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26 Jul 2017 12:15:53
I saw this on Broad Street Hockey while discussing if Simmonds contract and Flyers development is out of sync and the possibility of trading him. Simmonds is a great leader, possesses many intangibles, and is a decent goal scorer by parking himself in front of the net. He's on an amazing contract that the Flyers won't get full value on as they won't be competitive until at least 2019-20. It's best to trade him to a contender that can fit his contract.

Oilers: Simmonds (2 years x $3.975MM)
Flyers: Puljujarvi (2 years ELC), 1st 2018

I think this is too much from Edmonton but Simmonds is more valuable to Edmonton on the ice over the next two years than Puljujarvi and a draft pick. I think it's justifiable though; 2 years of Simmonds at $3.975 is enticing seeing as how he's a cheaper version of Lucic on a cheaper AAV.

Wild: Simmonds (2 years x $3.975MM)
Flyers: Kaprizov (KHL), 1st 2018

I don't know what Foligno, Grandlund and Niederreiter will command as RFAs but I'd imagine Minnesota is tight to the cap. I'd ask for Vegas' 2018 3rd as well due to the KHL factor.

The other obvious flaw is that the original proposal had Puljujarvi = Kaprizov, which I don't think is true.

26 Jul 2017 15:41:47
Because he is a UFA in 2 years, If anyone will give up a prospect like Puljujarvi, which I think if some teams want Simmonds that bad they might, They sure won't be adding a 1st to a prospect like that for two years of someone.

26 Jul 2017 17:21:58
I like it tbh not sure if Edmonton goes down that path tho.

08 Aug 2017 22:43:57
The 1st won't be nearly as high as Edmonton has been picking at seemingly for the last 20 years so that pick isn't as sexy as its made out.

16 Jul 2017 01:30:03
To ottawa : Giroux, and Voracek

To Philadelphia : Phaneuf, chlapic, brassard, and a 2nd

Philly gets a top prospect a pick a much needed top 6 defensive forward who can score and a big body heavy hitting dman who has revived his career since leaving Toronto and won't be forced to play more minutes than he can handle with their d core.

Ottawa finds a home for Phaneuf and lands 2 guys who still have time to turn their careers back around and make a rebound with a fresh start where they won't have the same pressure to preform around them they did in Philly. In ottawa the supporting cast they'll have can help divvy up the offence.

Big contract and somewhat big contract for 2 big contracts.

Thoughts?

16 Jul 2017 04:35:16
Bro. Cmon.

16 Jul 2017 05:03:19
Karlsson and turris for Plekanec?

16 Jul 2017 15:39:36
Laughable for Philly.

17 Jul 2017 21:43:06
HAHAHAH!
This can't be a legit proposal, can it? The top 2 Philly players for overpaid Phaneuf and scraps? Giroux AND Voracek would start with Chabot, plain and simple.

18 Jul 2017 22:03:10
Giroux and voracek are on the decline if last season is any indication I know this not just from what I saw but because I had both in my hockey pool which they both did not live up in any way to expectations and Phaneuf is getting his stride back while brassard is as consistent as he's ever been. And chlapic is one of the top 5 prospects in ottawa system. Plus a 2nd round pick to boot. Not to mention the money saved by Philly on those 2 big contracts moving out.

10 Jul 2017 21:49:16
Giroux is still a good, not elite, 1C but his age does not fit with where the Flyers are as a team. With his NMC, he needs to go to a team that lacks a legit 1C, fancies itself a true contender, can or easily could make moves to take the cap hit, and to where Giroux would accept a trade. That leaves:

Ottawa: Giroux ($8.275 until 2022
Philadelphia: Brassard ($5.0 until 2019), 2018 1st + 3rd, 2019 2nd

Ottawa made the ECF and Giroux could put push them further in the playoffs. Brassard and Giroux are the same age.

Montreal: Giroux
Philadelphia: Plekanec ($6.0 until 2018), 2018 1st, 2018 2nd (CHI), 2019 2nd

Montreal definitely thinks of themselves as true contenders, committing themselves to Price etc. Radulov didn't resign and the Habs need a player to play with Pacioretty, Drouin etc.

11 Jul 2017 00:51:42
Why isn't he elite?

11 Jul 2017 00:56:49
Personally think there are only a handful of players in the elite catagory. McDavid, Crosby, Karlsson, Price, Kane. he's a tier down from those guys IMO.

11 Jul 2017 02:10:16
McJesus: Giroux isn't elite because his production doesn't support it. As a Flyers fan, I would love to say that he is but reality doesn't bear that out. Injuries or not, he's a very good player, but certainly not elite.

I posted these trades because I see a window for trading Giroux to two teams that could use seriously him and that he could realistically play for. I'm suggesting Hextall shoulds 'Schenn' Giroux, aka trade a better player for a worse player with a shorter contract plus valuable picks.

11 Jul 2017 02:57:29
Okay if that's how you categorize it I definitely agree with that.
But imo I think there are superstars (Crosby mcdavid) and then elite players (backstrom Giroux) but I agree with that then.

11 Jul 2017 14:03:51
He's definitely fallen off but I kinda see it like mcjesus. Those other guys are far beyond elite. Elite puts you in the top 50 or so in the league, best player or 2 on each team (obviously some teams have none and some have 4) but those other guys are above elite. They're the top 3-5 world wide. I get the purpose of the trade though, makes sense. If habs can't land Tavares via trade or UFA next summer they may have to visit something like this.

12 Jul 2017 01:40:13
Montreal adds a lot.

12 Jul 2017 01:47:00
IMO there is Generational talent ( McDavid, Lindstrom and Price ) then Franchise ( Towes, Doughty and Holtby ) then Elite ( Duchene, Faulk and Brobovsky )

13 Jul 2017 21:40:00
So you think brassard + 3rd is worth plekanec + 2nd ?

15 Jul 2017 12:01:08
@ McJesus Christ

If you need to ask why Giroux isn't elite, You need to watch more games. He hasn't been elite, except in the flyer media, for a couple years now. He's a good player but SURELY not elite.

30 Jun 2017 19:46:53
Philadelphia Acquires:
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Charlie Lindgren
-2nd round pick 2018

Montreal Acquires:
-Claude Giroux

I've seen many similar mock trades lately and I believe the value is fair as Giroux is coming off 2 bad seasons and Montreal is looking for a center. Giroux could bounce back but he might continue having 50 point seasons.

30 Jun 2017 19:54:27
seems like a good deal because Girlux has been declining every year and has a pretty big contract.

30 Jun 2017 21:26:41
As much as I would like Giroux on the habs, there is no way that Montreal would take his contract when we have to sign price within the year to a 9+ mill per year contract.

01 Jul 2017 05:29:09
I really like Lindgren and very hesitant to trade him. How about Patch for Giroux?

01 Jul 2017 14:26:50
Giroux for Galchenyuk is attractive from the Flyers perspective but can't see Flyers giving up Giroux. Habs could get younger, more cap-friendly pieces for Galchenyuk.

29 Jun 2017 18:09:36
Curious on what Philipp Grubauer's trade value is since the goalie market is so cheap right now.

Van: conditional 2nd 2019, 5th 2018
Wsh: Grubauer

Not sure what some realistic performance conditions are.
45 games or else it's a 3rd?

Could also see him as a good fit in Philly as a 1a/1b combo with neuvirth

thoughts?

29 Jun 2017 20:34:59
No, Keep draft picks. Rather sign a Kuemper, Kinkaid or a Berube rather than giving up a second round pick for a back up.

26 Jun 2017 23:18:47
Vegas: Jake Vorachek

Flyers: 2 2018 first round picks (yes they force Vagas toacquire another one but given the fact they are rebuilding that shouldn't be very difficult to do)

or 3 first round picks (2018, 2019, 2020).

The flyers can then sign Radulov to a 3/4 year 7 million per deal. They save 1.5 million over the course of the contract and will have the cap room they need once some prospect's entry level deal expires

27 Jun 2017 00:55:56
Why the hell would Vegas do this? Trade 3 first round picks for an over paid player so that flyers can go sign a different guy for less with out giving up assets? Why wouldn't Vegas just offer radulov big money like they have done with other KHL players?! Why would McPhee pay to get flyers out of cap trouble with a bad contract? Lol also Vegas isn't 'rebuilding', they are 'building'. A team that is not going to be good for a few seasons is not giving away multiple firsts. They look around the league and see the impact 18-22 year olds have on teams nowadays. They will build it right.

27 Jun 2017 01:26:53
Lmao are you serious.

27 Jun 2017 03:10:37
radulov want 7 years if it was 3/ 4 year he would be already sign.

27 Jun 2017 15:55:00
The next two 1st Rd picks by Vagas are guaranteed to have the 3rd slot in the lottery so that's a huge no. Two top 6 picks for an overpayed aging Vorchek? I don't think so.

26 Jun 2017 06:35:55
Montreal sends:

A. Galchenyuk

to Philadelphia for:

S. Couturier

The Canadiens are looking desperately for a centre and while Couturier's stats don't impress, he has the potential at 24 to develop into a true number one centre, in my opinion

The Flyers on the other hand are blessed with many centres, too many perhaps. Nolan Patrick is NHL ready and could potentially slot into their lineup next season, so they can afford to give up an asset like Couturier. Galchenyuk isn't the centerman that the Canadiens drafted him to be and is better suited to the wing, and the Flyers would love his firepower.

Let me know your thoughts!

26 Jun 2017 13:37:55
No from philly.

26 Jun 2017 14:01:34
Braydon Schenn deal kinda messed this scenario up. Not sure what he was thinking.

26 Jun 2017 16:19:11
Hell no from Montreal 😂😂😂Galchenyuk is better younger and had like 10 more points than couturier in 10 less games in a season where injuries ruined his year.

26 Jun 2017 16:42:54
Btw couturier will never be a number 1 center maybe second.

26 Jun 2017 17:33:50
Alikhan, Galchenyuk will never be a number 1 centre man either.

26 Jun 2017 21:13:55
Aikhan Couturier is a very good two way center. No he is probably never going to be a #1 but you seem to think Galchenyuk is better than anyone in any proposal. Maybe you should keep him then.

27 Jun 2017 01:06:14
Galchenyuk and coutourier shouldn't be compared playing style and points wise. They're too different. Just value wise. The way the habs were trying to win games, with the best goalie in the world and trading offensive d for stud solid low risk D, they should like coutourier over Galchenyuk. But what a disaster they have become in the last 18 months, who knows how they value anyone. I'm still laughing at the habs first rounder saying he's excited to go to a great organization like Toronto. haha.

27 Jun 2017 03:21:35
Unbiased Jim I'll admit that was funny.

27 Jun 2017 17:37:46
No from Philly. Couturier is not an offensive dynamo, but he brings so much to the game: excellent penalty killing, matchup against the other teams' top lines, and he fits well with the Flyers' long term vision. Schenn never fit well and hence, he was gone. Galchenyuk merely adds another Schenn type problem.

24 Jun 2017 02:45:01
Confirmed Trade:

Philadelphia Trades:
Brayden Schenn

St. Louis Trades:
Jori Lehtera
2017 1st round pick #27
Conditional 2018 first round pick

Wow! Just wow!

24 Jun 2017 05:40:08
That's a lot for schenn.

24 Jun 2017 05:45:36
I think that is terrible for philly. Did they really want this Frost kid or something? I didn't get to watch it but I don't like the deal. St. Louis now has a solid #2 centre who also plays wing.

24 Jun 2017 06:06:53
Agree with not today.

24 Jun 2017 10:09:06
I think this move shows that Philly thinks Patrick is ready to play next year.

24 Jun 2017 11:41:44
I agree hattrick but Schenn also plays wing and philly is weak on the wings. I still don't like it.

24 Jun 2017 16:34:54
Don't like the trade at all for the Flyers. You took back a near 5 million cap hit that's a stiff ad 2 probable lower 1st round picks, and hope they can both do what Schenn did. Flyers are now a weaker team, Hextall's trades are poor at best.

24 Jun 2017 20:06:41
I'm guessing they are going for Someone like Neal, Chuck or JVR for the 1st line LW role.

23 Jun 2017 18:17:34
In a perfect world

To Philadelphia

C. Schneider, A. Henrique, S. Santini, 1st overall and 2nd rd pick

To Jersey

C. Hart, T. Konecny, I. Provorov, 2nd overall

23 Jun 2017 21:40:58
No from Philly because of Prov although the value is there.

2nd ovr and Hart=1st ovr

Henrique=Konecny

Schneider, Santini and 2nd for Prov? Not bad but no from Philly.

21 Jun 2017 18:52:44
Flyers: #2 overall pick, Matt Read

Avs: #4 overall pick, Matt Duchene

Flyers are looking to win now with their current core players and have been linked to Duchene in the past. Avs are entering a rebuilding phase and will get their future #1 center in either Patrick or Hischier. I would expect the Flyers at #4 would draft Vilardi who would be a good player further down the road.

21 Jun 2017 19:08:30
If the Avs are trading Duchene, they are getting a dman for him.

21 Jun 2017 19:20:09
Two spot difference for Duchene? MAybe #2 straight up for Duchene. But not this,

21 Jun 2017 21:02:14
Lol never happening.

21 Jun 2017 21:03:39
31 year old right wing? This is a joke.

21 Jun 2017 21:50:00
Don't get this crazy talk over Duchene. He's a good player, not a great one, even some on here make it sound like he's elite.

22 Jun 2017 01:41:31
Lol oh he's only a "good player" but somehow makes team Canada back to back times for Olympics and World Cup? Think you got to be pretty good to make that man.

24 Jun 2017 20:13:53
You read it right. A GOOD PLAYER! He made team Canada so he's great in the NHl? LMAO Please just stop the nonsense.

26 Jun 2017 23:21:52
If Sakic took this deal he would be removed from the Hockey Hall of Fame.

20 Jun 2017 03:38:26
Vegas picks fleury from pitts and neuvirth from phi

Phi: Fleury, 6th overall

Vegas: 2nd overall Sanhein macdonald read

20 Jun 2017 05:33:24
holy rubbish what?

20 Jun 2017 07:22:34
Wouldnt do it from flyers stand point. Sanhein is a really good prospect.

20 Jun 2017 16:36:40
DO NOT want Fleury on this team. He let's in a lot of soft goals, that's why he became a backup. Sanheim isn't going anywhere unless someone overpays, that offer isn't an over payment! I know you have MacDonald and Read in it but MacDonald isn't as bad as some people keep crying about. Misused doesn't mean bad.

20 Jun 2017 17:38:48
MAF has waived his NTC for the Vegas expansion only. Any trade after that by Vegas would have to be approved by him. And I highly highly highly doubt he would accept a trade to Philly. Lol.
His wife was on Vegas a month or so ago looking at neighborhoods and schools for their kids. I'm thinking he plays for Vegas now and grooms a solid prospect for their future.

21 Jun 2017 02:04:59
2nd Overall for Fleury!? Plus Sanheim? LMAO.

14 Jun 2017 22:25:53
WPG: Little, Armia
PHI: Schenn

06 Jun 2017 14:32:40
MTL Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1rst round pic 2017

Flyers : 1rst round pic 2017 + Gostisbehere

Note From me I've seen this on a blog.

Note : Apon Basu said on twitter:
So before heading home to Winnipeg, Nolan Patrick is visiting with the Devils, Flyers and...Habs. One of these things is not like the others

06 Jun 2017 15:32:38
Yea I guess I see it but I think mtl needs to sweeten the pot btw. Maybe a second rounder because Hishier is going to be a hell of a center and Beaulieu is not quite as good as Ghost even tho Ghost as been struggling last year. But Beaulieu is still a decent top 6 and I think the could use a change of scenery. I like this trade I just think mtl adds a bit.

06 Jun 2017 16:07:00
Then Galchenyuk pulls a John LeClair and becomes a star, Beaulieu pulls a Desjardins and becomes a top pairing D. no thanks.
Are Hishier and Patrick going to come in and be differnce makers in the year one . or even year 2? I honestly don't know enough about them. I know they aren't on Laine, Mathews, Eichel status. Habs are in a win now mode., although I don't see it. but what does that say to Price? We got ya a center., probably going to take 3+ years to be a star. so sign here and hope.? I dunno,

06 Jun 2017 18:15:02
Woah. That's such an easy no from Philly. Take out Ghost and they still probably say no.

06 Jun 2017 18:58:07
From Wath I've read today the thing that make the most sense of this type of trade would be

MTL : MTL Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1rst round pic 2017 + Lindgren


Flyers 1rst pic 2017 + Gostisbehere.

06 Jun 2017 20:30:37
Gab does lingren really make that big of a difference?

07 Jun 2017 15:14:55
I saw lindgren play a lot and this guy will surely be a starter in NHL, Young and talented goalie have good value.

When you look at the depht chart of Flyers you can see 2 thing : Too much center and poor goalie.

So Yes I think Lindgren have a good value for the flyers.

06 Jun 2017 00:12:21
Jersey and Philly have too two picks. And we all know there's really only two
Players going first and second.
Nolan Patrick had 3 scheduled interview meetings tho. Jersey, Philly and Montreal.
Is Montreal thinking of making a big trade?

06 Jun 2017 04:49:47
Really? Hmm. Bergevin must be up to something, cause no way he falls to 25th. (I think that's Habs pick) . let the rumours fly on this. I really hope not a trade with Philly, we always come out horrible on those.

06 Jun 2017 06:04:16
I hope Montreal trades to second and lands Hischier, I'd love to get him. Chucky, Beaulieu + 25th for 2nd ovr and other pieces?

05 Jun 2017 22:44:32
Jonathan Drouin + Ryan Callahan + 2017 2nd Round Pick + 2017 4th Round Pick to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for Ivan Provorov + Andrew MacDonald (Retention of 20%, or 1 million)

Savings of $1.8 million between MacDonald and Callahan for Tampa Bay,
Because of the retention and the NMC on Callahan, Tampa Bay adds a pick, however, due to Callahan being better than MacDonald, the pick is limited to a second rounder.

- Philly does it to add that top line winger next to Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek, possibly kickstarting them bith after an abysmal year.
- Losing Prov does hurt, however, the Flyers abundance of defenseman minimizes the pain.
- Tampa Bay does it to eleviate themseleves of a lot of money owed to Ryan Callahan. Both the contracts of MacDonald and Callahan end in three years, so term is not an issue
- Trading Drouin will sting, however, with his contract up for renewal, he will want todollar, possibky northwards of 5.5 million on a short term deal, with upwards of 6. in the future. If he opts for a long term deal at the moment, it would definetly be at a cost of over 6 million, cap space which Tampa Bay simply cannot afford to spend on him, with Hedman and Stamkos locked down, and Kucherov wanting at least 7 million in two years time. And remember, Drouin is not afraid to voice his opinion. He sat out in the AHL after he was sent down, so if he wasn't able to get the exact return for dollar that he wanted, he may sit.
- Although it is a sting to trade Drouin, Tampa Bay is acquiring a top notch dman to play alongside Victor Hedman for the forseeable future, and although Drouin may be unlikely to be traded, he offers the maximum trade vakue of the RFAs that Tampa Bay has. With their need for a dman, trading Drouin for a good one only makes sense.

Expansion draft lists;

Philly;
- (NMC) Claude Giroux
- (NMC) Ryan Callahan
- Jakub Voracek
- Jonathan Drouin
- Sean Couturier
- Wayne Simmonds
- Brayden Schenn
- Shayne Gostisbhere
- Radko Gudas
- Brandon Manning
Attempt to get Val Filppula to waive his NMC. If not, trade him to a team that he wants to go to. If not, buy him out.

Tampa Bay;
- (NMC) Steven Stamkos
- Nikita Kucherov
- Tyler Johnson
- Ondrej Palat
- Alex Killorn
- Vladislav Namestnikov
- Cedric Paquette
- (NMC) Victor Hedman
- Anton Stralman
- and a choice between Slater Koekoek or Andrej Sustr.

May be a hard trade for Philly to make, due to the movement of Val, but idk. Would the trade work?

06 Jun 2017 00:47:26
I actually have a better idea regarding Val and Philly and Vegas.
Philly trades the pick acquired from Tampa Bay (4th Rounder) to Vegas in exchange for them to not select Val Filppula in the expansion draft, if he is made available.

Philadelphia then tells Val this, and he subsequently waives his NTC. A 4th should be more than enough to not make Vegas take Val, cause they can take another player, and they also avoid Val's salary.

The reason I suggest this, is because Val may not be comfortable with waiving his NTC without confirmation that he won't be selected. With this kind of confirmation, he would be free to waive his NTC without worry.

06 Jun 2017 01:11:16
Prov will not be traded imo.

06 Jun 2017 03:03:26
Philly won't move prov.

06 Jun 2017 03:38:14
I doubt Philly will let Provorov leave, especially when they can get a Hischier or Patrick with #2. Value wise it makes sense but with Phillys good luck in the draft lottery I don't see this happening.

06 Jun 2017 12:55:09
Philly won't move Prov. Saving 1.8 mill isn't worth a second especially when giving up the better cap dump. I've heard tampa is currently trying to use a second to dump Callahan, not just a small portion.

04 Jun 2017 02:24:33
Boston: Debrusk, 1st round pick

Philadelphia: Schenn, 3rd round pick

Thoughts on the value?

04 Jun 2017 12:21:15
I'm keeping Schenn on the Flyers.

04 Jun 2017 15:10:22
Would rather keep Schenn.

04 Jun 2017 23:13:59
I'd stay with Schenn.

03 Jun 2017 16:32:58
Leafs trade and free agent idea:

Trade # 1
Toronto trades:
Jeremy Brocco, Connor Brown and 2nd in 2018

Philadelphia trades:
Brayden Schenn

Trade #2
Toronto trades:
Jvr and 17th overall

NYI:
Hamonic, Pulock and 15th overall

Trade #3
Toronto trades:
Bozak


Nashville:
2nd in 2018

Trade #4
Toronto trade:
Nashville 2nd in 2018

Washington trades:
Tom Wilson

Free agent option
Alzner, E. Gudbranson, Boyle and
Bonino.

03 Jun 2017 18:03:08
So Hamonic AND Pulock for JVR and TOR also gets the better pick? Jesus Christ.

03 Jun 2017 18:58:33
Erik Gudbranson is an RFA. So you'd that's a first and third round pick.

03 Jun 2017 20:06:02
Started out ok. I thought the Philly one was a maybe. Then got worse for there for teams not names Toronto.

03 Jun 2017 20:19:48
are you guys mad?
philly one is a no from leafs. bracco is going to make the nhl, brown got 20 goals. if brown gets traded its for a dman.

JVR one, take out Pulock and its good. either way, pulock is lost in expansion draft.

bozak one is an EASY no from leafs. 50 points for a 2nd? heck no.

wilson one is an easy no from caps. wilson provides more enrgy to their team than the worth of a 2nd.

03 Jun 2017 22:35:23
Why would the Flyers trade Schenn, and get 2 poor replacements for him? Don't care about the pick, Schenn plays multiple positions and is a good pp player.

04 Jun 2017 20:21:47
Connor brown is a good player not worth schenn I don't think bracco plays long in the NHL so no derail to be has.

02 Jun 2017 21:50:56
WPG: Roslovic, 13th Overall 2017
PHI: Schenn

then

WPG: Little
CAR: Fluery

04 Jun 2017 15:02:56
Both trades will leave the Jets much thinner and less effective down the middle.

I'm not adverse to trading these pieces but the return, especially for a centreman needs to be higher the Schenn.

31 May 2017 03:58:28
So Flyer are going to draft a top center imo either it Hishier or PATRICK I think they both will become number one center and Hishier could imo become a franchise center. SO with that said Giroux is how for grabs imo especially with his salary and underwhelming season.So he we go

Mtl:Gallagher(4,2),Emelin4,5 milkion), Sherback

Phi:Giroux ( 8,5 million)

Mtl gets their number one center and Philly gets their gritty right handed winger a good forward prospect and a decent top6 D that is mostly their for cap but could be s useful because of his gritty until Seinham and Morin are nhl ready

31 May 2017 05:23:45
Still no way on earth I'd do that if I'm philly.

31 May 2017 06:39:48
I was thinking Giroux should be a target for Montreal as well but that is not a good enough offer.

31 May 2017 07:11:03
No from Philly.

31 May 2017 13:03:20
I'm not sure why Philly would consider trading Giroux while his value is at an all time low.

31 May 2017 20:08:39
Cant see it. and i'm honestly not sure i'd want Girouxs contract and term. we have Weber signed till he's like 50, Price is going to be probably 9+ million, Giroux is at 8 . something, and seems to be regressing, no longer the 80+center, more like 55 to 65. Galchenyuk could get that if he was number one center, and pulled his head out of his butt .
So I know i'm going to get roasted, but know from Habs. only cause of contract.

31 May 2017 21:08:08
habs should avoid giroux and make a package for the flyers 1st round pick,
philly gets the gritty winger in gallagher, habs save cap space and get a centre, do not see it happening for cap reasons.

31 May 2017 20:08:39
Cant see it. and i'm honestly not sure i'd want Girouxs contract and term. we have Weber signed till he's like 50, Price is going to be probably 9+ million, Giroux is at 8 . something, and seems to be regressing, no longer the 80+center, more like 55 to 65. Galchenyuk could get that if he was number one center, and pulled his head out of his butt .
So I know i'm going to get roasted, but know from Habs. only cause of contract.

31 May 2017 21:08:08
habs should avoid giroux and make a package for the flyers 1st round pick,
philly gets the gritty winger in gallagher, habs save cap space and get a centre, do not see it happening for cap reasons.

01 Jun 2017 02:18:09
. I now know why golden nights doesn't make habs trades often. because they're as brutal as his oilers ones, except I always thought he was trolling oilers fans. Apparently he's this dumb.

30 May 2017 15:02:11
MTL : Galchenyuk,Beaulieu,Plekanec,Emelin,2nd round pic 2017(capital),2nd round pic 2017 Mtl, 2nd round pic 2018 MTl

Flyers : Claude Giroux, sean couturier, Ian provorov

30 May 2017 16:05:46
Pacioretty-Giroux-Radulov
Lekhonen-Couturier-Gallagher
Byron-Danault-Shaw
Martisen-Mitchell-McCaron

Markov-Weber
Provorov-Petry
Sergachev-Juulsen
7th Davidson alternate with juulsen and sergachev (Fair rotation)

Price
Montoya

Vegas Pick Benn.

30 May 2017 16:25:44
On what planet is that good for Philly. Absolutely garbage.

30 May 2017 16:31:02
@mcjesus Christ

3x 2nd round pic + glacheyuk + beaulieu is really not garbage and emelin is clearly the type of defensement flyers fan would love (physical)

Plekanec is garbage but a garbage that only have 1 year of salary left and we all know that it would be a big surprise if Flyers make the playoff for the 2017-2018 season.

30 May 2017 17:09:41
Not even close. If you compare this package to Giroux + Couturier and Provorov, you can call Mtl's offer garbage.

30 May 2017 18:08:07
Oh yeah I'm the biggest that's fan in the world and I'll tell you straight up this would maybe get Giroux and Couturier and that pushing it. To add Provorov is the most ridiculous things In the world.

30 May 2017 18:16:32
Awful for flyers. A top centre at 29 years old, a good two way young centre, and 19 or 20 year old dman who projects to be a top pairng guy and you're sending back a good forward who hasn't established himself as more than average top 6 in galchenyuk, a 4-6 dman in beaulieu, 2 cap dumps and 3 seconds from a playoff team (so 46th-61st overalls)? 29 teams in the league would blow that offer out of the water whether they need the pieces or not. Value wise, not number of pieces, that would barely get you provorov. They're extremely high on him being their top dman for the next decade +.

30 May 2017 18:39:33
No bro that's complete garbage. Philly is losing their franchise center basically, great young shutdown guy and their top young defenseman? For an underachiever, a top 4, a guy who hits but can't skate, some prospects who may never make the NHL and a guy trending towards not being good enough for the NHL. Yeah totally not trash at all.

30 May 2017 19:34:58
think abut it this way. is this fair?

konecny + manning + read + macdonald + 3 2nds

in exchange for patches + sergachev + galchenyuk.

remotely fair for montreal? no.

so don't even justify your original trade. its garbage, leave it at that.

31 May 2017 00:16:40
HAHAHAHA. This might be the most one sided trade ever seen. Philly hysterically laughs at you and asks if you're drunk.

31 May 2017 16:01:56
This might just be one of the worst trade proposals in the history of trade proposals.

31 May 2017 21:18:08
maybe philly feels generous considering what the habs paid for recchi
leclair and desjardins were key to phillys success in the 1990's.

31 May 2017 21:18:08
maybe philly feels generous considering what the habs paid for recchi
leclair and desjardins were key to phillys success in the 1990's.

03 Jun 2017 15:22:04
Too much free time you have. Horrific and stupid proposal. You want Provorov in any deal, you better include your top prospects.

 
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