04 Feb 2015 04:45:23
It's time for a real rebuild in Toronto.

I believe Franson's time in TO is done. (too bad because I feel like right now he's the Leafs best Dman)

Franson will get a 1st or 2nd in 2015 + a Good Prospect. Even as a FA to be any team pushing for a cup would do a deal like this for him. He will be one of the top players at deadline day.

Winnik will get a 2nd or 3rd (2015) due to his ability on the PK and he brings some offence to the bottom 6.

Santorelli will get a 2nd or 3rd (2015). He is a lot like Winnik but not as strong on the PK. He is however a lot more productive offensively.

Holzer will get a 4th to a 6th rd pick. He's a good 3rd pair guy on a lot of cup contending teams.

I feel like the players above are the only moves the Leafs can do till the offseason. Lupul may get calls but the Leafs won't get fair value for him due to his injury history.


1.) 04 Feb 2015
Typical leafs fan Way over valuing the worth of its players

Franson is only going to get u a 2nd rounder.
Winnik a 3rd or 4th
Santorelli same 3rd or 4th

Holzer u may be right 4th to 6th all he is on any contending team is depth though like 7th or 8th in case anyteam loses a d-man in the playoffs


2.) 04 Feb 2015
^ I love how you said he is overvaluing then added basically the same value.

Franson - if a bidding war starts could fetch a 1st from a cup contending team (note I said cup contending, so it's a LATE round 1st - don't lose your mind haters, it's not McDavid)

Winnik - Really depends on who is trading for him and who else is available. He's inexpensive and better than most depth wingers available (3rd seems most likely).

Santorelli - his value is a lot higher than people are thinking. He can be productive and he is cheap. almost every contending team could add him, so I would think there is going to be a lot of interest. I could see Toronto asking for a conditional pick.

Doubt the Leafs move Holzer, unless someone is really hard for him.


3.) 04 Feb 2015
04 Feb 2015 15:39:23
franson will, without a doubt, get more than a 2nd.

santorelli I think MIGHT get a 2nd if someoene really believes he an help them

winnik is a 3rd or 4th, but once you start getting this late into a draft the selection number doesn't really matter, just your scouting staff matters lol.


4.) 05 Feb 2015
Our leafs have a serious lacking of decent scouting.

any dumb schmuck can pick in the first round. craig button anyone?


5.) 05 Feb 2015
There is an issue there somewhere ovie whether it is scouting or player development or both


6.) 05 Feb 2015
Toronto has been mismanaging assets for years.

They haven't had the patience to let players develop. If a guy isn't a star by 23, he is released or he walks away. News flash, it's going to take some players longer than others to develop!