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08 Dec 2018 21:07:10
Mtl: Alzner, Houde, 3rd 2019

Chi: Keith

07 Dec 2018 20:31:52
Blackhawks: Keith

Mtl: Azlner,Mete

Do Chicago consider?

07 Dec 2018 21:04:30
No from mtl.

07 Dec 2018 23:10:13
Hard to believe it was just less than two years ago Keith came 4th in Norris trophy voting. Putting up pretty respectable numbers this year. Montreal would love to ditch Alzner’s contract, and they may have to compensate someone to do it. But they aren’t going to want old man Keith coming in return I’m sure.

It’s an interesting proposal. There’s some merit to it. Keith is still better than Alzner. At least he would be playing. In terms of actual salary payable, Keith’s co tract is very reasonable, and Montreal has the cap space they can afford Keith’s cap hit for at least the next few years anyway. Chicago gets a younger player in Mete to help with their own rebuild, and Alzner’s cap hit is smaller than Keith’s, so helps them free up a bit of cap space themselves.

Maybe if Keith was a little younger this proposal would have a bit more legs to it. But at his age and with a contract taking him until he’s 41, Keith appears to be on a rapid decline, and in a couple years, Montreal may just find themselves in a similar situation with Keith as they are currently with Alzner.

08 Dec 2018 13:56:43
does chicago consider? hell yes they jump on that and run. does montreal consider it though. sure they want to get rid of alzner and they would get an upgrade on him to keith, but would they really want to give up mete to do so?

07 Dec 2018 19:48:22
Chicago Trades
Seabrook

Toronto Trades
Zaitsev
Timashov (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019

Before anyone brings up Cap the difference is 2,375.000 between Seabrook and Zaitsev so not a huge difference between the 2.

Hawks are truly in a rebuild and this is how you start that process.

Seabrook will address a huge need on Defence for the Leafs.

Thoughts?

07 Dec 2018 20:14:00
This was a no before I even read who the leafs were giving up. I really like seabrook and have a ton of respect for the way he played the game, but the game is passing him by right now. Speed kills and he just doesn’t have it. Add that contract in and no way would I want him coming to Toronto.

07 Dec 2018 20:48:59
So basically, Seabrook is worth a 1st more than Parayko

pinny, what goes through your mind buddy.

07 Dec 2018 23:21:29
Wow. For Chicago this might work. They would be replacing one boat anchor contract with a smaller boat anchor contract. For once something not totally slanted in the Leafs favour. Not sure why Toronto would want to do it though.

Are you not feeling well Pinball? You're off your game a bit on this one.

01 Dec 2018 00:06:08
Chicago: Patrick Kane, Corey Crawford
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky, Alex Wennberg, Pierre-Luc Dubois

01 Dec 2018 03:48:28
Obviously all the players mentioned here are outstanding. Each and every single one of these guys. Some of them are/ were the best in the world at their position. Dubois is looking more and more like he will be an elite talent at his position, and in my opinion, is the reason Columbus doesn’t make this trade. Dubois is on the rise, while Kane is on decline. That $10.5M that Kane makes May also be a big deterrent for Columbus.

29 Nov 2018 21:11:41
Chicago: Keith +2nd
toronto: Gardiner, Kapenen, 3rd

Chicago: Anisimov
NJD: 3rd, 5th

Chicago: Crawford+ 3rd
Philly: Hart +2nd

Chicago: Seabrook (50% Retained)
Boston: Vladar + 2nd.

29 Nov 2018 23:23:25
Why is Philly giving the better pick with Hart?!

30 Nov 2018 00:04:04
Toronto shouldn't take Keith contract, and Kapanen is at an all time high in value.

New Jersey may do that, but they have decently good centre depth (Hischier/ Zajac/ McLeod/ Zacha/ / Boyle) and ZAjac is a huge contract altogether, probably don't want Anisimov as well.

Philly is bankinh on Hart, i don't think they take a gamble on an older goalie for him.

And idk about the last one. Seabrook at 50 is decent imo.

30 Nov 2018 00:48:29
Interesting you bringing up Keith what with the discussion about Pietrangelo below. Less than 2 years ago Keith came 4th in Norris trophy voting. Now nobody believes he is anywhere near top 50 even and that once sweet contract of his is a boat anchor. It just shows how fast a player can fall down the rankings and deteriorate in performance. Another great example is Karlsson. Once considered the best defenseman in the world not long ago, Karlsson should not be taken seriously as a top 10 defender in the NHL anymore.

I guess age eventually captures up with everyone.

29 Nov 2018 19:21:21
Winnipeg: Matthieu Perreault, 3rd round pick
Chicago: Duncan Keith, Chicago retains 1.54 of Keith's salary

Duncan goes home to Winnipeg.

29 Nov 2018 21:02:50
no way. keith could get way more than perreault and a 3rd. especially with salary retained.

29 Nov 2018 21:16:58
The trade is fair but the Jets say no because Keith has too long a term left for a 35 year old on the down slope of a great career.

29 Nov 2018 21:59:13
No from the Jets. They wouldn't want any part of Meeting Keith's contract.

28 Nov 2018 20:27:49
Chicago: anisimov
Washington: 3rd round pick

Chicago: Seabrook (25% Retained)
ottawa: Wolanin or Gagne

Chicago: Crawford + 2020 2nd
Buffalo: Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen.

28 Nov 2018 20:54:26
Washington absolutely cannot afford the Anisimov trade without losing salary.

Ottawa re-building seems like a strange destination to send an aging and deteriorating Seabrook.


Buffalo already has 32 year old Hutton. They may be looking to replace him, but not with Crawford, who would make for very expensive backup, or 1b tandem.

28 Nov 2018 22:22:33
what would you suggest for alternate destinations for anisimov and seabrook then? and i think the buffalo deal is fair, maybe send back hutton for another piece as well?

28 Nov 2018 23:19:57
Think anisimov would be a good fit in Washington, but ya, they only projected have a few hundred thousand dollars at the deadline. Always thought Edmonton would be a good spot Seabrook. But that would probably mean probably 50% retention. he's worth more than 3.5mil now but not when he's 38-39-40, he's already lost a step so its going to be ugly in a few years, never mind 5-6 years.

29 Nov 2018 00:50:39
Hutton and Ullmark are a huge reason for Buffalo success right now. Not a chance they trade one right now.

29 Nov 2018 02:35:47
Seabrook is untradable unless it’s for Lucic.

29 Nov 2018 03:57:24
Anisimov to New Jersey Devils for 3rd round pick; salary Dump and devils have cap room.

29 Nov 2018 04:45:33
Forget the untradable Seabrook for now and consider Duncan Keith while there is a chance to move him.

28 Nov 2018 18:23:30
Toronto: William Nylander
Chicago: Connor Murphy, Alex Fortin, Dennis Gilbert

28 Nov 2018 20:17:02
Salary cap. As much as i'd love to have Willy in chicago, the cost to sign him would be too much without taking a salary back.

28 Nov 2018 21:10:44
William Nylander : 4 yrs at 7 million
Connor murphy : 4 yrs at 3.85 plus fortin and Gilbert is about 5.6 million.
Gives Toronto 1.4 extra cap space for marner and matthews.
Chicago loses 1.4 of 3.2 cap space leaving 1.8 approx.

Chicago trades or dumps Kruger, manning, rutta, kunitz for 8.28 million plus the 1.8 for over 10 million for next year.

No cap issues here so far. Biggest issue is Toronto might want bigger names or better prospects.

28 Nov 2018 21:38:11
so DaKeGa, you're saying we'd need to essentially trade out 7 players overall, to be able to resign one player long term, and from what i've read and heard online willy is looking for 8+. pretty sure if we were looking at 6-7 the deal would be done by now.

28 Nov 2018 21:51:12
It’s just that easy to trade or dump $9 mill worth of dead weight? Lol if that’s the case, no team ever has cap problems.

28 Nov 2018 22:22:38
3 players and 1.4 cap space lands a top line winger for toews, saad line.
Kunitz won't be resigned at 40 years old next year and is only there to help mentor rookies and achieve 1000 games played. 1 million will get any player whom will fill his role on 4th line.

Kruger 2.78 next year will not be resigned opening up cap space for another player whom can be signed at 1 million to fill his role.
Rutta will not be resigned either and a Boqvist, Raddysh, or Dahlstrom can step up and take his place.

Manning can be traded for a draft pick or something also.
Chicago does not need any of these week links and all can be replaced by young bodies whom can play for a total of less than 4 million opposed to the 8.28 these bodies are signed for. With a 1.8 cap space plus 8.28 equals 10, sign 3rd, 4th liners for less than 5 of that and you still have 5 plus million for debrincat to sign or get a defensive defenseman.

That is hardly an issue to do for the blackhawks in the off season. Sikura, Highmore, Boqvist, and Dahlstrom are already in the system to replace these bodies if needed.

28 Nov 2018 22:38:35
Next Season;
Toews, Saad, Nylander
Strome, Kane, Debrincat
Sikura, Kahun, Perlini
Kampf, Johnson, Martinsen
Hayden spare

Keith, Boqvist
Seabrook, Jokiharu
Forsling, Dahlstrom
Davidson spare

Still leaves Anisimov to trade in offseason. Not an unthinkable transition.

29 Nov 2018 21:26:52
wtf are those lines? if anything i'd have this for that line up
Saad-toews-nylander
perlini-debrincat-kane
Kahun-Strome-Kampf
Sikura-Hayden-Martinsen

Keith-boqvist
Seabrook-jokiharu
Forsling-Davidson

Crawford
Forsberg.

26 Nov 2018 21:50:44
Chicago Trades
Seabrook

Toronto Trades
Zaitsev
4th Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020

Thoughts?

26 Nov 2018 23:03:03
Is zaitsev ever going to be as good as seabrook was in his prime? Probably not. But 5 more years of a 33 year old decking asset at $6.8 mill or 5 more years of a 26 year old steady player at $4.5mill?! Easy no from leafs. I was a huge fan of seabrook but hawks wouldn’t have to pay us to take him at this point. That contract is about as big of anchor as there is in the league today.

26 Nov 2018 23:48:15
Hell yes from chicago, i'd take that deal in a heartbeat. but why would toronto do this?

27 Nov 2018 02:19:15
Seabrook is still better than Zaitsev. Not sure I can make that same statement in five years.

Big changes coming to Chicago. Wouldn’t surprise me they start trading out pieces of their dynasty. Maybe even a couple hof pieces (Seabrook might make it) . The Schmaltz trade is just a taste I’m sure.

27 Nov 2018 04:19:38
Ya, Chicago would have to include probably a couple 1sts for anyone to take that contract. Chicago's my favorite team and think his contract is nearly unmovable. Once in a while it happens so never say never I guess.

24 Nov 2018 07:52:35
Mtl: Hudon + scherbak

Chi: Saad.

24 Nov 2018 22:26:00
If I am mtl I take this and run in my opinion. Saad is a good player and is not over paid if he plays how he can play.

22 Nov 2018 16:46:03
Chicago Blackhawks -
• (LW) Brandon Saad
• (D) Connor Murphy

Ottawa Senators -
• (D) Cody Ceci
• (C) Matt Duchene

Edmonton Oilers -
• (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi
• (D) Ethan Bear
• (2019) First Round Pick

BREAKDOWN:

Oilers - Brandon Saad, Cody Ceci
Sens - Connor Murphy, First Round Pick
Hawks - Ethan Bear, Jesse Puljujärvi, Matt Duchene


Just trying out a few 3 ways

22 Nov 2018 18:17:55
No from Ottawa for sure.

Duchene>1st
Ceci>Murphy

I'm assuming that Edmonton would get better from this trade and the 1st wouldn't be a lottery pick.

22 Nov 2018 18:55:26
Billy you're really off all the time cap wise. This can't happen on the Oilers side with that much $ coming in and not much going out.
I don't think they would consider those young assets for those two players anyways.
I really like the idea of bringing in Duchene. He would be a good fit with Drai or McDavid IMO. Ty and make room in the off season to sign him as a ufa. Having a great season so far. 5th in points? He's going to get paid nicely by someone. Stone, Panarin, Skinner also UFAs having great starts.

23 Nov 2018 08:22:16
You're a Hawks fan, eh?

23 Nov 2018 12:04:19
from a blackhawks perspective, hell yeah we'll take it
from ottawa perspective, would probably be able to get more for duchene elsewhere let lone duchene and ceci.
from edmonton perspective, saad would look good next to mcdavid but i don't think ceci is the defenseman they need as much as i like him.

23 Nov 2018 12:29:14
Triplets that’s what I was thinking. To me it looks like both Ottawa and Edmonton get screwed hard.

23 Nov 2018 23:44:35
Ottawa would laugh in your face.

Fyi Ottawa and Duchene have been talking a new contract for the last 2 weeks, he's staying put, while Ceci is on block.

22 Nov 2018 10:35:01
Mtl: Primeau

Chi: Saad

Gives Chicago a good goalie prospect and give mtl another tthreat who needs a change of scenary. Imo Saad still has 60+ point potential and is just 26

21 Nov 2018 22:51:05
Habs: Shaw, 2rd pick 2019

Chi: Saad

Mtl pays a cheap price imo for a player of Saads caliber who's only 26 year old. IMO he's worth more but that's better then anything that has been offered so far. Shaw also has only 1 point less this year in 4 less games I believe.

21 Nov 2018 23:31:26
So shaw is much cheaper and performing better and we still add a pick.? Why so the hawks can draft another debrincat? Nah let's just keep shaw and see what happens.

22 Nov 2018 10:34:39
Shaw = a 30 point player

Saad = Was traded for Panarin for a reason, didn't have that value he had at the time but he's still a good player and only 26. Shaw is a bottom 6 player while Saad is top 6 and has first line potential when he plays at his best.

22 Nov 2018 12:17:40
Saad has not been producing like a top line player in a long time eventhough he's had plenty of oppurtunity on a pretty good top line in Chicago. Forgive me if I'm skeptical.

23 Nov 2018 02:16:52
Saad should be a 30+ goal man every year. seems like he got paid. and now he is skates for contract obligations.

23 Nov 2018 05:35:24
Chicago is stuck with Saad, much like Ouler’s Are stuck without Lucic. I’m sure they could pay someone to take those two duds off their hands, but not many teams can afford their cap hits, and the price for taking them on may be higher than Chicago or Edmonton wants to give.

Saad sucks.

21 Nov 2018 16:42:42
Chicago Trades
Saad

Toronto Trades
Ennis

Similar to the Hagelin for Pearson Trade as Chicago gets rid of Saad's Contract, yes Saad makes 6mill for the next 2 Seasons and could make it an issue Cap wise for the Leafs but let's give this year's Team every opportunity to win this year, Saad on the LWing with Matthews and Nylander(assuming Nylander resigns) gives the Leafs a super forward group and still enough Cap Space this year to improve the Defense if need be.

Thoughts?

21 nov 2018 18:03:59
stop.
taking on saad like this makes negative sensezl. fifth time u posted this. stop.

21 Nov 2018 18:21:11
Lol. Pinball. you seem to beat things to death. for awhile it was Panarin, now Saad.
And really, ya don't need Saad.

21 Nov 2018 18:55:13
Saad sent have a ton of value but it's not negative I'd that he has. he's still worth a second at least even with that contract imo.

21 Nov 2018 19:33:39
@boomboom
nah i didn't mean ‘negative value’. fat-fingered a bunch on my part, lol. i meant this trade makes ‘negative sense’ lol. chicago will want something back for saad better than ennis and toronto doesn't need the cap.

Lose-lose trade.

21 Nov 2018 19:45:54
I think everyone is saying cap wise to the leafs it is a negative boob boom. Does he ever beat things to death though Sosa, lol.

21 Nov 2018 21:25:16
Michael Augello has a suggestion of Saad to the leafs but it would have to include Boqvist. So leafs are willing to pay Nylander $6.5 or whatever, this gets them a winger who needs a change of scenery, but brings a physicality we lack and hopefully can find his offense again. He makes $6 mill for 2 more years, and we would get a top prospect Dman in the deal.

I could live with that. I’d rather a Dman that’s going to help us try to win a cup this year than a guy a cpl years away, but value is value. Maybe saad helps us win a cup and you acquire a stop gap Dman atvthe deadline. A proven veteran that can just be solid and eat minutes.

21 Nov 2018 22:50:09
Top Shelf, my coment wasnt to you it was to Pinballs proposal. Since he proposed Saad for a player with negative value (Ennis) he's sugesting Saad also has negative value no?

22 Nov 2018 00:16:12
@BoomBoom, or he saw Ennis score 2 highlight reel goals in the last 4-5 games and thinks he has lots of value?! 🤷‍♂️ lol.

22 Nov 2018 01:09:53
Oh, my bad boomboom, haha. Yeah, he's kinda suggesting that. Saad isntnegative value, but has minimal value imo (can be had for prbably a 3rd+minor add) .

20 Nov 2018 16:31:37
Chicago Trades
Saad

Toronto Trades
Ennis
Timashov(AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019

Thoughts?

20 Nov 2018 16:57:45
Do you not understand the concept of a salary cap, or do you just willfully ignore that it exists?

20 Nov 2018 17:31:35
I usually skip past posts that have leafs taking cap dumps lol makes no sense. We did that for a few years when all our best players made peanuts. Now let that be someone else’s plan.

20 Nov 2018 17:33:10
Cap dump is harsh, don’t really mean that, saad is still a decent piece, just overpaid. That’s what I meant. Like when we took Grabner at the time and brooks laich. They were good, not great players, and just not earning their wage.

18 Nov 2018 22:13:39
Chicago Trades
Saad
DeBrincat
Seabrook

Toronto Trades
WNylander
Leivo
Hainsey
Horton(LTIR)

Thoughts?

18 Nov 2018 23:11:32
That would be a pretty easy no thanks from Chicago.

18 Nov 2018 23:26:19
Pinball, are you trying to start a fight with the Leaf fans? Always love reading your proposals. You drive a hard bargain. We get DeBrincat for taking Seabrook and Saad’s deadweight contracts? If I thought for even one second that this was financially possible, I would have to wonder if either team would be willing to do it?

It’s an interesting proposal you floated here. How much extra salary would a team be willing to take on in the form of a dump to get DeBrincat? I’m sure the answer varies from team to team.

I don’t think Leafs are financially capable of helping out Chicago much with their cap problems. We have enough of our own.

18 Nov 2018 23:43:08
That’s a lot of cap space for the leafs to take on to get debincrat. Does deboncrat also play the wing? Doesn’t really matter still not worth taking on seabrooks contract. if leafs were getting seabrook from 4 years ago I’d be all over it but not at this point in his career and with his contract. Unless leafs could trade nylander for a Trouba or a Slavin/ Pesce type defenceman young enough to fit with their core and not over paid their better off signing nylander instead of taking back 13 million in cap space. Hortons contract means nothing to the leafs as they can afford it and it doesn’t affect their cap situation.

19 Nov 2018 01:42:09
Nylander>>Debrincat

People tend to forget Nylander has potential to be a PPG player he should fetch something to what Boston got for Kessel.

19 Nov 2018 06:17:24
vbbb i would say debrincat and nylander are very similar in value, no way leafs get two early firsts and a second for nylander, you're delusional.

19 Nov 2018 08:33:48
Okay so where does DeBrincat NOT have ppg potential, VB?

19 Nov 2018 08:41:38
In all honesty people I believe even if Nylander isn't signed they don't Trade him, you will never get the value back no matter what you think you can get, in a perfect world if I am Trading Nylander I want a player of equal value like Dumba out of Minnesota, but they aren't doing that, I post fun ideas on here, I actually like Saad as a shotgun Winger for Matthews but at the right price, I posted a Leivo plus Draft Picks for Saad and would do that if Chicago took back 2mill each year left on his 3yr Contract at 6mill a year.

19 Nov 2018 11:48:35
Debrincat is good but you’re also taking back an anchor of a contract in Seabrook which would cause the leafs to have to let Mathews walk ( Trade ) and would cause trouble resigning Marner. Taking back Seabrook would mean-two of Mathews, Marner, Tavares and Nylander would have to go.

This destroys the leafs cap situation. Turns them from a contender to a bottom 5 team. Adding 12 million to an already strapped cap team.

20 Nov 2018 04:38:44
No for both Toronto and Chicago. Would not work for either team. Toronto cannot take on them salaries and Chicago cannot lose 2 top 6 forwards for 1 and take on an older Hainsey with the only gain to abolish Seabrook's contract. Wrong pieces for both teams.

20 Nov 2018 05:04:33
Nylander and holl for Kahun, Murphy, Gustaffson and a 2019 4th round pick is the best deal Toronto will get from Chicago and all the hawks can give up of value.

17 Nov 2018 17:47:14
Chicago Trades
Saad

Toronto Trades
Leivo
4th Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020

Hawks are in my view on the cusp of a rebuild and even though Saad is still in his prime it takes off 6mill in Cap Space.

Thoughts?

17 Nov 2018 17:56:27
No this would hurt the leaf with the cap.

17 Nov 2018 19:29:59
You honestly want to add Saad and his $6M with the cap problems the Leafs have now with Nylander, Mathews and Marner?

17 Nov 2018 20:03:41
We already have a lot better younger winger that we don’t want to pay more than $6.5. Why give assets (o realize not a lot) to take someone else’s $6 mill winger?

17 Nov 2018 20:11:41
Would love it. then they may not have enough money to keep greedy Mathews. Bring in one crappy American. send the other packing.

17 Nov 2018 22:18:15
Lol greedy Matthews? No one even knows what his ask will be.

17 Nov 2018 23:12:13
Now he’s greedy too Sosa? Are you drinking again? You’d love him on your team.

18 Nov 2018 00:15:42
There’s so many better players we can be receiving over Saad for the same price. Why Saad? If we are going to try taking advantage of someone else’s financial situation, we should be taking their young guys they can’t afford to give raises to. Not an overpaid and aging veteran.

18 Nov 2018 00:42:50
Lol. No just trying to fire everyone up lol.

18 Nov 2018 10:14:22
Sosa i'm worried about your drinking problem.

18 Nov 2018 13:22:08
Not enough for saad in my opinion, also don't think it would fit in the leaf's salary cap.

18 Nov 2018 16:32:05
Thanks for your concern BoomBoom.

14 Nov 2018 02:17:25
Spin on the Nylander sweepstakes.

Toronto Trades: William Nylander (RW [Extension] - 7.5 Million x 7 Years) + Josh Leivo (LW - 0.675 Million x 1 Year) + Eamon McAdam (G - 0.925 Million x 1 Year) + Justin Holl (RD - 0.625 Million x 2 Years) + 2019 3rd Round Pick.

Chicago Trades: Henri Jokiharju (RD - 0.925 Million x 3 Years) + Brandon Saad (LW - 6.00 Million x 3 Years) + John Hayden (RW - 0.750 Million x 2 Years) + Jan Ruuta (RD - 2.25 Million x 1 Year) .

Chicago is on an eight game losing streak. They just fired one of the best coaches in franchise history, and still are losing. Bowman may need to make a last ditch effort to save the team. Saad is definitely in the doghouse in Chicago and could use a change of scenery. His cap makes him less valuable, however, he could rebound making what Ny SHOULD make in Toronto. Jokiharju is the big piece, a young RHD who is playing well on a bad team. However, if Chicago wants to bring in a stud like Ny, either Boqvist or Joki is going the other way. Hayden is a grinder who could be nice in Toronto’s bottom six, and Rutta could help take some pressure of Hainsey every game.

As for Chicago, they acquire a stud first line winger to compliment Toews, or a solid 2C to compliment Patrick Kane. He could be a 60-70 point guy easily, and could give some more offensive depth to Chicagos top heavy team. Replacing Saad with Nylander is a big upgrade, despite the downgrade on defence. Leivo and Holl are decent enough depth guys, and the 3rd is good for Rutta.

Toronto Healthy Lineup:
Brandon Saad - Auston Matthews - Kasperi Kapanen
Zach Hyman - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown/ Tyler Ennis
Andreas Johnsson - Par Lindholm - John Hayden

Morgan Rielly - Ron Hainsey/ Jan Rutta
Jake Gardiner - Henri Jokiharju
Travis Dermott - Nikita Zaitsev
*Igor Ozhiagnov



Chicago Healthy Lineup:
Alexandre Fortin - Jonathan Toews - William Nylander
Alex DeBrincat - Nick Schmaltz - Patrick Kane
Josh Leivo - Artem Anisimov - Dominik Kahun
Chris Kunitz - David Kampf - Luke Johnson

Duncan Keith - Brent Seabrook
Erik Gustafsson - Connor Murphy
Brandon Manning - Gustav Forsling.

14 Nov 2018 04:45:17
I like how you targeted Chicago here. Big changes coming there for sure. You know what else I really like is how you always include salaries beside each player. Makes it so much easier to assess your posts. I always enjoy reading your posts because they are so well thought out.

My take in this trade is that Saad’s contract is a real boat anchor. I would be loathe to take that on if I was Leafs management. If we do Chicago that favor, then Jokiharju or Boqvist would have to be incuded to make this trade a reality.

I don’t like the idea of Saad as the cap dump to make salaries work, but love the idea of snagging Boqvist or Jokiharju. I’m not sure Chicago is looking at dumping their young stars yet. More likely an aging Keith or Seabrook get traded to cap floor team first. But if this proposal was floated, Leafs would have to seriously consider it I would think.

14 Nov 2018 17:45:15
No way Chicago sells the future to get rid if sadd, he's outta quenvilles doghouse so expect him to start producing, of course leafs would consider, same production sadd- nylander for cheaper, plus a huge upgrade on the garbage coming back, no brainer for leafs.

14 Nov 2018 21:24:36
nope. boqvist and jokiharju are going to be untouchables in chicago.

17 Oct 2018 20:50:07
Chi: Saad

Van: Eriksson (retain 1million), 2nd round pick 2020

Maybe Chicago wants this as Eriksson is still an NHL player and canucks Retain a bit as he hasn’t more years left and then canucks get a guy who could use a change in scenery and add a 2nd to make up a difference in age and skill.

18 Oct 2018 00:14:50
Lol no. Chicago really really doesn’t want that.

17 Oct 2018 00:06:22
Straight-Up Hockey Trade:

New York Rangers Trade: Kevin Shattenkirk (6.300 Million x 3 Years: Retention 4.5% Salary)
Chicago Blackhawks Trade: Brandon Saad (6.000 Million x 3 Years)

Salary with the retention is equal. 6.3 in for CHI, 6 in for NYR + 0.3 for retention.

Both players haven't thrived in an ideal location, both have been healthy scratches and need fresh starts. Chicago could use a fast, puck-moving dman like Shattenkirk, and could be good as a mobile partner for Seabrook. New York could use additional forward depth if they decide to purge their forward core at the deadline [Kreider, Vesey, Hayes, Zucc, etc. ], and a bigger, younger guy in Saad could be helpful.

Saads youth compared to Shattys compensates for the salary retention by NY imo.

 
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