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15 Aug 2018 18:26:32
WPG: Kulikov
EDM: 6th Round Pick 2019

Edmonton gets a player that can fill in while Sekera is injured. Jets move a defenceman and a cap hit without giving up any prospects or picks.

15 Aug 2018 20:10:21
Kulikov is slightly overpriced but I'd rather him than a 6th. Right now.

15 Aug 2018 20:09:52
Your fellow peg fans aren’t going to like this. Because last week they said kulikov was better than Gardiner and Zaitsev amd I wouldn’t think about moving either of them for less than a prospect and a 2nd.

15 Aug 2018 20:59:56
Moving Kulikov would save the Jets $4.3 mil this season which would make a trade to the Oilers feasible, but they would want a 3rd or 4th round pick. The Jets would have Morrow and Poolman that could easily take Kulokov's place on the 3rd pairing.

15 Aug 2018 21:11:30
I'd rather just keep Kulikov for the depth. There are always injuries during the year and Kulikov can help keep Chiarot and Morrow from playing too many minutes. Losing the depth for a 6th round pick isn't worth it.

16 Aug 2018 18:38:28
I think that if kulikov could quite getting hurt he'd be a decent partner for buff or Myers. Bring some defence to one of them but that's a big if.

16 Aug 2018 22:25:37
Oilers can just sign someone for a lot less than Kulikovs money. Davidson, Sbisa, Emelin, a bunch others.
I bet they bring back Davidson on a PTO.
I wish they would do something bigger tho F.

17 Aug 2018 02:27:08
Davidson is still available? I’m not being rude when I say this but weren’t you guys really high on him?

17 Aug 2018 10:32:39
Yeah I was, he had to step up for injuries like 2 or 3 seasons ago and he played so solid.

17 Aug 2018 16:19:28
I thought he was pretty good ebs.

15 Aug 2018 07:14:03
Given skinners trade value, maybe the new owner also doesn’t value Faulk too much.

Oil: Benson + 2nd + 4th

Carolina: Faulk

If this is comparable to the Skinner trade maybe Carolina considers it.

15 Aug 2018 13:01:51
Not enough at all for Faulk

15 Aug 2018 14:04:13
And you slam me #McJesusChrist for my posts?
Not even close for Faulk.

15 Aug 2018 14:11:24
I’m sure this is a joke related to pinball’s proposals but with Sekera out again, it’s worth a shot. Will Edmonton maybe sign Franson? I might be the only one who still thinks he’s good though, lol.

15 Aug 2018 15:18:38
I think Franson should be playing. He will sign somewhere IMO.

15 Aug 2018 16:39:20
This is so goofy Pinballs package can’t get Nyquist but this can get Faulk? I actually don’t mind this deal btw If Faulk could bring anything valuable back in a trade he would’ve already been move. Obviously every nhl employee and I see that Faulk is a defensive liability and dosent have much value.

15 Aug 2018 18:24:43
Oil should trade there first for Faulk. If it’s reasonable I’d trade more for him. He’s exactly what they need and now that Sekera is down they have an excuse to go for it. I’m not sure if it would work cap wise because they still need to sign Nurse but I’m sure they can make it work.

I’m usually against trading futures for short term solutions but they have McDavid so they can and should be in the playoffs and not thinking about the future.

15 Aug 2018 20:14:43
I am not sure I would givr that much up for Faulk. -109 on his career.

15 Aug 2018 20:26:55
Oilers should be in on Faulk for sure. I don’t get Chiarelli. He has had no problem making bold moves before (hall, eberle, getting Reinhart, even dealing Yakopov) and then this one seems so obvious and shouldn’t be nearly the cost of those and he seems to be dragging his feet finding the RH puck mover. Is it that he’s more cautious and reluctant because the last few haven’t worked out? Or just not interested? Hard to say.

15 Aug 2018 23:59:03
What a joke for Faulk. Wishful thinking. If Faulk is so bad, why would Edmonton trade for him?

16 Aug 2018 01:31:39

16 Aug 2018 01:33:52
Jim agree with you idk what is wrong with Chiarelli. I for sure thought oil would make a move on Duclair and the fact he signed for 650k blew me away.

16 Aug 2018 14:51:03
If he isn’t so bad why wouldn’t they have traded for him yet? He’s on the block.

16 Aug 2018 14:52:17
It seems like he only wants to do these massive deals that are going to be okay if they work out, and terrible when they go wrong. Like that hall one, if everything went his way, it might be close to even, but he would never win that trade. Same with eberle. It was either close to even or a massive loss. His risk/ reward gauge is terrible lol like you said Duclair would have been such low risk at that price. Skinner would have been a chance for him to hit a homerun at that price. So confusing.

15 Aug 2018 01:38:48
Vancouver trades:
Loui Eriksson + Ben Hutton

Oilers trade:
Milan lucic + 2nd 2019 pick.

15 Aug 2018 05:08:03
Lucic will bounce back and that’s not a good trade for oil imo maybe if Stretcher or a rhd was involved maybe.

15 Aug 2018 19:42:05
If you look at the contract of Eriksson and lucic... Eriksson base salary for this year is 5 million..next 2 years is 4 million. Each year the base salary is 1 million with exception to the last year the rest of the $$ is in signing bonuses. Lucic on the other hand his base salary is 3+ million... so that would come out of the salary cap... this would be fair... and sekera is out for the year... Hutton needs a change of scenery... one year left on a contract...it could work out, it might not. But if they don't like him... don't sign him again.

This is a win win win for both sides

15 Aug 2018 20:30:26
All the money comes out of salary cap lol doesn’t matter if it’s base salary or signing bonus. Even a front loaded salary means nothing, hence AAV (Average Anual Value) total cap hit of both is $6 mill. Salary structure has zero impact on the cap. Only on the owners pocket.

08 Aug 2018 02:22:00
What do you guys think of Kapanen+ Carrick


Justin Braun +2nd

Brauns controllable for Another Year. Which is BIG for toronto and its at a really reasonable sub 4mil. I would believe this would be an upgrade over Carrick Would maybe even potentially make Gardiner Expendable. I think Reilly Braun would be a sick top 2.

I think its a lot for toronto to give up but their need for a RHD they can control they're going to need to pony up. With their depth they can afford to make this. move. it does make toronto a little older however they're deep enough . Edmonton is a perfect example you need experienced durable. guys with the youngins to win.

08 Aug 2018 05:38:00
Perhaps you overvalue Braun; he's good, but that's quite the package, and the 2nd doesn't really help for the leafs when they want to win now.

08 Aug 2018 09:17:11
33 points last year, could stick around that or better playing better minutes. Don’t know much about Braun but I’m assuming he has more value than Carrick. And Kapanen might have slightly more value than a San Jose 2nd maybe. Personally don’t see much of a reason for the sharks to do it. Also don’t know if the leafs would want to trade Kapanen for a short term average D.

08 Aug 2018 10:28:27
I’m sorry but did you say Edmonton is a perfect example of what it takes to win?

08 Aug 2018 14:17:16
How does this help San Jose? They give up a top 4 D for some guys that would be in depth roles. Sharks want to win.

08 Aug 2018 18:38:04
@Leafs17. I think he meant that when they had all those young top picks but not the veterans around them they couldn’t win. I could be wrong but I think he was saying they were an example of not winning, meaning to win you need the other way lol.

08 Aug 2018 18:52:09
Braun is pretty meh. but I guess so are the Leafs RHD. I think Toronto would be better off trading a bigger package for a better D man.

08 Aug 2018 21:03:40
This to me is like when people were saying to trade brown+ A pick for Demers. It’s a stop gap Dman that isn’t a huge upgrade. I’d rather them commit to a trade for a good RHD in the core age (Colin Miller, Ryan Pulock, Jacob Trouba) or go with what they have. But giving up depth for another D that isn’t a for sure upgrade on our top 4 doesn’t make a lot of sense.

08 Aug 2018 22:48:49
Thanks for the clarification Jim. I agree with prodepth, the sharks have been in win now mode for a few years now. I don’t see them trading Braun away at the moment.

09 Aug 2018 17:10:40
No problem. With Tavares, Marleau, hainsey, Gardiner, Kadri even mchilliney, they do have plenty of good veterans to help the youth though. Those guys all have like 500 games (or just under), a cpl of them 1000 games. And they aren’t just 4th line guys. They’re playing big roles right along side the top young players. So I don’t see ‘veteran help for young guys’ as a reason to get a guy like Braun. Even Rielly is considered a young D but he has almost 400 NHL games already and Zaitsev was a 7 year pro overseas before coming over.

But for sure I don’t see why sharks do it either.

05 Aug 2018 18:28:17
EDM: RNH, 2019 1st Round Pick
WPG: Trouba, Petan

05 Aug 2018 20:02:55
This trade helps the Oilers more than he Jets as they get a coveted and hard to obtain young 1/ 2 RHD. They also get a center in Petan who can't crack a skilled Jets lineup but would be a solid #3 behind McD and Draisaitl. The Jets could use RNH but would have to trade Little in order to afford him and aren't desperate for a center as they have Roslovic and Appleton that are ready to step up to the big team this year. The 1st would have to be unprotected.

05 Aug 2018 21:21:39
I agree Islandjet this trade would actually make the Jets worse next year. RNH is a good player, but makes our cap situation worse. The slight upgrade at 2C isn't worth giving up a young, top pairing RHD for. The first would be great, but wouldn't help for a couple years.
We'd be filling a small hole at C by creating a huge hole on D.

05 Aug 2018 22:09:56
I feel like oilers fans underate their defense and overrate their offense they need wingers more then defense.

03 Aug 2018 14:48:00
If Tampa acquires and extends Karlsson (RHD), they need to move out salary and go all in this and next year.

Philadelphia: Girardi ($3MM UFA 2019), Callahan ($5.8MM UFA 2020 NTC), Foote, 2020 1st (TB)
Tampa: Vecchione, Leier

Vecchione is NHL ready but can't crack the roster and Leier has NHL experience. Both are cheap and would be great depth players for a long playoff run which Tampa is poised to do. Callahan might waive to go to a good, young, emerging team if he's smart enough to realize he's an impediment in TB.

Philadelphia has the cap space to take on these contracts without impeding future deals (Provorov, Konecny, Patrick etc). Foote and Myers would be the Flyers RHD of the future.

San Jose: Simmonds ($3.975MM UFA 2019)
Philadelphia: 2019 2nd (FLA), 2020 1st (SJS)

It's doubtful that the Flyers can re-sign Simmonds long term. If the Flyers acquire Callahan, Simmonds is surplus value and should go to a contender that can pay him $5-7MM for 4-6 years. With Thornton coming off the books, the Sharks can extend Simmonds for their window. Philadelphia has Voracek, Konecny, and Allison as RW long term.

Philadelphia maximizes their return while using cap space and roster spots. 2019 Draft priority is RW.

Flyers 2020-2021 Roster:


In waiting: Ratcliffe, Farabee, Rubstov, Vorobyev, Strome, Sushko, O'Brien


03 Aug 2018 15:21:37
Good post.

03 Aug 2018 20:05:43
Foote and a 1st to move out Cally? Don’t think so. It’ll prolly just take the 1st. Cause Girardi is basically just a rental cause his contract ends before any resigning would be done.

Simmonds trade isn’t that bad imo, but ain’t that third line a bit inexperienced? Idk, i'd prefer Simmonds there imo.

04 Aug 2018 07:10:37
Foote and 1st is way too steep a price to pay to trade Callahans remaining contract. Could as well buy him out next summer. And you think if Vecchione and Leier can't crack PHIs arguably worse F corps, they will make it on TB? Weird logic
Either send some good value back or take out Foote and then TB maybe considers it.

02 Aug 2018 13:42:41
With Mark Stone reportedly asking 9M in arbitration, I don't see Melnyk wanting to pay him that much. if they don't agree on a fair deal do you see Melnyk saying to trade stone for assets rather than paying the man?

Ottawa: Stone
Edmonton: Jones + 1st?

02 Aug 2018 14:39:38
Not even close Stone might have more value then Karlsson sense he is a RFA.

02 Aug 2018 15:26:11
Stone is worth waaay more than a second pairing D and a very late first

02 Aug 2018 16:16:20
Stone is worth far more than that. But with Ottawa’s lack of leverage and track record lately I don’t know if they get proper value for anyone anymore. I still think teams would pay more than this though.

02 Aug 2018 17:14:15
At least 10other teams would offer more than a B Prospect and an1st for a 60+ point Defensive winger.

02 Aug 2018 19:57:46
Players always ask for a lot more than they actually want. The team is offering $5.5M I believe. He probably realistically wants and is worth around $7.5M. So he's asking for $9M. He will probably and should get between. $7-8M.

02 Aug 2018 20:44:36
Team is $5 mill I believe. Sens also almost $3 mill apart on Ceci. Long term deal for stone in the $7-7.5 range is probably what he wants but of Sens don’t do it, he has nothing to lose a year away from UFA.

02 Aug 2018 20:57:57
I wouldn’t even pay Ceci 3 million let alone be 3 million apart jeez.

02 Aug 2018 21:11:56
If league agrees more with the team and awards him $5-6 mill, then i think it’s all but guaranteed he will feel ripped off by ownership/ management and be gone at the first chance he gets. If they award him $7+ I think he could still then negotiate a long deal after with them.

02 Aug 2018 22:44:48
Jim, league has nothing to do with the amount of money stone gets.

03 Aug 2018 00:00:33
I meant arbitration. Not league. It’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.

03 Aug 2018 00:05:53
Lol. I legit LOLed when I read what Cici was asking for the other day.

03 Aug 2018 00:07:38
Jim you should know the league has nothing to do with the contract negotiations between player/ agent and GM/ Owner. Come on man. If they don't agree and want to go to arbritration that's third party, Still nothing to do with the NHL league I believe.

03 Aug 2018 04:56:26
You'd ask for the moon if you had to play for that organization right now too.

03 Aug 2018 12:54:32
Yupp, I corrected by saying arbitrator and do you think these private arbitrators work for free?! Lol they are contracted by the league. I own a construction company, when I’m done a job I contract a company to do a road sweep. They’re not MY employee, but I still technically hired them for that job. So yes, as I said, it’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.

03 Aug 2018 14:38:53
They aren't NHL employees tho as you kinda suggested. They are third party. Meaning they don't work directly for the league. they just come in with no bias either way and work things out. 🍻🍻.

03 Aug 2018 16:23:31
I agree. I said league by mistake and then corrected it to arbitrator lol

You said it has “nothing to do with NHL League”. So I said they are hired by the league but are private arbitrators. Didn’t you just use the quote “read to understand, don’t read to respond”?! Lol Jesus.

03 Aug 2018 16:34:53
And I specifically said ‘not employee’ in my analogy lol slow news day I guess.

03 Aug 2018 17:26:24
Anyone feel if the contracts keep rising like this we are heading for another lockout? Or if the cap continues to rise all will be good between owner and player? Stone's great, don't get me wrong, I really like him, but just feels like a few years ago he'd be more in the 5 mil range rather than the 7.3 he just signed.

03 Aug 2018 18:50:03
@musing, you’re right. They seem like they’re climbing but the bar is always set at the top. So a few years ago when Crosby, Malkin and ovie were the best in the world and making 8.7-9.5 guys like him were $5 mill range. But when mcdavid gets 12.5 as the best now (deserved) and that next tier is getting 10-11 (Doughty, toews, kane, kopitar, Tavares, Eichel, matthews soon) then these types of guys are $7+ mill for sure.

01 Aug 2018 12:47:48
A more realistic idea:

(LW) Mikkel Boedker to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for (D) Kris Russell.

- Edmonton could use speedy wingers. Boedker is exactly that. Maybe he revitalizes alongside McDavid. Russell is extra as a DFD with Larsson and Nurse there as better versions of that.
- Ottawa is looking at trading EK. If they do, their blueline will be led by Chabot and Ceci. They could use more help. Russell could be a good mentor for Chabot too and could be a replacement for Methot,

01 Aug 2018 13:43:48
if they trade Russell for a winger they create a big hole on D and then rely on a rookie and Benning full time. I would trade for Boadker, but I would trade a winger and a draft pick for him, not Russell. Russell is the only leftie who can play right side well with only Larsson and Benning being righties.
Nurse Larson
Klefbom Russell
Sekera Benning.

01 Aug 2018 14:06:29
I don’t think it’s bad, makes sense with how you described it but I think Edmonton might have to add a bit. Just because I can’t see Ottawa trading the biggest piece of the hoffman deal so quick without getting prospects and/ or picks while being able to justify it to fans.

01 Aug 2018 15:30:51
If trading Russel leaves a hole on D, you've got bigger problems.

01 Aug 2018 22:42:42
Oil signed Reider and now have Aberg so I don’t think Boedker is much of a need right now but I would’ve been all over that last season. But as far as losing Russell they could easily sign someone to eat some minutes. Benning was definitely more effective on the third pairing but signing a bottom pairing vet could still work. And I don’t think they’ll make a major trade now that Bouchard is in the system. Also I can see them wanting to save face in a sense but Boedker has little to no value.

01 Aug 2018 22:58:25

Thats also nearly 20 million tied into your d, with Nurse needing pay. Russell>Selera so Ottawa wouldn't take Sekera, and the others are better. You guys need to acquire some help on the wing without depleting your wings further, and I think Russell is the right way to go. And @unsportsmanlike is right 100%. Lol.

01 Aug 2018 23:17:46
I’m no oilers fan but why does everyone think if a winger is traded there Mcdavid would “revitalize him” would Mikkel Boedker really play 1st line? If that’s the case then take every 37 point player from last yr and trade them to Edmonton and they will be all stars.

02 Aug 2018 04:53:52
@madeindade28 I didn’t watch all of there games but Boedker had some chemistry with Draisaitl on team Europe during the World Cup or whatever it was called. Again I haven’t watched a ton of Boedker but he plays a similar north south speed game to Hall, who had good chemistry with Draisaitl.

31 Jul 2018 14:28:39
WPG: Little
VAN: Horvat


WPG: Little

31 Jul 2018 15:04:14
Easy no from Canucks and Oilers lol.

31 Jul 2018 15:09:42
lolololol literal downgrade in skill and age. terrible for van and edm.

31 Jul 2018 15:16:49
I can't see either the Canucks or Oilers ever doing these trades. The Jets would have to add.

31 Jul 2018 16:05:27
Schifele for Sutter
Schifele for R. Strome.

31 Jul 2018 21:40:43
I guess we know who AJ cheers for.

31 Jul 2018 22:40:20
vb for the win.

31 Jul 2018 23:24:13
Totally unrealistic. How would you pitch those trades to Edmonton and Vancouver? What incentive do they have to make those trades?

31 Jul 2018 04:44:20
The Toronto Maple Leafs trade (C) William Nylander to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for (RD) Justin Faulk.

The Toronto Maple Leafs also acquire (LD) TJ Brodie from the Calgary Flames in exchange for a (2019) 1st-Round Pick and (RW) Connor Brown.

The Toronto Maple Leafs then send (LD) Jake Gardiner to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for (C) Ryan Strome.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Matthews - Kapanen
Johnsson - Kadri - Strome
Ennis - Lindholm - Leivo

Rielly - Faulk
Brodie - Zaitsev
Carrick - Hainsey

31 Jul 2018 06:14:24
I’d do Nylander to Carolina for the rights to never have Faulk wear a leafs jersey, causing turnovers, goals and producing almost no offence.

Faulk would not bring back Nylander. The day Faulk wears a leafs jersey is the day I hop on the oilers bandwagon.

31 Jul 2018 13:31:42
1) Faulk must have banged VBBs mom at some point

2) would not trade Nylander for Faulk

3) the Brodie one is probably close in value, but I wouldn’t do it. Not the kind of upgrade I would want for that price.

4) Hell no lol just because Chirelli took strome back as value for a top 6 forward doesn’t mean anyone else thinks he’s worth a 50 pt top 4 D. One GM screwing the pooch on a trade does not create a new league wide value for that player. If chiarellis trades set league values, oilers should trade Larson to Colorado for Nate Mackinnon and a pick. Because Larson is worth a Hart trophy winning forward and Mackinnon finished second.

31 Jul 2018 14:11:46
Ohh my I just saw the Strome for Gardiner Trade that’s horid Gardiner out produced Strome as a Dman.

31 Jul 2018 15:14:33
Leafs get worse.

31 Jul 2018 20:52:38
2017/ 2018 Vezina trophy voting:
Rinne - 129 votes
Hellebuyck - 82
Vasilevsky - 21
F. Anderson - 12

2016/ 2017 Vezina voting:
Bobrovsky - 138
Holtby - 87
Price - 19
Talbot - 17

Talbot >> Anderson.

31 Jul 2018 21:50:17
Did I miss something yupp? Was there a Talbot/ Andersen debate somewhere? I’d love to see how that plays out.

31 Jul 2018 22:13:16
Hahaha. Ya that was the post below to Jims comment ranking Leafs players and mentioning Anderson and his 4th in Vezina voting. So I figure I would also just mention the previous 4th in vezina voting. Entertaining myself. 🍻🍻🍻.

31 Jul 2018 23:00:45
Wrong post but regardless, I’m not comparing players from team to team. Saying a goalie in the running for a Vezina, even though a distant 4th, could be considered more valuable than our own winger.

I guess you still get touchy when someone mentions Chiarelli though lol Strome for eberle, woof. Sorry just entertaining myself 😉.

01 Aug 2018 02:49:35
i liked getting rid of Eberle. Strome was never supposed to take over his role. But once the season started and Puljujarvi wasn't ready to take on Eberles role and Yamamoto went back down after his 9 games. PC should have made a deal for a winger then, had the cap space. That's what I would criticize him for.
Don't act like your team hasn't ever made and bad moves or signings. Lol. Jeez.
Phanuef, Lupul, Clarkson, Kessel, Robidas.

PC should have also traded for a D man when he knew Sekera would be out until December. Instead Aubutu and Benning weren't good enough to handle a full load. That was bad. He should have also traded for a back up goalie when talbot was out and he tried playing someone with less than 20 NHL games on a back to back in Toronto and Montreal in late November.

01 Aug 2018 05:02:44
The leafs current manegment hasn’t made any of those signings.

01 Aug 2018 13:45:47
Ohhhh you're absolutely right. The almighty Leafs are gods and you're not a homer.

01 Aug 2018 15:46:55
This management team is the one that made all those bad moves go away lol not make them. As where Chiarelli is the guy making the bonehead moves :

hall for Larson, eberle for Strome, 1st (barzal) and 2nd for Reinhart, Lucic contract, paid Draisaitl $34 mill more than his agent asked for 12 months earlier

He traded a 1st and 2nd (one becoming barzal) for 2012 4th overall Reinhart who had played 8 NHL games and never made their team. Then Yakupov is a bust and has to go with 110+ pts in 250 nhl games at the same age lol and he gets a 3rd rounder in return!

and he’s still the guy there allowed to call the shots and unable to get out from under a single bad contract in Lucic. Dorian and Bergevin are given a hard time, and rightfully so, but to be honest, the difference between them and Chiarelli in Connor Mcdavid.

01 Aug 2018 18:07:17
Oilers need to let go of Chareli he was fired from Boston for a good reason they should target Mark Hunter he made debatably the biggest dynasty in the mordern CHL with the London knights. Also the only bad move that the new leafs manegment made was Stephan Robidias. But it wasn’t that bad.

02 Aug 2018 04:11:02
Yeah lol leafs got out of Lupul, phaneuf, robidas, Clarkson and kessel, retaining a total of $1.2 mill per season and have kapanen, Andersen, Calvin pickard, Eemeli Rasanen (19 year old 6’7 d prospect) still with us to show for those deals (plus Nathan Horton of course lol)

Don’t think this management has a lot to apologize for. Leafs have added 5 of their top 7 players under this regime. (Matthews (handed to them), marner, JT, Andersen and Nylander)

Since Chiarelli took over, the only players he has upgraded is Mcdavid (handed to him) and trading for talbot. Besides that, he inherited RNH, Klefbom and Draisatl, and massively downgraded Hall and Eberle.

We let players walk to UFA that would be better than anyone he has managed to acquire in 3 years on the job.

28 Jul 2018 05:29:16
Leafs: Zaitsev, Gardiner, Hyman

Oilers: Sekera, Nurse.

28 Jul 2018 12:41:07
From leafs point of view no thanks cause of sekeras contract.

28 Jul 2018 20:27:44
From the Oilers point of view no thanks because of Nurse.
If I'm reading Nurse its to upgrade in a package for someone better Not a sideways type move.
I'm not a fan of Gardiner at all to be honest. Rather keep Nurse and Sekera.

28 Jul 2018 23:00:32
You may not be fan of “ Jake Gardiner at all tbh “ but he still put up more points then Klefbom and Nurse combined he’d be their best deffensman to play on the Oilers within the last decade statistically.

29 Jul 2018 03:34:08

Youd probably rather just keep nurse. If EDMcould get rid of Sekera they should imo.

29 Jul 2018 06:03:39
Yes I would be fine with trading Sekera. But not with Nurse, for this return. 🍻.

26 Jul 2018 15:05:22
Edm/ Tor:

Pontus Aberg to Toronto in exchange for Josh Leivo.

Lateral move. Leivo could use a fresh start and many Oilers fans don’t see Aberg as a viable option in the future. Leivo is older but is also more experienced in the NHL.

26 Jul 2018 15:34:01
I like Aberg. I would want to hold onto him for a year or two. I see a god third liner in him.

26 Jul 2018 17:35:40
Agree with yupp I like how Aberg skates and he’s got a good shot with skill. Think he would be better for us if he starts playing like he can. Good post tho.

26 Jul 2018 18:01:12
I’m kinda neutral on it. I like Leivo and think he could be good, but clearly he’s not being given the opportunity here for whatever reason between him and Babcock.

26 Jul 2018 19:39:17
Ooo aii then that's noprob. I just saw some guys in comment threads on IG/ forums of Hbuzz saying that he'd be a depth forward for Edmonton for the coming season, and Leivo could be of more use right now, while Aberg would be more profitable in the future.

However, you guys know the EDM situation better than I do, so if he does have a role in the top nine, then its better off keeping him.

26 Jul 2018 22:55:04
I just think Edmonton needs more skill so I’d rather hold onto Aberg.

27 Jul 2018 19:26:12
I think you guys would be surprised with leivo he is good with a heavy shot only issue was his skating but has worked on it.

29 Jul 2018 23:19:21
Alright, the Leafs should keep and use him then.

25 Jul 2018 11:39:32

Edmonton -
• (D) Darnell Nurse
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (C) Kailer Yamamoto
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
Ottawa -
• (D) Erik Karlsson
• (RW) Bobby Ryan
Toronto -
• (C) William Nylander
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick

Oilers - Erik Karlsson + William Nylander + Bobby Ryan
Ottawa - Kailer Yamamoto + 1st-Round Pick + 1st-Round Pick
Toronto - Darnell Nurse + 2nd Round Pick

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - William Nylander
Pontus Aberg - Leon Draisaitl - Jesse Puljujärvi
Milan Lucic - Drake Cagguila - Tobias Rieder
Zack Kassian - Ryan Strome - Bobby Ryan

Oscar Klefbom - Erik Karlsson
Kris Russell - Adam Larsson
Andrej Sekera - Matt Benning

Then edmonton can find a way to ship Lucic off to Arizona or Florida.

25 Jul 2018 12:43:52
Where's Brodziak, Jujhar, Ryan wouldn't be a 4th liner.

25 Jul 2018 12:58:09
Nylander ad a 1st for nurse and a 2nd? Leafs pass. The heee way just makes it look confusing but at the end of the day I see what leafs get va what leaves and it’s an easy no.

25 Jul 2018 13:29:53
Oilers fleece this imo. Even if they take on Ryan, Nylander >>>> Yamamoto and EK >>>> Nurse.

25 Jul 2018 13:50:42
Just looked again, oilers get Karlsson and Nylander lol the 2 best players in the deal for nurse, moto, 1st and 2nd lol. Ottawa does alright, not great, with moto and 2 firsts that SHOULD be late for Karlsson, and once you factor in ditching Ryan, it’s probably a good return. Oilers are laughing and leafs lose the second best player and a 1st for the 3rd best player and a second?!

25 Jul 2018 15:03:35
This is an absolute biased trainwreck of Rambo/ marcusjoe proportions.

25 Jul 2018 15:21:17
@TSS yeah lol. They upgrade winger from yamamoto (good potential) to Nylander (21 year old 65pt player) and nurse (good Dman) to Karlsson (arguably best Dman in the world with doughty and hedman) and total cost is like a 20th and 50th overall pick haha.

25 Jul 2018 16:33:21
Yah well if Nurse was Right handed it could have merit but the leafs wouldn’t be the ones adding.

25 Jul 2018 17:49:08
Oilers don’t have the cap for that hahaha and god damn do they come out on top for this.

26 Jul 2018 00:10:09
TOR and OTT get hosed.

28 Jul 2018 21:03:05
Not a chance. Ottawa not getting fleeced again let alone in a Karlsson deal.

25 Jul 2018 01:01:49
Per Eliot Friedman the Leafs and Sharks are interested in Antemi Paniran as a rental. The price Per Eliot is thought to be ( A 1st +a B PROSPECT) I feel like it'll be more then that but not much

Assumption- this is a deadline deal where his value is at an all time low. He makes it clear he wants to test FA and won't sign in Columbus.

Comparison- Evander Kane and Marian Hossa 2009.

Columbus: Paniran And 3rd 2019

San Jose: Kevin Leblanc and 1st 2019

Clb: gets rid of a great player that is unwilling to stay long term. They pick up a promising prospect in Leblanc who's basically a guaranteed 2nd liner atleast and a 1st

SJ- gets a player who can be there best player offensively and they have the room to resign.

Columbus- Paniran and Ryan Murray

Toronto- Jake Gardiner, Connor Brown, and 1st 2019

Clb- Gardiner would be able to play on their top PP and would be an upgrade over Murray. Brown provides top 9 depth and a strong PKer. The 1st is useally a essential when trading for a top tier rental.

Toronto- 100% won't resign Paniran so he'd help the playoff push but Murray could be a long term solution for the 2nd pairing.

25 Jul 2018 04:44:40
Uh so the San Jose trade is terrible for Columbus. Easy no imo. As for the Toronto trade i can’t see Columbus also including Murray, especially since I know you think he’s a stud dman lol.
So I think Columbus could get better offers.

25 Jul 2018 04:53:28
SAN Jose doesn’t have a 2019 first it’ll have to be a 2020 first and Columbus i don’t think would want to wait for a 2020 pick as they have a squad that could compete now so it’ll require a roster player or prospects that’s ready to make the jump.

25 Jul 2018 05:26:49
Honestly if this is a deadline deal with the assumption you mentioned I take this as a Jackets fan. But I would add that if we are competing for a division spot or are even in a playoff spot, I think we self-rent Panarin to ourselves. This is the best team in franchise history and there is pressure for playoff success after losing to the champs in the first round two straight years.

25 Jul 2018 05:47:36
Good point Spencmence. Also you’re right A099 my apologies. Also I’ve never said Murray’s a stud McJesus I’m not to sure other teams would offer more but you could be right.

25 Jul 2018 11:19:20
No, He suggested that the Leafs could or should be interested in Panarin, not that they are interested and looking into him right now. There's a huge difference. You have to rest to understand then respond not just read to respond. There's a big difference.
And it would be a pure one year rental if they did go after him. If they have the space, why not! Go for it for one, year all out.
But your proposed trade for Panarin and Murray is not enough for CLB. Lol. There would be better offers.

25 Jul 2018 13:04:53
Gardiner is the best piece going back to CBJ from the leafs at the deadline butbhe is a IFA too. Makes no sense, especially including Murray. The best piece coming back only replaces murray who was a throw in, and as of July they have a late first and a bottom 6 player for panarin and Murray? Lol.

25 Jul 2018 15:29:41
I would love to see a line up of:

Panarin - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Kadri - Kapanen
Who - F’ing - cares

Lol but panarin is 100% a luxury. Top 6 scoring is the last thing we NEED to add and if it comes at the expense of Defense it’s a backwards step. The offer above isn’t near enough, and it’s not worth the leafs paying proper value for what we don’t need.

25 Jul 2018 16:38:11
We’ll see what he gets but UFAs never bring back much. I actually think they get less then that.

25 Jul 2018 17:53:14
I think If you don’t include Murray in the trade and include Kapanen instead of brown it’s a decent offer for Panarin.

24 Jul 2018 16:38:36
edm trades drisaitl,sekera and a 3rd or 2nd pick in 2019

nashville trades subban and turris

24 Jul 2018 17:18:03
Nashville in win now mode so I can’t see them making this trade if subban is involved.

25 Jul 2018 15:07:57
To be accurate, Friedman did not specify that he had heard the Leafs/ Sharks were interested, was just putting two and two together given their cap space this year and respective situations. I don't think the Leafs go for it, IMO, unless their plan is to try and be the Oilers of the 80's and beat teams 6-5.

24 Jul 2018 14:59:32
E. Karlsson D

L. Draisaitl C

24 Jul 2018 15:06:02
Edmonton needs Drais more then Karlsson they have a decent d core but horrendous offensive depth.

24 Jul 2018 15:20:23
no from ottawa, they would want more than just draisaitl.

24 Jul 2018 17:10:59
I think that is a good starting point to be honest, provided a deal is in place that EK would be signing there.
But in the end, i don't know if EDM would want to pay EK what he wants.

25 Jul 2018 11:38:32
I think edm would have to Add another piece to make this go but would be good trade for both teams.

24 Jul 2018 02:58:18
two trades

to NJ

to Ottawa


to Edmonton

to Ottawa
2019 and 2020 1st

24 Jul 2018 05:10:36
I can't see OTT making that deal for Karlsson, its simply not enough value coming back. If I'm OTT I start the negotiations with Draisaitl ++ coming back.

24 Jul 2018 15:17:06
Devils decline that offer. Zajac is important and Ceci is not someone the team needs.

24 Jul 2018 16:58:13
Why would devils decline. Ottawa declines since zajac is 33 and with almost a 6 mil contract (he had only 26 pts last season). Ceci is a solid top 4 defenceman, and even though ryan's contract is roughly 1 mil extra, he is still 2-3 years younger and had more points (33).

24 Jul 2018 18:00:39
In terms of cost/ point amongst forwards on contracts that end in UFA, standardized to 82 games, Bobby Ryan was $2500 a point more expensive than Zach Parise last year. His comparisons last year (within 5 either way) include Parise, Loui Eriksson, Corey Perry, Casey Cizikas, Jason Pomminville, Brandon Saad and. Travis Zajac! he's much more than 1 mill overpaid and has 4 years left on that deal. Zajac isn't much better but at least a year shorter and 1.5 mill less cap. 91 players over 100k/ point cheaper than Ryan.

25 Jul 2018 01:27:00
Bobby Ryan has less value than just about any player putting up similar points with a lower salary or less years. Zajac has both. Very easy to know why devils say no.

25 Jul 2018 11:50:43
If it drais it’s not ++ maybe a pick but not much more then that.

25 Jul 2018 11:55:28
Ott won’t take a bad contract in a karlson deal.

21 Jul 2018 03:45:40
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl

21 Jul 2018 05:33:42
why would leafs do that . give up their one good D for a Center when they have Mathews, Tavares, Kadri .

21 Jul 2018 05:50:36
I’m going to be honest here Drais is great and has more value then Rielly but no way leafs make this trade Rielly is the only bright spot in there Dcore and Peter. C is known for making questionable trades so “maybe” if Rielly was a RHD he’d accept it but the fact is the oilers are set at the left side.

21 Jul 2018 06:19:14
Leafs have no need for drat and need Reilly way way more.

21 Jul 2018 08:11:55
Great idea, as we all know the Leafs could really use their surplus of great defenseman and trade for the elite C they're desparetly lacking.

21 Jul 2018 15:34:37
Biasjoe is just trying to see how we value our own teams players. It looks like vbb’s and myself know that Draisaitl has more value. That’s crazy eh joe, considering we’re leaf fans? Do you see how that works? I am judging a player by their true value, not what team they play for.

21 Jul 2018 16:04:50
Different situation leafs pull the trigger right away. But as said above, to trade your best Dman for a guy going to be 3rd centre or an $8.5 mill winger makes zero sense. Just stick to that Winnipeg koolaid, joe.

21 Jul 2018 17:05:04
Every Leaf Fan knows Drais>Rielly in value. But unlike the Jets, the Leafs have a need for Defense, as everyone knows, so we’d certainly not trade our best dman for another centre.

22 Jul 2018 22:54:42
pretty sure the leafs do this in a heartbeat. it wouldn't be that hard to flip drai or another asset for a very solid dman.

just a value game at this point. no idea why edm would do this.

21 Jul 2018 00:11:32
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl.

20 Jul 2018 20:40:10
Winnipeg: Trouba
Edmonton: Draisaitl

20 Jul 2018 21:04:08
I doubt Edmonton would do it and the Jets can't afford Draisaitl's contract. But value wise as long as Draisaitl can actually start carrying a line as a 2C, it is pretty good. 2C for a top pairing RHD.

20 Jul 2018 21:46:52
Memarcuswindowlicker approves.

20 Jul 2018 22:03:27
Oh boy. much rather Draisatl to Trouba.

20 Jul 2018 22:09:44
Lmao no from oilers come on joe.

20 Jul 2018 22:12:59
Edmonton needs Drat way more than they need Trouba. Also value wise it isn’t there. Imo. Especially Trouba thinking he’s a top 10 dman in the league. Not a chance.

20 Jul 2018 23:02:47
Sorry guys, I was just trying to make a point of how ridiculous all the Trouba trades were getting. I really didn’t think biasjoe would think this is fair.

20 Jul 2018 23:29:18
I prefer you keep Draisaitl as well. The longer the Oilers have that much tied up in bad contracts up front and keep rolling out an ECHL quality defense, the longer they stay anchored to dead last in the West.

20 Jul 2018 23:47:12
Ya crap, back to back 70 point - 22 year old, big solid strong centers are so terrible to have. Sucks.

21 Jul 2018 03:18:53
Have fun resigning your core Marcus, especially when Trouba who ain't even the number one dman on your team wants 7 million and has temper tantrums because he's playing behind Buff.

21 Jul 2018 06:20:45
HAhahaha wtf sick chirp.

21 Jul 2018 09:12:37
ECHL quality defence? Larsson is just as good as Trouba. Klefbom and nurse are just as good as and if not better then Myers. Not do mention they grabbed Bouchard who has top 2 potential and have Bear in the pipe line. I’m pretty sure Klefbom would score 3 goals per period in the ECHL.

21 Jul 2018 11:26:53
Wow vbb. 👏👏👏. Salute - No sarcasm there.

21 Jul 2018 17:26:46
Vbb you just mentioned how to defence on Edmonton who are as good as Myers. The jets bottom pairing defence.

21 Jul 2018 17:31:42
This trade would only happen if the Oilers retained $2 mil per year of Draisaitls contract.

21 Jul 2018 19:44:36
@IJ your so biased, its not even funny, lol.

Your idea of a realistic trade is probably Nico Hischier for Trouba. Lol.

21 Jul 2018 23:25:54
Myers/ Moreissy is their 3rd best dman.

22 Jul 2018 00:09:06
Not even close vb. Myers is fourth at most probably fifth when kulikov is actually health. Myers has issues in his end.

22 Jul 2018 06:17:31
Haha alpaca. 2 weeks ago jets fans were saying Myers would be top pair on half the teams in the league. Now vbb names guys better and just to discredit that you say Myers is terrible lol. New level of little man syndrome. Most clueless fans.

22 Jul 2018 15:14:43
You'll notice none of those were me.

22 Jul 2018 15:59:08
You’re saying Kulikov is better than Myers lol and that no oilers Dman is as good as either of them. That makes you, islandjet and MarcusJoe all one. If you did a one to one comparison of why you would rather Myers over klefbom, I can respect that. Just coming out and saying no one on Edmonton is as good as Kulikov who was being scratched in buffalo after being traded from Florida for very little is clearly just trash. Klefbom and Larson are clearly better than Kulikov. And better than Myers.

23 Jul 2018 06:32:50
Never commented on edmontons defence. I simply pointed out that he compared them to Myers. Your reading an awful lot into my comments. And yes a healthy kulikov is as good or better than Myers.

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