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26 Apr 2018 19:01:48
Calgary : Dougie Hamilton

Toronto : Garret Sparks, Kasperi Kapanen, Travis Dermott, 1st 2018

26 Apr 2018 18:23:03
Tor: Gardiner, Nylander

Cgy: Brodie, Bennett

Then

Tor: Dermott, 3rd

Van: tanev

Reilly tanev
Brodie Zaitsev
Polak Hainsey

Toronto needs D

26 Apr 2018 19:01:42
Easy no from leafs.

26 Apr 2018 17:33:05
Lots of fits for cgy and tor to make a deal, here are some options, and i'm not saying these teams would make these trades, i'm just examining value:

Cgy: trades stone
Tor: trades johnsson

Cgy: trades brodie + lazar
Tor: trades brown + kapanen

Cgy: trades brodie + stone
Tor: 1 of nylander or marner

Cgy: trades giordano
Tor: trades 1 of marner or nylander

Cgy: trades hamilton
Tor: trades 1 of marner or nylander + kapanen

26 Apr 2018 18:14:55
Calgary fan lollll.

26 Apr 2018 07:41:58
CGY: Dougie Hamilton + Sam Bennett
OTT: Cody Ceci
TOR: Connor Brown + Travis Dermott + Mitch Marner

CGY: Mitch Marner
TOR: Dougie Hamilton + Cody Ceci
OTT: Connor Brown + Travis Dermott + Sam Bennett

Defence Top 6 Toronto

Morgan Rielly - Dougie Hamilton
Jake Gardiner - Cody Ceci
Roman Polak - Nikita Zaitsev

26 Apr 2018 08:41:21
Lmao. W. T. F. ? Cici worth Brown, Dermott and Bennett?

26 Apr 2018 10:57:14
Wouldn’t trade Dermotte straight up for either kids going to be special ( I hate Hamilton I’m sure others would tho. )

26 Apr 2018 14:12:06
Here go the ‘end of the world’ leaf trades lol the entire core is under 24 except Andersen (28) and they lose to the best team in the east (my opinion), so we have to trade marner, brown, dermott lol I’m sure there will be a cpl people wanting Matthews gone too because he only had 1 goal. They need to look for D help obviously but not at the expense of all their youth and skill. Find a cpl solid top 4’s or go all in on Drew doughty or OEL. Bottom line is the window is barely cracked open. Frustrating way to lose, but not panic time.

26 Apr 2018 18:56:37
How does Ceci fetch that much LOL, watch one Senators game and you'll realize how bad he is.

25 Apr 2018 15:21:12
This off-season is the time the Leafs finally get the defence man they need. Ron Hainsey playing 25+ mins a night shows they aren't yet a contender.

Flames: Michael Stone
Leafs: Bracco, 2nd 2019, 3rd 2018.

25 Apr 2018 16:38:02
Lol if you think Stone is the dman leafs need then yikes. But ya go ahead and make that dumb trade 😂.

25 Apr 2018 16:38:42
But all honesty come on that’s a steep price for a guy who was a UFA recently was he not? And he’s like 3rd paring still on Calgary?

25 Apr 2018 17:04:40
I think leafs should be going for a different and better shutdown dman, they have the assets for it.

25 Apr 2018 18:13:45
i think thrasher has the right idea but the 3rd might be too much, change it too a 4th and we got a deal ;)

25 Apr 2018 18:14:20
I’m a flames fan but c’mon. I doubt stone could get the 3rd alone.

25 Apr 2018 19:31:33
I agreed with what was said about needing a legit Dman, and hainsey has done a great job but is clearly slotted higher than he should be at this point in his career, but Stone is not the difference between being a contender and not! Lol.

25 Apr 2018 23:27:21
I agreed with evrything you said until I saw Michael Stone is the defensemen you have in mind. he's not terrible but a number 5-6 Dman is not the solution for the Leaf nor the defensmen they need.

26 Apr 2018 11:13:31
Why would tor want stone.

26 Apr 2018 14:46:18
Stone upgrades Roman Polak who is currently 6th, Connor Carrick who is currently 7th and maybe Ron Hainsey who is playing top pair by default. That still means it hasn’t upgraded Rielly, Gardiner, zaitsev or dermott who is the real top 4 of this team when the season ended last night. Upgrade a top 4, push everyone down and in doing that, you upgrade everyone behind them. But just Upgrading the bottom pair is not giving you a different outcome next season.

24 Apr 2018 23:14:45
Arizona has many top young prospects but needs on-ice results next season. A top pick in this year's draft will likely not help; they need to shift talent from the future to the present. They also have lots of cap space.

Philadelphia's core cannot win as it's currently constructed with another first round playoff exit and a shakeup, not a retool or rebuild is needed. Although the pipeline has lots of prospects, the Flyers need to replace their core.

Philadelphia: Fischer and Strome OR 2018 1st (Dahlin protected) and 2018 CGY 3rd
Arizona: Voracek, Morin

Strome has struggled and can use a change of scenery. It's 2018 and he's still not an NHL regular. Voracek would replace Fischer and double the points production from that position. If Arizona wants to go big in free agency, Philadelphia can take Bolland's contract.

Voracek ($8.25MM for 6 years) scored 85 points last year, tied for 13th in the league with Marchand and Barzal, 1 point ahead of Tavares, 1 behind Stamkos, and 2 behind Ovechkin. He doesn't have the value that those players have but he's not some pointless plug. There's no room for Morin on Philadelphia's blueline but there is on Arizona's. He's not waiver exempt next year so he will be on an NHL roster.

Let me repeat, Arizona needs to start winning hockey games and become relevant to their fans. Years of top picks have failed to do that. They have done this type of trade before (Stepan and Raanta for a 1st and DeAngelo) and need points this year, not next or over the course of a career.

24 Apr 2018 10:58:20
Trying to rework the flames, let me know what you think is accurate:

Cgy: trades brodie
Ott: trades hoffman

Cgy:trades stone
Tor: trades johnsson + 3rd rounder

Cgy: trades lazar and a 3rd rounder
Ana: trades kase

Gaudreau monahan hoffman
Tkachuk backlund frolik
Bennett jankiwski ferland/mangiapan
Johnsson kase mangiapane/ferland

Giordano hamilton
Kulak hamonic
Valimaki andersson

24 Apr 2018 13:07:10
-I think Ottawa would want younger players back if they were to trade Hoffman.
-Toronto laughs at you, they aren't reading Andreas Johnsson for that. They have developed him for a while and really like him.
-Anaheim says no.

24 Apr 2018 13:07:22
Leafs will keep Johnson no interest in Stone.

24 Apr 2018 16:23:35
So easy no from every team not Calgary.

24 Apr 2018 20:43:29
I know he doesn’t have a big name but that is such an easy no from Anaheim. Look up his stats, he should get around 50+ points next season.

24 Apr 2018 12:04:28
I personally value Brodie a couple notches over Hoffman because of position and the fact that Brodie is consistly a solid defensemen who acumulates points while Hoffman is very good but when he dosnt have the puck dosnt bring much else to the play. If he played a grinding styke as well i'd say it was a good trade but for his production ( around 50 points a year) you don't get a defensemen who gets alnost that himself ( more like 40 points) and also play a great solid all around game.

24 Apr 2018 05:54:33
to Calgary
Giroux

to Philadelphia
Bennett
3rd.

24 Apr 2018 06:43:34
Um wtf am i reading.

24 Apr 2018 06:46:47
You think Bennett and a 3rd will get you a guy who scored over 100 points last year and is a candidate for the Hart Trophy? Keep dreaming.

24 Apr 2018 07:34:27
Hahahahaha wow this trade works 100%.

24 Apr 2018 09:31:36
Great post. Well done. Fantastic!

24 Apr 2018 11:07:35
Yeah but he added a 3rd guys.

24 Apr 2018 13:07:55
3rd might be too much tho. Better make it a 5th. In 2021.

24 Apr 2018 14:38:47
Not another one of these guys.

24 Apr 2018 16:58:06
I don't even remember writing this. Give me what I deserve, yeesh.

22 Apr 2018 23:28:47
Edmonton Oilers:

- Sam Bennett


Calgary Flames:

- 2018 2nd


I think Calgary should call it quits on the Bennett project. They also have no picks in the first two rounds this year and could look to trade back in.

Sam Bennett could be Strome's replacement if Oilers don't want to bring him back.

23 Apr 2018 01:31:16
They won’t trade Bennett to Edmonton.

23 Apr 2018 02:27:31
he's 21 years old. some high level players take more time; see hasek, hoffman, burns. that would be a very short-sighted move that would also have payoff later than now, which is the opposite of what calgary is looking for right now.

23 Apr 2018 03:34:19
Very Interesting but can’t see Calgary giving up on him although I am also not very high on Bennett, but I think Calgary says no.

23 Apr 2018 18:53:12
If Calgary is to say adios to the Bennett project. I don't see them trading him inbthe same division. he's very young. and has big upside. whether he reaches that or not. I don't think Treliving wants to see it happen jus up the road in Edmonton.
Maybe my Habs could make a pitch.

21 Apr 2018 05:55:31
TJ Brodie + 4th 2019 for 1st 2018 (DAL) Top 10 Protected + Jason Robertson

Sam Bennett for 3rd 2018 + Stelio Mattheos

These trades give Dallas a top pairing d man that they need and Carolina a middle 6 center with potential that they've been looking for.

It has become quite obvious that one of Calgary's struggles has been scoring and based on the market and Calgary's current assets I believe the best thing for them to do is trade for prospects that have potential to make an impact next year. Both Mattheos and Robertson have shown great scoring ability in junior, have good size, and are RW. Robertson I believe could very possibly make the jump to the NHL next year and be a good player. His finishing around the net and high IQ could pair nicely with Gaudreau and Monahan.

21 Apr 2018 06:09:32
Here come the GM's underrating Brodie. Hate it, very underrated defencemen would love to have him on my team but the 2nd trade is off a bit.

21 Apr 2018 16:43:26
For the second trade would you say Bennett alone gets more or less?

19 Apr 2018 19:59:39
Arizona: Max Domi
Calgary: Sam Bennett

19 Apr 2018 23:14:35
Is said this last week lol but we agreed the cal has to add.

19 Apr 2018 15:05:30
Canadiens: Alex Galchenyuk + Brendan Gallagher
Flames: Sam Bennett + Rasmus Andersson
Canucks: Brandon Sutter + Chris Tanev

Canadiens (S Bennett + C Tanev + B Sutter)
Flames (A Galchenyuk)
Canucks (B Gallagher + R Andersson)


M Pacioretty - S Bennett - J Drouin
A Lekhonen - B Sutter - C Hudon
P Byron - P Danault - A Shaw
N Sherbak - J De La Rose - N Deslauries

V Mete - S Weber
K Alzner - C Tanev
D Schlemko - J Petry.

19 Apr 2018 16:39:00
Is this a joke?

19 Apr 2018 18:42:16
Terrible for CGY. Bennet for Galchenyuk is a lateral move and you think we should add s solid low cost NHL ready prospect. No thank you.

19 Apr 2018 19:54:25
Actually that's a good deal with galchenyuk. Bennett has showed flashes of brilliance but hasn't been able to capitalize on it. I think he could benefit from a change of scenery. He belongs in the east.

19 Apr 2018 21:11:56
Lmao Galchenyuk is much more proven as a decent secound line guy
And you want us to add Gallagher
Holy Christ
Flamea and Canucks fan really do believe in miracles.

20 Apr 2018 01:50:35
hell no from montreal Bennett is going to be a bust hell no wtf.

20 Apr 2018 02:57:25
I'm actually a Devils fan thank you very much. If you haven't seen the package that the Canadiens receive for them then that's your problem.

18 Apr 2018 22:43:39
Sabres need help, man. I bet these players get traded regardless, so this is a scenario I can see working.

to St Louis
Lehner

to Buffalo
Allen

Two goaltenders who have shown flashes of brilliance, but also probably would benefit from a change in scenery.

---------------------------------------------

to Calgary
O'Reilly

to Buffalo
Tkachuk
Brouwer

Brouwer has negative value to Calgary due to his cap term and hit, but would likely be a learderly presence on a deam devoid of it. Buffalo very well could end up drafting the other Tkachuk, so to have them together would be quite nice for them. O'Reilly would likely be the final piece to get Calgary into the playoffs, and such a power move is probably what Treliving needs to save his job.

19 Apr 2018 04:40:08
I don't think Calgary trades Tkachuk. O'Rielly is good but his contract is huge and plus he's older. Would rather keep Tkachuk and hold on to Brouwer unless a team will take him for a cheaper price. And Allen is better than Lehner IMO.

19 Apr 2018 05:39:19
Yea, no. Mr. “I’m comfortable with losing” is not getting you Tkachuk. He may be the most valuable piece on the Flames. You’d be lucky to swap Brouwer for O’Reilly after those stupid comments he made.

19 Apr 2018 15:12:43
SC4CGY, i'm pretty sure even after those comments he's still worth more the Brower. Just a hunch ahah.

10 Apr 2018 18:53:27
Calgary sam bennet

Coyetes max domi

10 Apr 2018 19:33:47
No from Arizona imo.

10 Apr 2018 21:36:50
Maybe a decent start for a change of scenery for 2 guys who could use it. But I think flames add something.

11 Apr 2018 00:07:34
Why Jim? I'm just curious, I don't see much of Domi. Does Domi have more upside? Or has he done better? Not being a smart ass. jus uneducated by Domi.

11 Apr 2018 11:27:27
Be ause Domi just had 45 points this year wich isn't great but at least its not 26 points in 82 games like Bennet had last year two. Domi had 1, 50 point season, 1 38 point and now 45 point. That not bad for a 12 overall pick whos still just 23 year old. Bennett has 1 36 point season and 2 26 points season. That veey bad for a top 5 pick and for a first round pick kn general. Bust.

11 Apr 2018 18:40:19
Yeah, I think they’re similar in the way they can both play with a bit of an edge and have under achieved offensively, I just feel like domi may still be a more consistent scorer for his career. Again, just a guess. No way of knowing what either will accomplish.

09 Apr 2018 22:27:43
CGY:
• TJ Brodie
• Mark Jankowski
• Rasmus Andersson
• 2019 2nd

BUF:
• Ryan O'Rielly
• Sam Reinhart

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - S Reinhart
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
S Bennett - R O'Rielly - M Ferland

09 Apr 2018 23:17:14
Oreilly 3rd line yikes
And no from buff.

09 Apr 2018 23:32:20
Doesn’t make sense to trade for O’Rielly just to put him on the 3rd line.

11 Apr 2018 19:03:27
Again, another terrible trade for the Flames. After O’Reilly’s comments on garbage bag day, I wouldn’t give just 1 of those assets (maybe the 2nd) for O’Reilly.

09 Apr 2018 21:45:13
Calgary Flames:
• Dougie Hamilton
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• Mitch Marner

Calgary Flames:
• Sam Bennett
• Dillon Dube
• Jusso Valimaki
Philadelphia Flyers:
• Wayne Simmonds


J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Marner
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - W Simmonds
K Versteeg - M Jankowski - M Frolik
M Ferland - N Shore - T Brouwer

M Giordano - T Brodie
R Andersson - T Hamonic
B Kulak - M Stone

09 Apr 2018 22:03:39
I wouldn't trade Hamilton for Marner. he's the Dman on Flames you build around.

09 Apr 2018 22:11:49
You need to stop. TOR fans will likely disagree, but Hamilton just finished tied for goals by Defenseman. 25 years old 6’5” right shot D that is a great skater. He’s worth more than just Marner, but you don’t trade him regardless.
And then you trade away our youth and depth for an older player like Simmonds (who i'd love to get) but not at that price. A young 21 year old NHLr with lots of potential stil, a top D prospect and top C prospect. Too much.

09 Apr 2018 22:15:16
Why trade for both Marner and Simmonds? Just do one, and tbh I’d rather trade for Simmonds.

10 Apr 2018 02:53:29
As a leafs fan I would not want anything to do with Hamilton extremely overrated and 1 dimensional I’d rather go after Colton Paryanko, Eric Johnson or Seth Jones ( definitely won’t be traded. ) i'd rather go for Girodano then Hamilton and that says a lot. But regardless neither player will be traded. Marner=Guadreau.

10 Apr 2018 04:34:46
And that’s why you’re a dunce vb. Really you would rather gio over Hamilton right now? Wow.

10 Apr 2018 04:53:05
Small scoring wingers are a dime a dozen. you don’t trade a young top two defenseman to get that.

10 Apr 2018 05:22:25
I agree the flames wouldn’t make that trade.

If you would rather Gio over Hamilton at this point in their careers, no one can help you

But saying players like marner are a dime a dozen is not close to reality either. The leagues getting younger I know, but 20 year olds with 130 pts in 150 games are not dime a dozen lol.

10 Apr 2018 12:58:26
Giordano over Hamilton? Lol.

10 Apr 2018 12:22:48
Marner is good but comon. You don't get Dougie Hamilton with a 5.10 winger.

10 Apr 2018 14:02:11
Hey colt, I agree, so can habs fans stop trying to get #1 centres with Gallagher haha.

10 Apr 2018 20:19:02
I’ll reiterate what i said I’d rather give less to get an older more well rounded Gio then giving up more for a 1 dimensional Hamilton. Obviously Hamilton has more value but his value is not as high as people believe.

10 Apr 2018 22:24:23
@vbbbvvbb: you definitely an eastern hockey fan that likely never watches Flames games. You need to research more. Please explain how Hamilton is 1 dimensional. His advanced stats are awesome. He’s one of the top scoring D men in the entire league and his #’s have gone up every year. You’re letting bias and a few things you read a couple years ago get in the way of being smart.
But still, no way in hell should CGY trade Hamilton, period, let alone for only Marner.

10 Apr 2018 23:39:46
This is what I think. Flames would take Guadreau over Marner. As a leafs fan I’ll take Marner over Guadreau because of potential and ELC. Guadreau is better now but not by much. Keep in mind Guadreau plays with Monahan and top PP with consistent linemates. Meanwhile Marner fluncuates lines a lot and dosent have a Elite Monahan to play with. ( he almost never plays with Mathews or Nylander) . He often carry’s his line and drives possession better then Guadreau IMO. Also I enjoy watching Winnipeg play and I’ve noticed when the jets played them and the leafs he gets out of position in his own end almost on a shiftly basses. He also has a tendency to get burnt on the rush he is not a bad defender I’d put him in the Morgan Rielly Catagory value wise. I’ll admint I may be biased due to not liking Hamilton’s tool set and other fans probably value him higher then I do. But there is no way I trade Marner for Hamilton. I also accept the fact that considering the flames have an similar skill set player in Guadreau both teams would respectfully decline.

09 Apr 2018 15:31:30
Calgary Plans:

Curtis Lazar to VAN for Sixth Round Pick
Garnet Hathaway to ARI for Sixth Round Pick
Brett Kulak to TOR for Fourth Round Pick
Troy Brouwer, Second Round Pick to ARI for Seventh Round Pick

CGY:
• Sam Bennett
• Rasmus Andersson
BUF:
• Sam Reinhart

CGY:
• Adam Fox
• Dillon Dube
• 2019 3rd Round Pick
OTT:
• Mike Hoffman

( Sign Sam Gagner )

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - S Reinhart
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Hoffman - M Jankowski - M Ferland
K Versteeg - N Shore - S Gagner

09 Apr 2018 17:23:36
Why even trade for Hoffman if he’s on the 3rd line lol waste. Calgary shouldn’t even make that trade they don’t need him.

09 Apr 2018 20:31:27
Mcjesus they need more scoring.

10 Apr 2018 01:23:45
Sign Gagner? You realize he’s under contract with the Canucks for another couple years right? lol, also Canucks say no to lazar for a 6th, we need picks not busts.

10 Apr 2018 04:35:55
Then go for a forward better suited for flames, not another LW and store him on the 3rd line makes no sense.

10 Apr 2018 05:20:48
Honestly Simmonds would be a nice fit. He could play 1st or 2nd RW and play PP/ PK.

11 Apr 2018 23:10:19
Ottawa says, "hahahahaha"

Then hangs up the phone.

09 Apr 2018 10:22:30
#1
Calgary Flames:
• Adam Fox
• Brett Kulak
• Third Round Pick

Arizona Coyotes:
• Max Domi

#2
Calgary Flames:
• Sam Bennett
• Rasmus Andersson

Buffalo Sabres:
• Sam Reinhart

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - S Reinhart
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Domi - M Jankowski - M Ferland
C Lazar - N Shore - T Brouwer

M Giordano - D Hamilton
T Brodie - T Hamonic
J Valimaki - M Stone

08 Apr 2018 15:53:22
To VAN:
Andrew Ladd
CGY 1st 2018 (probably 12th overall)

To NYI:
Brandon Sutter


Isles sacrifice a high pick to get rid of Ladd's contract. They get a useful (yet overpayed) player in return.

Canucks can afford to take on a bad contract. Ladd would have to waive his NTC but he's from BC so it's a strong possibility.

08 Apr 2018 18:46:07
Lmao no not worth at all to do that for islanders are you serious?!

08 Apr 2018 18:48:05
If anything, it should be Ladd and a little for Sutter. Both contracts are albatrosses tho.

08 Apr 2018 20:11:16
That’s a big over payment to dump Ladd.

08 Apr 2018 09:50:14
Philadelphia Flyers:
• Wayne Simmonds

Calgary Flames:
• Sam Bennett
• Jon Gillies
• 2019 2nd Round Pick
• Rasmus Andersson

#2 Trade -

Montreal Canadiens:
• Brendan Gallagher
• 2018 2nd Round Pick

Calgary Flames:
• TJ Brodie
• Mark Jankowski


2018-19 Projected Line-Up

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - W Simmonds
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - B Gallagher
M Ferland - N Shore - M Frolik
G Hathaway - C Lazar - T Brouwer

M Giordano - D Hamilton
J Valimaki - T Hamonic
B Kulak - M Stone

08 Apr 2018 12:32:13
Galagher is worth considerably less than brodie, a 2nd for jankos ok value but he wouldn't be traded.

08 Apr 2018 14:23:11
Mtl takes that.

08 Apr 2018 14:55:34
Philadelphia doesn't need any more goalie prospects. Take out Gillies and Bennett and give us Fox.

08 Apr 2018 17:30:21
MB wants to build around Gallagher 's leadership and even if they get a LHD DMan for him. they won’t sacrifice him.

09 Apr 2018 03:02:34
I’ll say it again. You must not be a Flames fan. Your trades are always over payment from Calgary. MTL likes Gallagher but no way he’s worth Brodie alone let alone adding a very promising C in Jankowski.

09 Apr 2018 10:19:51
I'd take Eazy E trade

Wayne Simmonds

For

Rasmus Andersson
Adam Fox
2nd Round 2019.

 
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