28 May 2018 00:44:57
Here's a thought.

Ottawa in rebuild Vancouver needing to retool with Sedin retirements and tons of cap to boot and Edmonton always so troubled defensively, and carolina needing a doctor lol.

Ott : Hoffman, Ryan, burrows
Van : 7th overall pick

Ott : ceci, chlapic, 2nd
Edm : 10th overall pick

Ott : 7th overall, 10th overall, 22nd overall
Car : 2nd overall, 3rd round pick

Vancouver has the cap space for the Ryan contract and Ryan and Hoffman would definitely fill the sedin void and burrows was a fan favourite there anyway making them the one team willing to take him.

Edmonton has expressed interest in Ceci many times before and if they're willing to give hall straight up for him before there's no reason to believe the 10th overall in a weak draft is out of the question espessially when you add the 2nd and chlapic who is nil ready next this coming year.

Carolina would be hard pressed to trade the 2nd overall sure but would be pretty crazy to turn down a 7th 10th and 22nd overalls for it since they have nothing after Skinner and hanifin worth mentioning. 3 1sts that high would help them tremendously.

Ottawa could then use the 2nd and 4th to draft any 2 of zadina svechnikov or tkechuck or even boqvist to replace.

1.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 02:50:41
I knew this was a Biased Rambo proposal the second I saw the first trade. Hoffman is not good enough to obtain the 7th overall when you attach two cap dumps. Deal falls apart right there.

2.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 02:53:10
So I’m going to say this. If Ottawa has 7, 10 and 22 they should absolutely keep those picks.

3.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 03:02:04
And Carolina doesn’t need all those picks at all. They need to take the Russian sniper and if they can acquire a couple forwards and a goalie they’ll be back in the playoffs.

4.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 03:30:19
To replace Ryan Ceci and Hoffman then buyout gaborik and make a serious pitch for Tavares in free agency. They can also re-up Karlsson stone and duchene. and still have enough money they can throw at a solid 1 year rental in the top 6 and use it again down the road on locking up young kids like Chabot white and brown along with the 2 they draft.

Zadina Tavares stone
Formenton Duchene white
Batherson pageau brown
Pajarvi Smith pyatt

Boqvist karlsson
Claeson wideman
Lajoie borowieski.

5.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 05:17:13
First off I forgot Chabot in my list for defence pairings.

Secondly unsportsmanlike is there something wrong with you? Did you suffer blunt force drama to the head as a child or something? Hoffman might not be worth a top 5 but on his own he is more than worth a top 6 to 10. The guy is a pure goal scorer at 28 years of age who puts up 60 points annually, and consistently. He's got speed that most players envy and can play anywhere and with anyone his team needs him to. To say he's not worth that on his own just shows your ignorance to the sport let alone adding a consistent 0.6 ppg average guy like Ryan who is capable of 50 to 60 points a season too and while he is over payed by 2 million tops Vancouver is one of the teams with the cap to take him on now without sedins and burrows is a throw in as Vancouver fans love him.

6.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 05:19:30
Oh and mcjesus carolina absolutely needs those picks and more lol their roster is attrocias and 1 sniper isn't enough or close to it to fix that.

7.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 07:06:51
Haha bruh Ottawa is garbage.

8.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 14:16:14
Man okay 1st of all you know you lost the argument as soon as you insulted unsportsmanlike. 2nd of all Braydon Schenn is better then Hoffman and look what he returned a expected late first and a 2nd no way is Hoffman worth a top 10 pick.

9.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 14:30:19
But one thing I do agree on is Carolina makes that trade all day that’s 2 top 10 picks and another 1st.

10.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 14:45:43
Rambo, if you read my reply, I did not state that Hoffman is not worth the 7th overall pick on his own.

I very clearly stated he was not worth the 7th overall when you include two cap dumps. Which you most certainly did, with Ryan and Burrows. I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Your "consistent 0.6 ppg guy" has actually averaged less than half a point per game the last two years. And Ottawa is paying him $7.25 mln a year for four more years. That's one of the worst contracts in the league, no matter how you spin it.

Good news! Ottawa can buy him out for a hit a little less than $2mln a year for the next 8 seasons. I'm sure Uncle Eugene will love that.

11.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 16:07:01
Did everyone miss the "blunt force drama"? Is that overly theatrical mimes with baseball bats?

12.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 18:11:49
Burrows yes is a complete cap dump no doubt but Vancouver loves him for what ever reason that is beyond me but Ryan is not a total cap dump. I can't stress enough that while he is over payed by roughly 2 million tops he's still worth about 5 million for what he provides and is stop top 6 caliber on majority of nhl teams dude that much is proven as he still puts up the points and is better in his own end than guys like spezza or Heatley ever were. and this past season he was 0.6 ppg average, the year before was his worst but he rebounded strong in playoffs and this season considering the multiple line up changes which do play a factor.

And vddvbb what game do you watch bro? Seriously.

Is scheme better than Hoffman now? It's debatable as he does play with 2 premier stars in Schwartz and taresenko who will inflate his numbers but even then he only got 14 more points this season. at the time he was traded though? Not a chance he's better. he put up 6 or 7 less point which is close but while Hoffman was a plus 17 on a team with no offence scheme was a minus 15 on a team sporting one of the best offences and defences in the league. there's no comparison.

13.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 19:41:36
Bobby Ryan scored 33 points in 62 games last season. That's half a point per game and only modestly above his "worst" season before.

He's on the downside of his career, has trouble staying healthy, is overpaid by *at least* $2 mln already, and has four more years left on his contract.

That's a cap dump. But hey--you can believe whatever you like. Maybe this whole site is just a conspiracy built to undervalue Sens players.

14.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 20:13:33
Oh yeah and mcjesus I disagree about the point you made if ottawa has those picks.

Reason being is even though it would be great to have 4 picks it remains that only 1 has a slight chance of cracking the main roster right away and making an impact the others will take a couple years. Carolina can get away with waiting as they still have all their picks. where as ottawa would prefer to fix their issues quick rather than risk giving Colorado a lotto pick. best way is to draft a sign a few impact players while they can.

15.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 20:57:55
+- is a product of the team and Ottawa was much better deffinsively. Schenn also has the ability to play Center which is much more valuable. On top of this he is younger.

16.) 29 May 2018
29 May 2018 00:00:05
I don't know why Zadina is in your lineup because Ottawa have the #2 and #4 pick after the trades you made. With number 2 Svechinkov will be picked and number 3 mtl will pick Zadina. So what you thjnk Ottawa picks Zadina at number 2 instead of Svechnikov. Lol then why trade for the second overall if your not going to pick the nest player available. Males no sense.

17.) 29 May 2018
29 May 2018 00:08:54
Insanely biased Rambone.

18.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 15:18:25
Colt66 I would take zadina over svech but that's just me.

And vddvbb that year that schenn was with Philly there's no chance Ottawa's defence was better.

Ghostisbehere - karlsson = ottawa
Provorov - methot = Philly
Gudas - Phaneuf = Philly
Del zotto - Ceci = even
MacDonald - claeson = Philly
Schultz - wideman = ottawa

Yeah I'd have to give the edge to Philly in defensive depth as well as offensive depth that year.


Oh and the comment about playing center shows you know nothing about ottawa players or you'd know that Hoffman also has the ability to play center as that's where he started his career was at center. he plays the wing in ottawa because ottawa has always been loaded down the middle so they put him on the wing to give him more ice time and he has thrived playing the wing.

Would you like another history lesson?

19.) 03 Jun 2018
03 Jun 2018 01:05:01
OK, let's look at the 1st deal, Hoffman is decent start but too expensive. Ryan is a salary dump, at 31 and 4 yrs left at 7.25M he is not in any Canucks plan for future so no thanks. Burrows is a Canuck favorite but at 38yrs old it is over.
If Ott wants the #7 I would say Ceci, Chaplit and 2nd rd pick would probably get it done.
The 2nd deal, this deal is negated by my first counter deal and gets better return.
The last deal, trading all three 1st round picks would be foolish.

20.) 05 Jun 2018
05 Jun 2018 14:50:13
Lol Ryan is not a total cap dump the guy still puts up 50 to 60 points anually or 0.6 ppg annually.

And Hoffman too expensive? Lol the guy is under 5 million for 2 more seasons and consistantly puts up 60 + points a year.