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22 Jun 2018 08:20:18
Colorado trades: Barrie

Toronto trades: Nylander

Thoughts?

22 Jun 2018 13:59:14
Not a bad idea, I just think Nylander is scratching the surface of what he can be, barrie is what he is. He’s a good player and fits our need, so might have to over pay a bit. But I think I’d want something else coming back, could just be greed though. Also I believe Dubas is going to try to sign tavares (still a long shot obviously) and if he does, Nylander will be traded very soon after for D help.

22 Jun 2018 15:57:02
I would really doubt that JT goes to Toronto. I'm starting to think he is going to stay put.

22 Jun 2018 16:09:24
He’s either staying, going to T. O or San Jose.

22 Jun 2018 17:40:50
Yeah I’m not saying he will. But I do believe IF he leaves NYI, then Toronto has as good of chance as 2-3 other teams on a short list. It’s a good city, family close by, good team on the rise, nearly unlimited resources for facilities, nice home arena and practise rink, stable management and coach. Checks all the boxes. History says he stays, but if he leaves, I like our chances. Matthews/ tavares/ Kadri down the middle could be dominant and Centre depth can offset a need for high end defense that we don’t have (as proven by penguins)

22 Jun 2018 19:53:21
I think cap would be an issue. I live just outside of TO and really don't think he would sign here. If he moves, he goes somewhere that he would be the face of the franchise and make a lot of extra money on endorsements.

22 Jun 2018 21:27:18
He could be as marketed as he wants in Toronto. There’s so much opportunity for corporate sponsors wanting to attatch themselves to this version of the up and coming leafs that Matthews and marner couldn’t possibly take it all on. It’s not like other big cities with multiple league franchises like NY or something. Leafs players don’t have to battle blue jays and raptors for endorsements like rangers have to with Yankees and Giants etc. It’s leafs above all else here. Kessel didn’t want any of that stuff, so he didn’t take it on, but it was all there for him if he wanted it.

22 Jun 2018 22:12:22
He’d make the most from Endorsements from T. O it’s the largest market in the NHL if he signs there the fans would go crazy and he’d be known as a hero. It’s his home town and they definitely have the cap to sign all 4 but it’d probably be smart to trade Nylander if he signs. I did the math and it would work under the cap leaving around 4 million if they can sign the 4 for around 36 million Marner+ Nylander=12 million Mathews+Tavares=22 million.

23 Jun 2018 19:04:25
Colorado adds just a bit.

22 Jun 2018 05:12:02
Ott : Karlsson resigned long term, Ryan, and the 22nd overall

CBJ : werenski, panarin with at least a 2 year extension

Ottawa drafts zadina

Ottawa uses money freed from Ryan contract to at least make a serious pitch for Tavares

Panarin signs long enough to see if Ottawa is a good place for him or not and gives them a chance to showcase him and find a suitable trading partner if he doesn't want to stay. werenski will be like a poor and Karlsson in Ottawa and by bringing both in it does 2 things

1 - it shows tavarez we are serious about turning things around in Ottawa for the better and want to start winning again

And


2 - even without Tavares it still gives us a good chance to keep Colorado out of top 10 with our pick next season as I'm sure duchene and panarin together would be huge change in offense esp if you throw in stone or zadina on top

Go to town haters.

22 Jun 2018 05:34:01
Not worth it for Columbus imo lol.

22 Jun 2018 06:44:07
It’s your little comments that make us haters. Have you noticed the other Ottawa fans on this site are treated with respect?

22 Jun 2018 11:05:13
Really doubt Tavares leaves the island at all.

If he does, there is zero chance he would do so to go to Ottawa. ZERO.

Columbus says no anyways.

All I can say is that Colorado is loving all of this right now.

22 Jun 2018 11:30:50
Mcjesus why isn't it worth it for Columbus?

Ryan can do at least 70% of what panarin did for them, sure he's overpayed a bit but the 22nd overall compensates for that. Plus panarin already on record saying he's not going back to Columbus.

And werenski is no EK but he's up there and help in dealing with the loss of EK.

Imo they are the perfect trading partners at this time as Ottawa will need a defenceman and a low to mitigate the loss of Hoffman and possibly EK while columbus will need someone to pick up panarins load offensively plus it gets Karlsson further away from Hoffman. And besides that, no way Dorian takes peanuts for Karlsson like he did for hoffman as the fans will have his head on a stick if he does. Columbus is a winning team that Karlsson would likely be willing to go to as well.

22 Jun 2018 13:39:18
As a Jackets fan, no way. We're not taking Bobby Ryan's contract and essentially losing Panarin for just a late first and to upgrade Werenski for Karlsson. Karlsson is fantastic no doubt, but Werenski is just 20 years old and has great chemistry with Seth Jones, who finished 4th in Norris voting as a 23 year old. The two of them were arguably a top 5 pair in the league this year, and that was with Werenski injured all season.

22 Jun 2018 14:26:20
First of all this is all assuming Karlsson sees Columbus Ohio as his 1st choice to love for the next 9 years. 30 NHL cities which would all be interested on some level if he hits the market. He’s already had his career controlled for him in Ottawa up to this point, he’s not going to sign in Columbus a year earlier than he can atleast explore the thought of playing in Vegas, Edmonton, LA, NY, Toronto, Dallas or other Big market cities just to help the senators maximize his return lol he doesn’t like melnyk right back to the way Alfredsson was treated, I can assume he’s not a fan of Dorion and the way he’s handled (or ignored up to the last 2 weeks) the hell his family was put through. Being loyal and Helping the organization has been replaced by “what’s best for me” and I say good for him.

22 Jun 2018 14:39:39
Solid points by Specmence and Jim.

22 Jun 2018 16:12:14
Karlsson wouldn’t get Werneski straight up he’s 20 and already putting up close to 50 Points on a ELC. Karlsson will get an underwhelming return.

22 Jun 2018 22:53:20
How are those solid points by specmence unsportsmanlike?

1st of panarin already went on record saying he's done in Columbus at contracts end no matter what so losing him for nothing or as part of a deal that feels in Karlsson it's no question what the smart route would be and it's not letting him walk for nothing.

And vbbvbb you can certainly dream can't you? Karlsson hands down is worth double werenski value and you know it. yes werenski is a great 20 year old but nowhere near Karlsson value on his own. werenski = top 15 to 20 Defence in NHL
Karlsson = top 3 player in world
Huge difference.

22 Jun 2018 23:37:43
NoBiasRambo why are you lieing we all obviously no way more then you about everything ( not just hockey) what are you like 6? 7? Anyway Panirans agent said this “ our camp is not ready to discuss an extension at ( ( (this time) ) ) “ he can't even sign a contract until July the 1st he has a full year. Wow.

23 Jun 2018 03:08:06
Know way more* whoops.

19 Jun 2018 01:58:22
Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Colorado: Connor Timmons, 17th overall and Ottawa's 2019 1st

Ottawa- gets there pick back next year so they can push forward with a full rebuild and Connor Timmons looks like he is going to be the steal of the draft he took the heaviest work load on the U20 Canadian World Junior team and looked better then Makar. Colorado probably dosent want to trade him but in order to get the best dman in the NHL that's probably the price

Colorado- they have cap space to resign Karlsson and they looked good already in the playoffs Karlsson could but then over the top.

Bonus:

Edmonton: Lucic and 10th overall

Ottawa: Hoffman

Hoffman-Drais-Pulj

19 Jun 2018 06:20:07
Lol who said Hoffman has that much value anymore nah.

19 Jun 2018 06:20:28
Could get for better deal I bet Ottawa has zero leverage he’s got to go.

19 Jun 2018 14:40:47
i'd do the karlsson deal, though i'm sure they could get more?

19 Jun 2018 15:07:27
McJesus I’ll start off by saying Hoffman was traded for dirt but that trade would rid EDM of a hideous contract while giving them a consistent 25 goal scorer. This would’ve helped EDM Lucic needs to go and he’ll be hard to move.

16 Jun 2018 15:52:02
COL:
Karlsson,

OTT:
1st 2018/19(OTT depending which pick they take),
1st 2019 (COL),
Makar/Barrie

16 Jun 2018 17:58:28
Huge no from Colorado. Makar will not be moved.

16 Jun 2018 18:30:40
No from avs.

16 Jun 2018 19:54:09
Man. I would 100% take that . that's interesting .

17 Jun 2018 15:26:49
not a huge no both no for makar pretty sure.

17 Jun 2018 21:51:01
We'll find out soon enough.

18 Jun 2018 11:44:25
What has makar done? If anything col adds Girard on top and it's a deal.

11 Jun 2018 19:29:19
Oil: RNH


COL: Barrie.

26 May 2018 23:52:46
Buffalo Sabres Plan:

Jason Pominville (RW - 5.6 Million x 1 Year - 28.6% Salary Retention) to the Dallas Stars in exchange for 2018 3rd Round Draft Selection + 2019 5th Round Draft Selection.



2018 1st Round Draft Selection (SJS) + Johan Larsson (LW - 1.475 Million x 1 Year) + Eric Cornel (C - ELC) to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Tanner Pearson (3.75 Million x 3 Years) .

(Kings are probably looking to rebuild after a dismal end to 2017/ 18; Pearson looks to simply be a 40ish point guy, is expandable for a mid 1st and two young pieces) .



Zach Bogosian (D - 5.145 Million x 2 Years) to the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for Duncan Siemens (D - RFA) + 2019 3rd Round Draft Selection.

(Similar to Colin Wilson deal last year, Avs take on a meh player with a higher cap hit to upgrade their team) .


Resign:
Sam Reinhart (RW) - 5.0 Million x 5 Years
Robin Lehner (G) - 4.0 Million x 3 Years
Nicolas Baptiste (RW) - 1.0 Million x 2 Years

Free Agency:
David Perron (LW) - 5.5 Million x 4 Years.
Matt Calvert (RW) - 2.5 Million x 2 Years
Petr Mrazek (G) - 2.0 Million x 2 Years [Assuming Philadelphia does not qualify]

Lineup:
Sam Reinhart (5.0 Million) - Jack Eichel (10.0 Million) - Tanner Pearson (3.75 Million)
David Perron (5.5 Million) - Ryan O’Rielly (7.5 Million) - Kyle Okposo (6.0 Million)
Evan Rodrigues (0.65 Million) - Casey Mittelstadt (ELC) - Alexander Nylander (ELC)
Matt Calvert (2.5 Million) - Zemgus Girgensons (1.5 Million) - Nicolas Baptiste (1.0 Million)

Rasmus Dahlin (ELC) - Rasmus Ristolainen (5.0 Million)
Jake McCabe (1.6 Million) - Nathan Beaulieu (2.4 Million)
Marco Scandella (4.0 Million) - Victor Antipin (1.0 Million)

Robin Lehner (4.0 Million)
Petr Mrazek (2.0 Million)

- Basically, strip this team of its waste pieces and form a new, faster team identity. Give Eichel a wingman like Pearson too.

27 May 2018 00:23:19
Some makes sense. Decent value on a lot of it, but 3 more years of robin lehner as the go to guy at $4mill? Teams in the league have goalies they would throw away better than him. They won’t be better till he’s upgraded.

27 May 2018 01:01:52
You don’t put a 18 year old dman on the top pair.

27 May 2018 03:45:05
@UBJ

True. problem is, he's an RFA, and they needa resign him, and qualifying would be for 4 million. Maybe not three years, but for sure they'll qualify. And I feel he could actually play decent with a better core in front of him.

26 May 2018 18:13:01
Avalanche send
• Mikko Rantanen
• Mathew Nieto
Flames send
• Dougie Hamilton
• Sam Bennett
• Mark Jankowski
Flyers send
• Wayne Simmonds

Breakdown-

Flames acquire Mikko Rantanen, Wayne Simmonds.
Avalanche acquire Dougie Hamilton.
Flyers acquire Sam Bennett, Mathew Nieto, Mark Jankowski.

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Rantanen
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - W Simmonds
M Ferland - D Dube - M Frolik
G Hathaway - C Lazar - T Brouwer

S Courturier - C Giroux - J Voracek
O Lindbolm - N Patrick - T Konency
S Bennett - M Jankowski - M Raffl
J Letehra - V Fippula - J Weal

26 May 2018 18:45:58
So no from philly big time and also no from Colorado as sakic said rant is untouchable.

26 May 2018 18:49:43
I wouldn't trade Rantanen for what the flames are giving. hard to think they would also get Simmonds.

26 May 2018 21:52:05
Lmao Hamilton, Bennett and Jankowski get you Rantanen AND Simmonds? That's actually laughable.

27 May 2018 07:11:10
I'd rather keep dougie, everyone's so hard in him, I think he's great, if Calgary need to trade a dman to get forward help move Brodie.

26 May 2018 01:28:29
Avalanche - oilers 1st round pick (10th overall) / Tyler Benson / 3rd round pick(2019)

Oilers - Tyson Barrie

26 May 2018 05:00:11
Overpayment for Barrie.

26 May 2018 06:39:42
No from the Oilers. Too steep of a price plus they would need to move some $.

26 May 2018 11:42:21
What’s your offer on Barrie?

26 May 2018 18:48:00
Hahahahahaha holy this is pathetic for oil wtf.

26 May 2018 21:24:47
My counter from the Oilers would involve a cap dump as they can’t take on the $5million. How about the 10th overall, Benson and Russell?

20 May 2018 08:11:30
Let's say the Habs decide to trade Price. They would need to find a team which 1) has the cap space, 2) has the prospects that could help Montreal right away, 3) isn't in their division (or conference) and 4) sends you a goalie replacement back.

My proposal...

To COL:
Carey Price

To MTL:
Semyon Varlamov
Samuel Girard
Lower of 2019 1sts

Price's value is strongly influenced by his contract so you can't expect to receive a superstar for him. But Varlamov is a great starter if he's healthy and if he's not, you still have Charlie Lindgren. Girard is a wet dream of Habs' fans - French Canadian, young and LHPMD. That first round pick would probably be Colorado's so I expect it to be in 15-25 range.

So Colorado gets a star goalie (We all know how it went last time they get one from Montreal). Habs save cap space while getting less talented but still pretty good goalie, young LHD and a first round pick.

20 May 2018 16:16:05
Terrible. Price still has way more value than that. Bergevin will not trade him unless the return is way better than that. Carey Price is the face of the franchise and it's going to take a lot of pieces to snag him.

20 May 2018 11:48:09
I honestly think last season of Carey Price eas just a bump in the road and that he will rebounce and be back into talks for the best goalie the world has to offer. But if mtl can get 3 younger peaces ( 1 29 year old starter) , young lhd who had a good rookie start in the nhl and a solid forst rd pick in a goos draft year (2019 supose to have some really good players like Jack Hugues) Imtaking this from mtl.

20 May 2018 19:37:40
Wow. First Proce deal I've seen that makes sense all around kinda.

19 May 2018 01:16:57
Col: Logan Brown, Bobby Ryan,
Ott: Ott 1st 2019, Col #78 2018

19 May 2018 02:30:09
Wtf did i just read.

19 May 2018 04:24:23
i def. wouldn't do it if i'm col.

19 May 2018 19:23:54
Ott 1st rnd in 2019 is worth gold right now.

31 May 2018 19:37:11
How is Ottawa's pick worth gold? They'll be back in playoffs next year. not worth throwing brown away.

27 Apr 2018 23:35:26
Lottery winners: Col 1st + Ott 1st + Makar

Col: 1st overall, drafts Dahlin

What do you think?

28 Apr 2018 01:37:05
Ottawa is protecting their first round pick so it wouldn't work

28 Apr 2018 04:13:16
Colorado isn’t in a position to trade multiple 1st round picks and a top prospect. They need to continue drafting as many top end players as they can to become successful.

28 Apr 2018 04:23:45
depends on the lottery winner. only team I could see doing this is detroit due to their lack of prospects, but most other teams would rather get Dahlin.

28 Apr 2018 04:45:01
Well, you don’t have Ottawa’s 1st this year because it will be a top 10 pick. So they will defer and keep this years pick and you will own there 1st Round Pick next year.

28 Apr 2018 13:18:56
Even though Ottawa will keep this year's pick, it's pretty fair from a value perspective. Call it 2nd overall, 16th overall and Makar for Dahlin - if a team has an empty cupboard, I can see making the trade.

Good post.

28 Apr 2018 22:14:34
Only team that would trade Dahlin for 2nd overall, a mystery 1st and Makar would be Calargry, Carolina and MAYBE Arizona. Dahlin is a franchise dman and if you don’t already have one/ a wicked D core. You need to keep the pick.

29 Apr 2018 15:01:23
Why do you want dahlin may I ask? You have no clue who he is. You heard abouthim but have you seen him play? Is it the name that you like or the fact that in this trade your payjngpeanuts for him lol.

25 Apr 2018 18:27:03
I think that the Avalanche have a very good chance of signing Drew Doughty; they have 25 million in cap space next year and only really have to re-sign Yakupov and Nemeth. They will have to give Rantanen, Compher and Kerfoot their big contracts the next offseason, the same one as Doughty's UFA year, so I think they might just want to clear all the space they need to make it work.

to Colorado
Sceviour

to Florida
Soderberg

Sceviour is much cheaper, but Florida has its whole core signed long-term and has room for a better, more expensive option in Soderberg. Colorado can replace Soderberg with a 1-year UFA signing like Thornton or Filppula.

23 Apr 2018 04:20:53
Col: two 2nd round picks

NYI: Varlamov

Then

Col: Markstrom

Van: Timmins.

23 Apr 2018 05:48:37
If sven can't get you timmins i doubt markstrom will lmao.

23 Apr 2018 08:04:04
Hahahaha. Colorado laughs at the Vancouver one.

23 Apr 2018 11:10:41
Timmons won’t be traded for anything short of a gross overpayment.

26 Mar 2018 16:11:00
Col: Wilson, 2nd Nash 2018

Tor: Bozak and JVR

Sign and Trade

Bozak 4 x 4.5
JVR 6 x 6.5

Avs have the çap room and are on the up and coming. It keeps JVR and Bozak together and Bozak went to university of Denver.

26 Mar 2018 20:02:17
Um going to take more from Colorado to get that Lol.

26 Mar 2018 21:28:54
Theyre both UFA so why give up assets to get them. Why not simply juat sign them when you can during te summer.

27 Mar 2018 01:42:45
To avoid a bidding war and get them for like 5 mil instead of 7 ( JVR )

27 Mar 2018 04:48:16
But they are UFAs. Why would they sign for $5M when they could sign for $7M. It's not like they're stupid and don't know they are UFAs 😳.

27 Mar 2018 06:17:29
Hope they're idiots and pull some trickery or what.

27 Mar 2018 16:43:04
JVR is not leaving a team on the upswing like Toronto where he is happy, has lived a long time, ties to the community and are poised to start winning, to take a big discount somewhere else. If he’s willing to leave that much cash on the table he would just stay. He’s not getting days away from UFA to do the leafs a favour by letting them profit by picking his next team and salary elsewhere haha.

27 Mar 2018 19:14:58
The team that acquires their rights gains leverage on their next contract plus they have the ability to sign them earlier and to an extra year.

28 Mar 2018 10:25:23
Not sure signing an 28 year old winger to an extra year is considered and advantage. With that age you try for the less years as possible. You don't want to give 8 years at 7 million until he's 36. You want to sign him to 4 years at 6-7 million hoping well be worth it until he's 32. Obviously that don't always work but 6 years (34 when its done isn't terrible, but until he's 36 is almost brutal because those last 4 years are likely to be around 30-40 points from JVR which is too much at 7 million.

26 Mar 2018 16:08:49
Col: C. Wilson, 2018 Nas 2nd

Tor: Bozak and JVR

Sign and Trade

Bozak 4 x 4.5.

21 Mar 2018 22:27:50
Colorado Signs:
JVR 7 x5yrs
J. Tavares 9x 6yrs

21 Mar 2018 22:57:53
Tavares will want 7 years and more money. JVR will probably get 6+ years.

21 Mar 2018 23:15:19
Lol. Terrible predictions.

21 Mar 2018 23:43:14
Yeah those seem a little low . Probably wouldn't be a bad spot for them both to sign though.

22 Mar 2018 01:51:48
Tavares is not taking less than 10mikl unless it’s like stamkos and it’s in Tampa, Florida or Dallas where the lack of state taxes makes up the difference. And he will get max years for sure. The JVR one might be close, I dunno if I’d sign him to that deal tho. Seems like one that could really backfire in a few years.

25 Feb 2018 13:09:06
Mtl:Pacioretty,Alzner(2 million retain),Danault,2 rd pick 2018


Col:Murray,Wenberg

I know it's a big trade but not gets a guy who has proven he can play center at top level and is less then 23 and also a gòd top 4 D. Mtl trade a good winger who Columbus could really use and also a good top 4 D at a good contract with retention. Danault is a good replacement for Weinberg behind dmDuboisSecond round pivk is because of age difference

25 Feb 2018 16:57:29
lolllll nooo from montreal.

25 Feb 2018 18:06:22
Lol. What? Montreal can't say yes fast enough.

20 Feb 2018 20:43:14
Mtl:Chuck

Col:Kerfoot,Zadorov

20 Feb 2018 21:11:50
I don’t think Zadorov is enough on his own, but I don’t think Avs want to move kerfoot. Maybe something around Zadorov + tho. And is this just to try to ‘re-unite’ galchenyuk and yakupov like people have been saying for 5 years?! Teams may pay a steep price to bring in a friend or former teammate of their star player for hopes of instant chemistry, don’t see Avs trading a really good young player and a solid D to reunite a player with their 10th best forward tho lol.

20 Feb 2018 22:55:21
Personally don’t see them trading Zadorov straight up for him. At least not before makar and timmins are ready.

20 Feb 2018 23:47:18
no from montreal.

17 Feb 2018 19:07:38
Col:Girard,Yakupov

Mtl:Chuck

Clost?

17 Feb 2018 21:06:52
Looked it up, clost is an anagram of colt. clever.

14 Feb 2018 18:09:59
Oilers need a right hand damn who can play power play. Suggestions:
Oilers: RNH + Benning (maybe + 3rd Rd Pk)
Wild: Coyle + Spurgeon or Dumba
RNH would be a perfect for the wild. Their current centremen: Koivu and stall (both older and trending down, especially koivu) and coyle who is a good 3rd line centre, and EK who is young.
Spurgeon would look great with Sekera. Coyle 3rd centerman after McDavid and Drai.

Another option:
Oilers: Klefbom or RNH
Avs: Barrie
I believe that Avs have some good young right handed dman coming up. Barrie could be on his way out. They could use Klefbom on the left side. Or maybe they could use RNH on the second line after Macinnon. I prefer the Klefbom and Barrie’s swap.

14 Feb 2018 21:16:08
Sorry, Trade 1 Way OTL. None of those Wild players are an upgrade for Edmonton. Benning + 3rd for ONE of those players is probably more realistic.

Trade 2, No RNH but Klefbom for Barrie sounds realistic if the Av's put a high pick in to offset Klefbom's longer term cap friendly contract. or perhaps Edm would be content if the Av's ate 1.4M of Barrie's salary so they cost the same and edm takes the asset loss of the extra years of cap friendly service to fill the RHD need.

14 Feb 2018 22:01:00
So Spurgeon or Dumba are not an upgrade on Benning? Go and search the players playing time and stats, and then decide. Oilers need a power play dman.

14 Feb 2018 22:19:53
Pretty good. I think the RNH for Barrie one is pretty close. I think oilers might have to add a bit to klefbom just based on recent play, I think his value has taken a bit of a hit. Although 5 more years of control on klefbom at 4.1 mill vs 2 more years at 5.5 for Barrie may be enough to balance that out.

14 Feb 2018 22:24:58
You’re ridiculous FT4A. So Carrick plus a 3rd gets a top 4 dman or top 9 power forward? Or does it only work for Oiler players? How are these players not an upgrade for Edmonton? Please explain.

14 Feb 2018 22:30:40
Both defenseman are better offensively than anyone on the Oiler roster. Spurgeon or Dumba would fit nice on the Oiler blue line. Get your head out of your ass and realize they are bottom feeders in need for a change. A few very talented players, yes. After that you don’t have much of an argument.

14 Feb 2018 23:14:57
Jeez leafs why so angry
But ya if Edmonton could trade for Dumba that would be lit.

14 Feb 2018 23:20:38
I don’t think the aves would be interested in RNH, they have McKinnon and next year Jost. I’d say they have a pretty good 1-2 punch now and Hopkins is expensive 3rd liner. Value wise it’s pretty good just don’t see the need for aves. Also I’m positive I’m not the only one thinking this but LBRN needs to get a clue! You’re such a oilers homer it’s crazy.

I understand you’re a oilers fan and no one wants to see their team lose a trade but your opinions are just ridiculous! You need to stop watching hockey if you think that Benning and a 3rd will be you dumba or Spurgeon.

14 Feb 2018 23:30:34
RNH > Coyle
Benning + 3rd.

14 Feb 2018 23:31:00
Personally I think the left hand versus right hand defenseman argument is overrated one of the best defensive teams in NHL history had 5 left-handed defenseman in one right handed guy who was a spare part.

14 Feb 2018 23:33:38
Benning + pick / add for any ONE of the Wild players mentioned is a reasonable parallel trade. All those wild players are pretty average at best, but so is Benning.

Unfortunately as soon as you try to name RNH in the trade the VETO / Abort button lights up and gets hit. You will have to name a different player in the trade other than him.

As explained in a previous post that it seems mr/ ms Leafs17 for some reason still can't grasp the concept of is he is a core piece that plays hard minutes in all the difficult situations, is long term signed, is a fan favorite, is only 24 with 441 games of experience already.

Most importantly. The GM would probably lose his job trading him as he is on VERY thin ice over the Eberle asset liquidation last year. The teammates, GM, and coaching staff are all on record emphasizing how valuable RNH is to the team so throwing him in for a few average players back won't cut it.
It is doubtful he will get traded unless an elite #1 D-man is dangled of which Barrie, Spergeon, and Dumba are definitely not.


Trade 2

Oilers with the big $$ signings last year can't take on a Salary increase next season, so Barrie retention, or 2nd roster player (s) to offset the salary difference would need to be in the Klefbom for Barrie deal. This does sound like a realistic trade that might need a minor tweak.

I agree that Klefbom's poor play has diminished his value.

14 Feb 2018 23:44:28
Sorry McJ, FT4A has been trolling for too long. This is the same guy that values every oilers player above and beyond anyone in the league. Hopkins and Benning would require Karlsson just to get the conversation started.

15 Feb 2018 04:01:20
Who is FT4A? Leafs17, you got the wrong guy. How am I over valuing the oilers in this trade?
Plus, what the hell do u mean with your comments about karlson? I’m sorry man but you are making no sense here.

15 Feb 2018 04:14:32
Spurgeon and Dumba not being an upgrade on Benning is officially the dumbest argument of the week! Unbelievable. And yes leafs17, this is the same guy who said only way RNH could end up in Ottawa is if it was for Karlsson!

15 Feb 2018 05:12:23
FT4A/ let's be real now lost all credibility with that nonsense last year when Karlsson was a top 5 player in the league. Now he’s just making sure the credibility never has a chance to return.

15 Feb 2018 07:15:34
Sorry Oil fan, my comments were towards Let’s Be Real Now (FT4A) . Your proposals were ok. FT4A changed his name but still spews the same garbage. The veto comment is exactly the way FT4A would speak.

15 Feb 2018 14:11:54
Oh! Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it!

15 Feb 2018 16:11:29
Not sure what an FT4A is. ? Is that special code for something?

Sorry if there is a disagreement from the Eastern biased peanut gallery over this, but realistically that trade won't go. Benning + pick for one of those players is a decent realistic trade. Trade listed improves Minni, but Edmonton loses big time overall.

If RNH is going to be moved, I suspect it would be a 2 or 3 asset by Edmonton for 1 asset back type deal netting a #1 Dman or 1st line player to compliment McD. Not for 2nd pair / 3rd liners. Edmonton already is loaded with those types of players.

15 Feb 2018 20:08:42
Wild and avalanche say no.

15 Feb 2018 23:28:54
So how is coyle/ Dumba/ Spurgeon not worth more then rnh they actually play for a winning team and have staal granlund koivu sucker suter praise nino (not attempting that last name) and still put up good stats. Edmonton sucks they have Mcdavid and drai but drai is way overrated imo so keep your garbage nobody wants em you will draft high again and lose because you’re a horribly managed team.

16 Feb 2018 00:14:31
FT4A is the name you used to use and aren’t man enough to admit it. You know this big guy. And yes, madeindade, chirello will just f it up anyway. Sit back and watch the show.

 
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