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02 May 2021 09:35:36

Mtl:Toffoli,2rd 2021


1.) 02 May 2021 12:27:38
No from Montreal. Monahan is a floater, Toffoli can actually score goals.

2.) 02 May 2021 16:55:07
Make it Gaudreau instead of Monahan.

3.) 02 May 2021 17:50:28
Adding to that.

If the Flames were to trade Monahan they'd need to get a center in return. Backlund can go back to centering the 2nd line but they'd need another center too, preferably a young one with potential to take over as 2C in a few years.

On the Canadians that'd be Kotkaniemi. Danault is a decent 3C but he's never going to be a 2C and he's a UFA this summer anyhow. Whichever team is willing to pay him the most likely winds up with him next year.

The Flames would probably consider Toffoli + Kotkaniemi for Monahan but the Habs have such high hopes for him they'd almost certainly balk at trading him.

4.) 02 May 2021 19:13:21
Kotekneimi was drafted 3rd overall 2 years ago. The habs aren’t trading him for anyone on the flames outside of Tkachuk and MAYBE Lindholm.

5.) 03 May 2021 00:17:32
I think I said this on the last post, but trading an emerging player who has great chemistry with your young players (specifically Suzuki who has looked amazing) is exactly how you lose your job as a GM. Toffoli will 100% be a Hab next year no matter how tempting it may be to sell high.

6.) 03 May 2021 17:01:15
@Websjac Who said anything about Suzuki?

7.) 04 May 2021 02:19:59
MoxNix, Suzuki has had a career year playing on a line with Toffoli. I’m saying Toffoli has made Suzuki a better player.

8.) 04 May 2021 15:48:48
I got it shortly after typing that. I have to say they did look good together on that goal last night.

9.) 04 May 2021 16:30:41
Can't read too much into it but according to Twitter Habs practice this morning had these lines:

Anderson – Danault – Caufield
Toffoli – Suzuki – Armia
Frolik – Staal – Perry
Kotkaniemi – Evans — Lehkonen

Danault centering the first line, Suzuki the second and Kotkaniemi playing wing on the fourth line.

10.) 04 May 2021 18:11:26
Id say the 4th line you have listed is actually the 3rd., but who knows.
I haven't been impressed with Staal this year, but maybe In the playoffs he will be better, he doesn't have the speed and skill anymore to keep up IMO. Perry might be slow, but he is still crafty with the puck, and his net front presence is very valuable.
And I was really liking Evans with Caufield.
Hopefully when some of the injured players come back, they keep Toffoli, Suzuki and Armia together. Armia has looked really good with those 2 .

Not sure why KK would be demoted, I thought he was playing a good physical game .

11.) 04 May 2021 19:54:18
These are the lines that I see listed.

Anderson - Danault - Caufield
Toffoli - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Evans
Frolik - Staal - Perry

Edmundson - Petry
Kulak - Chiarot
Romanov - Merrill


12.) 04 May 2021 21:22:22
@Thunder_Turkey I saw that too in one place, but most places are listing the lineup I posted.

I'd guess they tried both lineups at different times during the practice. Like I said in the first place we can't read too much into it yet.

@sosahabs regarding which is 3rd/ 4th line I was thinking the same thing. I just cut and pasted what I found on Twitter, TSN and a couple other placese.



28 Apr 2021 23:57:00
Pittsburg: Rodrigues

Toronto: Kerfoot,Robertson

Leafs gets a hometown boy who is in the mood of a Phillip Danault as a solid two way center. Pittsburgh gets a solid B level prospect and a cap dump.


1.) 29 Apr 2021 05:27:01
The leafs best prospect and a 4th line C the leafs got in the Kappenen deal but let walk. Obviously this is a troll. Robertson>>>Caufield in every way.

2.) 29 Apr 2021 06:07:05
Just another bogus claim to add to your pile nylander. going to be some more easy pickings in the very near future.

3.) 29 Apr 2021 10:50:53
There is a reason why the leafs didn’t send a younger Nick Robinson to the world juniors this year where he dominated last year but Caufield was there looking invisible as a ghost.

4.) 29 Apr 2021 10:55:33
If you knew literally anything about hockey habby you’d know that Robertson is easily the current steal of the 2019 draft and is a lot further ahead of Caufield.

5.) 29 Apr 2021 13:47:02
That’s some dank, sticky homerism you’re smoking there Nylander.

6.) 29 Apr 2021 15:30:55
He had 5 points in the whole tournament lol. that’s what you consider dominating? These type of post only further prove how big of a homer you are. Didn’t laine and puljujarvi dominate the wjc one year? Does that mean they are better then matthews and mcdavid?

7.) 29 Apr 2021 15:48:45
Huge no from Toronto

8.) 29 Apr 2021 18:59:10
Didn’t Mathews and McDavid dominate the world juniors too lmao. But anyway as a younger player then Caufield Nick Robertson became the youngest player in leafs history to play a playoff game. Caufield didn’t play for Montreal ( a weaker team ) because he wasn’t good enough. Maybe if you actually watched Robertson play you’d acknowledge what I’m saying is correct but clearly you haven’t so maybe take a hour or two to watch him play so you can see he is the leafs best prospect and far better then Caufield ( who played 2nd line on WJC team being much older while Robertson being one of the youngest players on the team played 1st line. )

9.) 29 Apr 2021 19:30:19
@Nylander World Juniors aren’t everything. MacKinnon had 1 point in 6 games in 2013, yet is widely considered top 3.
Robertson is promising but not better than Caufield, at least for now.

10.) 29 Apr 2021 20:14:20
1st off cole Canfield was ineligible to play last year in the playoffs as he was committed to Wisconsin and didn’t have an nhl contract. if you literally knew anything about hockey you would know this. also the year matthew’s dominated the WJc was the same year pulujarvi and laine were better still. The rest of your post is just too ridiculous to even waste replying to.

11.) 30 Apr 2021 02:02:53
Your wrong Coke Caufield was eligible to sign a contract and play in the playoffs but he wasn’t good enough to earn a contract and instead he was sent back to Wisconsin where he did really well. Not 55 goals well like Robertson put up in his d+1 season but still pretty good.

12.) 30 Apr 2021 09:05:51
I’m going to laugh in a few years if Robertson is placed on waivers because he is an expendable bottom 6 player. Not saying it will happen but it’s far more probable that him becoming better then Caufield.

13.) 30 Apr 2021 13:29:52
He already is better then Caufield LMAO any analyst would agree.

14.) 30 Apr 2021 14:08:37
Go to bed nylander. you need rest. Come back when your prediction of marner having a 150 point season comes true.

15.) 30 Apr 2021 14:37:03
Caulfield and Robertson are both promising prospects. That’s about it. Nobody has a crystal ball with certainty of who will be better. Nylander if you toned down the rhetoric maybe you’d get taken seriously. You act like this kid is the second coming. he’s got like 1 point in six games. Let him develop and maybe don’t place unrealistic expectations on the shoulders of a 19 year old kid.

16.) 30 Apr 2021 15:32:41
I said 120 not 150.

17.) 01 May 2021 15:42:45
Caufield will be and is already on another different tear then Robertson.

Caufield=A prospect

Robertson=B prospect.

18.) 02 May 2021 16:21:59
Go look up NHL prospect rankings a 19 year old with NHL playoff experience is not a b prospect. If the leafs ever traded Robertson for Caufield fans would storm Dubas’s house. Caufield is a soft perimeter goal scorer while Robertson is Gallegar with a scoring touch.

19.) 02 May 2021 21:18:40
Are you finished now nylander? Or do you want to dig that hole a little deeper.

20.) 04 May 2021 16:05:36
Comparing Robertson to Gallagher. LOL

Caufield > than Robertson but he's really small. So far all he's done is score a couple goals in 3on3 overtime and have a few good chances in 5on5 that he didn't finish on.

We'll have to wait and see how he performs in the playoffs when there is no 3on3 and the refs put the whistles in their pockets.



28 Apr 2021 21:29:58

Toronto: Kerfoot, Robertson

Toronto saves about 1 million and upgrades the third line center position by a decent amount. Anaheim gets a B level prospect for taking more salary and the lesser player. Points production not considered in this trade since multiple factors makes it not comparable from that side imo.


1.) 29 Apr 2021 05:27:57
Byron and Caufield for Heinen?

2.) 29 Apr 2021 15:48:34
Can’t see Toronto taking this

3.) 29 Apr 2021 15:54:37
You have to consider the source Nylander. Habby and Sosa are the only respectable hab fans on this site. Sorry if I missed anyone but Anderson and Balsam are trolls.

4.) 29 Apr 2021 20:11:37
I dunno about me, but thanks Toronto17. don't forget about Thunder Turkey though. he's not biased and has good opinions.

As for this trade . JAnderson. why would Toronto do this?

And Leafs fans, what's all the hate with Kerfoot? Is it his salary?

5.) 30 Apr 2021 02:05:07
I explained it earlier. Basically he’s the only forward besides Mathews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares making over 3 million. He’s not overpayed but the leafs are better served with a cheaper player.

6.) 30 Apr 2021 06:15:55
Yes, Kerfoot is the mid paid player that would go before anyone is else. He’s replaceable but not a bad player at all. Topshelf explained it the other day as well. No hate, just business.

7.) 30 Apr 2021 09:07:48
Toronto I can be a respectable Hab fan, but Nylander is asking for it, so I am just delivering the goods!

8.) 30 Apr 2021 16:28:05
I apologize Anderson. I thought you were mostly just a leaf basher and on your high horse about the habs. I think it started when you were saying that Montreal is the team to beat, as well as the leafs trading their 1st for Foligno. That’s my problem because it’s just your opinion. No apologies to Balsam, he’s been the biggest troll bashing the leafs for years. I love it when you guys give it to Nylander. I don’t care what team anyone cheers for, no need to be a d *ck. My biggest issue with people is judging a player by the jersey they wear.



23 Apr 2021 21:09:33


Purely value wise not an actual proposal. I'm just curious to see how far these two are on the value side of things.


1.) 24 Apr 2021 17:44:41
Add Caufield and Edmonton still declines Lmao Broberg is looking like a sure thing top 4 guy.

2.) 24 Apr 2021 21:22:31
So is norlinder.

3.) 25 Apr 2021 03:06:28
Since when do 8th overalls get traded for 64th overall. There’s a reason they were 56 spots apart.

4.) 25 Apr 2021 20:24:37
Yeah I know. there has never been a player drafted in the 2nd round that turned out to be better then half of the players drafted the same year in the first round. oh wait.

5.) 26 Apr 2021 16:08:04
What’s special about Norlinder. Isn’t he depth dman in Europe? I don’t know much about him I’ll admit.

6.) 26 Apr 2021 21:05:40
He’s a highly skilled offensive dman. he was forced to focus more on the defensive side this year and by the time the playoffs rolled around he was the best player on his team. his skating passing vision and awareness shills are all elite combine that with a real good shot from the point and the improvements he made defensively this year I can see him being ready for the nhl as early as next season although I think he stays over seas for one more year,
That being said I really like Broberg as well and had him ranked in the top 10 of his draft and I believe he is a can't miss prospect. But the difference in value of the two now should not be confused by the difference in where they both were selected. it’s a lot closer then that now.

7.) 26 Apr 2021 23:16:46
Montreal definitely doesn’t add arguably the best prospect in the world right now to make up the difference.



21 Apr 2021 23:29:07
Nsh:Johansson,Fabbro, Ellis

Mtl:Weber, Caufield, Byron





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08 Apr 2021 02:48:41
After watching tonight game, I think we can all agree Montreal only really dominated the second period and was mediocre most of the first and second period. Allen played very well and is not to blame at all. Jack Campbell is better then I thought and Galchenyuk was invisible for most of the game like in Montreal. I don't think Montreal sucked tonight, they for sure can do better on power plays tho. Go Habs Go!


1.) 08 Apr 2021 04:34:27
I actually thought Galchenyuk looked dangerous at times.
Habs aalways seem to play slower when they play the Leafs. I don't know what it is. maybe over cautious?
Oh well, maybe next time.

2.) 08 Apr 2021 05:43:57
Galchenyuk played good, but again, whatever makes you feel better.

3.) 08 Apr 2021 05:56:04
Galchenyuk made a few flashy moves but nothing showed up on the score sheet so yeah pretty much like he was when he was with Montreal. a fluke goal by Toronto again was the difference. Overall for a Habs leafs game it was a total bore fest. Montreal didn’t play physical enough to win. I guess they were nervous after that early 5 on 3 pp Toronto was given.

4.) 08 Apr 2021 14:31:36
High danger chances at 5v5 were 14-5 for the leafs last night so fluke goal or not that’s not very competitive.

5.) 08 Apr 2021 17:36:58
6 of them came on the 5 on 3 power play they seem to get every game.

6.) 08 Apr 2021 19:12:38
For some reason I doubt that 6 of Toronto’s 14 five on five high danger chances came on a 5 on 3 but if you have problems with how many power plays the leafs got maybe the habs should sign some more players who can keep up with their speed instead of focusing on “not playing physical enough to win” lollllll.

7.) 08 Apr 2021 19:22:44
Why so bitter habby? It’s just a game.

8.) 08 Apr 2021 22:31:50
I just had to get the 5 on 3 power play they get every time in there lol. usually it’s late in 3rd period though.

9.) 09 Apr 2021 05:48:08
I didn’t realize the leafs get so many 5 on 3 power plays. This site is going to get ugly come playoff time, lol.



06 Apr 2021 21:30:34
A comment was made on this site that the Leafs have a ridiculous depth. I actually not only disagree but I believe it's one of their weakest attributes if you compare it to the best teams in the NHL. I have said multiple times I think Leafs are going to loose in the first round of the playoffs and that is one of the reason why. If anybody has the time to prove me wrong and compare the Leafs depth to other teams, that would be great.


1.) 06 Apr 2021 22:07:51
I really hope they make it past the first. Otherwise it’s the Love Guru Curse lol.

2.) 06 Apr 2021 22:18:22
I mean, its not the best depth in the league, I'd give that to Tampa or Colorado. But I do think Toronto's depth is better than credited. If I'm ranking the forwards by tiers:

Matthews/ Marner
Tavares/ Nylander
Kerfoot/ Spezza
Mikheyev/ Galchenyuk/ Thornton
Engvall/ Simmonds

The AHL team has Nick Robertson, who isn't all that @Nylander makes him out to be, but has the talent to be a contributor if there were less players in front of him. He's a damn good 13th forward to have imo.

On top of Robertson, Brooks is a fine #1 AHL center, Joey Anderson and Denis Malgin have both played good NHL minutes (Anderson 13 points in 53 NHL games on NJ, Malgin has had 12-16-22 point years) . Nic Petan's played NHL minutes and is a good call-up guy, Barabanov hasn't done anything but is also fine as the what, 17th forward? Then you go down the rabbit hole of prospects + Kenny Agostino and Tyler Gaudet, but at that point your at the what, 20th forwards on the depth chart?

On top of this, Travis Boyd (8 in 20) and Jimmy Vesey (6 in 30) were waiver claims, and hell, Vesey's played second line minutes for Vancouver. Sure, that's only Vancouver, but he's a fourth liner/ 13th forward on a lot of teams, and same with Boyd.

On the defensive side of the puck, the top6 is the top6, with Mo/ Muzz/ Brodie/ Holl rounding out a much better top4 than years past, with Dermott and Bogo being a steady bottom pair - they give basically zero offence, but are defensively sound enough unlike Jake Gardiner, Nikita Zaitsev and Cody Ceci of years past, which is all you need out of your bottom pair.

The next two guys are your 'top prospects' Rasmus Sandin and Timothy Liljegren, both of whom are solid 7th and 8th options on an NHL team - Sandin especially could/ should be a top6 guy but is blocked by the guys in front of him. After that it certainly thins out, but Kivihalme is nearly a PPG AHL dman, and Calle Rosen is a good enough 9th dman, is he not? On top of all of this, Mikko Lehtonen was traded to give him a chance, and he's playing top6 minutes on Columbus right now.

The goaltending is suspect, yes, but having Fred-Campbell, with Hutch who is a (surprisingly this year) average 3rd string guy, with VV as the fourth string, is still decent enough, although I'd love to get a guy like Linus Ullmark or so. Even then, Aaron Dell was a leaf at season start, but was claimed off of waivers by Jersey.

Sure, this isn't levels of Saad-Compher-Nichuskin third lines, but the Leafs depth throughout the NHL and AHL Farm systems is definitely not a slouch, and when you have your top guys eating such a big chunk of the cap, having guys like Spezz/ Jumbo on minimums, Robertson on his ELC, Malgin on loan, Barabanov on the taxi squad, Joey Anderson on the Marlies, Sandin/ Lilj as 7/ 8 dmen, it's definitely a nice bonus. That's why the Leafs are trying to package Kerfoot (salary in = salary out) to bolster their forward core, adding another forward at the same tier as Hyman or so. Personally, I'd like to keep Kerfoot and use the 2.3 million available on a guy like Miles Wood or Alex Iafallo, but we shall see.

3.) 06 Apr 2021 23:01:48
I don't nessesarily think they will lose the first round. , have a feeling its against the Habs, so i really hope they do.
There are deffenitley teams that's have more depth. I think the Habs actually have more overall depth, but not nearly the top end talent the Leafs have.
In a normal year, I think that they get bounced in 2nd. this year, they could jus get on a roll and make it. If Campbell can keep playing like a top goalie, and Galchenyuk plays the way he can. then they actually have pretty good depth.
I don't know if they are TB good, hit this team could get in a roll. and who knows. sure hope not though! 😝😝.

4.) 06 Apr 2021 23:55:30
Considering the leafs lose in the first round every year, don’t think of yourself as a hockey genius if it happens. I think their depth is comparable to most teams. We know Montreal is the best built team and have the most depth. It seems the leafs are in your head.

5.) 07 Apr 2021 04:16:06
I never said they were the best built.

6.) 07 Apr 2021 09:17:30
You don’t have to say it Sosa. They are the best built in the north and a debate can be made for the whole NHL.

7.) 07 Apr 2021 10:50:26
And also,  « if Campbell keeps playing like a top goalie and Galchenyuk play the way he can » are two massive maybes. Leafs don’t have a proven solid number #1 goalie and have a terrible bottom 6 and bottom pairings defensemens. Yes the main guys are great but they also don’t play with heart. All of that adds up to a great regular season team, nothing more.

8.) 07 Apr 2021 12:25:02
The bottom pairing is solid Dermott is probably one of the best number 5 dman In the game he could easily fill in top 4 great shutdown dman and solid on breakout. Never see him make a mistake. Bogosian is also pretty good one a cup with Tampa while spending time on hedman pairing.

9.) 07 Apr 2021 12:30:20
I think there are a few other teams that are deeper than the Habs., I guess playoffs will tell the true story. ( Habs still need to make those however, nothing is given)
I'm one of the biggest Leaf haters out there, however, I think they are much better than your giving them credit for as far as depth.

Can any Leafs fan tell me what happened to Freddie Andersen? Seemed like not long ago he was a top tier goalie in the game.?

10.) 07 Apr 2021 13:13:28
I think if you look at Montreal they’re going to be scary in the playoffs. Their team is built for the playoffs, I don’t like hating on Canadian teams cause we need one of them to bring home a cup. My team is far far away from a playoff spot, hopefully Montreal, Toronto or Edmonton can win the Cup for Canada.

11.) 07 Apr 2021 17:42:29

On Freddie, he's been off every since last years ASG. He got an injury just after I think, and we rushed him back, probably only aggravating the injury further. He got the summer off after a pretty average (nothing spectacular) series against CBJ, started this year slowly (as he always does in the first month), got going a little bit in February, but got an injury while Campbell was already injured (forcing Hutch as the starter for a stretch of 2-3 games), so we again rushed him back. The injury was probably the same one from last year, so reaggravating it without allowing him to rest caused his play to tailspin as was the case before Campbell came back. Once Campbell was cleared, we've basically had an MIA Freddie, which either means a) cap shenanigan's or b) its an injury that actually needs a good bit of time for rest/ recovery. Either way, injured Fred wasn't good at all, and hence why he's been the scapegoat of the Leafs season.

12.) 07 Apr 2021 19:31:29
Thanks TSS. good explanation as to why . its to bad for the Leafs. when he is on his game, he is a top goalie IMO.

13.) 07 Apr 2021 19:34:49
I was talking to Anderson Sosa.

14.) 07 Apr 2021 20:01:03
Lol. sorry Toronto17.

15.) 07 Apr 2021 23:38:26
No problem Sosa. I said months ago that I liked what Montreal has done. They do have a good mix of heart and talent. Are they the team to beat though when there are 3 other good teams involved? Who knows? As far as what Anderson says about the leaf team, it goes both ways. If Toffoli or Anderson don’t score at this pace, there could be problems. It’s the same for any team, the leafs just happen to have a history of choking.

16.) 08 Apr 2021 14:48:18
Well Jason Spezza the 3rd/ 4th liner the Leafs are paying $0.7 mln has about the same points as Montreal’s top line winger Anderson who makes $5.5 mln so that’s a pretty good start. I’d take the Leafs bottom six all day as they are way more cost effective and have been good at shutting down other team’s top lines (even teams with actual top line talent like Edmonton) which frees up the necessary cap space for all of their elite talent players

Do the Leafs have an actual number 1 goalie? Maybe, maybe not but Campbell has been absolutely incredible and other than Winnipeg/ Hellybuck i’m not sure which North division team that’s playoff-bound has a true number one and if you’re going to suggest Carey Price and his boat anchor contract let me finish eating first so I don’t choke while laughing.

17.) 09 Apr 2021 05:33:25
Why not compare toffoli with Tavares or Corey oerry with kerfoot?

18.) 09 Apr 2021 10:17:36
Why not be even more arbitrary and make bogus unfounded claims about disproportionate power play times? Grrrrr stoopid laffs getting to play 5 on 3 all season.

19.) 09 Apr 2021 23:10:32
What was your name before blue? you sound a lot like someone else who use roam these parts.

20.) 10 Apr 2021 17:12:17




20 Feb 2021 23:45:57
If Petry is out with his injuries for a few weeks, should Montreal consider acquiring Tony Deangelo and try to get his value up to trade him once Petry is back?


1.) 20 Feb 2021 23:59:08
Nah. we will survive. no panick. bring in Kalak, call up Oullete. jus weather the storm.

2.) 01 Mar 2021 12:56:39
Deangleo is a lightning rod. Regardless of how you feel about him and his opinions, they did and still will burden any team that picks him up. So a team would have to really question if it’s worth helping out their back end to pick up a player with his notoriety.

I don’t see any team taking him on.
I think he will be in the KHL from next season on.




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02 May 2021 09:07:56
I agree that Montreal needs a center but not Backlund. We need production. Someone who is a lock for 50-60+ point minimum.




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01 May 2021 15:42:45
Caufield will be and is already on another different tear then Robertson.

Caufield=A prospect

Robertson=B prospect.




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30 Apr 2021 09:07:48
Toronto I can be a respectable Hab fan, but Nylander is asking for it, so I am just delivering the goods!




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30 Apr 2021 09:05:51
I’m going to laugh in a few years if Robertson is placed on waivers because he is an expendable bottom 6 player. Not saying it will happen but it’s far more probable that him becoming better then Caufield.




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19 Apr 2021 20:38:09
Nylander the self proclaim genius, could you explain to me how Ryan Strome who has 44 point in 45 games this year has no value?





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