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13 Dec 2018 16:36:27
To Cgy:
- Jayden Schwartz
-3rd round pick

To Stl:
- Jon Gillies
-T. J. brodie

Rationale:
Stl gets a top pairing dman to cushion to blow if Pietrangelo goes somewhere else. They also get a backup option who has big potential - Allen isn't cutting it.

Cgy gets a second line Rwer to complete their top 6, and with a 3rd they can restock the cupboard a bit in a deep draft.

I think Cgy gives up more value here (#3 dman>top 6 fwd) but Schwartz can really help Cgy score more.

Gaudreau- Monahan- Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Schwartz
Mangiapane- Ryan-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Hathaway

Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Stone/ Kylington.

04 Dec 2018 15:25:46
Flames: Valimaki

Clb:Bobrovski

Does Clb consider?

04 Dec 2018 16:23:39
Short answer: No.
Long answer: No.

05 Dec 2018 00:25:11
Valimaki is a highly touted prospect.

05 Dec 2018 01:58:15
Just bobrovski playoff history doesn't seem like the answer for the flames, probably wait and see if smith can get his game back by trade deadline.

05 Dec 2018 04:08:37
CLB would be dumb not to. Bob is walking regardless. Vali is not just a solid prospect anymore, he’s a proven NHL’r already at 19.
But CGY wouldn’t trade Vali for a rental.

05 Dec 2018 05:51:59
CLB is also doing very well this year and sees themselves as contenders. Bobrovsky alone can bring them to cup finals and give them a shot at winning. Valimaki cannot.

05 Dec 2018 20:33:30
SC4CGY Valimaki hasn't played enough games in the nhl yet to not be considered a prospect. I think its 30 games u have to play? 26? Can somebody help me out with that. Valimaki has played 22. I'm pretty sure he's still a prospect no?

06 Dec 2018 05:15:03
LWOH defines a prospect as a player under 25 years of age and with less than 50 games played. Like everything else, it’s debateable, but that is a pretty good definition as far as I’m concerned.

04 Dec 2018 00:38:08
Flames Trade For.

To Flames From:
Columbus BlueJackets-
(G) Sergei Bobrovsky.

To Bluejackets From
Calgary Flames-
(C) Curtis Lazar.
(LW) Ryan Lomberg.
(G) Mason MacDonald.

Flames Goalie Lineup for Season/ Playoffs-

(#1)Bobrovsky.
(#2) Rittich or Smith,
Depending on who stays the better more reliable goalie.

Solves Flames only problem "Goalie"
Now we can win the Cup.

Mike Smiths Contract is up at the end of year and they let him go.

Resign Bobrovsky.
Resign rittich.

04 Dec 2018 07:13:04
I am a flames fan, but bobrovsky as UFA, is worth more than that. Also how would he resign, calgary needs to sign Tkachuk.

04 Dec 2018 12:21:21
Lol. That's a terrible one sided offer for goalie Bob. Even tho he's a UFA. You don't need to have 420 in your name to know you smoke weed.

03 Dec 2018 12:52:40
Calgary Trades
Neal

Toronto Trades
CBrown
Ennis

It hasn't really worked out for Neal in Calgary and the Leafs adding a Power Forward like Neal would be what they need to balance all the skill they have.

Thoughts ?

03 Dec 2018 13:54:13
Neal might be more physical than other leafs forwards but he’s 33 on a 5 year contract and hasn’t looked good. If it was an expiring deal, you take that chance and put him with Matthews and Nylander or something. But not when he hasn’t looked good and has 4 years left taking him till 37 or 38.

03 Dec 2018 16:16:30
Neal did just have his best game as a flame so maybe he's getting settled now.

27 Nov 2018 10:51:28
Calgary Flames:
• (C) Mark Jankowski (1,675,000 x 2YR)
• (C) Dillon Dubé (778,333 x 3YR)
• (G) Tyler Parsons (759,167 x 2YR)
• (2019) First Round Pick
St Louis Blues:
• (RW) Vladimir Tarasenko (7,500,000 x 5YR)

Calgary Flames:
• (LHD) TJ Brodie (4,650,400 x 2YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (unsigned gaudreau comparable contract)

Calgary Flames:
• (RW) Michael Frolík (4,300,000 x 2YR)
Arizona Coyotes:
• (2019) Fourth Round Pick

Calgary Flames:
• (RHD) Michael Stone (3,500,000 x 2YR)
Ottawa Senators:
• (2019) Third Round Pick


Calgary Flames Projected Lines:

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - William Nylander - Elias Lindholm
Sam Bennett - Mikael Backlund - James Neal
Austin Czarnik - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson
Juuso Välimäki - Oliver Kylington

27 Nov 2018 15:21:08
So 3 sheet pieces of poo and a 1st for tarasenko.

That's a solid no try your first and ktchuck+.

27 Nov 2018 17:08:41
An aging LHD with only two years left on his contract for eight years of Nylander? Not sure if I’m seeing the value there.

27 Nov 2018 20:00:36
Gardiner>>Brodie.

27 Nov 2018 21:04:00
Takchuk alone would be too much for Tarasenko based on age and the fact that Tarasenko is a little overpaid for a 60 point player.

28 Nov 2018 01:08:24
40 goal scorer. Lol your a joke.

28 Nov 2018 12:42:23
Why would nylander sign for a couple mil less in Calgary then he's asking from Toronto? Holy snikies some people over rate what nylander will get in return on this site.

26 Nov 2018 23:14:53
Calgary Flames:
• (LHD) TJ Brodie (4,650,400 x 2YR)
• (C) Mark Jankowski (1,675,000 x 2YR)
• (2019) Seventh Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (unsigned gaudreau comparable contract)

Arizona Coyotes:
• (RHD) Jason Demers (3,937,000 x 3YR)
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (LW) Josh Leivo (925,000 x 1YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick

Edmonton Oilers:
• (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi (925,000 x 1YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (LHD) Jake Gardiner (4,050,000 x 1YR)


Projected Lines -

Zach Hyman - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - Kasperi Kapanen
Andreas Johnsson - Nazem Kadri - Jesse Puljujärvi
Tyler Ennis - Mark Jankowski - Connor Brown

Morgan Rielly - Jason Demers
TJ Brodie - Ron Hainsey
Travis Dermott - Martin Marincin

27 Nov 2018 04:59:12
Pool and a 2nd for gradiner ufa 😂😂.

27 Nov 2018 10:08:53
1) that package wouldn't get you puljujarvi
2) you have brodie on 2nd line and demers with reilly?
3) i'd think that package toronto would want at very least a 3rd in that nylander deal not a 7th.

27 Nov 2018 10:56:48
Demers is done for the season. Maybe even his career. Lol. That one is a for sure no way.

Gardiner is worth more than a bust + 2nd. Can Edmonton even afford this trade?

The Calgary trade has the most chops to it, though I personally feel Leafs Gould be targeting younger players rather than 28 year old Brodie with only 2 years left on his contract before UFA. Valimaki or Andersson maybe?

27 Nov 2018 10:57:28
Demers done for the season. Knee blown. May not be back for a long while.

Gardiner is worth more than a bust + 2nd (hard to believe sometimes, I know)

Brodie is 28 and 2 years until UFA. Leafs need someone younger with contract similar in terms to Nylander. Valimaki or Andersson maybe?

27 Nov 2018 12:31:32
Would not trade Gardiner for a huge question mark and a pick could really use him come playoff time.

27 Nov 2018 13:29:14
Question mark is fair but bust is so not true. I’d say he’s just not being developed properly, big surprise there. He’s 20 and probably should’ve been in the AHL for most if not all of his career up to this point. His first stint in the AHL points wise wasn’t the greatest but he was on a bad team and people said he was creating a lot. His last one was only 4 games yes but he had 4 points. Let him be a point a game in the AHL and see what he is next season before calling him a bust, would be my suggestion.

27 Nov 2018 15:31:27
@ebs. Completely agree. He’s such a big guy with skill, he’s just not an NHL player yet and that’s okay. But he’s being mismanaged. As leaf fans we had little to cheer for and wanted Nylander on the big club and management said he wouldn’t come up until he has a chance to dominate in the AHL. He did and was better for it. Should be a similar approach with puli.

27 Nov 2018 15:59:09
With North American kids like marner etc leafs option was to have him in the leafs or send him back to junior again, that didn’t make sense. With these European guys, you’re given such an advantage to be allowed to have them in the AHL at 18 and 19. Why not use that? They’re learning a new game, a new rink size, a new culture, often times a new language. Use every tool you have to allow them to succeed and slower hockey and a bit weaker competition is one of them to start.

27 Nov 2018 18:35:37
Agreed Jim, it seems so obvious. Why play him 5-10 minutes a night on the 3rd or 4th line when he can go succeed in the A?

27 Nov 2018 20:04:15
Oilers are very good at screwing up developing their drafts. It’s just not possible to draft so many busts like that. They rushed virtually every one of their top picks the last ten years, and look how many succeeded. Not nearly as many should have. And the ones that did actually do anything in NHL have underperformed. I don’t think it’s coincidence that Hall had his breakout year after finally being traded.

27 Nov 2018 20:11:30
Yeah. He could be first line, be the first shot option on the PP, learn to play both sides of the puck and gain a ton of confidence. Then drop him on Mcdavids line late this season or to start next year.

27 Nov 2018 21:31:29
@LeafsGM, Bouchard- sent back to juniors.
Yamamoto- finished junior and now in the AHL.
Puljujarvi- made mistakes in his development IMO but not too late.
McDavid- not underperforming.

Draisaitl- went back to junior and now he’s doing just fine. Nurse- finished his junior and maybe slightly underperforming but he’s also a D and it’s expected. Yakupov- totally blew it and even though he has zero IQ he could’ve had a good career riding shotgun with McDavid IMO.

RNH- not the high point getting 1st overall but a good player. He was too good to go back to junior.
Hall- had an 80 point season in Edmonton and was also to good for junior. How many 1st overalls go back to junior?

27 Nov 2018 22:38:01
Calling puli a bust is funny though. He’s a 4th overall from 2016. Some of the same guys I’ve seen call him a bust on this site were also commenting that Chicago did well getting strome. He was a higher pick a year earlier than puli. Saying he’s not where you thought he would be, fair. Saying bust is laughable for a 20 year old kid.

27 Nov 2018 23:04:08
Call it what you want to call it. He’s not living up to the expectation that warranted such a high draft selection, playing with some of the world’s best players. He might still come along, but at this point he’s looking more like a Crouse and either Strome than a Marner or Nylander. The same guys saying Puljujärvi isn’t a bust are the same guys who say Crouse is. Imo they are all looking like a bust to me and would not bring anywhere close to a 1st in return. How much would you be willing to give up for any of those guys?

@yupp

Klefbom sucks. Nurse will never be more than 2LHD similar to Zadorov. Yakopov was a spectacular bust. Paajarvi sucks. Gagner sucks. Petry doing ok now but sucked for a long time. Puljujärvi sucks and looking like he’s a bust. Yamamoto is so small I have a hard time seeing him doing much at NHL level. Bouchard is way too early to say.

28 Nov 2018 00:58:21
Yupp isn’t on this. I think you mean ebs.

28 Nov 2018 05:11:51
Oops. Sorry Yupp. Lol.

24 Nov 2018 10:24:38
I've already checked if this would work cap wise and it would. This would be a stanley cup winning team imo.

To CGY
• (RW) Vladimir Tarasenko
To STL
• (C) Dillon Dube
• (LHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (C) Mikael Backlund

To CGY
• (C) William Nylander
To TOR
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (RW) Michael Frolik (50% Retained Salary)
• (LHD) TJ Brodie

To CGY
• (LHD) Jordie Benn
To MTL
• (C) Mark Jankowski


Projected Lines:

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - William Nylander - Elias Lindholm
Austin Czarnik - Sam Bennett - James Neal
Curtis Lazar - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson
Jordie Benn - Michael Stone.

24 Nov 2018 10:42:25
Not enough for leafs, especially after rumors last night he’s willing to sign for under 7.

24 Nov 2018 12:14:21
Janko is worth a lot more then Jordie Benn.

24 Nov 2018 14:51:16
Tarasenko is not available.

24 Nov 2018 14:56:06
Hahaha, a team retains salary in a trade for nylander? And a 1st and Brodie? Not likely, and mtl one doesn't look to good for flames either, why trade a good young forward for a guy that would be watching from the booth most nights?

24 Nov 2018 16:31:44
Of course.

01 Dec 2018 20:14:40
This would ruin the flames, they would lose tkachuck and never be able to get a real goalie.

24 Nov 2018 04:26:32
My last post cut off

CGY -
• (RHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (C) Mikael Backlund
• (C) Dillon Dube
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
STL -
• (RW) Vladimir Tarasenko

24 Nov 2018 10:28:49
If I'm St Louis I consider.

24 Nov 2018 14:55:14
Why?
How bout

Johnny hockey
For
Steen, barbashev

I would do it if I was calgary.

24 Nov 2018 22:27:25
Cuz Tarasenko has been in a slump for the last 2 years and that contract is brutal.

24 Nov 2018 04:25:14
Without touching Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk.


CGY -
• (LHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (C) Mikael Backlund
• (

23 Nov 2018 12:07:59
CGY-
(C) Mikael Backlund
(D) Rasmus Andersson
TOR-
(C) William Nylander
MTL-
(2019) 1st-Round Pick
(D) Jordie Benn


BREAKDOWN:

MTL- Mikael Backlund
CGY- William Nylander
TOR- Rasmus Andersson, Jordie Benn & 1st-Round Pick

23 Nov 2018 13:09:36
Leafs giving up the best player out of that trade but gets the worst return?

23 Nov 2018 19:45:14
Everyone gets hosed except calgary. That 1st round pick shouldn't be traded by the habs just yet.

23 Nov 2018 23:46:31
Depends what Nylander signs at.

23 Nov 2018 23:47:43
Andersson and 1st are good choices, but the roster player needs to be better imo. Benn just doesn’t cut it. Either we get A-prospect and depth player, or B-prospect and quality player. Andersson is B-prospect and Benn is depth player. One of the two needs to be better. Just my two cents worth.

23 Nov 2018 00:14:14
2 trades that i'd love to see

Calgary Flames:
• (C) Mark Jankowski
• (LHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (2019) First Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (match contracts with Gaudreau)

Calgary Flames:
• (RHD) Michael Stone (25% Salary Retained)
Pittsburgh Penguins:
• (C) Dominik Simon

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - William Nylander - Sam Bennett
Dominik Simon - Mikael Backlund - James Neal
Michael Frolik - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
TJ Brodie - Rasmus Andersson
Noah Hanifin - Dalton Prout.

23 Nov 2018 01:35:20
You posted the first one yesterday. I don’t know a lot about either of those players but do you have any ideas that give the leafs Bennett or do you not want to part with him?

23 Nov 2018 02:55:43
Minor problem with the second trade, stone is out long term with a blood clot.

23 Nov 2018 05:12:18
That Calgary trade is a winner. Using Schenn, Kessel (twice), and O’Reilly trades as precedent, Nylander is worth 2x1st + roster player. And that is pretty much exactly what you have offered here. Jankowski hasn’t done much on Flames. Could maybe turn it around with Toronto. Välimäki is very highly rated prospect and likely make Leafs team full time next year. And the 1st is what it is.

I like this trade. If Leafs could get a return like that for greedy Needylander, would be more than acceptable.

23 Nov 2018 08:31:22
LeafsGM and Leafs17 i like your responses thank you

23 Nov 2018 13:09:15
I’d ask to include Bennet over Jankowski.

21 Nov 2018 23:15:55
Calgary Flames - (C) Mark Jankowski + (D) Juuso Välimäki + (2019) First-Round Pick

Toronto Maple Leafs - (C) William Nylander (verbal agreement to resign with flames)



Projected Line-Up (CGY):

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - William Nylander
Michael Frolik - Mikael Backlund - James Neal
Dillon Dube - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
TJ Brodie - Rasmus Andersson
Noah Hanifin - Michael Stone

David Rittich
Mike Smith

22 Nov 2018 00:11:40
Without saying if value is there. What would Calgary then sign Nylander at? What can they afford right now?

22 Nov 2018 02:56:46
Matching contracts with Gaudreau would sound like a good idea.

22 Nov 2018 04:03:01
@franchisebilly, I believe if he was willing to take $6.75 mill it would have been done in Toronto or will get done.

22 Nov 2018 04:13:02
Hes from calgary, his dad played for calgary. So i'm kinda aiming for a hometown discount

22 Nov 2018 22:22:11
He’s not from Calargry he’s from Sweden. He left Calargry when he was like 2 doubt he’d want to play there.

21 Nov 2018 13:46:56
Calgary trades
Johnny Gaudreau
T.J. Brodie
2020 1st round pick

Toronto trades
Jake Gardiner
William Nylander
2019 2nd round pick.

21 Nov 2018 13:50:52
I hope you’re a leaf fan, not a flames fan. If you’re a flames fan, thank you, nice doing business with you!

21 Nov 2018 14:21:20
That would be a no thank you from Calgary.

21 Nov 2018 15:17:24
Calgary trades the better winger, better pick, And maybe the better D man (contract into consideration)?

21 Nov 2018 15:26:08
Flames have no interest in trading Gaudreau.
Maube a deal involving Bennett and Brodie for Nylander, however, I don't see the need for Brodie on the Leafs, they need the gritty Manson type. Bennett could add some grit to the forwards , but I think Leafs will just let Nylander sit.

21 Nov 2018 16:03:54
I have noticed that there seems to be a general consensus that no body wants nyolander as a hold out for a year nor do they want him for 8mil a season. Also an 8mil a season nylander has less value then a 6 mil a season nylander. I know leaffans know this but they seem to ignore it.

21 Nov 2018 16:25:08
@Sosa, I would be interested in Bennet as part of a deal for Nylander for sure. Maybe Bennett and a young controllable D? Andsersen or valimaki?

21 Nov 2018 16:59:16
That may do it Jim, however I think the biggest issue for everyone involved is Nylanders demands. so I agree with what Colt is stating.
However, with Toronto's abundance of gifted forwards, it does hide the fact there isn't a lot of grit. guys like Hyman, Kadri, probably have enough to get these guys by. it's the D I feel they should trade Nylander for. the Leafs have a really good chance to have a very complete team, so I'd use Nylander to get that gritty Dman. but. it all goes back to, who wants to trade for him if he is going to be firm on a deal that he doesn't deserve. Yet.

21 Nov 2018 19:51:28
Well said colt and Sosa.

20 Nov 2018 13:43:48
Tor nylander
Flames bennett + rhd

20 Nov 2018 14:35:11
Not even close.

20 Nov 2018 16:50:51
Saying RHD is pretty openended for us to judge that lol not every RHD has equal value.

20 Nov 2018 04:08:12
Straight up trade

CGY: Bennett
WPG: Perreault

Flames get a player that can play on any line or in any role. Jets get a player that bring a little grit that they're lacking up front.

20 Nov 2018 04:29:36
I can't see any reason for either team to do this. Perreault is too important to the Jets bottom 6.

20 Nov 2018 06:36:01
Lol no from Calgary.

20 Nov 2018 09:29:12
C’mon Joe. Bennett can do everything Perrault can do and more. He hits, fights and is 8 years younger. One guy just happens to play for the Winnipeg Untouchables.

20 Nov 2018 13:01:51
Lol. Calgary def values Bennet more.

20 Nov 2018 13:27:04
No from jets? Lol.

20 Nov 2018 14:01:08
Leafs17, right Bennett is pretty good and Calgary would want more, but for the Jets, Bennett isn't good enough to warrant the extra pieces Calgary would want.

So, unless Calgary would take Perreault and a couple throw away prospects for Bennett, it isn't worth trying to get him.

20 Nov 2018 14:28:33
That’s not what you said Joe. You said Perrault is too important to the jets bottom 6. Your new reasoning makes sense but one for one the jets would be stupid to not take that.

20 Nov 2018 14:50:16
Leafs17, yes there is that too. Perreault is who Maurice uses to get players going. So, even though Bennett is a good player, he's not worth rocking the boat. Good teams don't make trades just for the sake of making a trade. Bennett isn't enough of a difference maker to risk upsetting the team chemistry over.

21 Nov 2018 10:51:56
100% guarantee if Winnioeg can get Bennet for Perreault straight up they take that and run 80 miles.

19 Nov 2018 21:41:39
Ok, I know this post may be a bit out there, but let's see what everyone thinks.

Toronto Matthew Tkachuk

Calgary William Nylander

Maybe Toronto adds

Tkachuk gets to play with Marner again and Toronto get some grit. Calgary gets a streaky goal scorer and setup man.

Both teams win as they trade outside of their conference.

And go.

19 Nov 2018 21:48:41
I think Calgary would say no. They love Tkuchuk there.

19 Nov 2018 21:52:13
i don't think calgary trades and elc for a guy who wants 8 million.

19 Nov 2018 22:04:21
I agree with yup, think Calgary values a gritty younger forward more than another sniper winger.

19 Nov 2018 23:19:40
Fair trade but Tkachuk is already their drafted player and has no contract disputes.

19 Nov 2018 23:20:19
If Nylander were toget traded to Calgary i wouldn't mind seeing Bennett come the other way. Love his game and I think there is untapped offense there. Toronto would have to get more but would love to see it.

My lines would be

Bennett Matthews Brown
Hyman Tavares Marner
Marleau Kadri Kapanen
Johnsson Lindholm Leivo.

19 Nov 2018 23:52:32
Don't think calgary would agree to this. Tkachuk is a solid compliment to the top-heavy offensive line of Gaudreau/ Monahan/ Lindholm, and can put up 60 points just as well as Nylander. and he has a snarl aspect to him.

Imagine Tkachuk and Kadri on the same team tho. Lmao, it would be so fun.

20 Nov 2018 00:18:40
Lol nylander has more value come on guys. He’s a possible 80-100’ point player. Bennett alone does not get you willy.

20 Nov 2018 02:59:12
Read the entire post McLarty. I daid Calgary would need to add more.

20 Nov 2018 06:34:15
Tkachuk is over a point a game this season. He might have better production over his career than Nylander. I don’t think Toronto would think twice while Calgary would never do it. Especially now they have Lindholm who has fit nice on that top line and Neal as right wingers.

20 Nov 2018 12:11:55
I’d do it for sure. He adds something we don’t have a lot of and already played with Matthews in the past. Nylander was also born in Calgary while his dad played there. But I don’t think flames would want to do it and certainly wouldn’t pay Nylander more than Johnny and monahan.

20 Nov 2018 12:12:23
Lmao fully signed tkechuck who's actually better than unsigned don't want to stay Nylander? Hahaha good one, Toronto clearly adds at least a 1st and a high end prospect maybe more. Nylander has next to no value right now and can be picked up a lot cheaper than that, just ask Hoffman.

20 Nov 2018 12:13:56
I like that base for a deal but toronto adds, a 1st round pick and/ or a prospect maybe? i like your points though. as others stated though i think calgary values the grit more. though if toronto added and this deal went through a gudreau/ monahan/ nylander combo would be interesting to watch.

20 Nov 2018 13:59:51
@rambo, Tkachuk is exactly “fully signed”. He’s an RFA in a few months looking for a huge raise too lol I agree the leafs add, I said that right away but you make it sound like tkachuk has a 5 year deal at good money. He could be in the exact situation Nylander is in a few months.

20 Nov 2018 14:39:18
Rambo setting himself up for failure and embarrassment again.

If Nylander gets traded (and if he does, it will be for way more than what Hoffman returned) are you going to bury your head in the sand for four months like you did after the Karlsson trade?

20 Nov 2018 16:24:00
Unsportsmanlike, how do you figure he gets more than Hoffman? I mean maybe a slight bit but not enough to be anything big.

Hoffman had the karlsson situation working against him which is easily countered by Nylander greed and no sense of loyalty or want to do a bridge deal.

Nylander remains unsigned and is likely to bolt for Europe while Hoffman still had a few years left on a favourable contract worth under 5 million.

They are virtually doing the same thing for their teams just Nylander had Matthews to feed off of, take that away and Hoffman has edge.

Only thing Nylander has over Hoffman is his age.

Unless a mirical happens you'll be disappointed this time but that don't suprise me seeing how you people have always undervalued sens players and overvalued their counterparts on different teams. I forgot that on this site you actually have to down play skill and talent when it's wearing a sens Uniform right?

20 Nov 2018 17:51:50
Yeuuuup it's that old anti-Sens conspiracy on this site. That's totally it. Has nothing to do with you being out to lunch when it comes to making assessments.

Do you not ever stop to put two and two together, that maybe we are not undervaluing Sens players, as both Karlsson and Hoffman ended up being traded for packages that were more or less in-line with what we, the "people who have always undervalued sens players" on this site were saying they would be traded for, and nowhere near your comically lofty and unrealistic expectations?

No. Of course you don't.

The Sens hands were tied with Hoffman. It had nothing to do with talent (which Hoffman had/ has plenty of) . That's why he was traded for peanuts (something pretty much everyone on this site saw coming, excluding you) . The Leafs don't have to trade Nylander. They can afford to let him sit for the season. Ideal? Certainly not. But far better than Dubas caving and overpaying him or trading him for peanuts (especially for a team that's 1 point out of first even without their best player) .

I'm not waiting for a "mirical" trade because I could care less. He'll probably end up signing a bridge deal at the last minute anyways. But every proposed trade from any respected writer in the hockey universe looks a lot better than what Hoffman returned, for logical reasons. You should read more (or at least some) .

21 Nov 2018 04:26:59
You do realize that Hoffman situation and Nylander contract status or lack thereof virtually cancel each other out right?

Leafs can't afford to sit on him either like you seem to think, NHL teams are not the only threat the Leafs need to worry about. He could very easily sign with another league and they would be able to do exactly nothing about it. So yeah Leafs hands are just as tied as sens were wheather you're smart enough to see it or not.

So yeah it's pretty obvious in all of your posts that you're biased against Ottawa and can't make a fair assessment of trade value.

21 Nov 2018 18:31:35
No, they "virtually" don't. Hoffman needed to go. Nylander does not. Nylander has not created any bad blood in the dressing room and is liked by his team mates.

As I explained in a response to your earlier nonsensical ramblings on this topic, while Nylander is free to sign in Europe he would be taking a significant pay cut in doing so versus what the Leafs are offering him.

Radulov was the highest paid player in KHL history. He made $5.75 mln a year. Kovalchuk made $4.4 mln a year. KHL GM's have since reigned in spending.

NHL teams are welcome to sign Nylander to an offer sheet. But for the money he is looking for, it is going to cost them four first round picks. Dubas likely accepts that with a smile on his face.

So it's pretty obvious that you can't make a fair assessment of reality. Maybe you're biased against facts.

School's out kiddo.

18 Nov 2018 23:50:42
Nylander for Bennett, Stone & 1st?
Calgary adds a top 6 forward and I don't think they have a need for Stone or his contract. Toronto gets some much needed grit who is also the same age as Nylander, a decent RD and a mid to late 1st probably. Calgary definitely gets the best player in the deal and rid themselves of Stone's contract but I think it also helps the leafs salary wise. Stone could be ok for a couple years until Liljegren or Sandin are ready. I know there are a lot of different views about Bennett on this site but I like the way he plays and I think he still has more potential.

Leafs also pick up Luke Schenn just because I love the guy and I don't want to see Marincin ever again.

18 Nov 2018 20:25:34
Calgary - (2019) Third Round Pick
Vegas - Ryan Reaves

Calgary - Michael Stone & Curtis Lazar
Pittsburgh - Jamie Oleksiak

Calgary gets bigger and stronger

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Dube - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Reaves

Giordano - Hamonic
Hanifin - Brodie
Välimäki - Oleksiak

18 Nov 2018 23:35:17
Gotta love the size of Oleksiak. Pittsburgh only paid a 3rd to acquire him, so they would be coming out ahead. Not sure if they would be wanting to make this trade. I think they’re pretty happy with the skating bear. They did sign him three more years after all.

Oleksiak beside Valimaki could be a nice line.

09 Nov 2018 17:33:30
The Pittsburgh Penguins send (RW) Daniel Sprong & (2019) 1st-Round Pick to The Las Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for (D) Shea Theodore.

The Pittsburgh Penguins send (2019) 3rd-Round Pick & (D) Jamie Oleksiak to The Calgary Flames in exchange for (RW) Michael Frolik & (D) Michael Stone.


Guentzel - Crosby - Hornqvist
Hagelin - Malkin - Kessel
Simon - Brassard - Frolik
Sheahan - Cullen - Rust

Theodore - Letang
Dumoulin - Johnson
Maatta - Stone

09 Nov 2018 04:14:23
Canucks stecher sven 2 rd pick palmu

Tor nylander

Canucks sutter 3 rd pick

Flames bennet stone

Granlund horvat nylander
Goldobin petterson boeser
Erikson bennet virtanen
Roussel schaller motte

09 Nov 2018 22:25:08
Lmao yup.

 
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