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20 Oct 2018 11:49:46
Devils:
-LW Marcus Johansson
-C/RW Mikey McLeod
-2019 1st round

Leafs
-C/RW William Nylander

20 Oct 2018 13:48:25
Hell no from devils Nylander even with a 6×6 contract is not worth Mcleoud and a first so forgetabout adding Johanson.

20 Oct 2018 17:11:46
Ya, way too much, people thinking nylander is a superstar when he's just a above average player. not like he's a great two way player, 1 dementional winger, stop thinking he's worth a ransom when other teams know his contract demands, they aren't going to give a lot to over pay a good player.

20 Oct 2018 20:46:33
None of those pieces provide any value to the leafs.

20 Oct 2018 22:56:52
It’s close.

McLeod is highly rated, but unproven, prospect player, while Johansson is pending UFA coming back from nasty concussion. The 1st is what it is.

Jersey is loaded in talented forward prospects, so may be willing to move McLeod for someone that can contribute immediately. This is probably reasonably close to what Leafs can expect in terms of a package of picks/ prospects.

20 Oct 2018 23:50:12
Nobody should give any value to the leafs vb or whatever your name is, do you honestly think Nylander is worth much or can you just not see through them Toronto glasses.

21 Oct 2018 01:46:55
Well I mean McLeod and the 1st could potentially never play a game in the NHL and Johanson has negative value IMO he’s not worth his contract. So leafs could be potential be giving a PPG + player for virtually nothing of concrete value obviously the 1st is nice but McLeod doesn’t fit in at all. Wouldn’t be surprised if he can put up 90 points eventually in the right situation he reminds me very much of Paniran and it’s likely he’s better in the future comparing statistics.

21 Oct 2018 08:42:26
classic VB.

22 Oct 2018 04:28:56
My only question is if leafs don't think nylander is worth $8 per year. then why do they think he is worth that such in a trade.

22 Oct 2018 15:15:56
I believe he will be worth 9.5 million on a long term contract but I wouldn’t pay him that if I were the leafs I could see him pulling a Seguin.

22 Oct 2018 18:58:12
Hold on a second, i need to sit down. am i reading it correctly that you think Nylander is worth $9.5M/ year on a long term contract?

10 Oct 2018 19:24:15
New Jersey signs William Nylander to 8.1M x 7 years offer sheet, giving up a first, second and third round pick to toronto

anything much higher and they'd have to give up another first rounder.

10 Oct 2018 19:42:02
Wouldn't that still cost more then a 1st 2nd and3rd.

10 Oct 2018 19:43:44
If the offer is for more than 5 years, then you take the total contract amount and divide it by 5 years.

So, in this case it would be $56.7÷5=$11.34/ year. That would be 4 first round picks which I'm sure the Leafs would gladly accept.

10 Oct 2018 20:03:52
yikes I didn't realize that was a thing with offer sheets-- maybe let's say 8.25 x 5 years instead haha.

10 Oct 2018 20:04:03
Yeah, I’ll take 4 NJD 1st rounders for Nylander. Then draft another high skill winger with one, a Dman with one and shop for a RHD with the other 2.

10 Oct 2018 20:12:28
Nylander is looking for max years and money. If he’s not willing to budge off his 7-8 year term to stay in Toronto I doubt he does for New Jersey, but who knows.

28 Sep 2018 20:37:38
to New Jersey
Carrick

to Toronto
4th.

28 Sep 2018 20:46:29
I would take it. I think that’s being pretty hopeful from a leafs standpoint though.

01 Oct 2018 03:58:46
Yes. Dump Carrick for whatever we can get for him. I don’t even know why we bothered to re-sign him. He is never going to make the team full time. Trade him now while we can get something, anything, for him.

04 Sep 2018 15:19:16
Mtl: Gallagher

Devils: Zacha


Devils gets a good winger to complemented Hischier and hall and mtl gets a good young center to rebuild

05 Sep 2018 21:31:55
No from MTL, we're not losing our heart for that.

30 Aug 2018 13:29:36
NJ: Karlsson (extended)
OTT: Palmieri, Smith, 1st 2019

30 Aug 2018 18:07:16
Ywp. your delusional.

06 Sep 2018 17:00:02
Not a chance.

30 Aug 2018 01:06:47
Montreal:
Patch

New Jersey:
Zacha, 2019 2nd

30 Aug 2018 16:27:44
Really don’t see why NJ makes this trade.

30 Aug 2018 21:40:53
The only position that NJ couldn’t possibly upgrade is LW (Taylor Hall) and that’s what you suggest they spend assets on?

31 Aug 2018 02:44:20
Hockey is more than a 1 line game. There depth at LW drops off quite a bit after hall.

31 Aug 2018 02:56:43
Like honestly that is such a dumb thing to say. The Penguins have Crosby so they shouldn't spend money on malkin. The lightning have Herman so they shouldn't trade for karlsson. The leafs had Matthews so they shouldn't have signed Tavares. need I go on. This is basically what you are saying.

31 Aug 2018 15:32:12
What he’s trying to say @Pittsburghs finnest is that it isn’t smart to spend assets on a strong point in your roster when you have multiple glaring needs. Useally teams upgrade strong points internally unless if freak situations like Tavares and RHD is probably Tampa’s biggest position of need tbh. If Malkin and Karlsson hit the trade market a team like Edmonton isn’t going to give up a lot of their assets for Malkin when they already have Drais and RNH and they desperately need defense.

31 Aug 2018 15:41:05
Jerseys other best two young players after Hiescher is Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both left shot LW. They are far from a perfect team, but LW is the least of their concern. It’s not that dumb of a thing to say. Centre, Defense and Goalie are a little different than wingers lol Patches wanted 8 years $8 mill apparently, even if that’s not true and wants $7 mill, why have him behind hall?! Hall is going to be the go to guy on LW in all situations. If you have Centre depth, they can go to a wing for PP or goalie out late in game situations. Patches is a LW, nothing else.

31 Aug 2018 15:44:45
And from your examples.

Pens drafted Crosby and Malkin. Didn’t trade assets in a build for them

Leafs drafted Matthews and signed JT as a UFA, did t trade assets during a build for them

Hedman is a LD, Karlsson is a RD. That makes a lethal top pair, not in each other’s way. That makes my point exactly, why not get an elite RW to play with hall and Hiescher?

31 Aug 2018 23:24:10
Hall outscored the second highest scoring player on the team by 41 pts. That player is a 19 year old C who has also played left wing. The other two surprising youngsters were Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both Left shot LWs! Lol Spend assets to give the team some diverse players and give Hall someone to play with. Not Create an expensive block for 2 cheap young players making good strides.

29 Aug 2018 19:15:25
to New Jersey
Karlsson
Ryan

to Ottawa
Zacha
Severson
1st
2nd

I feel that the addition of Ryan will reduce the expected return, but New Jersey is both his home as well as a team that can certainly afford him, as well as EK.

29 Aug 2018 20:48:00
Zacha's a bust.

30 Aug 2018 02:36:39
Would not say Zacha is a bust but he was certainly a reach good future 2 way 2c.

06 Sep 2018 17:03:04
Leave for a month and come back to more trashing Ottawa trades got to love it. it'll take far more than a b prospect a bust and 2 late in their round picks to land the worlds best defenceman si keep dreaming.

23 Aug 2018 21:33:20
New Jersey Devils:

Mikhail Maltsev
Travis Zajac (15%)
1st Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020


St. Louis Blues:

Ryan O’Reilly



NJD Lineup: Top6

Hall - Hischier - Palmieri

Johansson - O’Reilly - Bratt.

23 Aug 2018 22:25:05
So no from blues. lol.

23 Aug 2018 23:31:30
C/ mon! Why would the Blues trade O'Reilly after they just traded for him.

23 Aug 2018 23:51:32
st louis trades for orielly because they are in win now mode only to flip him before he skates for for them for futures?

nhl fanny more like it.

24 Aug 2018 00:46:55
That's stupid. Seriously stupid blues needed a center traded a few non essential pieces for him. Now they should trade him to mid for that crap. Lol your funny guy.

24 Aug 2018 00:48:55
So why did the Blues jus get him then?

27 Aug 2018 00:47:21
So I guess the one person disagreeing with sensible comments is the guy who posted this treasure of a proposal.

23 Aug 2018 08:45:57
Detroit Trades: Jonathan Ericsson (2 years, 4.250 million)

New Jersey Trades: 3rd 2019 (ANA), Conditional 3rd 2020 (2nd if Devils Re-sign Ericsson)

Detroit reason: Clears cap and makes room for Hronek or Hicketts to crack the roster.

New Jersey Reason:Gets Veteran Swedish Defenseman to help mentor and anchor Severson. Fills the gap left by Moore and they have enough cap space to try him out for this year and next.

Is the value fair? Too much? Too little?

23 Aug 2018 13:18:47
Don’t usually see ‘condition on signing’ with 2 years left. That would be entering his final season, deadline of final season or trading his rights after the season.

23 Aug 2018 15:40:55
Eww no from NJ, Wings are stuck with Ericsson.

25 Aug 2018 04:56:14
Thanks for the feedback.

@unbiasedjim You make a good point about conditions. Maybe the condition could be play related.

@Hotguybabes

Ericsson is a decent Defenseman who may succeed with a change of scenery. Also his term is much lower which makes his contract more tolerable. New Jersey also has cap space and a need for Defenseman. Adding depth like Ericsson for picks can certainly help them push to make the playoffs again. They may not go far but deeper defense can help get you I’m.

21 Aug 2018 21:07:23
Oil: Caggiula

Devils: Quennville.

22 Aug 2018 00:26:28
for what purpose?

22 Aug 2018 18:09:42
Why nawt like what are ya sayin.

14 Aug 2018 03:20:09
to New Jersey
DeKeyser (800k retained)

to Detroit
Santini

New Jersey gets a decent defenseman who they can fit into their defense while having expanses of space to fit him, while Detroit removes one of the many egregious salaries it owes. NJ could also be a good candidate for Abdelkader, but probably couldn't fit the both of them.

14 Aug 2018 19:14:01
As a Wings fan, I wouldn't hate this but would just prefer picks/ prospects.

Santini is 23, not sure his upside. So not overly thrilled.

Also I doubt NJD wants Dekeyser's contract. They may actually prefer Ericsson and his lower term.

20 Jul 2018 19:16:22
Devils: 2019 3rd round pick, LW John Quenneville

Red Wings: RW Johann Franzen, RW Gustav Nyquist

Wings still need to bring back Dylan Larkin and add 3 more roster players with only 7m in cap when Franzen goes on LTIR. Devils provide some wiggle room and send over a prospect

18 Jul 2018 12:45:54
to Ottawa: Sergachev, Cirelli, Raddysh, 1st (TBL)


to Tampa: Karlsson (signed for 8 years/88 million)


to New Jersey: Coburn, Johnson, Högberg, 3rd (OTT), 2nd (TBL)

18 Jul 2018 13:20:09
Wait Jersey gives nothing and gets a second third and Johnson? The third is enough for one year of Coburn lol.

18 Jul 2018 13:37:19
Well, you're right lol. Maybe switch Johnson with Callahan? Or would Jersey need to get more if they take on Callahan?

18 Jul 2018 14:16:41
Wow. This might be one of the worst Karlsson proposals yet.
Sergachev, Carelli, Raddysh, 1st, 2nd, Coburn, Johnson

For Karlsson?

Do You actually think yzerman is an idiot?

18 Jul 2018 14:38:19
1. it's for Karlsson and to get rid of salary
2. why should Ottawa take less?
3. after rethinking my proposal, adding Johnson is too much. you could also take Cirelli/ Raddysh out of the deal or the 1st from Tampa.
4. No I actually don't think Stevie is an idiot.

18 Jul 2018 16:04:28
In my opinion its a bit too much (mainly with what Jersey is getting) and Coburn is all the salary they need to dump this year. Could send Coburn somewhere and then worry about next years cap issues later with Johnson Killorn Callahan all options to move. I also feel Karlsson extension in Tampa may be under 11 but wouldn't be by much and i wouldn't be surprised by 11.

18 Jul 2018 16:59:25
I still don’t know why New Jersey is involved in this lol.

20 Jul 2018 14:40:28
I actually don't mind this 1 at all. finally found someone on here outside myself and 2 others who no longer post because of the foolish posts and responses you see, who has a decent sense of trade value.

10 Jul 2018 20:33:53
3-way deal

Ottawa:
RD Erik Karlsson
RW Bobby Ryan
2019 2nd round pick

Tampa:
LD Mikhail Sergachev
C Anthony Cirelli
RD Jake Dotchin
2020 1st round pick

New Jersey:
RW Brandon Baddock


To New Jersey:
RW Bobby Ryan
2019 2nd round pick
RD Jake Dotchin

To Ottawa:
LD Mikhail Sergachev
C Anthony Cirelli
2020 1st round pick

To Tampa:
RD Erik Karlsson
RW Brandon Baddock

10 Jul 2018 20:57:34
Again, why does New Jersey take 4 years/ $29 mill of bony Ryan for a #6/ 7 Dman and a 2nd?!

Detroit swapped picks which allowed Arizona Jacob Chychrun at 12th overall to take 1 year/ 7 mill of Datsuks money. Think about that price and now realize you want a team to take that same cap hit but 4 times as long. Where’s the incentive?!

11 Jul 2018 10:41:31
Should TB include Sergachev, we def won't also add Cirelli and a 1st lol.

11 Jul 2018 13:16:01
I could live with this.

Tampa would have to pair sergachev with a 1st and one of either cireli gourde or point triplets. you don't get the best defenceman / number 3 player in the world cheap. it's not even a debate at this point. you guys who think superstars like Karlsson come cheap need to get out of your grandparents basements. I say grandparents because even your parents would be embarrassed by you.

11 Jul 2018 15:08:46
Best deffensman in the world? The person who proposed the trade is talking about Karlsson not Doughty.

12 Jul 2018 08:11:31
Rambo, are you really that stupid? OTT has no leverage whatsoever, they need to trade him, otherwise they lose him for no return at all.

15 Jul 2018 17:23:02
They have a year to trade him if needed triplets it's not an immediate thing this the leverage argument is nullified and void get that through your head.

Exactly vbbvbb what does doughty have to do with anything to do with best defenceman in the world conversation? The guy hasn't been relevant in 3 seasons now. Karlsson bu far number 1 while the likes of dahlin hedman josi subban burns pietrangelo byfuglien werenski jones and ekblad have all surpassed doughty by this point. he's still great sure but not like he was. Karlsson had rough year injury wise and personal wise sso naturally he was going to struggle a bit doesn't mean he's done.

20 Jun 2018 10:31:50
Oilers: klefbom

Devils: severson

18 Jun 2018 11:52:20
Contingent on Devils signing John Carlson:

Devils:
RD Damon Severson
LD Mirco Mueller
2019 3rd round pick

Coyotes:
LD Jakob Chychrun

Hjalmarsson is probably gone after next year, Demers isn't very good. They need a young RD (Severson). At LD they have Goligoski and OEL they need someone who can play good defense and play the left side on the PK (Mueller).

Devils need a 1LD and even if Chychrun isn't that right now he has the potential to be.

Chychrun - Carlson
Butcher - Vatanen
Greene - Santini
Lovejoy

OEL - Hjalmarsson
Mueller - Severson
Goligoski - Demers

18 Jun 2018 13:54:46
Lol start with McLeod.

18 Jun 2018 16:21:57
Lol not even close for Chychrun, laughable offer.

18 Jun 2018 17:48:12
Lol wtf when did chychrun get so much value?

18 Jun 2018 23:32:23
bj, you're just jelly.

02 Jun 2018 02:09:56
WPG: Myers
NJ: 17th Overall Pick 2018

02 Jun 2018 07:07:30
Way too much.

02 Jun 2018 15:42:14
I agree to much for Myers.

02 Jun 2018 16:23:01
Given what NJ got for Larsen, Myers is worth a bit more. He's a top 4 d-man on man on many NHL teams and is signed to a very good contract. At 28 he still has 5 good years left as a good player. I think if the Jets trade him he will be part of a package that will bring the Jets a better return.

02 Jun 2018 22:41:42
Just because Chia blew his wad on that trade does not mean Myers would get anywhere near that return.

03 Jun 2018 12:33:06
If Larsson is actually truly worth hall, then Gardiner can get Rantanen. That trade was terrible, don't size d values w that trade.

27 May 2018 19:42:21
Devils trade: Rykov, Wood

Canucks trade: Baertschi

27 May 2018 23:41:37
Hell yes from the Canucks, though I think NJ would want more.

28 May 2018 04:17:52
The Rangers have the rights to Yegor Rykov because of the Michael Grabner trade at the trade deadline.

27 May 2018 14:55:13
Devils:
LW Miles Wood
LD Mirco Mueller
2019 3rd round pick

Kings:
LD Jake Muzzin

Significant cap savings for Kings getting 2 guys on very affordable deals. Devils finally get a top LD

27 May 2018 17:53:14
So a 6 dman and a 3rd liner for Drew Doughtys partener and one of the premier shutdown dmen in the league? don't think so.

27 May 2018 18:09:54
Woods for sekera :)

25 May 2018 19:20:32
Devils:
-D Damon Severson
-W Jesper Bratt
-2019 2nd

Hurricanes
-D Noah Hanifin.

25 May 2018 20:18:09
Value wise could be good. But then hurricanes still have severson on a long term contract as a 4th Dman begins pesce, Slavin and Faulk. The point of shopping hand gin is to avoid that. Make it 2 forwards and a pick instead. Or a lot better pick and Bratt.

25 May 2018 23:19:11
I’ll beat that offer Jake Gardiner, Kasperi Kappanen and 1st.

 
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