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11 Jun 2018 16:53:46
OTT: karlsson(extended)

TB: Mcdonagh Johnson 2019 1st



OTT: Smith

CHI: 2018 3rd



OTT: Pageau Ceci Gustavsson

Car: terravainnen 2019 2nd


OTT: Hoffman Chlapic

EDM: 2018 1st

11 Jun 2018 17:43:30
Lmao wtf you’re a sens fan and that’s what you want for a return for karlsson?

11 Jun 2018 19:04:08
Bro you're def not a sens fan. All those trades are horrific for Ottawa

11 Jun 2018 19:23:44
Rambo is not going to be happy with your proposal Sensfan. It would be Kucherov, Hedman and a 1st in the eyes of John Rambo.

11 Jun 2018 19:28:13
Teravainen is worth way more.

11 Jun 2018 19:41:19
If the sens can extend Karlsson why would they trade him.

13 Jun 2018 22:42:51
For once I agree with vbbvbb which is so weird. only one that would be workable is the Smith trade, the rest are trash.

04 Jun 2018 16:06:49
TB - Tyler Johnson (6yrs x 5 mill) + 2nd round pick

CAR- Justin Faulk (2yrs x 4.8mill)

Carolina gets another offensive weapon (big need) at a reasonable cap hit while trading a D (deepest position)

Tampa gets the RH puck moving D they have been looking for for a cpl years.

The cap hits are similar enough not to be a problem, Carolina obviously takes on a bigger financial commitment with 4 extra years, but Tampa will need to give Faulk a raise much sooner so again I think it kinda evens out. I had Tampa adding a pick only because RHD that can play top pair will always get a premium over a good winger/ second centre.

What do you think?

04 Jun 2018 16:14:59
I think Carolina wants younger forward.

04 Jun 2018 16:42:57
They might, but to get a player as good as Johnson, younger and locked up, they’re adding a lot to Faulk. This is just a simple swap that makes both teams better and fits both teams needs pretty well I think.

04 Jun 2018 17:52:51
Also I meant to add in that if Tampa wants to make a move involving Tampa, it’s very time sensitive because his NTC kicks in July 1st. So that could be another reason for the pick being as high as a second, because they would need to get it done quick as where Carolina could use more of the summer to figure out their moves.

04 Jun 2018 21:11:26
If I’m carolina I’d be trying to get Point rather than Johnson but that’s just me. If either are even available (point might not be) but with that said I think Faulk could fetch that as a return.

05 Jun 2018 04:14:43
Involving Johnson**.

05 Jun 2018 08:29:12
@MJC: TB not trading Point tho. Especially not for Faulk. They (rightfully) would not include him for Erik Karlsson, so CAR shouldn't even try.

05 Jun 2018 13:00:24
Points not available. Would habe to add significantly to Faulk to think about it. He wasnt available for Karlsson. Johnson for Faulk has been in the rumour mill for years. Still makes sense its not like Johnson is old he's 28 at season start 2 years older than Faulk. i'm confident Johnson will be moved before NTC and similar to Subban I believe recieving team can then nullify the clause.

30 May 2018 21:09:16
Canucks horvat edler 50 percent retained

Tampa point challhan foote

Tampa buys out coburn

Sign travars

Stamkos travars kusherov
Miller horvat tj
Palat gourde killborn

Hedman stralman
Mcdonagh Sergachev
Edler dotchin

31 May 2018 00:07:11
Kusherov. That’s all I’m going to say lol.

31 May 2018 00:35:39
^ what you were smokin when you posted this lol.

31 May 2018 00:50:22
Travars is pree bad as well lol.

31 May 2018 03:29:43
That trade is not good.

31 May 2018 03:53:43
I love kusherov!

31 May 2018 04:39:42
Point may put up more point but horvat is a much better 2 way player.

31 May 2018 06:34:22
Killborn lol.

31 May 2018 09:48:31
Point and Horvat are both great two-way players, both potential future Selke finalists, imo. Point's offensive ceiling is higher, tho. Callahan and Foote for Edler is laughable, so no thanks from TB. Easily.

31 May 2018 12:56:53
Ya where do you get that Point isn't a good two way player? Did you miss him playing shut down all year? Completely negated the Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak line in the Boston series no 5 on 5 goals for them after game 1.

31 May 2018 12:59:10
I’d take Horvat over Point.

31 May 2018 13:02:23
Really bad.

31 May 2018 12:56:25
Kusherov, Killborn and Travars (twice) .
Too good.

31 May 2018 19:49:48
Can you hook me up on what you’re smoking
Seems very intense and fun.

31 May 2018 22:07:16
Ill just point back to HERO charts which show Point as a much better player where shot suppression is concerned but ill leave it there. Not worth fighting over minds are made up.

01 Jun 2018 00:56:00
Let’s not forget about challhan.

26 May 2018 23:47:49
Lightning send:
• Alex Killorn
Oilers send:
• 2018 Second Round Pick
• Kris Russell

Coyotes send:
• Nick Hjarlmarsson
• Jakob Chychrun
Oilers send:
• Jesse Puljujärvi
• 10th Overall

27 May 2018 08:06:09
Lightning don't want Russell already have Girardi. Killorn won't waive his NTC. i'm sure theyd love to move him though.

27 May 2018 08:27:56
coyotes trade is weird; oilers need defense but it's not like the coyotes have a surplus so to move what are essentially their two best d-men isn't something I think they do.

28 May 2018 11:13:29
Jeez even if Pul - Chychrun
10th >>>>>>>> Hjalmerson.
And Pul probably a little more valuable than Chych at the moment. See how the season goes. That's sooo bad for Edm.

19 May 2018 07:09:32
A man could dream

Tampa: Simmonds, Morin, 2nd round pick (or whatever pick needed)
Philly: Katchouck, Raddysh

Carolina: Voracek
Philly: Teravainen (assuming that trade is in their favour, draft picks to even it out)

Future lines

Teravainen - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Allison
KATCHOUCK - FROST - RADDYSH
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Rubtsov

Provorov - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - Myers
Hagg - 2018 Draft Pick

Hart
Sandstrom

19 May 2018 13:19:16
Where's giroux.

19 May 2018 14:31:35
Gone via Free Agency.

19 May 2018 15:09:34
He still has 4 years left on his contract haha I can see you’re a big flyers fan when you don’t know your captain and best player is still on the team.

19 May 2018 17:27:06
I would think it was obvious that future lines meant 4-5 years down the road and not now. Even if that wasn't clear I highly doubt a mid first round d-man picked this year would be able to start next season which would be another indication that these lines aren't next season. Same thing with Myers, Hart, Sandstrom, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe and at least a couple if not all 5 of Vorobyev, Allison, Katchouck, Frost and Raddysh. If we're talking about the next couple of years wouldn't you wonder what happened to Gudas, MacDonald and Weise?

19 May 2018 18:49:23
Future lines could mean next season to hahahaha.

19 May 2018 22:01:58
I'll happily admit that I could have been more clear and more precise but I just find it weird that somebody would refer to this upcoming season's lines as "future lines. " I guess if we were still in the playoffs it would make sense but the fact that we are eliminated makes it unnecessary to add "future" to this upcoming season's lines. Besides, like I said before, given every other thing about those lines it'd be absolutely stupid to believe these lines were next season's lines.

As unrealistic as the trades are the lineup is a million times more unrealistic for next season, If you are a Flyers fan (I know you're not so I'm not shocked by your response) and you put even minimal thought in it you should realize that the earliest these lines could be is the 2020/ 21 season. If it's a non Flyers fan I would not assume that they know much about our prospects but I would at least expect them to use minimal thought and realize how unrealistic it is for a defensemen selected in the middle of the first round to make the team the following season meaning the earliest it could be is the 2019/ 20 season.

20 May 2018 00:08:58
Minimal thinking and use of logic would indicate that it isn't.

15 May 2018 18:37:53
Mtl: Pacioretty
Tampa : gourde + sustr

16 May 2018 15:11:09
No thanks, Gpurde had 1 great season but no proven enough and not young he's 26 year old. If where getting a player that old for Patches i'd rather get Johnson who's actually a center. Mtl adds though.

29 Apr 2018 23:49:38
The Habs need high end centre prospects but the draft has more talented wingers and defencemen, particularly in the top 10. It's also recognized as a deep draft (not 2003 or 2015 but still good).

The Rangers are rumoured to want to move up in the draft and have plenty of picks.

Rangers: 3rd overall
Montreal: 9th overall, Boston 1st, Tampa 1st

If it's still not enough, add New Jersey 2nd.

Montreal selects Hayton at 9th.
This would give Montreal 7-8 picks in the first two rounds.

30 Apr 2018 03:05:17
If I’m Rangers I’m definitely not making that trade. They are doing a full out rebuild and blowing everything up I think it would be more wise for Rangers to keep their picks and get 3+ solid players rather than give it all away for one.

30 Apr 2018 03:36:30
C'mon man.

30 Apr 2018 10:47:56
I'm merely going on what's reported in the media. It's not unfair for each side.

"C'mon man" - care to explain? Let's not be lazy here.

30 Apr 2018 11:09:53
Its interesting from mtl. I know theyres a lot of good center deeper in this draft and not in the top 10 so could be a good option for mtl. Again a trade has to work both way so if NYR feels this like they're in a postion to give up all thos picksit could be a good gamble from mtl.

30 Apr 2018 21:49:06
That's a lazy offer from a NNyr fan
Gonna take a top center and dman for Mtl to move that pick
( Don't even wanna hear about Zibanejad or Skjei) they are not good enough.

30 Apr 2018 22:41:53
"That's a lazy offer from a NNyr fan
Gonna take a top center and dman for Mtl to move that pick
( Don't even wanna hear about Zibanejad or Skjei) they are not good enough"

Keyhabs, your ignorance is on full display. So according to you it'll take an established top centre AND a d-man to trade for a player that's projected to be a top winger? Is that what you're saying? High draft picks are valuable but still.

My rationale behind the proposal is that Montreal desperately needs centremen, not wingers, which is what 2-4 are projected to be. They can trade down, get the top centre, and flush out their centre depth with quality players later in the first round aka the Morgan Frost of last year's draft.

PS I'm not a Rangers fan.

03 May 2018 18:45:27
9th ova and spooner.

29 Apr 2018 15:15:10
Tampa: Karlson (sign and trade at 9.9 million for 8 years from Ottawa)

Ott: Mcdonaugh, Foote, Katchouk

Mtl: Ryan, Gourde, 2rd 2018tampa)

Mtl uses they're cap space to acquire assets and a massive cap dump, Tamapa gets a star defensemen that's fits into the age group of Hedman and Stamkos and then Ottawa gets rid of Ryan like they want in any trade for Karlson. Is this fair for every team involved? Would Karlson accept to sign in order to help his team mates and to leave them with assets to build around? he'd be getting paid just slightly more then PK Subban.

29 Apr 2018 15:26:01
I don't think Tampa does it. that's a lot to give up for Karlsson in that they give up all their future and their second best D man/ middle sox forward now. If they can get Karlsson in under the cap they probably wait to the offseason and sign him to replace McDonagh while keeping those other pieces. Montreal the clear winners in this one to me they take one Ryan (overpayed but still useful) and also get Gourde and a second with nothing leaving? that's big. Also highly doubt 3 division rivals would get together for a deal like this.

29 Apr 2018 15:46:14
Lol. Tampa isn't giving up all those 5 pieces.

29 Apr 2018 21:45:43
I don’t know what you all are talking about. To get arguably the best defensman in the game locked up for 8 years under $10 million. You don’t know what you are talking about.

But you all seem to not notice that Montreal gets Ryan Gourde and Tampa’s 2nd for nothing.

30 Apr 2018 00:15:43
Exacly they take 7.5 million of cap for 5 years. Unless you think Ryan has value lol. It may even take more for mtl to takw that contract.

30 Apr 2018 01:01:56
This is just all around so bad.

30 Apr 2018 13:27:44
I literally pointed out the Montreal thing if you read my post. And if you think about it instead of claiming people know nothing youd know that if Karlsson is willing to accept that deal they could sign him in the offseason and save assets (like i said in my post) . I don't think they trade McDonagh i'm a deal for him they would want to add Karlsson to McDonagh. They had the chance to trade for Karlsson or McDonagh they chose McDonagh. They won't essentially trade 1 or 2 firsts 1 or 2 seconds Foote Katchouk Howden Hajek Gourde and Namestnikov for Karlsson and Miller with Namestnikov/ Miller seen as an even swap.

01 May 2018 03:53:38
You did point out Montreal’s “thing”, but Montreal has to give up something in order to acquire assets in a trade. If they don’t the league won’t allow a trade like you have go through. Ottawa and Vegas tried to do that for Derick Brassard and the deadline and the league mixed the deal.

To get the best defensman in the league in a trade under contract at that cap hit long term, ya it would take a package like that. If Tampa wouldn’t want to do that, I get it but that’s what it would take to acquire a player like Karlsson.

01 May 2018 19:28:59
So in other words you want ottawa to take another kick in the nether region in terms of a trade?
Or this is a joke.

If ottawa trades EK they get better, NOT worse. this trade destroys them.

29 Mar 2018 10:32:30
Edm needs a good experience defensmen to bring this team back yo vitory. How bout

Edm: Drai

Tampa: Stralman, Killorn, 3rd 2018

Would Tampa do this? Edm gets their RhD and a good cheap third line center that now makes RnH available to trade. They save money and get what they need. Drai at 8-9 million is crazy when u have Mcdo

29 Mar 2018 23:12:48
Lol get real.

30 Mar 2018 08:14:29
Would TB do this? Obv
Would the Oilers? No way.

25 Feb 2018 15:00:12
Realistic deal for Karlson. No Sergachev and Point.

Tampa:Sergachev,Gourde,Raddysh,Katchouk,2 rd pick 2018

Sens:Karlson,Ryan

Mtl:takes Ryan contract

So

Sens:Sergachev,Gourde,Radysh,2 rd pick 2018

Tampa:Karlson

Mtl:Ryan, Katchouk

25 Feb 2018 15:08:20
Lol you out Sergachev in the deal.

25 Feb 2018 15:53:12
How is it realistic when Tampa would have to take on Ryans contract? Is there long term room on the cap for this? I don't think so.

25 Feb 2018 16:55:02
hellll no from montreal wtf.

25 Feb 2018 19:50:59
Gourde Raddysh and a 1st also a cap dump is good enough.

25 Feb 2018 09:21:48
Ottawa:
- Erik Karlsson (6.5m)
- Zack Smith (3.25m)
- Francis Perron (ELC)
- '19 3rd (PIT)

Tampa Bay:
- Brayden Point (ELC)
- Mikhail Sergachev (ELC)
- Ryan Callahan (5.8m)
- Slater Koekoek (800k)
- '18 1st

________________________________________________

Hoffman- Duchene - Ryan
Dzingel - Point - Stone
Pyatt - Pageau - Callahan
Pajaarvi - Shore - Gaborik

Sergachev - Ceci
Chabot - Wideman
Boroweicki - Koekoek

________________________________________________

Namestnikov - Stamkos - Kucherov
Palat - Johnson - Gourde
Kunitz - Smith - Killorn
Conacher - Paquette - Erne

Hedman - Stralman
Girardi - Karlsson
Coburn - Sustr

________________________________________________

Isnt ideal to have Gaborik, Ryan and Callahan's contracts but Sens get 2 Studs in Point and Sergachev, Koekoek (who they've wanted in the past) and a third first rounder this year which should definitly help with the rebuild.

Bolts get Team Swedens Defence corps (3 of the top 4 anyway), a third line Center in Smith, very versatile, can play anywhere in the lineup including and especially the PK. Francis Perron, a 21 y/o prospect who is currently struggling in the AHL but might thrive with a better team.

Let me know what you guys think. Was pretty hesitant to post a Karlsson trade but decided to have a crack at it

25 Feb 2018 10:12:19
Hoff. I think it's the best one I've seen., however the most parts and most confusing. Lol. But, way better than just Karlsson for . all that.
From what I read. Yzerman isn't going to part with any of his young studs. I just don't think this deal is going to happen, TB and Ottawa., I can see a huge draft day deal, jus not woth Tampa. for some reason Karlsson looks like a Flyer to me. I dunno why lol. but. it's what I see. lol.

25 Feb 2018 12:03:30
Yzerman has said he doesn't really want to give up roster guys. And you're not getting both Sergachev and point, I don't even think you would get one let alone both. Better shot at Namestnikov or gourde.

25 Feb 2018 13:56:13
Buddy we’re talking about Erik Karlsson here. If you want Karlsson, a 2 time Norris trophy defence man and a franchise defenceman in his prime, it’s going to take you both point and sergachev without a doubt. All the hockey analysts have said that so idk where you got this idea from

25 Feb 2018 14:12:42
Man some analysts have said they can do it without either some said Sergachev. I have yet to hear a legit analyst say both. And for a year and a half i wouldn't do both because you create 2 holes by filling one if they do that its in the offseason where they can fill the holes they create. But then it's 1 year of Karlsson. Also Callahan won waive his NTC to Ottawa.

25 Feb 2018 14:17:53
Literally not a single analyst I have read has said Ottawa could get both Point and Sergachev for Karlsson, and anyone suggesting so is delusional. No one is going to trade two budding all-stars that remain cost controlled for a guy who is going to break the bank with his contract demands after next season. Ottawa might be able to get one of them, with some picks/ prospects as well. Be gone with your homerism.

25 Feb 2018 14:52:37
ID say Sergachev and Raddysh is fair for Karlsoon.

27 Feb 2018 18:38:49
If say I want what ever your smoking Colt65 lol take a lot more than sergachev and a vegetable for the best defenceman in the world. A lot more.

25 Feb 2018 02:09:58
Although I really don't want Karlsson to be traded, it seems inevitable. Heres what I think will happen. Let me know what you guys think.

Ottawa: Karlsson, 2019 4th
Tampa Bay: Sergachev, Point, 2018 1st, Raddysh

25 Feb 2018 04:08:42
I wouldn't if I was Tampa. I bet this or next season they win cup without Karlsson, don't need him.

25 Feb 2018 04:54:56
Lol wouldn’t trade Sergachev + Point alone for Karlsson
You say u don’t want Karlsson to be trade to make you legitimate but Ottawa takes that and run all day.

25 Feb 2018 06:13:46
Lol. That Sens 4th next year really helps Tampa consider this. 🙄🙄. This is a no from Tampa. They aren't trading both Sergachev and Point. Maybe one or the other if your lucky then add from there. Maybe not even one of them and Namestnikov instead. They don't really want to trade roster players now. Maybe Gourde instead of Point or Sergachev too Better chance of Gourde than the other two.

25 Feb 2018 14:16:14
TB will trade neither Point not Sergachev in any deal, Yzerman said. So forget all those horrid proposals.

25 Feb 2018 15:58:47
I could see Howden is place of Point. Both Sergachev and Point would not be traded.

24 Feb 2018 02:47:36
Hurricanes trade Noah Hanifan 2019 2nd round pick to Tampa Bay for Tyler Johnson

Or Justin Faulk to Tampa for Tyler Johnson

24 Feb 2018 04:00:34
Lmao. No they don't. Take the 2nd away. Add a 2nd to Johnson and the Canes stil laugh.

24 Feb 2018 04:02:11
That's so bad. Johnson couldn't get either those guys from Carolina.

24 Feb 2018 06:31:33
I don't think there is one Dman + a second on Canes roster they would trade for Johnson. let alone Hanifan.

24 Feb 2018 13:02:19
TB adds to Johnson for either of the CAR D.

24 Feb 2018 13:00:14
Hanifan is a weak Dman and Johnson is a solid Center who can put points on the board. Not only that but Johnson has a contract the Canes and live with.

Anyone who has watched the Canes this year, understand that Hanifan is very weak defensively. He should not have been the Canes all-star that should have been Aho.

24 Feb 2018 15:38:27
Hanifin is good idk what you're saying lol. If it was between Ny/ Marner for Hanifin or Johnson for Hanifin, the Canes obv choose the Leaf offer. Hanifin would get a top line player, not a second line C.

24 Feb 2018 16:53:53
Hanifin is in the same class as Sergachev and is Sergachev a weak dmen? No
Bro you what you talking about
Johnson could get you Pesce but not Hanifin.

24 Feb 2018 17:41:24
T. b is getting e. k on defence. Will happen by deadline.

24 Feb 2018 18:17:37
Probably not carry do u know how my h EK is worth to Ottawa? He's everything here. I again don't like the send but live in have always lived in Ottawa and let me tell ya it's been EK since the day he started theyre. Dorion will ask for at least

Sergachev then Raddysh on top then a first and another top prospect like katchouk. Maybe they even ask for Sergacheb and point and a first round pick.

24 Feb 2018 19:14:27
If Hannifin is so weak, They why would you want to trade for him. What a joke. You're delusional.

24 Feb 2018 21:08:15
Yeah, I love reading guys that make awful trade offers for good players and then when the trade is criticized they trash the player they wanted lol.

25 Feb 2018 02:55:30
Hanifan a -15 Pesce -4. and Pesce plays against the other teams top line and Hanifan the other teams 3rd and 4th lines.

23 Feb 2018 01:36:46
Ott: Karlsson (Extended)

Tampa: Sergachev + Point + Raddysh + 1st.

23 Feb 2018 13:45:47
I think that’s what it takes. And if sens have been told he doesn’t want to stay, which I assume is why the talk has really ramped up in the last 72 hrs, this would be a great return. Still a lot of question marks with picks and very young players. But a guy that is easily a 2nd line centre in the nhl already and may be a 1st line soon enough in a different city, a guy that could be a top pair D very soon, a kid with insane offensive potential and a late first. Only thing is that first may be VERY late. Maybe add a conditional 2nd or something? (If in the next 2 years, that TB 1st isn’t better than 25th, sens get a 2nd as well, which would also be late) . Good post.

23 Feb 2018 16:19:58
TB will neither trade Point nor Sergachev in any deal, Yzerman said this just yesterday. If a deal happens, no current roster player will be involved.

23 Feb 2018 00:26:35
TB: Karlsson

Buf: Tyler Johnson, Colin White , 2019 1st from TB.

OTT: Evander Kane (with extension), Cal Foote, Alex Nylander, 2018 TB 1st, Brett Howden

Have at it everyone.

23 Feb 2018 01:12:54
No from Buffalo and TBH probably no from Tampa Bay.

23 Feb 2018 02:01:48
only way karl is getting traded is if someone takes ryan's contract.

23 Feb 2018 02:11:13
So karlsson and colin white for kane, foote, nylander, a very late 1st and an ok prospect in a weak draft known as howden. I think Ottawa loses

24 Feb 2018 20:13:47
Ottawa loses if they add Ryan in a package deal. This is a fair deal IMO.

22 Feb 2018 23:47:53
mcdonagh and nash to tampa for sergachev and 1st rounder and in case nash only paying have his salary rangers to pick up other half so about 1.2 mil, for tampa to pay

23 Feb 2018 01:05:10
Sergachev will be better than mcdonagh so no.

23 Feb 2018 01:05:33
If they trade their 1st and Sergachev, they would just add a little more for Karlsson.
I think Karlsson wants to be In Tampa and Tampa wants him bad.

22 Feb 2018 21:24:13
What should the Leafs do?

Everybody has a different opinion on this, here is mine.

Stand pat at the deadline.
I know people want to win now but remember that our core has plenty of years left so don't rush it. Teams will be asking for players such as:
Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Dermott if the Leafs go after one of the high quality names put there and in my opinion that would waste what they have been trying to do(win for many years, not just one). Teams such as Boston and Tampa are already ahead of them this year, with Pittsburgh always playoff dangerous, so let them break the farm for a chance to win this year.
Bozak and JVR WILL be gone in the off season so get something for them. Add during the off season when more players will be available for trade or Free agency.

Deadline
JVR(TOR)
for
Miller.C(VEG)

With an abundance of dman under contract for next year or RFA's, getting rid of another for a scoring winger for an extra push in the playoffs would help

Bozak.T(TOR)
for
Pilon.G, 4th-2018(WAS)

Capitals get a strong 3rd line center , Leafs get a center prospect which they don't have a lot of

Off Season
Sign
Komarov.L 2 yrs - $4 mil
Nylander.W 6 yrs - $39 mil
Carrick.C 2 yrs - $4.5 mil
Miller.C 3 yrs - $9 mil

This still leaves over $6 mil to play with.

2018-2019

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Johnsson-?-Brown
Hyman-Gauthier-Komarov
Martin

Reilly-Millar
Gardiner-Hainsey
Zaitsev-Dermott
Carrick

22 Feb 2018 21:33:00
And. that's the problem with trading Bozak. I'd rather hold onto him for the playoff push, and maybe even resign him. He knows the system, and will be cheaper than his 4.2 million that he's making now. Plus, he's played with this team his entire career, if we make a decent offer, hell prob resign. So honestly, i'd rather keep Bozak and attempt to resign him.

With JVR, he isn't getting a dman who is an RFA (controllable asset) who has nearly the same amount of points as him. And Vegas wouldn't want to go for JVR, they have way too many forwards already.

22 Feb 2018 22:36:20
I agree with standing pat. I’m ok with a small add at center and even defense if it doesn’t cost too much. I would like it if they traded JVR if they get decent value. Trading JVR also allows Martin back in the line up, depending on what else they do. I know lots of you don’t like Martin but he is important come playoffs. I agree with TSS 100% with keeping Bozak. He is and has been very underrated for years. He plays PP, PK and is good on the draw. I don’t think they should pursue McDonagh. He is a very solid defenseman but I think the leafs would give up too much.

23 Feb 2018 01:36:27
Bozak will hit the open market. with the salary cap going up his salary will increase as well. It happens every time.

23 Feb 2018 16:31:15
I get that they want to keep Carrick but 2.5mil for. 7th D man when you have Lilj coming up. Also I would keep Bozak and JVR for a playoff push then if you lose them you lose them then you have more money in free agency.

22 Feb 2018 16:18:23
I've seen TB rumours around EK a bunch but how about this.

TB: Karlsson

OTT: Sergachev, Johnson, 2018 1st and 2019 1st


Let me know how this is for value. Do you think 2 firsts is 2 much? I think this is pretty fair both sides

22 Feb 2018 17:27:47
Value for a player for player trade seems ok, but everyone keeps forgetting that Karlsson is a free agent and IS bolting to the highest bidder for nothing after next year.

Yzerman pretty much always wins the trades and I don't think Yzerman is an all in gambling type GM. I don't think he'd sell out his future for a couple of years of Karlsson's service.

Realistically I think 1 - first and Sergachev is more likely what Stevie would be inclined to offer. Ottawa might be able to play a little hard ball and net a later round pick as well.

22 Feb 2018 17:56:46
I saw this on the score but I think they added a high prospect as well.

22 Feb 2018 18:12:09
Looks pretty good.

22 Feb 2018 22:20:36
Good god "Lets Be Real". He Is NOT a free agent. he has this year and next left on his 6.5m contract.

22 Feb 2018 23:11:58
Hoff. I am well aware. like I said after next year.
Not worth it IMO to lose those assets for a short term gain.

23 Feb 2018 02:25:36
Not a fan of Johnson don’t want another Cory Conacher situation.

22 Feb 2018 09:36:01
So not that I want to trade karlsson but I did hear this one a couple times now and not only is it more realistic than every trade you people post but it gives value to both teams.

Ott: karlsson, Ryan.

Tbl: point, sergachev, and the next 3 years of first rounders.

And this is an actually real rumor said to be a possibility

I wouldn't mind adding Paul to Ottawa's side to get my hometown boy Matthew peca out of Tampa and into ottawa.

22 Feb 2018 11:20:27
No from Tampa, unless EK has an extension.

- that's three first round picks first of all.
- Sergachev has all the makings of a top 2 dman (not as good as EK but still the makings of a top 2)
- Point is 21 and PPG. don't think theyd be inclined to give him up.


Imo, without an extension, that's a definite no from Tampa. Even with an extension, I don't know if the cap works, considering EK and Ryan would total about 17 million, while the others total less then 3 million.

Just can't see Tampa tearing down what they've built to take 1.5 years of a guy and an enormous cap dump. I mean, if this happened and I was a TB fan, i'd be pretty pissed.

22 Feb 2018 11:35:01
Only if he is extended does he get that much John Rambo. Especially if you’re sending dead weight with him to Tampa.

22 Feb 2018 11:54:12
Huge no for karlsson.
If you add Ryan to that trade your not going get as much as you think.

22 Feb 2018 12:54:31
Not sure if you are trolling or serious.

Given that Point and Serg are cost controlled and Karlsson is going to be looking for mega bucks on his next deal, I would not trade them straight up for Karlsson. Adding Ryan in the deal materially impacts any value Ottawa will get back. Few teams in the league have the cap space to take on that kind of a hit, and even fewer would be in a position where it makes sense to do so. The cost of someone taking that horrific contract off Ottawa’s hands would be a first round pick, at minimum. And you add 3 1st round picks?

You may have to change your name Rambo, because you are clearly biased. Brutal proposal. Tampa laughs till you hang up.

22 Feb 2018 13:02:42
It was also stated that ottawa would be best served trading Karlsson without the addition of a cap dump would make for the best return. Also i cannot see Point added. Tampa has cup aspirations and aren't likely to be sdding one of there top 5 point forwards. I can see Sergachev, Howden, Foote orcthat Libor Hajek guy and a 1st for Karlsson.

22 Feb 2018 13:13:19
They are saying that if the team takes Ryan too you get a discount. You aren't getting that return with Ryan included.

22 Feb 2018 17:29:46
I agree with FT4A.
Accurate assessment of the situation.

22 Feb 2018 18:21:52
Terrible for tampa.

24 Feb 2018 08:46:01
How is this terrible for Tampa?

Bobby Ryan = one bad season and injury plagued this season are his cons. but his pros include being a solid playoff performer, and a consistent 50 to 60 point player each season when healthy. bad contract gets cancelled out by packaging with generational talent.

Erik Karlsson - best defenceman in the world, generational talent, can instantly add credibility to any team and make them a contender single handedly, he and hedman have experience playing together and would instantly become the kuch stammer of the back end in Tampa, are some of his pros. one bad season early in career and one bad season now don't change his value and are his only cons

Point and sergachev are having magnified seasons as both are playing with the best duo and one of the best defenceman in the game right now so naturally they will look better than they are not that they aren't good but without kuch stammer and hedman point is around dzingle level and sergachev will be great but Chabot will be better.

The 3 1sts are definitely a necessity as Tampa will not be finishing in bottom 10 anytime soon esp if they were to add EK making their 1st rounders a lot less valuable than any other team.

Cap space might be an issue down the road but who's to say there's no way around that? Maybe a 3 way deal where Tampa flips Ryan to Vegas for a pick or 2?

As a sens fan I would never take any less than this for our best player pretty much since they returned to the league. we'd be crazy to accept less.

22 Feb 2018 04:18:12
OTT: Karlsson
TB: Segachev, Howden, Raddysh, Joseph

22 Feb 2018 04:56:37
I'll bite on this Karlsson crap.

I think what would be fair.
Sergachev
Raddysh
1st in 18
Palat.

22 Feb 2018 11:45:13
If a signed forward goes its Johnson. After my comment on an earlier post I heard Sergachev Johnson Howden 1st 2nd for Karlsson and conditional 3rd. I know people are saying Sergachev Point 3 firsts but i don't see both being included and not saying its not accurate or possible but that rumour doesn't exist in the Tampa media/ rumour circle.

 
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