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20 Apr 2018 05:47:50
The kings haven't contended in awhile with there core and now it's probably time for a Rebuild.

LA: Doughty

Toronto: Nylander and 2020 1st * or Brown , Lindgren, 2018 1st And 2020 1st *

* Conditional If leafs resign Doughty

LA: gets a great package for a rental who will leave for free in the summer anyway

Toronto: gets the advantage of giving Doughty his 8th year and basically ensures he signs there.

LA: Carter

Stl: Kyrou and 1st 2018

LA: gets two A prospect to stack there pipeline

Stl: if they miss out on Tavares they desperately need a top line Center to contend.

LA: Toffoli

Dallas: Honka and 44th overall 2018

LA: gets rid of a struggling yet effective player who'd benefit from a change of scenery.

Dallas: Brings in a pretty consistent 25 goal scorer.

20 Apr 2018 14:19:50
So blues should trade the best ohl player this year and thier first for Jeff carter. 33 year old 2nd 3rd line center who missed 55 gsmes last year. That's a huge no.

20 Apr 2018 18:34:58
He’s an PPG player in the right situation he’s easily a 1st line C. What if saint Louis adds Steen and Thomas and replaces Carter with Kopitar.

20 Apr 2018 20:13:48
Thomas killing it in the ohl playoffs right now. Kyrou was best ohl player this year. I like kopitar but he will be 37 when his contract is over at 10 mil a year. Schenn performed the 1c just fine blues need a 2c but not at cost of kyrou or thomas. They are the future and cheap elc controlled contracts. Blues are better off going for Tavares or statsny. Thomas will be reday in a year or so.

20 Apr 2018 20:47:09
Overpayment on the first two but not enough for Toffoli IMO. Also does Dallas want to trade a young D with potential for a forward?

20 Apr 2018 20:57:11
Like I said if blues miss out on Tavares. Good luck going anywhere with Schenn/ stasney as a number 1c.

21 Apr 2018 00:50:16
I'm sorry but schenn has been the best center we have had in the last 5+ years. Thomas will be able to fill in top 6 very soon. Kyrou is the dynamic rw blues need besides tarasenko. SChen had 28 goals 70 pts +10. The blues dominated the league till injuries and allen crippled the team. Carter missed 57 games with injury and has never hit the 70 point mark he is 33 and when his contract ends he will be 37 38. No thanks. I do however think it's funny you suggest to trade us a center who is worse than the one the blues have for a bad contract and older player. No thanks. Good luck with kopitar, carter playing to 38.

20 Mar 2018 22:32:50
Canucks sign tavaras

Trade baertschi and a 3 rd pick

Phi simmons

Canuck grunland or hutton and a 2 rd pick for maxs domi

Sutter to the kings for a 2 or third

Delzotto for a 3 or 4

Patterson travas simmons
Domi horvat boeser
Lipsic gaudette virtanen

Dahlin tanev
Edler stecher
Pouliot guddy / juolevi biaga

20 Mar 2018 23:08:24
Holy hell man keep dreaming.

21 Mar 2018 01:45:01
Delusional as always.

21 Mar 2018 05:49:07
You think Domi has more value than Simmonds? Regardless easy no from Philly but the rest aren’t all too bad.

21 Mar 2018 11:35:10
Yeah domi is a guy losing value by the day but still worth a chance with a change of scenery, Simmonds is a really good proven commodity. Also a team destined for playoffs next year would pay a lot more for Simmonds with a year left than Canucks probably could anyway.

20 Feb 2018 09:15:07
Caps: Pearson
Kings: Burakovsky

New environment for two players that have struggled a bit this season but still have great potential. Kings need more scoring and Burakovsky gets the chance as 1st liner on Kopitars side and Pearson works in different roles as a middle 6 winger.

20 Feb 2018 15:03:31
Don’t know too much about Kings needs, but for value wise I think it’s pretty good. Good post.

04 Feb 2018 13:00:57
To la kings: halak and 2 round pick 2018 3 round pick 2019
To ny islanders: quick.

04 Feb 2018 15:58:18
In what universe does LAK consider this?
This is very bad.

04 Feb 2018 21:14:54
A cap dump and a 2nd for a 2 time Stanley cup winner and one of the best in the league. ok. How about Dustin brown and a 2nd for taveres. sound about right?

05 Feb 2018 06:49:22
As a Kings fan this personally offends me.

05 Feb 2018 16:04:10
I think you meant 2nd overall pick.

31 Jan 2018 07:57:39
To la kings: vanek
To vancouver: shore and 3 round pick 2018.

31 Jan 2018 09:34:33
Surely they can get a better pick or a better younger player in return or even both for vanek.

31 Jan 2018 14:45:38
According to bob McKenzie, Canucks have had zero interest in Vanek so far. Says teams are most likely waiting to see what happens with kane, josh bailey, Neal, Perron, Hornvqist, even maybe maroon. All those guys are UFA wingers that could be moved, obviously some more likely than others. But Canucks might have to wait for teams that missed out on those guys to come calling for Vanek as a back up plan. But if they weren’t willing to pay enough for a much better and younger player, what’s the chances they pay more than a third and a young player for a guy like Vanek?

31 Jan 2018 17:22:57
There’s always gms that over pay at everyday deadline plus there are 20 teams or so still in the playoff picture so there should eventually be interest from one team.

31 Jan 2018 18:43:03
Yeah. But teams will drop out of the picture in the coming weeks.

31 Jan 2018 19:32:37
Maybe I hope not cause it’s very fun to watch 20 plus teams be more than competitive and the thought that Chicago and Pittsburgh couldiss the playoffs is very intriguing.

29 Jan 2018 23:45:04
Canucks: Gudbranson, Hutton and Vanek

Kings: Valardi

Canucks: Dowd, Chaput and Weirchoch
Vegas: 6th round pick

Canucks: Tanev and gagner
Penguins: Maata and first round pick

30 Jan 2018 00:02:37
lol ok dream on bud.

30 Jan 2018 00:46:16
Why would Vegas want those three contracts?
Haven't all three those guys been on waivers at some point this or last year. You can't just dump off players to them, They aren't stupid. Dream on.

30 Jan 2018 03:43:53
Lol 0% chance.

30 Jan 2018 10:46:35
Vegas doesn’t have the high end talent of most teams, but they have more and better depth players than almost anyone. Why would they take 3 players that couldn’t play every night on a lot of teams?! They have veteran forwards and D better than those 3 that they have tried trading away all year.

29 Jan 2018 22:46:25
Just a thought.

Pittsburgh Trades:
Ian Cole
2018 4th Round Draft Pick

Toronto Trades:
2018 2nd Round Draft Pick (Higher of SJ/ TOR)
2019 6th Round Draft Pick
Roman Polak

Vancouver Trades:
Thomas Vanek


Pittsburgh Acquires:
Thomas Vanek
Roman Polak
2019 6th Round Draft Pick (TOR)

Toronto Acquires:
Ian Cole

Vancouver Acquires:
2018 2nd Round Draft Pick (TOR/ SJ)
2018 4th Round Draft Pick

- Pittsburgh acquires a top six winger in Vanek, who (as Sosa said) could be marvellous alongside Crosby. This allows Kessel, Malkin and Crosby to be spread across all three lines, and gives for more balanced scoring in Pittsburgh. They still are looking for a centre, however, they keep their first, second and third in the upcoming draft, meaning that they can continue to shop with those assets. Plus, Ian Cole has become a 7th dman in Pittsburgh now, not because he's bad, but because they know they won't be able to keep him after this year. To get a piece of value back for him is good (plus, Polak can be a press box guy too) .

- Toronto acquires a shutdown dman to compliment any of Gardiner, Zaitsev or Rielly. This gives them a top 6 of Rielly/ Hainsey/ Gardiner/ Zaitsev/ Cole/ Dermott. They give up a second, but they have two in the upcoming draft, so it doesn't hurt. Plus, both Cole and Hainsey know how to play true playoff defence, so both could help the Leafs win a round or two. Plus, Cole seems like a guy who Toronto would want to sign via free agency - giving him an early audition doesn't hurt.

- Vancouver acquires two picks for a guy who was supposed to be an expirement, that had all the makings of failure. If I'm them, I take it and run.

25 Jan 2018 18:45:49
To la kings: vanek
To vancouver: spencer watson, paul ladue and 3 round pick 2019


To la kings: green
To detroit: forbot, shore, prokhorkin and 2 round pick 2018


25 Jan 2018 19:12:08
I forgot 2 mil retained for green.

25 Jan 2018 20:58:54
I think we really want a first or 2 seconds for green not spare parts.

25 Jan 2018 21:48:21
Vanek on past for 65 points he'll get better offers.

25 Jan 2018 21:49:22
Also people are saying he didn't play well in mtl in the playoff in 17 games he had 5a and 5a its pretty good.

25 Jan 2018 21:59:04
BrockSolid. he really didn't play well for the Habs in those playoffs. I think a moat of those points were in games that were already over from what I remember, he got them, whrn it easier 4-1 or 4-0. during lopsided games.
When the game was tight and ya needed him to he your go to guy. he was no where to he seen.

I think Vanek is / Was and exceptional talent. and would help any team. I think he is more suited as a secondary guy. Him and Crosby could be lethal. In Montreal, he was counted on to be the main man. so maybe not fair.

23 Jan 2018 05:03:54
To la kings: karlsson
To ottawa: muzzin, forbot and 1 round pick 2018.

23 Jan 2018 06:43:32
Not enough from my Kings.

23 Jan 2018 10:50:32
Why not?

23 Jan 2018 19:07:36
Because, it's not. Lol.

20 Jan 2018 20:54:07
Possible trade deadline deals:

Mark Letestu and Mike Cammalleri to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Tom Kuhnhackl, Andrey Pedan and a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick.

Antti Raanta and Luke Schenn to the New York Islanders in exchange for Jaroslav Halak, Mitch Vande Sompel and a 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Marco Scandella and Jordan Nolan to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Leo Komarov, Jeremy Bracco and a 2018 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Evander Kane and Benoit Pouliot to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Michael Amadio, a 2018 1st Round Round Draft Pick and a 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Rick Nash (25% Retained) and Michael Grabner to the Boston Bruins in exchange for Matt Beleskey, Anders Bjork and a 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Max Pacioretty (50% Salary Retention) and David Schlemko to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for Robert Thomas, Dmitrij Jaskin, Robert Bortuzzo and a 2017 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Any of these close?

20 Jan 2018 23:03:19
If pitt gave a right handed dman Instead i think that would work better.
idk if that’s worth it for Toronto maybe just go for scandella don’t see a reason to go for Nolan.

According to buffalo gm I don’t think that’ll be enough lol but I’d say that’s fine.
Can’t see why rangers would want Belesky but that’s a good trade for Boston if they are going all in.

For Montreal I could see wanting one more piece or a better piece back than bortuzzo If patches is 50%.

21 Jan 2018 00:01:51
Ty @MJ.

21 Jan 2018 00:38:33
Stl one is bad. They are not trading robert thomas, jordan kyrou, tage thompson or Klim kostin for A RENTAL! . I get that patches has value. don't get me wrong. But he holds no value to a team where their weakness is centers and right wings and absolute strength is LW players. Blues are not 1 player away from a cup. So in this instance 3 of the 4 players are Center/ right wingers and 1 is lw/ rw. SO it doesn't make sense to deal your only prospects (with thomas being the closest) that cover a position of need. Especially with Paul Statsny being a ufa at end of the season. SO once again this will and should not happen.

21 Jan 2018 02:58:46
Redwing. You're Colt aren't you!
You're more a Blue homer than a redwing fan. Your name is a funny disguise tho.

21 Jan 2018 06:33:10
Yeah. I’m 99% sure redwing is colt.

21 Jan 2018 23:42:59
I like blues and redwings. But no one ever post about redwing trades on this board. I'm from Michigan moved to stl after highschool. All my friends are blues fans. I watch both teams but let's be honest since Babcock left they are aweful. Hard to watch.

14 Jan 2018 07:16:09
Canucks: Tanev and Gudbranson
Maple Leafs: Timothy Liljegren and conditional 2 round pick. If maple leafs go to conference finals it becomes first. Also if they sign gudbranson canucks get another 3rd round pick in 2019

Canucks: Vanek
Kings: conditional 3rd round pick: if kings go to conference final it becomes a first round pick.

14 Jan 2018 13:02:29
Liligren is not being moved.

14 Jan 2018 15:49:14
Not going to happen tanev alone could get Liljegren by add guddy they would have to many d man vanek well get way better offers this year he has 31 points in 44 games and if you look at his playoff stats there pretty good.

14 Jan 2018 18:04:55
Tanev alone does not get Lilijegreen. Even with Giddy its still a no from Tor. Lilijegreen was the steal at the draft and he will be if not better as good as EK.

14 Jan 2018 18:20:04
Lilijegreen will not be close to EK there is no way I’ve watched him play on multiple occasions and he has many faults and his offensive game dosent make up for it. He didn’t even stand out at the world Juniors dmen like Dahlen, Makar, Timmons and Mete looked atleast a class above him. Also I’d take that deal Maybe Lilijgreen will be better offensively Tanev would help us out a lot.

14 Jan 2018 18:54:24
Hahahahaha. Likjigren will not be as good as or better than Erik Karlsson. W. T. F.

14 Jan 2018 19:16:14
The problem with this trade is not value. I'm sure it's not that far in value atm since Lilijegree is not porvem yet but when you draft a guy like him, with that much potential and then you get rid of him a couple months after to fix an instant need history has always shown that you will eventually lose the trade. i'm thinking of a guy like Forsberg ( 13 overall for Erat) . And it's not like either of those player will put them over the top. So I believe that Leafs should develop this young RHD since he fits with the age group core.

14 Jan 2018 19:18:23
Not for a bust and a guy who is a total bandaid, that's for sure.

12 Jan 2018 22:40:18
To la kings: thomas vanek
To vancouver: derek forbot.

13 Jan 2018 02:51:08
straight up it's fair and mutually compensating!

13 Jan 2018 05:00:31
Throw 44 gp mitch marner has 30 pts
Vanek throw 44 game has 31 points his easly going to get firts rd pick this year.

13 Jan 2018 05:25:26
Do you not understand age and contract high as F?

13 Jan 2018 05:26:07
I'll bet you Vanek doesn't get a 1st round draft pick before this trade deadline.

13 Jan 2018 05:45:50
If jim bening can get what was a high secornd rd pick dahlen for burrows he can easly get a 1 rd pick for for vanek.

13 Jan 2018 06:27:08
Why you spell through wrong so many times. not even threw . you high?

13 Jan 2018 08:25:49
I if the canucks trade him at the trade dead line its going to be for good de prospect or 1 rd pick i bet money on it yup.

13 Jan 2018 21:19:58
10,000 dollars i think would be a fair bet.

13 Jan 2018 21:04:48
I always heard that the herb was top shelf in BC but High247 you are proving this.

06 Jan 2018 06:24:37
To la kings: green (1.5 retained)
To detroit: lafalo, forbot and 2 round pick.

30 Nov 2017 16:16:45

LAK: Valtteri Filppula (1.75 mil ret)
PHI: Nic Dowd, + Oscar Fantenberg + 2019 2nd round pick + 2018 4th round pick.

Kings need centre depth, and this gives Philly two good depth pieces in Dowd and Fantenberg.

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Pearson - Kempe - Toffoli
Gaborik - Filppula - Lewis
Jokinen - Shore - Brodzinski

Once Carter comes back then Kempe can slide to 3rd line left wing and Gabby can go to right wing.

30 Nov 2017 18:12:18
Filppula is washed up.

18 Nov 2017 15:28:17
Theoretical Habs trades for major rebuild:
Habs trade
Carey Price (50% retained)

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
John Gibson
Sam Steel
Max Jones
2018 1st
Habs trade
Max Pacioretty

Blues trade
Ivan Barbashev
Vince Dunn
2018 1st
2019 2nd
Habs trade
Alex Galchenyuk

Kings trade
Adrian Kempe
2018 1st
2018 2nd
Habs trade
Shea Weber (50% retained)

Islanders trade
Jordan Eberle
2018 2nd
2018 3rd
Habs trade
Tomas Plekanec

Flames trade
2018 2nd
2018 3rd

18 Nov 2017 16:21:52
Nice. The daily Price proposal for Saturday.

These are hilarious. Some of the worst ice ever seen.

18 Nov 2017 18:00:24
woah. what? how badly do u over value these habs players.

18 Nov 2017 18:09:19
Wow, you have officially taken the title of most delusional has fan of alltime.
Let's break this down very easily.

Prices stock is at all time low. He is injured, and next year his 10+mil contract kicks in. With that said let's break down trades.

Vatanen John gibson > price
I get that you have 50% retained but that's not going to happen. So to throw in the rest of the picks and prospets is just crazy

Patches is hood player but he is essentially a rental. On top of that Dunn as a rookie is performing very well he is projecting to be top 4 olhd. Those are just not traded. On top of all that you want barbashev middle 6 center a first round pick the blues do not have and a 2nd.
Your high my friend.

Kings need their picks more than a player that isn't even plating center or top 6 mins. Galchenyuk has been a dissapointment. Maybe worth a first but not much more unless he turns it around

Eberle has 14pts in 18 games. If nyi has any chance of resigning taveres they have to provide him with support. Besides at this point you have 6 years of 10 million in dead cap you retained in two trades.

Plek sucks nothing to see here.

18 Nov 2017 18:14:54
Holey, that Price trade is god awful for Anaheim.

Same with the STL one for STL.

This ain't a videp game. There ain't 'NHL18 TRADE VALUES'. You ain't getting that much for Patches or Price, or even plekanec for that matter.

18 Nov 2017 19:26:43
I didn’t even bother reading all of it because of how brutal the first trade was, that was pathetic.

18 Nov 2017 20:55:07
The Weber trade is hilarious.

18 Nov 2017 23:57:10
All heavely favour habs besides the Weber one. Weber 50% retained is worth a lot.

20 Nov 2017 16:32:12
Yikes. Ducks might as well throw Rakell, Getz and Perry in there. But to make it fair, have the Habs throw in a 5th rounder and make it 60% retained, then you got yourself a deal!

21 Nov 2017 11:52:11
Why would Calgary make that trade? Not to mention they don't have a second round pick.

19 Oct 2017 22:29:44
To ottawa : doughty, Duchene

To Los Angeles: turris, chlapic, Phaneuf, dzingle, barrie

To colorado : ceci, white, tofolli, dustin brown

To break it down ottawa sends Pheneuf, chlapic, and dzingle to Los Angeles for brown, and Tofoli.

Ottawa then flips brown and tofoli to Colorado with Ceci and white to get Barrie and Duchene.

Then ottawa flips Barrie along with turris to los angeles for doughty.

La needs a center now to replace Carter who likely won't be back this year, doughty wants to play with a contender which ottawa is, and Colorado gets what they want for Duchene, ottawa adds a couple pieces that could help them take the next step.

20 Oct 2017 01:07:02

20 Oct 2017 02:04:09
What have I just read.

20 Oct 2017 05:50:15
You should probably deactivate your account after that post.

20 Oct 2017 12:11:48
La gets eaten alive.

20 Oct 2017 14:22:13
Makes sense seeing as how you're a Sens fan and given that team's inability to sell out their home barn I'm guessing you've never seen a hockey game.

20 Oct 2017 17:08:55
How do you figure the kings to be shafted TopShelfSlappers? Lmfao

They lose their top defenceman doughty, a top 6 winger tofoli, and the worst contract in the trade in brown,
and in return they pick up 2 top 55 defencemen one who can log doughty like minutes in Barrie and not look out of place, and one who can solidify their 2nd pair in Phaneuf (whos contract is more benificial than browns as it expires 2 years earlier), plus they get a center who can challenge for the top spot in turris, a top 6 winger in dzingle to take toffoli spot, and a very solid prospect in chlapic. To say kings were ripped makes you dumber than a door nob.

And the Colorado end they give up a top 6 center who wants out anyway and who's value continues to drop the more sakic drags it on, and a top 4 defenceman,
In return they get their insane asking price for Duchene in top 4 defenceman Cody Ceci who has stepped up his game so far this year as expected from a young guy with the potential he has, an elite level prospect in white, and a top 6 winger in tuffoli gets Barrie do to the sens giving so much for Duchene, Colorado also takes brown as a cap dump to make it happen cap wise but in doing so they add experience and veteran leadership.

Ottawa lands an elite level defenceman in doughty that was very well payed for and basically a left handed Kyle turris with a bit more speed in Duchene.

Anyone who knows anything about hockey can tell you this is a hockey trade three ways as it benefits all 3 teams, both ottawa and Los Angeles benefit now while colorado gets a bright future which is what they are looking for in a Duchene deal anyway.

20 Oct 2017 17:19:40
Just because some of you guys under value sens players doesn't make you right about their value. Get off you nhl video games and come back to the real world and you'd notice that real life trade values differ from that of a video game counter part. Unlike some of you guys I actually do follow the sport and don't over value players like duchene based on a ridiculas asking price by his gm or under value players turris or Phaneuf based on the team they play for or a contract they signed.

I actually do my homework on players which is more than I can say for you lot. This is why I always place in top 10 of any hockey pools I join.

20 Oct 2017 17:24:01
And stinks I've been to plenty games and for the record the sens don't need to sell out to out sell the majority of the league. Top 4 in last year's playoffs, ottawa was number 1 in ticket sales out selling even a sold out pitsberg arena. So take that comment and leave it in the trash with the rest of the dirt coming out of your mouth.

20 Oct 2017 19:51:56
You definitely under value Toffoli. Easy no from LA for sure.

20 Oct 2017 20:17:51
I dunno senskill, I don't see how they outsell a full capacity penguins game when their stadium seats almost 2400 people less than pittsburghs, but I'm sure you have your own proof in your head of that. Also senators had almost 3000 empty seats for game 6 of the east final last year. That's embarrassing no matter how you slice it.

20 Oct 2017 22:08:31
Also I appreciate irony as much as the next guy and when someone calls someone else "Dummer than a door nob", not knowin himself that there's a silent K in knob, it makes me smile. Good on a Friday. Thanks senskill.

21 Oct 2017 00:22:39
i wouldn't be calling the breakdowns as players being "flipped" moreso than a straight up huge 3 team trade.

21 Oct 2017 00:57:47
Oh nice I was just wandering what I need more than anything, and a grammar lesson from someone who actually believes ottawa was out sold in ticket sales in last year's final 4 when it was actually proven they were number 1 of the 4 is just what the doctor ordered unbiasedjim.

21 Oct 2017 01:04:45
Would you trade Karlsson and Hoffman for Jeff Carter, Tyson Barrie, Tanner Pearson, Adrian Kempe and a 1st?

21 Oct 2017 01:05:44
For someone with unbiased in his user name you certainly over value certain players like tuffoli and Duchene while not giving other players, specifically sens players like turris, Phaneuf, dzingle, Ceci, and Ryan, the credit they deserve. You constantly bad mouth them based on stupidity rather than actually looking up their stats and history, or watching them play more than just 1 game. Every player might suck the odd game, that don't mean they are going to suck all the time.

21 Oct 2017 01:27:46
Duchene and turris have identical stats, histories, and in game performances in roughly the same number of games and Duchene played with better line mates for half of that time period yet a number of you somehow seem to think he's still worth more than turris. Not true.

Doughty is great yes and tuffoli is streaky at best, sort of like a poor man's Bobby ryan, add the 5 year contract of Dustin Brown to lower the value of that package and sending back turris a top 6 center at worst, Phaneuf a solid 3-4 defenceman to make up browns bad contract with one that is 2 years shorter, Barrie a proven top 4 defenceman who can log top 2 minutes, chlapic who is a top 3 or 4 prospect in ottawas system with a ton of potential, and dzingle is not that far off what tuffoli can do anyway.

Duchene worth a bit more than tuffoli, Barrie worth a bit more than Ceci, but adding white 2nd best prospect in Ottawa's system and highly sought over by other teams in the league, and the contract, leadership, and experience of Dustin Brown to the mix and it balances out.

21 Oct 2017 01:46:43
Wow you really are delusional af.

21 Oct 2017 01:54:42
Englander that's nowhere close to the same value I mentioned.

Sure doughty And karlsson are roughly the same value, but Hoffman out values tuffoli anyday due to greater point totals and consistency, Barrie in both deals cancels himself out, Pearson and dzingle are roughly the same, Phaneuf far more valuable than clempe, chlapic = a 1st round pick, while turris > carter for a number of reasons not including points per game totals as that roughly equal but rather age for instance, turris in his prime while Carter is much older and bound to go on the decline in the next couple years, plus he just suffered a season ending injury.

21 Oct 2017 08:29:00
Facelift39 lmao I'm delusional?

At least I can back my trade proposals up with cold hard facts stemming straight from nhl. com and backed with full stats and player historys as well as putting a proper value on top prospects rather than basing their value solely on the number of nhl games they've played.

Guys like you can easily make claims that my proposals are no good and that I'm delususional because of them but the fact is you guys can't back up what you're putting out there while I can with support from nhl official web site.

You continually say my trades are bad but you can't offer 1 reason why to back up your claims because you know they're not bad. Sure the odd 1 every once in a while could use some twerking but not all of them and certainly not this one.

21 Oct 2017 12:09:56
Phaneuf is the same in value as Brown. Look what Toronto took to give him to you. A 2nd, a guy shipped for Pickard and three cap dumps. His value has also dropped significantly since.

As well, we don't undervalue Dzingel and Chlapik. We just think that they are both much worse than anything else. They are the two worst assetts (apart from Brown) in The deal.

21 Oct 2017 13:51:25
Okay no Kempe>>>>Phaneuf. Phaneuf has no value and proved that when they tried to trade him away and there was no takers. And Turris is a pending UFA I’ll take carter over him anyday UFA or not.

21 Oct 2017 15:22:54
I assume I'm the guy you mean who claims to be unbiased but over values toffoli and Duchene and never once have I talked about toffoli or his value, nor am I a fan of Colorado or LA. I am as confused by that almost as much as every one of your posts. Carry on.

21 Oct 2017 15:30:06
LOL. I'm with Lindss on this one.

And yes, you're insanely delusional Senskill. It's not even funny.

21 Oct 2017 15:36:10
I've also never bad mouthed turris, Hoffman, certainly not Karlsson. I also watch quite a few senators games, 5-6 a year vs the leafs (was 8 till a cpl years ago) and a few others from time to time if I see it on. I was a guy that defended phaneuf against haters for years when he was a leaf and still like him as a player and as a guy, just makes too much money, which isn't his fault at all. Blame leafs management for giving it to him, and sens management for taking it on.

You are so defensive that you will make up what other people say to make them seem like the bad guy when in reality, as the comments from everyone that isn't you on this thread shows, you're out to lunch on player evaluations. I would like you to find where I bad mouthed any senator player.

Leafs traded phaneuf for a 2nd round pick, a C level prospect and 3 cap dumps to the sens. And you said you could move his 4 years at 7 mill straight up for James Neal. let's figure out who overvalues his own teams assets while diminishing others. Once James Neal arrives in Ottawa you will say he's a former 40 goal scorer on a good contract and 'flip' him for doughty. But kings wil have to add a small incentive because doughty has an extra year at more money, right?

21 Oct 2017 15:36:30
"This is why I place top 10 in any hockey pools I join"
LMAO! Nomination for quote of the year right there.

Cold hard facts? Your players values are coming off your OPINIONS. Dude. And you're WAY off its crazy.
You embarrass yourself bro. They ARE bad. Very very very bad! Constantly BAD! Lol!

21 Oct 2017 15:42:28
Just read too that you said browns bad contract brings down the value of toffoli and doughty in the package coming to the sens. but then when you flip him to Colorado, his 'leadership and experience' is all of a sudden an asset LOL come on man. The contract gets better and his attributes go up in the 15 minutes he's a senator? Of course they do.

22 Oct 2017 18:47:33
Chlapic and dzingle the lowest value in the trade? Lmfao clearly you're the delusional one if you actually believe that topshelfslapper lol

Dzingles rookie season sees him land top 6 minutes in a number of games and 32 points in 80 games as well as being regarded as one of the fastest players in the league while chlapic is an easy B+/ A- prospect at this point and proved he can hang in this year's preseason.

23 Oct 2017 17:24:01
Oh and besides that, how often, in real life not video games, do you see a trade involving a superstar or 2 going one way and the same number of superstars with equal value going back?

The answer is maybe like 15% of the time. The other 85% of the time it's the best offer to come along because

1 - a player demands a trade because they don't want to play there anymore (like in Duchene case)

2 - a player wants to be traded because they want to win and feel their team is not capable of doing so and would rather be somewhere that can (as stated by doughty earlier this year)

3 - team is looking to rebuild using draft picks and rookies

4 - to make room for a huge free agent signing

5 - to move up in a draft

6 - to dump salary

Etc etc etc

Point is majority of the trades that actually happen are usually trades that involve a super star on one side but not necessarily on the other which is why you have no choice at times but look look at the values of top picks and prospects to or impact a player has on a team or role they play.

For instance they way you make deals I could see you accepting a deal if I offered you Matt Duchene for the guarenteed 1st overall pick in the current years draft but any smart gm would laugh in my face at that offer and tell me to add more if i wanted to be considered as that pick is more valuable down the road.

19 Oct 2017 22:00:59
So Carter is most likely out for the season meaning the kings will most likely need to replace him if they hope to make playoffs.

To ottawa : doughty, duchesne

To Los Angeles : turris, phaneuf, chlapic,1st round pick, barrie.

19 Oct 2017 22:09:10
how bout Galchenyuk + 1st for Karlson + a guy from another team coming from nearly nowhere

Keep it up!

19 Oct 2017 22:14:39
Wtf is this? Where did barrie and Duchene come from? Either way it's garbage.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:32
Clicked to fast not the full post.

19 Oct 2017 22:38:22
Oh god. And I don't even want to know what Colorado gets. These type of deals just don't happen. This is a complete dream world.

19 Oct 2017 23:22:17
i said before if you think your sens are that good keep them.

20 Oct 2017 01:05:03
Don't bother posting the rest. This is atrocious.

20 Oct 2017 17:27:53
Full trade is above clicked by accident on this one.

24 Sep 2017 23:54:28
Will never happen but let's get some thoughts.

1st off

To ottawa : duchesne

To colorado : Ceci, white, perron, and a 2019 conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Colorado builds for the future while ottawa goes all in now by going for one more trade.

To ottawa : doughty

To Los Angeles : turris, Wideman, paul, and a 1st round pick in 2018

Ottawa uses turris, the pick, and big prospect nick Paul to upgrade Wideman and replace ceci. Doughty gets to go to a cup contender while the kings get a decent top 4 replacement in wideman, a solid 1st or 2nd line center in turris, a big prospect in Paul and a 1st round pick.

Ottawa goes for a big cup run

Hoffman duchesne Ryan
Smith brassard stone
Brown pageau dzingle
Rienhart Thompson burrows
Wingles chlapic

Chabot karlsson
Phaneuf doughty
Claeson harbour


Turris contract almost up anyway why not upgrade him long term with duchesne and make the rush that much easier by adding one of karlsson's toughest rivals a team mate all while keeping the biggest defence prospect as well in Chabot. Think of what Chabot could learn from doughty and karlsson. If doughty deal falls through go the other defence route and try for pietrangelo but change the 1st to a 2nd.

25 Sep 2017 04:57:22
Lol wow this post is something else.
Doughty trade is cringe worthy! That Petro backup plan offer is just laughable.
The "duchesne" (LMAO at spelling, sorry) trade isn't even that bad (needs better quality tho imo), I don't what you drank or took in the time between you finishing your 1st trade and starting your 2nd but I want in.

25 Sep 2017 05:20:15
You're not getting a prime aged Norris D man with 2 years left on his deal without your top 2 prospects plus plus in it. Nick Paul isn't on anyone's radar as a top prospect, he's a decent project, the first isn't going to be a good one, and turris as a first or second center? Where did Anze kopitar and Jeff carter go? Lol.

25 Sep 2017 11:00:55
Both trades are just horrid.

25 Sep 2017 16:14:26
"Will never happen but let's get some thoughts" Lol!

You're delusional for posting this. Straight up very delusional for even thinking, then posting this.

25 Sep 2017 16:21:26
Turris has been just as good as Carter for the last 5 years if not better lol 5 of 7 years turris had better stats than Carter on a weaker team 2016 Carter had much better stats and 2017 Carter was a little bit better but at the same time turris was adjusting to a new system under Boucher and didn't fall behind by much. So again given the age of Carter and kopitar and the decline that's bound to happen, yes top 1 or 2 center is expected from turris. And lots of teams covet a big body prospect like Paul to play their Checking lines. Add a 1st and a dman who could slip in on top 4 on Los Angeles easily and still get better, please tell me how that's a bad deal?

And duchesne deal basically gives sakic exactly what he wants in Ceci (top 4 dman with tons of potential who can log big minutes now), white (an elite level prospect center), and even sweetened the pot more by adding perron (mid level prospect with an upside) and a conditional drat pick based on how far into the playoffs the sens go.

I know something like this prob never happen but not because it's not fair value because it is more than fair value, but rather because teams now are far too complacent and won't try more than one blockbuster deal every so many years for the fear of losing team chemistry.

25 Sep 2017 16:34:34
Fact - duchesne wants out of Colorado ( his value drops due to attitude, getting closer to contract expirey, and due to situation being dragged on too long )

Fact - doughty went on record saying it's things don't get better in Los Angeles and they can't continue to be cup contenders then he wants to go to a cup contender team.

Fact - ottawa is coming of a season where if not for a blown call in the 1st overtime against pitsbergh on what was clearly a loose puck in blue paint in game 7 the would have been in the finals and probably would have beat Nashville to win the cup.

Fact - ottawa has 2 blue chip prospects taking the spots of Neil and methot and really making a name for themselves in the preseason in brown and Chabot.

Fact - add doughty and duchesne to the mix and yes the cup would be in reach. With guys like karlsson doughty and Chabot getting the play out of our end and setting up duchesne Ryan stone and Hoffman on the other end, yeah they'd have a great chance to put the doubters to rest.

25 Sep 2017 16:47:44
Oh and Unbiased Jim,

a 1st round pick is just as valuable as a top end prospect if the team has a competent scouting staff.

Also note that a top 6 / top 3 center in the prime of his career is the same or more value than a top level prospect and a top 4 d man or top 6 winger.

Throw in a young top 4 quality dman with time to grow and get better yet, tell me, what is the problem?

You people talk all this trash about my posts and proposals yet most of the time you post something so one sided against ottawa that it's cringeworthy lol. Sorry if I like both teams to benefit and not have my team torn a new one.

25 Sep 2017 17:18:07
You will need to offer up quite a bit more for Doughty. He's that good. The Duchesne offer looks reasonable but I don't know if I'd do that if I were Ottawa tbh. That's a lot of depth to give up for an up and coming team.

25 Sep 2017 17:39:40
Facts 3 and 5 aren't factual, fact 4 is irrelevant. the duchene trade is god awful for ottawa, can't believe you're a sens fan and would suggest that. the doughty trade is a complete joke for the kings, laughable at best.

25 Sep 2017 18:50:30
The duchesne offer is based around the premise of entising doughty even more so to waives his no trade clause to come to ottawa and guarrentee a trade for duchesne.

How would you have to offer more for doughty? That makes no sense.

A top 3/ 6 prime age center
A 1st round pick
A young prospect age defenceman who can play top 4 on the kings now
And a mid to top tier big body prospect

In what world is that not enough? Lol I'd get it if turris weren't the center piece coming back but he is, and he is a big enough piece to help the kings now and in the future lol.

Heck the preds landed subban for Weber straight up when Weber is up there in age and on the decline lol pretty sure kings end up better off in this one, while ottawa forms the deadliest blue line in hockey today and add a true number 1 center in the process.

Yes doughty is awesome but he's not karlsson level and arguably his last norris trophy is questionable a best as karlsson had him beat no doubt and he's coming off his worst season of his career to date and on record saying he does care if it's the kings or any other team he just wants to win. Loyalty in question and results (stats wise) in question after last season do drop his value a bit.

25 Sep 2017 19:01:01
Facelift39 lmfao what part of any of those facts are not factual? Go back and watch ot1 game 7, it's hard to miss the blown whistle at the wrong time with turris ready to pop in the game winner from blue paint with goalies back to him an whistle is blown, fact pits should have lost there.

They arguably should have beat the so called champs without brown chabot duchesne and doughty additions making them a bigger threat with them.

With power play units quarterbacks by karlsson and Chabot on 1 and doughty and Phaneuf on the other and led by duchesne Ryan and brown on one and brassard stone and Hoffman on the other there would be no stopping a goal from happening as the 2nd line is just as dangerous as the 1st.

25 Sep 2017 20:02:52
Oh god. You wrote so much delusional crapmin your original post I'm not even considering reading any of this.

25 Sep 2017 21:14:22
Senskill. when you say the senators "probably" would have beat nashville, or the addition of doughty and duchene would give the senators a great chance to put doubters to rest, or pittsburgh "shouldve" lost there. those aren't facts dummy.

26 Sep 2017 17:50:51
Ok so 2 of the 3 are probabilities but the one about ottawa should've beat pitsbergh is a cold hard fact. No way turris misses an open net game winner from inside the blue paint while the goalies back is turned in the 1st overtime when the whistle was blown prematurely as soon as murray touched the puck. No 2 or 3 second wait or nothing. Fact ottawa is the real east conference winner not shitsberg.

26 Sep 2017 17:59:20
And old trades that say the doughty trade is a great fair value deal, I've got 3.


Jack Johnson straight up for Jeff Carter. (Johnson was doughty number 2 and only got Carter, turris is just as good as Carter if not better, and younger, plus a 1st, a top 4 quality young defenceman and the big role player that every team needs at least 1 or 2 of.

2 -

Seth Jones for Ryan Johansson straight up.

3 - kevin shattenkirk for Chris Stewart and nobodies.

16 Sep 2017 18:22:45

LAK: Lee Stempniak

CAR: Jordan Nolan, conditional 2019 3rd and 2018 4th round pick

*Condition if Stempniak puts up 40 points and Kings make playoffs pick is 2nd.

I just noticed Carolina's depth chart and they have Stempniak penciled on the 4th line because of their insane wing depth so they could spare Stempniak and use the picks for a player that won't do much for them.
Kings get a solid wing player who can score decently which we desperately need.

16 Sep 2017 23:24:22
Seems fair to me, and makes sense for both teams imo. Stempniak could be a middle 6 F in LA, Nolan provides some good grit and toughness for a young Canes team. good post.

03 Sep 2017 16:59:41
Nic Dowd to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Derrick Pouliot, Tom Sestito and a 2018 3rd Round Pick.

- Dowd can play third line centre for the Penguins, and may get 35+ points playing on a good team.
- Pouliot can help a depleted dcorps in Los Angeles, and can actively step into a top 4 role.

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