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20 Sep 2017 21:30:58
MTL) Galchenyuk, 2x2d
EDM) RNH + Nurse

Is this fair for both teams?

20 Sep 2017 22:27:08
Take nurse out and edmonton still says no. in my opinion the oilers would likely say no to galchenyuk straight up for RNH, adding nurse just spaces out the offer even further.

21 Sep 2017 01:54:37
Close value wise but I can't see the Oilers being able or willing to put Nurse in this deal. And, Montreal won't do a Galchenyuk for Nuge deal straight across.

21 Sep 2017 02:35:34
Ridiculous you ever thought this was good for oil lol.

18 Sep 2017 11:08:40
R.Nugent-Hopkins for R.Murray

Then, flip Murray & a prospect or high pick to Winnipeg for Trouba

R.Murray + Pick/Prospect for J.Trouba

Winnipeg gets a needed LHD
Edmonton gets a needed RHD
Trouba gets his wish and leaves Winnipeg

Win Win needs Situation

O.Klefbom - J.Trouba
A.Sekera - A.Larsson
D.Nurse - K.Russell

18 Sep 2017 15:24:28
trouba never said he wanted to leave wpg. He didn't want to play leftside and wants shot at top 4 def.

18 Sep 2017 21:54:19
Well, he did ask to be traded last offseason and I guess he might still want to be.

19 Sep 2017 03:41:40
Might fit team needs but I don't think Oil should have to give up RNH+ for Trouba.

19 Sep 2017 13:51:37
@Ebsolutely. I'm not an RNH hater, I think he is a good player, but you definitely add to RNH to get trouba. To get a young RHD that can play all situations and put up some offense too, you're going to have to pay. Trouba probably offers a little more all round game than Larson but maybe not quite as sound defensively, both would be similar age at trade time and Larson cost the oilers Taylor Hall. Hall is a top 5-10 LW in the game. RNH isn't a top 30 center. Chiarelli set the market price on these types of deals with that trade and has made it difficult for other teams to make them, he is not exempt from it now.

19 Sep 2017 14:41:18
There is a need for an add to RNH for Trouba. Especially since Winnipeg has depth at centre with Little and Scheif locked up.

19 Sep 2017 17:46:46
It would take at least a 1st rounder with Nuge to get Trouba maybe even a decent prospect.
But Winnipeg has no interest in Nige with Schiffle and Little locked up as mentioned above. Would have to be a third team involved.

19 Sep 2017 22:01:16
There is a third team mentioned in the trade above. I believe he has nuge going to columbus, Ryan Murray and an unnamed prospect to Winnipeg for trouba to the oil.

20 Sep 2017 01:41:24
Okay fair enough Unbiased Jim. If Nuge has the same season as last your right. I guess that's his value now but I feel he has better numbers in him.

18 Sep 2017 00:30:18
Edmonton
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- 2nd
Minnesota
- Mathew Dumba
Toronto
- Tyler Bozak

TOR - 2nd
MIN - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
EDM - Mathew Dumba, Tyler Bozak

18 Sep 2017 22:41:59
Nuge > Dumba, Minnesota needs to give up more IMO.

18 Sep 2017 00:27:22
Edmonton
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Minnesota:
- Matthew Dumba

17 Sep 2017 22:25:41
EDM:
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
CLB:
- Ryan Murray

17 Sep 2017 23:06:57
Edm doesn't need left D. Stop with these type of trades.
Unless there was a third team involved that Edm could flip Murray to, then sure.

18 Sep 2017 01:04:37
Edm absolutely needs def. Not saying this is their ideal trade but they have a very weak def. if Talbot falters or gets hurt, it will be a very long year for the Oil yet again. He was lights out last year but ridden extraordinarily hard.

18 Sep 2017 17:17:51
No. Edm does not need LEFT D. Sure they could maybe use a right handed D. But not a lefty that Murray is. Read my comment, understand it, then respond. You're such a broken record oiler hater Borje is so old.
Their D and Talbot are just fine. Get over it.

19 Sep 2017 01:01:54
I read it. For the life of me I can't understand your arrogance. If a team has 4 quality left shot def, they take them. And move oneto the rt side. Is that hard for you to understand? Best def of all time had Robinson, lapointe, Salvarsan, langway, engblom. All left.

19 Sep 2017 06:57:50
When was that? You think the game is the same now? Wow you're an idiot. Sorry.

19 Sep 2017 17:34:05
Is the year the Ducks got Nidermeyer despite their top 5 def already being left handed recent enough? How did that work out?

19 Sep 2017 17:38:09
How about the 2010Pens having 5 of their top 6 left handed? Not recent enough? You get the best players possible in def no matter which way they shoot unles you are the gm of course.

19 Sep 2017 22:02:12
I would have agreed with you before they resigned Russell to 4 years, Which I really disliked by the way.
But you're just a hater and wouldn't understand all the other reasons, i. e: they really like Benning. So there's no point in having a conversation with you.
I stand with my last comment.

19 Sep 2017 23:10:46
Isn't Bennington a right shot? He shouldn't be in the discussion based on your rigid philosophy. He's better than all but possibly two of your def. you have a chance to improve your team, you do it. Hater or not.

17 Sep 2017 03:33:04
Minor Deal Thought:

Mark Fayne and Jujhar Khaira to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for a conditional 6th Round Pick

*Condition:
Mark Fayne plays in 50+ games with NJ - pick becomes a 2018 6th Round Pick
Mark Fayne plays in fewer than 50 games with NJ - no pick transacted.

- New Jersey is so depleted on the backend that they could use someone like Mark Fayne as a 5/ 6 guy, despite his hefty contract and limited skillset.
- They also acquire Khaira, who could provide depth to a relatively top-heavy offensive core in NJ.
- Edmonton adds valuable cap space at a minimal cost (giving up Khaira) : cap space that could be used at the deadline to beef up the team for a playoff run.
- Khaira is easily replaceable in the system, and at best, will become a third liner for the Devils.

17 Sep 2017 04:41:36
Can't see Devils doing it.

17 Sep 2017 04:52:13
No way from Edm. Keeping Jujhar
He will play a lot this session. Then full time nex season when Letestu is maybe gone.

17 Sep 2017 21:56:57
Fayne is buried in the minors. They don't need to trade Jujhar away for just a conditional 6th to get rid of Faynes contract. This is terrible the more I think about it. They value Jujhar a lot more than this believe it or not.

18 Sep 2017 11:22:08
Lol come on yup. Jujhar is the equvelant of like Josh Leivo, if i could send Leivo and Lupul put for a 6th, i'd do it. Not everyone has as much value as you think.

13 Sep 2017 22:25:52
Ok guys don't get upset with me I'm trying things :

Trade 1:
EDM) Gets Gallagher, McNiven, 1st, 2d, 3d
MTL) Gets RNH, 4th

Trade 2:
FLA) Gets Galchenyuk, 2d (might need to add more... please let me know)
MTL) Gets Huberdeau, Matheson, 3d

Edm get a potential Elite Goalie cus Talbot isn't young and get a winger in Gally

Florida gets a really interesting player in Chucky

Habs lineup:

Pacioretty Danault Drouin
Huberdeau RNH Lehkonen
Hudon Plekanec Hemsky
Byron Martinsen Shaw

Alzner Webber
Matheson Petry
Sclemko/Jerabek/Morrow Benn

Price Lindgren/Montoya

Thoughts?

14 Sep 2017 00:51:05
I think the first trade sounds like a lot to give up for habs as far as draft picks and also have heard oilers would prefer a defence in return for RNH. the panthers would never do the second trade, that huberdeau is a decent player.

14 Sep 2017 01:00:53
Florida laughs at you.

14 Sep 2017 01:18:04
Overpayment for nuge and an underpaymemt for Matheson & Huberdeau

14 Sep 2017 03:09:25
Lol you high/ trolling? No way Chucky gets Hubs and Matheson.

14 Sep 2017 03:34:11
That first trade is horrendous for the Habs. Nuge has had 6 years in the league and capped off an 18 goal season with 0 goals in 13 playoff games playing against third liners. He's not what Montreal needs.

14 Sep 2017 03:34:29
First one is too much from the habs for sure. Second one isn't near enough from the habs.

14 Sep 2017 12:23:01
Ok switch the 1st to Florida trade?

13 Sep 2017 04:49:51
Edmonton:
James Neal LW
Colin Miller D
2nd 2020

Vegas:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C


Detroit:
3rd 2020
3rd 2019
Brayden McNabb D

Vegas:
Johan Franzen C
Riley Sheahan LW
1st 2018

13 Sep 2017 10:37:50
I think the Golden Knights loose both trades, especially the second one. In my opinion McNabb is the best Player in the trade. The first is at least the compensation for taking on Franzen, so it's basically McNabb + 2x3rds for Sheahan, which in my opinion is an overpayment.

13 Sep 2017 12:11:45
Edm don't need old Neal.

13 Sep 2017 22:49:05
Vegas won't be giving up picks.

14 Sep 2017 00:58:36
Doubtful the wings would be surrendering their 2018 first round pick as well.

14 Sep 2017 05:34:02
Honestly the Oilers trade has me really intrigued but don't know if the cap will work out.

14 Sep 2017 13:20:09
When Franzen doesn't hit their cap because of LTIR why are people obsessed with DET giving up a likely top 10 pick to move him?

12 Sep 2017 21:15:39
Gallagher + Scherbak for RNH

MTL : May not want to give up Scherbak
EDM : May not want to trade RNH cus he could become first center but there's no room for him and perhaps MTL might not be the best trade partner

So let me know your opinions guys please

12 Sep 2017 22:58:29
If Nuge is getting traded it's likely for a offensive dman.

13 Sep 2017 00:01:52
Sounds fair to me, but idk if mtl wants to trade gallagher. maybe wait to see what galchenyuk does this year or if drouin ends up taking some draws, maybe mtl won't be so bad in the circle as everyone thinks.

13 Sep 2017 04:25:21
Mtl is really weak down the middle. RNH would help them a lot. Galchenyuk is going to play wing as mentioned by GM.

12 Sep 2017 13:59:32
Hampus Lindholm, Kevin Bieksa, Logan Shaw and a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick and to the Boston Bruins in exchange for David Pastrnak (signed to 7 year/ 7 million per year deal) and Adam McQuaid.

- Anaheim beefs up their attack to contend with a beefy Edmonton Oiler offence. This will make the Pacific division title a race, as otherwise, it seemed a given that Edmonton would win.

- Anaheim loses a big piece of their defence, however, with Jacob Larsson, Cam Fowler, Sami Vatanen, Brandon Montour and Josh Manson in place, their defense still looks fine for the future.

- Of course, Anaheim would HATE to give up Lindholm, however, in order to get a 75 point guy, who is only getting better, ya got to give up something good.

- Boston loses the biggest and flashiest part of their offence, however, they acquire a dman who will compliment Charlie McAvoy and Torey Krug in the future.
- Lindholm is a solid dman who will be able to produce offence from the backend, and will allow Boston to produce a good defence core - something they have been lacking for a while now.

& don't tell me that Anaheim can just give up Fowler for Pasta. Lindholm will HAVE to go in order to get Pasta. Unless Sweeney is crazy. Which is entirely possible as well.

12 Sep 2017 14:05:09
Don't think bruins win a trade for Pasternak but this is definitely the best one I have seen. At least makes you weigh the options. Only thing is I feel that if a 7x7 deal was possible, they wouldn't trade him. Then again, seguin, kessel and Hamilton never saw a second contract because bruins wouldn't get off their wallet, so it's possible I guess lol.

12 Sep 2017 14:20:49
I can't see the Bruins doing it because they really only have like 5 players players that can get goals (Bergeron, Pasternak, Marchand, Vatrano, and Krejci)

12 Sep 2017 15:06:07
@Jim


thanks man. I read that Boston only wants 6 mil x 7 and aren't budging much. Maybe if the new deal is 7.5 x 7?

12 Sep 2017 20:58:11
I think 7.5 is perfect. He's a lot more of a game breaker than horvat who got 5.5, and he's more important to his team than most comparable guys because bruins best offensive weapons from their better days (Bergeron, krejci) are on the wrong side of 30. Draisatls 8.5 is higher because he can play multiple positions and run his own line. 6,7 or 8 years at 7.5 should be fair.

10 Sep 2017 23:21:43
MTL: Galchenyuk
EDM: RNH + Klefbom

11 Sep 2017 00:49:06
W. T. F. ?
Did you forget a few pieces from Montreal?
This is pure crap. Delusion at its finest.

11 Sep 2017 01:45:40
Edmonton will not be trading Klefbom or Larson. I could see this being Nuge plus a prospect def perhaps.

11 Sep 2017 02:29:05
Lol no from Edmonton big time

11 Sep 2017 02:56:59
Most definitely not enough add Draisatl then M. V. Will accept.

11 Sep 2017 05:41:42
Add Draisaitl? Ahahah

11 Sep 2017 05:42:26
I think to get Galchenyuk maybe R.Nugent-Hopkins + E.Bear but I wouldn't even do it. He's not much of an upgrade from nuge

11 Sep 2017 15:06:33
Galchenyuk hasn't proven he's a center in the league yet, forget a good one. RNH will probably have underwhelming offensive numbers for a lot of his career, but anyone can see he's a good 2 way forward that could play an important role on any team. Only a year or 2 age difference too. I'd say straight up wouldn't be a bad deal if it solves both teams needs. Problem is oilers have lots of fire power. That defensive side of RNHs game is more important. Cap hit would be only reason to do it.

11 Sep 2017 19:46:32
Hahahahahahahahahah wtf did I just read omg pathetic.

11 Sep 2017 22:42:06
Lol, like if Galchenyuk would get you even half of Klefbom, let alone him and RNH.

10 Sep 2017 20:37:14
This is a risk :
MTL: Chucky + 1st
EDM: RNH + Klefbom

Thoughts?

11 Sep 2017 00:49:32
You're delusional as all hell.
That's not a thought it's a fact.

11 Sep 2017 13:03:26
You think that's a risk from the habs? Lol.

11 Sep 2017 19:50:32
Oilers wouldn't give you Klefbom for a 1st and chucky imo.

11 Sep 2017 22:22:26
RNH will be dumped for next to nothing (kids) . Too many players need to be singed next season.

12 Sep 2017 04:25:58
Agreed that Nuge is very overrated by Oiler fans but Klefbom is developing into the type of def you just don't part with unless you are in a rebuilding situation which the Oilers are not. Plus, he's on a good contract.

08 Sep 2017 08:14:24
Edm:
-nugent Hopkins
- Ryan Mantha
- 2019 3rd round pick

Mtl
-2018 1st round pick
-Noah juulsen
-2020 -2nd rd pick.

08 Sep 2017 10:44:29
How is this good for Edmonton

08 Sep 2017 13:31:54
The only way this is even close is if oilers feel habs are going to be BAD. Not just miss playoffs, but be a top 6 or 8 pick. Tough to give up a known quantity in RNH for a hope and a prayer.

09 Sep 2017 16:11:24
@leafsfan11 Cap space for the pilers.

07 Sep 2017 01:25:55
John Tavares and Nikolai Kulimen to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for Tyler Johnson, Slater Koekkoek, Cal Foote, Eric Condra, a 2018 1st Round Pick and a 2019 2nd Round Pick.

Tampa Bay gets a 1/ 2 punch down the middle that will be the rival of only Pittsburgh, and could propel Tampa to their second Stanley Cup in Franchise history.
Tavares, Stamkos, Hedman and Kucherov will be unrivalled.

New York gets a replacement centre in Johnson, who is a step down, but it is still possible that he hits 50-60 points. Cal Foote was a first rounder, who could possibly become a solid top 4 dman. Slater Koekkoek could be a good top 6 dman, who could become better as he matures. A 1st is always nice, and getting rid of Kulimen is a plus.

*This trade would only happen at the deadline. Right now, New York holds the leverage, and obviously, Tavares would garner more. However at the deadline, if Tavares obviously doesn't want to stay, its better to get something, than nothing for him. It will be less, but this is still something.

07 Sep 2017 06:33:29
Ya Tampa doesn't touch that without a decent value extension in place. that's an absolute ton to give up. I realize it would take a lot to get Tavares but all that for a half season?

07 Sep 2017 11:29:21
@jbs

Could get you a cup tho. I mean, Tavares is a huge boost over Johnson.

Plus, the big pieces are Foote, a 1st and Johnson. Isn't that kinda similiar to everyone else posting like Galchenyuk/ Juulsen/ 1st? only reason i went with TB instead is because Tavares to TB makes them more of a legitimate cup contender than Tavares to MTL.

07 Sep 2017 12:28:09
Either extension in place and even then it's debatable whether - from a TB point of view - giving up all those assets is worth grading up from TJ to JT OR simply go after him in the off-season without giving up anything.

06 Sep 2017 15:38:48
Buffalo:
Jimmy Howard G

Detroit:
Chad Johnson G
3rd 2019

Edmonton:
Darren Helm C
Mike Green D

Detroit:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
2nd 2019
3rd 2018

Arizona:
Frans Nielsen C
2nd 2018
2nd 2019

Detroit:
Christian Fischer RW
3rd 2020

Detroit signs Andreas Athanasiou and rebuild this year selling off at trade deadline...

06 Sep 2017 15:44:56
Lol. Not a chance by Edm. Take out the pics and I still say no. Especially if they sign Franson. Zero need for Green. Maybe they take a shot at Green at deadline for a pick. But don't expect Nuge back in a deal for those two. Wow.

And Arizona is fine at center now after acquiring Stepan.

Buffalo is going with Lehner.

These are bad.

05 Sep 2017 23:15:25
-Flames and Bennet and Red Wings and Athanasiou are both far apart with their teams for contract nagotiations. Both reportedly shopping KHL contracts to pressure clubs.

-Cody Franson apperently deciding between Oilers and Blackhawks.

-Jagr could be preparing to stay in the Czech and play for Klando and the Olympics.

-Pasternak and his agent keep using Drias $8.5M as a comparable and demanding more than Boston is offering (believed to be $6M per for 6 years) . This nagotiation is maybe getting ugly.

-Horvat and Canuks could be announcing a signing in the next few days.

06 Sep 2017 02:40:42
Franson would be nice addition oil, upgrade over Gryba for sure.

06 Sep 2017 03:00:36
I think Pasternak at 7.5 would be fair. Draisatl being able to either ride shotgun with mcdavid or center his own line gives him a bit of a premium. But 6 million just wouldn't cut it if I were pasta either. And Franson was a guy i hated to see leave the leafs but we got a first, a prospect and a 5th or something for him so they had to. I would be glad to bring him back on the cheap because our RD is weak. But oilers would be a good fit too.

06 Sep 2017 15:46:51
-Duchane also didn't attend first captains practice yesterday. Landeskog was a little disappointed. But it's looking like Duchane will be traded within the month here.

-Horvats deals looking to be around 5/ 6 years between around $5.5M per.

07 Sep 2017 02:40:03
Duchene was at a wedding, lots of players weren't there.

28 Aug 2017 20:47:39
3 Team Trade

Canucks get Benson.T, Bear.E, Leivo.J
Oilers get JVR, Cassels.C
Leafs get Tanev.C, Rattie.T

Canucks get young prospects to help the rebuild next year
Oilers get more scoring for the year before the new deals kick in
Leafs get shutdown dman to play key minutes

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Hyman

Reilly-Tanev
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Carrick

Yes I know the Leafs brought in Hainsey to play with Reilly but realistically can he still play top pairing minutes all season, he was sheltered a bit with the Pens

28 Aug 2017 23:34:45
Wow really bad for Vancouver here, also Oilers just signed Rattie, doubt he gets traded this quick.

29 Aug 2017 02:41:19
The Oilers aren't trading Bear and Benson for one year of JVR. Not a chance.
Especially giving those two to divisional rival Vancouver.
Just leave Edm out of this deal and Toronto should try and get Tanev. I've always thought he would be a good fit in Toronto.

29 Aug 2017 05:18:26
Yeah solid no from oil wow.

29 Aug 2017 17:43:27
Really bad for Van. Benson is not even in WHL camp as he is hurt yet again.

29 Aug 2017 18:11:37
I know Benny personally and I see him at the bars in Edmonton and my god the guy is chapped about his injuries it's like never ending.

29 Aug 2017 21:42:42
He's really has some bad luck. First noticed him as a bantam. Absolutely tore it up when he was younger.

30 Aug 2017 20:34:20
Well he set the record for most points in bantam in Alberta so I'd have to agree. Very promising if he can heal up.

27 Aug 2017 15:41:30
Edm: RNH
Mtl: Gallagher + Lindgren

Maroon-McDavid-Gallagher
Lucic-Draisaitl-Strome

Klefbom-Larson
Russel-Sekera

Talbot
Lindgren

27 Aug 2017 22:39:45
Montreal fans think that Gallagher can get them a big return. If he could they would have already traded him.

28 Aug 2017 22:00:54
How much value does this lindgren Guy that I've been hearing so much about carry? Why not just RNH for gallagher straight up?

04 Sep 2017 03:01:44
Could say the same for oilers and RNH and big return? RNH yea ok!

25 Aug 2017 22:25:15
Arizona:
Johan Franzen LW
Riley Sheahan LW
Jonathan Ericsson D
2nd 2019

Detroit:
Nick Cousins C
3rd 2019
4th 2020

Edmonton:
Tomas Tatar RW
3rd 2020

Detroit:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
2nd 2019

25 Aug 2017 23:56:01
Hahaha why would Arizona take on 2 cap dumps and Sheahan? They're an analytics teams with a good young core comin up. I say hell naw ftom Zona.

26 Aug 2017 00:04:45
Aside from Tatar being better, he makes over $1million less a year and Detroit is in cap trouble.

26 Aug 2017 21:13:35
On what planet is Oilers giving more are u serious.

23 Aug 2017 15:35:10
Think this was mentioned in the past but now that Draisaitl is locked up, maybe this trade will work.

EDM; Gallagher

MTL; RNH

Oilers need a RW and MTL needs a C.

23 Aug 2017 18:41:38
Hate to see Gallagher leave, but if that would do it, then I think Habs would have to do it. RNH would be the number one center, I believe. Not in same class as what Leafs, Pens. ect have, but if we could have RNH. possibly Galchenyuk and Danault as top 3 centers. doesn't look so bad.

23 Aug 2017 20:09:05
The Habs need to find a way to add up front without losing. Nuge would be worth the gamble despite his lacklustre stats even at $6. But, Gallagher is just too big of a price imo.

23 Aug 2017 21:17:58
Gallagher is a good player but he's far from a top line winger. He's never had over 50 points and has had trouble staying healthy. Rnh is well worth it for the habs, their center corps is a joke.
.

24 Aug 2017 03:40:39
Can't see a reason why Montreal wouldn't do that . I don't think Gallagher is too much to offer but unfortunately I don't think Oilers really need a RW. Drat/ Strome, slepy, puljujarvi (when he's ready), Kassian, Yamamoto one day? Gallagher is a good player but Oilers need somebody else and there's nobody on Montreal that could be offered that'll help edmonton.

 
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