25 Apr 2021 20:44:17
Leafs got to solve 3C whole this offseason

Tor:
Backlund 2mil retained

Cal:
Kerfoot
2nd
Hirovonen


1.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 02:34:39
Calgary says no to that one. Even without the retention it'd be a no.

Backlund probably is available for the right price but that isn't it.

Mykayev and a 2nd probably gets them talking. Might even convince Calgary to take Kerfoot back to balance cap but if you want them to retain salary on Backlund it'll take more.


2.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 07:51:38
@moxnix I think it would create a huge hole for Calgary if they were to trade Backs. He’s our best defensive forward behind Mang. @hockeyisloaf there are cheaper options that the leafs could look at. Backlund at 5mil would hurt them imo, Backs is overpaid obviously but he’s not a bad player


3.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 07:54:14
I think some cheap options would be Derek Ryan, Casey Cizikas in free agency. Also I think they should add a player like Brandon Tanev if they could. Maybe Kerfoot + for Tanev


4.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 08:40:50
@NotACasual Backlund is good defensively but Calgary needs to make changes in the core and he's one of the older, higher paid players too.

Mikeyev isn't a center but he's good defensively too. He's also younger, faster and much cheaper freeing up cap to use on another player. And though he isn't a right shot he is a RW, the Flames' weakest position.

Ryan probably gets resigned for a lot less (freeing up more cap) . Ruzicka or Gawdin could center a 4th line now and last's year's first round pick Connor Zary might already be better than either of them.


5.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 15:18:30
There is this huge misconception that Kerfoot is a bad player and not a competent 3C when reality he is one of the most versatile players in the game. He can play top 6 wing or 3C. He is average in both roles he doesn’t stand out ever in a bad way and he usually doesn’t stand out much in general. ( he does make some clutch plays ) . The reason why fans always propose to trade him is because Mathews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares combine for half of the teams roster place. It’s very hard to ice a team with 4 players making that much not to mention the flat cap. Look at what the leafs had to do with Johnsson and Kappanen. Kerfoot is in that same boat now. People have been blinded so much by seeing him in so many proposals that they forget he’s a good player. Kerfoot>>>Tanev ( Brandon ) . No stats say he’s a bad player in any aspect. He’s definitely a better player then Andrew Mangiapane lol as of now.


6.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 16:40:25
@Nylander Nobody wants Kerfoot. That's why he's still a Leaf. Even though they don't want him either!

That should tell you everything you need to know about his value.


7.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 18:00:36
Mangiapane>>Kerfoot>Tanev

I’d be happy to keep Kerf tbh. I do like him as a player, he's probably 0.5-1M overpaid but he's definitely a good third line guy and can slide up and down the lineup. i'd obviously rather allocate his salary towards a better player (thats what all contenders would rather do), but if it came to dumping him for negative value or keeping him, i'd much rather keep him. Well still be able to resign both Chucky and Hyman and keep Kerfoot this offseason; next ones the one where you find a taker for rental Kerfoot with the Rielly contract upcoming.


8.) 26 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 20:47:07
I wouldn't keep Rielly. Rather trade him for a Parayko/ Chychrun type.


9.) 27 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 22:02:31
If we could, I'd be totally open to it. Honestly, trading Mo is the right move for the franchise cause frankly, he's pretty highly valued around the league despite probably not deserving such high value. Still, I just got this feeling he's going to be a leaf lifer, whether that's the right decision or not. Idk why, I just feel like mgmt considers him part of that core with the four forwards as well.


10.) 27 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 23:36:04
I’m sure anyone would but neither team is trading those players. @ Paryanko/ Chychrun

Not once has Kyle Dubas or any analyst ever suggested that the leafs were trying to trade Kerfoot. Leafs fans put him in deals because he’s the only expendable player on their whole roster making over 2 million. I’m not sure how that’s to hard to comprehend.


11.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 02:44:14
@hockeyisloaf moving Rielly would be the dumbest move ever. There’s no guarantee that you’d get Chychrun or Parayko type defensemen. It’s easier said than done


12.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 04:46:37
Kerfoot is garbage! Sandin and Mikheyev for Backlund should do.


13.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 06:40:05
@Barrie92 Problem with that is Sandin is a left shot LD and Calgary is fine at LD. Liljegren is a right shot RD, he'd be more likely to get ice time in Calgary.

They're both Swedes so either would fit in well with all the Swedish players already playing for Calgary.


14.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 14:04:29
They could get a much better player if they were to trade Sandin. Backlund isn’t a major difference maker and isn’t worth trading their best defensive prospect. Most Calgary fans have this conception that each of their players is worth insane value- there’s a reason y’all are one of the worst teams.


15.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 15:54:38
Sandin is easily worth a top 10 pick at this point. I’d be confident rolling Muzzin, Sandin and Dermott on left side.


16.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 17:01:41
Barrie is right, Kerfoot is garbage. He’d slide right in to the oilers top 6.


17.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 17:42:40
@Toronto17 Oilers don't have a top 6, they have a terrific 2, a single top 6 player and a whole lot of bottom 6 players.

@Websjac You've got it backwards, it's Toronto fans who have this conception each of their players is worth insane value. You seem to think your rejects are better than good players on most other teams.

The funny thing is Backlund is a player the Leafs could really use. A good two way center who's strong defensively, wins a lot of faceoffs and good enough to play with or against anyone. Of course Toronto fans know all of this which is exactly why they want him.


18.) 27 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 19:30:07
@Mornix I’m not denying Backlund is a good two way player, but he’s 32 and declining. I just said Sandin who is a top 10 defensive prospect is much more valuable and the add would have to be like Zary and Backlund for Sandin or somethin.

Also I’d gladly take Kerfoot on my Sens, he’s 26 (6 years younger than Backlund) and has more points (20 vs 18)- most of which come without playing with Marner, Matthews, etc,


19.) 28 Apr 2021
27 Apr 2021 20:30:44
That was my point MoxNix. An oiler fan calling any forward garbage is comical considering the rotation of forwards they’ve shuffled through their line up the last few years. I’d bet he thinks Ennis is a stud now that he’s not a leaf. I agree with Mikheyev and a 2nd as being close. Sandin and Mikheyev like Barrie suggests is absurd and it’s the usual garbage that comes from Barrie. I’m curious Barrie, what would the mighty oilers have to give up for Backlund?


20.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 01:34:29
Sandin is worth a top 10 pick? Yes you value him based on the total of four games he's played this year? Come on shake your head.


21.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 03:48:31
Sandin has been elite at every level and is up there with with Noah Dobson ( although I’d take Noah Dobson ) you hope a top 10 pick trajects at Sandins pace yes he hasn’t played a lot of games that’s because he is a 20 year old player on a top 3 team in NHL. He’ll get more time next year.


22.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 06:40:21
He has not been elite anywhere yet. and this is coming from a guy who stated on here that he loved the pick by the leafs when they drafted him. I was hoping he would slip to 35th for the Habs. he’s been good everywhere he’s played but not elite.


23.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 06:43:55
Noah Dobson on the other hand was close to elite in his draft year and was elite the 2nd half and playoffs of his last junior season.


24.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 15:23:26
Sandin has been elite at the AHL level in a 2way role as was he in the World juniors. In the SHL for what he did at his age was on par with what any other dman in recent history has accomplished in SHL aside from
Dahlin.


25.) 28 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 20:17:15
He was good at the world juniors but to call him elite there you would have to also consider Romanov elite not sure you would want to do that but that’s neither here nor there. but if he was elite before he was drafted like you say then why did he fall to 29th in his draft year? The truth is if he wasn’t with the leafs you wouldn’t know he existed.


26.) 29 Apr 2021
28 Apr 2021 21:03:48
Actually I was a big fan of the SooGreyhounds that year with Morgan Frost leading the way and he’s who I wanted the leafs to draft but you’re right in the OHL he wasn’t elite being the yongest dman on the soo greyhound.


27.) 29 Apr 2021
29 Apr 2021 06:08:25
Or in the AHL or in Sweden before he went to the OHL.


28.) 29 Apr 2021
29 Apr 2021 15:09:01
@Nylander whatever it is you're smoking you need need to share!