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03 Oct 2020 19:58:11
Seeing a lot of dumb trades here lately regarding Ottawa getting fleeced. Sorry guys but Ottawa does NOT have to get fleeced in every trade rumor, please post more realistic trades benefit Ottawa in some way rather that the ones where they lose their best assets for nothing but trash. Here is an example.

Ott : 5th overall, 33rd overall, Cbj 2nd 2021 Chlapic, Davidson

Njd : 7th overall, 18th overall, 20th overall


Then.

Ott : 20th overall, 28th overall, Ott 2021 3rd

Min : 9th overall

Then.

Ott : 63 overall, 70 overall

Mon : 47 overall

Then.

Ott : 18th overall, 47th overall, 58th overall, 60th overall, Thyconic,

Ana : 6th overall

That leaves Ottawa with 3rd 6th, 7th, and 9th overall. Ottawa already has quantity, it's time to add quality, and with 4 top 10 picks they can do just that.

3rd - Byfield / Stutzle

6th and 7th - what ever 2 of Drysdale, Rossy Raymond, or Sanderson are available

9th - Lundell / Askarov.

The Real Balboski

1.) 03 Oct 2020 20:14:40
Holy god fhis is all so lopsided for the senators.


2.) 03 Oct 2020 22:53:57
Is this a leFs fan calling the ott fan out kettle meet pot lol.


3.) 04 Oct 2020 03:30:16
Devils would fire their gm right away trade 3 first to move up 2 spots.


4.) 04 Oct 2020 05:10:19
I don't think many of these teams would go for it, except Ottawa.

Anaheim might be interested in that, if they feel the need to build a farm system. But I still don't think they move from 6-18 for a couple seconds.

Njd, mtl, and min are looking for more of an impact player to move picks, but the picks they give up would be more impactful than what they're getting back.


5.) 04 Oct 2020 12:31:46
Pretty sure this is a joke post.


6.) 04 Oct 2020 15:55:38
The only hint its a joke to me, is usually balboski is trading his picks and prospects for veterans to try and ruin the rebuild.


 

 

18 Aug 2020 22:05:29
Not a ranger fan but let me spot all an interesting scenario here and get some feedback on what you think of the moves and whether it's enough to get them to the cup?

NYR : Staal, DeAngelo, Kreider, Andersson, Strome, 2021 1st

BUF : Eichel, Okposo

Buyout or trade Smith and Okposo for next to nothing just to get rid of 10+ million in cap hit.

Then.

Taylor Hall rumors are that he will sign cheap short term for for a cup run sooo.

Hall - 1.5 million 2 years

Pietrangelo - 6 - 7 million 3 years

Roster looks like follows.

Lafreniere Eichel Kakko
Panarin Zibanejad Buchnevich
Hall Chytil Kravtsov
Lemieux Howden Fast

Trouba Pietrangelo
Lindgren Fox
Robertson Raddysh

Current Goalies minus Lundqvist

Last defense pair subject to change with using free agency and money save from Lundqvist retirement.

Thoughts?

The Real Balboski

1.) 19 Aug 2020 03:23:22
What a terrible offer for Eichel. Kriender is barely worth his contract. Staal is a huge cap dump, DeAngelo is probably the most 1 dimensional player in the game he’s a 3rd pairing PP specialtist, Andersson is a solid SHL player he can stay there, Strome sucks as Edmonton fans here know he benifited by playing with Paniran and the 1st will be late. Try 1st overall + for Eichel. I’ll admit Eichel is just as good as mathews and I’d puke if the leafs moved him for that garbage offer.


2.) 19 Aug 2020 06:33:27
Lol Hall cheap for two years means like 7.5 minimum bud lmao.


3.) 19 Aug 2020 08:25:11
Let's say they sign hall for the best contract in the league, why sign him for 3rd line?

Also, why trade your depth for eichel? (I mean, I understand wanting a superstar) zib is a legit first line centre, keep your assets and trade/ groom/ sign a 2c. With zib, panarin, lafrenier, and kakko, should be good on top 6 goal scoring.


4.) 19 Aug 2020 11:31:55
Petro us not signing for 7 mil lmao.


5.) 19 Aug 2020 16:25:42
Hall for 1.5M? His agent would murder him.


 

 

08 Aug 2020 15:05:25
Well that sucks I pressed send early by accident on last one LMFAO so I'll redo it here. Summarizing as due to cap and cap issues these deals are possible if Edmonton or Nashville win lotto.

NSH : 1st overall, Turris

For

OTT : 3rd overall, Isles 2020 1st, Chlapic, Duclair, Davidson

Or

OTT : 5th overall, Batherson, Isles 1st, Chlapic, 2021 2nd rounder lowest, 2020 3rd rounder lowest

As for if Edmonton wins lottery use same trades as Nashville but replace Turris with James Neal.

Yes I made a couple changes to previous post, would have made them in post anyway if I didn't click send early lol.

Anyway not teams see cap relief with any of these deals and still manage a top 5 pick either way plus extra assets while Ottawa lands the 1st overall without having to get stupid and move both top 5 picks for it which is a dumb idea anyway as no team should ever trade 2 top 5 picks for anyone let alone the 1st overall in the same class. Especially in a deep class where the 2nd and 3rd overall picks have very comparable ceilings to the 1st overall and are nearly as good now as well. That's just dumb. These deals are far more reasonable.

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1.) 08 Aug 2020 17:42:46
If I'm nashville, I want lafrenier instead of all that. Bigger chance for immediate scoring help off the wing. He's already cap relief, and would be exactly what they need.


2.) 09 Aug 2020 13:03:23
Why would. either team trade Laf for lower picks and garbage. The 3rd and 5th together have enough value it might convince a team. The Islanders pick and a bunch of crap does not.


3.) 10 Aug 2020 22:27:26
St. louisfan get real dude 3rd + 5th >>> 1st in any reality. One of the 2 plus isles first = 1st especially this year. Might take a sweetener or 2 depending on which one is used but no way in hell 1st is is worth 2 top 5 picks. Even if 1 was McDavid which it's not.


4.) 12 Aug 2020 00:05:54
How do you value your draft picks? What is your preferred methodology?
There are a few different ways. I just wanted to see what way you think is best, or if you have a unique method of your own, being as you are an obvious hockey genius.

There a A LOT of articles that explain how to value draft picks. They all say the 3rd + 5th ~ 1st. Very slightly worth more actually, but not by what you indicate.

For example, if you value the top pick at 100, the value of the 3rd and 5th combined comes out to 105. Not very different at all, and is actually a smaller difference than between the 1st and 2nd.

Either of those picks plus the Isles much later 1st does not even come close. Throwing ng more trash on the pile doesn't make it any more valuable either. It's just a bigger pile of crap.

Do yourself a favor.
Search up "NHL draft pick valuation methods". Educate yourself on draft picks. Then you will realize that I am right and you are very spectacularly wrong. But it's ok to publicly display your ignorance on site here. You are just learning. It's all anonaymous. No one will hold it against you. And we will a respect you more when next time you post something that is true and can back it up with actual results.


5.) 13 Aug 2020 01:13:38
Hockeyluver. In no way shape or form is number 1 worth both 3 and 5 and you damn well know it. Especially in a draft class like this one where 2 and 3 both have potential to be as good or better than number 1 they are that good.

If you had a shot at Stutzle/ Byfield, heiskanen, kotkoniemi, Dach, Galchenyuk, Duchene, Toews, or Gaborik

And

Drysdale/ Rossi, Petterson, Hayden, Turcotte, Rielly, Schenn, Kessel, or Torres

Would you even consider trading both for any 1 of same year picks below?

Lafreniere, Hischier, Dahlin, Hughes, Yakapov, Tavares, Johnson, or Dipietro.

I highly doubt it. The only one I'd even consider is 2018 draft (Dahlin) . And given how good this class is that's even more reason it's nowhere near proper value.

Sure Lafreniere is phenomenal talent but Byfield is almost as good with Malkin potential and is better than Lafreniere defensively and can throw his big phrame around and dominate pace. Stutzle is also almost as good with Draisaitl potential and is a much better skater than Lafreniere is.

At number 3 it's guaranteed you get 1 of those 2 guys. So in what world is it fair to ask a Drysdale or a Rossi on top of that? IT'S NOT!

GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU DON'T GET GOLD IN EXCHANGE FOR SILVER!


 

 

08 Aug 2020 14:42:43
If Nashville or Edmonton win the lottery I could see something like one of these deals happening due to the Salary Cap not changing for a few years and Nashville being a spend to the ceiling team as is, Edmonton already spending 10+ million on 2 guys and Nuge due for a raise as well and both teams in need of cap relief of bad contracts, and Ottawa being in a position as one of very few teams that CAN take on a bad contract.

NSH : 1st overall, Turris

OTT : 3rd overall, lowest 2021 2nd, Chlapic, Davidson, lowest 2020 3rd

Or

NSH : 1st overall, Turris

OTT : 5th overall,

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1.) 08 Aug 2020 15:07:27
This is incomplete. See next post for full details.


 

 

02 Jul 2020 02:30:17
TBA : 1st overall 2020

OTT : 5th overall 2020, NYI 1st 2020, Dal 2nd 2020, Conditional 1st in 2021 (becomes SJS 2nd 2021 and CBJ 2nd 2021 if either Ottawa makes lottery again in 2021 or NYI 1st in 2020 becomes top 15)

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1.) 02 Jul 2020 14:02:05
When the 1st Overall is a Franchise Player like Lafreniere you don't trade it, so whoever is lucky enough to get this year's 1st Overall will not be trading it.


2.) 04 Jul 2020 18:59:24
Pinballisback if you're a team that don't necessarily need him and can get a package like this in a draft as deep as this one you don't think twice and accept it before it's off the table.

The 5th can get you 1 of Drysdale, Rossi, Raymond, or Perfetti.

The Isles pick if top 15 can get you 1 of Askarov, Lundell, Quinn, Sanderson, Jarvis, Zary, Lapierre, Mercer, or Gunler. If isles go deep you still get a shot at some of them plus Barron.

The Dallas 2nd gives you a shot at guys like Chromiak, Foerster, Nybeck, Wallinder, or Villeneuve


Then you also get either the 1st or two 2nds next year on top of that depending on conditions.

I'm sorry but even if Lafreniere were deemed better than McDavid at his age, that's STILL an overpayment and a must say yes deal for any play in team. Only Detroit, Anaheim, or Montreal I can see saying no due to their team situations. Everyone else saying no would be stupid to say the least.


 

 

 

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13 Jun 2020 20:23:31
You are 100% reading it right St. LouisFan.

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13 Jun 2020 20:22:06
Monkeyful Branstrom is going nowhere first off, Ottawa not about to kill its own defence. And for argument sake even of they were willing to add him and still give the Isles pick on top, there is no way they add Batherson too let alone a 1st next year on top (top 10 protection or not)

You are talking Ottawa here, even if they did get Eichel, losing Branstrom would set their defence back years meaning the next couple years would be just as bad. And protection on next year's pick would be dumb because is a weak draft and that gives Buffalo a shot at the sens pick in 2022 which could end up being Shane Wright, Brad Lambert, or Matthew Savoie all 3 of which have the potential to be better than Eichel on their own, no thank you. Protect for next 2 years then you say? Not much better as then in 2023 you have Conner Bedard, Matvie Mishkov, Adam Fantilli, and Braden Yager, all 4 of which could be even better than the 2022 class. Ottawa would sooner accept 2 or 3 more terrible years gaining a shot at these kids.

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13 Jun 2020 20:09:20
Topshelf, I would tend to think it's pretty obvious why I'm willing to move Logan Brown. It's NOT because I don't like him because despite what you believe I actually do. It's just when you look up and down Ottawa roster and system, plus where they will be picking it's pretty obvious what position they are weakest at, and that is defence. So no way am I going to put Branstrom in a deal because that would set the defence back years. Chabot alone is NOT enough. Where as Logan Brown is a Center and still a top prospect as is Batherson, something Ottawa is certainly NOT lacking with the likes of Norris, Tierney, Pinto, White, Brown, Batherson, and Chlapic already in the system and a draft class coming up where they have 2 top 6picks with guys like Byfield, Stutzle, Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell, etc available. And the fact he's a forward as well again Ottawa is loaded there for the future no doubt. So yeah without including defence or being stupid and including the heart and soul of the forwards Tkachuk, what do you propose I add? It's kindve a no brainer as he is still viewed to carry major value.

Vertuis if Buffalo got this offer and refused they'd be laughed out of the league. Eichel calling them Perennial Losers would be the last of their worries lol.

Thunder Turkey 43rd IS "somewhere around" 30th best last time I looked. Within 13spots to be exact. Which is still very solid ranking.

The Real Balboski

1.) 14 Jun 2020 23:26:14
Bruh who are you babbling to?


 

 

25 Feb 2020 16:55:37
Told yall pageau would get a 1st plus.

The Real Balboski

1.) 25 Feb 2020 17:55:48
Wasn’t it known he would get a 1st? Every analyst said that’s what it would cost. He’s had a great year. You didn’t tell us anything. Me anyways. It’s a top 3 protected also.
Stop being a Homer Rambone. Classic Rambone.


2.) 25 Feb 2020 18:46:13
I figured conditional 1st+. Didn’t think he’d get nearly that much. But he also had a contract lined up so of course he’d get more for that. Over pay in my eyes.


3.) 25 Feb 2020 21:19:09
pageau fetched that because of the deal in place. it was obvious he was getting a first regardless of extention. but extention obviously worth more in trade.


4.) 25 Feb 2020 21:25:31
Overpaying is what teams do on deadline day (and on July 1)


5.) 02 Mar 2020 09:14:55
I don’t think it’s bad to give up all of that and sign Pageau to that contract. The contract is good for what he brings I think.


 

 

 

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13 Aug 2020 01:13:38
Hockeyluver. In no way shape or form is number 1 worth both 3 and 5 and you damn well know it. Especially in a draft class like this one where 2 and 3 both have potential to be as good or better than number 1 they are that good.

If you had a shot at Stutzle/ Byfield, heiskanen, kotkoniemi, Dach, Galchenyuk, Duchene, Toews, or Gaborik

And

Drysdale/ Rossi, Petterson, Hayden, Turcotte, Rielly, Schenn, Kessel, or Torres

Would you even consider trading both for any 1 of same year picks below?

Lafreniere, Hischier, Dahlin, Hughes, Yakapov, Tavares, Johnson, or Dipietro.

I highly doubt it. The only one I'd even consider is 2018 draft (Dahlin) . And given how good this class is that's even more reason it's nowhere near proper value.

Sure Lafreniere is phenomenal talent but Byfield is almost as good with Malkin potential and is better than Lafreniere defensively and can throw his big phrame around and dominate pace. Stutzle is also almost as good with Draisaitl potential and is a much better skater than Lafreniere is.

At number 3 it's guaranteed you get 1 of those 2 guys. So in what world is it fair to ask a Drysdale or a Rossi on top of that? IT'S NOT!

GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU DON'T GET GOLD IN EXCHANGE FOR SILVER!

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10 Aug 2020 22:27:26
St. louisfan get real dude 3rd + 5th >>> 1st in any reality. One of the 2 plus isles first = 1st especially this year. Might take a sweetener or 2 depending on which one is used but no way in hell 1st is is worth 2 top 5 picks. Even if 1 was McDavid which it's not.

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08 Aug 2020 15:07:27
This is incomplete. See next post for full details.

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02 Aug 2020 21:50:17
What's with the 3rd and 5th for 1st garbage? No way the 1st is worth both. Byfield and Stutzle are both said to have similar and possibly higher ceiling than Lafreniere. No way Lafreniere is worth one of them plus a Drysdale or Rossi.

3rd, plus Isles 1st, a late 2nd, and maybe something like Balcers Tops, no more than that Sheesh.

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02 Aug 2020 21:41:58
No way says Ottawa.

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