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23 Jan 2021 18:17:31
Ottawa: Logan Brown, Colin White, 3rd
Florida: Aleksander Barkov, Yandle.


1.) 23 Jan 2021 18:36:09
Is this a joke?

2.) 23 Jan 2021 19:27:08
Maybe that gets an autographed stick from Barkov, but definitely not Barkov himself.

3.) 24 Jan 2021 13:02:26
Barkov would require a legit true top 6 forward or top 2 dman plus a package of picks and prospects just to start talking. White doesn’t even get Ottawa a conversation.

Start with chabot or Stutzle

No one else on that roster moves the needle


That’s 28 centres that this package can’t come close to getting.

4.) 24 Jan 2021 13:33:35
Kane not a centre.



10 Jan 2021 20:11:34
Ottawa: Logan brown, Connor brown, Josh brown
LA: Lizzotte, Kaliev

LV: Patrick brown
LA: 6th round in 2022

LA can have all the browns (Along with dustin which they already have, ottawa can have 2 young-ish players with bright futures.


1.) 12 Jan 2021 18:10:11
Should add Colin White as well, so its not a color thing. Lol.



06 Jan 2021 19:28:13
Winnipeg: Laine, Roslovic, 2nd or 3rd
columbus, Dubois, savard, Gavrikov.


1.) 06 Jan 2021 20:01:28
Savard as a 30 year old rental wouldn't hold much value to Winnipeg, and Gavrikov as a bottom pairing LD isn't anything Winnipeg needs. Columbus would need a better add to Dubois if they want Laine and Roslovic.

2.) 06 Jan 2021 20:27:18
The Jets couldn't fit this trade into their cap. The Jets take on $12 mil while Columbus adds Laines $6.75 mil. and maybe Roslovic's $1.5 mil.

3.) 06 Jan 2021 21:27:03
Value wise Laine and Scheifele for Dubois and Savard would be more like it.

But that'll never happen. Just the most obvious reasons why not:

1. There's no way Columbus trades Dubois unless they're getting a 1st line center back. In Winnipeg that's Scheifele.
2 Winnipeg doesn't want to trade Scheifele.
3. Neither Laine or Scheifele are the elite players Winnipeg fans like to think they are.
4. Laine doesn't have much value in Tortorella's defense first system and Laine wouldn't want to play in that system anyhow.

Going back to the original proposal. A two way first line center has far more value than a one dimensional winger who's only good on offense. That's without even taking into consideration Dubois' contract situation is far better too! In addition Columbus certainly won't be trading Gavrikov for a bottom six forward. It'd take a lot more than that to get him.

4.) 07 Jan 2021 03:29:09
Absolutely terrible for Columbus.



18 Apr 2020 16:43:14
senators offseason:
resign: duclair. tierney, peca, brown, hawryluk, sabourin, balcers, englund, boroweicki
let walk: boedker, paul.
retire: Hainsey, anderson
sign: Byfuglien
Trade: Logan Brown to vegas for holden and a 3rd.


1.) 19 Apr 2020 16:02:32
Looks like you have the Senators off season all planned out. Lol. When you look at the list of signings they have to do, it is a lot of work ahead of them. Especially knowing they are going to ice another losing team. I don't feel envious for the Senators right now at all.

2.) 19 Apr 2020 19:01:37
Buff will sign with a contender. he's 35 and won't want to rebuild.

3.) 09 May 2020 18:04:57
I agree with most of that but 2 things I do disagree with.

Let Boro walk, and if Logan brown is traded sens would want more than than from a team like vegas. I'd say deal him to San Jose for a 1st in 2021, 2022, or 2023, 2nd in 2022, and a conditional 3rd in 2023 (if the 1st acquired becomes lottery pick them Ottawa don't get the 3rd)

Just like brown is big young and full of potential but carries some risk, he still carries a lot of value, moving him for future picks which are also unknown risk factors does make a lot of sense for both teams. Change of scenery could do brown some good but Ottawa will want something with similar potential they saw in brown. The 1st could go either way as San Jose could have another bad season or 2, or with the guys they still have, they could have a bounce back year making their 1st a late pick and gaining a valuable asset to boot.

As for big buf, I hate to say it but I agree with hand guy there, can't see him in Ottawa.



17 Mar 2020 20:24:03
chicago: Saad, entwistle, krys 2nd round pick
ottawa: Jaros, reilly + 3rd.

close? ottawa has some cap space, gains a couple prospects and a pick. chicago gets rid of saad contract.


1.) 18 Mar 2020 03:05:36
Honestly not bad. Saad is only 27 but going to ottawa his numbers will drop. I think it's worth it compensation wise, pretty good proposal!

2.) 18 Mar 2020 16:36:54
I could see something like this happening, not bad imo.

3.) 19 Mar 2020 13:49:29
Why would cheapskates Ottawa ever consider taking on old man saad and his contract? They don't even want to pay their own good players.

4.) 19 Mar 2020 19:36:24
st louis fan. old man saad? he's only 27, and i'm pretty sure his deal is only for another year if i remember correctly.

mike. i could see his numbers dropping in ottawa too, but then again look at guys like duclair and namestnikov who went there and their numbers were great this year.

5.) 20 Mar 2020 17:45:49
And how old is the team they are wanting to build around? Why would Ottawa want a 27 year old free agent? If you want to dump old overpaid free agents you got to pay. It cost Leafs a 1st to dump Marleau. Saad is a bit better but Ottawa still won't want him.

6.) 23 Mar 2020 04:34:58
St Louis Fan. saad is 27 and in the prime of his career. his contract is high sure but it's not like he's in his twilight years like marleau is. saad still has at least 5-6 years of good hockey left in him. a change of scenery could be all he needs.

7.) 28 Mar 2020 10:55:45
Are you a used car salesman? Because that's what you're trying to do. Sell me a used hockey player. Ottawa is only in the market for shiny new model hockey players.

8.) 30 Mar 2020 19:25:52
Confirmed @St. LouisFan is a teenage boy.

"Why would cheapskates Ottawa ever consider taking on old man saad and his contract? "

How about the fact that Ottawa is shedding $24 million in contracts off the books this summer. When the salary cap increases, rebuilders will still need to reach the cap floor somehow without necessarily taking on long term contract commitments. UFA's don't typically sign 1 year deals unless they're trying to prove they're still relevant in the NHL, something you can't really pull off in Ottawa with the current situation on that team.

How about the fact that 1 of those UFAs they're losing this summer is LW Mikkel Boedker whose 3 years older than old man Saad and if they did this trade, Ottawa would be acquiring a winger whose put up 20 more career points in 121 less games than Boedker?

A top 6 of:

Tkachuk - White - Ryan
Saad - Tierney - Duclair = looks good enough to be another season of rebuilding while staying competitive.

Thank you for trying to compare an NHL trade offer to buying a used car. Fortunately a lot of players still have thousands of miles left in the tank at 27 years old.

9.) 31 Mar 2020 18:55:21
What is the average age in the NHL? Last I checked it was just abiut 27. So while Saad might not be old in real life, he is overage for NHL. Players start going downhill at 27. Sometimes rapidly. Ottawa has no use for Saad. End of story.

10.) 31 Mar 2020 18:58:03
They don't want to stay competitive. They are trying to tank. Tanking teams try to be the worst they can. That's why they are trading all their UFA's away.

11.) 01 Apr 2020 13:27:23
I wish you would have brought some facts to the table, there's no validity to claiming that players start going downhill at 27.

In comparison, I believe the average age a defenseman takes to fully develop in their position is 26. In any case, I'd say an overwhelming majority of players in their mid to late 20s are just reaching their prime or slightly regressing, unless they've had an injury history that's catching up to them and rapidly regressing their performance.

"Ottawa has no use for Saad. End of story. " = See that's the thing, they have many uses for Saad that you're just overlooking because you haven't looked at the bigger picture. he's younger than half the free agents they're losing this summer. There are only 7 players on Ottawa that have produced more points than him so far this season (2 of them were traded at the deadline) . If he's not a player they can see working for them after 2020-21, he's another pending UFA next year that they could trade for picks/ prospects.

Ottawa has many uses for Saad. Next!

"They don't want to stay competitive. They are trying to tank. " = Again I wish you would have brought some facts. A team with an aged goaltender, poor defense and few forwards that can produce more than 30 points is not deliberately tanking, they're doing the best the can with what they've got right now (see Detroit Red Wings, my favorite team) . I can promise you there is absolutely no NHL team that is trying to be the worst the can.




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06 Jan 2021 19:06:44
I always thought it would be awesome for ottawa to go for an aggressive move and send out an offer sheet. I was thinking Matthew Barzal. New York Islanders are kinda cap strapped so they'd have a hard time matching. I was thinking something like 7 year 7.5 million per would likely get it done, maybe a 7x7 could be possible too. It would cost ottawa a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick.

Why would you do that? It would solidify ottawa's 1st line center position with barzal and speed up the rebuild a bit. it may hurt giving away those draft picks, but ottawa has 2 second round picks this year and all our picks next year. worst case we could recoup assets by trade deadline with some expendable players. Barzal is also young enough to be in his prime with the rest of our young players to be able to compete for the cup within the next few years (like Melnyk has stated is the goal) .

according to capfriendly, ottawa currently has projected cap space of 10.9 million dollars (so say 3.4 million if Barzal signed at 7.5). players like anisimov, gudbranson, stepan, reilly, and coburn coming off the books at the end of this season can potentially give ottawa around 17.7 million dollars cap space for next off season, which would give plenty of space to resign Chucky, Batherson, and Logan Brown who are rfas and potentially resign a combination of those UFA that I mentioned.

it is also an option to sell some of those ufas at the trade deadline to recoup picks.


1.) 06 Jan 2021 21:20:07
barzal sees himself an 8 plus million dollar player, i think ilses would take 7 x 7.5 and match easily.

2.) 07 Jan 2021 00:14:32
Barzel is worth over 10 million on a 7 year contract. New York would match that in a heartbeat. They can spend 10% over the cap.

3.) 10 Jan 2021 15:53:58
Barzal could be one of the top offensive forwards in the game if he was to play for a offensive team, unfortunately for him trotz and his system don’t compliment barzal style, but he still puts up decent numbers. I’m more than likely going to see a lot of hate for this but if barzal was on let say Edmonton I think he’d put up similar if not better numbers than draisaitl.



09 Feb 2019 21:42:02
ottawa: Stone
Winnipeg: Petan, Stanley, 1st

Ottawa: Duchene
Nashville: Fabbro, 2nd

Ottawa: Dzingle
NJD: 2nd.


1.) 09 Feb 2019 22:17:18
P Kane. wouldn't Ottawa want at least a 1st for Duchene? .

2.) 10 Feb 2019 02:55:58
The Jets wouldn’t part with Stanley for a rental.

3.) 10 Feb 2019 05:21:07
Don’t think the 1st trade is enough for stone, late 1st a big d man that may not be more than a 5/ 6 and small forward who can’t crack the line up for stone isn’t enough. even as a rental. I like the duchene trade tho for both teams. Nashville goes all in getting more secondary scoring for the playoffs and I think fabbro is going to be a awesome d man, good size good skater moves puck well, good shot? I’d take that if I was Ottawa.

4.) 10 Feb 2019 15:31:17
3rd pick> Stanley.



09 Feb 2019 21:37:12
chicago: keith (5.5mx5) +2020 2nd round
boston: Grzelcyk (1.4mx2) + Vaakanainen (ELC)

Boston gets a top defenseman for playoff run. chicago sheds some salary and gets a couple young pieces for retool/ rebuild. Keith goes to a playoff contender to help. 2nd makes up for the age and salary?




06 Nov 2017 00:56:28
confirmed trade!

Ottawa gets: Matt Duchene
Nashville gets: Kyle Turris
Colorado gets: prospects Samuel Girard, Vladislav Kamenev and a second-round pick from the Predators, and forward Shane Bowers, goaltender Andrew Hammond and a first- and third-round pick from the Senators.

thoughts on this deal?


1.) 06 Nov 2017 04:27:56
Joe sakic is now the front runner for executive of the year IMO.



23 Sep 2017 23:21:51
chicago: hossa + 3rd
vegas: 4th or 5th.


1.) 24 Sep 2017 20:19:37
I'd take much more for Vegas to take on that contract.
TB needed to pay a 2nd, 4th and Gusev to make Vegas take 1 year of Garrison at 4.5m or so. And Garrison can at least play and is a decent D for them.




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23 Jan 2021 20:40:46
Top shelf: I was in the right ball park with my speculation, jets just didn't get any d-men back in the deal and instead of adding the pick they got one.




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23 Jan 2021 18:24:56
I think both teams went off well. All 3 players wanted out of their current situation and wanted trades. All involved in the same deal.

Roslovic may be a huge downgrade from Dubois but for essentially a 3rd round pick it is a good pick up for them. He wants to be there and could surprise some people in Columbus.

I feel like Laine will be a sink or swim situation in Columbus when you consider he'd have to adapt to Torts system. I believe he'll get every opportunity possible there, but if he doesn't mesh with Torts it could be disasterous and we could be talking about a Laine trade within the next year again when his contract is up for renewal.

Dubois in Winnipeg solidifies himself as the bonified number 2 center behind Shieffle and gives Jets an amazing 1-2 punch down the middle they need. Shieffle and Dubois could potentially be Jets version of Crosby/ Malkin or Matthews/ Taveres or McDavid/ Draisaitl.




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08 Jan 2021 11:29:49
so wait. carolina is trading jets their own player as part of the trade? genius! that would be the move of the decade! do it carolina!




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30 Jun 2020 20:48:07
this is the most braindead trade proposal i've ever seen.

YES, lafrennier is an elite, potentially franchise level prospect, but if you have an opportunity to draft 2 high level prospects like byfield, stutzle, drysdale, raymond, rossi or askarov you do that to fill 2 positional needs instead. this year's draft is a deep one, it's not like the yakupov draft where there were only a few top prospects to choose from that draft.




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30 Jun 2020 20:43:11
"La has lots of fowards and desperately needs defense"

So if they have lots of forwards and desperately need defense, why would they take 2 forwards in chlapik and brown in this trade? wouldn't they ask for at least one defensive prospect from ottawa instead of chlapik or brown? i get you're saying draft one, but rather than doing this trade why not just take drysdale or sanderson 2nd overall then?





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