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15 Feb 2018 19:13:52
A Buffalo writer on SB Nation wrote an article about the Flyers and Sabres rumors are made 3 mock trades which I didn't think were too bad

BUF: Kane, Lehner, 2018 second round pick
PHI: Sanheim, Stolarz, Lehtera, 2018 first round pick, 2018 second

BUF: Kane, Johnson
PHI: Sanheim, Lehtera, 2018 first, 2019 conditional third (didn't mention what the condition was, guessing it has to do with re-signing)

BUF: Lehner
PHI: 2018 second round pick and either Stolarz or Sandstrom

Personally, I wouldn't want to give up Sanheim in part of a deal for Kane unless he's already extended. I'd like if the first turns into a second or Buffalo adds a 2019 second if Kane does not re-sign. Not a huge fan of the third trade because Philly is not competing for a cup right now and I don't think upgrading Elliott (or Neuvirth depending who they'd get rid of) next year with Lehner is worth giving up that package. But overall at least in my eyes it's pretty realistic value wise

16 Feb 2018 01:40:11
From a Buffalo stand the only reason I would give you Kane and Lehner would be because of Sanheim and a 1st.

16 Feb 2018 02:44:43
All are trash. I think that the whole story is click-bait - at least it'd better be. I don't want cancer Kane anywhere near the Flyers. Lehner is not worth any of our defensive prospects. Lehtera will be buried next season - we have plenty of cap space next year.

05 Feb 2018 11:07:59
Sam Morin

Michael McCarron

Swap of prospects who didn't get a chance/struggled so far. Morin upgrades left side of Montreal's D, McCarron brings size to Philly's bottom six.

05 Feb 2018 13:34:59
I love this trade!

05 Feb 2018 16:11:40
Morin has the higher value. Mtl adds a pick.

05 Feb 2018 18:38:37
Living in Montreal I haven't been a fan of what I've seen from McCarron. All he has that stands out is his size. Being a Flyers fan I haven't been a fan of what I've seen from Morin. All he has that stands out is his size. Oh wait that's the same thing. But in all honesty McCarron can't even do great in the AHL and the Flyers don't have any d-man of Morin's type so I wouldn't want them to do this straight up. But I do agree that if they aren't going to bring him up (which I think he deserves) then trade him to a team that'll use him.

04 Feb 2018 02:59:39
I've made 3 Simmonds trades in the past. Replies stated that one of them one far in favour of the Flyers, one trade didn't get enough for him and the other got mixed reviews which I guess is sort of good if i think about but I'll just try some more

PHI: Simmonds (50% retained because I believe Blues can't take his full contract), 3rd round pick

STL: Kostin, Barbashev, conditional second round pick (turns into 2019 First if Blues make it to the Cup)

PHI: Simmonds, 4th round pick

MTL: Galchenyuk

PHI: Simmonds

TOR: Kapanen, 1st round pick

PHI: Simmonds

NSH: Tolvanen, 3rd round pick

As I was typing these they seemed fair but then when I compared all the returns, the value didn't seem equal so I already know some of it it's off. But just curious what you would change to the offers while keeping the base of the trade intact

04 Feb 2018 06:40:57
First of all, I don’t know why Philly would want to trade Simmonds. They are battling for a playoff spot and he is a very important piece to their team. Anyways, I don’t know enough about the players from St. Louis or Nashville to comment. With age difference considered I don’t think the trade for Galchenyuk is bad but I’d still keep Simmonds for another year and decide what to do then. As a leaf fan I would do that trade. Simmonds is exactly what the the leafs need. Babcock doesn’t seem to care about physicality but when the playoffs start, things get rough. The leafs have a lot of young talent but will get man handled by a team like Boston. I’d rather Toronto play Tampa just because they’re not as physical. I’m guessing you’re a Flyers fan, why do you want to trade Simmonds?

05 Feb 2018 20:39:08
The flyers would want to trade him because they can't afford a resign in 2 years and they'd get the most value this deadline. Simmonds 2 years left on that sweet contract will draw a bunch of reward.

06 Feb 2018 23:21:10
The thing about these trades is that they can all be done in the offseason so they can essentially make a playoff push with him this year and trade him in the offseason. I just feel trading him to a team at the deadline could get you more considering the team would be using him for two playoff runs instead of 1. As for why I want to trade him. Personally I think he's overrated by a lot of people. Not too much but the fact that many Flyers fans called Schenn a powerplay specialist yet never said anything remotely close to that regarding Simmonds surprises me considering the amount of his production coming on the powerplay in recent years. Yes he was better than Schenn during their tenures here but they were very similar. The main reason I would want him gone is because he's a free agent next year and he'll be looking for big money. Guys like him don't usually play too well when they reach their mid 30s and I don't want to be the team to pay him all that money. So better to get something than nothing. Not to mention we'll also have to sign some younger guys.

08 Feb 2018 15:57:26
I get what you're saying, as a Flyers fan as well I love Simmonds and wish we could keep him but my opinion is get paid as much as possible. Kapanen and a 1st or Tolvanen and a 3rd! You won't get that if next year, having three 1st this year could let them go get an Evander Kane or a guy like OEL and Kapanen fills Simms spot.

01 Feb 2018 20:14:42
CGY: Bennett, Brouwer, 2019 1st round pick

PHI: Simmonds

01 Feb 2018 21:14:25
If I’m philly I’d like a better package than that.

01 Feb 2018 21:41:12
Simmonds would be a great pick up for Calgary. I actually think it may take a little more than that to get him though.

01 Feb 2018 21:51:23
C'mon dude. As a Philly fan, I think Simmonds can get more.

28 Jan 2018 16:16:43


28 Jan 2018 20:08:06
maybe add a 2nd or 3rd from philly?

28 Jan 2018 23:23:37
Would have to wait until whatever is ailing Dubinski is cleared up. No one seems to know if it's short or long term.

25 Jan 2018 15:35:33
Phi gets Bobby Ryan, Zack Smith
Ott gets Ryan O'Reilly, Jordan Weal
Buf gets Travis Sandheim, Phi 2nd

Ryan will be inspired in Philly, provide extra scoring for playoff push. Smith provides playoff grit.. Ottawa reunites Duchene and O'Reilly who were at one time dynamic in Colorado. At the very least they will be very strong on faceoffs to help boost their sad puck control. Buf gets high end D prospect and a pick and rids themselves of long expensive contract from previous management. Ottawa future plans not affected much as they replace Ryan's contract with O'Reilly's.

25 Jan 2018 15:56:06
So Philadelphia trades Weal (6 G, 8 A in 42 GP $1.75MM until 2019), Sanheim, and a 2nd for Bobby Ryan (6 G, 13 A in 36 GP $7.25MM until 2022)?

Ryan's contract is pure cancer and he leaves a lot to be desired as a player - inconsistent, injury prone, lacking in intensity. The Senators are stuck with Ryan for a long, long time.

25 Jan 2018 17:28:06
Lolllllll Ottawa literally robs everyone.

25 Jan 2018 18:13:46
And buffalo trades oreilly for Sanheim and a 2nd?! Ok.

25 Jan 2018 21:44:12
Philly gets Zack Smith too.

25 Jan 2018 21:45:43
I'd say weal goes to buffalo instead with a 3rd and that 2nd goes to ottawa, the rest sounds good though.

Easy E I honestly think you need to do some research before commenting from now on.

Bobby Ryan -
You say injury prone - lately yes

Lacking intensity - sometimes yes sometimes no he's like kovalev

Inconsistent - not even close, outside of last season when he was plagued by health issues and injuries he has been a 60 point per year player and will be again when he gets by his soft hands.

25 Jan 2018 22:24:12
NBR, Ryan sucks. Get over it.

30 Jan 2018 10:43:55
TSS, you know Ryan does NOT suck. If he sucks then so do guys like toews Duchene turris marner voracek Schwartz etc as his stat totals are in the same ball park so you tell me. do they all suck to?

25 Jan 2018 15:13:17
If Philadelphia were to drop off before the trade deadline or Hextall wants to amass more talent for the future and forgo a Cup run this year:

St Louis: Simmonds (retained 50%, $3.975MM until 2019)
Philadelphia: Thompson, Kyrou

The Blues shift talent and goals to the present for the next two postseasons. There's a possibility to re-sign as Stastny's $7MM is expiring this year. The Blues still retain Robert Thomas as a solid C/RW prospect. Simmonds' style would fit well on the Blues.

Philadelphia shifts talent into the future, likely making Voracek, Konecny, and Kyrou as their RWs in the foreseeable future.

25 Jan 2018 16:58:26
This is ridiculous

Thomas and Kyrou are centers/ rightwing huge need for blues with statsny ufa. Like Simmonds but he is old.

25 Jan 2018 17:25:34
1. Many players transition from center in junior to wing in the NHL
2. St Louis has a strong right side with Steen, Thompson, Thomas, Kostin (who is listed as a RW but shoots left), and some guy named Tarasenko.
3. Two prospects for Simmonds at 50% retained on one of the best value contracts in the NHL is fair.

26 Jan 2018 00:14:13
Easy the only rw they have is tarsenko and thompson. Steen is a lw they tried him on right wing he was bad. The only center they have is schenn, stats is ufa, not sure he is worth what he will want. So needing centers and rightwings next year and a rw and lw the following year plus out if the four what if two are bust better to keep them all. You already got two first and lehtera for schen don't get greedy lol.

23 Jan 2018 20:32:49
Van: Gudbranson

Philly: 2nd round pick

Helps philly with their playoff push and gets them a better rhd on their team.

23 Jan 2018 21:07:15
Philly def don't need any more dmen:

- Prov
- Ghost
- Hagg
- Morin
- MacDonald
- Gudas
- Manning
- Sanheim
- Myers.

23 Jan 2018 21:47:51
Hextall doesn't trade futures for rentals and the Flyers are not solid enough contenders to go into the rental market. I see the following teams as good enough for rentals: Tampa, Boston, maybe Toronto, Washington, Columbus, Winnipeg, Nashville, and St Louis. Vegas has the record for it, but they need to build for the future.

23 Jan 2018 22:12:35
Worth a 2nd. Is that enough for Van?

11 Feb 2018 16:25:07
I like it honestly. I believe the Flyers should trade off guys like Manning and Gudas because they have no fit for this team. Gudbranson would fit very nicely but I believe he's worth more then a 2nd maybe a prospect.

20 Jan 2018 22:45:09
Detroit trades: Gustav Nyquist + Mike Green
Philadelphia trades: 2018 1st (via St. Louis) + 2nd 2019
Calgary trades: R. Andersson + E. Tuulola + A. Mangiapane (maybe Curtis Lazar?)

Detroit receives: R. Andersson + E. Tuulola + A. Mangiapane + 2018 1st (via St. Louis) + 2nd 2019
Calgary Receives: G. Nyquist
Philadelphia receives: M. Green

Why from Detroit: They are looking to rebuild as their core is aging and are way out of a playoff spot. This would be done as two separate trades but I combined them because Philadelphia would rather give up picks and Calgary would rather give up prospects and Detroit wants a mix of both for those players.

Why from Philadelphia: They do this if the decide to become buyers. They can afford to lose the picks because they have more and a good pipeline. They lack depth on the right side and their top 2 d men are inexperienced in the playoffs, Green could help tremendously in the playoffs.

Why from Calgary: They are reportedly shopping for a middle six RW, Nyquist fits that. They can afford to lose those prospects and even though Mangiapane is playing minutes on the team they have other players that can take them.

21 Jan 2018 05:58:36
so are you basically saying mike green is worth a 1st and a 2nd? ummm. not in 2018.

22 Jan 2018 02:16:50
I'm pretty sure Ken Holland would like picks instead of meh prospects. Nyquist is good for 20 goals. I think for both it would be first 2nd and roster player preferably a 3c.

18 Jan 2018 18:51:17
PHI: Sanheim, 2nd round pick (becomes a first rounder if Pacioretty scores 0.4 goals per game)

MTL: Pacitoretty

Don't know why exactly there's all these rumors about Montreal wanting to give up basically half their forwards and also seeking defensemen when they've had trouble scoring in recent seasons but decided to take a shot at it anyways

Philly gets a scoring winger who despite his struggles this season has been great in recent seasons and is on a decently cheap contract. Montreal gets a young puck moving defensemen and a decent draft pick which could possibly turn into a good one in this scenario

18 Jan 2018 19:36:35
haha lol. No from mtl. Make it a first no condition and add a little bit from theyre.

17 Jan 2018 16:37:28
Travis Sanheim + 2018 1st (2019 if Flyers miss playoffs) for Evander Kane

Nolan Patrick for Max Pacioretty + 3rd 2018

Mike Green for 3rd 2018 and Isaac Ratcliffe

17 Jan 2018 17:52:26
Not a chance they trade Patrick for Pacioretty what the F.
Green is worth more.

17 Jan 2018 18:14:21
Hahahahahaha wtf.

17 Jan 2018 21:03:01
So Nolan Patrick, Sanheim and a 1st for patches and kane essentially? No.

09 Jan 2018 18:06:26
If Philadelphia drops off and Simmonds ($3.975MM through 2018-19) is available at the deadline. The Flyers may not be able to afford him with Provorov, Konecny, and Sanheim along with roster spots for prospects like Frost, Allison etc. Simmonds gives a solid 2nd line goal scoring threat, PP producer, character, and toughness on a great contract.

Toronto: Lindgren, 2018 1st
Flyers: Simmonds

Tampa Bay: Katchouk, Raddysh, 2018 3rd
Flyers: Simmonds (50% retained)

Nashville: Fabbro or Tolvanen, 2018 1st
Flyers: Simmonds

09 Jan 2018 18:16:47
I’m not aware who Lindgren is, so maybe this is why I think this, but I think the Tampa and the Nashville trades are way way more than the leafs one.
However if Tampa goes all in, Simmonds at 50% retained wow hard to not accept that.

09 Jan 2018 18:34:46
Toronto says no, as good as Simmonds is come time to renew his contract they won’t be able to afford him, also they need the puck moving right handed d man more than another right winger. Nashville also gets hosed, fabbro is a really good prospect and Tolvanen could be the steal of last years draft and a first. granted the first will be fairly low but stillNashville gives up way too much!

09 Jan 2018 18:51:04
It was Fabbro or Tolvanen but still agree with you mertle.

09 Jan 2018 19:26:25
McJesus: I tried to balance all of the trades. Lindgren is a R defenceman selected 17th overall last year.

Mertle: Wayne Simmonds is not Thomas Vanek or some other overpriced deadline clown on a UFA. He has one year left on a great contract and an excellent player to boot. It was Fabbro or Tolvanen, not both. 1 st and an A prospect is reasonable for Simmonds. Quality for quality. I actually think Hextall could ask for a bit more on each.

09 Jan 2018 20:03:19
It’s liljegren, and that’s probably fair value but makes no sense. Leafs have tons of forwards who can produce, already going to lose a big LW 30 goal man in JVR because we probably can’t afford him. If philly can’t afford him because of provorov and koneckny, what chance do leafs (Matthews, marner, nylander) Tampa (kucherov, vasilevsky) have of signing him? And teams like those going forward with guys going to get massive raises internally can’t justify giving up multiple good young cheap assets for him to walk in a year.

09 Jan 2018 20:16:00
Lindgren with Habs and Simmonds not worth their first alone.

09 Jan 2018 20:26:43
Shiza. I even looked up his name and draft ranking. My bad.

Unbiased Jim: you're correct that Toronto may not be able to afford him just like the Flyers, however, the key difference is that Toronto can actually have a shot at winning a Cup in the next two playoffs. The last time I checked, Komarov is pencilled in at 2 RW and Simmonds would be a big upgrade. Ultimately, out of the 3 teams I proposed, Toronto makes less sense than Nashville and Tampa Bay, but still logical.

09 Jan 2018 20:42:14
I dunno about both Katchouk and Raddysh. Both are great prospects. Maybe one of them and a first.

09 Jan 2018 22:25:16
My bad, didn’t catch the “or” in the Nashville trade. I agree that Simmonds is a really good player I still think it’s too much for a year and a half of him. I also think that Nashville is playing good hockey, they have a good group and sometimes it’s not a good idea to mess with team chemistry during the season. Young promising d man and centerman are more valuable than wingers. that’s just my opinion tho.

09 Jan 2018 23:47:05
I like these trades way too much so I'm going to assume they are all in favour of the Flyers.

10 Jan 2018 00:34:02
Okay yeah his name was not spelt right so I had no idea lol but ok makes more sense now.

10 Jan 2018 05:23:32
I’d want to replace Lindgren with Kappy or Connor brown Toronto needs him in the system.

10 Jan 2018 21:03:12
Komarov is only that high in the lineup because he’s kadris winger and kadris line shuts down every top line. If they’re looking for more goal scoring they have marner and nylander are clearly above komarov on the depth chart at RW, and Connor Brown scored 20 goals last year playing bottom 6 minutes and is on his way to 18+ again. That’s an option. Not trying to pick on your trade or analysis, just goal scoring and wing depth is not leafs issue at all.

07 Jan 2018 04:47:06
PHI: Rubtsov

ARI: Duclair

07 Jan 2018 22:57:00
No from Philly Duclair isn’t worth a 1st.

09 Jan 2018 18:45:04
Rubtsov didn't look very good at the world juniors, haven't seen him during the season but I'd do this if I was Philly. Hard to judge talent coming out of Arizona. Duclair could be a 30 goal scorer around the right people in a year or two for all we know.

05 Jan 2018 02:03:58
I've read that the Leafs are looking for a defenceman that can play up and down their line up. If you set aside his goon reputation, I'd propose Radko Gudas. He's right-handed, played well in all situations with Philadelphia, and drives possession (2017/18 CF/60 56.0 CA/60 54.7). Since Toronto is tight against the cap and has max contracts, what do you think of:

Tor: Gudas ($3.5MM until 2020), 2018 5th (Arizona)
Philadelphia: Lupul ($5.5MM LTIR until the end of this season), 2018 2nd (San Jose), 2018 3rd (San Jose), 2019 3rd

05 Jan 2018 07:02:33
If I’m leafs I’m going for a different player.

06 Jan 2018 07:07:33
I’m going for a different player and trading Lupul does nothing as he’s LTIR anyway. Doesn’t count on leafs cap. So they would still have to move money out. There’s is no one on that team that they would want to sacrafice for Radko Gudas lol.

28 Dec 2017 08:36:27
EDM: Hopkins, Puljujarvi

PHI: Simmonds, Raffl, Sanheim, Flyers 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick


MTL: Galchenyuk, De La Rose

PHI: Simmonds, Morin

No logic to the deals or anything like that. Just curious about the value and value only. Just trying to learn how biased I really am. Am I completely off?

28 Dec 2017 10:10:38
So Galchenyuk and De La Rose have more value than Hopkins and Pujuljarvi?

28 Dec 2017 13:55:01
@kingslover. The oilers are getting raffl, a 1st and 2nd to make up the difference, not saying I agree with his trades, but don’t see how this says the habs players have more value.

Oilers get Simmonds, a young D prospect, a depth forward and 2 high picks

Habs get Simmonds, and a young D prospect.

28 Dec 2017 16:54:44
@Kingslover don't know why'd you say that. Simmonds = Simmonds. Sanheim > Morin. Raffl, 1st and 2nd round pick > nothing.

28 Dec 2017 20:51:50
Mtl are not giving young Galchenyuk for oldSimmonds, dream on.

30 Dec 2017 02:49:33
I would take Simmonds anytime.

27 Dec 2017 23:43:33
Couple of trades that could benefit Toronto w. a decently lengthy playoff run:

Toronto Acquires:
- Brandon Manning
- Valtteri Filppula

Philadelphia Acquires:
- Nikita Soshnikov
- Eric Fehr
- 2018 2nd Round Pick (SJS)

No salary retained here, basically the 2nd for Manning, and Sosh and Fehr for Filppula. All are UFAs after the year, besides Sosh. A 2nd is more than fair for Manning, and honestly, you downgrade from Flipper to Fehr, but Flipper is maybe going to get like a 4th/ 5th at the deadline, as seen from previous deadline deals for large salary players. So I think Sosh for him is pretty fair. Hell, if it really seems unfair, i'm willing to thrown in some more picks.

Toronto Acquires:
- Ian Cole

Pittsburgh Acquires:
- Josh Leivo
- Leo Komarov
- 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick

Simple. Pittsburgh just acquired Oleksiak, who plays identical hockey to Cole. Pittsburgh has centre depth, even though Sheahan is soso, but they need better, cheaper wingers for Crosby. Leo can play winger on a third line role, or take Sheahans spot, but Leivo may be able to jump and produce with Crosby in a similar manner as Sheary, Rust and Guentzel have. Idk. It was either this, or Bozak straight up, but from a leaf perspective, the more centers we have for the run, the better. Bozak for Cole is probably better, but whatever.


Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Zach Hyman - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Mitch Marner
Matt Martin - Valtteri Filppula - Kasperi Kapanen
*Dominic Moore

Ron Hainsey - Morgan Rielly
Ian Cole - Jake Gardiner
Brandon Manning - Nikita Zaitsev
*Connor Carrick, Andreas Borgman

Frederik Andersen
Curtis McElheinney

Just becomes a more defensively oriented team on the backend, and a more skilled team up front. They can now roll four lines and be unafraid, and the three top dmen (Zaitsy, Gardiner, Rielly) are all paired with shutdown partners. And plus, our only major FUTURE losses are:
- Josh Leivo
- Nikita Soshnikov
- 2nd Round Pick
- 3rd Round Pick

But this team could actually make some noise in the playoffs. I'm A OK losing that as futures tbh.

28 Dec 2017 03:51:20
Filpulla was almost traded to Leafs last year but refused to play for Babcock. Leafs likely on his no trade list again for the same reason.

28 Dec 2017 10:13:41
Solid value for the first trade, can Filp be trade to Leafs like is his no trade clause nulled now? The second may be a lil too much for a 3rd pair guy like Cole but not outrageous.

28 Dec 2017 14:21:08
Filppula doesn't like Babs so there goes that idea. Second trade isn't bad. I would modify it so it's Cole for Komarov, a 2018 2nd and a conditional 3rd.

28 Dec 2017 14:52:41
Oh yeah, sh! t. Forgot about Flippers relation w. Babs.

But I mean, I think the reason he didn't wanna go play is cause of guys like Michalek, Lupul, Cowen, Laich, etc. Guess he didn't wanna end up like that. Or was it actually bc of Babs? Maybe the two teams could talk him out of it this year? Idk.

And @THF
I think Pittsburgh would rather Leivo because they need the scoring help asap. I'd also like Leivo to go to somewhere where he can succeed, cause really, I think Toronto is going to bring back JVR, and there simply isn't any way that he'll make Torontos top 9.

28 Dec 2017 15:09:19
First one has the obvious flaw of filp not wanting to be here. And as a leafs fan, I wouldn’t pay that for ian Cole. Just don’t see him as an answer. With the money going to be shelled out in the next couple years, cheap controllable assets like Leivo and draft picks will be essential for leafs to stay competitive. I’m okay with them moving guys or picks for a good D, just don’t think Cole is a big enough improvement over guys we have to pay that price.

20 Dec 2017 19:54:08
Seems like the oilers might be making some room to pick up some scoring help
Here's my proposal
To EDM: Wayne Simmonds
To PHI: Anton slepyshev, 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd

20 Dec 2017 21:08:44
Don't forget they also get Pacioretty for Depth players.

20 Dec 2017 22:38:37
Are you sure you didn't mean to say 2 1st picks instead of 2nds?

21 Dec 2017 06:07:18

21 Dec 2017 06:31:27
philly would get better offers from about 10-15 other teams if they were actively shopping simmons.

21 Dec 2017 18:54:20
I don't think it's as horrible as some make this out to be. It may be a little light for Simmonds, but I think he gets a little over valued on this site.

20 Dec 2017 06:06:12
I've been a fan of Kapanen for a while. Seems like he's getting a little blocked out by depth on the Leafs. Similar situation with Morin on the Flyers so how bout this deal

TOR: Kapanen

PHI: Morin and a 3rd round pick

Or if Philly doesn't wanna give up youth and Toronto would prefer right handed d-men

TOR: Kapanen

PHI: Gudas, 2nd round pick, 4th round pick, Laberge

I ain't going to deny it. I often lowball without noticing because I'm a biased fan so please tell me any changes I should make

20 Dec 2017 14:43:23
If Morun would be traded it wouldn't be for Kapanen, it would be for a guy like Marner. I think you're valuing Kapanen a little high in both trades.

20 Dec 2017 14:44:51
First one isn’t bad, but I’d rather keep kapanen. Leafs have D prospects and also have 3 UFA forwards in bozak, JVR and komarov. More important to have kappy here to take one of those spots full time in October than add another Unproven D.

No desire for Gudas at all. He’s a weapon out there. We have Polak who plays hard and has the odd questionable hit, but stays on the right side of the line most of the time. Gudas just crosses the line by miles too often. Can’t respect a guy that doesn’t respect anyone else.

20 Dec 2017 16:39:49
Morin for marner?! I don’t think anyone makes that trade. John Ferguson Jr doesn’t even touch that one. Morin May just be taking some time to come into his own, but he’s not blowing anyone away in 4 years since being drafted. Marner has a 60 pt season under his belt before he’s 20, and on his way to another. Not even close. Leafs would trade marner in a package for A number one proven D, or maybe for a similar age guy with the potential to be a star like hanifin or something. But not for a project like Morin.

20 Dec 2017 18:23:49
I’d anything the first trade isn’t too bad.

21 Dec 2017 02:34:56
Marner for Morin and Provonov maybe lol but seriously Marner has Elite 80+ point potential and like Jim said he is already a proven 60+ point player who teams set game plans against. Meanwhile Morin is A. Older B. Lower potential and C. not even a current NHL player. There is a chance he won’t even make the nhl full time. Just a stupid comment.

21 Dec 2017 06:09:48
Nylander really? Looool

21 Dec 2017 16:36:05
Flamers, I’m pretty sure nylander was kidding with the Morin and provorov comment. But what he says after that makes sense. The original offer of kapanen and Morin isn’t bad, but saying marner for Morin is the equivalent of leafs saying kapanen for provorov.

22 Dec 2017 01:15:38
Ya but Marner doesn't seem like a player that can be a 80+ player. Especially if you're playing him on the fourth line

02 Jan 2018 19:05:15
Someone stated.

"First one isn’t bad, but I’d rather keep kapanen. Leafs have D prospects and also have 3 UFA forwards in bozak, JVR and komarov. More important to have kappy here to take one of those spots full time in October than add another Unproven D.

No desire for Gudas at all. He’s a weapon out there. We have Polak who plays hard and has the odd questionable hit, but stays on the right side of the line most of the time. Gudas just crosses the line by miles too often. Can’t respect a guy that doesn’t respect anyone else. "

Toronto has employed some of the dirtiest players to ever play the game, and were talking respect for others? that's some funny stuff there.

16 Dec 2017 19:40:37
Hawks should rebuild why there players still have good value, hawks are good but no longer good enough to win the cup

Buf: Kane, Crawford

Chi: Kane, Moulson, Bogosian, Beaulieu, Lehner, Ullmark, Nylander, 1st unprotected, 2nd 2019 becomes first if buf makes the playoffs

Mtl: Toews, Murphy

Chi: Galchenyuk, Lekonen, Petry, hemsky, Fucale, 1st unprotected, 2nd 2019 if mtl makes playoffs

Nyr: Anisimov, franson, wingels

Chi: Staal, Chytil, 1st 2019

Ott: Keith, Panik, Sharp

Chi: White, Ceci, Burrows, Condon, Macarthur, 1st 2019, 2nd if sens make it to the stanley cup finals in the next two years

Bos: Saad

Chi: Beleasky, Miller, Zboril, 1st 2019

Sjs: E. Kane, Condon

Chi: Boeker, Martin, Dell, 1st 2019, 2nd if kane re signs

Phi: Galchenyuk, Seabrook

Chi: Lethora, MacDonald, Sanhien, 2nd, 1st 2019

Hawks don't take a bad contract longer than 4 years, try and get jack hughes next years, got young players like: white, Chytil, Lekonen, Nylander, Still have dibrincat, dmen you got Sanhien, Zboril Ceci, Goalies dell and ullmark a lot of picks, bad contract: Lethora, Macdonal, Boeaker, Martin, Staal, Bealsky, Bogosian, hopefully be able to trade miller, petry, lehner

16 Dec 2017 20:25:41
Because Chicago would totally do this 🙄.

16 Dec 2017 20:40:59
The hawks are not trading Toews.

16 Dec 2017 21:00:54
Dumbest post iv ever seen, sorry. Like what are you talking about man :/.

16 Dec 2017 22:01:42
This is a whole new level.

17 Dec 2017 04:00:35
This is one of the worst. Until Toews and Kane are like 32 33 years old. they will try and figure out how to put the best team around these guys. not destroy the team altogether.

17 Dec 2017 04:23:47
Agree but still Hawks used to be carried by Toews Crawford Keith Kane
Toews down 3 to go.

23 Dec 2017 12:18:47
Multiple NOs starting with Chicago . duh?

14 Dec 2017 19:04:09
Flyers: Landeskog
Colorado: Morin + lindblom

15 Dec 2017 01:01:16
yeah, landeskog has a better value for sure... IDK what you're thinking

15 Dec 2017 01:12:04
That's a solid no.

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