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29 Apr 2015 03:59:09
Some moves I'd like to see Ottawa make
At the draft:
To Buf:
Robin Lehner
To Ott:
Nick Baptiste
NYI 2015 2nd
Gives Buffalo a potential goalie of the future and Ottawa gets another hometown kid and a potential scoring winger.
To Boston:
Alex Chaisson
To Ottawa:
Ryan Spooner
2016 5th
Gryba anywhere for anything.
To Nyr:
Ottawa's 2nd
Marcus Hogberg
To Ott:
Carl Hagelin
Gives Ottawa more speed and New York get a big Swedish goalie that can be mentored by Lundqvist and a pick.
To: Arizona
Jared Cowen
Nyi 2nd 2015
To Ottawa:
Ari 3rd 2015
Ottawa gives up a pick to get rid of Cowens contract. He gets a fresh start in Arizona.
Ottawa drafts Chabot at 18. If he's taken then take Kylington.
ReSign
Matt O'Connor to an ELC
Hammond 2 year 1.5 mil per (prove yourself)
Condra 3 years 1.5 per (wants to stay and is cheap)
Hoffman 1 year 2 mil (prove yourself)
Zibanejad 2 years 3 mil per (bridge)
Stone 3 years 4 mil per (bridge kind of like Johansens)
Hagelin 2 years 3 mil (see if he fits with the team)
Offer sheet
Dougie Hamilton 3 years 4.75 per
Boston is tight on cap space and might not be able to match barring some big moves
Phillips and neil retire
Ottawa's lines next year
Macarthur-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan
Hagelin-Pageau-Lazar
Smith-Spooner-Condra
Legwand as an extra
Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Hamilton
Someone-Ceci
Anderson
Hammond
Try out Claesson and Wideman with Ceci and see how they pan out. If not put him with Borowiecki. Baptiste goes to the AHL or back to Junior, whichever he's eligible for. O'Connor goes to the AHL. These moves give Ottawa a much improved defense with a very fast team that can transition really well. Should fit the cap, but I'm not 100%, also Melnyk would have to be willing to spend to the cap, which is the most unlikely thing happening out of this while post.
1.) 29 Apr 2015 07:38:05
ARZ is prolly one of the last teams in need of Cowen
2.) 29 Apr 2015 11:54:03
I like the first two
3.) 29 Apr 2015 12:51:02
I think you are under-estimating what players salaries would be. Like Hoffman would be more up towards 3, and someone like Edmonton would probably over pay for Hammond.
But Hamilton will not leave Boston unless you grossly over-pay. With an offer sheet you have to over pay so the other teams can't match or make it difficult for them to match (ie. Shea Weber) so this means giving Hamilton about 6 million per year so Boston has to make serious changes to match the offer.
I also have seen a lot of big name RFAs thru the years and it seems GMs are reluctant to sign offer sheets. It may have to do with a respect factor with not taking the teams best young players by over-paying.
4.) 29 Apr 2015 14:05:07
Boston trade is horrible. Spooner would get a lot more than Chiasson alone, and you add a draft pick? And BTW, Hamilton isn't going anywhere. Cap is going up, and it would be manageable by that time anyway.
5.) 29 Apr 2015 23:01:02
@Draisaitl I don't know enough about Phoenix's d core so I just figured after moving Yandle and Michalek that Cowen could fit somewhere and at least get a fresh start.
@JF I agree you have to offer a lot to get someone to not match it but Boston is tight to the cap with lots of contracts and they have to sign other guys and they probably want Soderberg back.
@Seabass you are talking about Spooner like he's Krecji. He had a solid end of the season but who knows if he can keep that pace up for 82 games. Chiasson had a down season but he really doesn't fit with Ottawa's style. I think he'd be a better player in Boston. I'd do Chiasson for Spooner straight up to be honest.
6.) 30 Apr 2015 13:58:17
Well, I guess they have OEL, Gormley, Stone, Murphy, Moore and Dahlbeck as a great core to build upon. Plus the 3rd pick which would easily get them Hanifin if they want to have another D.
05 Feb 2015 03:26:26
Seems like Evander Kane is on his way out of Winnipeg based on the recent scratches and I think Ottawa should try and get him.
To Ottawa:
Evander Kane
To Winnipeg:
Chiasson
Neil (they want him for some reason)
Dallas or Ottawa's 2nd (whichever is better at the time)
Ottawa 2016 2nd
I don't follow winnipeg much so I don't know what they need but I know they don't need defence so I'm just taking a shot. Is this enough or does Ottawa add.
1.) I'd say drop a 2nd and Chiasson and add Zibanejad or Hoffman and a 3rd or 4th
2.) 05 Feb 2015 04:52:01
kane was scratched for showing up late and not following dress code. good on maurice for taking a stand tbh. anyways, he won't be traded because of that.
3.) @thejazz97 Hoffman is more valueable than Kane right now. He's playing right now, not causing team issues, and not to mention putting up the same if not better stats. hmm also Hoffman has and affordable contract. Not to mention he is +18 on a terrible team. Good try
4.) 05 Feb 2015 05:19:01
@shankar he's been having problems for the past few years. And he really doesn't want to be there. Winnipeg is wasting money on him and could use that cap space elsewhere. I think Kane needs a change of scenary and Ottawa could use him.
5.) @sensfan IMO kane doesn't want out of winnipeg he's just sick of the media complaining about everything he does in his free time yes he's had problems but it appears like he's finally playing in the role were putting him and he's been winnipeg best player since the all star break don't see him moving but if it improves the team Chevy will trade him if nit it won't happen
6.) Its hard to put high value on Kane, who has been scratched a lot the last 2 years. I think he would only fetch a prospect and a 2nd pick ESPECIALLY since he SEEMS to be "problem child" and has a high contract
Chiassion, Neil, and TWO 2nds is way too high. Neil himself could fetch Ottawa a 2nd pick.
People are putting high value on Kane for ONE 30 goal season and his potential. Its just not there if you look at the player fairly (pros and cons)
7.) First of all, I don't know if I would call twice in 2 years alot. second in 222 games as a Jet he has 153 points, mostly with bad linemates and 2nd PP unit. The kid plays in every situation, yes PK, usually amoungst the highest hits in the league. Kane is 23 y/o, and Chevy WILL NOT sell low. players Mature, and that is what is happening here and you can see it in his game, more passing, more back-checking and always sticks up for his teammates. IMO, a lot of teams would give better than this, and Kane may very well excel on another team where he can get a lot more minutes, so you will not get him at a discount!
8.) He has been scratched 2x in the last calendar year - and more than that in 2 seasons
He has 109 goals, which in 6 seasons works out to average of 18 per season. And a 37 point per season guy on Average. Imagine what he would look like WITHOUT that one 30 goal campaign??
I'm not saying he's trash or wouldn't want him, I'm saying you are overvaluing based on 1 above average season and his POTENTIAL, ignoring he costs 5. 25 mil per season for a bad attitude.
In the trade market, I'd akin him to the deal Murray got Turris with. A top prospect and a 3rd.
9.) Turris was also holding out and not reporting to the team. If that's the asking price, we simply keep him, the end, but IMHO he would attract more from other teams. Just because the 2 LW on our team are producing more does not make him a 3rd line winger. Trouba is playing 3rd pairing RD right now, would he be valued as a bottom pairing Defenceman?
10.) I never said kane's situation was akin to Turris - I said his trade value would be the same as Turris at that time. Turris was not playing in the NHL and everyone knew he was an NHL player - and was a RFA. Kane has scored 30 goals in the NHL - but is a salty player and is also carrying a 5 mil / year contract.
Pros and cons to both players, and in the end works out to be about the same imo
If WPG want the world for him, let them keep him. I don't think ottawa is willing to forfeit their farm for 1 guy. and I'm not sure other teams will either.
11.) Wanna know what happened to the last "problem child" that got traded? Tied for 2nd in the league for points. If Kane got traded and was given top line minutes with a good center he could become a deadly goal scorer. Like Shankar said he was scratched for breaking team protocol. All it showed is that everyone no matter who you are is not above the rules on the Jets. I tip my hat to Maurice!
12.) 05 Feb 2015 23:37:18
@juice61 even on a gorgeous Sunday morning Chris Neil is worth a 5th round pick. 35 year old tough guy who can't even hold his own anymore and gets paid 2 million bucks to rack up stupid penalties. Sorry meat
13.) @SemiDecent sorry buddy but that's the asking price from teams like Chicago, Nashville etc - and they'll pay it since it'll be a later pick.
30 Jun 2014 23:55:12
Bryan Murray has said he wants to get 2 left wingers and a center if Spezza is traded so I want to see something like this.
To Dal:
Jason Spezza (25% retained)
Colin Greening
To Ott:
Alex Chiasson
Brett Richie
1st 2015
Spezza gives Dallas in an incredible 1-2 punch at center in a very tough conference and Greening gives them some more depth with some size and speed. Chiasson is a good young winger which Ottawa needs and Richie is a good prospect, and with this Dallas team they should make the playoffs.
To Ott:
5th 2015
To anyone:
Mark Borowiecki
Borowiecki can give a team a young 6/7 d man who needs one and Ottawa gets the 5th back they lost in the Hemsky deal, also opens up a roster spot.
Free agent signings
Grabovski 2yr/6.5 million
Jokinen 3yr/10 million
Pouliot 4yr/6 milllion
Ehrhoff 4yr/22 million
Grabovski can come in for 2 years and play behind Turris, depending on his production we can resign him and if not Zibanejad will be ready by then. Jokinen is still a decent top 6 winger that we can get cheap and helps in the shootout which Ottawa will need after losing Hemsky, Michalek and Spezza. Pouliot is a good depth guy that is from the area. Ehrhoff will elevate our defence and give the Senators one of the best top pairings in the league.
Lines:
MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Jokinen-Grabovski-Chiasson
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Stone
Pouliot-Smith-Condra
Neil as an extra
Ehrhoff-Karlsson
Methot-Wiercioch
Cowen-Ceci
Phillips and Gryba as extras
Anderson
Lehner
1.) 01 Jul 2014 15:35:18
Um, Bryan Murray never said that. Ever. Not even once. Not even close to once. He's never even mentioned exactly what positions he's looking to fill
2.) Http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console go to 6:07. Bryan Murray is asked what about July 1st and he says exactly what I wrote. He wants 4 forwards not including Spezza, so he wants 2 LW's and a center if spezza was to be traded. So yes, Murray did say this, very close to this, actually almost identical.
23 Jun 2014 23:31:43
I'd like to see the Sens do something like this at the draft and at free agency
I know St. Louis is the front runner for Spezza but I want to see something like this
To Ana: Spezza and Cowen
To Ott: Smith-Pelley, Sbisa, Ana 1st 2014
Draft: Julius Honka at 24, if unavailable take Roland McKeown. Take Markus Pettersson at 40.
Free Agency:
Let Michalek walk
Grabovski 3yr 9mil
Kulemin 3yr 9mil
Stralman 2yr 5 mil
Lines:
MacArthur Turris Ryan
Kulimen Grabovski Stone
Hoffman Zibanejad Smith-Pelley
Greening Smith Condra
Neil as an extra
Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Stralman
Sbisa-Ceci
Gryba and Philips as extras
Anderson
Lehner
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11 Feb 2015 21:59:21
Some moves for the Senators
At the deadline:
To Nashville
Chris Neil
Ottawa's 2015 4th
To Ottawa
Nashville's 2015 2nd
That's a late second and the 4th from ottawa evens out the value.
Then at the draft (assuming Ottawa doesn't pick 1-2)
To Ottawa
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Zybnek Michalek's rights
To Arizona
Ottawa's 2015 1st
Robin Lehner
Mark Stone
Dallas 2015 2nd
Eric Gryba or Mark Borowiceki
Ottawa get's immediate help on D. Arizona gets a potential future goalie in lehner, a pick between 4-8, a good young player in stone, an early-mid 2nd and some depth with gryba or Borowiecki. Then arizona can draft their future #1 center (Marner or Strome) and a future top Dman (Hanifin, Werenski, Kylington)
Ottawa then trades their 2 2nds to move back into the first round (27-30) and take Mackenzie Blackwood to replace Lehner as the future goalie.
11 Feb 2015 01:25:18
A few trades for Ottawa throughout the rest of the season.
At the deadline
To Nashville:
Chris Neil
Ottawa's 2015 4th
To Ottawa:
Nashville's 2015 2nd
Everyone will say Neil isn't worth a 2 but Nashville's will be very late and if other teams are interested then I think Nashville will give it up. I think the 4th helps complete the deal.
Let's assume Ottawa picks between 4-8 and doesn't win the lottery
At the draft
To Ottawa:
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Zybnek Michalek's rights
To Arizona:
Ottawa's 1st 2015
Dallas 2nd 2015
Robin Lehner
Mark Stone
Eric Gryba or Marc Borowiecki
Ottawa gains a huge improvement on defense which has been their biggest issue. Arizona then drafts a Dman (Hanifin/Kylington/Werenski) and Center (Marner/Strome). Arizona gets Gryba or Borowiecki as depth, a solid young player in stone. A potential starting goalie in Lehner and a early-mid 2nd.
Ottawa then trades their two 2nd round picks to move up to 27-30 and then they select Mackzenie Blackwood from Barrie to replace Lehner as the future goalie and they sign a backup in the off season.
1.) Really like this actually
2.) I don't think there's any chance Neil gets a 2nd even with a 4th added to him
19 Jun 2016 22:37:25
They wouldn't have to pay datsyuk. They just terminate the contract and then they only have the 7.5 million against the cap.
18 Jun 2015 22:33:15
I feel if you trade for a guy with a 5 mil cap hit you should probably put him in the line up
18 Jun 2015 13:12:37
No way they move Zibanejad. I'd move Hoffman+ for O'Reilly and have him or Zibanejad move to the wing. But about Lehner, how is Murray asking for a stupid ask price? They traded Bishop, who had less experience than Lehner at the time and is 3 years older than Lehner, for Conacher who at the time was considered for the Calder and was considered a potential top 6 forward and a 4th. That didn't pan out as expected so why is it so outrageous that Murray wants to make sure he gets a good return.
29 Apr 2015 23:01:02
@Draisaitl I don't know enough about Phoenix's d core so I just figured after moving Yandle and Michalek that Cowen could fit somewhere and at least get a fresh start.
@JF I agree you have to offer a lot to get someone to not match it but Boston is tight to the cap with lots of contracts and they have to sign other guys and they probably want Soderberg back.
@Seabass you are talking about Spooner like he's Krecji. He had a solid end of the season but who knows if he can keep that pace up for 82 games. Chiasson had a down season but he really doesn't fit with Ottawa's style. I think he'd be a better player in Boston. I'd do Chiasson for Spooner straight up to be honest.
15 Apr 2015 03:24:16
What exactly does Weber and Doughty do better than Karlsson? They don't make risky plays? Is that what's makes them so elite? Cause that's all they do that Karlsson doesn't.
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