28 May 2020 16:41:50
Ok guys I sort've seen this on social media discussions recently and wanted to get some thoughts as it does sound kind of interesting to me.

Now keep in mind these are completely hypothetical situations depending on how the lottery and play in round of playoffs go.

Say the bottom 4 seeds in the east all win their matchups. That leaves Ottawa with the 13th overall pick via the New York Islanders.

Now say Ottawa gets extremely lucky and wins both the 1st and the 2nd overall picks in the lottery while Detroit drops to 4th (since I don't think they would do the trade I'm bout to post), and say Buffalo wins 3rd overall.

Now say Ottawa wants to use some current assets to move up in the draft from 13th to 6th or 7th and again from there to 3rd.

Ott : 13th overall in 2020, 2021 2nd, 2020 3rd, Chlapic, Duclair

Lak or Ana : 2020 6th overall or 20207th overall

Then,

Ott : 2020 6th or 7th overall, L. Brown, zaitsev, Gustafson, 3rd best 2020 2nd

Keep in mind the move up only happens if Ottawa were to win the other 2 outright in lottery giving them all 3 and the chance to make history.

The reason I have Detroit drop to 4th here is because the too desperately need the star power and I doubt for that reason they would move at all given how high they are on stutzle. But Buffalo I can see doing this trade because on paper they are loaded with talent but lack a true starting goalie. What this trade does for them is it gives them a top 6 potential center anyway in brown so losing out on stutzle or Byfield won't hurt as much, plus they get a potential starting goalie in Gustafson, a NHL bottom 6 dman, and they add a late 2nd rounder just to move down 4 to 4 spots in the draft. It's a no brainer for Buffalo as even by that point there is guaranteed to be a stud left. They would end up with either Raymond, Rossi, Drysdale, Holtz, or Askarov, all of which would be amazing for them.

And Ottawa would make history and get the bonified best 3 in the draft in Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stutzle. But I would leave all 3 develope 1 more year in junior while the main team has 1 more horrible year and go for Owen Power in next year's draft before bringing all 4 up together with the likes of Docker, Branstrom, Formenton, Norris, Thompson, Balcers, and Batherson.

What do you all think? Is this realistic or would I have to add to the first trade? 2nd trade I believe should be more than enough to get the job done as there is a lot of good stuff there. Again remember this is hypothetical if those scenerios go as stated.


1.) 28 May 2020
28 May 2020 17:25:48
I wish I could delete this post, lol.


2.) 28 May 2020
28 May 2020 18:58:34
Why would they even want to acquire the 3rd overall pick if they win 1st and 2nd? Also you’d have to give up a lot more to move up.


3.) 28 May 2020
28 May 2020 19:09:50
Loooool not even close bud, sorry try again.


4.) 29 May 2020
29 May 2020 04:10:10
If Ottawa gets #1 and #2, they have no need to move up to #3. The problem would be 3 years after they bring them up, they're probably paying 3 almost identical contracts, which will be ridiculous or bridges.

Usually when players play together and get contracts together, they're close. Kane and Toews did it. Monahan and Gadreau got super close deals. Ottawa would have a Male leafs problem, too much cap % to a couple stars.


5.) 31 May 2020
31 May 2020 01:35:47
Ok monkeyful that is understandable but it's not like they will need those contracts right away though. Entry contracts are 3 years long. When those 3 years are up Ryan, anismov, Anderson, boadker, zaitsev, and hainsey contracts will be off the books by then, and the cap will be up a bit too. With those contracts sens are at the floor now. That's like 35 million right there roughly which would be more than enough for all 3. And they wouldn't even be back at the floor yet, with tkachuck they'd be near the floor.


6.) 31 May 2020
31 May 2020 01:55:25
Vbbvbb When you say it would take a lot more I'm assuming you mean the 13th to 6th or 7th could use more? Maybe a little bit but not as much as you like to think. And the 6th or 7th to 3rd trade, if you think that needs more I really want to know your dealers phone number? Or did you buy all the good stuff already?

Logan Brown is a future top 6 center

Gustafson is a future starting goalie

The 6th or 7th pick is not far from the value of the 3rd pick this year. Byfield and Lafreniere sure but Stutzle, Raymond, Drysdale, Rossi, And Holtz, the difference is so small it's nearly non existent. Stutzle has a slight edge but that is it.

Throwing in a 2nd in the deepest draft since 03, plus Brown, Gustafson, and a serviceable NHL dman in zaitsev. There's not 1 thing wrong with that trade. Infact anyone with half a brain would say that is what we call an overpayment!

As for the 13th look how deep this draft is dude you got Perfetti, Gunler, Sanderson, Askarov, Holloway, Quinn, Mercer, and Lindell all of which have top 10 skill level and would be top 10 ay other year. So the difference between any of them and the 6th or 7th pick is not much bigger than the gap between 7th and 3rd.

So adding a 2nd, a 3rd, a depth prospect, and a middle 6 goal scorer with speed to again should be more than enough. Maybe add what? Nick Paul? Or Christian Jarod? Or maybe Johnny Tychonic? Anymore than that is way too much, so please, lay off the drugs dude, they mess with your head.


7.) 31 May 2020
31 May 2020 02:09:37
EP, how is that not close? Please tell me. Top 20 guys mostly have top 6 potential. Guaranteed top 15 do. Moving up 4 to 6 spots each time and adding the pieces I did helps all teams involved. It don't take a kings ransom to get that done dude. Rossi is not much better than Lundell, and Stutzle is not that much better than Rossi. So why would the picks where they are projected to go be worth more than the price I mentioned above?

Duclair was Ottawa's second best player this year and adding him to the 13th overall, as well as a b- to b prospect in chlapic, and a 2nd, and a 3rd should be enough to move to at least 7th.

And considering Lafreniere >> Byfield > Stutzle =/ > Drysdale = Raymond = Rossi = Holtz

7th to 3rd is NOT a huge leap in skill, so adding a B+ to A- prospect like Brown, a B to B+ prospect like Gustafson, a serviceable defense man like Zaitsev, and 2nd round pick in a massively deep draft class is well more than enough to get that deal done. Team that owns the 3rd would be insane to refuse all that and if they did they deserve to be fired no question!