trade him. you can paint it in any way you like but we all said the same things about duchene and sakic done pretty good in that deal. As of now if patch doesn't resign he will be a ufa after this year and will be traded as such. So does he have more trade value now or if he was resigned at 8 year 8 mil per? My guess is he has more value now. Does that mean the habs will get huge haul for him. Probably not. But they should be able to get something that will help them moving forward. Picks or prospects is my hope.


15.) 11 Jul 2018 16:44:02
Yeah. I think The Athletic is a pretty good outlet, seem to have some connections and smart people employed. But It’s not criminal charges that she brought against them. It’s a protection order saying she can’t contact her. It’s a civil matter. Cody Ceci’s wife threw a flaming bottle of gasoline on a another woman (accidentally, but what else can possibly happen in Ottawa this summer?!?! ) and the woman was fighting for her life and she has had like 15 or 20 surgeries. Almost guaranteed a lawsuit will come from that too but again it will be a civil matter, no criminal charges and I doubt it has to be disclosed.

Regardless, we will see. Paccioretty has said he wants to stay and a as willing to sign 8 years (Montreal Gazette) but when he’s traded, more of the story will come out, and I’m willing to bet that a real story of a very fractured relationship will emerge.


16.) 11 Jul 2018 19:25:04
It could happen jim I'm not going to rule that out. I just think at this time it's just more of a contract thing then anything else. could Possibly be friction between patch and other players on team though. This summer seems more rampant with loose rumors and texts from sources which have been proven wrong then other years to me. i think it comes from this years uneventful draft and mediocre free agent class making very few headlines. To me now unless I hear straight from bob mckenzie or elliote friedman I don't even listen to it.


17.) 11 Jul 2018 19:41:13
But on the note of things being disclosed everything is suppose to be disclosed that you are aware of concerning the player your trading. legal matters drinking or partying habits, locker room feuds injuries etc. all could be assumed to affect the players performance as could the legal matter. Off ice issues can be a wide range of things if the other gm asks about a players situation. when trade negotiations are taking place how often do you think the other gm asks why are you trading him? How's that knee injury? Is there any truth about these rumors? A Gm don't just say we'll he's a good player let's see if we can get him, without doing their homework first. I remember when the habs traded mike riberio for janne ninnima there was hardly any talk of riberios drinking problem at the time but gainey had to disclose that info to other Gms and that's the only offer he got. i know it's not the same as the Hoffman case but gainey could have kept quiet about it and got another deal elsewhere and just waited for the other team to find out. But I'm pretty sure the other team then could have filed a grievance to the league and got compensated.


 

 

09 Jul 2018 14:54:40
Word is Panarin doesn't want to stay in Columbus.

Columbus: Panarin

Wild: Jason Zucker (signed 5M/4Years), Joel Erickson Ek, 2019 2nd

PittsburghFinest

1.) 09 Jul 2018 15:24:15
only if Minny can extend panarin which I don’t think they can because sounds like he wants to go to a bigger market because his gf is a model.


2.) 09 Jul 2018 17:09:58
It's because he doesn't want to live in Ohio. Not because he doesn't like the team.
Think he would like Minnesota if he doesn't like Ohio. I'm going to guess no.
He wants New York or Florida type place to live.


3.) 09 Jul 2018 17:29:19
These rumours were shut down, his gf did not model the last 3 years, it said.


4.) 09 Jul 2018 19:09:23
Apparently she wants to get back into modeling and his agent was covering it up for some reason.


 

 

04 Jul 2018 04:23:56
Dallas considered front runners for Karlsson(Chris Stevenson, the athletic). So

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan(15% retention), Conditional 2019 2nd

Dallas: Jason Spezza, Miro Heiskanen, conditional 2019 1st.

Dallas gets a much needed lift to their D, and an (overpaid) scoring winger who IMO would slot in very nicely with Seguin if Jim Montgomery decides to even out the lines. The condition on the 1st is if Karlsson Resigns. Though they lose some centre depth via spezza, they still would have enough offensive firepower to be competitive.

Ottawa brings in a former star, who would likely sell a decent number of jersey's, plus gets rid of (most of) bobby ryans contract, in addition to a great d prospect and possibly a first. The condition on the 2nd is Karlsson doesn't sign.

In a years time spezzas contract comes off the books if Dorion or Melnyk wants to cut spending, or they could resign him

PittsburghFinest

1.) 04 Jul 2018 04:32:37
Why would ottawa want Spezza? that's a terrible return


2.) 04 Jul 2018 04:53:52
There could be a number of reasons why Ottawa would take spezza.

1. Jersey sales, as he's an old name, and could bring a nostalgia factor to some fans
2. They don't have a 1st in case you didn't know, spezza is decent, so he could help with the team, Duchene/ Spezza is not the worst 1-2 punch up the middle
3. Dallas adding spezza gives them some cap flexibility for this season, even though they are taking on bobby ryan, so maybe they wanted to include him
4. They could possibly trade Spezza with salary retention and get a good return.

The reason that the return is underwhelming is cause Dallas is taking Ryan's horrendous contract.


3.) 04 Jul 2018 04:59:24
I like it @ Pittsburgh Finest take out ryan or the 1st tho. It’s going to be an extremely underwhelming return for the sens there fans will be dissapointed.


4.) 04 Jul 2018 12:52:50
Dallas adds more.


5.) 04 Jul 2018 13:07:32
The one thing I saw on the score was a 1st, 2nd Brett Ritchie, Julius Honka, and Remi Elie. Sold. Sign the papers. 8 x 11.5/ yr contract. Lehgo.


6.) 04 Jul 2018 20:59:29
No thanks, ottawa doesn't want that bum spezza. i'd rather have ryan tbh.


 

 

 

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21 Aug 2018 22:18:57
Would anybody be interested in doing a fantasy keeper league or doing a second fantasy league if your not in the first one? Comment your reply.

PittsburghFinest

1.) 22 Aug 2018 19:21:27
Don't get me wrong, i enjoy chatting hockey on here. But to be part of a Fantasy league would be terrible. When was the last time anyone actually agreed on a trade on this website, lol. Specifically a keeper league.


2.) 22 Aug 2018 20:47:48
Well there is a 14 (? ) team league already associated with the site, so I wanted to see if anyone else would be interested in either of the above.


3.) 23 Aug 2018 06:26:06
10 team league and it’s going great.


4.) 23 Aug 2018 23:36:34
shockingly we do get trades done in the fantasy, with a lot of arguing and countering. easy with a chat room.


5.) 24 Aug 2018 20:21:45
Yah I probably made 25 trades. It’s a 5 player keeper league and I started off with

Schifele
Liane
Pavelski
Kessel
Guzenzel
Subban
Giroux
Radulov
Gibson
M. Jones
Gibson
JVR
R. Suter
McDonagh
Marleau
Lundqvist
Ellis
E. Staal
Toffoli
Muzzin
Koivu

In order of draft position and ended up with
Keepers- Liane, Boeser, Taresanko, Eichel And Schifele ( traded him then traded back for him )
+
Toffoli
Eberle
Towes
Nash
Price
Parise
Zetterberg
Smith
Eklblad
Kieth
Phaneuf
Spurgeon
Saad
Steen
McDonagh
Howard
Crawford
Lundqvist.


 

 

13 Aug 2018 04:35:18
So after this season season, Matt duchene is a free agent (ufa). He currently has a cap hit of 6 million, and is 27. Do you think the sens try to trade him (probably for way less than what they paid for him) or do you think they would resign him? They definitely seem like a rebuilding team right now, but they gave up so much for duchene I feel like there might be a lot of pressure on Pierre Dorian to keep him. What to do you think is going to happen, and what do you think should happen? Why?

PittsburghFinest

1.) 13 Aug 2018 05:01:55
I think he’s the most likely player to resign with the Sens.


2.) 15 Aug 2018 11:46:55
Out of the 3 UFAs next summer (Duchene, Stone, Karlsson) I think he’s the only one that might be there to start 19/ 20 season. That being said, I think he’s going to want a big contract, maybe more than he’s worth, to stay there.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 03:48:39
Sabres traded cliff pu, 2nd 2019, 3rd 2020, 6th for skinner. Seems like an underwhelming return. Not too sure about pu, but it seems to me sabres easily won this trade

PittsburghFinest

1.) 03 Aug 2018 04:36:40
Sabres win for sure if skinner resigns. pu is considered a decent prospect but IMO he may or may not even make the nhl I don't see him being someone the sabres will ever really regret trading.


2.) 03 Aug 2018 14:40:27
Even if it's just a one year rental. That's a great price for one full year not even at deadline. If Hanzel got a 1st at deadline Skinner could have gotten that easily.


 

 

28 Jul 2018 02:50:24
Caps resigned Tom Wilson 5.17M/6 years. Overpayment?

PittsburghFinest

1.) 28 Jul 2018 05:25:25
Staal 42 goals $3.5M
Wilson 35 points $5.17M

Huge overpayment for grit and character. Who cares how important he is in the dressing room and team identity. That doesn't cost $5.17M per.


2.) 28 Jul 2018 05:41:27
15pts in 21 playoff games.
He wrote his own pay cheque.


3.) 28 Jul 2018 07:42:43
That Staal comparison is obviously non-sense, since Staal signed that contract coming off of a much worse season than 42 goals. But yeah, overpayment for Wilson.


4.) 28 Jul 2018 12:05:09
stall also a decade older, and was coming of his huge payday 8+ million contract and had a few bad seasons. everyone agreed at the time that 3.5 was a steal.


5.) 28 Jul 2018 12:37:00
Playoff performance gets him money. Bryan Bickell all over again.


6.) 28 Jul 2018 15:06:31
Top shelf that was what I was thinking also.


7.) 28 Jul 2018 15:18:25
Hawks stayed competitive for so long because they had no problem making the tough decisions and letting good players go after winning (Ladd, Buff, niemi etc) . The one time they caved to pressure and pay a fan favourite too much money was Bickell and it cost them the chance to sign other good players for a year or two and then cost them teuvo. Huge Wilson fan, but this is crazy money. We are hoping to get Nylander for 6.5 haha.


8.) 28 Jul 2018 22:17:54
He's a rairity for sure probably the only enforcer in today's NHL that can actually play a 1st line role. he's a better younger faster milan lucic so if you look at it that way it's a good deal. I personally wouldn't have offered him that much but I don't think it's as bad as it seems at this moment. if his play drops off then it's hortible but he's still only 24 I think so this should be his prime years.


9.) 28 Jul 2018 22:21:46
You may still get nylander for the same price as before jim. Wilson got a contract boost for his playoff performance nylander won't have that same advantage.


10.) 28 Jul 2018 22:35:01
Nylander probably won't take less than ehlers. Probably gets a little more so 6.5 is close.


11.) 28 Jul 2018 23:34:04
Tkachuk’s are both much better then Wilson IMO.


12.) 29 Jul 2018 14:14:26
Yes vbb matthew tkachuck is better not quite the same level as a enforcer but much better overall.


13.) 29 Jul 2018 15:53:29
Enforcers are replacable. Being put on the first line and being able to play a first line role are 2 different things. Playing pretty much all his minutes with at least 1 of Ovie Backstrom and Kuznetsov he scored a career high 35 points. he's not worth 5+ mill.


14.) 30 Jul 2018 13:55:25
We'll jbs as of right now he played 1st line on the stanley cup champions. Maybe the capitals overachieved this year and will never come close to matching last years success but the fact remains however lucky they got they still won and I'm sure management feels Wilson was a big part of that.


15.) 30 Jul 2018 16:26:01
There always a great regular season team there was zero luck the compete level was there. Don’t think I’ve see. A player work as hard as Ovie did.


16.) 30 Jul 2018 16:40:15
He’s not a typical top line player obviously and definitely reaped benifits of playing with 2 world class players but lots of other players have been put as 3rd wheels on great lines and not had success. So he deserves credit for making his game work with ovie and Kuz for sure. Not taking anything away from Wilson, I just think that’s a ton of money. If he does what he did this year, every year, then he could be worth it. But it’s hard to have that kid of consistency playing above your skill level. Closest guy I can think of is Patric hornquist in Pittsburgh. More skill than Wilson and putting up 50pts rather than 35, but still a role player playing with world class players, not nearly as tough or physical as Wilson and he just got a deal of $5.3 mill for age 31-36. So when you consider Wilson’s is 24-29 years old for that contract it might not be as bad.


 

 

18 Jul 2018 21:51:01
If you were Ottawa would you rather have sergachev or point as the main piece coming back in the karlsson trade? Why?

PittsburghFinest

1.) 18 Jul 2018 23:08:24
If I were Yzerman I’d say you’re not getting either you can give me him for Foote+ or let him walk and sign with us as a UFA.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:15
I would think Sergachev but could see advantages to both. I just think they have White, Tkachuk, chlapik, brown up front and really only Chabot as a good D prospect. I’d say losing Karlsson would open up a need for Sergachev more. However if it’s sergachev/ raddysh or point/ Foote then it makes it close either way.


3.) 19 Jul 2018 00:35:58
I wouldn't be surprised if Yzerman was able to make a trade and not give up either one of them.
Tough choice tho in my opinion. I really don't know which of the two I would want from an Ottawa stand point. I'm stumped on that one.


4.) 19 Jul 2018 03:06:23
Tough call, sens have brown and white who at this point may still be good centres so sergachev would be good as the center piece of a trade, as their only really promising d prospect is chabot, but on the flip side if sens aren’t comfortable with the colour tandem as their future centerman then point would be center peoce. tough call. If I were sens I’d want both of them, it’s not everyday a team gets a chance to acquire a franchise d man on his prime when your team is in win now mode.


5.) 19 Jul 2018 04:46:28
I feel like its obviously Point. And i also feel like he isn't really on the table. he's young, going into last year of ELC and has shown he can take over games at both ends of the ice. he's a 22 year old 30 goal scorer and all star who was often played in a shut down role. Sergachev is a good young piece but Point is a young established top 6C you can play against another teams top line.


6.) 19 Jul 2018 10:04:12
0% chance they are getting point and I feel if SY was willing to include Sergachev, the trade would be done by now. So. prolly neither.


7.) 19 Jul 2018 13:07:16
Triplets I disagree. I think Sergachev is on the table. It was reported they had a deal in place before Melnyk nixed it because it didn't include Ryan and Sergachev was the main piece bacl (and what separated Tampa from DAL/ VGK)


8.) 19 Jul 2018 14:26:52
Point is a really good young player and I would t want to trade him if I was a lightning fan. But the whole “all-star” thing is a stretch. He was a late addition for an injury replacement which they try to give to players on the host team first. He didn’t crack top 40 in scoring among forwards, so when 24 forwards are selected to go, I think it’s obvious there were more deserving. Not trying to devalue the guy but his all star appearance was not deserved like most players were.


9.) 19 Jul 2018 17:07:51
Well @ Unbiased Jim, it was only Points sophomore year and his value does not is not only reflected on the score sheet.
He was voted 8th for the Selke trophy at just 22 years old. Guess that says a lot about his defensive abilities, will definitely earn a few Selke nominations if not trophies in the future, imo.

@jbs: Well, none of the big trustworthy insiders actually ever reported anything like that, or did they? (or anything of substance at all, really) . It's an assumption as much as it was an assumption that the trade was "as good as done". It might be true and he might give up Sergachev, but I really feel like the longer it takes the worse it'll be for the Sens.


10.) 19 Jul 2018 18:05:20
@triplets. I agree. He’s a great young player, and like I said I wouldn’t want him included in a deal if I were you. I was just saying his all star appearance wasn’t earned so I don’t see that as a point to bring up discussing his trade value. He’s the type of guy you win with tho and has enough legitimate great attributes to bring up that a pity invite to the all star game doesn’t need to be one of them.

And when I said he didn’t crack top 40 in scoring, I don’t mean only scoring matters in the NHL But for all star selection, faceoff percentage and ability to shadow a star isn’t really taken into consideration. That’s the point I was making that I didn’t think was hard to recognize. Brian Boyle was at that game too for hometown/ sentimental reasons and he’s good defensively but I’m not going to call him an all star from now on.


11.) 19 Jul 2018 19:33:00
When it comes to All Star its by division. At that point in time he was 5th amongst forwards in division and goals and 9th in points while putting up Selke vote getting D. Being home may have given him an edge on all star replacement but wasnt the sole reason. I think to say a player at a 0.9 PPG pace with his D and at that pointed limited PP time was undeserving is underselling him a bit. Borderline sure. But i wouldn't say unearned.


12.) 20 Jul 2018 15:38:52
Yeah, Marner finished ahead of Point in scoring but clearly did most of his damage in the second half so obviously wouldn’t be considered. But trochek finished with 75 pts, had more points in a cpl less games when the teams were named, when the replacement was made and when the game was played. Point was picked ahead of him solely because he plays for Tampa and not the Panthers. Not difficult to see that. Could have had a second, more deserving panther there instead of a 5th lightning. Or another deserving Bruin like PPG Pasternak or Bergeron?!


13.) 22 Jul 2018 08:26:20
Totally agree with jbs here. While Point may have been a borderline selection, it's not right to act like he did not deserve it at all and name him in the same sentence as Brian Boyle or say it was a "pity invite"


14.) 22 Jul 2018 16:35:05
That’s fine. He’s a good player and I’d like him on my team. But if I can name 3 players easily Trochek, Bergeron, Pastrnak as forwards in the division with better stats at the time and only thing Point had over them was he plays for Tampa, I call that undeserved. If I go for a promotion and I get the job over 3 more qualified people because my dads the boss, I can still be happy to have the job, but people can also say it was undeserved, right? lol.


15.) 23 Jul 2018 07:44:11
Well #1 that "dad" thing is nonsense since it wasnt Cooper/ Yzerman picking the replacement but the NHL.
And #2 Point had 43 points when he was named all star replacement for Hedman. So it was not like they added another Lightning player, Point just replaced a TBL player that would have been there if not injured.
Pastrnak had 45 points, Trocheck 43 and Bergeron 40, so they all were very close. Point also got just 6 of his points on the PP, while the other 3 had 13 or 14 of their points on the PP. Oh and Point also lead the NHL in GWG back then. So again, I def wouldn't call it underserved, let alone argue he was picked bc he plays for TB.


 

 

 

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10 Sep 2018 16:05:46
Apparently the trade is contingent on patch signing "long term " in Vegas.

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31 Aug 2018 02:56:43
Like honestly that is such a dumb thing to say. The Penguins have Crosby so they shouldn't spend money on malkin. The lightning have Herman so they shouldn't trade for karlsson. The leafs had Matthews so they shouldn't have signed Tavares. need I go on. This is basically what you are saying.

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31 Aug 2018 02:44:20
Hockey is more than a 1 line game. There depth at LW drops off quite a bit after hall.

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26 Aug 2018 17:06:47
Second Ottawa doesn't have their 2019 pick.

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26 Aug 2018 14:47:17
Oh boy, I don't even know where to start.

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