13 Jul 2021 22:43:14
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau
Mark Giordano @ 1.75 mil retained
Oliver Kylington
2022 3rd round pick


Toronto trades:
William Nylander
Morgan Reilly


Calgary gets the right shot RW they need and replaces Gio with player Toronto can't afford to resign.

Toronto gets Gio to play with Brodie again for next year at the same Reilly would be. After that they can resign Gio for much less if they want. If they don't resign Gio they have a talented young offensive defenseman in Kylington. And with Gaudreau they get a very high skill offensive play maker at LW too.

1.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 03:32:00
The leafs easily decline this.

Nylander>Guadreau. Nylander has term left where as Guadreau is a pending UFA.

Girodano=Nothing he has negative value at this point but with retention he could be given away. He isn’t the dman he once was.

Kylington=a mid round pick. Basically a jermey Bracco

3rd

I don’t see this being at all close.

2.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 04:02:30
Gaudreau > Nylander
Rielly > > Giordano, Kylington, 3RD

No from Toronto.

3.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 05:10:47
That should have been Valimaki instead of Kylington.

4.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 05:20:11
Fixed.

Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau
Mark Giordano @ 1.75 mil retained
Jusso Valimaki
2022 3rd round pick


Toronto trades:
William Nylander
Morgan Reilly.

5.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 12:33:41
In what world does Guadreau>Nylander? Even Nylander>Jones. Did you not see what Hall got at deadline @75% retention. A 2nd. Rentals just aren’t worth cost controlled players. We will see what Seth Jones gets i'm guessing a 1st and a good prospect. I’m here telling the reality when people somehow think a player under control for a year is worth a player with term. Johnny Guadreau= 1st and b prospect in vacuum @50% retained.

Example Guadreau to Philly @ 50% retained for 1st 2022 and German Rubstov.

6.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 15:17:04
Gaudreau isn't a rental he still has a full year left. As I'm sure you know a rental is when you trade a player at or just before the trade deadline not trading him before the season even starts.

Hall was a rental, he didn't have a year left and he had a full NMC. Buffalo couldn't trade him for the best offer, they could only trade him where he wanted to go.

Besides that, Gaudreau and the Flames are talking extension now, he could extended by the time this trade could go down. The trade can't happen before the expansion draft. If the Flames don't extend him, the Leafs will have all year to do it and we all know Dumbass will throw more money at him than Treliving will.

7.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 15:44:14
The playoff no shows can stay in Calgary the leafs will keep their players. No interest in any combination of players from Calgary and I’m sure the leafs aren’t either when it comes to the big 4. Stated many times they won’t be moved.

8.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 16:23:13
Id say Nylander>Gaudreau because of the term. As players, Johnnys probably the better option but I’d rather keep the team controlled guy. Either way, let's say that that's lateral - Rielly for Gio, one of Valimaki/ Kylington and a pick, personally, Valimaki, Gio and a 2nd is probably close to value (Kylington not so much) but the main issue I have is that if we’re trading Rielly, it’s for secondary scoring imo. The blueline has Sandin and Liljegren as prospects, Dermott OR Holl (depending on who stays after Seattle) and Brodie, Muzzin and more than likely Bogosian as well. To add on Gio and Valimaki just seems lateral, since Valimaki is likely a 6th dman here and Gio doesn’t upgrade from Mo at all.

The one w Valimaki’s a better value imo, but I’d rather just keep the guy with term who was the only leaf besides Kerfoot to show up in the playoffs (Nylander) and if we’re trading Rielly, i’d prefer to trade him for cheap forward prospects rather than d prospects tbh.

9.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 20:33:37
@TopShelfSlappers Fair enough answer.

Bumping the pick to a 2nd would be a reasonable request too. I thought about making it a 2nd in the first place but I figured if I did that Leafs fans would say it needs to be a first and that's too much.

What got me thinking about this in the first place is all the Leaf fans wanting to trade Reilly because they don't think the Leafs can afford to resign him next year without giving up other players they'd rather keep. I assumed they'd want a replacement for him. Gio is that for the short term and Valimaki for the long term.

10.) 14 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 21:51:08
Gio has a no trade. They'd rather waive it for Seattle, since trading for reilly makes them give up andersson, tanev, or hanifin.

11.) 15 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 22:30:10
It's a modified no trade, he lists 19 teams he can be traded to.

12.) 15 Jul 2021
14 Jul 2021 22:31:33
And no they wouldn't have to give up Andersson, Tanev or Hanifin. That's why I said the deal has to wait until after the expansion draft.

13.) 15 Jul 2021
15 Jul 2021 14:43:40
MoxNix you have no idea what it’d take the leafs are trying to win now and you don’t do that by trading your number 1 dman for a aging 6th dman, a prospect on the verge of bust territory and Potentially the most 1 dimensional winger in the game signed with 1 year left.

I wouldn’t move Kerfoot straight up for that package you make your self look like a fool here with your hott takes. If you want Nylander you’re giving Tkachuk or Lindholm. Atleast a player that’d hurt to move. If your trading for Rielly then you’re giving a term controlled dman. The leafs will use Rielly as a rental then the flames can sign him in 2022 they are running for a cup so no need for trading him.

14.) 15 Jul 2021
15 Jul 2021 18:15:13
@Nylander The only fool around here is you.

Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would take a lot less than Gaudreau, Giordano, Kylington and a 3rd for Kerfoot. Suggesting Toronto would take that package for Kerfoot isn't foolish it's the stupidest thing anyone has said on here in a some time.

The guy who says things like Hyman will resign in Toronto cheaply because he doesn't care about money since his dad is rich calling others fools.

Nylander isn't worth a Tkachuk or Lindholm. He's only worth a Gaudreau because Gaudreau is UFA in a year. Gaudreau makes a bit less now and will probably wind up making about the same money or a bit more when he resigns.

Reilly isn't term controlled either he's UFA in a year's time too. The expectation is his new contract is going to cost too much for the Leafs to keep him.