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18 Mar 2018 04:09:31
lets say montreal continues loosing and they end up winning the lottery and they pick Dalhin.

Mtl trades: pacioretty, 2 2nds (mtl)(chi).

could they get a pick in the region of 4-7 for it???


1.) 18 Mar 2018 04:32:58
Not in this draft.

2.) 18 Mar 2018 11:38:13
Not sure they could and I think it would be risky to only get one unproven player in return.

3.) 18 Mar 2018 16:21:59
Actual trade value wise, I think they could. But the way the hawks are built, it’s probably more important for them to have a really good young player that will be cheap for years to come than patches right now.

4.) 18 Mar 2018 16:30:20
Nah this is a too good draft
More like a 10th - 15 overall pick.

5.) 18 Mar 2018 18:29:31
Could probably just trade patches to the islanders for there 1st pick probably around 10th to 12th.

6.) 19 Mar 2018 13:52:04
I could see edm where ever they end up, really most teams picking that low are rebuilding and going with youth, but den a team not to far away but even then think they’d be looking for defense, as long as patches wants to resign for a reasonable price it might wprk.

7.) 19 Mar 2018 22:34:02
Nobody said they were making the trade with the hawks biased jim.

8.) 19 Mar 2018 23:57:46
Holy crap Habby. you going through menopause or is just your time of the month? All your unnecessary arguments are getting super ridiculous! Or are you doing that school girl thing that you’re just being a prick to Jim cause you have feelings for him? Just curious cause you like to argue with him a awful lot.

9.) 20 Mar 2018 02:35:34
Just realized that keyhabs even said that patches and 2 picks wasn’t enough to get the top pick that I said value wise it would be enough. And yet I’m biased jim and a habs hater lol tool.

10.) 20 Mar 2018 03:25:26
I read it as hawks because it says (Chi) after the one pick and I mixed it up. It’s in the range where Chicago should be picking. You have shown what you are man. Drop it. You have leafs fans, oilers fans, Canucks fans telling you you’re an idiot for days now. It’s not a bias of leaf fans againsts the habs. It’s people from all different fan bases with common sense sick of you. Figure it out.



03 Mar 2018 23:23:09
Look we all know Drouin isn't a Center and never will be and Galchenyuk is better than him in that position sooo

Mtl trades Pacioretty, 2018 2nd(washington).

Edmonton trades: Puljajarvi, 2019 1st.

Drafts Tkachuk





1.) 03 Mar 2018 23:32:47
Edmonton ain't trading the 1st overall pick. Lol.

2.) 03 Mar 2018 23:35:06
No thanks bruh.

3.) 03 Mar 2018 23:58:06
You are delusionnal too
Oilers are not going to throw all theses years of reconstruction in the garbage.

4.) 04 Mar 2018 00:29:11
pick is top 10 protected.

5.) 04 Mar 2018 01:14:51
Take out that picks and still no from Edm.

6.) 04 Mar 2018 01:46:05
Pick also says 2019.

7.) 04 Mar 2018 03:30:14
Lol. Why you guys always trying for Oilers players. Go after some other teams.
Easy no from Edm. Look at age and contracts man. Jeez.

8.) 04 Mar 2018 10:25:08
Ya but is Chuck ok at center? Wasnt he ok last year for 44 games when he had 41 points in 44 games? Wasnt he a point player for 44 games in this league? Isn't that good?

9.) 04 Mar 2018 14:24:50
Not the problem
You think we can get a future elite scorer for peanuts.

10.) 04 Mar 2018 18:25:04
Maybe if you switch the picks around.

11.) 04 Mar 2018 19:54:22
Fair deal for everybody not name Mtl.

12.) 05 Mar 2018 19:10:43
Probably not "targeting" Oiler players as the GM's trading record.



01 Mar 2018 18:09:50
At Draft

Montreal trades: Max pacioretty

Chicago trades: Saad

which team adds?

Montreal drafts: Tkachuk





1.) 01 Mar 2018 18:16:33
CBJ add, imo.

2.) 01 Mar 2018 18:39:21
saad > patches.

3.) 01 Mar 2018 19:00:32
You mean chicago @the_triplets.

4.) 01 Mar 2018 20:01:54
Lol Saad has 27 points no from Mtl.

5.) 01 Mar 2018 21:57:17
Patches is also 4 years older, going to get a raise next year, only has two more goals, in the exact same games played and is a -14. Not so cut and dry that he’s the better player.

6.) 02 Mar 2018 02:59:51
-14 lolll pacioretty has pk time but saad doesn't and +- doesn't mean anything.

7.) 02 Mar 2018 04:14:34
Rather have saad, he's been consistent though the years and having a off year, but Chicago rebuilding does want to get older, trading saad probably would want younger cheaper players.

8.) 02 Mar 2018 04:31:01
Well you don’t register minus’s on a penalty kill so I don’t see what that has to do with anything either. Also patches kills penalties and saad doesn’t?

Patches ice time Per game
Total 19:06
PP 3:07
Pk: 1:43

Saad Ice time per game
Total 17:22
Pp 2:19
Pk 1:45

So patches plays more 5-on5 and more on the PP (been on the ice for almost 100 min more than saad this year) and has 2 more goals. Saad killed a fraction more penalty time. It’s really easy to find the information. They both kill penalties very similarly. Saad has similar goal production in less opportunity both even strength and power play. He’s younger and under contract 2 years longer for less than patches will make in those 2 years. Saad all day.

9.) 02 Mar 2018 16:49:40
Patch is the better player if Chicago wants out of that sadd contract they would have to add. Any unbiased person could see that lol.

10.) 02 Mar 2018 17:53:42
If Montreal wants to rebuild and trade patches then obviously a trade for saad doesn’t make sense for them. But player for player to say patches is better isn’t so cut and dry is what I said. And when the argument is that patches kills penalties and saad doesn’t, then you see that saad plays more every night on the hawks PK ranked 10th in the NHL and patches plays less on a 26th ranked Habs Pk, it’s foolish. Talk about biased and unreasonable.

11.) 02 Mar 2018 17:55:49
And again it goes back to my simmonds over patches point. Saad plays a physical game, goes to the net, has been 10-12 pts less a season over last 4 years and has 2 cups. That experience of being a champion and knowing what it takes plus the physical play makes up for those 10 points ten-fold.

12.) 02 Mar 2018 20:33:52
Physical play lol patch has more hits this year then sadd has the last 3 years combined. I know there is more things involved to be considered physical but I think that stat alone proves pacioretty is at least his equal in that department. add that to being the better scorer even with lesser line mates and your going to sit here and tell me saad is better. Change your name man it's making me sick. I told you before and I'll tell you again your one of the most biased on here.

13.) 02 Mar 2018 22:17:52
Still don’t get how I’m biased. I like a lot of players from every team in the league. Every team there's players I like and players I dislike. Because I said I like one player on the hawks (which is not my team), and think he’s a better player means I’m a biased hab hater? As a white guy, I better tell everyone that I’m friends with every single black person in the world or I must be a racist too lol you’re a goof. One habs fan on here already said he lost the job to Bergevin, another one says he played for the habs but spelt his name wrong and doesn’t know what year he was born, it’s only a matter of time before you’re Geoff Molson and Mtl4Life is Youppi the mascot anyway.

14.) 02 Mar 2018 22:28:31
I’ve never said a bad word about Weber besides that contract is going to be a tough one down the road (not just me, pretty common opinion) and I told habs fans they were nuts when people posted trades and proposals putting price on waivers when he was struggling at the beginning of the year rather than piling on. And I’ve called lots of ppls low offers for habs players out before. I’m not a fan of galchenyuk and think teams are better off not investing in him because he always seems to come up short of expectations and I find patches a very one dimensional player, which is fine in a supporting role, but don’t think he warrants the value you put on him. Wouldn’t be the best player on just about any other team in the league. That’s my opinion, you have yours. But that’s not hating on the habs. THose are 4 of the 5 most talked about/ criticized habs (drouin the other) and I’ve defended drouin too saying I like the player, think they should have spent sergachev on a natural centre, not a winger, but that’s not drouins fault.

15.) 02 Mar 2018 22:36:25
Habby. pretty sure saad isn't a cap dump, i would rather have a good young player with term than an older player that's nothing but rental.
I for one enjoy jims insight, aside from sharing his opinions and views like everyone else he brings a lot of cold hard facts to this page. I also find his comments very fair when it comes to proposals on his team, the leafs.
I also noticed that there has never been a pacioretty proposal on here that's been believable to habs fans, EVER. so who's being the real homers here?

16.) 03 Mar 2018 01:20:30
Yeah Jim that's fine but one thing I will say is when subban was with the habs you among many others and yes I remember you saying it. Had weber ranked as the better dman. But surprisingly when they switched teams subban was automatically better. Hmmmmmmm what does that tell you?

17.) 03 Mar 2018 01:52:19
Plus jim you tippy toed around the fact pacioretty hits more in a game then saad does in a month? What's up with that?

18.) 03 Mar 2018 02:21:04
I’ve never said subban is better than Weber. One for one in their prime I take weber all day. I liked the trade at the time for the habs. And I said if the habs didn’t win in the next few years it will look bad and then will look worse every season after and I still believe that.

19.) 03 Mar 2018 02:26:10
And thanks facelift, appreciate it.

20.) 03 Mar 2018 08:35:23
Have to backup buddy Gabby lol. Jim stop with the hate for mtl where not good enough to be hated lol. Not yet. Control your biased sir.

21.) 03 Mar 2018 16:55:47
Colt, I get your a habs supporter and throw your weight behind Habby, but you pretended to be an ex NHLer and messed up how old you were. You have no credibility. Having your support is like when the KKK came out supporting Trump. Some support you just don’t want!

22.) 04 Mar 2018 10:26:53
Ok bud. First off I don't appreciate how you mock my career I work really hard for it.



24 Feb 2018 21:12:41
At the draft

Mtl trades Pacioretty(50%), 2018 2nd, Hudon.

Edmonton trades RNH, 2019 1st.

Mtl trades Drafts Tkachuk

Mtl trades 2019 1st(MTL), 2019 1st(Edm), Lehkonen.

Flyers trade sanheim.

Deslauriers-logan shaw-andrew shaw




1.) 24 Feb 2018 21:55:16
Would you really give up that much for sanheim? That could be 2 lottery picks again.

2.) 24 Feb 2018 22:23:40
Cone on two first round picks for sanheim. I know he’s good but really.

3.) 24 Feb 2018 22:30:12
What? No,
RNH for Patches k. I get that . but 2 firsts in 19 plus Lehkonen for Sanheim. I can see Edmonton getting there crap together and back in contention next season, but I'm not sold on Habs being out of this funk, another lottery pick. no guarantees on Edmonton either
. Jus NOPE.

4.) 24 Feb 2018 22:37:35
Lmao this is so bad both. Are u kidding me especially on the second.

5.) 24 Feb 2018 22:52:00
Why would you trade 2 1st for sanhiem.

6.) 25 Feb 2018 04:59:46
Not getting rid of Hudon.



14 Feb 2018 05:03:33
Mtl trades Pacioretty(50%). 2018 2nd, 2018 4th.

nashville trades - eeli tolvanen, dante fabbro.

before anyone starts saying anything. pacioretty isn't a rental and he's on really good contract and mtl are keeping 50% of his contract and remember everyone what hanzal got 1st, 2nd, 4th.

then Mtl trades plekanec(50%), 2018 4th.

penguins trades 2018 2nd.

then Mtl drafts Tkachuk






1.) 14 Feb 2018 05:18:44
Consider Nashville probably wants to go in I can see this trade but that is one steep price, so I also don’t see them making this.

2.) 14 Feb 2018 07:55:26
Nashville has got a young core so I can see them willing to give up 2 young promising pieces for a guy that has scored 30 plus goals the last few years.

3.) 14 Feb 2018 10:46:41
Both are top prospects, Habs would be lucky to get one of them, no chance they get both.

4.) 14 Feb 2018 13:14:25
If not gets both does guys for Patches that's a steal imo. But realisticly one of those prospect and a second or B prospect is fair. They are both A level prospect such is equal to a top rental but since Patches has another year left the second or B prsopect males it even I believe.

5.) 14 Feb 2018 15:47:12
the reasoning is that our 2018 second is almost like a late first, would it be more fair to add a 3rd on that which is close to a second.

6.) 14 Feb 2018 15:50:20
i remember when sherback wasn't a good skater now he's hella fast and and an amazing skater so vilardi will prob learn.

7.) 14 Feb 2018 16:07:56
Retaining 50% on patches ups his value so realistically he should get those 2 A prospects no problem. Imagine a 30 goal scorer for less than 2.5 million, not bad.

8.) 14 Feb 2018 18:52:24
I wouldn't give yo Tolvonen alone for Patches let alone adding Fabbro. Think of the age gap. Ten or so years of Tolvonen or one year of Patches. I'm going with Tolvo.

9.) 15 Feb 2018 22:08:57
U wouldn't trade tolvanen straight up for pacioretty?

Might wanna get that checked.

10.) 16 Feb 2018 01:07:24
I agree with yup, nashville definitely shouldn't trade tolvanen for a year and a half of old patches that they don't need.

11.) 16 Feb 2018 03:04:26
This is brutal for nashville. Maybe if Pacioretty was scoring like a 30 goal scorer would this make sense. but even still. Nashville top 2 prospects for one year of a a guy slumping is a huge no from the preds.
1St2018, 2nd 2019 plus aberg for pacioretty.




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11 Mar 2018 01:49:35
Mtl has 4 second round picks in the 2018 nhl draft is it possible to package 2 of them with someone like Byron, Hudon, for a pick in the region of 11-17?


1.) 11 Mar 2018 04:27:24
Ya of course. Probably top 4 actually.

2.) 11 Mar 2018 05:08:48
Unlikely you get that high. Supposed to be a deep 1st round. Unless one of the seconds is like 32nd-35th, another before 40 and one of those players, you MIGHT get into the 20-25 range. But 2 mid 2nds and small middle six player at best doesn’t get you close to knocking on the door of top 10-15.

3.) 11 Mar 2018 05:18:35
I'd rather keep the 2 picks and both of those players.

4.) 11 Mar 2018 06:48:30
Add Patches and you should get the 1st overall +.

5.) 11 Mar 2018 06:51:47
I think your team will probably get top 4 actually yup. One more top pick should complete the rebuild, lol. He was simply asking a question and many teams have moved down in the draft. Chiarelli might even trade a top 5 for Byron alone.

6.) 12 Mar 2018 20:56:28
Lol I know you meant it as a joke Yup, but if were trading for two second round picks, Byron and Hudon, I would expect a top 10 pick. Cmon.



21 Feb 2018 00:15:07
Mtl trades: Gallagher, mete, 2018 2nd(chicago), 2018 2nd(caps).

Oilers trade: Draisaitl




31 Jan 2018 02:34:52
Mtl trades- Pacioretty( 50% retained), Hudon.

Stl trades-Thomas, vince dunn, 2019 2nd


Mtl trades plekanec(50%retained)

winnipeg trades 2018 3rd, conditional 2019 4th(becomes 3rd if winnipeg makes it to semi )


Mtl drafts filip Zadina.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 14:08:04
yeah blues are not trading their top rookie dman and top c prospect for patches. Hudon is useless. Saw him upp close last night 8 row from glass behind hutton. he and patches were invisible.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 19:02:16
The Jets part could work.



31 Jan 2018 02:24:41
stl- Thomas, dunn.

Mtl- Pacioretty, hudon.

not sure bout the value tbh.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 14:09:10
how bout no. So now you know how good dunn is since you saw him play huh. LOL.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 15:33:37
He actually posted this before the game.



17 Dec 2017 05:58:09
any team's best offer for Max pacioretty not point of lowbaling this isn't real life.

expecting somwhere along the lines of

- A prospect + pick

- young established player

- established top 2 d

- young top 6 center

obviously there will be picks added to balance out the trade.


1.) 17 Dec 2017 08:44:25
Just remember. He only has a year left on contract. He isn't no Tavares or Karlsson. Don't expect the moon for him.

Established top 2 D. For Paciorety? My friend. Lol. lol. lol.

2.) 17 Dec 2017 14:23:12
Wouldn't expect any better from you yup but do you remember what duchene got.

3.) 17 Dec 2017 14:44:32
I mean we all know edmonton wouldn't give up kris Russell for him but there are probably a few teams that would trade there number 2 dman for him.

4.) 17 Dec 2017 14:44:45
The Duchene with 4 years left? Ya not a single established player went back definitely not a top 2 D. They won't get a top 2 D. They def won't get topb2 D Pick prospect young top 6 center and another young established player. Patches is a good top 6 winger with a year left and you're expecting more than Karlsson will get. Likely get a 1st 3rd and decent C that will help balance cap.

5.) 17 Dec 2017 16:08:56
Jbs did you just say karrlson wouldn't get a number 2 dman in a trade?

6.) 18 Dec 2017 00:18:07
It's crazy if you think you're getting an established #2 top pairing D back for Patches with one more year left.
If you had a said a top D prospect who can maybe but a future #2 D projected, that's a little more believable.

Who's going to give you an already established #2 D for Patches. Can you name a few. In thinking of guys like Ekholm, Stralman, Brodie/ Giordano or Hamilton, Parayko, Myers/ Trouba or Buff,
All those guys to me are established top pairing #2 guys that maybe aren't considered true #1s.

7.) 18 Dec 2017 02:14:20
Myers? Really? Myers is meh. Patches could easily get him.

Honestly, I think Patches could get:

1st and A- Prospect like a Kasperi Kapanen and like a B prospect, like a Travis Dermott.

Cause just remember, Andrew Ladd and like Jay Harrison got Marko Dano, a 1st and like a 3rd. And Ladd was a UFA.

Kane and JVR, if being moved, will get more then Ladd did, cause both are playing well.

So Patches should get more than both those two, and from Torontos perspective (although TO would not make this cause we need no more offence) it'd be like 1st/ Kapanen/ Dermott.

8.) 18 Dec 2017 02:28:13
I was more thinking along the lines of muzzin pretty much every insider has reported that trade rumor most with la adding. but they could all be crazy I guess I won't argue that.

9.) 18 Dec 2017 17:55:39
I don't understand the Russell comment. He isn't a 2d. And he is overpaid by $1M and 1 year of term. He wouldn't get Patches at all. And I never would think he could.

10.) 18 Dec 2017 22:19:02
Who disagrees with my last comment and thinks Russell is a #2 D man, and could get Patches straight up? Lol. You are delusional.

11.) 20 Dec 2017 20:05:20
I didn't know Russell was a #2 D man. That's sweet. I guess I was undervaluing him here.




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19 Mar 2018 02:11:25
the only good piece we are getting is a first literally.




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13 Mar 2018 19:45:27
Then ill take darnell nurse and a 2019 1st for petry

Petry 69 games 33points
Nurse 68games 20ponts

Edmonton adds a first unprotected
😂😂😂😂😂 yup you have no life just making troll posts what do u evem do in life.




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13 Mar 2018 16:27:50
Montreal would have to offwr way more.




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13 Mar 2018 16:26:53
Ummm noooo wtf.




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12 Mar 2018 16:58:33
Lol ok ottawa fan here wtf u won't get rid of ryan contract that easily hell no from montreal.





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