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07 Feb 2017 01:20:40
Some idiot suggested this trade and th mojority of people believed it was in Torontos favour.

TOR - Bozak, Carrick, Timashov, 2nd


ARI - Dvorak, Stone

Personally I think this is an over payment. Dvorak isn't such a can't miss prospect that the leafs should give up Boazak (Who i believe the leafs could possibly receive a first for at the trade deadline), Carrick who is a top 4 D man, Timashov who is a top prospect and a 2nd.

I wouldn't do it, what do you guys think?


1.) 07 Feb 2017 02:05:19
I would not trade Timoshov imo he will be better then Nylander and Marner.

2.) 07 Feb 2017 02:08:31
Carrick a top for d man and timashov a top prospect is a joke. Doesn't make sense for Arizona as the main price they get back is a 30 year old.

3.) 07 Feb 2017 02:24:47
You are delusional if you think that gets Dylan stroke and dovark.

4.) 07 Feb 2017 03:31:42
Uh yeah Toronto wins that trade by a mile. Bozak getting a first round? My god man.

5.) 07 Feb 2017 03:51:33
It's not Dylan stroke (Strome) it's Michael stone. And saying timashov will be better than marner is rediculous. Timashov is older than marner, and putting up a point every 3+ games in the AHL. Marner is near a point a game in the NHL. Nylanders game has grown already in a half season to being less one dimensional. Leafs take that deal. Losing carrick is the hardest piece because they are weak on D and he's only 22 or 23 and showing good promise.

6.) 07 Feb 2017 04:03:01
It's mark STONE he never said strome. Come on.

7.) 07 Feb 2017 04:32:46
Timashov better than Marner or Nylander? I really need to study the up and coming to the NHL. I think he means Michael Stone toasty.

8.) 07 Feb 2017 05:07:49
If Bozak was a UFA I think he'd get a first from a contender. But don't be throwing top 4 D around so lightly. And Dvorak has done more than Timashov in every league. So as far as prospects and picks in this trade I think Arizona would just stick with Dvorak. And if there to trade Stone they'd probably want a young piece back not Bozak.

9.) 07 Feb 2017 15:27:06
Mark stone plays for Ottawa not Arizona

It's Dvorak and Michael Stone. 26 year old right handed D man on Arizona. UFA at seasons end.
No Strome, No stroke. No Mark Stone. Come on.

10.) 07 Feb 2017 18:28:40
This might actually make a lot of sense for TML but I like Carrick + I'm not sure how big of a upgrade Stone is. Timashov is a good prospect, not a top prospect and Carrick is not a proven top 4dman. The leafs defence is just that bad after Rielly/ Gardiner/ Zaitsev.



18 Oct 2016 18:24:54
How do you guys think a Jvr for Lindholm trade could look?

Jvr, Dermott, 3rd
Lindholm, Bieksa

with bernier's salary coming off the books it won't be too huge a problem to resign him in the off season.

What do you guys think, are the leafs and ducks suitable partners?


1.) 18 Oct 2016 19:36:08
First off i don't think Toronto will want Kevin Bieksa he is 35 and not worth his 4 million for the next 2 yrs.

I think JVR + 2nd would get Lindholm get rid of the trimmings. ANH could use jvr to balance out their top three lines.

2.) 18 Oct 2016 19:45:56
I added Bieksa because currently the ducks have 0.350m in cap space without adding lindholm's not yet signed contract, so they need to move out salary first.

3.) 18 Oct 2016 21:27:47
Pretty awful for Anaheim. They would want far more than a winger only under team control for two more years and an average defensive prospect for a top 15 defenseman (in my opinion) at 22 years old. Lindholm is pretty much off the table.

4.) 19 Oct 2016 00:22:34
Not bad but no from Anaheim. Fowler will be moved before Lindholm. Also who would you rather have? Lindholm future number 1 D man for the next 10-15 years or 2 years of JVR and have him walk in free agency?

5.) 19 Oct 2016 03:00:12
Yeah JVR + 2nd isn't close to what will get Lindholm.



07 Sep 2016 19:43:17
Dallas - Niemi, Nichushken, Oleksiak

TB - Bishop

Havn't made a trade proposal in a while

Dallas have a monster team but their goalie situation keeps them from being contenders imo. I think bishop can make a difference

Niemi is to even the cap and give tb a back-up, Nuke hasn't lived up to his potential and has been a bit disappointing in his first few years, however I can see him flourishing playing on a line with stammer and killorn or even playing him with johnson and palat if kuch plays on the top line. Oleksiak is a monster 6'7, 260 lbs defenceman, he's shown he is able to play in the nhl in his callups the past 2 years w/ dallas but he isn't going to score you many points.

What you guys think?

like Pinball says:


1.) 07 Sep 2016 20:15:07
Depends on what Tampa thinks of Nichushkin.

2.) 07 Sep 2016 20:31:21
Idk, but if I was Tampa and taking on neimis salary unretaind I would want quite a bit more than what bishop is worth for him, like maybe add faska as well if tampas taking on neimi?

3.) 07 Sep 2016 22:35:31
Tampas biggest issue is cap. I can't see them taking on much cap past this season in a Bishop deal.

4.) 07 Sep 2016 22:43:59
The longer Tampa holds onto Bishop the less they will get imo. Stars would have to retain on Nemo but it's a good offer.

5.) 08 Sep 2016 00:20:37
I forgot to retain on niemi woops, and as BJ said the longer they hold onto him the less they get unless they want to let him go for free.

6.) 08 Sep 2016 04:26:59
If Niemi/ Lehtonen are involved and I think that would work best, then I think Callahan/ Filpula would need to be added.

7.) 08 Sep 2016 17:04:54
Dont rule out the possibility of SY riding things out with Bish, going all in for the cup. that's what he did with not trading Stamkos last year, too. I'd rather have another cup run with Bishop than get a meh return on him (especially taking on money for next season aka Niemi would be stupid) .

Also, Bishop could work as an expansion shield for TB. If he gets claimed by LV, Killorn/ Namestnikov and Koekkoek/ Sustr are safe from being claimed, since LV can't claim more than 1 per team.

So at the end of the day, keep in mind, whatever package TB gets, it has to be worth more than the chance to win the cup with Bish plus the chance to retain all those 4 players above.



27 Apr 2016 18:01:46
This is probably going to be very much in the leafs favour and completely out of the realm of possibility but I've been having a really hard time choosing between laine and matthews. so why not get both? see its completely out there haha, but what do you guys think it would take

JVR, Pitts 1st, 2nd, Timashov

2nd ovr (whoever it is)

dont judge me on this one haha, i'm just dreaming.


1.) 27 Apr 2016 19:06:06
It would likely cost us Marner, Nylander or Rielly.

2.) 27 Apr 2016 19:35:10
I would substute any prospect for timoshov he will be a beast. And no from the other team.

3.) 27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?

4.) 27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?

5.) 27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?



22 Feb 2016 22:20:22
Van - Shinkaruk for Calgary - Markus Granlund



1.) 22 Feb 2016 23:04:50
Tbh terrible trade for Vancouver. Really thought that Shinkaruk would be a nice fit for them in the future, but guess not. lol.

2.) 22 Feb 2016 23:34:43
Fire benning.

3.) 22 Feb 2016 23:35:26
If your trying to tank. You don't trade your prospects.

4.) 22 Feb 2016 23:50:10
I still have trouble figuring that one. Does Vancouver just want to load up at centre?




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30 Jun 2017 21:38:22
Top Free Agents now after the buy outs

LW -

RW -

C -
Fisher (will almost 100% resign in nash)

LD -
Del Zotto

RD -
Girardi (lol)

G -

Dont know if there are any others that i missed. But any you want your team to tarket? Or maybe any predictions?


1.) 30 Jun 2017 23:11:40
id love leafs to nab thorton and marleau on 2 year contracts for whatever money leafs can afford before having to pay the kids.

do not want them to over pay for a dman in free agency

too lazy for predictions right now z.

2.) 01 Jul 2017 01:29:46
Ha Ovie, Laziness is a disease, And were both sick

marleau and thornton would be perfect on short term deals for the leafs also i think franson would be great at maybe 3x3.

3.) 01 Jul 2017 03:57:40
I want Miller to go to Philly still an effective starter.



18 May 2017 00:05:39
Jvr, 1st

Niederrieter, Brodin


1.) 18 May 2017 00:59:12
Cmon BigZ, I know you're a leafs fan but this is brutal for Minny. Nino > JVR with his 1 year left. Brodin > mid 1st.

2.) 18 May 2017 01:43:36
Don't forget age^ similar season production wise and Nino is a few years younger.

3.) 18 May 2017 07:48:51
yeah i know guys saw this on reddit wanted to see what ppls thought.

4.) 18 May 2017 07:49:44
before people say it was my idea, i don't even have a reddit and I don't even want brodin on the leafs rather have an rhd.



06 Mar 2017 19:21:37
Just read a stat that said Lehner has not made a single save in the shootout so far this year. Amazing accomplishment


1.) 06 Mar 2017 19:29:08
But is he like 0/ 2 or something much more impressive, like 0/ 20?

2.) 07 Mar 2017 16:28:51
He us 0/ 8 this year.

3.) 07 Mar 2017 16:29:12
Is* sorry.

4.) 07 Mar 2017 20:40:11
Holy! Lol may as well tell the back up to start stretching during OT.



27 Feb 2017 21:23:33
Burrows to the senators is like taking a turd and wrapping in another turd


1.) 28 Feb 2017 02:54:41



26 Feb 2017 19:31:13
In the festivities of the trade deadline I have an activity we can all do.

Post the players on your favourite team (or any team you want lol the more the merrier) who:

1) most valuable move-able piece(s)
my answer:JVR
2) player(s) you want gone, gone gone
my answer: ben smith and hunlak pls
3) 1 untouchable player
my answer: Matthews
4) Available player you want to move for
my answer: 1 of Anaheim's top dmen

Thought it'd be fun to hear everyones opinions


1.) 26 Feb 2017 21:11:48
1. JVR/ Gardiner/ Kapanen
2. Hunwick/ Polak/ Ben Smith/ Jake Gardiner when he plays like sh! t.
3. Matthews
4. Carolina or Anaheims dmen, Riley Sheahan or Brendan Smith of the Wings.

2.) 26 Feb 2017 21:22:59
I will give this a shot for my Red Wings:

1) Most Valuable Moveable Pieces:
Mike Green, Frans Nielson, Danny Dekeyser, Thomas Vanek, Petr Mrazek, Henrik Zetterberg ( Can either retire or go for one last cup chance)
2)Players I want Gone:
Jonathan Ericsson, Brendan Smith, Jimmy Howard, Niklas Kronwall, Justin Abdelklader, Darren Helm, Luke Glenndenning, Riley Sheahan, Drew Miller, Steve Ott
3) Most Untouchable Player (s) : Dylan Larkin, Anthony Mantha, Andreas Athanasiou
4) Available Players I want: Cam Fowler, Sami Vatanen, RNH, Any Young D-men and Forwards, Picks/ prospects.

Detroit in a nutshell but there could be other players to add to any of these lists. I think I covered the main ones.

3.) 27 Feb 2017 05:53:39
1) Hansen, Miller, Burrows (in that order)
2) Miller, Sbisa, Edler, Dorsett, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Sutter, Erikkson, Sedins, Biega, Larsen, Willie Desjardin (coach), and Trevor Linden (president) .
3)Horvat (Demko, Joulevi, Boeser, 2017 1st Rd pick also should be untouchable)
4) Duchene/ Landeskog would be cool but mostly anything that says we're rebuilding, young assets and Picks/ Prospects.

4.) 27 Feb 2017 15:29:20
1) Johnson
2) Garrison, Callahan, Filppula, Coburn
3) Hedman (+ Stamkos, Kuch, Vasy, Drouin)
4) any top 4 RHD, preferably young and not too expensive, puck-mover.




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05 Sep 2018 17:15:48
as a leafs fan I would rather trade gardiner for a better dman than brodin if he is traded at all. and personally I'm not sure brodin is worth a 1st,3rd and bracco in the first place. he has a career, 0.247 ppg and a career high of 25 points with 21 points last year. is he a good dman? Sure, but i'd rather put our pieces into a better dman. I understand the value of him being 3 yrs younger and 3 years term (nice good contract i will admit) but I definitely would rather have one year of gardiner+1st+3rd+bracco than brodin.

hope that wasn't too biased haha.




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04 Sep 2018 14:54:58
thats pretty close I like it, especially the part where lee+pulock wouldn't even get you panarin much less adding murray.




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15 Aug 2018 17:35:47
The only defenceman better than gardiner right now is Jones (one of the best in the league), werenski is going to better than gardiner i'm sure but you can't say that columbus can't use a 50 pt puck moving dman. having werenski+jones on the first line with gardiner+murray/ savard on the 2nd pair is an amazing top 4.
Connor brown makes almost ever top 9 in the league and is a really good two way player. and then there's the most likely late 1st. The team doesn't get much worse and gains a 1st

Thats a decent return for a pending ufa. ugh I don't like defending pinball.




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15 Aug 2018 17:27:01
Why is there an argument about nyquist on here.
after the leafs detroit is my second favourite team, nyquist really isn't that great highest points in season was 54, 4 years ago. he has had 40, 48, 43, 54, 48 over his past 5 years in the league. He is not worth a 1st as a bunch of guys on here are saying (could he get a return with one, honestly I wouldn't be surprised. i won't overestimate nhl gms)

on the the return, a 2nd + 3rd/ 4th probably gets him. With Lievo he easily makes the red wings top 9 (without nyquist) would you take any of glendenning/ bertuzzi/ frk over him? i sure as hell wouldnt. he doesn't fit on the leafs forwards core because they have at least 12 fwrds better than him.

I'd love for Det to get a 1st for nyquist but i'm not sur eit will happen. also why does nyquist fit on the leafs? the only forwards I take nyquist over are brown, ennis, lindholm who will most likely be tor's 4th line. (for what its worth nyquist is probably better than kapanen/ johnsson right now but i take that youth and upside over him our top 9)

Wow I just wasted my time on Gustav Nyquist. i swear he better get the wings a 1st now.




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17 Aug 2018 22:41:01
Jones has established himself as one of the best dmen in the league (right handed D may I add) . why oh why would they trade him (in general) for petan. and a 2nd if trouba doesn't resign with winn.

did you forget to add trouba to the trade proposal? even then i'm not sure clb do it/ .




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02 Aug 2018 16:00:01
is this post serious?

jankowski and hanifin for Nylander AND gardiner?

i wouldn't trade nylander for hanafin+jankoski much less adding gardiner.

Also not moving nylander unless its for a RHD of similar age and potential. which hanafin is not.




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24 Jul 2018 23:59:31
jesus I missed you all hahahahah

Vb overrating leafs players, barrie being a c-nt
Has anything changed?

Guys, asking barrie to show respect is asking a little bit too much, first ask him to treat you as a fellow person then go from there.

Now for a bit of hockey, kapanen would be 1st line rw on the oilers. Is he a 1st line player? no, oilers just have terrible wing depth. Puljiarvi (spelt very wrong) is definitely worth more than kap, but right now I would take current kapanen as a player over pulji.

Also why in the world would you trade kapanen for a 1st right now? I don't think anyone would trade a 1st straight up. anyways, I'd rather use him in a package to get another player.

Soooooo sorry for the long post, missed all you mofos.




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22 Nov 2017 16:26:27
rielly is 23, barrie is 27

trade is crap but rielly and barrie are not comparable.




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18 Nov 2017 09:18:33
Why in the world would the leafs do that.