12 Aug 2016 15:46:59
Trade is supposed to be

EDM- Yakupov, Reinhart, 2nd

OTT- Ceci, Puempel.


1.) 12 Aug 2016
12 Aug 2016 19:32:36
2 busts for a very good young defenceman? Larson got Hall from the Oilers. Do you really think Ottawa will take less for a better player?


2.) 12 Aug 2016
12 Aug 2016 19:40:12
Ottawa counters with Phaneuf and Hammond for Talbot, Klefbom, a 1st and will relieve the Oil of Yak.


3.) 12 Aug 2016
12 Aug 2016 22:03:01
Lol are you the new cry baby who calls yak and Reinhart busts now and always brings up the hall trade? I hope not. Chill.


4.) 12 Aug 2016
12 Aug 2016 22:03:17
This is a bad trade for Ottawa but still.


5.) 12 Aug 2016
12 Aug 2016 22:51:19
Nobody has to relieve edm of yakapov, if he wasn't 1st overall, nobody would think he sucks, still a decent player even though hasn't lived up to expectations. And are you saying ceci is better than larsson? If so, I'm guessing you're more of a baseball fan than hockey.


6.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 01:34:56
No
Not totally down on Reinhart but he's not getting you much yet. Loved his dad as a player and Griffin may develop. Let's be serious about yak though. He's completely lost out there. He has a rocket for a shot and shows a great deal of enthusiasm but very little hockey sense. I do like Ceci to this point over Larrson but that could change. I already saw another def come to Edmonton with good numbers after being s partner with Greene and we've seen how that turned out. But, we will know soon enough.


7.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 02:11:17
Take this in, at 22 years old this kid is calling Reinhart a bust, yet he hasn't played a full NHL season, with only 37 career games, Borje, not knowing that statistically the average age for a Defenseman to really sprout into a NHL role is 24ish, he has the size and height to be a good NHL Defenseman, the only catch on him is his lack of speed and his offense, both things that can be improved dramatically in 2 years. With Yak he is also 22, and is on the 3rd line most of the time, but if you actually watched Oiler games you would know when he was paired on a good line with let's say Mcdavid, his number were tremendous (just under a PPG) until he was injured. So anyways, the point is calling these 22 year olds busts is a little rash, a more gentle term that easily describes them is "projects" rather than bust's.


8.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 02:43:27
Also what you guys who bash the trade don't get is that New Jersey really needed Larsson, look at their defensive depth, not only that but Ray Shero highly rates Larsson's defensive numbers, with good reason, have you seen them? Ceci is a great pick mover who has a good Defenseman game and decent offense, Ottawa says no because they don't need A LD transitioning into NHL from the AHL or a RW project, even though Ceci is an RFA atm, he should be traded for a forward who could undoubtly create impact, Yakupov is just a question mark, rn Ceci should be their best asset for trading, that's why they say no, not the bs this guy that nobody know says. ^^.


9.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 05:23:00
Haha. Sure yak and griff are bust but Ceci is not near what Larson is. Talking about bust Ceci is one himself.


10.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 07:46:31
As you saw by my comment, Reinhart may still develop. However, working against him is that he has always been bigger and stronger as he matured physically at a young age. Not sure there is much more to him but I hope so. I see a lot of oiler games and have played against and know some of their coaching staff. Yak is not a good player. Sorry. Larsson is going to be a pretty good defenseman in my opinion as is Ceci.


11.) 13 Aug 2016
13 Aug 2016 19:05:37
If Yak can slow down and start thinking instead of doing everything 100mph then he could be good. That's his main problem. And then he needs to be better in practice I heard.


12.) 14 Aug 2016
14 Aug 2016 01:59:16
Christ why won't you admit yak is not that good. You oiler fans in the history of this board, rate on draft pick position and a players potential. But never on production and performance. Yes I do bring up the Larson trade cause it sets the presidence of the trade market for rhd. I also bring it up to show how you and others over value, but I do the same but I also like to say to piss u off.

With that said 4 years in and yak hasn't scored 20 goals only broke 15 once hasn't broken 40 points and hasn't improved. If he wasnt drafted 1 overall there would little value.

Honestly his numbers are comparable to patrick berglund except bergies possession stats and his hero warrior stats are better berglund us a center and is good definsivley.

But as usual you will just say I'm wrong but numbers don't lie my friend.


13.) 14 Aug 2016
14 Aug 2016 05:07:33
Colt- your wrong.

Yak will be back this year. Mark me.


14.) 14 Aug 2016
14 Aug 2016 08:26:54
Be back what do you mean. He has never been anything lol you have to accomplish sometHong first then fall off to get back to being good. He never was great. But okay denial must run rampant in oil country.