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22 Jan 2020 18:51:29
To TOR: Manson, Miller and Groulx

To ANA: Dermott, Kapanen, and Ceci

Manson provides a true pairing for Rielly, Miller waves his NTC, Groulx provides some future Centre depth

Anaheim gets good young players in Dermott and Kapanen for the rebuild and can afford the Ceci deal with their LTIR


1.) 22 Jan 2020 21:04:25
Manson is a HUGE risk for the leafs, he is just coming off an injury, he is having one of the worst seasons of his career, and his contract has a bit too much term for my liking. IMO a 1 for 1 trade of Ceci for Manson is the only thing Dubas should accept, maybe the leafs throw in a prospect or 3rd or something.

No chance the leafs trade Dermott with Reilly and Muzzin out, so stop with that.

Johnsson will get traded over Kapanen because Kapanen can play PK and PP, and Johnsson looks like he needs a fresh start.

2.) 22 Jan 2020 21:33:15
Its amazing the number of people here that don't take into consideration that players have lives outside of hockey that will limit their movement around the league the older they get. You're not going to convince a 39 year old player to move across coast and be apart from his wife for 5-6 months just to do the Maple Leafs a favor.

Stop proposing Miller is going to waive his clause to go to Toronto, its never going to happen.

3.) 22 jan 2020 23:27:07
teaford reported miller would "like to [continue] his career and possibly re-sign with the ducks" for one more year, despite the team's slide toward the bottom of the western conference. miller first signed a two-year contract with anaheim in 2017, in part to be closer to his wife, actress noreen dewulf.

in other words: miller. wont. waive. his. no. trade. clause. because. he. likes. living. closer. to. la. where. his. wife. works.

ryan miller no trade

4.) 22 Jan 2020 23:27:24
LilTuzziBert unless you know Ryan Miller personally you really are only guessing that he won't wave his NTC, you seem so convinced he won't wave it but it all honesty every player plays to win a championship no matter what sport it is and if he has a chance why wouldn't he wave it, he can resign in Anaheim after this year or just retire to.

5.) 23 Jan 2020 00:43:08
Ceci for Manson? Ceci is just the garbage to throw in to shed salary. Anaheim would have very little interest in him. I agree taking dermott makes little sense right now, what about ceci, a 3rd, and kapanen for Manson and Miller?

Assuming if course liltuzzibert allows Miller the option of waiving his NTC. I'm sure he likes Anaheim, he may want to play real hockey for 2 months.

6.) 23 Jan 2020 01:59:06
I agree most players would waive for a chance at the cup. However, the leafs are not contenders.

7.) 23 Jan 2020 07:05:28
Wow, you people are responding to the Ryan Miller “Aka I am a back up goalie now” part of this trade.

8.) 23 Jan 2020 18:28:08
Sure, keeping smoking that Tokyo smoke in Toronto and thinking Miller is open to being traded lol.

Theres a half dozen backups available through trade right now, Ryan Miller isn't one of them.



25 Jun 2019 05:03:11
To EDM: Zaitsev ($4.5 mill) and Brown ($2.1 mill)

TO TOR: Puljujarvi (RFA), Benning ($1.9 mill) and Manning ($2.25 mill)

Oilers get a second pair RD and someone who can play up and down in the lineup.

Leafs get a young RW that needs new scenery, and a third pairing RD. Leafs put Manning on waivers or bury his contract in the AHL


1.) 25 Jun 2019 09:34:50
Good post

2.) 25 Jun 2019 11:17:28
Nothing there makes the Oilers consider taking Zaitsevs contract or give up Puljujarvi.

3.) 25 Jun 2019 16:26:13
Change benning to Russel then maybe.



10 Feb 2019 20:46:12
There have been a lot of similar trades to this one but here we go...

TO CAR: Kapanen
To TOR: Pesce

To BUF: Zaitsev
To TOR: 3rd rounder

To STL: 4th Rounder (STL's that the TOR owns)
To TOR: Maroon

Seen a lot of Pesce + Ferland deals to the Leafs for Kapanen + Zaitsev but I do not think the Leafs have the additional pieces that Carolina would want to pull it off. Kapanen has been rumoured to CAR for a long time and could be the final push for a playoff spot.

Buffalo in need of right side defensive upgrades and have the cap space. I am sure the Leafs would hate to trade in the division but if Pesce is going to come in they have to dump that contract

Maroon is not playing well this year but perhaps a team change will spark a resurgence. May not be as good as Ferland but comes at a much cheaper price


1.) 10 Feb 2019 21:34:42
So before wasn’t the rumor Pesce for Nylander? So no from Carolina.
Huge no from Buffalo, they won’t take that contract in order to “upgrade” (I have no clue how their d corps is) their right side defense I’m sure they can get other options.
If Toronto can get Maroon for a 4th they should take it.

2.) 10 Feb 2019 22:36:21
CAR would ask for more for Pesce IMO, maybe Kapanen and another prospect or a pick. BUF won't take on Zaitsev's contract without more incentive to the deal, especially as they inch closer and closer to contending for a playoff spot. The 3rd trade I can see working out though.

3.) 11 Feb 2019 01:59:54
HAs been reported buf interested in zaitsev but leafs would have to eat some money.

4.) 11 Feb 2019 03:48:11
Only Charelli would have traded Nylander for Pesce.



30 Nov 2018 15:53:40
30 hrs left in this soap opera...

To TOR: Sandheim, Simmonds, Farabee

To PHI: Nylander, Holl, Rosen and a conditional 3rd (Becomes a 2nd if Simmonds re-signs)


1.) 30 Nov 2018 21:55:19
The leafs can’t afford to resign Simmonds. I would be very interested in a trade along the lines of Sanheim and Simmonds for Nylander. The leafs have the money this year for Simmonds and he’s exactly the type of player the leafs need. Is Sanheim plus half a year of Simmonds fair value for Nylander, I’m not sure. Good post though.

2.) 01 Dec 2018 04:02:50
Appears at first glance to be underwhelming return for Nylander: a pending UFA that won’t be re-signed, a possible top 4 defenseman who would likely be 3rd pairing on Leafs behind Rielly and Dermott, and a highly rated prospect player that is at least three years away from making the NHL.

But then you realize that the signing deadline is like maybe 12 hours away, and this trade gives us a physical top line RW that replaces Nylander for the duration of the season, a high quality defensive prospect that replaces Gardiner next year, and a future prospect forward projected to be top 6.

We get something for this year, something for next year, and something to come in the year following that. A constant influx of new talent. And all for a guy that we don’t need and isn’t even playing.



25 Jun 2018 18:38:00
To TOR: Justin Faulk and Nicolas Roy

TO CAR: Jake Gardiner, Garrett Sparks, and Jeremy Bracco

Toronto needs some top RD help and some centre depth in the organization. Dermott can play second pairing, while Sandin will be the final piece on the left side in a few years.

Carolina needs some immediate LD help with Hanifin gone as Bean needs some AHL time. Sparks gives them a great goalie prospect that can play this year and the organization could really use a puck distributing RW in Bracco as they do have some good left shot scorers coming up in the system (Kuokkannen, Foegele, Saarela).

A lot of Gardiner haters out there but I will remind you that he was 6th in even strength points for a D man and has outscored Faulk the last two years in a row. He only has one year left until UFA, while Faulk has two.

Gardiner - Hamilton
Slavin - Pesce
Fleury - van Riemsdyk

Rielly - Faulk
Dermott - Zaitsev
Rosen/Borgman - Hainsey


1.) 25 Jun 2018 18:52:32
Justin Faulk will go for a top end forward, d-man or a #1 draft pick. I don't believe that Carolina will want a combination of lesser roster players and b prospects.

2.) 25 Jun 2018 20:41:26
Faulk is so overrated he’ll probably end the season as a healthy scratch for the Canes he’s terrible defensively and the offense hasn’t been there for a couple years now. Hamilton and Pesce are both above him on the depth chart Gardiner for him straight up is a no from leafs.

3.) 25 Jun 2018 21:07:24
Lots of different views on Faulk on this site. I’m guessing his true value is somewhere in the middle? I haven’t seen him play too much.

4.) 25 Jun 2018 22:32:10
No vb just hates Faulk for whatever reason idk why lol.

5.) 26 Jun 2018 01:20:38
He can’t be worth that much if every canes fan wants him out.




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27 Jun 2017 00:50:59
I don't believe that the Top young pairing RHD that Leaf fans have been begging for exists in the market right now but with the success of past draft it no longer matters. Picking up Liljegren and Rasanen fills some major holes in the system but they will need some time (probably 2 and 4 years respectively). The Leafs need to pick up a D man that can fill the gap


To TOR: Demers ($500,000 retained per) and 2018 PHX 2nd round

This solves problems for both teams. Florida is desperate for some scoring wingers after losing Smith and Marchessault. Leafs have to find a player to pair with Rielly so that he can further his development and I think Demers could be that guy. His contract lasts four more years so it fits the Leafs development timeline


1.) 27 Jun 2017 12:39:09
Don't think Florida is too desperate considering they could have easily protected those guys/ not given up two of them for nothing.



12 Jun 2017 20:22:29
Before the craziness of this week begins, I just want to list my ideal three weeks for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Trade #1

To TOR: Josh Manson, Clayton Stoner ($3.25 mill cap dump), and Max Jones

To ANA: JVR (50% retained), Andreas Johnsson, Tobias Lindberg

Trade #2

To TOR: Niemi ($4.5 mill), #39th overall

To DAL: Rinat Valiev

Trade # 3 - Draft day scenario IF Liljegren falls to #11

To TOR: #11 overall (Liljegren)

To LA: #17 and Jeremy Bracco (I would only trade Bracco to a Western Conference team)

Leafs draft Liljegren at 11, Oettinger at 39 (or best available G), and Mattheos at 50

Leafs sign Boyle @ 3 years x 2.2 mill
Leafs sign Darren Raddysh at ELC

Once again, this is just my hopes so I imagine I will take a lot of slack for it, though I do not think I have said anything too outlandish


1.) 12 jun 2017 21:53:49
dont trade future all star andreas johnson, i love the guy don't trade him.

2.) 13 Jun 2017 01:10:32
I heard that Ottawa would want to draft Oettinger in the first round.

3.) 13 Jun 2017 01:41:55
Agree with BigZ maybe not star part but rather trade someone else. Hyman?

4.) 13 Jun 2017 02:47:06
I don't know about the first two prospects but I think if they were swapped with the 17th pick it would be closer on the first trade.



21 May 2017 21:46:27
I really think that Carolina needs to make a play for Duchene and they have the D men to pull the trade off before the draft.

To CAR: Matt Duchene

To COL: Jacob Slavin and Jake Bean

Caroline also has three 2nd round picks if they need an additional carrot. Duchene would solidify Carolina's centres moving Rask and Staal to their ideal lines. Hadyn Fleury can move up and take Slavins spot

For Colorado this would completely round out their D core with Slavin pairing with Barrie and Bean with Johnson. Bean and Barrie can run their PP, and Slavin and Johnson provide defensive anchors


1.) 21 May 2017 23:48:10
Take out Bean then it's Fair.

2.) 22 May 2017 05:31:22
No VB. Duchene >> Slavin straight up.



12 May 2016 22:48:50
Alright Leaf fans, not to totally quash the trading up to the top 10 rumours but the Leafs probably do not have the assets to do it. Pittsburg is continuing to win, greatly diminishing the value of their 1st round pick. Leafs are now looking at a bottom four pick and in this draft players from the 25-40 range are all very equal in talent.

Using a chart that was recommended by Elliot Friedman, which looks at the relative value of each pick in the draft I have come up with what it will take for the Leafs to trade up.

The three most likely candidates to trade are MIN, NYI, and FLA as they are all missing their second and third round picks this more (and even more in some cases)

To get the 15th overall from the Wild, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd, Leafs 3rd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st and Leafs 2nd

To get the 19th overall from the Islanders, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st, WAS 2nd and Leafs 3rd

To get the 23rd overall pick from FLA, it will cost: PIT 1st and WAS 2nd

There we have it folks, those are the traded pick value according to that chart. See which one you like best

(To get the values right I made some assumptions like the Pens losing in the Stanley Cup which mean their pick is the 29th and that SJ's 2017 2nd round pick would be around 45, meaning that they squeak in to the playoffs and lose first round)



1.) 13 May 2016 02:01:26
I like the 15th overall idea but we also have JVR, Kappnen, Bozak and Komarov as trade chips.



12 Feb 2016 16:06:52
What about this deal:

To OTT - Drouin
To TB - Chabot

At first glance, this might be a bit of an under payment for Drouin but it's probably the max I would give if I were the Sens. He's a top puck moving d man prospect that TB covets. I think they have moved past trying to get someone who can help them this year.

I have heard other deals like Paul + 1st for Drouin but I feel that is way to much for a projected 2nd liner and/ or possible bust, as Ottawa could draft someone like Keller with their 1st who is a similar player.


1.) 12 Feb 2016 18:18:02
Drouin is a second liner. He's still a projected elite/ superstar talent. Don't kid yourself that because he's throwing a tantrum he's a bust. Could effect his value but it does not effect his skill level.

2.) 12 Feb 2016 18:41:02
Drouin isn't a 2nd liner. If he was he wouldn't be sitting on his couch in Quebec.

3.) 12 Feb 2016 21:00:59
Bud do you follow the Lightning at all? He wasn't getting top 6 minutes in tampa because they have too many top 6 forwards. He was coming odd injury so they sent him down to condition/ get those minutes. Then he made the decision to go public so they couldn't bring him back up and the decision to sit on a couch in Quebec. He currently has the skill to play in the top 6 on most nhl teams that's evident to anyone whose watched him play.




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23 Jan 2020 07:05:28
Wow, you people are responding to the Ryan Miller “Aka I am a back up goalie now” part of this trade.




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11 Feb 2019 03:48:11
Only Charelli would have traded Nylander for Pesce.




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16 Jun 2018 06:11:29
Steal for Zona. Similar ppg but way more goals from Chuck. Who is worse. Bergevin of Chiarelli?




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17 Feb 2018 06:29:12
On the second trade, what if Montreal change the pick to their 2nd rounder?




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09 Oct 2017 22:15:09
He's the exact type of player they would go after but that is a bit too much.





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