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25 Sep 2025 17:15:40
If Tuch was to be officially on the market there would be significant interest. Zero chance BUF would bite on this offer. The player and the team seem happy together for the moment, but if that changed, Tuch would command a sizeable return.

26 Sep 2025 15:47:13
Teams can't expect to get a very good player from teams for bottom six players and unproven AHL ones. The Leafs would have to give up Cowen and a #1 pick, if they had one, to get the Sabres to even consider a trade for Tuch.

28 Sep 2025 21:23:35
Maybe if Tuch says he only wants to go to the Leafs, otherwise we don't have the pieces to compete with most teams to get him.

Idk why you are so eager to trade Danford tho. Our defense is on the older side. He plays a simple game like Tanev. He's a righty. I'd rather hold on to him.

Robertson is what he is. He'd be a throw in on this deal and throw ins don't move the needle.

22 Sep 2025 17:34:23
Sharks Trade
Toffoli

Leafs Trade
Domi
McMann
Kampf

Any player with a NTC/NMC will have to waive to complete this trade proposal.

Leafs get a very serviceable RWinger to replace Marner, as well as downsize the forwards currently on the roster as there are too many, Leafs add 1.5 million in this proposal for more Cap Space.

Sharks a team looking to add some veterans to this young very talented group they are building, this 3 for 1 adds much needed depth as well.

Thoughts ?

24 Sep 2025 14:05:18
- Toffoli is a 30 goal scorer in each of the last 3 years, so he’s definitely better than serviceable.

- by all accounts he’s been a great vet in SJ, and has really taken to his role. He seems to enjoy it there, and if he’s going to waive, it would only be to go to a team with a legitimate shot at a Cup.

- SJ is looking to play more kids. Why would they want to block 3 development paths like this? Also, where’s the picks or prospects any rebuilding team needs to have?

- Quantity ≠ Quality, and it never will.

05 Sep 2025 19:55:12
Buffalo Trades
Tuch

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Danford (OHL)

Yep Pinball is back being September.

Thoughts ?

05 Sep 2025 20:31:14
Yup……. more lopsided trades. ??.

05 Sep 2025 20:57:49
Nashan
Tuch is a trade chip and not to get another older player like Tuch as Buffalo is in a rebuild.
NRobertson with another team is probably a 20 to 25 Goal Winger and Danford is a very good prospect.
How you look at this as being lopsided is confusing.

05 Sep 2025 22:41:32
Welcome back Pinball. You’re a man of your word.

This is an unbelievably one-sided, homer-trade, but you’re a man of your word, and that’s more important. I hope you enjoy the season ahead?

P. S. I think your beloved team will play with more balls and respectability than in past years. They are more of a Treliving team and less of a Dubas team, so while they won’t hoist a Cup, I think they’ll look a lot less petulant and silly with bitchy Mitchy out of the 416. Enjoy?.

06 Sep 2025 02:33:13
Chickenfoot
Thanx for acknowledging that I am a man of my word and would to be off until September, and even though we almost always disagree it's nice to be back and have my negative feedback ?.

06 Sep 2025 02:35:07
And yes this will be a different team Chickenfoot, wonder who The Leaf whipping boy will be this season, if I were to guess I would say Rielly.

06 Sep 2025 15:40:16
You may be right about that Pinball. Rielly is in decline, and he won’t waive for a trade. With a new family I don’t blame him. Their family is in Toronto and any new parent would want the help and support of nearby family.

09 Sep 2025 15:11:30
Danford shouldn't be an option for a trade. Our Dcore is old to say the least and he looks to potentially be a more physical version ot Tanev if he develops properly and gets more disciplined. Tuch would be a great add and maybe it's something that we revisit closer to the deadline and get in on the bidding war for him cause he won't be a cheap add unless he tells Buffalo he only wants to come to TO.

Robertson is gonna get some opportunities this year to move up the lineup. We will see if he runs with it. But that 1RW spot is wide open for the taking out of camp. We will see some LWs getting looks, Roy likely gets a look. If Roslovic gets a PTO he could also take that spot out of camp/ preseason. A lot of wait and see, but hopeful for some bounce back years from a few of our guys.

05 Sep 2025 19:53:40
Well I am out of Pinball Jail and just in time for a training camp trade to post.

Buffalo Trades
Tuch

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Danford (OHL)

Sabres a rebuilding Team gets 2 young players in this deal with only a year left on Tuch's contract.
Leafs get a solid RWinger to play in the top 6.

Thoughts ?

05 Sep 2025 22:42:28
Horrible trade, but welcome back you principled but delusional beauty?.

02 Sep 2025 13:52:16
Leafs:
E. Karlsson D

Penguins:
M. Riley D
N. Robertson RW
M. Domi C

Rangers:
E. Malkin C

Penguins:
G. Perreault RW
A. Gonchar Di

Montreal:
S. Poulin RW
7th 2026
7th 2027

Penguins:
C. Price G
1st 2026
2nd 2026
2nd 2027

03 Sep 2025 00:57:18
So MTL gives up a 1st (in 2026 no less) and TWO seconds to dump price, get two 7th rounders, and Poulin?

For reasons already stated Rielly won’t waive.

03 Sep 2025 16:36:06
Karlsson was a very god player. was. not sure he puts you over the hump.

05 Sep 2025 03:56:11
McTavish is a stud, but you don’t overpay to this degree. This is a can’t miss deal for ANA.

04 Aug 2025 04:31:11
Philadelphia Flyers receive:

(C)Mason McTavish (Unsigned *RFA*)
(RD)Tristan Luneau
(RW/LW)Sasha Pastujov

Anaheim Ducks receive:

(RW/LW)O.Tippet
(C/W)J.Luchanko
(LD)E.Andrae
(RD)R.Ristolainen (50%retained)
Leafs(2027)1st,(2026)2nd,and a (2028)3rd.

Ducks move on from a disgruntled McTavish who wants out of Anaheim while replacing his production with NHL ready talent like (RW/LW)Tippet and (RD) Ristolainen and get back some good NHL ready prospects prospects in (C/W)Jett Luchanko (2024 13th overall) and (LD) E. Andrae, plus a 1st,2nd,and 3rd round pick. A "Best Case" scenario for Anaheim who is forced to move on from McTavish and get the best return possible.

Flyers overpay for McTavish who is hopefully a peice of the Flyers future Center core along with Zegras,Couturier,and Jack Nesbitt. And they get another option with legitimate elite upside to play with Martone and Michkov.

Thoughts?

06 Aug 2025 16:40:09
lol . who said McTavish was disgruntled?

15 Aug 2025 13:38:21
McTavish and his agent. The market. The fact that Anaheim disputes with every young player they have to sign and have already chose to send out multiple young players they feel don't match their "rebuild style". McTavish is on Serrevalli's top20 trade targets. I mean. Where there's smoke there's usually fire.

04 Aug 2025 03:25:42
Anaheim Ducks receive: Owen Tippet, Noah Cates, Ristolainen (50% retained), 2027 Leafs 1st, 2026 2nd and a 2027 3rd.

Verbeek and Quenneville get some physicality and top6 30 goal potential with Tippet locked in on a reasonable contract for term(especially considering the CAP rising) And a solid 2-3C in N. Cates who's competent defensively, is good on the PK, and can add good scoring depth and flexibility up and down the line-up. And Veteran Ristolainen for cheap as a defensive minded defensemen with size, puck moving ability, and a physical edge, who can plug into The Ducks blue line immediately.
Plus a good Defensive prospect in Andrae and the 2027 1st rounder and other picks to stock the prospect pool and or use as ammunition.
With this The Anaheim Ducks hesitantly move on from a disgruntled McTavish who was seeking a change of scenery and not happy with his utilization, FA additions, making him unsure of his place in The Ducks line-up. Then with McTavish asking for more term and AAV then The Ducks/Verbeek felt comfortable giving him.... Verbeek pulls the trigger.

Philadelphia Flyers receive:
Mason McTavish, Tristan Luneau, 2026 4th, 2027 5th.

Flyers overpay to get a young promising Center like McTavish who fits the timeline, adda size at 1C-2C, and possesses a rare skillet The Flyers desperately need to develop next to Michkov and Martone, AND plays a position of need. Slotting McTavish into the top6 Center role with Zegras and being able to ease Couturier and Dvorak further down the line-up is worth the overpay for Philadelphia. Allowing them to develop Nesbitt and Luchanko correctly. And add RD prospect Tristan Luneau to a blue line in dire need of prospects.
Flyers give up a ransom and will DEF miss Tippet and Cates, but sending out a top6 scoring winger and competent two way Center and banking on the future with two much younger top6 Centers with elite potential are worth the future picks and veteran talent The Flyers lose. Briere continues backing on the future and pays a premium buts adds two Centers to play with Michkov, Martone, Konecny, and Foerster in The Flyers top6.

Curious as to what everyone thinks. Must admit I am A Flyers fan but I'm hoping I held back my bias.

21 Jul 2025 21:11:16
J. Robertson & I. Luybushkin for M. Rielly, B. McMann, E. Cowan & 2nd rounder.

Stars sign Olafsson.

Leafs dump Jarnkrok & Kampf then sign Kunin.

22 Jul 2025 13:41:43
Leafs need to send more.

16 Jul 2025 18:06:31
Ana - Zellweger and Strome

Tor - Reilly, Cowan, Peksa and Kampf and 3rd.

Reilly may waive for a good young up and coming team in sunny California.

The Ducks could use a little more experience on the blue line. Kampf could a decent 4th center and PK guy

The Leafs could use an offensive man. Strome could play 3rd line center.

19 Jul 2025 13:21:31
So I do think Anaheim is a up and coming team, but they need defensive Improvents and I don't think that means Rielly.

19 Jul 2025 16:39:06
This trade would only be doable if the Leads would retain $3 mil a year on declining Reilly's contract.

19 Jul 2025 21:38:24
I’m taking Rielly at his contract over Provonov, Gavrikov, Darnel Nurse and Keandre Miller in a heartbeat. He has value for sure. Still better then those guys.

22 Jul 2025 02:17:19
Rielly is clearly in decline, and he’s not waiving. He and his wife have a new baby.

The leafs have 3 picks left in the upcoming draft, which is going to be a deep draft. Years of mismanagement have left them with holes to fill and no real options to build the current lineup into a winner. It’s time to rebuild again.

13 Jul 2025 17:15:27
VB, been thinking about Toronto adding Karlsson like you said. The only way I take him is if Reilly goes the other way.

Pens - Karlsson (no retention) and Rust

Leafs- Reilly, Cowan, Robertson, Peksa and Jarnkrok.

I read that Jarnkrok actual salary this year is about a million.

14 Jul 2025 00:02:44
Rielly won’t waive his NMC.

15 Jul 2025 17:07:02
Yah I dont see Rielly waving. Maybe to Vancouver to be home or to a top team. But I dont seem him doing so for the Pens and tbh I dont think many teams are in the market for what he brings at the price he is at unfortunately. Can only hope a full year of him and Carlo pays off at this point.

16 Jul 2025 11:49:56
I don't think Reilly is as bad as people are making him out to be. it is just his turn to be the whipping boy. personally, Karlsson may be better offensive but never found him to be a stalwart defenseman that actually defends.

16 Jul 2025 23:31:04
I would do that from a leafs POV.

17 Jul 2025 23:23:23
Reilly tries to play like an offensive man, but lacks the big shot from the point. Only really scores off the rush or coming into the high slot when the Leafs have control of the puck. His passing is meh at best and he lacks the foot speed he use to have to be effectively evasive. It is what it is at this point. He has great games and he has awful ones. He scores some clutch goals and is the cause of some being scored on us as well.

19 Jul 2025 21:40:08
@MG69 in his “awful games” he’s still a very good player compared to someone like Holl.

19 Jul 2025 22:58:14
Oh absolutely. Holl is awful. He's a double edge sword kinda player who has about the same amount of good games as he does bad ones. It is what it is at this point. Hopefully a solid off-season and full year with Carlo will have him playing good more times than not.

22 Jul 2025 10:54:42
EVERYONE is a good player compared to Holl.

22 Jul 2025 16:13:35
I sometimes sit with a drink and wonder what could have been had Dubas not protected Holl and instead protected McCann. We'd have a versatile forward still, capable of playing all three forward positions effectively. *Sigh*.

26 Jul 2025 22:55:19
That McCann move was absolutely bizarre, and ruined whatever credibility Dubas had left in the eyes of many.

He was a terrible GM. A poor judge of talent, overspent in negotiations, and when his job was on the line he traded a ridiculous amount of assets to keep his job. He should never have been allowed to trade away all those assets in his final year.

11 Jul 2025 21:00:21
Sabres: Byram, Tuch

Leafs: Cowan, Carlo, Robertson, Kampf, 2nd round pick 2026

11 Jul 2025 22:07:14
And some Leaf fans wonder why they have such a bad reputation.

11 Jul 2025 23:37:28
Hahahahaha?.

11 Jul 2025 09:57:44
Sabres: Byram, Tuch

Leafs: Cowan, Carlo, Kampf, Robertson

11 Jul 2025 13:46:18
That's weighted pretty generously in YYZ's favour.

08 Jul 2025 10:08:51
Reilly, Cowan and Robertson for Dunn and Tolvanen.

I think the Leafs biggest need is a PP quarterback.

08 Jul 2025 23:45:02
Dunn is not the answer there. Would sooner pursue Erik Karlsson with retention. To be honest Rielly and Cowan + for Erik Karlsson and Rust or Rakell make a ton of sense for both teams.

10 Jul 2025 02:36:58
Disagree on Karlsson. 10 million for him for two more years is way to much. Dunn is much younger and makes a reasonable amount of money in comparison. Also like the thought of Tolvanen as a 3rd line guy. Solid defensively and can also put the Puck in the net.

Knies Matthews Maccelli
McMann Tavares Nylander
Domi Roy Tolvanen
Lorentz Laughton Jarnkrok (hopefully gets traded)

McCabe tanev
Dunn Carlo
Benoit OEL.

10 Jul 2025 20:39:30
Leafs don’t need a 3rd line guy tho. They have Domi, Roy and Maccelli who are not good enough for top 6 but to good for 4th line.

11 Jul 2025 17:58:51
Disagree again. Maccelli will be given the opportunity on the first line. He is known as a good set up man, just what Matthews and Knies need. His 1st 2 seasons were pretty good on a bad team, and last year he battled injuries according to reports.

02 Jul 2025 17:57:19
Toronto looking for a center and Nashville may have what they need.

TOR: Stamkos - $8,000,000
NAS: McMann and Carlo and 2026 3rd pk $4,835,000

03 Jul 2025 12:59:12
Toronto has had interest in one particular center and now is the time to make the deal.

TOR: McMann and Carlo and 2026 3rd pk $4,835,000

STL: Schenn - 2 yrs left on a 8 yr at 6.5 million.

08 Jul 2025 23:46:22
Don’t think Stamkos is worth anything without retention. Schenn does have value tho.

29 Jun 2025 16:30:29
So this Marner thing is now a soap opera, possible tampering charges etc. Right now Vegas has 5,600.000 in cap space and will have to clear cap to even sign Marner, so if that's the case I have a trade proposal to fix it all.

Toronto Trades
Marner
McMann
Danford (OHL)

Vegas Trades
Hertl
Barbashev

This will give Vegas 16 million in cap space to sign Marner, Vegas get's Marner, McMann plus prospect Danford, Leafs help themselves picking up 2 top 6 players in Hertl and Barbashev, any tampering is over and everyone is happy, yes I said I believe Marner still signs in Toronto but if he doesn't this is my last post until September.
Cheers.

29 Jun 2025 23:33:09
If I was Vegas, I'd just wait and sign him for free.

30 Jun 2025 12:44:58
The leafs have threatened to put tampering charges against Vegas if he signs with them in offseason. It sounds like if a sign and trade isn’t made Vegas if he does end up signing him as a FA they will lose their 1st round pick. Not sure if it disappears like what happened with New Jersey with the Kovy situation or if it goes to leafs.

30 Jun 2025 13:18:04
From what I've read Toronto could end up with the draft picks or cash. It would also void the contract. I imagine Trev is asking for Roy and Barbashev in a sign and trade plus a pick of some sort. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Based on what Friedman said the league is waiting to make an example out of someone for tampering so we'll see what happens.

30 Jun 2025 16:38:30
Most teams are negotiating with upcoming free agents at this time of the year but only the desperate Leafs will threaten tampering charges. What a classy organization.

30 Jun 2025 17:23:47
If Vegas has talked to marner, marner would be fined 1 mil. Team could be 5mil in fines. I hope the nhl says you forfeit all of next years picks + next 1st. They do it every year.

30 Jun 2025 18:08:53
It's a hard thing to prove. A lot of the blame would fall on Mitch's agent. I've seen the same thing @Shootsmcgee, potentially even the picks going to the offended team. There's definitely some sour grapes action going on here from the Leafs side, but I feel like this would happen with any team who is losing a top player. I think the grey area is that technically Vegas still needs permission to be negotiating a contract with Marner's agent and I don't think that's happened. I could be wrong on some of that as I didn't dive too deep into it.

30 Jun 2025 22:12:12
Marner is officially a Golden Knight. Take the next two months off Pinball.

Clearly Vegas wants the spring off too. Welcome to the Marner era.

Treliving is a very good NHL GM, and Dubas is not. Congrats to leaf fans on the great negotiations on Tavares and Knies. Dubas would have spent much more.

29 Jun 2025 16:01:04
Tor: knies

LA: Byfield

Yes I know knies is a great player. But so is Byfield, leafs need a long term center behind Matthews.

30 Jun 2025 12:45:15
I’d take Byfield here.

27 Jun 2025 13:10:16
I have said all along I still believe Marner resigns with The Leafs, but if for arguments sakes he isn't and Vegas is the team that plans on signing him this is my proposal.

Toronto Trades
Marner
McMann

Vegas Trades
Hertl

Before anyone says but Vegas can sign him after July 1 for nothing, this is about an 8 year contract over a 7 year contract, The AAV would be less for Vegas, plus Vegas will have to clear cap space to fit Marner in that's why Hertl goes to Toronto.
I truly believe when it's all said and done Marner resigns, but if he doesn't as promised by Chickenfoot I will be off this site until September.

Thoughts ?

27 Jun 2025 15:33:37
- I suppose it's possible that VGK might value an extra year enough to trade him before the deadline, but I can't see that being a "must" for them.

- Centers are tough to find this off-season, so if Hertl is moved, they could get a good return for him. He has good size, and is coming off a 32 goal/ 61 point season.

- if VGK really does value the 8th year for Marner, it takes mid-level pick.

- if the leafs want Hertl, it's going to take a package to get it, likely in picks or prospects, to help VGK clear cap space, which is the only reason they'd trade Hertl.

- the leafs are very low on both picks and prospects, and are more likely to replace departing players in Free Agency with the cap money that will be freed up from the departure of Marner. and possibly Tavares? (I still think Tavares re-signs, but is forced into a hometown discount well below what he could get if he's willing to put his new home on the market. )

- PINBALL: Marner was photographed househunting in Vegas this week, so it looks like you'll be using a burner profile till September 1st eh? (Just kidding. )

27 Jun 2025 20:14:26
If Vegas is high on Marner and they value that additional year. I imagine a sign and trade is done and the Leafs will get a nice package in return. End of an era in TO and I'm looking forward to what Trev has planned for this team as we lose one of our regular season high end performers. The Tavares signing was a welcomed surprise to see.

24 Jun 2025 15:39:15
Toronto to get the ball rolling.

TOR: Jason Robertson
FLA: Brad Marchand
VGK - Reilly Smith
DET: Patrick Kane
BUF: Bowen Byram

Robertson - Matthews - Knives
Kane - Marchand - Nylander
Domi - Laughton - Smith
Tanev - McMann - Pacioretty

Rielly - Byram
Benoit - Tanev
McCabe - Myers

24 Jun 2025 18:51:49
I think you need to get out of the sub.

25 Jun 2025 17:51:57
?

What are the trade, signing, or cap details? Or are you just amusing yourself by aimlessly writing random names on the page?

23 Jun 2025 01:12:14
Oilers need a goalie and are in win now mode

Oilers trade

Matt Savoie

Sam O'Reilly

Skinner

Leafs

Stolarz

23 Jun 2025 04:52:17
Aren't the Leafs in a win now mode as well???

23 Jun 2025 06:49:57
Goalies get traded for 3rd round picks not top prospects.

23 Jun 2025 22:00:57
Leafs having a starter in Woll and oilers need to show mcdavid they are serious about winning. He's going to walk otherwise. Also most staring goalies don't make 2.5 mil a year and are top 3 in league stats.

24 Jun 2025 02:20:21
Goalies are too unpredictable to trade that much for. Stolarz value is probably closer to a 2nd.

20 Jun 2025 15:22:48
I think Dallas & St. Louis have real interest in Ekblad, is if so, they need room.

P. Broberg & T. Krug (LTIR) for B. McMann & prospect.

Blues free up $3.5 & dump $6.5 (out of house payment) while landing a very useful & cheap 20+goal player.

Leafs land a D-stud for under $5 and can move Reilly to Minny or Vancouver where he will excel.

21 Jun 2025 12:30:31
didnt st louis just offer sheet broberg from edmonton, why would they trade him away. and no thanks on krug.

22 Jun 2025 21:32:24
Broberg will be asking for $6 mil next year, Blues have Neighbors, Holloway, Broberg & Fowler all looking & deserving raises next year. Blues will have $5 mil in cap room.

Krug will get traded to a cap floor team (or a super rich team like Rangers or Leafs) . Krug is never playing again.

Blues need to make trades to find room for Ekblad or at very least, to try & keep 2 or 3 out of their 4 expiring contracts.

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