22 Apr 2021 22:34:48
Ott : Ryan Dzingle, 2021 1st, Logan Brown, Johnny Thychonic

Cal : Matthew Tkachuk

Ott : Colin White, Erik Brannstrom, a 2023 1st (Top 10 protected), a 2024 1st, Chris Teirney

Buf : Jack Eichel

M. Tkachuk Eichel Batherson
B. Tkachuk Norris Stutzle
Formenton Pinto Dadonov
Jarventie Anisimov C. Brown

Sanderson Docker
Chabot Thompson
Klevin Zub


Seattle takes Murray

1.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 11:08:58
I don't think you need to mess with what will be success in a few years. Hard pass on Matt Tkachuck and Eichel. especially Eichel.

2.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 11:47:26
Not getting Tkachuk for that.

3.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 12:00:37
The cost of both Tkachuk and Eichel will be too high that it wouldn’t be worth Ottawa going for. I think we just got to be patient, they’re starting to put things together now so I think we could be a playoff team as soon as next year.

4.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 14:43:01
Add Sturtzel and Buffalo still declines.

5.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 15:05:35
Why wouldn't we get Tkachuk for that? Despite what fans think of Brown, he is still considered a high end prospect throughout the league, Dzingle is a quality middle 6 winger, and that pick is most likely a lottery pick this year who will be as good as or better than Tkachuk in 5 years time. In what world is that not enough for Tkachuk? If anything it's too much.

6.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 15:54:14
Ryan Dizingel=Nothing, a 1st from a weak draft, Logan Brown can barely crack the Sens roster he sucks and that prospect sucks even more.

7.) 23 Apr 2021
23 Apr 2021 16:19:32
Matthew isn't for sale and even if he was that package isn't even close to what it'd take to get him.

How about we trade you you Derek Ryan, Buddy Robinson, some unknown plug and a 1st for Brady?

8.) 24 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 01:07:03
Lets look at it this way:

Brady Tkachuk for Derek Ryan, Glenn Gawdin and a 1st and two 2nds? Probably not right? Ryans been on waivers, but Dzingels value compared to Ryan is probably like a 4th or so better. Not too much. Gawdin should be about equal to Logan Brown, both decent enough prospects, probably low end 3rd liners. The 1sts balance out, Calgarys doing just as poorly as Ottawa is, and two seconds for Tuchonik is probably even an overpayment. If you wouldn’t take that for Brady, why would CGY take your offer for Matthew?

9.) 24 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 17:35:50
Ok topshelfslappers let me put it this way then as your thoughts on value are massively skewed. Those 2 trades are nowhere near the same thing and Calgary is doing much better than Ottawa making their pick a lot worst last I looked. Calgary is in 22nd in the league right now which is around pick 9 or 10 while Ottawa is in 28th right now which is a top 4 to 5 pick. That's a huge difference in values.

L.Brown is still a top end prospect expected to be a top 6 center. He just hasn't been given the opportunity in ottawa as that goofball Dorian expexts him to be super flashy, which ain't his style, I've personally liked what I have seen of him, they just won't give him the chance that a team like Calgary probably would. Now I'll admit I don't follow Gawdin enough to know much about him but I bet he ain't top 6 material like Brown is?

And Dzingle has played much better since back in Ottawa and some would say he's back to his form he he'd when he was there before. And like you said Ryan was on waivers while Dzingle the last time Ottawa traded him away got them two 2nd round picks plus a very capable Anthony Duclair. So pretty sure Dzingle is A LOT more valuable that Ryan.

Then you take in to account that a lot of people believe Brady is BETTER and MORE VALUABLE to his team than Matthew is. Matthew is a great flashy instigator who can put up numbers which is great and all but Brady is a no nonsense in your face battler who stands up for team mates and STILL matches Matthews numbers all be it in a less flashy way.

In conclusion Brady as well as the pieces I mentioned from Ottawa are ALL more valuable than the Calgary counter parts mentioned above. And two 2nds don't cover the difference of the 1sts mentioned. Possibly the difference of Dzingle Ryan and Tkachuk value over his Brother but that's hardly enough.

10.) 24 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 17:45:03

Dzingle is playing as good or better now than he did with Ottawa before when he netted them a return of two 2nds and Duclair who is a pretty good hockey player. That's NOT nothing! And Logan Brown absolutely CAN crack the roster he's just NOT being given the chance and Dorian expects flash which is NOT his style. Go look at the nhl prospect rankings, like him or not I don't care, he's STILL listed as a TOP 65 prospects league wide as of mid January this year which clearly counts for something. You may not like him but experts clearly do.

11.) 24 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 17:54:27

Dude that comment is pathetic. That offer is NOWHERE near as good value wise as the one for Matthew and you know it. I wouldn't trade Brady for fair value right now let alone that garbage. But saying the offer I made for Matthew isn't close is just dumb. It's more than close its an overpayment that a team like Ottawa has the resources to make. A top 65 prospect league wide and a top 5 pick in this years draft alone is more than enough let alone adding a middle 6 speedy scoring winger who was able to fetch a return of Duclair and two 2nds as recently as 2 years ago to the mix.

And FYI Brady is also worth more than Matthew is hands down while your offer is a joke compared to mine.

12.) 24 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 18:08:42
Gotta love Mr. Hockey Knowledge, Nylander and how ill-informed he is on talent.
Jack Eichel is about to get neck surgery and who knows if he will ever be 100%, but hey, the great Nylander says adding Stutzle to this trade still isn't enough.
This guy must think Eichel is the best in the league, highly over-rating this player.

13.) 25 Apr 2021
24 Apr 2021 21:15:02

I totally missed that one lol two 1sts from a rebuilding team, top 10 protected or not, plus 2 over qualified 3rd line centers, and a future top 2 or 3 dman is so far off you need to add a top 3 pick who's a top 6 forward in year 1 on top of all that? Lmfao give your head a feel Nylander 😆 clearly you lost a few brain cells over the course of your life 😆

14.) 25 Apr 2021
25 Apr 2021 05:35:12
The difference between Ryan Dzingel and Derek Ryan is negligable. Dzingel is a little bigger and 5 years younger. They're both UFAs making almost the same money (Dzingel makes 250k more) .

You can't compare what a player was traded for in a pre c.v. trade to what players fetch now with the flat cap.

Logan Brown is not top 6 material. He's a huge 6'6" 4th line plug, very much like Buddy Robinson only younger. Again the difference is negligable.

Jonny Tychonick is a nobody who will probably never play in the NHL.

The 1st round picks are pretty much a wash. The way both teams are playing they're both going to be high picks and it's quite possible Ottawa could wind up ahead of Calgary yet. Besides that, it's a very poor draft this year with nobody who really stands out above the rest and the panicdemic made it impossible to do any meaningful scouting.

As for Brady vs Matthew, they're both elite young players. Which one is better won't be decided for a long time yet.

15.) 25 Apr 2021
25 Apr 2021 05:46:39
Lol you’re the two most biased sens fans out there Eichel is better then Daniel Alferdssen ever was he’s a top 10 player in the game and as a leafs fan I know he’s on par with Mathews. He’s a star on a awful hockey team. He’s going to fully recover from his injury and literally every team in the NHL would out bid that offer.

Sturtzel, Brannstrom and 1st 2021 top 3 protected is what it’d take for Eichel.

Colin White also has negative value with that contract.

16.) 27 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 22:33:05
Nylander you are on some great drugs. Eichel might be near or at most on Alfie level but in NO way is he above a prime Alfie, get real. The got ain't even a point a game player in his career for one, nor has he EVER led his team to even a single playoff game in 5 years despite having loads of talent surrounding him in that period from Orielly to Kane, to Reinhardt Dahlin Risto and Hall among others. Top that off with the injuries in that time and the known fact that he's frustrated, wants out, and has a no trade clause kicking in this offseason and it's pretty clear how far off your evaluation truly is.

White, Brown, a 2023 top 10 protected 1st, and Branstrom would be more than enough to get the trade done. Adding Stutzle or Sanderson is just a dreamers request. Tell your bad proposals to someone else dumb enough to believe they carry merit.

And Colin White definitely does NOT have negative value what so ever, keep dreaming fan boy

17.) 27 Apr 2021
26 Apr 2021 22:43:56

what are you talking about? Brady is undoubtedly better than Matthew hands down.

Top 5 is still top 5 weak draft or not and still carries tons of value.

Tychonic will be a bottom 4 dman at worst

And normally you're right about past trade values however when that past trade was only within the last 3 years, in this case 2, and the player himself has been playing as good or better than he did at the time of that trade like Dzingle has been then he'll yeah you can compare it to current value to establish what he's worth, you'd be dumb not to.

As for Brown, as of this past January 2021 he is litterally STILL listed as the 62nd BEST NHL prospect league wide. In that write up it is stated that those around the league STILL view his as a future top 6 possible top 3 center whether you like him or not, the league clearly does still think pretty highly of the kid. Here's the link if you still have the urge to argue common sense.

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