30 Nov 2018 09:03:27
Mtl: Petry

Toronto: Gardiner(UFA)

1 for 1 position need based trade. Imo the fact that Petry is two years older but a RHD and he's on a good contract for another 4 years equals out the fact that Gardiner is a really good defensemen as well

1.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 11:24:06
I don't.

2.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 11:24:25
No way Montreal does this deal.

3.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 11:25:38
No way Montreal gives petry on a good contract for a defenseman who's an adventure in his own end.

4.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 12:46:48
THe leafs don’t need any more American pricks.

5.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 14:20:42
why would leafs do this and downgrade? gardiner>petry.

6.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 14:48:40
Gardiner>>>>>>Petry.

7.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 16:09:20
Gardiner is a ufa. We can sign him in the off-season. Toronto might not be able to. No rush for Montreal to trade for him. Toronto would rather keep him for the playoff run however marginally better he is. Petry is pretty under rated. Gardiner might be over rated.

8.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 16:41:02
@FireBergevin, you could sign him in the offseason, if him and his agent even grant Bergevin a meeting or return a phone call, but we all know that’s been a lot to ask lately lol.

9.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 17:00:55
He actually a humble one Leafs17.

10.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 17:09:35
You’re right Jim. But on that note. If we trade a defenseman on a contract for a ufa that wouldn’t sign with us in free agency. He would just go to free agency anyways. Either way no point of giving up an asset for him.

11.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 17:54:48
I agree lol I’m just busting balls on that. Makes no sense for you guys, makes a bit of sense for leafs, but if we are tying up $5+ mill on a Dman for 3 more years I would either want him to be better than Petry or younger where he could be effective for longer and maybe grow to outperform his contract. Not saying Petrys not good, just we would have to be stingy with cap which is why we would let a Dman like Jake walk in the first place.

12.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 18:01:32
@pkane, the logic in leafs doing this would be our RHD is a lot weaker than LHD and also it would be a cost controlled asset. It’s like why hawks traded panarin for saad. Hawks were up against the cap and panarin was due for a massive raise soon and saad isn’t as good but had term left at a manageable number, it’s the cost of having good players in a hard cap league.

13.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 18:20:34
@unbiasedjim

I thought Panarin was signed first and then traded? I always just figured Chicago traded him for the same reason Columbus wants to trade him now: because he would only take 2 year deals?

14.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 18:50:32
Panarin was signed Dec 28, 2016, and was traded June 2017. He was signed for $6M, same as Saad. So saving money couldn’t have been the reason Panarin was traded.

15.) 30 Nov 2018
30 Nov 2018 21:49:46
I was just f’n with you Sosa, I like Petry.

16.) 01 Dec 2018
30 Nov 2018 23:09:34
Lol. I know buddy. Plus. Would jus be trading one Yankee for another.

17.) 01 Dec 2018
30 Nov 2018 23:46:04
It was a trade to save money. I’m not just saying that, it was known at the time. They traded him knowing that 2 year deal walked him into UFA when they couldn’t keep him. He made the same as saad now, but saad still makes that going forward as where panarin is making far more starting July 1 and some people saying 10mill range. It was a move for cap situation and cost certainty. Not saying it was a good move, just that was atleast part of the thought process at the time.

18.) 01 Dec 2018
01 Dec 2018 04:06:27
@jim

Do you think Panarin only wanting to accept short term deals is so he can maximize his return? Or is it because he sees too much uncertainty in Chicago and Columbus that he is unwilling to tie himself long term to these teams?

I mean, most guys are looking for the security of a long term deal. And at his age, Panarin is now over the average age in NHL. It’s a bit of a gamble not taking that multi-year long term deal to secure his future?

19.) 01 Dec 2018
01 Dec 2018 05:30:41
A 2 year deal walked him into free agency and yeah, shorter term makes him more money as long as he stays healthy and productive. I’m sure this time if he gets offers from a team he’s interested in (apparently a city with modelling opportunity for his girlfriend) then he will take the security and massive pay day.

20.) 01 Dec 2018
01 Dec 2018 21:33:34
Jim is right, Saad and panarin make the same, but saad signed for think 3-4 years longer, thought was kane could play with anyone and be productive but needed toews a linemate and had previously had success with saad, horrible trade imo, rumored that he'd like a trade back to Chicago so maybe would take a little pay cut to stay, never know now.

21.) 03 Dec 2018
03 Dec 2018 12:53:12
Leafs wouldn't go for it. Petry i think would look good for them, but he is too old. Gardner could do well with Weber and hopefully learn from him as well.

22.) 14 Dec 2018
14 Dec 2018 15:22:30
petry and Gardiner are both lazy asses in their own end . Muck or Smuck what's the difference.