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17 Feb 2019 05:46:46
Edmonton trades RNH to Avalanche for Jost and Barrie

Colorado needs more offensive depth. Edmonton wants a puck moving defenseman. Jost gives us a forward back to replace RNH. Still young with lots of potential.

17 Feb 2019 06:23:59
Damn that’d be great but like jeez losing Nuge leaves such a huge hole it’s tough but that’s a really good offer for Nuge I don’t think Colorado would be too quick to even do that either.

17 Feb 2019 20:57:59
Thanks McJesus. I’m still pretty new at this. I know trading RNH depletes our own scoring depth, but we don’t really have any good trade pieces. We drafted too many busts.

18 Feb 2019 00:52:25
That’d be a good trade for oilers. Jost will be a very good scoring forward and Barrie is what the oilers have been after for the last year or so. Honestly I think it’s too much from Colorado, given jost’ age and ceiling I think they (col) should hang on to him, if they are to trade him I think they’d want someone who is a bit younger and more of an offensive threat than Hopkins. Nothing against Hopkins but if scoring is what Colorado is after than I think jost will be a better scorer than Hopkins and with maker and Timmins making the team next year I don’t think this trade will make them better.

18 Feb 2019 09:14:15
No from Colorado the fact you think this is even clost Mcjesus it shows your true biased.

20 Feb 2019 14:52:15
dont trade jost for rnh who doing nothing with offensive team. and i think barrie will stay avs for long time.

16 Feb 2019 02:26:16
Los Angles Kings Trade:
Ilya Kovalchuk (LW - [25% Retention] 4.70 Million x 3 Years)

Colorado Avalanche Trade:
Matt Nieto (LW - 1.95 Million x 2 Years)
Nicolas Meloche (D - 0.85 Million x 2 Years)
Conditional 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick [Condition: Pick is only transferred if Colorado qualifies for the 2019 Playoffs]

- Los Angeles gets value for Kovalchuk now, before he diminishes on the fading team. Nieto is a viable piece who could be traded in the future of the rebuild, and Meloche is a nice piece (former second rounder) .
- Colorado doesn’t give up too much to acquire a solid piece that really helps their depth. Beyond Rantanen/ MacK/ Landy, there isn’t much support, and they only take on appx. an extra 3 million in cap, which they can afford.

16 Feb 2019 14:44:50
I’d love to see Kovy in a New Jersey but I think he’d excel more in the East.

16 Feb 2019 21:22:30
Avalanche are out of playoffs. They are pursuing youth movement. I doubt they want old man Kovalchuk. If he couldn’t help LA playing with Kopitar and Carter, I fail to see him doing anything in Colorado playing with guys a lot less talented.

10 Feb 2019 15:13:06
Colorado Trades
TBarrie

Toronto Trades
Dermott
Bracco (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020

Thoughts?

10 Feb 2019 16:37:07
Seems like an overpayment. Is Barrie really that much better than Muzzin? Same term on the contract, and we got Muzzin for a 1st and a couple b-prospects.

09 Feb 2019 15:26:30
Trade option 1:

NYR: Namestikov + Vesey

for

COL: Shane Bowers + JT Compher

or

NYR: Namestikov

for

PIT: Hallander

09 Feb 2019 18:13:30
I can see the penguins trade happening, fair deal imo.

09 Feb 2019 23:03:31
Unless I’m missing something, then Bowers is still in Ottawa, so the first trade isn’t going to happen. The second trade could be a possibility if Penguins can afford it. Although Namestnikov does have an extra year on his contract still, so he’s not a true rental. Penguins might pass if they can’t afford to keep him next season. Look for a pending free agent instead.

10 Feb 2019 10:19:16
Bowers was part of the duchene deal, so he is in Colorado's system.

What about Rust and Hallander?

10 Feb 2019 15:25:54
Zamboni, Bowers was traded last year in the Duchene trade to Colorado.

08 Feb 2019 23:51:50
Colorado Trades
CWilson
EJohnson
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
FGauthier
Zaitsev
Bracco (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2019
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Trade Breakdown

CWilson, 6th Round Pick
-FGauthier, 4th Round Pick

EJohnson
-Zaitsev, Bracco, 2nd Round Pick

Thoughts?

09 Feb 2019 01:10:51
Johnson is pretty old and costs too much. If you think Zaitsev is overpaid, then Johnson is even more so. Now he’s over 30 could decline sharply. That’s $6M looks like slight overpayment now. In five years it will be a boat anchor.

08 Feb 2019 15:50:01
To Colorado: Huberdeau
To Florida: Barrie with contract extension + Tyson Jost and 1st 2020 round pick.

08 Feb 2019 16:24:12
I don’t think Florida takes this. Jost isn’t looking anything close to ever being that top line forward that Colorado hoped they were drafting, and Barrie is going to be very expensive to re-sign. Huberdeau has been a real stud for Florida’s offense. They love him there. I think they would rather keep him and maybe look at moving some more dead weight for futures and to free up salary to offer Panarin a fortune to come play there.

08 Feb 2019 17:55:58
If I'm Florida, I hang on to Huberdeau, Barkov and Ekblad. and everyone else can be had for the right price. possibly would even consider moving Ekblad for the proper return. but would keep Huberdeau forsure.

08 Feb 2019 18:11:31
since when did hubby have all this value lol.

09 Feb 2019 00:31:07
I mean he is a 50+ point player (almost 70 last year and already over 50 this year) whose 26 when next season starts, is very defensively responsible and signed at a good number for the next 4 years. Might not have this value but he has very significant value, if I had him it would take a lot for me to give him up.

08 Feb 2019 15:41:45
To Buffalo Tyson Barrie with extension contract
To colorado: 1st round pick

Buffalo still in race and they could trade another defensman to improve goalie or offence.

For Colorado Sakic still in rebuild process and with 3 1 round pick this year and probably 2 in top 10 choice, they will select a center and winger who can play next year.

Buffalo could push with that trade because they will have 2 other first round pick.

08 Feb 2019 16:27:45
Barrie is worth a lot more than a 1st. Especially with extension in place.

05 Feb 2019 17:49:49
3 way trade

Leafs trade Gardiner, 1st (2020), pick/ prospect
Leafs receive Pesce

Avs trade 1st, 2nd
Avs receive Gardiner

Carolina trades Pesce
Carolina receives 2x1st, 2nd, pick/ prospect

If you don’t think Pesce is worth all that, simply remove whatever excess Toronto is paying above value. The concept remains the same: Leafs manage to convert Gardiner into Pesce.

Why Leafs make the trade: the lose Gardiner’s and gain Pesce. Pretty straightforward.

Why Avs make this trade: Sakic must be panicking seeing the team slide out of playoffs. A move like this is not out of question. Avs have the extra picks they can afford this no problem.

Why Carolina makes this trade: they have so many defensemen, and looking to re-build on the fly, this move gives them a lot of picks they could really use.

05 Feb 2019 18:39:14
Pesce is worth Gardiner and a 1st? I don't think so.

05 Feb 2019 21:14:27
To carolina he's worth more then that I'd say. They have zero need for gardiner as he is a pending ufa that chances are wouldn't sign there anyway. And even if he did they already have hamilton faulk slavin who are each just as good or better then gardiner we'll he might be slightly better then faulk. But anyway unless Carolina has another deal in place to trade gardiner again for something really good they don't make this trade.

05 Feb 2019 21:16:52
Ok I think I have figured out what you wrote there carolina gets 2 1st a 2nd and a prospect and another pick for pesce. yeah I'd do that.

05 Feb 2019 22:45:08
I don't think avs trade a 1rst that could be a top 10 at this point for ufa gardiner.

06 Feb 2019 10:04:36
It's funny if you go to the leafs boards they actually pat each other on the backs for these type of proposals.

07 Feb 2019 16:26:32
Avs will not trade any of his 1st round picks.
Sakic knows that his team is too young right now to compete va winnipeg and nashville.
With this two 1st round and probably 1 or second overall pick, they will have an impact player + timmins + Makar. So he will wait 2 years and his team will fight for stanley cup.

04 Feb 2019 21:27:56
To Florida: Varlamov + 1 round pick col + Jost

To colorado: Huberdeau .

03 Feb 2019 16:03:50
Ok well Colorado has been linked to stone, Chicago to Duchene, and Edmonton has shown past interest in Ceci and could use dzingles speed with McDavid so.

Ott : stone, Paul, and San Jose's 2nd

Col : Ottawa's 1st this year

Also.

Ott : Duchene

Chi : Chicago's 1st this year, and Chicago 2nd this year, and Chicago 3rd this year

Also.

Ott : dzingle, Ceci, smith, brown

Edm : Edmontons 1st in 2020, Bouchard, and lucic

Condition to all 3 being Duchene, stone and dzingle all agree to avoid free agency and sign with new teams on the spot.

Then when lottery results determined (they pray to God they land Hughes) and

Ott : the later of their 2 picks Chicago or their own

Van : Quinn Hughes

But leave Bouchard and the Hughes boys in the juniors one more year and tank for Lafreniere, with 3 picks in 2020 better odds.

Best case scenario defence is then fixed with additions of Hughes and Bouchard to help Lajoie, chabot, and demelo. While offence looks like it can compete again with the farm coming up and joining with Lafreniere and Hughes. I know Dorian too stupid to pull this off but one can dream right? Lol

Stone added to the already dangerous Colorado top unit would be insane

Dzingle giving McDavid someone who can actually keep up with his speed would do wanders

And Duchene Toews 1 2 punch with Kane on the wing and a very possible return of panarin in offseason would likely put Chicago back where they belong in the top of the league discussion

In my oppinion that's a win for all teams involved

Ottawa down the road and long term and the other 3 in the hear and now with Edmonton long term with brown, short term with dzingle, and by the grace of God by losing Lucic contract.

03 Feb 2019 16:35:26
How do you add stone to Colorado’s top line? They already have 3 players on it. That’s why it’s a line. And it’s the best one out there. Colorado will not give them back their pick. Why would they?
And we won’t give you Bouchard or our 1st for that.
And why is panarin a very possible return to Chitown? All I’ve heard is he was really hurt the hawks traded him to begin with and is set on a New York team or Florida.
Vancouver just used a top 5 pick on Hughes and they’re trending upwards. Why would they gift him to the senators for the later of 2 picks?
Are all your posts like this? Or are you having an off day?

03 Feb 2019 16:48:02
OrangeBlood, his posts are always like thisz.

03 Feb 2019 16:48:58
Its going to cost you minimum Stone + Duchene to reacquire that 1st. Ain’t happening for just Stone.

03 Feb 2019 16:55:15
Hawks have no need for Duchene, if they go aftera bif fish it will be Panarin.

03 Feb 2019 18:16:21
Hahahaha wow this post is atrocious.

03 Feb 2019 18:38:00
Rambo, I knew you were delusional before, especially with all the times you’ve argued on here saying how you knew for certain this or that was going to happen, and they we’d all just have to wait and see, only for it not to happen like we all told you it wouldn’t.

But, you’ve seriously hit a new low if you think any of those trades work, ESPECIALLY the Vancouver one. The Canucks got so lucky when Hughes fell to seventh due to Montreal and Arizona taking centers, any other time and he’s a top 5 pick, and you want the Canucks to give him up for only ONE asset, and that asset being a first that’s likely not even in the top 10? Get out of here with that stupid rubbish, you’re serioirlsy delusional, get some help.

03 Feb 2019 20:18:18
All great trades. if your Ottawa. No way Chicago's able to afford panarin, and that's before you said get duchenne. didn't realize the cap was going up 15 million $ next year. And Chicago's 1sy 2nd and 3rd picks, that might be a top 3 overall pick depending on how the season finishes, just total non sense, other trades are completely ridiculous also.

03 Feb 2019 21:28:55
I just puked after reading this.

04 Feb 2019 11:07:09
Stone plus Duchene for our own first? Hahahahaha good one, stone is a 5 tool player and one of the best at that, fully signed his value alone is fairly close to a first overall at this point that still has a little under half a season to change its rank get real.

And the Chicago one has been mentioned throughout the year and by adding Duchene as well as making a pitch at panarin in offseason who wants to go back there anyway it makes that team stronger for it.

And orange blood, try reading the trade before making a dumb comment. Bouchard, at least for the next year, is Edmontons most valuable piece in this deal as the pick involved is next year's, not this year's meaning it likely won't be as good since chirelli no longer in charge. So.

Brown = Bouchard (Bouchard might be a tad more value)

Dzingle + Ceci = next years 1st

Smith contract vs Lucic contract (Edmonton should be on their hands and knees begging for someone to take Lucic)

04 Feb 2019 12:53:40
So your saying that top4 guarranteed is equivalent to Mark Stone? A top four player in the draft is at worse Brady Tkachuk level, and tbh, I’s rather have him than Stone due to age/ contract. With the chance of getting Hughes with that pick, its minimum Duch+Stone and I’m not kidding you.


Also Chicago won’t do that. They have enough cap hell witj seabrook and keith, they need youth not expensive prime players.

04 Feb 2019 15:59:30
Slappers what ever drugs you're taking I def want some, of course I like Brady bit I'll take stone over him any given day, unless you got a guaranteed Jack Hughes stone fully sign definitely has the value greater than anyone else in top 5 adding fully signed Duchene on top Colorado would have to add a conditional pick with the only condition being that the next time Colorado has a top 5 pick it goes to Ottawa too. you don't give up what sens did for Duchene and take back peanuts. Fully signed both guy are more than worth a top 5 pick by the trade deadline, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Acquiring those picks don't guarantee they will stay top 5 either, especially Chicago one, adding Duchene to Chicago would be a huge addition that can easily fix their standing, Duchene Kane together would destroy other teams defence.

And someone asked how stone fits in Colorado? Easy 2nd line for now, or first power play unit with Barrie Landy rants and Mack, also be sick pk guy as he is one of the best defensive forwards in the game, he would make available that much more dangerous, plus when current top 3 run dry on their chemistry you can split em up, rants and Mack on one line stoner and Landy on another for a 1 2 punch.

04 Feb 2019 19:54:49
Same old Rambo 😂

“And with the 1st pick of the 2019 NHL Draft, the Colorado Avalanche select. ”.

05 Feb 2019 04:51:35
Unsportsmanlike, this is exactly what I have been talking about all along about how you and your groupies here disrespect sens players and undervalue them.

According to the garbage you all have been posting since last year I have the evidence now. Duchene with a year and a half on his contract got what he got for Colorado that being a player in Turris who is nearly equal skill level (I say Turris because everything acquired for Turris went to Colorado) as well as a solid prospect in Bowers a 3rd and a backup goalie in Hammond, and a 1st from a projected weak end team, yet some how you all thought that was fair with exception of me.

Now I propose 2 trades basically 1 for one each while also stating that both men will be fully signed in these deals, Chicago first for Duchene which is still less value that what was initially traded for him on a contract that was ending as opposed to a full contract meaning a Duchene that should arguably be worth more than he was then as despite a bad team season his individual numbers have been better than ever yet somehow according to y'all he ain't even worth 1 top 5 pick? Get real dude.

Then you got stone who in many people's oppinion is actually better than Duchene also younger on top of that and considered a 5 tool player by some of the harshest critics and fully signed should be worth even more than Duchene seeing as how he is literally just starting his prime of his career, yet somehow he's not worth a single pick that doesn't give you more than a 15% chance at the one guy in the draft who is arguably worth more based on age alone in Jack Hughes? Really?

Hughes is great yes but the kid is strictly offence (so was Yakupov, how did that work out) he's got speed, great skating, great shot, great passing, but without the puck he needs work stone is one of the best with and without the puck, with his skating holding him back a tad bit not enough to hurt him, no doubt fully signed he's worth that pick at least.

It's painfully obvious how biased you all are against Ottawa as you can't even back up why you have their value ratings so low unless they are on other teams, on top of that neither carries the baggage EK and Hoffman did at time of their deals!

05 Feb 2019 11:20:29
Yeah Rambo get the tin foil hat on! It’s all a big anti-Sens conspiracy on this site — that’s why Sens players never get traded for anything close to what you propose in reality (I’ll “back that up” with specific historical examples in Karlsson and Hoffman ) — it has nothing to do with your room temperature IQ!

05 Feb 2019 13:18:02
Please unsportsmanlike bias, explain to me how 1.5 years of Duchene was worth what he got or even the proposals you all listed like for example white Chabot and a weak teams 1st and then some yet a proposal involving a fully signed (5+ years) Duchene for a top 5 pick (now, as adding Duchene will likely get them back on winning track) is not a fair deal for Chicago?

Or a fully signed stone (5+ years) who logs 60+ points anually with sub par line mates while being one of the best defensive forwards in the game today at age 26, and is proving this year that with a quality line mate I'll be it Duchene or tkechuck both of which he's played with so far he's a point a game plus guy, is somehow not worth a top 5 pick that could change at any time but even still only gives a 15% chance at jack Hughes?

Pretty sure a guaranteed 5 tool player as stated by critics and a guaranteed former number 3 overall who lives up to the hype that comes with that high a pick both signed long term carry more value than at the very minimum everyone else in top 5 picks this year and even in stones case a 15% chance at Hughes.

05 Feb 2019 13:27:08
Also I literally just mentioned EK and Hoffman and that Duchene and stone don't carry the same sort of baggage this full value and fully signed not tough to see.

05 Feb 2019 14:21:27
I have not posted any trade Ottawa proposals. Ever. So spare me from your nonsensical ramblings.

Let me know when Ottawa trades Karlsson for Sergachev, Point, and 2 firsts.

Just more of your delusional, biased posts.

We have a track record on this site of you getting called out for being completely out to lunch with your valuations, only to be proven comically wrong when the trades occurs and the return is no where near what you suggested. And here you are, back at it again. You are either hopelessly deluded from reality, or the site's greatest troll. In either case, debating with you would be a waste of time. So now I sit back and enjoy the laughs when you post.

06 Feb 2019 18:27:28
I don't post biased garbage like you do.

Stone is a perennial 60+ point guy playing with average at best line mates up till this year and still has been and continues to be one of the best defensive forwards in the league on top of that. Now playing with someone close to the same skill level and consistency he's over a point a game. He's also only 26 years old just starting his prime years. Fully signed 5+ years he's easily worth more than any possible draft pick outside jack hughes. And seeing as a trade must be reached by deadline that means the sens pick is only currently a 15% chance to land Hughes and those odds still have 20+ games to change completely.

Do the math unsportsmanlike, a guaranteed fully signed close to or right on point a game top 6 forward at 26 years old vs a CHANCE at a 15% CHANCE at jack hughes! Not too hard to see that stone himself carries more value let alone the addition of a 2nd and a decent prospect in Paul on top of that.

Then there is Duchene deal which is a bigger risk for Ottawa as he's almost as good as stone, and only 2 years older at age 28. Sure the Chicago pick is currently 5th overall but swapping it for Duchene all but guarantees that Chicago not only improves their standing and makes the pick worst but makes Chicago better long term. Duchene like stone, is better than any possible pick outside Hughes and most definitely far more valuable than any pick ranging 6 - 15, which is most likely where that pick would end up being after a deal like this.

Fact is I can back up what I view their values to be, and I don't believe you can even give a compelling reason why their values should be any less other than you don't like Ottawa and undervalue their talent. I've been waiting a few years now to hear any kind of logical explanation as to the value of these players according to everyone else and why but yet all I get is a bunch of trolls who can't give anything but a "your crazy" or a "you'll never get that"

Wake up and give any real reasoning or stop trolling, plain and simple!

07 Feb 2019 14:49:10
Your flawed and delusional opinions do not back up anything.

History has backed up what we have said on this site and proven you wrong every time (Karlsson not getting traded for anything close to what you assured us he would -- Sergachev, Point and 2 1sts; Hoffman getting traded for a can of beans like we told you he would given the circumstances despite you stomping your feet and pounding the table telling us we were all wrong) .

I'll take empirical evidence over your "reasoning" every day of the week, thanks. Those "trolls" telling you "you're crazy" and "you'll never get that" have been right every time. You have been proven wrong every time. The end.

By the way, Hughes isn't the only player that will be getting drafted this year. Ottawa is hot garbage and their first round pick may not be 1st overall, but it's going to be right up there. Better get used to the notion of another team using your first rounder kiddo.

09 Feb 2019 18:16:38
Are you blind to facts too unsportsmanlike? History in this one is most definitely on my side.

I said Duchene and stone both fully signed are worth the returns and then some I have listed here, do your research.

Duchene with 1.5 years left got Colorado everything from the Kyle Turris trade, plus hamond, a 3rd, a 1st, and Bowers (a 1st in his own right) .

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but a fully signed Duchene 1 year later who has clearly upped his own personal game since the trade is definitely worth more than a year and a half Duchene who wanted out anyway, that much is common sense, and the return I posted here doesn't even match the return Colorado got even if the 1st they got was last of first round instead of first at this point.

Take into account that stone is a better and more valuable piece than Duchene his trade value fully signed also exceeds that of a fully signed Duchene especially considering the guy is only 26 years old.

And still instead of backing your claims with actual evidence all you can do is attempt to down play my claims, open you eyes and ears instead of your mouth for once and actually do some research.

09 Feb 2019 18:33:09
And just for good measure.

As reported by Dave pagnotta, the asking price for stone and Duchene has been revealed.

A 1st round pick, a top tier prospect, and another top tier asset

Actual asking price e for each of them, and that's as is unsigned and rightfully so! Fully sign they are worth a lot more each and this type of package as is can be deemed equal to a top 5 pick as is so really the trades I posted are also undervaluing their worth if you want to look at it that way.

09 Feb 2019 19:34:35
Cool story — let me know when Duchene gets traded to Chicago for a lottery pick and when Stone gets traded to Colorado for Ottawa’s first. I’ll wait.

If that happens (newsflash — it won’t) I’ll gladly eat crow.

When it doesn’t, I’ll still be here laughing at you. Keep postiing kiddo, the world needs more laughter.

12 Feb 2019 23:47:29
They are exactly fully signed yet you goof, the trades I posted clearly state both men as fully signed, maybe if you closed your mouth, opened your eyes, and learned to read you'd see that, not saying the Chicago one isn't a possiblity fully signed or not but don't go putting words in my mouth to cover your own backside.

01 Feb 2019 18:58:46
To Colorado: Huberdeau
To Florida: Jost ans 1st rnd (col)
With that trade Florida will have $$$ to sign
Bobrovski and Panarin
Good trade for both team.

01 Feb 2019 20:03:44
Except Huberdeau would command more than that.

01 Feb 2019 23:01:03
You think Hubby is worth more than Jost and a 1st? your high bud.

02 Feb 2019 06:37:57
I also think Huberdeau is worth more.

03 Feb 2019 03:19:40
Considering Jost has taken a step back this year and Avs 1st doesn't look like it'll be top 10, unless they keep struggling hard, I'd rather have Hubs as well. Guys a stud.

31 Jan 2019 15:29:34
Colorado trade Jost
Philly: Simmonds.

31 Jan 2019 19:21:07
atleast put some effort into this like obviously huge no from colorado.

26 Jan 2019 03:01:32
Just a what if scenario between Colorado Avalanche and Florida Panthers, let me know what you guys think.

Now with Colorado in the playoff hunt and the big push, and Florida is basically day dreaming of a spot at this point, I think both teams should make a big trade.

Colorado gets Forward Henrik Borgstrom (former Denver Pioneer by the way), forward Nick Bjugstad, defenseman Mark Pysyk and Goalie James Reimer

Florida gets Goalie Phillip Grubauer (which is no longer even a proven backup and will not replace Semyon Varlamov at this point)

26 Jan 2019 05:05:00
with defenseman Nikita Zadorov and a 3rd round draft pick 2019.

So Colorado gets Borgstrom, Bjugstad, Reimer, Pysyk

Florida gets Grubauer, Zadorov, and a 3rd round draft pick

Thoughts?

26 Jan 2019 05:54:24
In all honesty florida doesn't even consider grubauer zadorov and a 3rd for just borgstrom.

26 Jan 2019 14:57:17
Agreed with Habby.

25 Jan 2019 05:56:45
Colorado trades: Timmins

Canucks trade: Gaudette

25 Jan 2019 06:20:05
No from colorado

25 Jan 2019 17:19:10
No from Vancouver.

22 Jan 2019 19:50:24
Colorado Trades
EJohnson

Toronto Trades
Zaitsev
Liljegren (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2019

EJohnson has never been the elite top Defenceman everyone though he was when Drafted 1st Overall and Colorado I believe would move him for the right price, this Trade Proposal really is the right type as they get an NHL Player a Prospect and a 1st Round Pick.

Leafs get what they are looking for getting EJohnson so no need to go into details why they would make this Trade.

Thoughts ?

22 Jan 2019 23:20:01
johnson has a nmc so he would have to waive it, but i think this is a decent trade for colorado as they are not yet ready to contend and get another 2 first round picks basically and then Zaitsev to balance the cap.

22 Jan 2019 23:20:18
Interesting, good post.

22 Jan 2019 23:20:49
"WHAT YEAR IS IT? " - Alan (Robin Williams in Jumanji)

Like I understand wanting Erik Johnson but that seems like an overpayment in giving up Liljegren.

He is not the same as his youth, so you will get an older version.

23 Jan 2019 02:33:06
I would be very cautious taking on Johnson. He could very easily enter steep decline the back half of that deal. Then we are stuck with another boat anchor contract, and lost our most promising prospect for that position.

07 Feb 2019 22:40:52
Erik Johnson isn't going anywhere. The transformation he has made in Colorado is amazing. He came here as an offensive minded dman. He has transitioned into a legitimate number 1 shut down dman. I mean no disrespect, in fact I find it strange no one has brought this up in media other than here in Colorado.

The last couple years, not this one, but previously it did get media attention that he got snubbed for All Stars games. He has matured better than I was ever hoping for, and the record proves it, when he's injured, they lose and vice versa. He is the heart of the D for sure.

Side notes: Varly needs to go. Earlier people were talking about Grubauer, he's not the future, Pavel Francouz is, he is a stud from czech republic, number 1 goalie in KHL last couple years. He only got in two games this season, allowed only 2 goals. Sakic told him he is in the plan before they sent him back to AHL, Sakic is very patient.

Zadorov is going to be great, but he's fallen out of favor with staff here, don't be surprised if he's on the block.

And about the Avs making a run at playoffs this year, not happening. They have lost all spark, looks like they're just going through the motions on the ice, breaks my heart to watch. Went from tied with Nashville going into December, now second to last in Central and can't put anything in the back of the net.

22 Jan 2019 14:32:16
Colorado Trades
EJohnson

Toronto Trades
Zaitsev
Liljegren (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2019

Cap difference is 1.5 million so long term it can work for the Leafs and they get a pretty good Vet RHanded Shooting Defenceman, Colorado gets a pretty good return for EJohnson that will only add to what they already have.

Thoughts ?

21 Jan 2019 23:35:37
Colorado:
2019 3rd round pick (Ottawa)
2020 2nd round pick
prospect C Igor Shvyryov

NY Rangers:
Kevin Hayes 5.175

2 picks and a prospect for a rental 2nd line center. Thoughts?

21 Jan 2019 23:50:54
Hayes gets more than that. Look more of a Shane Bowers + Avs 2019 1st. Or Jost +

Hayes will be the best center on the market if Duchene re-signs.

22 Jan 2019 02:36:20
Hayes gets more than that. But there's little to no way he hauls in Jost+. Could see a deal centralized a 1st and a smaller add, similar to Vermette before.

18 Jan 2019 18:52:06
To colorado : Parise
To Minessota : Jost and 3rd round ott

To rangers: 2nd round and kaut
To colorado zibanejad

Help min with their salary cap and colorado get a 2 line player to play with kerfoot and zibanejad.

18 Jan 2019 19:23:05
this is humorous.

18 Jan 2019 21:43:25
Minnesota is going to have to pay handsomely if they want to get rid of that Parise contract.

19 Jan 2019 00:32:29
if Minnesota wants to get rid of parise and get something of actual value they’d have to throw in add something like greenwood or Kunin. Even if they offered parise and Kunin for Jost Colorado still says no way! If it was that easy oilers would have long since traded Lucic.

19 Jan 2019 10:39:33
Parise is going very good this year tho so he might have value. I'd take him for free if I'm mtl.

16 Jan 2019 11:19:09
Imagine Avs pick one and two

Landskog Mackinnon ratanan
Kerfoot hughes kappo

16 Jan 2019 15:01:30
Assuming this is both Ottawa's pick and Colorado's if they don't make playoffs? If this were to happen that would be insanely not fair for rest of the league hahaha.

16 Jan 2019 16:50:13
Would that make them better then Tampa, Leafs And Jets?

16 Jan 2019 18:46:56
@vbb yes it would.

16 Jan 2019 20:41:02
Colorado has garbage goaltending and defense Is subpar.

16 Jan 2019 20:52:29
Goaltending is decent just hasn't been great this year and the defence is at least equal to toronto. The thing separating them from other teams right now is mostly forward depth which hughes and kakko makes up for almost immediately. Plus you know how this works when a team gathers enough talent and look like they are on the right path free agents are more willing to sign there. So IMO year 1 with this lineup may have some growing pains but they would be among the best very soon. Makar and Timmons coming along would instantly improve the blue line and this top six forward unit would potentially be the best in the league.

16 Jan 2019 20:53:29
Plus for a few years that top six will be much cheaper then the top six of the other teams you mentioned on top of being better.

17 Jan 2019 12:15:09
I’m not going to argue that adding those two players makes them significantly better, but do those 2 players add 50 points in the standings? Because that’s about how many points Colorado is on pace to finish behind Tampa right now. It’ll probably be closer to 30, but still that’s 15 wins to expect from 2 players seems a little much for me. It’s likely by the time Colorado develops into a real contender teams like Tampa will he on their downturn, they won’t instantly jump that far up even if they peak higher.

17 Jan 2019 16:04:36
If they got both hughes and kakko this year. In two seasons they would be the top team in the league IMO.

07 Feb 2019 16:49:26
VBBBVVBB - Actually the goaltending has really hurt the Avs the last couple months. I believe Varly is .88 save percentage and Grubbys isn't any better.

Trade Varly now while you might get something in return. Going into playoffs goalies get hurt, someone needs him (peffect example, both Avs goalies got hurt before and in playoffs last year, rolled with a third stringer and still took Preds to six games) Francouz is being whispered to be the future. (He's amazing)

12 Jan 2019 16:20:02
Boston: Ryan Donato, 2nd round pick

St. Louis: Brayden Schenn


NY Rangers: Mats Zuccarello

Colorado: Tyson Jost/(Alexander Kerfoot), Nikita Zadorov


NY Rangers: Mats Zuccarello

Carolina: 1st- and 3rd round pick

12 Jan 2019 18:08:32
Any trade that involves schenn, tarasenko, parayko, petro, will involve 1st 2019 pick.

12 Jan 2019 20:21:35
Way to much for Zucharello.

12 Jan 2019 20:29:37
My understanding is that Donato is a fairly highly rated prospect player. I was just reading something about him in an article the other day. The author of the article seemed to think Donato has some real potential.

With so many quality players available this year at the deadline, deterioration in time value until end of contract, and a dip in performance this year, I have a hard time seeing Schenn bring 2x1st back to Blues. You never know, there might be a team that thinks Schenn is the “must have” piece they need to win the cup. I have no idea what Schenn will go for obviously. He gets what someone is willing to pay. But at this point, I have a hard time seeing Blues.

 
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