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21 Nov 2017 18:07:52
Hahahaha Larry Brooks in NY suggesting that Ranges will rebuild and he thinks each of Nash and Grabner could get a 1st and that McDonaugh could get them Marner or Sergachev.
I've never liked Brooks. Tortorella and him getting into it when he coached the Rangers was always so good.

Would Marner for McDonaugh + little make sense for both teams?
Sure as heck wouldn't trade Sergachev for him if I was Tampa.

21 Nov 2017 22:22:42
Honestly, its intruguing, but if I could get euther Hanifin or McD, i'd choose Hanifin, simply cause of age. McDonagh is aging, and although he is still is in his twenties, i'd rather have someone who can stay with this team for the next 10 years+.

19 Nov 2017 23:38:45
Vancouver Chris tanev and alex burmistrov maybe 3 or 2 round pic

Newjersy pavel zacha

Vancouver sutter and Dorset Ben Hutton

Tampa bay cal Foote koekkoek ryan callahan Braydon Coburn and first round pic and maybe a 2

20 Nov 2017 15:01:20
Tampa blocks your number.

20 Nov 2017 18:37:38
Yzerman asks who your weed guy is, gets his number, THEN blocks yours.

16 Nov 2017 15:38:06
Tampa Bay:
J. VanReimsdyk LW
T. Bozak C
R. Polak D
C. Carrick D
2nd 2018

Toronto:
S. Koekkoek D
C. Foote D
B. Howden C
3rd 2019 (becomes a 2nd if they win the cup 2018 or 2019)

16 Nov 2017 16:24:45
Lol no.

16 Nov 2017 16:45:45
Two words: salary cap.
No from bolts valuewise anyway.

16 Nov 2017 08:03:42
Vancouver sutter Dorset

Tampa bay Ryan callahan cal Foote slater koekkoek 1 round pick or Taylor raddysh

16 Nov 2017 08:27:19
Bro seriously wtf r u on it’s not kush.

16 Nov 2017 09:10:00
Good deal Tampa shed lots of cap and add good players to, fill out their forward core. Although maybe a 2nd from van would be needed to make the deal go through.

16 Nov 2017 13:02:45
Your a Canucks fan obviously and Foote could be a top 2 D one day.

16 Nov 2017 17:10:08
It's def not kush. It's meth.

16 Nov 2017 21:17:17
They don’t shed that much cap. Dorsett has a pretty bad contract doesn’t he?

16 Nov 2017 22:17:50
My reply didn't get posted. Long story short tampa actually gains salary and gives up way too much.

18 Nov 2017 10:41:49
Actually Tampa ADDS almost 1.5 mill cap in this deal, in 2 years when they need it only Dorsett is gone freeing up less cap than a Callahan buyout, and I don't see the place for either of them in Tampas lineup theyd both be 4th line. Meanwhile they're giving up their top prospect in Foote, a D man who probably needs to move but has had a lot of success this year when they actually play him in Koekkoek and a one of their top 5 prospects in Raddysh or a 1st? To gain 1.5 mill cap? I don't see that as a very good deal.

18 Nov 2017 23:59:19
Yes but they get a shout down center what good at face off and dorset for some not even playing a the nhl that makes them a deeper team and they have 3 mill and cap space they wanna win a cup this is the year to to it they would be the deepest team in the league.

10 Nov 2017 15:46:21
WPG: Enstrom, Dano
TB: Koekkoek

Winnipeg can get a younger defenceman on the left side and they build towards next year. Tampa gets an older proven veteran defenceman plus another depth forward for a long playoff run this upcoming spring.

10 Nov 2017 18:11:53
Salary doesn't work for Tampa.

10 Nov 2017 22:27:51
WInnipeg could retain 50% of Enstroms salary if that's the case.

11 Nov 2017 09:07:48
How does this make sense for TB? They already have 8 NHL defensemen and after this trade they still have 8.
Hedman, Stralman, Sergachev, Coburn, Dotchin, Girardi, Koekkoek and Sustr. Plus the salary thing, makes zero sense.

Sustr would be the one to go, btw.

20 Oct 2017 17:40:51
I think TB as to really push for a cup in the next two years before Kuch big deal also without relying to give up sergachev for duchene

TB: Duchene retail 50%, Comeau retain 50%, Barbario

Col: Callahan, Koekkoek, Erne, Cirelli, Ingram, 1st, 1st 2019

20 Oct 2017 18:35:33
Sergachev > Duchene anyways
Sergachev >> Drouin too!

20 Oct 2017 22:00:11
I wouldn't trade sergachev if I'm Tampa. But it's a bit early to say he's better than Duchene and drouin. he has played 8 games and looked real good. One has proven a lot over 8 years, one has looked like a budding star over a cpl years and this kid has a ton of potential to be better.

20 Oct 2017 22:58:21
qwerty never said he was going to trade serg. said to avoid trading. i don't get where yup and unbiased are going from there. but i think too much going to colorado, maybe take out erne or koek and a 1st.

21 Oct 2017 00:27:01
Wellllll if you could read to understand l he said he wanted to make this deal instead of having to give up Sergachev for Duchene.
And I was pointing out that that would be silly because I believe Sergachev has more value than Duchene anyways. And then I took a jab at Montreals GM.

14 Oct 2017 23:34:03
Col : Duchene

Ottawa : (sign and trade) turris, lajoe



Tampa : hedman

Ottawa : pheneuf, white, 1st in 2018, 2nd in 2019


Turris trade is actually close to happening if sakic can talk to and sign turris.

With sergachev looking to be the next big name defenseman in Tampa and his entry contract expiring at the same time as pheneufs, who will be forced to take a pay cut at that time freeing space for sergachev, it works in there favour. On top of that Tampa gets a solid replacement for Drouin and a one two punch with stamkos in white, plus a couple high draft picks.

Ottawa in turn reunites the hedman karlsson combo to do some damage.

Hoffman Duchene Ryan
Smith Brown Stone
Brassard Pageau pyatt
Burrows Thompson dzingle

Karlsson hedman
Ceci Chabot
Wideman Borvievski

Scratches : Claeson oduya formenton

If not now maybe in a couple years when Tampa runs into cap issues which is blunt to happen with the likes of Johnson palat point killorn sergachev kucherov all needing big raises and having hedman stamkos Callahan vasilevski etc all under big contracts as it is. White will give them the flexibility to move Johnson or palat.

15 Oct 2017 01:05:51
Wow. You are delusional a f.

15 Oct 2017 03:22:47
colorado says get lost give us a hockey player.

15 Oct 2017 05:52:34
Tanks absolutely laughs at you. That's the worst thing I maybe have ever seen on here.

15 Oct 2017 08:38:20
Awful for tampa. Also Johnson Palat Killorn are all signed long term already and Callahan will likely be bought out in the last year of his deal.

15 Oct 2017 09:16:44
Thats pretty much the worst offer for Hedman, like ever. Every conversation for Hedman would start with Chabot, Hoffman and then you add from there. Hedman is a top 3 defenseman in this league signed to a good contract long-term and just about to enter his prime.

15 Oct 2017 16:23:54
The_Triplets I get that hedman is amazing but to start a trade for him with both Hoffman and Chabot? Lmfao not even bro.

Like I said after signing stamkos long term they are already pushing the cap limits and still have to sign the likes of sergachev, kucherov, point, etc. All of which will demand significant raises.

Getting Hoffman makes it worst as he will want a raise soon too. Chabot also when he resigns will be on a big contract.

Chabot, white and pheneufs as well as kucherov, sergachev, and point will all have expiring contracts in 2021.

Point will likely get close to 4 million, kucherov will be upwards of 7 million, and sergachev will likely want around 5 million. That being said Hoffman will also jump to about 6 million, and Chabot more likely than not will earn around 6 or 7 million, both of will will hurt their cap long term. With that being said hedman for phaneuf changes nothing contract wise now but in 2021 he will be taking a huge pay cut (at least half what he's making now) saving them cap space plus white should have his stride going by then which will give them the option to move Johnson or pallat as white can slip in their spot at around a 3 million price tag. On top of that they get a couple draft picks. Phaneuf may not be anyone's favourite but he is still a valuable piece to any team.

15 Oct 2017 23:45:13
Hahahahaha. Yes start with Hoffman and Chabot for Hedman. Man you make yourself look clueless as f.

16 Oct 2017 00:20:10
Im an ottawa fan and i agree with the triplets, you are undervaluing hedman in a big way. both trades favour ottawa so greatly its almost embarrassing.

16 Oct 2017 13:26:23
Man Phaneuf and Hedman aren't even comparable on the ice you don't move them for a quicker expiring contract. They have a Johnson replacement its Point. you're talking 2+ years away for these guys. i'm also not sure you you can say at this point Chabot will demand more than Serg on an extension. Lightning need forwards to fill out 3rd line in 2 years for cheap? Their names are Adam Erne Mitchell Stephens Anthony Cirelli Brett Howden and Alexander Volkov.

18 Oct 2017 19:48:26
Facelift39 you're not a sens fan dude lol I never said Phaneuf was equal value to hedman, I said pheneufs contract was more favourable due to when it expires which is why I added white and the to high end picks, I also said that kucherov sergachev and point will all big expecting big raises the same year Phaneuf contract expires and hell be expected to take a pay cut.

No way Tampa can afford to keep those 3 palat Johnson Killorn hedman vasilevski stamkos and Callahan. Moving hedman for Pheneuf white and picks frees up 4 million that year while keeping their defence competitive and with the white addition who by then will be top 6 ready they can afford to shop palat or Johnson and Callahan giving them space to give those 3 their raise and get white a bit cheaper than the ones they lose in trades. Not to mention a couple picks to play with.

18 Oct 2017 20:00:23
And facelift39 please explain how the Duchene offer favours ottawa in any way? That's the dumbest comment I've ever seen.

Turris been in ottawa for the same time Duchene been in the league and their careers virtually mirror one another with a 0.04 point per game difference between them. Turris played with stone or Hoffman for half that time and No one near as good the other half and played the 1st 2 - 3 years without karlsson as he wasn't drafted yet while Duchene was with solid players every year from hejduk, orielly, stastny, landeskog, MacKinnon, etc over the years.

Couple the history with getting lajoie as well who is a solid defense prospect and this is a hockey trade.

Not to mention this is close to happening with the holding point being sakic wants to have turris signed before pulling the trigger.

Oh and please don't call yourself a sens fan anymore or at least get a clue first.

17 Sep 2017 13:36:45
SJS: Sustr, 4th
TBL: Tierney

Not a blockbuster, but a small trade that i think helps both teams.
If Sergachev makes the Bolts out of camp, they will have 8 D on the roster and San Jose currently only has 6. Tierney still has some potential, but he is stuck behind Thornton, Couture and Hertl on C. This allows Tampa to put Point on the 2nd line RW and Tierney on 3C. The pick is for the age difference (26 to 23).

18 Sep 2017 03:52:31
Not awful but Sustr kinda sucks, I'd rather keep Tierny, the late pick doesn't help.

07 Sep 2017 01:25:55
John Tavares and Nikolai Kulimen to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for Tyler Johnson, Slater Koekkoek, Cal Foote, Eric Condra, a 2018 1st Round Pick and a 2019 2nd Round Pick.

Tampa Bay gets a 1/ 2 punch down the middle that will be the rival of only Pittsburgh, and could propel Tampa to their second Stanley Cup in Franchise history.
Tavares, Stamkos, Hedman and Kucherov will be unrivalled.

New York gets a replacement centre in Johnson, who is a step down, but it is still possible that he hits 50-60 points. Cal Foote was a first rounder, who could possibly become a solid top 4 dman. Slater Koekkoek could be a good top 6 dman, who could become better as he matures. A 1st is always nice, and getting rid of Kulimen is a plus.

*This trade would only happen at the deadline. Right now, New York holds the leverage, and obviously, Tavares would garner more. However at the deadline, if Tavares obviously doesn't want to stay, its better to get something, than nothing for him. It will be less, but this is still something.

07 Sep 2017 06:33:29
Ya Tampa doesn't touch that without a decent value extension in place. that's an absolute ton to give up. I realize it would take a lot to get Tavares but all that for a half season?

07 Sep 2017 11:29:21
@jbs

Could get you a cup tho. I mean, Tavares is a huge boost over Johnson.

Plus, the big pieces are Foote, a 1st and Johnson. Isn't that kinda similiar to everyone else posting like Galchenyuk/ Juulsen/ 1st? only reason i went with TB instead is because Tavares to TB makes them more of a legitimate cup contender than Tavares to MTL.

07 Sep 2017 12:28:09
Either extension in place and even then it's debatable whether - from a TB point of view - giving up all those assets is worth grading up from TJ to JT OR simply go after him in the off-season without giving up anything.

16 Aug 2017 02:59:36
Wild thought but

Tampa Bay acquires:
-D Sedin
-H Sedin

Vancouver acquires:
-1st round pick 2018
-Callan Foote

Lightning get solid scorers to help with a possible cup run. Canucks ship off the Sedin's to the Eastern Conference and acquire a late 1st as well as a top 4/6 D prospect for their future since their D core is looking pretty bad.

16 Aug 2017 05:47:59
Theres a small thing called salary cap.

16 Aug 2017 06:28:28
1. No thanks
2. Cap.

16 Aug 2017 13:42:20
Over pay because they're falling off and only going to get worse. They were great players, but that's behind them. Also I'm you're sending $850k (if foote even signed his ELC, not sure he did) and taking on near $15 mill I believe on a team that is already making side deals like garrison with vegas ans filpula at last deadline to shed salary.

16 Aug 2017 15:47:05
Yeah that makes sense. I didn't really think about the salary cap.

02 Aug 2017 01:57:12
Tampa: Killorn
Ottawa: Dzingel, Wideman, 2018 2nd

Thoughts?

02 Aug 2017 03:10:44
No thanks. i'm not taking that 7 yr contract especially for those youngins and a second.

02 Aug 2017 03:31:57
Id say a bit of an overpayment.

03 Aug 2017 13:26:08
Ya as Tampa I'd take that in a blink of an eye. i'd probably do it just for Dzingle or Wideman. Killorns deal is decent cap wise but a little long with 6 years left.

03 Aug 2017 22:49:43
Weren't people saying Killorns contract was designed to be taken by Vegas?

03 Aug 2017 23:45:40
No. Killorns deal is designed to be traded in a few years. Some people wanted him exposed to Vegas to tempt them and not have to give up a trade to protect others. Yzerman has designed most contracts the same way recently. NTC becomes limited last few years and salary is reduced compared to cap.

30 Jun 2017 19:25:19
Calgary:
• Rasmus Andersson
• Jusso Valimaki
• Mark Jankowski

Tampa Bay:
• Nikita Kucherov

Gaudreau-Monahan-Kucherov
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Foo
Ferland-Stajan-Brouwer

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Bartkowski-Falkovsky

30 Jun 2017 19:27:35
Lol in your dreams.

30 Jun 2017 20:11:52
TB counters with Spencer, Foote and Peca for Gaudreau. Deal?
(And Kucherov is obv even better than Gaudreau)

30 Jun 2017 22:24:43
Lol. Flames fan for sure.
You'd get laughed at then blocked by Yzerman.

30 Jun 2017 23:44:59
I think youd have a bettet chance getting Stamkos than Kucherov. And those 3 players from Calgary, may get you a stick and skate of Kucherov. but not the player.

01 Jul 2017 02:58:07
No stamkos isn't moving anytime soon he's a monster when healthy and he was the first 4 seasons in the NHL he will probably get past that phase soon.

01 Jul 2017 10:33:40
Brutal CGY adds Guadreau.

03 Jul 2017 05:39:56
Kucherov. One good year. IOn what year is he untraceable. It's reminiscent of Vancouver fans claiming kesler was worth 3 1st round picks after one 40 goal season. one. And he just declined after that. He's no Hall of famer.

22 Jun 2017 16:17:31
Tampa Bay has roughly 23mil in cap space. Then they sign Johnson, Palat, Koekkoek, Dotchin, Gourde. Leaves about 10 mil left. Who will they bring in?

My possibilities:

Joe Thornton 2yrs 5mil aav

Contract would end exactly when Kucherov and Point need new deals.
Imagine these lines:

Palat - Thornton - Stamkos
Point - Johnson - Kucherov
Killorn - Namestnikov - Erne
Paquette - Gourde - Callahan

Cody Franson 1yr 3.75 mil

An Offensive RHD is what they need.

Hedman - Franson
Sergachev - Stralman
Coburn - Dotchin
Koekkoek - Sustr

I know Franson isn't a first pairing D but Dotchin played almost the whole second half of last season there and that shows that Hedman can make his partner look so much better. Sergachev gets a mentor in Stralman and Dotchin one in Coburn. Very balanced wit LHD and RHD.

21 Jun 2017 02:16:15
Well this is my first time on the NHL rumours site

So Montreal made a trade for them to hopefully get Carey price to re-sign in the future.

To HABS: DROUIN + conditional 6th

To LIGHTNING: SERGACHEV + conditional 2nd

My problem with this is that the HABS did not fix their centre problems, in my opinion they could've have went for Matt Duchene because he's a centre that they need and considering that the Avs need D , SERGACHEV could've been in a deal for Duchene. It would've fix HABS centre problem and getting the Avs a grade A d prospect they need. I like DROUIN but I don't think his attitude fits the team

Thoughts?

21 Jun 2017 02:38:58
Joe Salic was asking for like sergachev, 1st and beaulieu which is crazy tbh.

21 Jun 2017 02:51:23
Me too he's an amazing player but I'm pretty sure we aren't going to see some off ice issues.

21 Jun 2017 03:53:33
A little late durr.

21 Jun 2017 03:54:54
Duchene attitude is just as much a question mark as drouins.

21 Jun 2017 04:41:07
Drouins fine. Just a kid that got some bad advice. Players loved him. Fit in very well with the team and stellar once he stopped listening to his parents and came back. I don't think youll have any issues with him at all he's been all class since returning.

21 Jun 2017 15:21:26
Welcome to Armchair GM gong show.
I personally like the Drouin trade, over a trade for Duchene. I jus don't see Duchene as being all that great. I believe he is the most overrated on this site since last season when we were all talking about another Av, Tyson Barrie. and i'm not sold that Duchene is a center?

Sometimes he's a winger, sometimes a center, gets 41 points. anyway, He would however be an upgrade over what we have atm.
As for Drouins attitude, time will tell if that was jus a one time incident. I think in Montreal he could really flourish. he wanted to be the guy, well now he's going to get his chance.

There are a lot of expectations on this kid. not sure if totally fair, jus hope he can handle it . I seen one article that kinda compared him to Guy Lafleur. I had to laugh at that. us Habs fans are sometimes right out to lunch. lol


Hope ya enjoy the site. don't take to anything personal, and just have fun. Youll learn who is legit and who the trolls are really fast.

15 Jun 2017 15:30:26
To Carolina: Matt Duchene, Chris Bigras, Sergei Boikov, 2017 2nd round pick

To Colorado: Jaccob Slavin 13th overall pick

To Tampa: Tyson Barrie, Mikhail Grigorenko, rights to Will Butcher

To Colorado: Jonathan Drouin, 14th Overall pick.

15 Jun 2017 17:26:40
0% Colorado takes either trade.
They are not adding more if they are trading Duchene already, and they aren't trading their top dman for another forward.

15 Jun 2017 17:58:17
lol the 13 pick belongs to wpg jets?

15 Jun 2017 18:03:38
Doubt Carolina trades there top dman. Maybe Faulk or Hanfin.

15 Jun 2017 10:23:24
So there's a ''really strong rumour'' that there is a swap of players between Tampa Bay and Montreal.
Something like this is what I've heard.

Montreal:
- Johnathan Drouin

- 3rd round pick

Tampa Bay:

- Alex Galchenyuk

- 1st

This doesn't make sense to me. But it might for you.

Also; the source is NOT credible.

15 Jun 2017 12:20:24
What I saw was Drouin for Chuck + 1st.

I know people might disagree and I admit the value is most likely there, BUT from TB perspective I'd still say no and here is why: TB needs Drouins playmaking and creating ability way more than they need Galchenyuk who's more of a shooter (as evidenced by hitting 30 goal but not 30 assist plateau) . Their contracts should be around the same I guess. And the 1st will be a mid-late first, so I'd prefer keeping Drouin from a needs-standpoint.

15 Jun 2017 17:28:05
Yeah no way Tampa does either trade.

16 Jun 2017 23:07:10
I could see the players being traded one for one without picks involved. Bergie's too stingy to give a 1st away with Gally.

13 Jun 2017 01:32:55
WIN: trouba, connor

TB: drouin, Johnson

Good trade?

13 Jun 2017 10:47:44
Pretty solid, i'd say winnipeg adds around a 3rd because connor is still unproven at the nhl level.

13 Jun 2017 11:21:03
Good trade valuewise, but i can see Wpg wanting a LHD in return if they trade Trouba AND Connor. Tampa has not much to offer on that position.

13 Jun 2017 15:16:02
That looks like a decent value trade.
Good one!

13 Jun 2017 19:23:17
No- Jets have already their limit of smaller offensive forwards with Ehlers, Perrault, and Rosolovic.

plus value wise

Trouba > Drouin RHD vs Forward

Connor > Johnson Age and potential.

14 Jun 2017 02:07:46
Yea but you can say that

Drouin>Connor

Trouba>johnson

Drouin is NHL proven and has an amazing potential if you see him play and Connor is unproven so that might bring his value down a bit and also I think this depends on the contract Drouin and Johnson r getting.

14 Jun 2017 21:20:26
Not bad, good post!

12 Jun 2017 03:36:15
LA Kings Offseason:

Make trade before the expansion deadline:

Kings:
Gaborik

Buffalo:
3rd RP, 4th RP, Justin Kea

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Expansion Deal:

Vegas takes Brown and Vegas also gets Buffalo's 3rd and Kings 2nd

Protection List (not necessary) :
- Kopitar
- Carter
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Doughty
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- McNabb
- Quick

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Draft Michael Rasmussen

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Current Lineup:

? - Kopitar - Toffoli
Pearson - Carter -?
Kempe - Lewis -?
Nolan - Shore - Clifford
Dowd - Andreoff

Muzzin - Doughty
Martinez - McNabb
Forbert - LaDue
Gravel

Quick
Zatkoff

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Trade:
Kings:
Martinez
2nd RP 2018

Tampa:
Drouin

Sign Drouin 5yr/ 25m (5 AAV)
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Sign TJ Oshie 5yrs/ 30m (5 AAV)
Sign Justin Williams 1yr/ 3m
Sign Shattekirk 6yr/ 36m (6 AAV)

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2017-18 Roster:

Drouin - Kopitar - Toffoli
Pearson - Carter - Oshie
Kempe - Lewis -William
Nolan - Shore - Clifford
Andreoff - Dowd

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - Shattenkirk
Forbert - LaDue
Gravel

Quick
Zatkoff

This should be a faster, more offensively potent team that should see themselves back in the playoffs.

12 Jun 2017 05:20:49
Lol like in your dreams.

12 Jun 2017 05:23:36
Gabor has a horrible contract kings have to give a second and 3rd for buffalo to take his contract.

12 Jun 2017 05:24:59
Martinez and 2nd for drouin try again bud add a first to that and maybe that's coming from a habs fan.

12 Jun 2017 14:19:08
This is such a fantasy.

06 Jun 2017 18:06:22
Buffalo taking calls on E. Kane.

Drouin talks with Tampa are at a stand still and teams know, And are calling about him.

LA Kings are showing interest in both. They are trying to get some more scoring I keep reading.
Could make Muzzin or Martinez available.

06 Jun 2017 18:50:45
I could see the Kings making those 2 available. They need some changes in LA forsure. I think only Quick, Doughty and Kopitar are secure, anyone else could probably be available.

06 Jun 2017 22:59:29
I'd say Quick and Doughty are secure and maybe Tofolli as well. But I'm thinking Kopitar could be move for a good package from a team who need some a number one center. Maybe Kopitar for Chuck and Julsen.

06 Jun 2017 23:15:26
Wouldnt want Kopitar at his contract.

07 Jun 2017 01:59:03
Kopitar for only Galchenyuk and Juulsen holy Christ that's horrible.

07 Jun 2017 03:24:59
Kings wouldn't move kopitar if that's all they get. Just committed to him for 8 years and put the C on him. A worse centre and decent prospect doesn't sway them to abandon the core.

07 Jun 2017 04:28:18
Vancouver and LAK are talking to Buffalo about E. Kane.
Buffalo wants to move him. Owner and wide were not happy what so ever with his partying last June when the draft and everyone from around th NHL were in town.

07 Jun 2017 04:28:35
Send him to Vegas! Screw it. Would be entertaining. Lol.

05 Jun 2017 22:44:32
Jonathan Drouin + Ryan Callahan + 2017 2nd Round Pick + 2017 4th Round Pick to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for Ivan Provorov + Andrew MacDonald (Retention of 20%, or 1 million)

Savings of $1.8 million between MacDonald and Callahan for Tampa Bay,
Because of the retention and the NMC on Callahan, Tampa Bay adds a pick, however, due to Callahan being better than MacDonald, the pick is limited to a second rounder.

- Philly does it to add that top line winger next to Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek, possibly kickstarting them bith after an abysmal year.
- Losing Prov does hurt, however, the Flyers abundance of defenseman minimizes the pain.
- Tampa Bay does it to eleviate themseleves of a lot of money owed to Ryan Callahan. Both the contracts of MacDonald and Callahan end in three years, so term is not an issue
- Trading Drouin will sting, however, with his contract up for renewal, he will want todollar, possibky northwards of 5.5 million on a short term deal, with upwards of 6. in the future. If he opts for a long term deal at the moment, it would definetly be at a cost of over 6 million, cap space which Tampa Bay simply cannot afford to spend on him, with Hedman and Stamkos locked down, and Kucherov wanting at least 7 million in two years time. And remember, Drouin is not afraid to voice his opinion. He sat out in the AHL after he was sent down, so if he wasn't able to get the exact return for dollar that he wanted, he may sit.
- Although it is a sting to trade Drouin, Tampa Bay is acquiring a top notch dman to play alongside Victor Hedman for the forseeable future, and although Drouin may be unlikely to be traded, he offers the maximum trade vakue of the RFAs that Tampa Bay has. With their need for a dman, trading Drouin for a good one only makes sense.

Expansion draft lists;

Philly;
- (NMC) Claude Giroux
- (NMC) Ryan Callahan
- Jakub Voracek
- Jonathan Drouin
- Sean Couturier
- Wayne Simmonds
- Brayden Schenn
- Shayne Gostisbhere
- Radko Gudas
- Brandon Manning
Attempt to get Val Filppula to waive his NMC. If not, trade him to a team that he wants to go to. If not, buy him out.

Tampa Bay;
- (NMC) Steven Stamkos
- Nikita Kucherov
- Tyler Johnson
- Ondrej Palat
- Alex Killorn
- Vladislav Namestnikov
- Cedric Paquette
- (NMC) Victor Hedman
- Anton Stralman
- and a choice between Slater Koekoek or Andrej Sustr.

May be a hard trade for Philly to make, due to the movement of Val, but idk. Would the trade work?

06 Jun 2017 00:47:26
I actually have a better idea regarding Val and Philly and Vegas.
Philly trades the pick acquired from Tampa Bay (4th Rounder) to Vegas in exchange for them to not select Val Filppula in the expansion draft, if he is made available.

Philadelphia then tells Val this, and he subsequently waives his NTC. A 4th should be more than enough to not make Vegas take Val, cause they can take another player, and they also avoid Val's salary.

The reason I suggest this, is because Val may not be comfortable with waiving his NTC without confirmation that he won't be selected. With this kind of confirmation, he would be free to waive his NTC without worry.

06 Jun 2017 01:11:16
Prov will not be traded imo.

06 Jun 2017 03:03:26
Philly won't move prov.

06 Jun 2017 03:38:14
I doubt Philly will let Provorov leave, especially when they can get a Hischier or Patrick with #2. Value wise it makes sense but with Phillys good luck in the draft lottery I don't see this happening.

06 Jun 2017 12:55:09
Philly won't move Prov. Saving 1.8 mill isn't worth a second especially when giving up the better cap dump. I've heard tampa is currently trying to use a second to dump Callahan, not just a small portion.

 
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