12 Apr 2016 18:04:29
If stl gets eliminated first round what about a trade revolving around
Stl petri
edm draistl
Stl gets a future number 1 center that they can build a new core with
Edm gets a number 1 dman they desperately need and rnh is a good 2nd line center
Stl then re signs shatenkirk so they still have a good d core and good kids in the system.
1.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 19:39:13
It would take a vast overpayment. One that No one will agree with on this board. Which will have yep, chirp, all variations of "0il" screen names saying i'm crazy or some sort of negativity topwards me.
Petro isn't the problem. There is no scenario were we trade Petro. If anyone goes it will be shatty.
2.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 19:52:01
Edm won't give up draistl for Shatty. If they get eliminated they have to shake stuff up.
3.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 20:07:40
they will Backes will be gone, brouwer will be gone and shatty will be gone. THe core will stay intact.
I know Shatty doesn't get Draisaitl. I gave up on wanting him a long time ago. i'm more interested in buchnevich orSchechnikov as cores for a shatty plus picks. Restock the cupboard.
See the thing about the blues is they are a top 5 team in the league year in year out but just can get past the first round of the playsoffs. What a lot of people don't realize is 4 out of 5 years blues lost first round. one year we beat sanjose and lost to the kings. Another fun stat is 4 out of 5 years blues lost to teams that went on and won the Stanley cup. SO really the team is about 90% there just have to find the right pieces to get best team that can do some damage in the playoffs.
4.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 20:46:45
Zboril and Khokhlachev for Shattenkirk. Bang.
5.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 21:28:29
Zboril is awful and Khokhlachev has thrid liner written all over him.
6.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 21:34:56
Colt can u tell what it would take for
Edm to get petro? Just wondering.
7.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 22:03:04
Im not the GM, Petro is a core member to this team. Shatty is the one who could become expendable.
Draisaitl and edm 2016 1st rnd 1-4 OA pick. Possibly a bit more.
1) Petro is core and is not the blues problem
2) Petro is #1 top 10 offensive Dman in the league
3) Petro is 26 years old signed to a great contract for next 4 years
4) Petro is pretty much untouchable and we are not looking to trade him at this time.
8.) 12 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 22:25:26
No here is where everyone has their way with figuratively. LOL.
9.) 13 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 23:36:38
Colt, you seem to have to your sense in other posts, good for you :D
However asking for Drais and EDM 1st is a bit much, don't ya think? I mean that's one of Matthews/ Laine/ Puljuarvi (or however u spell him) / Tkachuk/ Dubois/ Chychuryn + a possible franchise centerman in Drasital.
Draistial came into his own zone this year, and with his gifted size - he is capable of breaking out as a 1st line centerman.
I just can't see EDM adding to Drais tbh.
10.) 13 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 23:46:25
Colt55 definitely bought a Petro jersey recently.
11.) 13 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 23:48:02
I think it would work for both teams. With Paryako being "God" he should be able to log 28 min a night on your top pair like Rielly, right tank? And it gives you a physical Center that can score and be a 1st liner with Taresanko for many years to come. You also have all these great D prospects correct? So you'll be fine Blues need a shake maybe throw them in a washer machine or something.
12.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 00:14:23
Top 10 offensively or just top 10? I think Draisaitl in a year or two when we know what he really is might be closer to Petro than you think. As of right now Hall would probably be close to his value but wouldn't make sense for them unless Shattenkirk gets signed and they know what they have in Parayko.
13.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 00:41:16
I think other GM's around the league know Edmonton is desperate for defenceman so I can see them really making Edmonton pay to acquire d-men this offseason.
14.) 13 Apr 2016
12 Apr 2016 23:32:06
@Colt
Just stop it. You're bias is becoming unbearable. That kool-aid you think you've been drinking is actually windex.
Pietrangelo is not a #1 top 10 offensive or defensive defenseman in the league. Not even close. He was tied for 35th in defenseman scoring this year. He scored 7 goals. Not exactly a offensive powerhouse. Not to mention the majority of his points came from secondary assists. Not that you would know what that is. (I'll give you an hour to figure it out) . He fits in statistically with the Francois Beauchemin, Michael Stone, Alex Goligoski and Matthias Ekholms. Some serious talent right there. You also seem to be quick to judge your buddy Shattenkirk, meanwhile he has scored more goals and points than Pietraneglo in less games. So to say he is a #1 top 10 offensive defenseman in the league is asinine. Completely ridiculous. Not that I wouldn't expect anything other than that from you.
Karlsson, Burns, Letang, Kilingberg, Josi, Weber, Subban, Doughty, OEL, Giordano, Byfuglien, Barrie, Keith, Seabrook, Shattenkirk, Hedman, Yandle, Ghost, Brodie, Carlson, Vatanen, Rielly, Suter, and Faulk are all defenseman that have much better offensive capabilities than Petro and that's just off the top of my head.
Also, you can brag all you want about how good you think he is (and he is good, just not as good as you are making him out to be) but what matters is what he does in the playoffs. Last time I checked, the Blues choke 1st round every year.
(Insert your childish Leafs jokes, I definitely haven't heard them before! )
I will be awaiting your nonsensical response.
15.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 01:37:57
Like I said no one will agree with me and hall is not even close to value of petro. lol really. Besides we have steen fabbri on the left. Any way blues have no reason to trade petro unless an over payment is made. Petro is an offensive dman top 10 #1 d in league. Draisaitl has had a very good season. And your right he could be better Down the road. But as of right now he isn't. Once again we have proven talent against potential talent. #1 dmen don't grow on trees and we will keep ours. Better off trying to get trouba or oel. Petro, parayko, tarasenko, swartz, fabbri are our young core pretty much untouchable.
16.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 01:44:54
Topshelfer I understand were your coming from. But. #1 dmen with offensive upside or the most valued commodity in the league. Petro ranks in at top 10. The blues have no intentions of parting with him. You would have to overpay to pry him away. Most likley army wouldn't answer calls on him. But draisaitl had great season then he hit a wall. And like everyone else will tell you 1 season doesn't make the player. Or so I have been told about parayko. Bud is still waiting for him to fail lol.
Also side note petro has been valued getting this type of return on hockeys future.
17.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 03:57:50
Stammer leafs nice of you to put your 2cents in. Points are only one aspect of a defenseman responsibilities. As for secondary assists last time I checked those are still assist and generally are from the player who started the play. As far as petro being a #1 top ten dman in the league. That's a fact. Don't care what your opinion is. Petro is the blues #1rhd he is not for sale. So Insread Of Talking Smack On Petro And THE 3rd Best Team In THE PLAYOFFS. Figure out how long it will take your team to get back in the playoffs. 13-14 he was ranked 7th by nhl. com, sb nation this year in Oct ranked petro 9th. Espn ranked petro 10th. Also he has 37 points in 70 games. Playing 26 mins in the toughest division in the league.
Bleacher has him ranked as the 3rd Best workhorse dman.
18.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 03:58:53
tank you're just special. stammer2leafs is normally just as special as you, don't get me wrong, but in this instance he's right, peits is young, but is pulling a dion coming out of calgary at this point of his career, his best might be behind him. take what you can get and sign shatty.
19.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 04:06:53
Also stammer half those dmen u suggested are playing per you and most oiler fans sheltered mins lol.
20.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 05:05:31
What ever you say ovies hero. When he falls out of top 20 then we will tslk.
21.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 05:46:41
Hall -- arguably one of the best LWers in the league -- is not worth Pietro? Those are some thick, thick rose-colored glasses you're wearing, tankie.
22.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 06:17:01
Awe, Colt, you like to talk about me when it's not even a response to a comment. I'm flattered.
You're delusion is shining nicely for all to see today. Well done buddy.
23.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 08:09:39
I kinda worded that bad but I realize it would make no sense for the blues to get Hall I'm just saying there value is close. You just showed your bias by disagreeing.
24.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 12:43:52
If you think hall can get you a type of dman like petro . then I say good luck. We shall see how the offseason treats your teams. we will see which teams are winners next year and which teams are not. My bet is blues will be just fine without the horrible trade ideas posted on this site.
Yep my delusions seem to be reality from a blues perspective the only delusion you and oiler fans should be worried about is your over rated perceived value of your players. Nobody wants broken players who can't win. Outside the oilers no one likes losing.
25.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 14:34:28
Chirp your almost as delusional as Colt here. Hall, one of the best LW in the league? Lmao too funny. Ovechkin, Benn, Gaudreau, Parise just to name a few off my head do they not exist in your world?
26.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 15:00:31
If you look at steens stats and compare them to Hall stats. they are similar with hall barley winning out. BUT on the flip side steen is a prt time center part time lw who hands down has the better two way play.
27.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 15:02:14
MAIN POINT
PETRO - untouchable, NOT for sale, Would take a ridicules offer to even get ARMY to pick up the phone. SO move along nothing to see here.
28.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 15:31:59
@Bud so he slots in at 5th? I'm okay with that and also as far as trade value goes Hall > Parise.
You can definitely name 5 left wingers that did better than Hall this season but it doesn't always mean there better. Just like you could name 20 defence with better numbers than Peitrangelo but doesn't mean there better.
29.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 17:03:26
I ain't sure what each player is worth, but one thing I think will happen is if the Blues lose in the 1st round, expect a huge change. That also means the possibility of petro being traded.
30.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 17:42:52
I agree with colt to an extent for once lol. Petro is "untouchable" agree. It would take an overpayment. Agree but Draisaitl is not bad they surley wouldn't be adding a top 5 pick as well. Maybe their second and a decent prospect but Draisaitl is a beast I think he would be sick with Tarasenko obviously he is over valuing petro but we all over value our own players but he does have a few good points.
31.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 20:15:40
Weber, Keith, Carlson, Subban, Klingberg, Karlsson, Josi, Burns, Bifuglyen, Giordano, Mcdonagh, Letang.
All better offensively than petro.
32.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 20:31:05
ok for starters these guys had less offense
petro- 37 pts
Rmcdonagh - 34 pts
Petro is a better defender than the following
R mcdonagh
Karlson
subban
klingberg
josi
letang
Any way petro had off year he was a 50 pt scorer 3 previous years minus the shortened season. Say what you want he is still untouchable and won't be traded.
Funny how Olier fans break down how bad a player is that they want so they can try and low ball for the guy. Happens every time.
33.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 20:31:05
ok for starters these guys had less offense
petro- 37 pts
Rmcdonagh - 34 pts
Petro is a better defender than the following
R mcdonagh
Karlson
subban
klingberg
josi
letang
Any way petro had off year he was a 50 pt scorer 3 previous years minus the shortened season. Say what you want he is still untouchable and won't be traded.
Funny how Olier fans break down how bad a player is that they want so they can try and low ball for the guy. Happens every time.
34.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 20:56:46
Woah woah woah, hold on there Colt. Don't go talking about people Oilers fans overvaluing players whale. You overvalue yours just as much if not maybe more. Parayako for example. Yore just as bad as some. I will admit some oilers fan are delusional with value of our players, I am actually pretty sane when it comes to that reality. But every team has delusion. Just like you.
35.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 21:22:25
Petro > Karlson?
Did i just hear that?
36.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 21:36:58
defensivley just because you score 70 points doesn't mean you great in your own end. So why don't you read the entire post.
37.) 13 Apr 2016
13 Apr 2016 21:42:57
Yep
I don't target another teams player degrade that player them push my crappy player saying its even like most of the oiler fans have been doing with Eberle RNH yak and now Hall. As far as parayko he has had an outstanding season put up more points than any of your dmen, is a plus 28 which is best among all rookies. say whatever insult you want the kid is a stud. Your just jealous that your dmen reinhart and nurse will never develop. Good luck at another year of rebuilding. that will be what the 8th year in a row LOL.
38.) 14 Apr 2016
14 Apr 2016 06:28:07
Oh dear god you make yourself look like an idiot most the time.
39.) 15 Apr 2016
15 Apr 2016 18:11:21
josi > peits.