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17 Jun 2018 15:31:13
Bruins give:
- Anton khudobin
- nick Holden


Flyers give:
- petr mrazek
- Andrew Mcdonald


Bruins swap good goalie for good goalie but the bruins get the younger one and the flyers have five goalies
And the bruins aren't going to sign Holden back i know he'll be a free agent I just couldn't find a fair trade partner for McDonald but Mcdonald did good this year to add a good depth on defence

16 Jun 2018 06:34:36
Philly Calgary
Hamilton and gawdin for sanheim and konecny

16 Jun 2018 07:05:49
No from calgary

16 Jun 2018 08:52:44
Hhahahahahaha wtf no from calgary.

16 Jun 2018 18:16:52
Doubt philly considers moving Konechny. Think they move Patrick before him.

12 Jun 2018 14:57:18
Edmonton:
Karl Alzner D

Montreal:
Milan Lucic LW


Florida:
Max Pacioretty LW
Shea Weber D
Alex Galchenyuk LW

Montreal:
Jonathan Huberdeau LW
Nick Bjugstad C
Jamie McGinn LW
1st 2019


Philadelphia:
Carey Price G

MOntreal:
Shayne Gostisbehere D
Nolan Patrick C
Scott Laughton C

12 Jun 2018 15:15:04
I kinda like the first trade but still would rather have alzners contract than lucics.

Second trade i'd decline as a habs fan. To many big name moving pieces.

Third trade philidalphia laughs.

12 Jun 2018 16:18:29
3rd trade Montreal laughs. Top 4 dman, unproven rookie (of being capable of being that #1 center for Montreal yet) and a 3rd liner lol.

12 Jun 2018 17:25:53
Chillax. The last trade is a heck no from philly. Carey is turning 31 and has 10.5 mil contract. No team wants that, knowing that his prime is over and that he just had a terrible season with mtl

12 Jun 2018 17:44:10
Ghost played like a top pairing D last season, Nolan Patrick handled 2C very well, and Laughton is worthless lol unless Montreal retained salary Philly laughs.

12 Jun 2018 21:45:24
I hope McJesus is being sarcastic. Ghost was only a couple points shy of out producing the legendary Leon the god Draistle this season.

13 Jun 2018 01:39:46
Yeah mcjesus, I would hope philly says no there. But if a team should overpay for goaltending it’s probably Philly. The way price has looked, and I’m not writing him off completely, but it has to be concerning for a team acquiring him. That’s good youth going the other way and a huge contract coming back. I’d pass if I was philly lol.

11 Jun 2018 11:32:35
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

11 Jun 2018 17:45:14
Wtf great deal for caps.

11 Jun 2018 11:30:48
Edmonton Plans ideas:

To CAR:
• Jesse Puljujärvi
• 10th Overall Selection in 2018
To EDM:
• Justin Faulk

To PHI:
• Kailer Yamamoto
• Tyler Benson
• Second Round Pick
To EDM:
• Wayne Simmonds

To ARI:
• Ryan Strome
• Matt Benning
• Third Round Pick
To EDM:
• Jason Demers

To TOR:
• Andrej Sekera
To EDM:
• Second Round Pick

Sign James Van Riemsdyk (4m x 4yrs), Sam Gagner (2m x 1yr)

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Wayne Simmonds
James Van Riemsdyk - Leon Draisaitl - Sam Gagner
Milan Lucic - Drake Cagguila - Ty Rattie
Anton Slepyshev - Jujhar Khaira - Zack Kassian

Oscar Klefbom - Justin Faulk
Darnell Nurse - Adam Larsson
Kris Russell - Jason Demers

11 Jun 2018 14:22:21
Sam Gagner isn’t a free agent. He has two years left on his contract with the Canucks.

11 Jun 2018 17:22:38
JVR won't sign for $4M. leafts would keep him for that.

11 Jun 2018 17:37:51
Sam Gagner makes over $3mill for 2 more years lol you want him to terminate that and sign for $1 mill?

And if JVR was willing to take $4mill for 4 years, he would never be leaving Toronto. They would give him 7 years probably if he would take $4 mill. Reality is he’s probably 6-7 years in the $6-7 mill range.

11 Jun 2018 17:46:56
Sekera for 2nd hahahahaha okay.

11 Jun 2018 17:49:04
But so:
No from Edmonton (not both)
No from Edmonton (cant give away all our prospects)
No from Edmonton (he was a ufa not long ago)
Huge yes from Edmonton
Both free agents signings aren’t realistic at all.

11 Jun 2018 11:26:08
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

04 Jun 2018 11:05:07
To CGY:
• Brendan Gallagher
• Wayne Simmonds
To MTL:
• TJ Brodie
• Jori Lehtera
To PHI:
• Sam Bennett
• Michael Frolik
• Artukki Lekhonen


CGY Upgrades

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Wayne Simmonds
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Brendan Gallagher
Kris Versteeg - Mark Jankowski - Micheal Ferland
Garnet Hathaway - Curtis Lazar - Troy Brouwer

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
Rasmus Andersson - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone

Max Pacioretty - Philip Danault - Jonathan Drouin
Paul Byron - Jori Lehtera - Charles Hudon
Alex Galchenyuk - Jacob de la Rose - Nikita Sherbak
Daniel Carr - Mitchell McCarron - Andrew Shaw

TJ Brodie - Shea Weber
Victor Mete - Jeff Petry
Karl Alzner - David Schlemko

Sean Couturier - Claude Giroux - Jakub Voracek
Oskar Lindblom - Nolan Patrick - Travis Konecny
Artukki Lehkonen - Sam Bennett - Michael Frolik
Jordan Weal - Valterri Fippula - Michael Raffl

04 Jun 2018 13:14:36
Calargry makes out like Bandits.

04 Jun 2018 15:09:21
hell no from montreal.

04 Jun 2018 22:16:26
Why would mtl do this.

04 Jun 2018 05:32:27
Toronto: Justin Faulk

Carolina: Jake Gardiner

Both players are incredibly similar to one another and often show signs of offensive brilliance with many defensive blunders thrown in. They are roughly the same age and after next season Gardiner will be looking for a contract similar to Faulks existing one. Gardiners has certainly been the better player over the past couple seasons offensively and defensively especially in regards to Corsi and other related advances stats. The Maple Leafs essentially make a lateral move to strengthen the right side since their left side is capable enough with the emergence of Travis Dermott.


Toronto: Radko Gudas

Philadelphia: Andrew Nielsen, 2019 2nd round pick

Toronto makes another addition to their right side, essentially filling it out and making it miles more stable than last year. Philly gets much needed cap relief and can afford to move Gudas with the logjam of young upcoming defensemen in Philly. Babcock gets his Polak replacement who does all the same things but better.


Rielly - Faulk

Dermott - Gudas

Borgman - Zaitsev.

04 Jun 2018 05:44:57
So easy no from Carolina.

04 Jun 2018 13:18:18
Carolina takes that and runs Gardiner out produced their best offensive player ( Skinner 48 points ) as a dman ( 52 points) Faulk is so overrated Carolina can keep him I’ll even take Ziatsev over him.

04 Jun 2018 16:41:09
This Gardiner vs Faulk thing is getting old lol. I’d take Gardiner with a bit of bias but others can make a case for Faulk that I don’t think is really wrong either. Saying that, leafs take this trade because it gives them a stronger R side and another year before a big raise (Faulk ufa 2020/ Gardiner 2019). But Carolina doesn’t need another D coming back. Gardiner would be Beijing hanifin, pesce ans slavin. If trading Faulk it’s for a producing F.

29 May 2018 18:16:21
WPG: Armia, 2nd Round Pick
PHI: 1st Round Pick 2018

29 May 2018 19:59:21
The Jets would want the #14 pick from Philly as Armia is a very underrated defensive forward.

29 May 2018 21:19:41
Top 15 picks aren’t thrown around for ‘underrated defensive forwards’ lol he’s a 3rd liner, playing 12 min a night and has less than 60 pts in 8 years since being drafted as a 1st rounder. 14th overall haha.

28 May 2018 18:19:26
If philly can not sign one of tavares stasnty or reilly nash i. Free agency
To philly
J staal 2 million retained
To carolina
2019 lottery protected 1st
German rubstov
Laughton
*if lottery add a 2nd in 2020 plus 2020 1st unprotected

Might be a high price but center postion would be solved for next few years
Countier 4.3
Patrick entry level
Staal just above 4
Salary cap friendly

Would carolina do that?

28 May 2018 18:41:28
Philly should go for a different centerman imo.

28 May 2018 22:25:46
Philly does not touch this that could land a better center.

26 May 2018 23:52:46
Buffalo Sabres Plan:

Jason Pominville (RW - 5.6 Million x 1 Year - 28.6% Salary Retention) to the Dallas Stars in exchange for 2018 3rd Round Draft Selection + 2019 5th Round Draft Selection.



2018 1st Round Draft Selection (SJS) + Johan Larsson (LW - 1.475 Million x 1 Year) + Eric Cornel (C - ELC) to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Tanner Pearson (3.75 Million x 3 Years) .

(Kings are probably looking to rebuild after a dismal end to 2017/ 18; Pearson looks to simply be a 40ish point guy, is expandable for a mid 1st and two young pieces) .



Zach Bogosian (D - 5.145 Million x 2 Years) to the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for Duncan Siemens (D - RFA) + 2019 3rd Round Draft Selection.

(Similar to Colin Wilson deal last year, Avs take on a meh player with a higher cap hit to upgrade their team) .


Resign:
Sam Reinhart (RW) - 5.0 Million x 5 Years
Robin Lehner (G) - 4.0 Million x 3 Years
Nicolas Baptiste (RW) - 1.0 Million x 2 Years

Free Agency:
David Perron (LW) - 5.5 Million x 4 Years.
Matt Calvert (RW) - 2.5 Million x 2 Years
Petr Mrazek (G) - 2.0 Million x 2 Years [Assuming Philadelphia does not qualify]

Lineup:
Sam Reinhart (5.0 Million) - Jack Eichel (10.0 Million) - Tanner Pearson (3.75 Million)
David Perron (5.5 Million) - Ryan O’Rielly (7.5 Million) - Kyle Okposo (6.0 Million)
Evan Rodrigues (0.65 Million) - Casey Mittelstadt (ELC) - Alexander Nylander (ELC)
Matt Calvert (2.5 Million) - Zemgus Girgensons (1.5 Million) - Nicolas Baptiste (1.0 Million)

Rasmus Dahlin (ELC) - Rasmus Ristolainen (5.0 Million)
Jake McCabe (1.6 Million) - Nathan Beaulieu (2.4 Million)
Marco Scandella (4.0 Million) - Victor Antipin (1.0 Million)

Robin Lehner (4.0 Million)
Petr Mrazek (2.0 Million)

- Basically, strip this team of its waste pieces and form a new, faster team identity. Give Eichel a wingman like Pearson too.

27 May 2018 00:23:19
Some makes sense. Decent value on a lot of it, but 3 more years of robin lehner as the go to guy at $4mill? Teams in the league have goalies they would throw away better than him. They won’t be better till he’s upgraded.

27 May 2018 01:01:52
You don’t put a 18 year old dman on the top pair.

27 May 2018 03:45:05
@UBJ

True. problem is, he's an RFA, and they needa resign him, and qualifying would be for 4 million. Maybe not three years, but for sure they'll qualify. And I feel he could actually play decent with a better core in front of him.

26 May 2018 18:13:01
Avalanche send
• Mikko Rantanen
• Mathew Nieto
Flames send
• Dougie Hamilton
• Sam Bennett
• Mark Jankowski
Flyers send
• Wayne Simmonds

Breakdown-

Flames acquire Mikko Rantanen, Wayne Simmonds.
Avalanche acquire Dougie Hamilton.
Flyers acquire Sam Bennett, Mathew Nieto, Mark Jankowski.

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Rantanen
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - W Simmonds
M Ferland - D Dube - M Frolik
G Hathaway - C Lazar - T Brouwer

S Courturier - C Giroux - J Voracek
O Lindbolm - N Patrick - T Konency
S Bennett - M Jankowski - M Raffl
J Letehra - V Fippula - J Weal

26 May 2018 18:45:58
So no from philly big time and also no from Colorado as sakic said rant is untouchable.

26 May 2018 18:49:43
I wouldn't trade Rantanen for what the flames are giving. hard to think they would also get Simmonds.

26 May 2018 21:52:05
Lmao Hamilton, Bennett and Jankowski get you Rantanen AND Simmonds? That's actually laughable.

27 May 2018 07:11:10
I'd rather keep dougie, everyone's so hard in him, I think he's great, if Calgary need to trade a dman to get forward help move Brodie.

21 May 2018 18:20:19
Edmonton-Caggiula


Philadelphia-Aube-kubel

Edmonton gets a young right winger who could play in the bottom six and plays on the edge. Philly gets a guy who will get you 10 goals at least and is slightly more proven.

They are similar players but help each team fill something: experience for Philly, a righr winger for Edmonton.

I saw this all in an article.

21 May 2018 22:26:34
I wouldn't want to trade Caggulia. he jus seems what the league is all about these days. speed speed and more speed.
However I am not familiar with the guy from Philly, so maybe he is just as fast.


I honestly don't think Edmonton should do to many changes. I think they will be just fine. if. any changes need to be made, it will be in goal. let's see if Talbot can get back to 16/ 17 form. if he can. Oilers are contenders .
Pretty much anyone without the number 97 on his back played below expectations.

21 May 2018 15:55:25
Matt Martin (LW - 2.5 Million x 2 Years - 25% Salary Retention) and 2018 4th Round Selection to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for Tyler Ennis (C/ LW - 4.2 Million x 1 Year)

- Similar contracts and cap totals being swapped; one at less of a hit for an additional cost. Martin is worse than Ennis, so the pick is added, however, Ennis’ production for his cap hit is pretty worrisome. Toronto needs more cap hit for the 2019/ 20 season because of Matthews&Marner’s contracts, so they can afford the pricy tag for Ennis for the next year. If Minny wants free agents, then it makes more sense for them to take the cheaper contract, albeit for an extra year.

Jake Gardiner (D - 4.05 Million x 1 Year) to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for Connor Murphy (D - 3.85 Million x 4 Years) and 2018 3rd Round Selection.

- Chicago could use an offensively minded dman, Toronto could use a defensive oriented one. Although Murphy has a longer term, and is locked down for longer, Gardiner is the superior dman based on the previous seasons statistics, and that's why Chicago adds the 3rd Round Pick. Gardiner could be useful alongside a true DFD like Brent Seabrook, and Murphy could partner well with Morgan Rielly.

2018 3rd Round Selection (Chicago) + Curtis McElhinney (G - 0.8 Million x 1 Year) + 2019 4th Round Selection to the Dallas Stars in exchange for Valeri Nichushkin (LW - Rights - Contract Extension: 2.25 Million x 3 Years) .

- Dallas acquires two draft picks and a cheap backup goalie to aid Ben Bishop, in order to not overplay him during the season. Mac played better than Lehtonen, and tbh, Dallas needs to move on from him. Toronto acquires a wild card: a guy who was a 30 point man in his first stint in the NHL, and a guy who has been 0.5 PPG in the KHL. He could be great alongside Auston, or could bust out, be worse than Connor Brown, and then defect back to Russia.

2018 2nd Round Selection + Josh Leivo (RW - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for Samuel Morin (D - RFA - Contract Extension: 1.5 Million x 2 Years) + 2018 5th Round Selection.

- Philly has a ton of young dmen (Prov, Ghost, Hagg, Sanheim, Myers), as well as some veterans such as Gudas, so Morin seems expandable, especially since his growth has somewhat stunted in Phillys farm system. Its possible he could use a fresh start, and maybe he could turn it around, especially on a team that could certainly use DFD. Philly gets a bottom six winger who never got a chance in Toronto, and a decent pick around 55th overall. Toronto gets a guy who could be a solid DFD for the future, or a guy who may be no more than a 5-6 dman.

Draft:

(C) Vitaly Kravtsov - MHL:
Comparable: Evgeny Kuznetsov
Rankings: Between 15-25.

If not.

(D) Mattias Samuelson - USA
Strengths: Hitting, Defensive Responsibility.
Rankings: 21-25.

Extensions:
William Nylander - C/ RW - 5.75 Million x 7 Years
Tyler Bozak - C - 3.0 Million x 1 Year
Andreas Johnsson - LW - 1.75 Million x 3 Years
Auston Matthews - C - 10.0 Million x 8 Years
Mitch Marner - RW - 7.0 Million x 8 Years)

Free Agency:
John Carlson - D - 8.0 Million x 7 Years

Lineup:
Valeri Nichushkin (2.25 Million) - Auston Matthews (ELC) - Mitch Marner (ELC)
Patrick Marleau (6.25 Million) - Nazem Kadri (4.5 Million) - William Nylander (5.75 Million)
Andreas Johnsson (1.75 Million) - Tyler Bozak (3.0 Million) - Kasperi Kapanen (0.85 Million)
Zach Hyman (2.25 Million) - Par Lindholm (0.85 Million) - Connor Brown (2.1 Million)
*Tyler Ennis (4.2 Million), Miro Aaltonen (0.8 Million)

Travis Dermott (ELC) - John Carlson (8.0 Million)
Morgan Rielly (5.0 Million) - Connor Murphy (3.85 Million)
Ron Hainsey (3.0 Million) - Nikita Zaitsev (4.25 Million)
*Samuel Morin (1.5 Million), Igor Ozhiganov (0.8 Million)

Frederik Andersen (5.0 Million)
Garrett Sparks (0.85 Million)

Total Cap: 68.725 Million
- Fourth line is the checking line against teams top lines, Hyman, Brown and Lindholm are all defensively responsible and will be the matchup line.

When Matthews and Marner and Dermotts extensions kick in.

Lineup:
Valeri Nichushkin (2.25 Million) - Auston Matthews (10.0 Million) - Mitch Marner 7.0 Million)
Patrick Marleau (6.25 Million) - Nazem Kadri (4.5 Million) - William Nylander (5.75 Million)
Andreas Johnsson (1.75 Million) - Miro Aaltonen (0.8 Million) - Kasperi Kapanen (0.85 Million)
Zach Hyman (2.25 Million) - Par Lindholm (0.85 Million) - Connor Brown (2.1 Million)
*Carl Grundstrom (ELC), Trevor Moore (ELC)

Travis Dermott (0.875 Million) - John Carlson (8.0 Million)
Morgan Rielly (5.0 Million) - Connor Murphy (3.8 Million)
Samuel Morin (1.5 Million) - Nikita Zaitsev (4.25 Million)
*Andreas Borgman (0.875 Million)

Frederik Andersen (5.0 Million)
Garrett Sparks (0.85 Million)

Total Cap: 76.525 Million

With the cap going up, this seems reasonable. If not, a Marleau trade could happen and could become a legitimate possibility.

21 May 2018 18:21:17
U know what u put a lot of thought and energy into this so I read the who thing, some things are questionable? But for the most part very realistic and in depth.

21 May 2018 19:06:29
There is just way to many variables for this to be believable IMO I do like a lot of those ideas tho but I think Carlson gets more and I’d rather a different package for Gardiner and I’m sure Chicago would want more term then 1 year with Gardiner. Valeri Nichuskinin is pretty redundant although I do like him not sure if Dallas Bites.

21 May 2018 19:07:32
Lol ty @Kings.

I didn't have much to do over the long weekend so I decided to make a post regarding what I'd like the leafs future to be like.

20 May 2018 16:28:23
Calgary: Mikael Backlund + Sam Bennett + Dougie Hamilton + Glenn Gawdin
New York: John Tavares (Verbal Agreement to resign)

Calgary: Michael Ferland + Adam Ruzicka + 2nd Round Pick
Philadelphia: Wayne Simmonds

Calgary: Troy Brouwer + Adam Fox + 3rd Round Pick
Arizona: Max Domi

Sign Sam Gagner 2m x 1yr

Johnny Gaudreau - John Tavares - Wayne Simmonds
Matthew Tkachuk - Sean Monahan - Michael Frolik
Max Domi - Mark Jankowski - Sam Gagner
Curtis Lazar - Nick Shore - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - TJ Brodie
Rasmus Andersson - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone

I think they improve and they upgrade their scoring alot. .

20 May 2018 19:36:04
Lol. Trading that much for a UFA. That's awesome. If he wants to sign in Calgary then just sign him. NYI says yes please if they know he's not resigning.

19 May 2018 07:09:32
A man could dream

Tampa: Simmonds, Morin, 2nd round pick (or whatever pick needed)
Philly: Katchouck, Raddysh

Carolina: Voracek
Philly: Teravainen (assuming that trade is in their favour, draft picks to even it out)

Future lines

Teravainen - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Allison
KATCHOUCK - FROST - RADDYSH
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Rubtsov

Provorov - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - Myers
Hagg - 2018 Draft Pick

Hart
Sandstrom

19 May 2018 13:19:16
Where's giroux.

19 May 2018 14:31:35
Gone via Free Agency.

19 May 2018 15:09:34
He still has 4 years left on his contract haha I can see you’re a big flyers fan when you don’t know your captain and best player is still on the team.

19 May 2018 17:27:06
I would think it was obvious that future lines meant 4-5 years down the road and not now. Even if that wasn't clear I highly doubt a mid first round d-man picked this year would be able to start next season which would be another indication that these lines aren't next season. Same thing with Myers, Hart, Sandstrom, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe and at least a couple if not all 5 of Vorobyev, Allison, Katchouck, Frost and Raddysh. If we're talking about the next couple of years wouldn't you wonder what happened to Gudas, MacDonald and Weise?

19 May 2018 18:49:23
Future lines could mean next season to hahahaha.

19 May 2018 22:01:58
I'll happily admit that I could have been more clear and more precise but I just find it weird that somebody would refer to this upcoming season's lines as "future lines. " I guess if we were still in the playoffs it would make sense but the fact that we are eliminated makes it unnecessary to add "future" to this upcoming season's lines. Besides, like I said before, given every other thing about those lines it'd be absolutely stupid to believe these lines were next season's lines.

As unrealistic as the trades are the lineup is a million times more unrealistic for next season, If you are a Flyers fan (I know you're not so I'm not shocked by your response) and you put even minimal thought in it you should realize that the earliest these lines could be is the 2020/ 21 season. If it's a non Flyers fan I would not assume that they know much about our prospects but I would at least expect them to use minimal thought and realize how unrealistic it is for a defensemen selected in the middle of the first round to make the team the following season meaning the earliest it could be is the 2019/ 20 season.

20 May 2018 00:08:58
Minimal thinking and use of logic would indicate that it isn't.

09 May 2018 23:41:37
Calgary - R.Andersson + 2nd Round Pick
Arizona - M.Domi
(Secondary scoring)

Calgary - A.Fox + D.Dube + S.Bennett + 2019 1st Round Pick
Philadelphia - W.Simmonds + 2018 1st Round Pick
(Calgary gets a big scoring RW at a good price also getting a 1st in this upcoming draft which they wanted)

Calgary - J.Valimaki
Buffalo - S.Reinhart
(Really good defensive prospect for calgarys biggest need which is a scoring RW)

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - W Simmonds
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Domi - M Jankowski - S Reinhart
M Ferland - C Lazar - T Brouwer

10 May 2018 00:05:05
Why would we trade for Reinhart just to put him on the 3rd line? Also no from Calgary on the Arizona and Philidelphia trades. To much going from Calgary on the Philly one and Domi doesn’t make sense to trade for, especially if it means we don’t have a second for the next 3 drafts.

10 May 2018 00:12:45
Quite the price for a 3rd line winger.

10 May 2018 03:35:18
1st Trade- no from Arizona Domi is a long term top 6 piece on a off year he still put up decent numbers

2nd Trade- no from Calargry that’s way to much.

3rd Trade- no from Buffalo Sam Rienhart is a long term top 6 piece who could potentially be slotted next to Eichel tremendous potential.

10 May 2018 22:59:17
Reinahart is a center. And nonetheless Buffalo laughs in your face. A second overall pick that maybe dint turn out to be the best choice but still a great 22 year old center who just came out of a strong 50 point season. he's right whereabout Mackinon was not too long ago. He can still become what he's projected to be. Not like a dylan Strome who really is looking like a bust but still has potential I guess.

09 May 2018 18:31:28
***If Minnesota wants to clear cap space for moves and Philadelphia can take a bad contract for next year if they don't make a splash in free agency:

Minnesota: 2018 PHI 2nd (50th overall)
Philadelphia: Tyler Ennis ($4.6MM until 2019), 2018 MIN 1st (24th overall)

I haven't read too much about what the new regime has in mind for Minnesota's strategy. I can't see them tearing it down as they have some good (not great) young pieces. I also don't think they'll make big free agent moves, but if they need cap space I hope the value is right.

09 May 2018 20:47:06
That’s to much to Dump 1 year of ennis especially considering they don’t need cap space. Want Parise? Lol.

09 May 2018 23:42:28
Not worth to trade up 26 spots espevially not out of the firdt rd to get rid of 1 year of an acutall decebt player. he's worth 2 million so ya he overapaid but for the one year they keep him.

09 May 2018 03:34:17
PHI: 1st Round Pick + Wayne Simmonds
CGY: S.Bennett + D.Dube + A.Fox + 2019 1st Round Pick

09 May 2018 05:40:09
Can’t see calgary pullin the trigger on that.

09 May 2018 14:44:47
I would certainly take it if I was Hextall but I doubt Calgary does it.

07 May 2018 23:08:57
Here's a modification of the trade posted earlier which I though was interesting:

To Calgary: W. Simmonds + 19th Overall 2018

To Philadelphia: A. Fox + M. Stone + A. Mangiapane + 2019 1st (Top 10 protected) + Z. Fischer

For Philly I took out the retention on Simmonds cause he's already on a good contract and took out the AHL prospect cause I felt like he didn't really fit into the Flames plans.

For the Flames I replaced Dube with Stone, Mangiapane and Fischer. Philidelphia already has stellar Center depth. Mangiapane is a fast young left winger that they're been looking for and Stone helps their right side d depth. Fischer is a long shot prospect but could maybe make the jump one day.

08 May 2018 02:33:15
I think its fair tbh. Good post.

08 May 2018 02:33:23
Good post xcing

08 May 2018 03:00:18
No from CGY. Fox and Mangiapane are excellent prospects. And why trade next years 1st for a mid 1st this year. Borrow from Peter to pay Paul. Gets you nowhere.

08 May 2018 04:55:11
Don’t see why Philly needs defenseman tbh they have a pretty good pipeline of dmen.

08 May 2018 14:17:46
McJesus: Philly is pretty stacked with left side, Ghost, Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, etc. but their right side is very thin with gudas as their only right handed d man and no stand out propsects coming in. Stone gives them another right handed d man that can slot in on the bottom pairing and Fox gives them a right handed top 4 d of the future hopefully.

SC4: Fox is a good prospect but he is a bit of a gamble, very boom or bust and with Calgary’s defensive depth and pipeline he may never get a good shot. Mangiapane is a decent prospect but is nothing special. He may make the team next year but with the addition of Simmonds he won’t be missed that much. Assuming Flames make the playoffs next year their pick will likely be around 19 so trading for a 2018 pick will give them a prospect that can step in a year sooner and given that 2018 is a very good draft they’ll probably get a bit of a better player than they would in 2019.

08 May 2018 14:18:29
We don't need Stone or any other defencemen. Ditto to bottom 6 prospects. I'd rather have a solid prospect with top 6 potential than several depth prospects, hence Dube. Simmonds got 24 goals last year despite needing multiple surgeries. He's a warrior and worth what Calgary would pay.

08 May 2018 14:20:07
SC4CGY: I didn't pull the idea of Calgary trading into the first round out of a hat. It was reported that they're looking to do it. Since Calgary would probably want to retain their current pieces to compete in 18/ 19, the best way is through trading a future 1st.

08 May 2018 20:04:29
Easy E
I’m aware of the Flames management looking to trade back into the 1st this year. But by trading next years 1st they’re potentially in the same position next year. Also I think you underestimate Fox value. And for just 1 year as Simmons contract is almost up. May a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if Simmons resigns.

09 May 2018 18:17:25
SC4CGY: you're correct that they'd lose next year's first rounder but they're not slated to pick until the 4th round this year. At least they have a third next year. Treliving likely wants some type of prospect in the pipe after the draft rather than deferring to next year. It's sound logic but the devil's in what it'll cost. Since Calgary will likely not trade away current NHLers, that only leaves picks and prospects, with next year's 1st being the most likely casualty.

09 May 2018 22:43:34
To answer you SC4CGY, maybe they're a prospecg they really like in this draft and want him in the pipeline. So for them a firdt this year is more valuable in that contexte.

 
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