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19 Apr 2021 23:17:20
Oilers BIG UFA Signing !!!

DOUGIE HAMILTON 7yrs @ $8M

oil10

1.) 20 Apr 2021 12:28:35
Why not just resign Barrie? He’s been solid, can pay Seattle to take Neal aswell. 2 years left after this season @ 5.75, it would easily be a contract they’d be willing to take with compensation.
Resign Barrie 6 x 4
Convince Seattle to take Neal with a 1ST, and maybe Benson or Lavoie


2.) 20 Apr 2021 13:16:24
I think more teams should stick to 4-5 year max contracts seeing how fast they can become awful.


3.) 20 Apr 2021 17:30:42
NotACasual - Barrie has been great but Hamilton is Bigger and can defend better with also putting up the points. IMO he is a much better player. Oilers need more size in their line up.

Websjac - If that's the case, then sign Hamilton to 5yrs @ $8M - $8.5M.


 

 

09 Apr 2021 20:40:12
Oilers Trade Deadline Deals

EDM
Garland
2021 5th round pick (ARI)

ARI
Bouchard
2021 6th round pick (PIT)
2022 4th round pick (EDM)
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EDM
2021 3rd round pick (PIT)

MIN (or another team)
Chiasson
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EDM
Merzlikins
Foligno ($1M retained)

CBJ
Turris
Jones
Koskinen
2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
2021 5th round pick (ARI)
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
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EDM
Glendening
Staal
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)

DET
Neal
Samorukov
Kahun
2021 1st round pick (EDM)
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oil10

1.) 10 Apr 2021 11:11:47
I wouldn’t give up Bouchard bro he’s solid, going to be a really good defensemen for the Oilers. For the others I’m not too sure, there’s too much going on. Good post though, it’s different for sure I see what you’re trying to do.


2.) 10 Apr 2021 12:53:58
For the first one the oilers won't give up Bouchard

Second value is pretty close so sur

Third one not enough for merzlikins and folingo

Fouth are you on crack pr something no way oilers give up sammy and first for glendening and stall.


 

 

07 Apr 2021 17:46:29
EDM
Horvat
Pearson
Virtanen

VAN
Nugent-Hopkins
Puljujärvi
Turris
Samorukov
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EDM
2021 4th round pick

NSH (or another team)
Chiasson
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EDM
Ryan
Glendening
2021 3rd round pick (VGK)

DET
Khaira
Kahun
2021 4th round pick (COL)
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EDM
Watson
2021 2nd round pick (SJS)

OTT
Neal
2021 1st round pick (EDM)
2021 4th round pick (EDM)
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EDM
Merzlikins
2021 5th round pick (NJD)

CBJ
Jones
Koskinen
Benson
2022 5th round pick (EDM)
2021 6th round pick (PIT)
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EDM
Oleksiak

DAL
P. Russell
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)

oil10

1.) 07 Apr 2021 18:15:34
Dang A lot of trades here. First one I don’t think Makes sense for either side.
Second one sure I think if Edm gets offered a fourth they take it and Nsh makes a low risk buy to remain 4th seed.
Third one I don’t mind either. Detroit gets the younger players and gives up vets. They probably do it if they get the better of the picks. Say Edm gets the fourth and Detroit the 3rd.
The fourth one is good if you take out the second going to Edm.
Huge no from Clb in 5th
6th is prolly about right maybe even a 3rd instead of a 2nd.


2.) 07 Apr 2021 19:02:09
Websjac - Yes a lot of trades.

I think the first one with VAN gives EDM a solid 2C to allow McD and Drai to stay on the top line. They are crazy good together so would be great if we had a solid 2nd line so they could stay together. And I think Horvat and Pearson would make the 2nd line solid. VAN gets a solid player in RNH (Oilers won't give the $ he wants) but VAN could and then a solid player who is just getting better in Pools.

The CBJ trade maybe EDM give up the 2022 2nd and then the Dal trade changes to a 3rd.

IMO, these trades make the Oilers Bigger and a bit Grittier. The types of players that they are missing. And a Goalie that they have needed for so long.


3.) 07 Apr 2021 19:50:39
1st ones terrible for Horvat alone.


4.) 07 Apr 2021 23:35:32
Considering where Detroit is in the rebuild, would rather just move Ryan and Glenndenning for picks instead of Khaira and Kahun (If you need to give 1, Kahun is the preference)

Or if you need throw in fillers like Turris or someone to make the rosters even, I’m good with that.


 

 

06 Apr 2021 16:54:16
EDM
Foligno
Merzlikins
Savard
2021 4th round pick (CBJ)

CBJ
Jones
Koskinen
Neal
Khaira
2021 1st round pick (EDM)
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EDM
2021 2nd round pick (FLA)
2022 3rd round pick (FLA)

FLA
Larsson
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EDM
Oleksiak
2021 3rd round pick (DAL)

DAL
Samorukov
2022 3rd round pick (FLA)
2021 4th round pick (CBJ)
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EDM
2021 5th round pick (MIN)

MIN
Chiasson
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EDM
Glendening

DET
Turris
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EDM
Hall ($4,000,000 retained)

BUF
P. Russell
Nygård
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
2022 5th round pick (EDM)
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EDM
Watson
2021 3rd round pick (OTT)

OTT
Kahun
2021 4th round pick (EDM)

oil10

1.) 06 Apr 2021 17:27:14
Koskinen and Neal essentially negate the value of that first package, considering that it'll probably take a 1st to dump Neal, and adding Koskinen's 4M on top of that? No from CBJ.

Second trade's fine tbh, Florida could use a blueliner and they'd probably pay that for Larsson if EDM wants to trade him.

Third trade's also probably fine, a decent prospect and a 4th for Oleksiak may even be a bit too much, maybe drop the 4th to a 5th or so and it's probably better.

Fourth trade probably is a no from Minnesota, Chiasson's been alright, but I've seen tons of Oilers fans on twitter complaining ab him, and with his cap hit, I doubt a team pays a pick for him.

Glendening gets more than Turris imo. Turris is fine, but Glendening is probably Turris+3rd/ 4th.

If the leafs packages are bad for Hall, then that's somehow even worse, cause Nygard and Russell are just placeholders, so a 2nd and a 3rd for 50% Hall? If people think the Kerfoot+1st for Hall deals are bad, this ones worse.

Last trades pretty lateral. Watson is a better fit for the playoffs for EDM, so i can see why they'd trade for him. That's probably even tbf.


 

 

29 Mar 2021 13:36:35
BIG Trade between Oilers and Red Wings !!

EDM
Glendening
Mantha
Ryan
Nielsen
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
2021 3rd round pick (VGK)
2021 5th round pick (DET)

DET
Kahun
Samorukov
Turris
Khaira
Nygard
Neal
2021 1st round pick (EDM)
2021 4th round pick (EDM)
2021 6th round pick (PIT)
2021 7th round pick (EDM)
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)

oil10

1.) 29 Mar 2021 15:13:20
why would the wings make this deal? none of the players coming back to the wings will be part of their plans moving forward and they are taking ken hollands salary dumps and other then the 1st what else is there? especially if you want mantha in the deal it would take a lot more in the quality assets department.


2.) 29 Mar 2021 15:31:52
So, there'es really no need for this trade to be this massive. Anywho, let's start by cutting players of even value from either side.

The 2nd, 3rd and 5th should be equal to the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th, if anything the picks from Detroit are worth more than those from EDM (besides the 1st) .

Nielsen has one year less than Neal, so he's worth more than Neal, so Nielsen = Neal + Khaira + Nygard, imo.

Then, Ryan>>Turris, So Ryan, at the bare minimum is equal to Turris and Kahun, although I'd still say Ryan>Kahun and Turris.

That leaves Mantha and Glendening for Samurakov and the 1st. I'd say Mantha by himself can get more than that.


3.) 29 Mar 2021 15:39:39
May aswell add the next 15 years of 7th round picks from each team.


4.) 29 Mar 2021 22:12:09
This isn’t NHL21.


 

 

 

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01 Apr 2021 14:42:58
Oilers need more bigger grittier style of players.

They have too many "smaller style" of players;
McD
RNH
Yamo
Drai(he is big but not gritty)
Pools(again big but not gritty)
Turris
Ennis
Barrie
Russell
Bear
Nurse(again big but not gritty like he should be)
*Thats 11 players!!!

Mcd, Drai and Nurse are not going anywhere but I would be open to trading some of the rest to get some Bigger and Grittier players.
Players like a young Perry or Chara, a Wilson or Reeves. The Oilers need these style of plays throughout their line up. They get pushed around too much.

Possible Options;
Dougie Hamilton (top 4 D)
Jamie Oleksiak (top 4 D)
Anthony Mantha (1st or 2nd line)
T.J. Miller (1st line)
Ryan Getzlaf (2nd or 3rd line C)
Marcus Foligno (3rd line)
Chris Kreider (2nd or 3rd line)
Austin Watson (4th line)

The Oilers just need to get some bigger players in their line up.

oil10

1.) 01 Apr 2021 18:28:55
These players might not be “gritty” but there not “smaller style” of players. McDavid is strong on the puck and definitely not small. Yamo throws lots of hits and is quick on the forecheck. Drai doesn’t hit often but uses his size in different ways. Puljujarvi is heavy on the forecheck and in front of the net. Ennis similar to Yamo. Don’t think Bears size is an issue. Nurse is probably one of the stronger guys in the league, and isn’t afraid to fight anyone. And some of the players you named are almost a point per game players that don’t need to be gritty.


2.) 01 Apr 2021 19:43:18
Ya they are not so called small is size but they are not gritty or power forwards. McD and Drai are strong on the puck and that's great. I do like Yamo cause he throws hits but he also gets tossed around a lot. And I agree about Nurse but he doesn't use it like he should. And Yes Bear is good too . but your missing my point. There is just too many of those plays.

Bear, Barrie, Russell, 3 D-men that are small. Then add Nurse who doesn't use his strength enough and Lagesson who is still learning the NHL. There needs to be a mixture of grit and size. So they don't get pushed around in front of our net.

I just feel that there needs to be more size so they don't get beat in battles and can score those grease goals. We have the top 2 players in the NHL so they have the skill but just lacking in the grit and size.


3.) 01 Apr 2021 23:29:49
Mantha would be a solid add.


4.) 02 Apr 2021 14:53:34
I don’t know I see McDavid as a more skilled Matt Cooke/ Ralffi Touris loves to make cheap shots. Probably dirtiest player in NHL.


5.) 02 Apr 2021 19:49:53
I agree with most of what Ebs said but please don’t say Ennis is physical.


6.) 02 Apr 2021 22:52:11
Lol no I think I just mean aggressive on the forecheck. I actually thought Yamo through more hits than he’s credited for. Either way I don’t think Yamo’s size is much of an issue. Ennis might be better off replaced with a bigger player considering he’s in the bottom 6.


7.) 03 Apr 2021 15:12:05
Just checking Ebs. I watching him play in Toronto and if he hit anyone, it was accidental. Just like the rest of the leaf team. I think Edmonton is built well for the playoffs.


8.) 04 Apr 2021 22:15:01
Toronto17, Edmonton and Leafs are both great regular season team. They are not playoffs teams, unless they end up playing each other in round 1 that’s how far they will go.


9.) 05 Apr 2021 20:16:09
A few years back the oilers looked good and physical in their playoff run. If Kassian and Nurse play a physical game, that’s all you need. Not everyone has to hit and fight but the presence needs to be there. I like Montreal’s team but you seem to think they are the team to beat.


10.) 06 Apr 2021 03:03:01
Mtl will be the team to beat in the North comes playoff time. They have at least 4 game in their pockets on other teams and still manage to hold tight for a playoff spot. The worse is that they haven’t even started playing to the potential they have. With the quality depth they have and the Stanley cup winners they have on the team they are serious cup contenders to anyone who knows what it takes to win in the NHL.


11.) 06 Apr 2021 19:39:21
I guess we will see. They haven’t even started playing to their potential is quite comical. That could be said about every team considering nobody knows what that is. It could be said that a few Montreal players are playing above average right now.


 

 

04 Mar 2021 14:21:27
The Oilers last 3 games have made it clear that they are still not good enough. Their weakest areas are the same every year ... Defense and Goal !!

Players that might be available?

DEFENSE:

ANA - Lindholm
(team is going to be rebuilding)

NAS - Ekholm

CAR - Hamilton
(read that both sides are far apart on a new contract. I would be good with giving him 5yrs @ $8M)

Goalies;

ARZ - Kuemper

CBJ - Korpisalo
(hasn't been great this year but he has been and is young)

ANA - Gibson
(he probably isn't available but he would be the best goalie to get)

MTL - Price
(read rumors that the Oilers are interest in him)

I feel the Oilers need 2 better D-men and a Goalie. So which ones could they get and who would they need to trade?? (realistic trade)

Like they say ...."Offence wins you games but Defense wins you Championships!!"

oil10

1.) 04 Mar 2021 17:48:57
You could’ve added all 6 peices and still lost last night.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 17:57:16
Problem is they don’t have the prospects and assets along with cap to really do anything.


3.) 04 Mar 2021 20:46:03
The Oil have there 1st this year and a bunch of good prospects. I think Korpisalo is the guy they should go after. Maybe a 1st, Skinner and Marody? Good pick and a couple middling prospects.
There D isn’t great but there fine and young, personally not to worried about them.


4.) 05 Mar 2021 18:41:11
Oilers went on a tear before the 3 leafs games where they obviously fell apart (not to say the leafs didn’t also play well, but Oilers had their chances too and just didn’t finish) and then the leafs went and lost to Vancouver, who (sorry) Edmonton is obv better than this year.
So try and do the math on that. 🤷🏼‍♂️

While the leafs played well I really think the Oilers also just had a string of wildly sh*tty games and are still in a fine position overall. It’s not time to tear the lineup apart. I am in support of Bear or Jones moved for a scoring winger, however. And it sure would be nice if Lagesson would return soon.


5.) 06 Mar 2021 01:40:16
I could see Edmonton getting in on the Bernier trade sweepstakes if those goalies don’t work.


 

 

03 Mar 2021 13:06:20
Oilers Rumors .....

Read some rumors and wanted to see what people thought and what it would take for the trades to work.

Rumor #1 - Rakell

Rumor #2 - Price

What are your thoughts??

oil10

1.) 03 Mar 2021 15:50:07
Neal and Koskinen for Price. No clue if he has value but 10.5M for 5 and a half seasons is crazy. Montreal probably needs to add something for someone to take that risk.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 18:05:43
If I’m Edmonton I wouldn’t touch price he’s and aging player on the back side of his career but rackell for Chaisson and a 1st.


 

 

29 Jan 2021 17:31:23
Oilers need a big shake up!!
Too many of the same players and all small.

Needs are #1 Goalie, a #1 D-man and more grit (bigger players).

Players to trade;
RNH+ for a top Pair D-man

Nurse, Larsson, Chiasson, JJ for grittier players (bigger 3C) and a Goalie.

**What players are available and who do you think the Oilers could get ??

oil10

1.) 29 Jan 2021 17:52:46
I think Oilers should keep Nuge and Nurse but I do agree with the goalie part. Chiasson is okay, Larsson has been awful.


2.) 29 Jan 2021 19:50:01
I would be gauging CBJs interest in RNH and see what could be possible regarding a trade involving him for Jones or Werenski. I have a feeling it would be RNH and a 1st+ and hell yes would I accept that. Oilers are in desperation mode, they need a BIG move right now.


3.) 30 Jan 2021 01:19:09
@chirp I don’t think CLB would trade Werenski or Jones. Their blue line doesn’t look as good as it did. I can’t see Columbus having the right pieces to send back to EDM


4.) 30 Jan 2021 01:33:40
RNH and a first only starts the convo Chirp. Jones is worth just as much as Victor Herman, I’d say he could fetch the equivalent of 3 top 10 pick. So like let’s say :

Edm:RNH, Broberg, Yamamoto

Clb:Jones

I know that a lot to give but even then I’m not sure Jarmoo does it for Jones, but he should for Werenski. Broberg is not a guarantee.


5.) 09 Feb 2021 14:36:02
As a fellow Oilers fan, I think you’re off on some of your assessment there.


6.) 09 Feb 2021 14:36:30
Lmao. Way too much for Jones. He’s so overratted now.


 

 

29 Oct 2020 12:41:13
EDM;
2022 6th round pick (OTT)

OTT;
Chiasson
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EDM;
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
2022 4th round pick (VGK)

DET;
Larsson
Khaira
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EDM;
DeBrusk
2021 5th round pick (BOS)

BOS;
Nurse
2021 6th round pick (PIT)
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EDM;
Dunn

STL;
Lagesson
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
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Sign;
DeBrusk 2yrs @ $3.5M
Dunn 2yrs @ $3M
Vatanen 1yr @ $3M
Kahun 1yr @$1.5M
Bowey 1yr @ $850K
====================

Lines;
DeBrusk - McDavid - Yamamoto
RNH - Draisaitl - Kahun
Kassian - Turris - Puljujarvi
Neal - Haas - Archibald

Dunn - Barrie
Vatanen - Bear
Jones - Russell

oil10

1.) 01 Nov 2020 11:20:26
Very unrealistic pro-Oiler trades.


2.) 02 Nov 2020 17:57:46
Not really island jet. Nurse > Debrusk. Chaisson for a 6th could happen who really knows. Larsson and Khaira are worth a 2nd and 4th I’d say. Probably not to Detroit and no salary coming back though. Lagesson should be a young cheap solid bottom pair guy but the 2nd probably isn’t enough for Dunn though.


3.) 04 Nov 2020 07:32:12
Chiasson is worth more than a 6th. Mid-3rd probably. Maybe more depending on the team and time of year.


4.) 05 Nov 2020 16:00:10
You think with his cap hit? 2.1M isn’t a lot but it’s an overpayment in today’s cap. Will he even be in the lineup?


 

 

 

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20 Apr 2021 17:30:42
NotACasual - Barrie has been great but Hamilton is Bigger and can defend better with also putting up the points. IMO he is a much better player. Oilers need more size in their line up.

Websjac - If that's the case, then sign Hamilton to 5yrs @ $8M - $8.5M.

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07 Apr 2021 19:02:09
Websjac - Yes a lot of trades.

I think the first one with VAN gives EDM a solid 2C to allow McD and Drai to stay on the top line. They are crazy good together so would be great if we had a solid 2nd line so they could stay together. And I think Horvat and Pearson would make the 2nd line solid. VAN gets a solid player in RNH (Oilers won't give the $ he wants) but VAN could and then a solid player who is just getting better in Pools.

The CBJ trade maybe EDM give up the 2022 2nd and then the Dal trade changes to a 3rd.

IMO, these trades make the Oilers Bigger and a bit Grittier. The types of players that they are missing. And a Goalie that they have needed for so long.

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27 Jan 2021 18:17:05
Well Vegas would be saving about $2M this year and cause Larsson is UFA after this season, Vegas then saves just over $6M next year. So it helps their tight cap. So to me this trade would help both teams.

Buffalo takes back a bit more salary ($1.750M) to get the better goalie out of the 2. Guess the Oilers could retain a bit to help but then the pick would come off.

Then the CBJ trade does favors the Oilers more but could still work.

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16 Oct 2020 16:28:51
Well Vegas is saving $3.5M in that trade. But if they want to save more they could then only retain $1M on Martinez. That way Vegas is saving $4.5M .

I think Russell could get a 4th or a 5th round pick. He does have a cap hit of $4M but is only owed like $1.5M . So that is big for a club wanting to save actual money.

The trade with LA works cause they have that extra 2nd round pick. The Oilers trade Larsson to free up cap space.

Losing Nurse works with what is being brought back. DeBrusk is the LW that is needed and Grzelcyk will take up the slack that is gone with Nurse. But the Oilers have Barrie and Bear that will help major on the D.

Oilers NEED that upgrade in net and the help on LW. And the added pieces on the D will help with the loss of Nurse, Larsson and Klefbom (on LTIR) . But still keeps it open if Klefbom returns the following year.

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16 Sep 2020 18:13:44
I seen the same rumor . but there was a correction I seen.

EDM: OEL, Grabner

ARI: Nurse, Kassian, 2021 1st, prospect.

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