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09 May 2019 10:11:52
Tor: Marleau, Bracco, liljegren and 2019 second round pick

Van: Tanev

Toronto frees up almost 2 million in cap and upgrades their D core. Canucks take back Marleau to bring in veteran leadership for the young guys and does Toronto a favour with the cap and receive a draft pick and 2 good prospects for the rebuild.

AO99

1.) 09 May 2019 13:26:23
I think you could remove the pick, because dumping Marleau would cost Bracco and I think Tanevs closer to Lilly by himself.

My biggest issue here is, woukd Marleau waive his NMC to go to Vancouver? Highly doubtful. Unless he goes to SJ or does an Oprik-esque move, I think he's going to want to stay put.


2.) 10 May 2019 05:47:38
And then Leafs can send Mr Tanev to the Robidas Island? Because he is hurt always Tanev, yes. He did not play so very good this year. Maybe he is not so very good anymore? His broken body cannot play hockey now.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 07:49:54
Let’s ignore the cap for a bit. Would this make sense for the leafs and the oilers?

Oilers: Mcdavid

Leafs: Matthews, Nylander and 4 first rounds picks (Years 2020-23)

AO99

1.) 24 Apr 2019 13:44:09
No not at all oilers can keep McDavid.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 14:26:23
I’d like to keep mcdavid to rather than take these guys, atleast mcdavid knows how to win a playoffs series ;) let alone have more assists than Matthews has points lmao.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 14:38:52
Every team in the NHL would want a shot at McD, especially the Leafs, but adding the four 1st round picks is too much.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 15:33:53
4 first rounds defs too much haha.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 17:46:17
Lol Leafs made it in the playoffs and oilers didn’t like what? When Mathews contract is up and he goes to Arizona McDavid will be jumping to go play for his hometown super team that unlike the Oilers can actually make the playoffs VIA UFA.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 18:02:36
Vb i Will bet you 100$ that oilers will be in playoffs next year

They finally fired chairelli, they understand that bottom players isn't good enough

Benson and marody will prob get a chance at 3rd line in oilers.


7.) 24 Apr 2019 18:08:05
thats the dumbest thing you could have ever said vb and you say a ton of dumb stuff. and also since 2010 oilers have 7 playoff wins and leafs only have 8 and we've only made it once to their 3 lol sweet have fun getting bounced first round every year leafs.


8.) 24 Apr 2019 18:21:51
4 1sts isn't to much, at least one of those would be to take nylanders anchor contract, Mathews can't keep healthy and would be really late picks with McDavid on the team.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 21:10:21
The Past dosent matter and any rational person believes that Toronto has a brighter future.


10.) 24 Apr 2019 21:37:37
How much money have you lost making these bets Swechamp?


11.) 24 Apr 2019 21:51:10
Okay so the past doesn't matter (pretty stupid to say it doesn't matter), but i'd still rather not make the playoffs and get a higher draft pick than get eliminated first round lolllll.


12.) 25 Apr 2019 02:21:12
Draisaitl, Nurse & McDavid > Matthews, Marner, Nylander & Rielly.


13.) 25 Apr 2019 17:31:03
I do not think McDavid is worth so much more than Matthews. Is no good trade for Leafs. Not at all.

@Mr. Moneyhands

Is not good trade for Leafs either. Reilly is so very much better than Nurse. Maybe the forward trade is good for Leafs, but for the trade defense is so very not good.


 

 

10 Feb 2019 02:04:56
Press go all in this year

NSH: Fabbro

VAN: Edler (50% retained) and Sutter

NSH takes on just slightly less than 7M in cap and give away 667k to make things work out. Nashville goes all in and have 3 really good left handed D that can play in any situation at any moment and allows hamhuis to be the 7th dman rather than play every game. And Nashville also upgrades they’re 3rd line center who in sutter can be relied to kill penalties and win face offs. Canucks get Nashville’s best or maybe 2nd best prospect but Nashville greatly improves they’re depth for a deep playoff push.

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1.) 10 Feb 2019 05:10:58
As a Canucks fan I’d love this, but I think Nash would want more.


2.) 10 Feb 2019 16:50:16
An injury prone pending UFA and an injury prone overpaid bottom six forward for a highly ranked potential top line defender is not going to happen.


 

 

15 Jan 2019 01:34:35
Edmonton is in search of a winger that can play with Mcdavid

Edm: 2019 second round pick

Van: Goldobin

Goldy is a quick skilled winger that needs motivation to work harder and possibly Hitchcock might be the coach he needs to bring up his intesity.

AO99

1.) 15 Jan 2019 03:12:07
If he needs motivation to work hard oilers don’t want him lol we have enough players like that.


 

 

01 Jan 2019 04:58:42
Accidentally pressed sent on the last part but add in
Philly: couturier, provorov, ghost

Carolina: aho, svechnikov, pesce and Slavin

Dallas, Seguin, heiskanen

Ottawa: Chabot white and tkachuk

Again would any of these hypothetical situations be possible for the oilers to rebuild and get so, entung for arguably the best player in the game.

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1.) 01 Jan 2019 18:00:20
Huge no from Carolina and no from Ottawa. Provorov=Slavin. Aho>Couturier And Svechnikov And Pesce>>>Ghost

Seguin just isn’t a target Ottawa should go after and Chabot is looking like a Karlsson replacement who could very well be the best player in the deal.


 

 

 

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26 Feb 2019 09:25:36
Do you guys think most NHL team records and stats should be wiped from 1969 and before and have only 1970 till present count? Reasoning is before 1970 there wasn’t a huge amount of teams in the league and since that expansion to have many more teams, the league seems harder and more competitive. For example rather than saying the maple leafs have 11 Stanley cups, they really have 0, Canadians rather than having 24, they would have 8. And so on and so forth. I think this would make franchises seem more accurate as these 2 teams have won the most cups when it was a league of 6 teams or so for the longest time.
Just my opinion let me know what you guys think.

AO99

1.) 26 Feb 2019 13:12:30
I understand the point you are trying to make, but your reasoning is flawed. (I'm probably one of few people old enough on this site to offer perspective) . The reason the Leafs and Habs have so many cups is not because there were only six teams back then. If your reasoning was correct, we would expect all of the original six teams to have a bunch of cups -- when in fact, the era was dominated by Montreal and Toronto, followed by Detroit. The Bruins and Rangers never won the cup during the era, and Chicago won only once.

The reason why it was a flawed system was because the rights to players was broken down geographically, not by draft (i. e., if you were a kid growing up playing hockey in Southern Ontario, the Leafs pretty much owned you from day one) . Ditto for Montreal and people growing up in French Canada.

Given that the majority of the best players in the league came from Ontario and Quebec, Toronto and Montreal had "first dibs" on the majority of the best players in the world. If the league had the same rules today, we would in all likelihood see very similar results (although probably to a lesser degree, given how the game has grown in other areas of the world) .


2.) 26 Feb 2019 16:12:45
Those teams stood the test of time and deserve to continue to be recognized for it. look at the teams who have been added by expansion who are not here anymore. Ask your self this who are the 6 less likely teams to fold their franchise? Yeah probably still those 6 teams. And because of those teams the rest of the teams in the league are here.


3.) 26 Feb 2019 16:16:10
Also if there wasn't a salary cap to make it more of an even playing field for most of those expansion teams Montreal Toronto and the rangers especially would probably be after winning a lot more cups.


4.) 26 Feb 2019 18:34:10
Fair points Habby -- without revenue sharing from teams like Montreal, Toronto, the Rangers, etc. a lot of the teams in the league would be bankrupt in a matter of years.


5.) 26 Feb 2019 19:08:34
Exactly unsportsmanlike the reason a lot of these teams exist is because of those older teams. not only with revenue sharing and such but by the fact they helped create a fan base to support those other teams.


6.) 27 Feb 2019 12:02:02
You can’t just erase history but it’ll always be a point of contention. With the Lightning somewhat challenging records people want to asterix it because of OT and loser points, without considering competition, parity, and cap. I’d argue what the Lightning are doing this year is more impressive than the Habs/ Bruins regular seasons in the 60s/ 70s because there’s so much more parity and those teams never had an issue keeping their own players AND going after other teams top players they can’t afford. The reason people would want to split it is because of what you explained earlier, no parity Montreal and Toronto were essentially handed the championship every year the league was set up that they were the only competitive teams. Most leagues kinda reset after a merger as well, NHL didn’t. And ya the league wouldn’t exist without the original teams, but no league anywhere would exist without their original teams lol.


7.) 27 Feb 2019 12:12:31
Erase history?
What are you, American?


8.) 27 Feb 2019 14:48:12
@jbs Montreal and Toronto were not the only good teams in any era they were in and the fact you had to play the teams so often each year made for like playoff game atmosphere every game. Tampa is impressive but I'd like to see which players would still be there if they actually had to pay the taxes teams like Montreal and Toronto do. that lineup wouldn't look exactly like it does now no matter how much You think it would. also the culture and how engaged in their teams at the time people were built a fan base much greater then the city all those teams played in which reached every city of North America. i doubt if Tampa had been an original six team would it have made many headlines. considering they don't now unless they are 1st in the league. and even then they still don't get the publicity of either of those original six.


9.) 28 Feb 2019 12:00:28
They don’t get publicity because they weren’t original 6. NHL is built on a basis that history and legacy are most important and no team outside the original 6 gets much from the league comparatively that’s not even debatable. Chicago gets an outdoor game every year. You would think the league would focus on new and struggling teams to try to build those bases but they don’t, they give all their attention to the original 6. Tax benefit is not nearly as big as you guys think it is, does it exist sure but it’s probably 1 player difference max and it’s a huge risk taking a tax related cut when you could be traded at any time. You will never convince me that teams with exclusive rights to the best players and who are able to resign all their players (and other teams best players) don’t have a much bigger advantage than a tax break for half the games in a season. Tampa also isn’t the only team with no or low state tax but they’re the only ones people complain about because they’re doing well. Again can’t erase history, but things need to be held in context a bit it’s not the same game as it was when the Leafs and Habs were winning championships. Unsportsmanlike literally pointed out the parity and player rights issues above the only reason I’m getting flack for the same points is I support a non original 6 team.


10.) 28 Feb 2019 16:06:49
I'm sorry but I think those struggling teams have got a bit too much attention from the league. A few of them should have already folded IMO but the more prominent franchise still continue to keep them going. also I have mentioned the advantage of no taxes about other places on here several times like yesterday when I said mark stone signed the deal with Vegas because of it and when radulov signed in Dallas because of it so it's not just a tampa thing to me.


11.) 28 Feb 2019 16:33:05
53% tax in Montreal and Toronto compared to 36% in Tampa what does that equal? About 13 mil on the total payroll? So what would that mean no stamkos and no Tyler Johnson? You can say it doesn't make a difference all you want but it does. And it's not so much of being able to sign ufas but making it much easier to resign your current players.


 

 

08 Feb 2019 01:54:49
Looking at the asg, it feels very pointless and almost meaningless to players to say they were an “all star” in so and so year. Looking at how the nba does it, how would bringing back 5v5 look and rather than having 4 lines we just have 2 lines (first line and second line) . Make it where there’s 5 starters plus a goalie in each conference and then have it to where there’s 20 skaters plus 4 goalies. No one player per team rule or both divisions need to be even, simply EAST VS WEST and then since only 24 guys make the all star game, being named an all star might actually mean something and carry value.

AO99

1.) 08 Feb 2019 05:16:27
I wish they would just take it out alltogether. I haven't watched it in years.


2.) 08 Feb 2019 05:43:49
I'm with Habby on this.
I work 7 on, 7 off., happened that my days off were on Allstar weekend, was mad I didn't have any real Hockey to watch.
But, I guess its probably fun for the kids. That's the last time I really cared, so for that reason, and that reason only I say keep it.


3.) 08 Feb 2019 13:57:00
Team North America vs the World would be filthy.


4.) 08 Feb 2019 15:49:14
Didnt they do that awhile ago VB? I can't remember, but I think they may have like 20 years ago or something.
Best All Star kinda thing I remember was when the Soviets came over and there was that RandezVous 87 thing. It was real hockey. I was jus a young kid. but it was great. But with the best of the best all being in the NHL., never see that kinda thing again.


5.) 08 Feb 2019 17:52:05
Hey Sosa remember the tournament they had during the strike in 94? Team ontario team Quebec team western canada and the usa. That was interesting.


6.) 08 Feb 2019 21:59:19
No Habby. I don't remember that one. but that woulda been pretty cool.


7.) 09 Feb 2019 01:01:32
I think ontario won if I remember correctly and it seems like it was. a 4 on 4 tourney. It was around the same time the gretzky all stars were touring the world.


8.) 09 Feb 2019 21:33:30
I do remember Gretzky and the AllStars. I remember some players having an exhibition game in my home town of Cranbrook. remember having some beers with Sandy McCarthy, Travis Green, Darcy Martini. Paul Kariya was there, but didn't come out. Think even Ray Ferraro played the game, but didn't come out either. can't remember if Scott or Rob played. . they never came out fo beers anyway. lol
My friend is cousins with Green, he grew up only 3 hours away.


9.) 09 Feb 2019 22:50:48
those guys were not on the team I'm talking about from 94.maybe the all stars played those guys in a exhibition game? Was that what your saying? pretty cool either way.


 

 

22 Jan 2019 10:41:14
Just leaving this here. What could have been the oilers lineup for forwards

Draisaitl McDavid Anyone
Hall Barzal Eberle
Anyone RNH PULJUJARVI
ANYONE ANYONE ANYONE

In this scenario since the hall trade doesn’t happen, so they don’t need to sign Lucic leaving some cap to fill those holes. Yes no larsson on defense but that doesn’t even make much of a difference cause the rest of the blue line is basically identical.

AO99

1.) 22 Jan 2019 11:35:21
Could’ve gotten Anthony Bealiver too 😬.


 

 

01 Jan 2019 04:55:56
Considering Edmonton’s mess in contract and roster currently, this is simply a hypothetical situation so please ignore salary cap but how realistic would the be to help the oilers steer the ship around.

Edmonton trades something like this

Edmonton: Mcdavid, lucic, Russell

Any team could take that package and give up the following

Islander: barzal, beavillier, Dobson, wilde.

AO99

1.) 01 Jan 2019 05:04:27
In almost any trade that includes Connor mcdavid the oilers lose.


2.) 01 Jan 2019 05:27:02
And any where the oilers get enough value the other team backs out because it would destroy they're team.


3.) 01 Jan 2019 06:44:24
Unless McDavid demands it, there is no chance he gets traded.
I don't know what the answer there is. no one really does., but a complete regime change is a start.


 

 

02 Nov 2018 05:57:14
Just a question.
If Sebastian aho from the islanders and Sebastian aho from the canes were to play on the same team, what would their jersey name look like as they both have the same first and last name? Would they have to use the initial from their middle name?

AO99

1.) 02 Nov 2018 12:19:43
You'll have to direct this question to the NHL.


2.) 02 Nov 2018 14:30:22
If this post turns into a fight, I will have seen it all haha.


3.) 02 Nov 2018 20:41:51
The older one would be Aho Sr. And the younger one is Aho Jr.


4.) 03 Nov 2018 04:58:40
Bettman would John Scott him and get one traded to Montreal.


 

 

 

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09 May 2019 10:08:33
Why would Vancouver take back Lucic who has an extra year of contract and can’t skate?

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18 Dec 2018 07:08:16
Ummm so the canucks take on bad salary and a late 1st round pick for exactly the player the leafs need and a better cheaper replacement for Connor Brown? If the leafs want tanev, the conversation immediately starts with a rasmus sandin or Liljegren and Kapanen, not 2 cap dumps.

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02 Nov 2018 19:09:41
Virtanen is averaging more goals, assists, plus minus, TOI, better Corsi %, shots and takeaways than Nylander this season so I think Toronto adds in a first round pick to make up the difference.

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30 Jul 2018 23:38:30
Value is there but blues have no reason to trade Parayko when their forward core included ROR, Tarasenko, Schwartz, steen, Bozak, Schenn and have guys like kyrou and Thompson ready to make the jump to the NHL. Like i said value is there but the motivation or need isn’t there.

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25 Jul 2018 04:53:28
SAN Jose doesn’t have a 2019 first it’ll have to be a 2020 first and Columbus i don’t think would want to wait for a 2020 pick as they have a squad that could compete now so it’ll require a roster player or prospects that’s ready to make the jump.

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17 Oct 2018 19:19:49
Leafs17 I think you’re right about the fans not wanting to sit through another rebuild but honestly it’s what they need. Mcdavid is 21 going to be 22 years old this season, if they tear everything apart they should be done rebuilding (if properly) in 3-4 seasons when Mcdavid is 25, he’s still young enough to where he’s not wasting his prime years. It’s not the ideal situation but when you’re paying RNH and Draisaitl top dollars to be CENTERS but they don’t play center or when they do, they perform badly, I think it’s time to call it time and start from the ground up. Also if with these players they’re a bottom 5-8 team really what’s the incentive to keep this core together?

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12 Oct 2018 02:38:01
Ok makes total sense didn’t know that the qualifying offer was a mandatory one though they could just re negotiate from scratch.

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27 Sep 2018 19:41:44
Mark Scheifele if he plays 75 plus games cause he can potential score 90 plus points and his team could win the presidents trophy.

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16 Aug 2018 03:05:01
Can’t go out and get oel without giving soemthing ofassive value hence getting oel was impossible while Tavares was signed for free and he was kept out of other divisional rivals lineup so can’t complain there.

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01 Aug 2018 02:57:34
Haha @ovies hero all your assumptions are completely wrong and I’m just wondering who pissed in your cornflakes this morning.

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