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17 Feb 2019 04:08:47
Devils:
LW Marcus Johansson

Capitals:
2019 2nd round pick
conditional 2020 2nd round pick (if Mojo re-signs or if WSH wins 2019 Cup)

Devils try to maximize Mojo's value before UFA. I don't think Washington ever wanted him gone; it was a numbers/cap move

17 Feb 2019 05:15:59
Too much. He was originally traded for only a 2nd + 3rd. Now he’s a pending UFA and injury prone and isn’t producing at the same level. The conditional pick isn’t necessary as Johansson isn’t going to be a major reason Washington wins again.

17 Feb 2019 06:08:21
1) He was a cap squeeze. Washington was out of money after the Kuznetsov extension and needed to make a move fast. Mojo was traded within hours of that announcement

2) 2nd and 3rd vs. 2nd and conditional 2nd? Seems even if not in favor of the first go

3) Pending UFA is more valuable – leads to more flexibility for cap constrained team

4) Mojo: 5 in his last 4, 10 in his last 12.injury prone is one thing but Washington isn't buying him on an 8x8. He has 4 months left on his contract. Worse than when he was traded? Yes, but that was a career year for him and I don't think Washington is concerned about who they would be acquiring

5) If WSH wins the cup, the Devils do not want to trade Mojo for #62 overall. That's not worthwhile. Without conditional 2nd, Devils don't make that trade, would either trade him for a prospect or try to re-sign him.

18 Feb 2019 01:11:43
I don’t even think he is worth a second. Grabner went for a 2nd. He is a lot better.

14 Feb 2019 00:28:01
Devils Trade
MJohansson

Leafs Trade
CBrown
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

With New Jersey looking at not making the Playoffs moving an expiring contract in MJohansson and getting an asset back in CBrown plus a Draft Pick is something I believe they will look at, Leafs add a Top 6 LWinger that will put Hyman on the 4th Line to make a stronger Forward unit.

Thoughts ?

14 Feb 2019 01:39:49
Upgrade the 4th to a 2nd and you’ve got an okay offer, nothing spectacular though.

14 Feb 2019 03:03:51
Is Johansson really that much better than Hyman? I don’t know if Leafs would be wiling to trade a roster player for a UFA they can probably get for a just a pick or b-prospect.

14 Feb 2019 04:17:19
I think the focus should be on RD or a physical player.

06 Feb 2019 22:47:41
New Jersey Trades
MJohansson

Toronto Trades
FGauthier
2nd Round Pick 2019

MJohansson is on an expiring contract and with the Trading of Boyle today FGauthier would be the perfect replacement.
Leafs get a very good LWinger who would fit nice on either Matthews or Tavares's Wing.

Thoughts ?

07 Feb 2019 06:14:58
This one isn't horrible.

07 Feb 2019 13:02:01
I would also add the Blues 4th Round Pick this year if needed but change years for the 2nd Round Pick, so it will be.

Devils Trade
MJohansson

Leafs Trade
FGauthier
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)
2nd Round Pick 2020

Thoughts?

07 Feb 2019 18:09:26
Isn’t Johansson injury prone? I think Leafs are better off keeping Gauthier.

07 Feb 2019 19:39:53
I don’t know, Gauthier hasn’t looked too bad this year and the leafs could use his size.

03 Feb 2019 10:09:45
NJD:
Hall (+2 million retained salary)

CGY:
2019 1st
2020 2nd
Frolik
Dube

Gaudrea Monahan Lindholm
Tkachuk Backlund Hall
Bennett Janko Neal
Mangi Ryan Hathaway

03 Feb 2019 14:59:49
You would have to start with Tkachuk in a trade like that and neither Team would Trade either Tkachuk or Hall so don't see this as even a possibility.

08 Feb 2019 21:16:51
HALL will never go to Calgary! Maybe back to Edmonton (but not likely) and your right Tkachuk would have to start this . NOT HAPPENING.

29 Jan 2019 22:18:43
Deadline Deals:

SJS Acquire:
Marcus Johansson [4.5 Million x 1 Year]
Ben Lovejoy [2.7 Million x 1 Year]

NJD Acquire:
Melker Karlsson [2.0 Million x 2 Years]
Jacob Middleton [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 2nd Round Draft Pick

[Karlsson and the 2nd get moved for Johansson, Middleton gets swapped for Lovejoy]

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DET Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]
Tristan Jarry [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
Zach Aston-Reese [0.9 Million x 1 Year]
2019 2nd Round Draft Pick

PIT Acquires:
Gustav Nyquist [4.75 Million x 1 Year]
Jacob De La Rose [0.9 Million x 2 Years]
2020 4th Round Draft Pick

[Nyquist goes for Brassard, Jarry and the 2nd, basically Pittsburgh upgrades mightily on a struggling Brassard - I've seen Pens fans willing to budge on this type of proposal for guys like Kevin Hayes, ZAR goes for JDLR and the 4th].

--
DET Acquires:
Danton Heinen [0.9 Million x 1 Year]

BOS Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]

[Boston upgrades their 3C, they give away the guy with more potential for the guy who can likely make a difference asap]

[Basically, Nyquist, JDLR and 4th for Heinen, ZAR, Jarry and 2nd].

31 Jan 2019 19:19:12
I like this as a wings fan.

28 Jan 2019 19:07:46
Devils - G - C. Schneider, F - M. Johannson and D - D. Severson

Oilers - G - C.Talbot , D - M. Benning and C - T. Rieder


Change of scenery for all individuals.

28 Jan 2019 19:52:56
lmfao sure, if cap works out.

28 Jan 2019 20:33:59
Severson himself is worth more than that package lol, Talbots worth more then Schnieder sure since Schnieders been brutal for Jersey as of late, but come on, a 5-6 dman in Benning and a guy without a goal for both MoJo and Severson? No can do.

28 Jan 2019 23:02:29
Haha yes from oil.

28 Jan 2019 02:04:16
Leafs Trade: 1st, 2020 3rd, and Liligren
Blues Trade: Pieterangelo
Leafs Trade: 2020 2nd, Brown
Flyers Trade: Gudas
Leafs Trade: 3rd and Bracco
Devils Trade: Boyle
Leafs call up Moore (permanent) and move Kadri up to Play wing.
Boyle fits perfect on 3rd with speed of Kapanen and Johnson
Try and get a pick back for Zaitsev

Kadri Tavares Marner
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Johnson Boyle Kapanen
Marleau Lindholm Moore
Ennis Goat

Rielly Pieterangelo
Gardiner Gudas
Dermott Hainsey

28 Jan 2019 14:17:51
Gudas for Brown and a 2nd? Gudas is Trash. I’d give a 2nd for him not to go to the leafs.

28 Jan 2019 16:58:57
Gudas has probably been the flyers most consistent dman this year. He's ideally a good 3rd pair and he probably could be that on any team in the league. He will get at least a 2nd if they trade him.

28 Jan 2019 18:40:37
LOL at the Pieterangelo trade. If they trade him they are getting more than that. Throw in s Kapenen and another pick and you might get close.

29 Jan 2019 00:04:33
If you want petro like I said before you will have to pay up

Stl-petro

Tor- nylander/ kappy sandin/ liljgren 1st 2019. + if you need to add cap dump.

27 Jan 2019 14:39:30
Oilers: Sekera, Yamamoto, Talbot

Panthers: Bjugstad, Matheson


Oilers: Nuge, 3rd round pick 2019

Ducks: Rakell


Oilers: Puljujarvi, Benning

Canes: Faulk, Ferland


Oilers: spooner, 2nd round pick 2019!

Devils: Zajac




Rakell Mcdavid Chiasson
Ferland Draisaitl Bjugstad
Lucic Zajac Puljujarvi
Khaira Brodziak Kassian

Nurse Larsson
Matheson Faulk
Klefbom Russell

Koskinen

Trades might not be dead on but how's the idea on this?

27 Jan 2019 16:25:34
Wouldn't you just move rnh to wing again instead of losing a draft pick?

27 Jan 2019 16:29:55
Not very good trades for making the Oilers significally better.

27 Jan 2019 17:04:39
So you Trade Puljujarvi And then you some how get him Back?

27 Jan 2019 18:37:23
Lol vbbb yeah they claim him off waivers.

27 Jan 2019 20:59:10
The next Edmonton GM better not be throwing away draft picks for band-aid roster fillers if he wants to keep his job.

The prospect pool isn't that talented as it is, they need those picks to restock the cupboard.

28 Jan 2019 21:47:15
If Oilers move Talbot its going to be to a team that needs a #1goalie because Talbot won't settle for a backup gig!

25 Jan 2019 15:03:44
A couple moves for the Jets to get playoff ready. Also provides great depth and they're all in.

NJ: Boyle
WPG: Dano, 3rd Round Pick 2019

Why? The Devils move a pending UFA for a younger asset and the Jets get a big 4th line Center for the playoffs.

CAR: Ferland
WPG: Comrie, Petan, 2nd Round Pick 2019

Why? Canes get a top goalie prospect ready for NHL action next year, a young forward that needs to play top 9 minutes and a pick. Jets get scoring and physical player for the playoffs.

Jets sign Bieksa (1 year, league minimum)

Jets lineup:

Ehlers - Schiefele - Wheeler
Connor - Little - Laine
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Ferland - Boyle - Perreault
Extras: Roslovic, Lemieux, Appleton

Morrissey - Trouba
Chariot - Byfuglien
Kulikov - Myers
Extras: Morrow, Bieksa

Hellebuyck
Brossoit

25 Jan 2019 15:36:45
Too much for Boyle. I'd do the 3rd or Dano, not both.

Same for Ferland, the Jets don't really need him, but if they went after him, I would do Petan and a 4th, not the 2nd and not Comrie.

As for Bieksa, I wouldn't want to waste the cap space on him.

25 Jan 2019 17:38:24
The trades really don’t help the Jets that much but I like the signing of bieksa as a free agent.

25 Jan 2019 21:53:24
Memarcusjoe Dano doesn’t really have value anymore does he? Didn’t he get claimed on waivers twice this year? I still think you Jets fans are underestimating the difference Boyle makes especially for a playoff run.

26 Jan 2019 02:46:06
True, Dano has very little value. However, that’s no reason to throw away more assets than required. Boyle is a 4th liner, so if we get him we get him, if we don’t we don’t.

23 Jan 2019 02:29:52
Oilers: puljujarvi, Talbot

Devils: palmieri, Kinkaid, 4th round pick 2019

What do you guys think?

23 Jan 2019 05:37:33
If Palmeri was 8 years younger.

23 Jan 2019 05:38:12
Jk he’s not even that old 😂 but still 7 years older yenno is pass for oilers.

23 Jan 2019 16:02:56
ya puljujarvi is too young still i don't see why we give up on him now.

08 Jan 2019 22:38:17
Devils:
-Damon Severson

Oilers:
-Darnell Nurse

Sign Stone...

Hall - Hischier - Stone
Bratt - Zacha - Palmieri
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen
Wood - Boyle - Anderson

Nurse - Vatanen
Greene - Santini
Mueller - Butcher

Blackwood
Schneider

09 Jan 2019 03:37:46
Why tf would oilers do that lol.

09 Jan 2019 03:46:13
Lol what? I'd rather Nurse for sure.

09 Jan 2019 14:27:08
The Oilers desperately have to make some moves but this trade would make them weaker.

09 Jan 2019 23:44:30
The oilers need defense not to send away one of their only compitent players at that position.

07 Jan 2019 23:15:38
Jets go all in this year, three trades for the Jets at the deadline:

WPG: Petan
NJ: Boyle

WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Harkins
NYR: Hayes

WPG: Stanley, Kulikov (to balance cap), 2nd Round Pick 2019, Dano
LA: Muzzin

Ehlers - Schiefele - Wheeler
Connor - Hayes - Laine
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Boyle - Little - Roslovic

Morrissey - Trouba
Muzzin - Byfuglien
Chariot - Myers

08 Jan 2019 04:44:30
Big Brian Boyle is having his best season ever. Such a real feel good story over there in Jersey. I know Boyle likes it in NJ and chose them despite competitive offers from other teams. And Boyle is well liked in Jersey as well. Winning the Masterston Trophy was a real feel good story and gave the press something bright to focus on during what was otherwise a pretty dismal campaign. Boyle doesn’t have any trade protection, so would have to accept a trade if one happened. The return on the old boy is would probably be pretty low though. I kinda think the big guy is going to retire in Devils uniform though. Not necessarily this year eithwr.

08 Jan 2019 16:30:42
Petan for Boyle trade makes no sense for the Devils. Hayes is going to be a UFA at the end of the season so a #1 plus Harkins for him is too much to give up for a rental. I don't think Chevy will trade Stanley in that package for Muzzin, but it would be great if the Jets could get him.

08 Jan 2019 17:34:22
If NJ wanted the first deal, it would be great for the Jets. Too much for Hayes. If that is the ask, the Jets pass. The third one, I agree with Islandjet, I don't think the Jets will move Stanley yet.

06 Jan 2019 02:39:06
to New Jersey
Tarasenko
6th

to St Louis
McLeod
2nd.

06 Jan 2019 04:40:29
Hahahahahahahahaha.

06 Jan 2019 14:32:07
Wow, why don’t the Blues to throw in Parayko while their at it? Maybe Kostin and Kyrou too. Heck, you can probably Even lower that NJ 2nd into a 3rd. I mean, we all know McLoud, an unproven NHLer has like quadruple the value of Senko right? Sheesh.

06 Jan 2019 16:13:51
Not close for Senko.

31 Dec 2018 05:13:36
WPG: Petan, 5th Round Pick 2019
NJ: Boyle

Petan can restart his career in Jersey and actually get a chance to play.

Jets have a solid lineup for the playoffs:

Ehlers - Schiefele - Wheeler
Connor - Little - Laine
Copp - Lowry - Tanev
Perrault - Boyle - Roslovic

31 Dec 2018 15:23:51
I'd be okay with it.

31 Dec 2018 20:43:16
The Jets give up too much for a slow UFA 34 year old injury pron -8 plug. Petan should be used in a package that could get them another left-shot d-man.

31 Dec 2018 21:28:41
Petan would need a lot more attached to get you a decent left shot d man. Boyle would be perfect for the jets.

31 Dec 2018 21:34:58
I watched Boyle for two and a half years in Tampa and believe me he’s what you want for a playoff push and will quickly be a fan favourite. He’s a great bottom 6 C. And where do you get injury prone from? because he missed time last year with cancer? Since 09-10 he’s had 2 seasons under 70 games last year with 69 and the shortened season. Boyle’s been one of the players I was most upset to see leave Tampa, plays his role well and is a great guy off the ice.

31 Dec 2018 23:05:27
Boyle oozes character and if traded will get a return of a 2nd rounder. He would be a perfect 4th line center on the Jets. I would take him on my team before Little anytime.

01 Jan 2019 00:23:23
He would be a good pick up at the right price. guys like Boyle will never hurt ya., good locker room presence. good all around guy. ( can't believe he's American LOL jk)

01 Jan 2019 01:18:59
Why move Perrault to the wing? I thought he was a really good face off guy.

01 Jan 2019 05:25:51
Perrault has been on the wing all of this year and most of last.

18 Dec 2018 19:27:53
to Ottawa
Severson

to New Jersey
Ryan
Ceci
5th

NJ gets an improvement on D while sacrificing cap space to do it, Ottawa gets rid of Ryan's salary while getting a fairly young defenseman with offensive skill.

18 Dec 2018 20:24:13
Where is NJ’s improvement on D?

18 Dec 2018 22:17:12
Severson is not as good as a lot of people give him credit for.

18 Dec 2018 22:59:32
Cool. Nobody even bothers giving Ceci any credit, and rightfully so.

19 Dec 2018 01:21:58
But Ceci is supposed to be better lmao what?

19 Dec 2018 08:52:36
Ceci is in no way shape or form better than Severson lol. This trade isn’t even close.

14 Dec 2018 22:24:21
Blues trade: Tarasenko

Devils trade: Mcleod, 1st round pick 2019

Then

Blues trade: Pietrangelo, Allen

Flyers trade: sanheim, Simmonds, Elliot, 1st round pick 2019, 2nd round pick 2020

14 Dec 2018 23:59:47
Blues say no on both. The first one isn’t even in the right ballpark, Senko will get much more than that. Second trade is better but still not enough.

15 Dec 2018 00:14:35
All kinds of precedents indicate that you are pretty close to the right trade value for Tarasenko. Maybe a little short, but we’re talking throw-in, not significant piece.

Prospect reports on McCleod are fantastic. I’ve never seen him play, but from what I’ve read, he is lightning in skates. Extremely fast and highly skilled. Blues would do well to insist on McCleod in any trade involving Tarasenko with NJ.

15 Dec 2018 00:23:07
Easy f’in no from St. Louis.

15 Dec 2018 03:43:53
It sounds like a short offer for Tarasenko, but ole ty of previous trades seem to suggest it’s not that far off: Kessel (twice), O’Reilly, Brayden Schenn, just off the top of my head. All similar players to Tarasenko with very similar stats. All traded for 2x1st + extras.

11 Dec 2018 07:18:16
Just a shot in the dark on this one.

To STL

Travis Zajac
Pavel Zacha
Michael McLeod
John Quennville
2ND Round Pick in 2019
1st Round Pick in 2020

To NJD

Vladimir Tarasenko
Colton Parayko

11 Dec 2018 09:26:02
I can tell you’re a Devils fan, my god. I’m going to give you a lesson here, quantity does NOT equal quality. That package doesn’t get you Tarasenko OR Parayko, let alone both together.

11 Dec 2018 12:28:05
I’d bet anything that package would get one of them. That’s definitely a lot better then what Karlsson got And Kessel.

11 Dec 2018 14:29:50
Blues say no. Quantity doesn't equal quality. If nj, wants parayko think hall.

11 Dec 2018 15:12:50
Hall for Paryanko, Thomas, Kyrou And 1st?

11 Dec 2018 16:04:44
No who is parayko.

Blues once again ate not trading our best players for a bunch of lesser pieces.

05 Dec 2018 16:18:21
New jersey will butcher

Montreal phoeling,mete,byron

Would new jersey consider?

05 Dec 2018 17:14:16
Possibly yes but montreal wouldn't.

05 Dec 2018 23:21:05
Mtl would never do this in 100 years.

06 Dec 2018 02:10:32
would new jersey consider this? if they were offered this i'm sure they'd take this and run. the real question is why would montreal offer this?

06 Dec 2018 03:41:22
I would like this if it was Byron and like a late 2nd for butcher but this package is definitely way to much.

29 Nov 2018 21:11:41
Chicago: Keith +2nd
toronto: Gardiner, Kapenen, 3rd

Chicago: Anisimov
NJD: 3rd, 5th

Chicago: Crawford+ 3rd
Philly: Hart +2nd

Chicago: Seabrook (50% Retained)
Boston: Vladar + 2nd.

29 Nov 2018 23:23:25
Why is Philly giving the better pick with Hart?!

30 Nov 2018 00:04:04
Toronto shouldn't take Keith contract, and Kapanen is at an all time high in value.

New Jersey may do that, but they have decently good centre depth (Hischier/ Zajac/ McLeod/ Zacha/ / Boyle) and ZAjac is a huge contract altogether, probably don't want Anisimov as well.

Philly is bankinh on Hart, i don't think they take a gamble on an older goalie for him.

And idk about the last one. Seabrook at 50 is decent imo.

30 Nov 2018 00:48:29
Interesting you bringing up Keith what with the discussion about Pietrangelo below. Less than 2 years ago Keith came 4th in Norris trophy voting. Now nobody believes he is anywhere near top 50 even and that once sweet contract of his is a boat anchor. It just shows how fast a player can fall down the rankings and deteriorate in performance. Another great example is Karlsson. Once considered the best defenseman in the world not long ago, Karlsson should not be taken seriously as a top 10 defender in the NHL anymore.

I guess age eventually captures up with everyone.

17 Nov 2018 09:13:11
Worst GM in the league - Peter Chiarelli

EDM: Hall (2018 MVP)
NJ: Larsson

EDM: 15th Overall Pick 2015 (Barzal), 33rd Overall Pick 2015 (NYI moves up a bit but basically it was Beauvillier)
NYI: Reinhard (bust and taken by Vegas in the expansion draft)

EDM: Eberle
NYI: Strome (just got traded for Spooner)

2016: Signed Lucic to a 7 year $42M contract

I feel bad for Oilers fans - McDavid is great but your team won't get any better until Chiarelli is fired

17 Nov 2018 11:19:15
So which Gm do they hire to replace him that automatically makes the team better?

17 Nov 2018 12:04:10
Certainly Makes you wounder what could have been. can also add “what if Yakupov wasn’t a total bust” to that conversation.

17 Nov 2018 13:21:52
Nuge McDavid Barzel
Hall Drai _____
Would have been amazing

You forgot to mention part of the Eberle deal Was to free up a couple mil to over pay a few guys $500K each.
The 2018 MVP was actually McDavid. The MVP to his team was Hall tho. That's just the literal definition of the trophy not my words. Not down playing it just calling it what it is.

Since this topic has been beaten to death. Can anyone name all the good deal he has made? Or do we only focus on the bad deals. Petty sure we only focus on the bad tho.

17 Nov 2018 15:17:08
I agree I’d hire Dean Lombardi can’t be any worse then Charlie.

17 Nov 2018 15:43:21
I'd call up Yzerman and Coach Q. Ask if they're interested. Lol. Dream team there.

17 Nov 2018 17:32:53
Chiarelli is the reason why Bergevin even after the Weber trade is not the worst GM in the league imo.

17 Nov 2018 17:56:25
Even when I was on this topic before I said the Talbot deal was good. He hasn’t been great lately but never gave up roster players, good prospects or a 1st round pick and got a prime aged goalie who really looked like the solution for a while. Was fantastic in year 1.

Beyond that, I’m really not sure on any good ones. Lots of okay signings and small moves that never really made a big impact good or bad.

And for a replacement, Dean Lombardi is an obvious one, also Mike Futa has been on pretty much every short list of interviews I've seen for the last cpl years, but hasn’t been hired so I dunno what to think of that. He has been in LAs front office for a long time but only an AGM for a year or 2.

17 Nov 2018 18:39:44
Idk what the point of this post was so? But oilers need to hire some young wiz to be our gm similar to what Toronto has in Dubas.

17 Nov 2018 22:03:23
The same dean Lombardi who traded wayne simmonds and brayden schern for mike Richards or martin jones colin miller and a 1st for milan lucic?

17 Nov 2018 22:34:03
@habby, to be fair that dean lombardi won 2 cups after trading for mike Richards and he was a big part of them. With the lucic one, he was trying to milk Another cup out of that core and missed the mark for sure but had the sense to let him walk rather than give him the term he got. He wanted to keep him, lucic wanted to stay but he wouldn’t go more than 4 years, something I’m sure oilers fans wish PC said too.

Most fan basis would be okay making a bad deal here or there if the trade off was cups. He traded for gavorik and signed him there too, but he lead the league in scoring when they won the second cup. PC can’t say that with any of the bad moves in Edmonton and doesn’t look like he will be able to soon either. That’s the big difference I see.

18 Nov 2018 10:12:07
@ jim yeah Lombardi was a good Gm I'm just trying to show every gm has made bad moves. Even the almighty Stevie y made that Coburn trade. let's just say PC didn't make the eberle and hall trades then they would be about 5 mil over the cap now would have probably meant not being able to resign nurse. so I guess nurse and larsson for hall looks a little better lol.

18 Nov 2018 14:06:40
Yea and if he didn’t sign lucic to a boat anchor of a contract he could have kept them all.

18 Nov 2018 18:42:16
All GMs have good and bad moves, you’re right. It’s just the ratio with him that puts him in the conversation of worst. He’s had a cpl small wins, a bunch of close to evens and more than a handful of catastrophic losses. And then when it’s a known thing that he’s ‘easy to deal with’ from agents in the league apparently, that makes more sense. Was probably easy for Lucics agent to talk him into 7 years when that same dean lombardi said max 3 and then went a little outside his comfort zone to 4 years. All I do to judge a guys job is look what they had when they arrived, and look what they have today. He has a far less talented team, less high end assets to correct that and far less cap space than when he arrived. The only sure fire thing he has that’s better than anyone else is Mcdavid and you get no credit for drafting him or signing him because someone who never followed the NHL in their lives would have done that. Just like shanahan and Lou get no credit for Matthews. Pens GM gets no credit for Sid etc. It’s the other stuff that matters and it’s not good with him.

 
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