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25 May 2019 15:51:42
WPG: Ehlers, 51st Pick 2019
CGY: Bennett, 26th Pick 2019

Jets get a power forward (something they lack a bit) plus move up into the 1st Round. Flames get a dynamic top 6 LW signed to a great contract.

Jaxon

1.) 25 May 2019 16:24:35
That’s a firm no from Winnipeg.


2.) 25 May 2019 17:23:57
Calgary would have to add.


3.) 25 May 2019 18:12:34
I agree not enough from Calgary, also went target aLW?


4.) 25 May 2019 18:48:43
No thanks from Winnipeg.


5.) 25 May 2019 22:11:41
"Signed to a great contract" lool anyways no from jets


 

 

23 May 2019 17:01:24
WPG: Trouba, Ehlers, Perreault
PHI: Couturier, Myers, 11th Overall 2019

Basically it's a Trouba for Couturier plus all the additional adds. Jets get a solid #2 C, a RHD prospect plus a high 1st Round Pick this year. This also saves them cap space to resign Myers. Flyers get a #1 RHD, a top 6 LW and a veteran mid 6 W. Both build on their weaknesses and get better.

Lineups:

Connor - Schiefele - Wheeler
Vesalainen - Couturier - Laine
Copp - Lowry - Appleton
Dano - Little - Roslovic

Morrissey - Byfuglien
Niku - Myers
Beauleu - Poolman


Ehlers - Giroux - Vorachek
JVR - Patrick - Koneckny
Perreault - Laughton - Hartman
Lindblom - Knight - Morin

Provorov - Trouba
Gostibehere - Sandheim
Hagg - Gudas

Jaxon

1.) 23 May 2019 17:27:22
Are Perreault and Ehlers worth an 11th overall pick?


2.) 23 May 2019 18:45:38
Couturier is the best piece in the deal so no from Philly. He’s their 1C.


3.) 23 May 2019 18:48:33
Philly won't trade their 1C. They have no one to take his place.


4.) 23 May 2019 20:32:53
Well I mean Giroux can take his place?


5.) 23 May 2019 22:00:57
Don’t forget philly doesn’t make the trade because Trouba wants big $, Ehlers is a question mark and Perrault is a cap dump.


6.) 23 May 2019 22:32:42
Very bad for Philly. Heavily favours WPG.


7.) 24 May 2019 16:08:42
Myres who would be a 6/ 7 d-man on the Jets and an 11th over all are not enough for Ehlers and Perreault even with the 1st part of the trade taken into consideration.


 

 

22 May 2019 19:18:35
WPG: Trouba (resigned), 58th Overall 2019
NYR: 2nd Overall Pick 2019

Jaxon

1.) 22 May 2019 19:36:25
Take out the pick from Winnipeg and add a player/ prospect on the Rangers side and you're close.


2.) 22 May 2019 19:59:30
The Jets may take the 2nd overall pick and Lemieux for Trouba.


3.) 22 May 2019 20:15:56
Depends on what he signs for. if he is asking for $8M a year i don't think its worth it.


4.) 22 May 2019 20:25:18
2nd overall for Laine And Trouba maybe.


5.) 22 May 2019 20:28:22
What’s with these stupid Trouba values? He’s not worth the second overall pick +, you Jets fans are even more delusional than Leafs fans now.


6.) 22 May 2019 20:50:41
What? . Really? The 2nd overall for Trouba? I think that's way to much for Trouba.


7.) 22 May 2019 22:04:48
LOL KAKKO+ FOR TROUBA?

Come on. That's not even remotely close; 'may take the 2nd Overall and Lemieux', are you for real, they'd jump on Trouba and the 2RP for Kakko, LMAO.


8.) 22 May 2019 22:57:35
In all honesty Chevy would piggy back trouba all the way to New York for the 2nd overall pick.


9.) 22 May 2019 23:39:47
So, an extended, young #1 RHD will fetch less than he would as a 20 game rental at the TDL? I knew people here are terrible at assessing player values against picks, but this is actually pretty funny.


10.) 23 May 2019 00:38:06
I can name 30 dman better then Trouba And 4 on the Predators alone.


11.) 23 May 2019 01:32:09
Would you have traded that pick a couple years ago, knowing it was Laine or Matthews for say. I dunno who's comparable . maybe Petro?
Maybe not a good comparison, however, NYR are not going to trade either Hughes or Kakko for Trouba.


12.) 23 May 2019 03:05:05
Trouba is such very very good player, yes. We all know this is true. He is so good as the great Morgan Rielly, but only because of injury is he a little behind in development. The numbers are very similar, but the Trouba is one year behind. Next year will be Trouba going to get 60 points. Maybe more. Would Toronto trade Rielly for the 2nd overall pick? I do not think so. Even last summer before this year when Rielly has such great season I do not think Leafs would make this trade. And I do not think Jets make this trade for the same reason. We will see the great Jacob Trouba will break out next season too. He will be the best defenseman for Winnipeg, maybe ever.


13.) 23 May 2019 03:26:06
So Kadris worth Stephen Johns but Troubas worth more than Kakko.

Come on bud. The bias is clearly, clesrly showing. Its insane.


14.) 23 May 2019 03:47:15
I looked at defenceman rankings, only could find before this season but in one, trouba was ranked 38th and another he was 58th so he must of improved a lot this to be worth a future franchise player.


15.) 23 May 2019 04:31:46
You think Trouba would get more than Kakko at the deadline next year? Trouba is good, nobody is denying that. Kakko looks like he could be generational. He’s either going to get traded for less than you think or walk for nothing after next year. Nothing wrong with keeping him and going all in, but it’s a very realistic possibility. Deadline he probably gets a late first and a mid level prospect.


16.) 23 May 2019 06:08:52
Yeah at no trade deadline does he get the 2nd overall pick.


17.) 23 May 2019 08:01:04
I guess if you guys would trade the rarest position in hockey, a young, proven #1 RHD for a single magic bean, then you are more gutsy than NHL GM's.

I mean a top 5 player has never turned into a bust in the history of hockey, right? I mean you've got Yakupov, Daigle, Wickenheiser, etc. all those guys turned into superstars.

I guess fans would make the trade, as they only see the maximum upside in a draft pick and none of the possible downside. So, the draft pick always achieves his maximum potential with zero negatives for a fan.

But logical thinking like an NHL GM, makes you realize that a single magic bean for a proven commodity isn't much.


18.) 23 May 2019 12:53:44
The thing is, Daigle and Yakupov were one time busts.

Last few years you had:
Dahlin/ Svech
Hischier/ Patrick (the one true down year, but everyone knew that going into the draft)
Matthews/ Laine
McDavid/ Eichel
Ekblad/ Reinhart
MacKinnon/ Barkov
Yakupov/ Murray

The one true bust year was way back in 2012. And Hughes an Kakko are two guys who are basically like Matthews/ Laine all over again. If you don’t take Kakko over Trouba, i don't know man.


19.) 23 May 2019 13:38:03
Look, with where Winnipeg is in their competitive cycle could they decline? Absolutely. Is Trouba going to get Kakko plus from the Rangers? Absolutely not. Everyone knows draft picks are gambles, but those high picks are the safest ones and Kakko floor is likely still a mid 6 scoring forward, with the ceiling of a generational talent. If Winnipeg knows Trouba is going to walk, and they’ve had contract issues with him in the past, then it’s far from a bad deal, more than they’d likely get from anyone else in a trade right now. Throw in a “proven” bottom 6 F if you want, w/ e. I’d take the elite prospect over a 20 something pick and a guy taken in the second/ third round 3 years ago any day. Proven players are traded for picks/ prospects all the time, and prospects of that status are almost never traded because of their ceiling.


20.) 23 May 2019 15:45:48
I think Trouba is good but the bias is over the top here, he is not a #1 RHD put him on any weaker team and he doesn’t do as well. He can’t carry a game like a true #1 RHD. He is great but he’s a #3 D that can slot in as a #2 if need be. But come on in 6 seasons he’s only been healthy for a full season 2 times (he played 81 games one year so I’ll count it) and has only been above 40 points once. So say what you what Winnipeg fans but also know that if he goes to arbitration this year he’s not staying a jet for long and you’ll lose him for nothing next year.


21.) 23 May 2019 16:09:49
I guess that's how we can tell that were all fans here. Fans would definitely make that trade, because they can only see the draft pick reaching their maximum potential, nothing less than that. They don't accept the fact that most draft picks don't live up to their pre-draft hype.

While NHL GM's deal in reality. The chances of a winger, as good as Kakko is, ever being as impactful as a proven, extended #1 RHD, the rarest position in hockey, is very, very slim. So, you can't give up that 1 RHD for a single pick, that may or may not ever turn out.


22.) 23 May 2019 20:49:20
Well for starters LHD is a rarer position and C is more valuable.


23.) 23 May 2019 22:15:08
Trouba has quickly become the best defenseman to ever play. It’s too bad he doesn’t want to play for Winnipeg. Considering he also has had a concussion along with other injuries, wants out and wants big $, I’d say you take the best offer you get and show him the door. If Winnipeg loses Trouba and Myers, the d core will be just as solid as their center depth.
Just curious Zamboni, how is it you text like a scholar when you first came to this site, now you text like English is your 4th language? Did you run into a wall named Jamie Benn just like the Trouba did, yes?


24.) 23 May 2019 22:59:55
Calgary traded a 12th overall pick and two 2nd rounders for hamonic and a 4th, not the perfect comparison but maybe something to consider when judging trouba's actual value.


25.) 24 May 2019 16:51:52
Harmonic also had 3 years left at under 4 mill a year cap hit. Aside from last year up to that point they had comparable offensive numbers before a potential trade. None of the picks were for the upcoming draft, all at least one draft out, and Calgary got a 4th back. It could be argued that Hamonic actually had more value then than Trouba does now and I’d take Kappo over the 1st and 2 seconds even with the first ending up being Dobson.


 

 

22 May 2019 04:33:32
WPG: Trouba
NJ: Severson, Zacha

Jets get a replacement for Trouba and a young C that could hopefully develop to a #2C. Devils get a #1RHD plus with Hughes coming in Zacha becomes expendable.

Jaxon

1.) 22 May 2019 08:18:35
Good trade


2.) 22 May 2019 13:53:33
Yeah value is good Zacha could mould into a good 2c for Ehlers and Laine.


3.) 22 May 2019 14:14:57
This certainly would have possibilities. A very good base fir a deal.


4.) 22 May 2019 14:56:32
Could be a good trade but Zacha is a RFA and unless he can agree to a reasonable contract before the trade I think that Chevy should be wary.


5.) 22 May 2019 17:20:47
Well based on his play his future contract won’t be too much but he might not to sign long term rn ( he might bet on himself being better) but as the deal stands it seems like a good deal for both teams. Both get a good D with New jersey getting the best player but Winnipeg gets a solid top4 D and a NHL center that can still maybe turn into a top 6 forward.


6.) 22 May 2019 20:54:55
"a fair base" as usual.


7.) 23 May 2019 03:25:54
Both Trouba and Zacha are RFA, but only Trouba will go to the arbitration. Haha.

I believe New Jersey will not make this trade until they see how good Hughes actually is in nhl and they let Zacha build more value.


8.) 23 May 2019 14:53:47
Funny Jets fans would take terrible Severson and what most say a bust for trouba but not Kakko? Might be the definition of delusional right there.


9.) 23 May 2019 20:52:59
Delusional is not the right word. Ignorant is better.


 

 

22 May 2019 04:28:43
WPG: Trouba, Perreault, Gustafson
BUF: Reinhart, Ristolainen

Jets get a young #2C, a top 4 RHD to replace Trouba. Sabres get a #1RHD, a veteran mid 6 F that can play up and down the lineup who will add leadership to a young team, and a C/F prospect.

Jaxon

1.) 22 May 2019 08:18:46
Fair imo


2.) 22 May 2019 14:17:56
Remove Perreault, Gustafson and Risto. Just work the deal around Reinhart and picks/ prospects.


3.) 22 May 2019 15:06:37
The Jets wouldn't want Ristolainen so it would take a better player/ prospect plus a #1 draft pick to get all three players from the Jets as Perreault isn't a cap dump.


4.) 23 May 2019 03:39:28
But why is every trade on here for Trouba? Why must he be traded? Can not the Jets just keep the Trouba? He is such very good player. They should just keep him. Why would they trade away such a very very good player?


5.) 23 May 2019 06:26:34
Zamboni. It's either trade or lose him for nothing next year. Get a better return for a year than a playoff run. he's as good as gone just like Matthew's singed a contract until the year he's a ufa. he's as good as gone also.


 

 

 

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04 Feb 2019 21:39:38
Question... What is the real value of a 1st Round Pick this year? Let's say it's from a contending team and will end anywhere from 24-31.

Jaxon

1.) 05 Feb 2019 01:18:09
It's probably the hardest place to draft in all the rounds. Your still expected to get a good player but way more often then not you don't. there are still a few guys in this draft that should be around at 25 that I'd be interested in. But rebuilding teams love to get as many 1st and 2nd round picks as they can leading up to the draft so a first anywhere still has value to those teams even in a weak draft which this one isn't.


 

 

 

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25 Feb 2019 17:07:31
I’m a little rattled we lost Lemieux. I wish we traded Petan instead.

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20 Feb 2019 17:47:44
Does a team like Arizona or Edmonton want to go on the path of draft and develop? Probably not, they’ve both been doing that for how many years now. It’s time for them to move some picks for proven players.

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20 Feb 2019 15:50:32
How is he not? He’s 23, posted back to back 60+ point seasons and is under a great contract for another 6 years. If the Jets trade him for a Top 5 Pick it’s a gamble and they’re not guaranteed an impact player.

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15 Feb 2019 14:58:29
Not Canadian Stanley Cup favourites. Awful goalie situation still, the bottom 6 and bottom pairing defensmen aren’t good, maybe average at best.

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12 Feb 2019 21:33:47
I like it because the Jets lose Kulikov’s salary for next year and because this will help them this year too.

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