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22 Nov 2017 08:21:38
Tor: Weber
Mtl: marner + 5th 2018

Col: Pacioretty + juulsen
Mtl: Barrie + 1st 2018 + 4th 2018

Edm: Price + Galchenyuk
Mtl: RNH + Nurse

Vegas: MCcarron + Davidson + 2nd 2018 + 5th 2018
Mtl: Perron

Drouin RNH marner
Lehky danault gally
Hudon pleky perron
Scherbak shaw byron

Barrie alzner
Nurse petry
Mete Benn/morrow/schlemko

Pretty reasonable trades, toronto gets top Dman and solves signing 3 young kids next season, colorado gets scoring winger and d prospect, edmonton gets needed goalie and winger, vegas get future help/ picks for rental. Thoughts?

22 Nov 2017 11:49:04
big no from tor.

22 Nov 2017 12:25:17
Np from mtl Marner is exactly what we don't need. Another fragile winger.

19 Nov 2017 13:32:13
Col: Landerscog, Guetto

Phil: Ghost, Seinham

18 Nov 2017 15:17:59
Theoretical Avs trades:
Avs trade
Gabriel Landeskog

Leafs trade
William Nylander
Kasperi Kapanen
Nikita Zaitsev
Jake Gardiner (50% retained)
2018 2nd
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Avs trade
Tyson Barrie

Stars trade
Alexander Radulov (50% retained)
2018 1st

18 Nov 2017 16:50:22
Trollllll.

18 Nov 2017 18:01:18
okay so now that I've seen this and other trades of yours, either you are a troll, horrible at evaluating players or just an idiot. sadly i'm leaning towards the third option.

18 Nov 2017 18:15:24
Holey. Nylander for Landeskog is already too much from Toronto. You high bud?

18 Nov 2017 20:57:28
Lol Landeskog for Nylander Kapanen Zaitsev Gardiner
You really must be high.

19 Nov 2017 00:00:16
Leafs add 🙉.

14 Nov 2017 20:06:11
Mtl: Galchenyuk
Col: Landeskog +2d

15 Nov 2017 00:17:03
Col landeskog edm puljujärvi.

15 Nov 2017 00:53:03
Edm Jesse puljujärvi

Col Gabriel landeskog.

15 Nov 2017 02:14:14
No picks necessary and if so it would be from not not colorado.

14 Nov 2017 21:12:06
I'm a habs fan and this is just not right. : (
Don't hate all of us.

14 Nov 2017 22:11:48
LOL! Hahahaha.

14 Nov 2017 23:06:22
That’s a good joke. thank you for thst.

14 Nov 2017 23:53:45
Why would colorado add? Habs add and if they were to trade landy it would be for a top 4 defencemen.

17 Nov 2017 11:00:33
no way in hell colorado does that or adds. montreal would be adding if anything.

14 Nov 2017 18:28:12
Here's a thought

To col : Phaneuf, dzingle

To ott : rantenen, 2nd in 2019

Rantenen is still relatively unproven yet he has shown chemistry with Duchene this season so far.

Duchene gets a former team mate to help him blend into ottawa and the sens recover a pick from Duchene trade plus unload Phaneuf contract.

Colorado gets a top four defenseman with leadership experience which they have more than enough cap space for now after shipping Duchene out, plus they get a top 6 roster forward to make up for rantenen.

14 Nov 2017 18:44:18
Colorado is rebuilding, they aren’t trading one of their top young players for a aging phaneuf and a 3rd line winger.

14 Nov 2017 19:01:48
Dzingle and rantenen are roughly the same age and relatively close in skill level. dzingle is capable of playing anywhere in top 9 including 1st or 2nd line minutes. he proved that last year. so Phaneuf shpuld be more than enough to make up for the slight difference between the two and a 2nd round pick next year.

Fyi Phaneuf is hardly old enough to be considered aging. if anything he's in his prime years.

14 Nov 2017 19:20:04
Lmao! Delusional. Colorado laughs at you! And
Phanuef won't waive his no trade for Colorado.

14 Nov 2017 19:30:46
Horrible my god.

14 Nov 2017 19:57:28
Wanna Rantanen. going to take at least Chabot + White.

14 Nov 2017 20:08:32
Dzingle and Rantanen are not the same.
Rantanen >> Dzingy.

15 Nov 2017 00:25:27
Oh man. This is so bad for COL. we're never getting rid of Dion's contract unless Dorion takes advantage of some GM desperate for D and has lots of cap space (and is dumb as hell) - (unlikely)

14 Nov 2017 21:18:52
Have you ever seen Rantanen play? I mean you can’t spell his name right, he has not played in the same line as Duchene ever I think, at least not this season (he is on the same line as MacKinnon and has been so since he joined the NHL) and you think he is an unproven guy on the same level as Ryan Dzingel?

14 Nov 2017 21:34:28
Rantanen>>>>>>Dzingel.

Phaneuf is worth a 2nd at best.


Horrible for Colorado.

14 Nov 2017 22:13:04
At least, Chabot AND White for Rantanen? Man you don't know anything HHB. Just dumb.

14 Nov 2017 23:11:42
Are you aging new, dzingel is like 25 or 26 and has peaked as a nhl player. Rantenen is 21 still has loads of potential and is 4 years younger and is already better than dzingel.

14 Nov 2017 23:16:26
Rantanen (10th overall) 21 years old 6’4 211 pounds
AHL - 56gp 24g 38a 62p
NHL - 100gp 25g 26a 51p

Dzingel (7th rounder) 25 yrs old 6’0 180 pounds
AHL - 119gp 31g 46a 77p
NHL - 127gp 22g 25a 47p

. virtually identical hahaha.

14 Nov 2017 23:26:26
Leafs trade garret sparks for Matt Murray.

I know Murray is younger. I know he was drafted 4 rounds higher, I know he has been better at every level but I value them the same, so pens should do it lol come on.

15 Nov 2017 04:42:04
Senskill. try doing a proposal not involving the sens, they're all really really bad.

07 Nov 2017 01:53:07
2 3-way trades

Canadiens Acquire:
• Josh Manson
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers Acquire:
• Brendan Gallagher

Ducks Acquire:
• Alex Galchenyuk

#2

Canadiens Acquire:
• Sam Bennett
• Nail Yakupov

Flames Acquire:
• Artukki Lekhonen

Avalanche Acquire:
• Noah Juulsen
• 7th Round Pick

Pacioretty - RNH - Drouin
Bennett - Danault - Yakupov
Hudon - Plekanec - Shaw
Byron - McCarron - Hemsky

Mete - Weber
Alznar - Manson
Benn - Petry

07 Nov 2017 02:29:51
You are a flamer.

07 Nov 2017 04:26:23
Ok coiler whatever you say

07 Nov 2017 12:10:23
The first is good but the second is horrible for other teams.

07 Nov 2017 16:16:53
So Colorado gets juulsen and a pick for yakupov? I know sakic did well on the Duchene one, but the guys not a magician.

07 Nov 2017 18:10:05
Oilers and ducks say no to trade one, canadiens and flames should stay away from trade two. you're a flames fan, would you serioisly trade bennett for lehkonen straight up? Just checking.

06 Nov 2017 08:28:29
Col: Girard, 1 Rd pick Ott, one of nsh forward second rounder prospect, Bowers, 2 Rd pick Nsh

Ott: Dushene

Nsh: Turris

OK so this imo about the trade.I think 2 teams did very well.they paid a fair price for things they both wanted. the team overpaid for something they really needed.So Ottawa is the loser of the trade imo. Yes, Dushene is good but good enough to give up one basically 3 first round picks and a second rounder? Turris, Bowers and the first is already enough.

The second makes it very one sided.So basically Ottawa paid a premium FOR Dushene. Col got more then what I thought fr HIM. Girard and Bowers is already closest in value for him imo. A first and a prospect plus a second round pick? Wow amazing value.And Nsh paid 2 guy they drafted in second round for a good center they signed too so they paid just what he was worth.Ott paid premium un. SO OTT LOSSES AND Cool and Nsh wins

06 Nov 2017 18:14:25
Sens sent a first and 3rd. Not a second. And preds didn’t only pay 2 guys they got in the 2nd round. They also gave a 2nd round pick. So re think who over paid and who got value.

06 Nov 2017 18:42:45
Nashville ponied up the 2nd, Ottawa the 3rd. Ottawa cleared up an extra roster spot by moving Hammond. Using your method Nahville paid 3 2nd rounders for Turris.

10 Nov 2017 12:47:45
The Sens couldn't resign Turris for 7 or 8 years at 6.5, Hammond had to go, Bowers was a 1st rounder but wouldn't have have had any chance moving up with Chabot, Harpur coming up. Last years rumour had Ottawa paying more than what they just did. Duchene wants to play here and Karlsson will both probably interested in re-signing because of this upgrade. IMO Ottawa does very well, Nas does OK but pays a bit more and Colorado wins.

11 Nov 2017 00:37:31
Ottawa got shafted huge with no lube.

Essentially they paid a guy who's just as good as Duchene in turris, plus the 1st, the 3rd, bowers (who was a 1st himself), and Hammond (only good loss) . just to get Duchene. that's insane. Dorian needs to be fired with the dumb trades he keeps making.

12 Nov 2017 19:32:41
I think hawks18 assessment is alittle off considering everything that nashville paid to ottawa for turris was thrown to colorado, on top of this ottawa throws in a late first and third pick, a prospect and a cap dump. to a certain extent i kind of agree with senskill for the first time ever, it was a lot for the sens to pay i'm thinking a piece of the nashville trade should have stayed. At the end of the day i feel ottawa's getting the best player out of the deal, duchene is an exciting player and i'm looking forward to seeing what magic he can create with hoff, stone, karl and the boys.

13 Nov 2017 17:33:21
Time will tell. I also think Karlsson walks next year if Dorion doesn't make any moves. I liked Turris too. Still wish all the players well. Obviously the Avs won the deal. I think Dorion is following well into Murray's footsteps because again the Sens give more than what comes back to them. Like Facelift39 says. I can't wait to see the magic the Sens will have.

06 Nov 2017 00:22:32
Wpg: Trouba
Col: Duchene

With Wpg's already expensive dcorp and Trouba playing his cards close to his chest this may be the Jets best opportunity for a high quality return if Trouba bridges his final two years of rfa. Poolman has shown himself NHL ready but waiver exempt. Jets bottom 6 has not been scoring consistently. Duchene in the Jets top nine would create 3 scoring lines. Jets could add ie Petan or Dano or a draft pick but probably not much more I think. In the end close to the same cap cost.

06 Nov 2017 04:01:59
Impossible bro . Duchene is gone for good.

06 Nov 2017 04:10:41
Posted this hours ago. my timing's impeccable.

06 Nov 2017 01:32:32
Confirmed trade*

Ottawa trades turris, hammond, prospect bowers, a 1st and 3rd in exchange for duchene

Nashville trades two prospects girard and kamenev and a 3rd in exchange for turris (with extension-6yrs 36m)

Colorado trades duchene in exchange for hammond, girard, kamenev and a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

06 Nov 2017 03:47:42
Sakic did absolutely amazing, nashville did a really good trade Ottawa gave up way too much!

06 Nov 2017 04:08:45
Honestly Pierre Dorion isn't the smartest GM in the NHL
He gave up a first and Turris to get Duchene
He also traded Dahlin (possibly to 9/ 6 forward) for Burrows
And he traded Brassard for Zibanejad who is now Nyr 1st center.

06 Nov 2017 04:19:06
Lol. It's a good trade all around. Sakic did not do "absolutely amazing" Pick and prospects are unproven. Will know in a few years.

06 Nov 2017 04:34:09
Dorian essentially gave up two 1st a 3rd andrew Hammond and kyle turris to get duchene who is really not any better then turris lol.

06 Nov 2017 07:01:04
Easy no Habs fans. You have MB at the throne. Can't make fun of any other teams GM when he's your guy.
This Duchene trade isn't as bad as you guys are making it out to be.
Good deal all around for all teams.

06 Nov 2017 08:09:11
I think nashville did alright. ottawa didn't give away chabot, white, brown or any roster defencemen and the 1st rounder will be a late one.
Colorado on the other hand didn't get anything near what i thought the ask was, still no top 4 defence.

06 Nov 2017 12:28:33
Yes yup and you guys have chirelli lol. What's your point? Stop trying to make yourself believe everything is all peachy in edmonton.

06 Nov 2017 17:23:15
Edmonton has chirelli and ottawa has dorion yes. but to compare them to marc bergevin you would have to be retarded.

06 Nov 2017 18:41:40
Facelift you shouldn't use that word. But anyway I'm fine with my gm. I mean he was smart enough not to give up what it took to get duchene. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make.

06 Nov 2017 21:48:16
My apologies habby.
With the canadiens trading away sergachev for drouin, pk for weber, andrighetti for martunsen, beaulieu for a 3rd, and draft picks for ott and dwight king, not to mention letting radulov, markov, emelin and dubnyk all walk for nothing and the likes of price, patches, galchenyuk, shaw, plekanec all swirl through the rumor mill i have a hard time believing there's a move out there bergevin wouldn't make.

07 Nov 2017 03:26:55
Radulov going does sting a little I won't lie. I do think they made a reasonable effort to resign him but he decided on Dallas. i actually love the drouin and subban deals so maybe that's where our opinions differ mostly. the ghetto deal looks awful I agree but he had a load of opportunities to break out with the habs and never did and would have probably been lost on waivers if they didn't trade him. and dubnyk? Come on did he even play a game here? every team has lost players and traded players who gave gone elsewhere and played better. but a lot of times keeping them means you lose someone else who are already playing well for you.

06 Nov 2017 00:56:28
confirmed trade!

Ottawa gets: Matt Duchene
Nashville gets: Kyle Turris
Colorado gets: prospects Samuel Girard, Vladislav Kamenev and a second-round pick from the Predators, and forward Shane Bowers, goaltender Andrew Hammond and a first- and third-round pick from the Senators.

thoughts on this deal?

06 Nov 2017 00:22:32
Wpg: Trouba
Col: Duchene

With Wpg's already expensive dcorp and Trouba playing his cards close to his chest this may be the Jets best opportunity for a high quality return if Trouba bridges his final two years of rfa. Poolman has shown himself NHL ready but waiver exempt. Jets bottom 6 has not been scoring consistently. Duchene in the Jets top nine would create 3 scoring lines. Jets could add ie Petan or Dano or a draft pick but probably not much more I think. In the end close to the same cap cost.

03 Nov 2017 12:11:20
Apparently Sakic will add Zadorov to a Duchene deal and who knows he'll probably value him just as much as duchene lol but here it goes

Flames Acquire:
• Matt Duchene
• Nikita Zadorov

Avalanche Acquire:
• Dougie Hamilton
• Rasmus Andersson
• Sam Bennett

03 Nov 2017 13:51:59
If I was Calgary I would make Hamilton pretty much the untouchable on the Blue line. Giordano is getting older. Brodie is not the complete guy Hamilton is. and Hamilton can be your anchor on D for next 10 years.
He may nwver win a Norris. But he's developing into a top tier D man.

03 Nov 2017 14:01:41
first of all, learn how to spell. is it dusty in here or is it just me? Gio is a beauty is he isn't even old, learn how to count.

03 Nov 2017 19:03:23
I agree that the Flames need to keep Hamilton. Duchesne would really help them but they can’t afford that trade.

03 Nov 2017 20:07:32
Gio is 34.thats pretty old for a hockey player.

03 Nov 2017 20:20:29
I think Brodin for Duchene is good but it's way to mucH for Calgary to give up.

03 Nov 2017 20:46:13
I’m just confused about who Pedrojr is talking about.? The spelling seems pretty dead on in the 2 above his comment, and yet his punctuation and grammar is terrible.

04 Nov 2017 20:23:46
Is he isn’t what Pedro?

04 Nov 2017 20:25:10
Pedro, you say learn how to spell to Sosa, who is French-Canadian as i presume, yet your grammar is 'Giordano is a beauty is he isn't even old'. What is that? This is a hockey blog site, not a spelling website. Go back to your hole in the ground.

04 Nov 2017 23:58:32
Not likely d Hamilton calgary won't art with.

03 Nov 2017 00:08:12
Avs: duchene
Canucks: joelevi and erikkson retain half of salary.

03 Nov 2017 03:04:57
Sakic would ask for Juolevi + Tanev + prospect/pick lol. Sounds dumb but so is sakic

03 Nov 2017 03:14:02
Big no from Colorado.

03 Nov 2017 05:18:04
Huge no from Vancouver. Defense pool is already weak as it is so makes no sense from Vancouver.

02 Nov 2017 07:15:34
Saw this online wanted to know what u guys thought:

COL: Matt Duchene

CBJ: Ryan Murray, Sonny Milano and 2018 2nd round pick.

02 Nov 2017 13:03:48
too much from clb for sure imo.

01 Nov 2017 06:58:31
Mtl:Chuck,2rd pick

Col: Dushene

Both player who are very talented and very good scorer but they both need new homes.I honestly think kDihsne has a little bit more blue I terms of talent but Chuck is younger and has been better I the last two full season so idk.They might be clost nel ugh that a second cover the difference

01 Nov 2017 17:50:38
Not enough and not what AVS are asking for.

01 Nov 2017 20:27:24
And you say other people have over valued players.
Wow.

29 Oct 2017 21:19:56
Ottawa: Dzingel, Claesson, 2nd

Colorado: Duchene

30 Oct 2017 15:13:21
Pree bad for Avs.

25 Oct 2017 16:50:22
HYPOTHETICAL

But let's say in this scenario, that the Golden Knights are actually in a playoff spot near Winter-Ish. Would this be a suitable trade to retain that position?

VGK - Matt Duchene, Joe Colborne, Chris Butler and Conditional 2019 4th Round Draft Pick (Becomes 3rd if Vegas makes playoffs)

COL - Vadim Shipachov, Shea Theodore, Griffin Reinhardt and 2018 1st Round Draft Pick


MTL - Jon Merrill and Pierre-Edouard Bellemare

VGK - Brandon Davidson and Andrew Shaw


Reasonings:

COL - They need to trade Duchene, he isn't happy and simply doesn't want to a part of Colorado anymore. As for the return, Shipachov could get an easy top 6 role with Colorado, as for Theodore and Reinhardt could easily make the weak defence that Colorado has. As for giving up purposes, they could easily say bye to Butler (used for VGK's 7th D) and Colborne who struggled at camp and is in AHL

MTL - They simply need to improve somewhere to get the team off the ground, getting a bonified defender in Merril maybe could help out Montreal, also a Frenchman in Bellemare could easily be beneficial for the bottom 6. For the return Shaw could be expendable due to forward depth, same with Davidson for D depth

VGK - Shipachov is simply too good for AHL, unless McPhee and Gallant come to see that, most suitable option would be that they have to trade him. Duchene would be that one part of the offence that could easily gel with Neal on the first line and bring the team to the playoffs, if that is what they are going for. Colborne could easily make the team as a depth scorer and Butler (for giving up Theodore and Reinhardt) is a perfect 7th or 8th defender. Giving up Reinhardt is a no brainer, he needs a fresh start and if he won't play with Vegas he can get that somewhere else, but with Brannstrom coming up that makes Theodore some-what expendable, and for the return should be enough to give him up. As for giving up Merril and Bellemare. Vegas simply has too much bottom 6 forwards, and defenders as a whole. Sending Davidson to the minors would probably be best to takeover Theodore's spot, but Shaw could make an impact in the bottom 6, or possibly middle 6.


Lines: (Based on Left Wing Lock)

Neal - Duchene - Tuch
Smith - Marchessault - Karlsson
Perron - Eakin - Colborne
Leipsic - Shaw - Carrier / Lindberg

Sbisa - Schmidt
Engelland - McNabb
Miller - Hunt / Garrison

Fleury
Subban.

25 Oct 2017 17:57:36
Theodore and their first will NOT be traded this year. They are building for the future.

25 Oct 2017 18:07:24
Even if they're in a playoff position, highly doubt they sacrifice young assets (Theodore, 1st) for a highly unlikely Cup run. Would be dumb, tbh.

25 Oct 2017 21:45:28
I agree with both above. McPhee isn't dumb. Not going to believe this team is for real. They've been impressive in a small sample size however he will not trade prospects and picks. Goes completely against what he has said for the last year.

Also usually a conditional pick gets downgraded if the team receiving the pick reaches their goal with the added players. Not sure why Colorado would have to pay a 3rd instead of a 4th if the players they give Vegas helps them into the playoffs. should be a 3rd becomes a 4th. either way, not going to happen.

26 Oct 2017 00:23:57
McPhee is dumb or at least he use to be. Clearly learned from his mistake of trading Forsberg for Erat. But I honestly don't see the Vegas making a lot of moves unless it is around moving out a dman.

24 Oct 2017 22:06:20
Random Thought:

Matt Duchene to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Max Pacioretty and Noah Juulsen.

Then,
Max Pacioretty to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for Alex DeBrincat and a 2018 1st Round Pick.

In all, Colorado gets a 1st, a young NHL player, and a prospect for Duchene, which is what they want.

Montreal gets a centre, which they need.

Chicago gets an affordable winger, which they could use.

Idk. Lol.

24 Oct 2017 23:50:28
Chicago won't do that trade. Not even a little.
Pac for this and next year or Dibs and a 1st for many many many years. Easy pass on that deal from Chicago.

25 Oct 2017 01:37:24
chicago wouldn't touch that with a 50 foot pole.

22 Oct 2017 20:30:10
habs fire bergivin

Mon: Patches
Washington: bowey or vrana + 2nd

Mon: Chucky
Colorado: 2 second round picks

Mon: Gallagher
Ottawa: Perron + 2nd

Montreal: Shaw + Fucale
Vegas: 3rd + clarkson

Montreal: Price (retained 50%)
Van: Demko + virtanen + 1st + subban

Montreal: Petry
New york: Day + 3rd

Just an idea if montreal decided to go in the path of a rebuild, are ANY of these trades realistic?

22 Oct 2017 21:23:46
Then trade the rest of the their players to the Australian national team for a golf ball. Habs get shafted in all of these. Whether people like it or not, Pacioretty is Ann elite winger when looking at the stats. Worth when more than Bowey or Vrana plus a low second. Even though his value is low, Chucky is worth more than two seconds. The Shaw trade is so bad I won’t even comment. Price is the greatest goalie in the world, even though this season he’s started off rough. He’s the face of the franchise, he’s not being trade for mediocre prospects, Demko and a pick. I don’t know enough about day to judge the last trade.

22 Oct 2017 21:49:27
HAHAHAHAHA I really hope you're joking.

22 Oct 2017 21:50:44
None of these would ever happen unless you were a gm in this league.

22 Oct 2017 22:19:53
Why do you hate habs so much?

22 Oct 2017 23:44:37
%50 retained on Price?
Are you kidding? Has to be the most uneducated thing I've ever heard. Montreal would NEVER retain %50 of that contract for that long. Would be so stupid.

23 Oct 2017 05:50:35
This is really bad. You say rebuild. However, this a Blow it up with a Nuke. be the year 2075 by the time they ever recovered from that.

23 Oct 2017 14:48:42
Then whoever the new gm is gets fired as we'll lol.

23 Oct 2017 18:53:42
Chucky for second? WTF.

23 Oct 2017 20:49:03
Well Habs if you could read it says 2 2nds.
Which is about what majority of the teams in the league would value him at the moment.

24 Oct 2017 00:15:56
A Fourth liner is worth 2 seconds? Haha.

24 Oct 2017 05:50:18
Well he's probably not worth much more Haha.

21 Oct 2017 21:30:45
Mtl:Galchenyuk,3 Rd pick 2018

Col: Gabe Landescog

Okay so 2 guy here with so much talents that have both been struggling to actually become what they where projected to be: Points per game winger= Landy and Mtls number 1 center= Chuck. Still think both players could still attain those goal or similar goal like in Chuck case not number one but a solid number two center who gets 60-70 points a season.Landy would bring size and a power forward to mtl.Chuck would bring more skills and play making abilities to a already solid group of forwards. No mtl isn't adding a ton on this.As they shouldn't. THEY ARE ALREADY CLOST IN VALUE. OF course I'm probably going to get lots of disagrees.

21 Oct 2017 23:27:35
Bruh lol.

22 Oct 2017 00:05:40
Mtl already got an offer for Henrique this summer so this is not enough for Mtl.

 
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