05 Jul 2018 18:02:13
Sources are confident that Karlsson is going to TB, yikes! The Golden State Lightning i guess but they have cap troubles as well.

• (C) Brayden Point
• (D) Mikhail Sergachev
• (C) Tyler Johnson
• (D) Erik Karlsson

• (RW) Ryan Callahan
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (2019) 6th-Round Pick

• (D) Braydon Coburn
• (2019) 7th-Round Pick

TB Lightning free up 14,500,000M in cap space but also already have 4.45M.

TB gains 18,950,000M to resign Karlsson at probably 11M x 7YR (same as Doughty) and also make more signings.

Tampa Signs - Anthony Duclair (1.75M x 2YR), Kris Versteeg (1.5M x 1YR)

Alex Killorn - Steven Stamkos - Nikita Kucherov
Ondrej Palat - Carter Verhaeghe - Anthony Duclair
JT Miller - Anthony Cirelli - Kris Versteeg
Cedric Paquette - Andy Andreoff - Yanni Gourde

Victor Hedman - Erik Karlsson
Ryan McDonaugh - Dan Girardi
Andrej Sustr - Anton Stralman

1.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 18:21:43
What about kucherov next year?

2.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 18:23:55
Team looks worse IMO. Be smarter for them to keep Point over Karlsson.

3.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 18:33:44
It’d be Point for Karlsson+.

4.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 18:23:55
Team looks worse IMO. Be smarter for them to keep Point over Karlsson.

5.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 18:33:44
It’d be Point for Karlsson+.

6.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 20:08:28
Under no circumstances will Point and Sergachev both be traded for Karlsson. If I am wrong I will happily eat crow afterwards, but he's just not worth both of them IMO. That's lunacy.

7.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 20:13:13
Scratch sustr, he signed with Anaheim

8.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 21:21:29
So Anaheim can now scratch suster.

9.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 02:23:56
Karlsson is number 3 player in the world number 1 defenceman plus he has played side by side with hedman in the past. of course he's worth sergachev + point + 2 1sts. anyone who honestly thinks otherwise must have been born under a rock and has a few screws loose. point has 2 decent seasons under his belt and sergachev had a great rookie season playing with the likes of hedman kucherov and stamkos who are 3 of the best players in the game, of course he's going to look good in most people's eyes. that still don't put either of their individual values anywhere close to karlssons full value. combined value is close but still not enough. add the late 1st and the value is mostly there. now being it would be an in division trade they'd have to over pay a bit so another late 1st the following year would do the trick.

10.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 11:04:18
That’s a great offer for Karlsson imo.

11.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 11:07:50
Hold on did vb just say Point for Karlsson +.

12.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 13:32:24
vb is a sens hater. Go read his previous posts.

13.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 13:58:27
I did he’ll be traded on Pennies on the dollar and there GM will be fired shortly after the trade because fans will lose it.

14.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 14:34:57
Vbbvbb if Dorian is dumb enough to do any less than what's listed in this proposal then I do agree on the part that he will be fired. either that of fans start a riot.

15.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 16:15:21
This will be a worse return then Thornton got. There is no way the senator get a game changer back in any trade they’re in a bad position.

16.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 18:21:58
@Rambo: Sens has to add the higher pick (5th rnd) to Hoffman to get boedker, a C prospect and a 6th rounder after you guaranteed he would get a top 10 pick and a top prospect.

So now that you say Point, Sergachev and two 1st rounders, I will equate that to one good prospect (Foote), a first rounder, and a conditional pick (maybe 1st)

17.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 18:46:02
Somewhere between Rambo's delusional Sergachev, Point and 2 First round picks proposal, and VB's unlikely prediction of Ottawa not getting a gamer changer back lies Karlsson's true value.

If Karlsson has his heart set on playing in Tampa, and that is the only team with which he is willing to extend with, it obviously limits the bidding war for his services. Ottawa could still trade him to another team for just this year, which would open the bidding to more teams, but they would be trading a Karlsson with one year left on his contract vs. trading an extended Karlsson (for which teams would obviously be willing to trade more for) . Clearly a lot of moving parts.

Rambo also stated in a post above that Ottawa did not have to trade Karlsson "because he has a year left on his contract. " I'm not sure what he means by that (he probably doesn't either) as if Ottawa wants to get anything for Karlsson he must be traded as it is pretty clear he will not be resigning in Ottawa. Personally, I think Ottawa would be foolish to let this drag on into the season as not only will it be a gigantic distraction, they also risk Karlsson injuring himself at which point no one would trade for him, and he would walk next summer as a UFA.

If he goes to Tampa I think that is a positive for Ottawa as Tampa will not be able to take on Ryan's contract, so Karlsson's return will not be further diminshed by Cheap Uncle Eugene stapling a massive cap dump to the trade.

Time will tell (hopefully sooner than later) .

18.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 19:11:45
Apologies -- "Karlsson injuring himself" as i wrote above sounds like I meant Karlsson should be on suicide watch or something. That was NOT my intention and poorly worded. I simply meant that allowing Karlsson to play would be running the risk of him suffering a season-ending injury, closing the door on a possible trade before he walks as a UFA next summer.

19.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 20:16:11
Well said Unsportsmanlike and Unbiased Jim I like that offer.

20.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 21:48:57
@Unsportsmanlike: always seem to agree exactly with you. Always well expressed logic.