12 Mar 2018 16:31:37
Ok revamp version see what kind of responses.
Hypothetically if Arizona wins lottery and EK really does intend on leaving ottawa and seeing as how Dorian loves 3 way trades how bout this for a block buster.

Arizona : Ottawa's 1st, Montreal's 1st, and Ryan

Ottawa : Arizona's 1st, Drouin, domi, and Montreal's 1st next year and the year after

Montreal : EK, smith, arizona's 3rd, and pitsburghs 3rd next year

Arizona gets a guy who's capable of 50 to 60 points a year plus 2 top 5 picks

Ottawa gets dahlin and 2 possible top 6 guys 1 with attitude and is injury prone and one who needs a change of scenery to pick up his game again plus a couple 1sts in up coming years

Montreal gets the best defenceman in the world to this point, as well as a couple 3rds, and a great depth player who can play anywhere in their lineup and is valued by other teams

Thoughts?

1.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 16:47:38
Wow. just no. MTL gets destroyed with this.

2.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 16:58:33
Lol ok ottawa fan here wtf u won't get rid of ryan contract that easily hell no from montreal.

3.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 17:02:18
Okay. this is extremely hard to understand, first off cause its way too many pieces moving and its way too disorganized. Lemme organize it:

**also, since NBR based this off of his last postm i'd assume he means that Arizonas 1st is 1st overall, which is Rasmus Dahlin.

Montreal Trades: 2018 1st, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, Jonathan Drouin.
Montreal Recieves: Erik Karlsson, Zack Smith (I presume its him), 2018 3rd, 2019 3rd.

Ottawa Trades: Erik Karlsson, 2018 1st, Bobby Ryan, Zack Smith.
Ottawa Recieves: Rasmus Dahlin, Jonathan Drouin, Max Domi, MTL's 2019 1st and MTL's 2020 1st.

Arizona Trades: Rasmus Dahlin, Max Domi.
Arizona Recieves: OTT's 2018 1st, MTL's 2018 1st and Bobby Ryan.

See how bad this is when you lay everything out in an organzied manner. Dahlin is percieved as the next EK. Sure, he could bust and only be a 40 point NHL dman, but the ceiling is high and he looks to be in the same boat as an Auston Matthews when it comes to '1st overall eliteness'. So, from Ottawa, they trade Karlsson for the younger, cost effective, possibly better version of him, and then a 1st (probably someone like Brady Tkachuk) for Jonathan Drouin, Max Domi and two firsts that are more than likely going to be top ten, since they're coming from Montreal? that's absolute highway robbery from Ottawa. And EK doesn't even come guaranteed with a contract extension.

Montreal gets absolutely fleeced, basically giving up Sergachev and 3 1st Round Picks for Erik Karlsson. If Steve Yzerman didn't want to give up Sergachev ALONE for Karlsson, what makes you think the return for Sergahev (which is Drouin) and 3! THREE! more than likely top ten picks will go for Karlsson? Are you off your rocker? AND EK isn't EVEN EXTENDED WITH THIS. And don't give me nonsense about this 'Zack Smith is worth a 1st and that's why the return is so high! ' NO. ZACK SMITH IS WORTH A 4TH!

And as for Arizona, i don't understand why they would try to move down in the draft in order to gain an atrocious contract in Bobby Ryan, and give up someone with potential in Max Domi. They need Rasmus Dahlin and wouldn't trade him to simply move down in the draft. There would have to be an exceptional offer for them to move the pick for Dahlin, and that simply is not close.

4.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 17:04:39
And, lol. You refer to Drouin and Domi as 'attitude and injury prone players', but call Zack Smith a 'great depth player who is valued by other teams'. Man oh man. How biased is that? 😂😂😂.

5.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 17:35:00
Yeah this post is all over the place jeez.

6.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 20:37:43
The fact that you say : and mtl gets a couple of 3rd is so cliche and looks pretty much like on the troll post I made with the point I was trying to make: 2nd and 3rd are not going to be taken by team as compensation.

7.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 20:41:41
Also you absolutely seem not to care about Mtl's needs
Wich are getting faster and younger
Not Older
Also how Mtl will resign Karlson with Ryan's contract.

8.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 21:26:06
So habs trade drouin ans next 3 years of first rounders for a year of karlsson, when they don’t have to talent right now to surround him with? especially if they’re trading drouin away in it. Then they lose him or pay him 12 mill for 8 years and have 2 RHD making 20 mill till they’re 36 and 41 lol good call Rambo.

9.) 12 Mar 2018
12 Mar 2018 21:28:36
Oh man what a dumpster fire of a post. Biased Ramblow strikes again.

Bobby Ryan is a cap dump. He has negative value at his current cap hit. End of story. He's been playing at a 40 point/ 82 game pace the past two seasons. He makes 7.25 mill for another four seasons. That. Is. Horrendous.

10.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 02:47:02
Meant smith not Ryan.

11.) 26 Mar 2018
25 Mar 2018 23:46:42
Ok 1st off you need to p**s off with Ryan being negative value (1 bad season and an overpaid I'll be it by 2 mil) contract doesn't make him negative value. He's a 50 to 60 point guy minimum when healthy and even this year has a 0.54 point per game average with 29 points in only 54 games and playing with 3 different line combos or more till he found chemistry. in what world is that a player with negative value?


And yes EK is a generational talent already deemed THE BEST DEFENCEMAN IN THE WORLD TODAY! So naturally it'll take at least a solid prospect and 3 1sts to acquire him. compensation for an RFA of his talent level is usually 4 years worth of 1st round picks, and Drouin has proven to be a bad apple at time in locker room and hasn't lived up to his full potential yet and domi had 1 great year but what has he done since?

Arizona 1st off is no longer the best odds at landing dahlin as that goes in buffalos favour now but even if they were that's all it is is odds as it is a LOTTERY NOT A GUARENTEE!

So why would Arizona do this you ask? Simple they get 2 lotto picks instead of 1 plus they add offence in Bobby Ryan to play with stepan. .

Why would ottawa do this? To replenish the pick they will lose to Colorado and gain 2 big prospects and 2 other picks one that gives them a better shot at landing dahlin in the LOTTERY!

Why would Montreal do this? To add a big body depth guy who can do anything ask of him in Smith and finally get a legit number 1 defenceman in EK who would compliment a Weber pairing perfectly and triple the offence Drouin provides now at same time.

EK is in the prime of his career and is not defined by this season. he just had surgery on a fee bad injury, had no training camp, and was forced back earlier than expected. it's call dejavu Matt Cooke fans. same thing happened back then and he rebounded the following seasons to become the best defenceman in the world.

So again talk all the c**p you want, but this is a fair deal 3 ways around.

Montreal solidifies defence upgrades offence and gains leadership

Ottawa ups their shot at landing dahlin and gives themselves a future with all the picks and kids

Arizona gets 2 shots at dahlin or any other lotto picks plus adds scoring that they can afford to over pay a little as their cap total isn't as big as most other teams currently.