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25 May 2023 17:54:59
I seen a few Marner for Panarin rumors floating around, if Panarin or Zibanejad are available how about one of these instead.
NYR : Panarin
OTT : DeBrincat, Thompson, and Formenton
Or
NYR : Zibanejad
OTT : DeBrincat, and a 2nd
Ottawa can replace DeBrincat with a star around the same level or use him to bring Zibanejad home where he belongs, assuming DeBrincat don't want to sign with Ottawa.
1.) 26 May 2023 00:45:40
Pass on the Panarin trade. I don't mind the second though. Always liked Zibanejad.
2.) 27 May 2023 17:00:21
I don’t think Paniran holds much value with his contract.
23 Apr 2023 21:13:13
Hypothetical DeBrincat trades
Ott: DeBrincat
For the 5th overall
Ott : DeBrincat, 2nd in 2024, and a 3rd in 2025
For the 4th overall
Ott : DeBrincat
Nyr : Zibanejad
Ott : DeBrincat, Jarventie
Nyr : Lafreniere, Kakko, 2nd (any year in the next 5 drafts, becomes a 1st if Rangers win the cup in any of those years)
Ott : DeBrincat, Sokolov, 2025 3rd
Buf : Peterka, Savoie, buf 2023 1st
Ott : DeBrincat, 2024 2nd
Col : Byram, Lehkonen
Ott : DeBrincat, Formenton
Lak : Clarke, Byfield, 2023 1st.
1.) 24 Apr 2023 04:54:35
Last two trade proposals must be trolling to get people to respond. (ya got me)
For the record, these are all bad. Why sell low on a guy. c'mon man.
? Homer Trades.
2.) 24 Apr 2023 17:57:00
I’m with the Bee ?.
3.) 24 Apr 2023 20:19:46
I wouldn’t trade after a down year. I think he can mesh well with the guys (same age) and get a groove going. He doesn’t seem too opposed to resigning either so If the AAV is reasonable then why not.
-Think of it this way, you won’t get someone better who can help out immediately in the trade.
4.) 24 Apr 2023 23:37:03
Lol Debrincat was traded coming off of a career year now he’s a RFA with less term control. The sens payed a 7th overall pick in a weak draft for him he’s worth less now due to underplaying and term control so now he’s probably worth around the 14th overall pick.
5.) 25 Apr 2023 02:45:30
So much wrong with a lot of these responses it's crazy. Where to start?
Well first. 2022 being arguably the 2nd deepest draft class, next only to 2023 class, since the 2003 draft, means it's hardly a weak draft class. So let's just nip that garbage in the but now.
Now, secondly, not a chance DeBrincat value has gone down even a hint. If he was a UFA then sure, but he's NOT, he's an RFA. And sure he's coming off a career year, but again, who was he playing with that year? Patrick Kane, arguably the best American born player to lace em up. Binified super star. No way he's going to come in to Ottawa and match that output. Not going to happen. But the fact he came in and proved he can do it without a superstar partner like Kane, and still put near a point a game, at worst keeps him at the same value he was, or betters that value. Anyone with half a brain knows that's a fact!
Thirdly, I'm curious as to how any of these are bad trades? Do you think Ottawa can get more for DeBrincat? Because they definitely would NOT get less, as that would just be dumb of them. A former 40 goal scorer who is capable of what he's done in Ottawa on the 2nd line without a superstar partner is minimum getting what you see here. That's NOT up for debate!
6.) 25 Apr 2023 15:59:14
Wow, that a lot of word salad pal. There's no question anymore of who has half the brain any more.
I would love to know how you Value players.
DeBrincat - 25 yrs old, 5' 7" tall, 165 lbs.
Where do owners make the bulk of their money? I think we can all agree, during a playoff run. I'm sure we can all agree as well that playoff hockey is a totally diffrent animal.
DeBrincat is a good player, but is way to small for playoff hockey.
So lets ask that question again, how do you value players?
No one said he's a bad player, it's just that those trades are horrible for any team trying to pursue the Stanley cup.
7.) 25 Apr 2023 19:21:09
ya but he would help any team get to the playoffs you don't make money from the playoffs if you don't make them.
8.) 25 Apr 2023 21:00:04
Your right for sure. it's just the trades and the logic behind them are so out to lunch. any GM would never do this. even Jim Benning wouldn't do this.
9.) 25 Apr 2023 21:07:41
1 more thing, DeBrincats qualifying offer is is 9 MILLION PER YEAR. who would want that. I can see why Ottawa wouldn't want him lol.
? Homer Trades!
P. s. don't try and defend thus proposal. it's just bad.
10.) 25 Apr 2023 21:38:14
Not good enough for playoff hockey? Lmfao there's litteraly at least 1 playoff run in his history with the Blackhawks that proves you wrong dude. He had played 9 playoff games already and scored 6 points which ain't that bad at all. And that was litteraly the worst year of his personal career and if I'm not mistaken, he was playing hurt in that playoff run too.
Furthermore, Martin St. Louis is one of the best playoff performers in history and was a comparable size and points output to DeBrincat as well.
This trades are anything but out to lunch. I'd say I'd love to hear what you think his value is in a trade but I'd sooner as a monkey for its opinion as it would likely be a lot less biased lol
Where did you get that number for the Qualifying offer? Lmfao his cap hit was 6.75 or somewhere around that which is where the Qualifying offer would be sitting around, NOT 9 million lol. Though if it were that would be better as I'd just say let another team offer sheet him in that case and collect the 4 1sts in compensation lol.
Fact is, if a team wants high quality, they need to offer high quality in return. And it don't get much higher quality than a proven 40 goal scorer who doesn't need a superstar crutch to lean on.
And while bigger guys might have a few advantages that smaller guys don't, the smaller guys also have their own list of advantages, like speed, agility, and longevity of career.
11.) 26 Apr 2023 00:58:17
Mybads takes are awful but Debrincat is not a soft player. He’d do well in playoffs he’s a very good player. A comparison would be a smaller Jake Guzentzel.
12.) 26 Apr 2023 01:35:19
Don't be salty bud. your post just shows you hockey knowledge is more of a day dream than reality.
You made this post, now we all get to comment. and laugh a little.
One playoff run isn't much of a playoff history lol.
As for making any trades. I don't think I would trade him, being a down year.
Not many teams would be able to accommodate his contract.
Little guys do have speed and agility, but one good hit smaller guys will take a second thought at going into the greasy areas!
13.) 26 Apr 2023 22:56:24
Bumblebeetuna- I guess you never heard of Brendan Gallagher and Brad Marchand? Guess who hits more then both? Alex Debrincat. Wanna know who else he hits more then? Mathew Tkachuk. Not defending this guy but just saying Debrincat is an absolute warriors not to the extent of Gallagher but a similar mortar to Marchand without the Pestiness.
14.) 26 Apr 2023 23:39:57
Vbbbvvbb
He is a great player, as are Marchand and Gallagher. but these 2 guys you mentioned and 5'9" (2" talked. not a huge deal) but also hover around the 180 lbs.
DeBrincat is 165 in his bio.
I'm not hating on DeBrincat at all. he has done remarkably well for his stature!
Just think those trade are bad, that's all.
15.) 27 Apr 2023 03:12:40
Qualifying offer comes from salary not cap hit. Don’t know the exact number but I’m pretty sure it is around 9M. Also heck no from Colorado and the Kings.
16.) 27 Apr 2023 13:17:55
Further to what the Bee said, Gallagher's Dad is a strength and conditioning coach, and told his son he is too small to play in the NHL. Gallagher has always worked hard to add muscle weight.
Marchand is a lot of things, but like Gallagher, he put on a lot of muscle weight, and it has served his exceptionally well. Being physically strong translates to everything, especially attitude. I like Debrincat a lot, but with 15 pounds more muscle on him, he'd be scary good.
Also, EBS is right about how Qualifying Offers are determined.
17.) 27 Apr 2023 19:12:31
A mid to late 1st round pick, plus conditional picks if the player extends would be my guess.
18.) 01 May 2023 00:59:13
Ebsolutely, no it doesn't. Qualifying offer comes from the average annual cap hit value, NOT actual last year salary as you say. Always has.
Facelift39, not a chance dude. That's nowhere close to DeBrincat value. He was aquired for a lot more than that last year when it was very clear to the whole world and every expert that Sens got him for a steal of a deal. It was the talk of the league. After proving he can still go without Kane feeding him, his value is up from that now. And it sure as hell ain't gone down. No chance. That value you gave might get a sign a trade for Formenton and Branstrom or Joseph with him. But it ain't getting DeBrincat.
19.) 01 May 2023 01:05:42
Bumblebee, you're embarrassing yourself with these piss poor evaluations of DeBrincats value dude. He's a Top 6 player on all teams and a Top 3 on some. The value you keep implying is that of a bottom 6 role player. You can't get players like DeBrincat for rubbishty prices like that. It will never work like that. Hell JGP was nowhere near what DeBrincat is when he was traded for a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. Do the math bro. JGP was a high end 3rd line Center at best and got that value. DeBrincat, however, at best can be a mid level 1st line winger and at worst a low 2nd line winger. He will get a much bigger return than JGP did and you know I'm right.
20.) 01 May 2023 05:17:10
The sens paid for two years of a player and now they're trying to sell a year is a way of looking at his value
And ebs is right about the qualifying offers, debrincat cap hit was 6.4 on his last deal and his QO 9 mill agreed?
21.) 02 May 2023 04:00:41
@mybad2
Has anyone agreed with you yet.?
??????????????????.
05 Apr 2023 23:05:02
Here's a thought if Ottawa can't get DeBrincat Signed long term.
Ott : DeBrincat, Chabot, and Thompson/ Docker
Buf : Dahlin, Savoie, and BUF 2023 1st
Again this only if DeBrincat won't sign in Ottawa. Otherwise, sign him and forget this one.
Buffalo gets a 40 goal scorer who could help them to entice Kane to come home and play with a former team mate and still gets a quality Top 2 capable DMan in Chabot to replace Dahlin. Having Power already doesn't hurt this either.
Ottawa gets a slight upgrade on Chabot who is less injury proned and at the same time recovers the pick the lost in original DeBrincat trade no harm no foul plus gets a mid first in a strong draft to replace Docker or Thompson and the other 2 picks originally given up in the original DeBrincat trade.
If DeBrincat does sign however here's another one to look at
Ott : OTT 2024 1ST, Sokolov, and Chabot
Buf : Buf 2023 2nd, and Dahlin.
1.) 06 Apr 2023 02:25:54
LMAO Dahlin wont be moved. When it’s all said and done I believe in 20 years time Dahlin will be known as the better player then Makar. He is Nick Lindstrom with better offence. He was in the Norris race prior to injury ( it’s speculated he’s playing injured)
2.) 06 Apr 2023 11:36:21
Trading Dahlin would be a mistake of epic proportion. He is on the brink of taking a spot in the top 3 defenseman in the NHL, and has as much or more talent than Makar or Fox. I am sure that the Sabres GM would give a big NO to this proposal, as soon as he picked himself up off the floor. he fell off his chair laughing upon hearing this proposal.
3.) 06 Apr 2023 18:55:40
I wanted to do this trade years ago as I don’t like Chabot and saw huge potential in Dahlin (his value was lower when people thought he may only be average) . Unfortunately now you don’t trade top Dmen for any offer.
I still think Ottawa should trade Chabot as I think his value is higher than his ability- maybe for a #1 goalie or just restocking the draft pool.
4.) 07 Apr 2023 17:41:03
HockeyDad Ottawa don't need another Goalie. Especially not one that would cost them something like Chabot. No thank you lol.
VbbVbb they were litteraly just talking about moving Dahlin last year when all that Eichel crap was happening. Sure those talks went quite but if Dahlin wants out they will likely accommodate his wishes. And this is about as good an offer as they would get for him as far as I'm concerned, I really don't see any team giving up much more for him as good as he is. Chabot has proven he's not a far cry in skill or value from Dahlin and DeBrincat is a proven 40 goal scorer who has also proven he can play without a superstar feeding him. Plus Kane already on record saying he'd love to play with DeBrincat again so this would be the perfect way to entice him to come home to Buffalo.
5.) 08 Apr 2023 16:27:17
If I’m the leafs I’d offer Mathews++ in a heartbeat they were never talking about moving him that’s ridiculous don’t believe everything you read on instagram.
05 Apr 2023 22:27:09
Not my first choice but I did see rumors of EK trade back to Ottawa and HEAVY retention so figured I'd throw my own proposal out there and see what yall think?
SJS : Branstrom, Formenton, Sokolov, OTT 2024 1st
OTT : Karlsson 75% retained (50% by SJS and 25% by CHI)
CHI : OTT 2024 4th, CHI 2024 2nd
Chicago adds a couple picks to help their rebuild to take on salary to reach cap floor.
San Jose adds some solid young players and a 1st in next year's draft to offloading half of EKs horrible contract.
Ottawa gets EK back at a respectable cost both trade wise and cap hit wise knowing how injury proned and inconsistent EK has been the last couple years.
Sanderson Karlsson
Chabot Chychrun
Klevin Zub
Hamonic
Ottawa would have a deadly defense though heavily injury proned.
1.) 22 Apr 2023 03:09:38
Karlsson can stay away. this season was a flash in the pan. WAY too much for him. San Jose would have to retain a ridiculous amount. Ottawa would regret that contract real fast.
17 Feb 2023 16:42:12
Ott : Talbot
Ari : 2023 2nd
.
Ott : Zaitsev, 2023 3rd
Wpg : Future considerations
.
Ott : DeBrincat
For a Top 4 pick at Draft Day
.
Ott wins a Top 2 pick in lottery with their own pick or moves up to Top 4 from where ever they end up using their own 1sts in 2023 and 2024 plus whatever is needed out of Jarventie, Branstrom, Sokolov, Boucher, Thompson, or Docker.
.
Ottawa drafts Fantilli and Mishkov if they don't win Bedard sweepstakes or Bedard and Michkov if they do win it.
.
Stutzle Bedard Giroux
Tkachuk Norris Mishkov
Grieg Pinto Batherson
Or
Tkachuk Norris Michkov
Fantilli Stutzle Giroux
Grieg Pinto Batherson
.
Giving up next years 1st to improve this year's 1st tells your team you actually believe the rebuild should be over and you are ready to compete. Also by bringing in 2 entry level contracts and freeing up over 10 million in contracts it gives Ottawa room to go for a veteran Top 2 DMan in free agency.
1.) 17 Feb 2023 17:20:06
Yes because obviously a team is going to give up more then what Ottawa gave up in a much stronger draft. At 4th overall Michkov will probably be drafted with Fantili and Leo Carlson going ahead. Michkov looks like he will be an absolute star. Think of a prime Ilya Kovlachuk yeah no way a team will give up a high end ELC for a player who struggled this season who will be looking for 9 million in the offseason
It’ll take a 1st at minimum to dump Zaitsev.
Talbot also doesn’t return a 2nd. With the way he’s been playing. Arizona also does not need him at all he’s be the backup unless they move Veljelmelka who they might buy in that case it’d probably be for a late pick.
2.) 17 Feb 2023 17:42:53
The Jets don't have the cap space to waste on Zaitsev this year or next.
3.) 17 Feb 2023 18:04:11
- Why would a rebuilding team like ARI trade a 2nd for a 35 year-old UFA G in Talbot?
- I see Talbot going to CGY or someone making a run, who needs an insurance goalie, but for a latter-round pick, not a 2nd.
- I can't see any of these happening.
4.) 17 Feb 2023 18:57:53
Zaitsev wouldn't improve the Jets defense at all. His cap hit is a millstone that the Sens can keep.
5.) 18 Feb 2023 01:15:03
Vbbvbb 1st off, it's a slightly stronger draft yes, NOT a much stronger draft as you say.
Secondly, it's not much more at all. Look at the facts. When Ottawa traded the pick, they knew both Savoie and Lambert were both still available and were both high end picks if taken. They still traded that pick which was NUMBER 7 overall plus they added a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick to boot. They also knew that it was a risk trading for DeBrincat, yes he put up near a point a game and 40 goals, bit look at the facts, he did that playing along side Patrick Kane. Before that he played alongside Connor McDavid. That's a far cry from the support Ottawa offered and there was no chance in hell they could know if he could translate that output to a team without a bonified super stud to help him.
There are a few major differences now.
1 - he proved he can put up similar points without that Super stud feeding him
2 - is that yeah they would be going for a top 4 pick in a slightly stronger draft, but A - his value has risen due to performance without a super stud, and B - the recipients aren't giving up a 2nd and 3rd to boot.
And finally, 3 - when the initial trade was made, everyone and there mom were saying Ottawa got him cheap to the point they fleeced Chicago for him. If that's the case then even before his value went up in Ottawa, he was worth a lot more than the 7th overall, a 2nd, and a 3rd that he was originally traded for. So yeah, he's 100% worth a top 4 pick in this year's draft based on that alone!
6.) 18 Feb 2023 01:21:21
Vbbvbb also with regards to Talbot he absolutely is worth a 2nd, they guys has played great, Ottawa is without its Top center, both goalies and now best dman yet they still stealing games. And Talbot has looked great in his starts, the only thing working against him is injuries, otherwise he'd be worth a late 1st in this or next years draft.
As for Zaitsev, not a chance it would take a 1st to offload him now, lmfao get real bud, dude has been looking solid the last 10 to 12 games since coming back from AHL and only has 1 more season on his contract, he's litteraly the perfect rental at this point. If Ben Chariot can get Montreal a high 1st then Zaitsev with 1 year left can easily be offloaded without giving up much else of anything. You're living in the past with this one bud.
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03 Mar 2023 00:51:18
NotACasual while you were one of 3 guys constantly bashing my proposals there were 2 others who did as well that I need to say I told you so to lol.
One of which is TreverA lol
The other I can't quite remember who it was.
Someone irrelevant I guess lol pretty sure they were a Calgary fan though that I made a bragging rights bet or 2 with on which team would finish better in the standings and which teams Top 6 would make a bigger impact between Ottawa and Calgary. That one wasn't you was it? Lol.
1.) 05 Mar 2023 07:37:14
I don't think I really bash, I'm not as verbal as some on here but I can and if I ever said anything that upset you then yeah I'm sorry. Maybe it's how I word stuff, I'm sorta like that irl too nobody can tell when I'm being serious. I don't remember making a bet with anyone on here so that definitely wasn't me but at the beginning of the season I 100% would've had money on Calgary ahead of Ottawa so I would've been wrong regardless lol. I was just heated cause you must've got me mixed up with someone else cause I never said what it was that you think I said.
2.) 05 Mar 2023 07:37:57
I can confidently say that you got me mixed up with someone else but if i did indeed say the things you claim then i am sorry.
3.) 07 Mar 2023 19:20:22
All good, I likely did get you mixed up with someone else. It has been a few months since I actually posted anything on here to be quite honest. So I do apologize for the confusion.
28 Feb 2023 00:34:05
Hey NotACasual I thought the Sens needed to give away 2 1sts to move Zaitsevs contract? Lmfao guess I was right again and you were wrong as always huh pal? ?.
1.) 28 Feb 2023 16:29:29
You're clearly a troll because i've never said that, so i typed in Zaitsev in the search bar and what i said was
28 Dec 2022 16:56:50
so a 1st, cap dump, 2 alright prospects, potential criminal and a bottom 6 forward for an elite young playmaker and Top 4 D? Lol
NotACasual
in response to you trying to package Zaitsev along with Boucher, Jarventie, Formenton, Joseph and a 1st to get Zegras and Klingberg. Never mentioned anything about two 1sts, idk why you feel the need to lie and idk what i did to live rent free in your head. i also don't recall a time "i was wrong" and you were right lmao wtf are you on about ? Idk why you'd lie to make yourself look good and me look bad while knowing this site has receipts to easily debunk your claim lmao
2.) 28 Feb 2023 16:35:17
Also if you wanna see how i valued Zaitsev, here's a trade i posted in Aug 2022, idk where you see the 2 1sts on here.
08 Aug 2022 10:18:20
To Ottawa Senators :
LD/RD - Jakob Chychrun (4.60 @ 3 UFA)
to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick - 2023 (OTT)
C - Shane Pinto (ELC)
RD - Jacob Bernard-Docker (ELC)
RD - Nikita Zaistev (4.50 @ 2 UFA)
if you can show me proof that i said that then ill take back what i said but from what i can see ive never said anything nor found a time that i was wrong and you were right supposedly lmao i know spending valentines day alone mustve been tough lil bro
3.) 01 Mar 2023 22:56:15
That's not the previous comment you made that I was referring too. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up, you're free to if you like, but the one I was referring to was where you and I were debating Zaitsevs value on his own no package. I said Sens could dump his full contract for a 2nd, and you said it would at least take a 1st or big cap retention because of his negative value lol. Neither of which were needed like I said.
Also, would you look at that Chychrun deal? All the proposals I made that you and your buddies kept laughing at and saying was nowhere near enough for Chychrun lol and I said was a massive overpayment lol and here sens get him for much less as expected. Not only that but Top 5 protection on the 1st, and no need for Sanderson, Pinto, or Grieg to be involved at all.
Do I need to keep saying I told you so? Lmfao.
4.) 02 Mar 2023 04:12:17
Go ahead and look for where i said that, because you know you're making stuff up lmao. Also me and my buddies? I don't know anybody on here, why are you on here double liking your replies from this account and your burner lool. Literally nobody thinks that Chychrun was good, use Ekholm and Jeannot as examples. Idk why you're being a clown coming at me, if you cant take criticism then why are on you this site? must've had a good cry when i supposedly disagreed with your value of Chychrun lmao
5.) 02 Mar 2023 04:15:26
Go look for it instead of crying lmao must've been real hurt if you remember when i supposedly said that and waited for it to happen to say something lmao, ill admit im wrong if you find me saying it cause i genuinely don't remember.
6.) 02 Mar 2023 04:29:41
edit : *nobody thinks that the Chychrun trade was good* Arizona got robbed
7.) 03 Mar 2023 00:38:00
Also even your previous post within this thread proves my case for me.
You know, the one about adding 2 quality prospects like Docker and Pinto if sens hope to move Zaitsev in the deal? Lmfao you bit yourself in the foot in that one lol.
8.) 03 Mar 2023 02:43:23
Move the goal posts some more you cry baby lmao still haven't provided proof that i said that, cry harder
9.) 03 Mar 2023 14:57:10
You said it would take a 3rd to move Zaitsev not a 2nd so you actually lied about that. Crazy how some posters spin the facts. Don’t waste your time with this guy casual.
10.) 30 Mar 2023 02:57:38
Ebsolutely I said a 2nd or a 3rd but definitely NOT a 1st. Nice try though.
And NotACasual say what you want but in no way did Arizona get robbed in that deal what so ever. Look at Chychruns stats, plus minus, points per game, etc, plus the fact he was so injury proned. They actually got more than he was worth in all reality. A mid to high pick in the best draft year since 03, plus a 2nd that can turn into a 1st in the right scenario plus a 3rd is above what he was worth. A great contract doesn't change his value that much. And Ottawa can still become the loser of this trade if Arizona uses that pick to draft Mishkov who may very well drop outside Top 5 and into their lap. No way possible for Arizona to lose this trade just because you or some of these other wanna be gms on here believe he's worth more than he is just because Ottawa was the team to land him. ?.
25 Aug 2022 19:04:58
Hey TrevorA. You wanted proof Chychrun wants to go to Ottawa? Here it is.
01 May 2023 01:05:42
Bumblebee, you're embarrassing yourself with these piss poor evaluations of DeBrincats value dude. He's a Top 6 player on all teams and a Top 3 on some. The value you keep implying is that of a bottom 6 role player. You can't get players like DeBrincat for rubbishty prices like that. It will never work like that. Hell JGP was nowhere near what DeBrincat is when he was traded for a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. Do the math bro. JGP was a high end 3rd line Center at best and got that value. DeBrincat, however, at best can be a mid level 1st line winger and at worst a low 2nd line winger. He will get a much bigger return than JGP did and you know I'm right.
01 May 2023 00:59:13
Ebsolutely, no it doesn't. Qualifying offer comes from the average annual cap hit value, NOT actual last year salary as you say. Always has.
Facelift39, not a chance dude. That's nowhere close to DeBrincat value. He was aquired for a lot more than that last year when it was very clear to the whole world and every expert that Sens got him for a steal of a deal. It was the talk of the league. After proving he can still go without Kane feeding him, his value is up from that now. And it sure as hell ain't gone down. No chance. That value you gave might get a sign a trade for Formenton and Branstrom or Joseph with him. But it ain't getting DeBrincat.
01 May 2023 00:43:48
Sosahabs goalies should never be worth more than any other position. They are a dime a dozen. There are plenty goalies more than good enough to go pro and never do for simple fact there's not enough teams to facilitate them.
01 May 2023 00:35:44
Get real NotACasual, you have that completely backwards. Winnipeg would most definitely need to add a lot. DeBrincat carries far more value than Hellebyuck does for plenty of reasons. Goalies are far easier to find than proven 40 goal scorers and are far bigger risks to trade for as they may be great on 1 team and terrible on another. You need to stop passing on sens players trade values.
25 Apr 2023 21:46:58
You are litteraly the only person dumb enough to say Ottawa overpaid lol even every expert out there claims the exact opposite.
It was NEVER once said that vbbvbb you need more reliable sources dude. 2023 and 2022 were the 2 deepest draft classes since 2003. That's a fact. They only talked about it all over since like 2018 till now. It was all over the internet for years.
30 Mar 2023 02:57:38
Ebsolutely I said a 2nd or a 3rd but definitely NOT a 1st. Nice try though.
And NotACasual say what you want but in no way did Arizona get robbed in that deal what so ever. Look at Chychruns stats, plus minus, points per game, etc, plus the fact he was so injury proned. They actually got more than he was worth in all reality. A mid to high pick in the best draft year since 03, plus a 2nd that can turn into a 1st in the right scenario plus a 3rd is above what he was worth. A great contract doesn't change his value that much. And Ottawa can still become the loser of this trade if Arizona uses that pick to draft Mishkov who may very well drop outside Top 5 and into their lap. No way possible for Arizona to lose this trade just because you or some of these other wanna be gms on here believe he's worth more than he is just because Ottawa was the team to land him. ?.
07 Mar 2023 19:20:22
All good, I likely did get you mixed up with someone else. It has been a few months since I actually posted anything on here to be quite honest. So I do apologize for the confusion.
03 Mar 2023 00:38:00
Also even your previous post within this thread proves my case for me.
You know, the one about adding 2 quality prospects like Docker and Pinto if sens hope to move Zaitsev in the deal? Lmfao you bit yourself in the foot in that one lol.
01 Mar 2023 22:56:15
That's not the previous comment you made that I was referring too. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up, you're free to if you like, but the one I was referring to was where you and I were debating Zaitsevs value on his own no package. I said Sens could dump his full contract for a 2nd, and you said it would at least take a 1st or big cap retention because of his negative value lol. Neither of which were needed like I said.
Also, would you look at that Chychrun deal? All the proposals I made that you and your buddies kept laughing at and saying was nowhere near enough for Chychrun lol and I said was a massive overpayment lol and here sens get him for much less as expected. Not only that but Top 5 protection on the 1st, and no need for Sanderson, Pinto, or Grieg to be involved at all.
Do I need to keep saying I told you so? Lmfao.