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15 Oct 2018 21:25:44
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Thoughts ?

15 Oct 2018 21:37:18
No from WPG. Ever heard the phrase ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it? ’ I’d take Ehlers over Nylander and Myers over Gardiner any day, and Hyman and a 4th aren’t enough to change my mind.

15 Oct 2018 23:40:32
Yeah, I'd rather keep Ehlers considering how much Nylander is supposedly asking for. Hyman isn't needed or wanted at all and Gardiner and Myers are a wash. So, no thanks.

15 Oct 2018 23:52:47
The Jets don't need another fight to sign a kid like Nylander that wants more than he is worth, as they are still doing that battle with Trouba's agent. Gardner will be in the same boat at the end of next season as well. Ehlers is locked up for 6 more years at a great contract while Myers will most likely sign between $5 and $6 mil per. In the cap NHL the Jets wouldn't do this trade.

16 Oct 2018 00:03:41
Uhhh, i'm not so sure bout this. i'd rather just hold onto torontos pieces imo. Ehlers basically = Nylander, but contract situation makes Ehlers more ideal. Imo, befor Marcus or anyone jumps in, i'd say Gardiner and Myers are a wash, a little bias WPGs way, a little bias TORs way, but they're close.

If I’m Winnipeg, i don't want to trade a solid contract in Ehlers for one that could be demanding more in Nylander. The gamble may not be worth it.

If I’m Toronto, i don't do this cause i'd rather try and sign Nylander reasonably, and keep Hyman, because if Nylander does in fact sign reasonbly, then Hyman >>> nothing.

16 Oct 2018 21:03:02
Boy, Hyman is seriously underated.

10 Oct 2018 02:40:42
VAN: Del Zotto
WPG: Kulikov, 4th Round Pick 2019

30 Sep 2018 04:14:58
WPG: Myers
TOR: Gardiner

Winnipeg gets an offensive dman to play with Buff. Toronto gets a top pairing (on Toronto, second pairing elsewhere) to quarterback their PP and play with Rielly

30 Sep 2018 05:04:55
Can’t wait to see the replies.

30 Sep 2018 05:49:03
Ya. This will be entertaining.

30 Sep 2018 06:48:19
Nope. Winnipeg can't trade Myers until they know for sure what is happening with Trouba. Both guys are rentals and Gardiner isn't an upgrade for Winnipeg, so there is zero reason for the Jets to do it.

30 Sep 2018 13:40:53
Not sure how Gardiner isn’t an upgrade he out produced Myers in just about every statistical Catagory you can imagine.

30 Sep 2018 17:08:57
I think the Leafs should keep Gardner as he is such an offensive stud. Myers gives the Jets a strong right side defense and he can be signed for a lot less than Gardner. Myers will only be moved if Trouba signs a long term deal after Jan 1st, or Poolman continues to develop and pushes him out of the line-up. Toronto should sign Gardner long term, for $7 mil per year, to solidify your strong defense.

30 Sep 2018 17:12:33
This trade helps Toronto more as it gives them an RHD that Babcock desperately wants to avoid playing Hainsey above where he should be on the bottom pairing.

Gardiner's offence likely won't transfer to Winnipeg as he won't get the same opportunities here. So, I'd rather just keep the guy we know than get a new one we don't since he isn't an upgrade.

Overall, it is just a trade for the sake of making a trade. Therefore, not worth doing.

01 Oct 2018 02:53:26
Gardiner > Myers for a few reasons
Gets more points
Lower contract
Same +/ - as Myers
Does really well on PP
Still did well while playing with Zaitsev who wasn’t very good last year

The only think you could argue with Myers is that RHD aren’t as common as LHD and he is bigger
I think Winnipeg will end up trading one of Myers or Trouba, they simply can’t afford to keep both so come January, they better have either decided to lock up Trouba and trade Myers, or the opposite, unless they trade away a star forward, they simply cannot keep both.

01 Oct 2018 05:49:17
In all likelihood, Trouba will end up being signed long term and Myers will end up walking as a UFA. I highly doubt either gets traded.

01 Oct 2018 07:00:51
Jets should trade a RH defenseman to address their pathetic center depth. Career 40 point man leading the 2nd unit again? Or try and lock up Trouba because Myers will walk and the cheeseburger eating machine is slowing down.

01 Oct 2018 17:08:22
Leafs 17
This is funny coming from a Leafs fan which team has no defense.

01 Oct 2018 20:19:47
Yeah, big talk from a Laffs fans, when the Jets have accomplished more in less than 10 years than the Laffs have in over 50. Lol.

26 Sep 2018 23:38:59
Three way trade option:

WPG to TOR: Trouba
TOR to CGY: Nylander
CGY to WPG: Hanifin


27 Sep 2018 02:29:57
No from Winnipeg. We're better off keeping Trouba for our playoff run this year and looking into moving him next year if we have to.

27 Sep 2018 04:41:36
Calgary just acquired Hanafin why would they trade him?

27 Sep 2018 13:48:32
I know, right Joe? Why would Winnipeg want to trade Trouba for a younger, better defenceman signed for less money and for long-term with no doubts about wanting out of Canada who is not consistently plagued by injuries and plays on the left hand side where Winnipeg has considerably less depth? It's like they don't know anything about hockey! They are such homers!

27 Sep 2018 14:51:10
The only problem with that, is that Trouba is much better than Hanafin and is RHD as opposed to the easier to find LHD.

27 Sep 2018 15:07:52
Trouba will bring a better return at the draft. I can't see Calgary trading Hanafin this soon. Also if Trouba is so poor and injury pron why would the Leafs want him as he will want an 8 year $7+ mil contract in a year?

27 Sep 2018 16:01:48
Won't happen. but one if the better 3 way trade proposals I've seen.

27 Sep 2018 16:43:47
Who said leafs want Trouba lol.

27 Sep 2018 16:47:45
Maybe in your comically biased opinion, he is. Hey Cody Ceci shoots right. You should totally trade Morrissey for him since he shoots left.

27 Sep 2018 18:20:11
Well you are proving you don't watch the Jets or really know anything about the players. Suggesting that the sheltered second pairing defenseman Hanafin is better than a top pairing defenseman is just outright homerism.

No matter, the Leafs aren't getting Trouba, give it up.

27 Sep 2018 18:45:08
I would want Trouba on the leafs, with a long term contract so we never have to talk to him and his agent. On ice only, I’ll take Trouba.

But Marcus, much like me saying I would take Colin Miller back as the main piece in a Nylander trade - miller is cheaper, locked up for more years and in a position (RHD) we need far more than a RW. That is all worth something. That’s not saying straight talent they are equal players. But hanifin at even 80% the player, younger, with a $4.9mill cap hit for 6 seasons, and plays the position jets were actually looking for in return for Trouba makes a ton of sense. Troubas a good Dman that thinks he’s worth far more than he is. He isn’t a god. Realize that.

27 Sep 2018 18:54:15
I rarely miss a game, as a matter of fact. Being retired and having NHL Centre Ice affords me the luxury of watching more hockey in a week than you probably do in a season. This "top pairing defenceman" you speak of was sheltered far more than Hanifin has been throughout his career playing behind Buff and even occasionally Myers. Only recently has he had that honour bestowed upon him.

Hanifin is the more valuable player and unwillingess to trade Trouba for him straight up illustrates your bias which has already been well-documented on this site.

And I could care less about the Leafs getting Trouba--I'm not a fan. The team I cheered for as a kid isn't even in the show anymore.

27 Sep 2018 19:49:42
Jim, I understand the points you're making and they are valid. What I'm saying is that your point about taking Trouba on ice is the main one. Being a contender the Jets can't afford to take a drop off to Hanafin this year. Yes, contract negotiations with him have been a pain in the rear, but since he's signed now, there is no reason to downgrade this year. Next summer we'll see.

Unsportsmanlike, you mean Trouba was sheltered by having to drag around Mark Stuart, the worst player in the NHL, as a rookie and still putting up good numbers? Anyways, who cares about 3 or 4 years ago. Trouba is undoubtedly better now, which is what matters now. Your well documented bias against Trouba is showing, when you can't admit you are flat out wrong about who is better.

27 Sep 2018 19:57:29
Who did you cheer for unsportsmanlike? Hartford, Quebec?

27 Sep 2018 20:06:56
Unsportsmanlike you hit that right on the dot 👍🏻 Trouba is good but I still don’t understand how he’s viewed as a top 10 dman in the world lol doesn’t even make sense and he’s barely been top pairing throughout his career on Winnipeg lol he’s a good top 4, not quite top pairing especially behind buff.

27 Sep 2018 21:56:36
Mark Stuart, the worst player in the NHL would be a worth gold if he was still in the jets star studded line up. Let’s just say Trouba goes to the leafs Joe, is he still the super human defenseman you make him out to be?

27 Sep 2018 22:29:25
I’ve always thought Trouba would be a good fit in Toronto. Same age as Rielly, opposite hand and plays a little more physical. Seems like a perfect long term pair to me. That being said, they would our top pair on a balanced D-core. We would have a solid 4 because we wouldn't have any studs. Rielly is our #1 D, but he’s not your typical #1 Dman the way Weber, Kieth, Doughty Karlsson etc is. And same as Trouba. He would be #1 here, but almost by default. He’s not viewed as an actual #1 Dman anywhere outside Winnipeg. And to be honest, not even in Winnipeg by management because if they felt he was a legit #1 RHD at 24 years old, they’d be happy to pay him his $7.5mill for 8 he wanted.

27 Sep 2018 23:24:38
Leafs17, that actually would be funny if Trouba ended up in Toronto. In Leaf fan's eyes Trouba would immediately go from a run of the mill second pairing defenseman to an instant tie for the best defenseman in the league (tied with Rielly of course) and a generational talent to boot, giving the Leafs a total of 23 generational talents.

Where in Winnipeg we just value Trouba for what he actually is. A young, top pairing RHD that matches up against the toughest competition every night and consistently wins those matchups.

27 Sep 2018 23:31:45
But getting back to the original post. The Jets wouldn't make the trade because they are giving up the most valuable piece and taking back a lesser piece without being compensated for it. There, plain and simple, without calling any of the players in the OP bad players.

Next summer it could be different, but there is no reason forthe Jets to make this trade now.

28 Sep 2018 02:51:22
aight let's just not trade for any more jets players. they don't want to improve, they don't need rentals, they're too good, but are also too good to need to add young oieces. They don't nee to trade UFAs like Myers but also don't need rentals like Duchene at the expense of logan stanley.

in all seriousness tho, i'd 100% take hanifin than trouba as a leaf fan. better defensively, better all round player imo, better contract, younger. i don't know, troubas a good dman, but his asks are insane, and he's worse defensively imo.

even tho trouba is a rhd while hanifin is a lhd, i'd take hanifin. and i'd take hanifin or nylander. but hanifin>>>trouba.

28 Sep 2018 03:11:12
Sure Joe, you can believe whatever you want. You a flat earther as well?

I choose to exist in reality. Where Hanifin is a 21 year old all-star defenseman (another accolaide that Trouba has yet to achieve, but to be fair, the all star game is after New Years and Trouba is usually hurt by November) that is younger, cheaper and under long term contract compared to your over-rated buddy Trouba. Sorry to trigger you with facts about who is more valuable. I'll let you get back to delusional island with NBR and Pinball.

28 Sep 2018 05:42:06
Topshelf, that is fine, if you prefer the inferior player, more power to you.

Unsportsmanlike, lol, you're actually trying to use all star selections as a player valuation. I thought you said you watch hockey. You can't with that kind of reasoning. Hilarious. Again, if you prefer the worse player, that's great, because neither of you are getting Trouba!

28 Sep 2018 11:14:41
trouba for marner + nylander + kapanen + rielly.

book it.

28 Sep 2018 11:20:30
Sure -- career accolaides like all-star selections, fantasy rankings, dynasty lists -- you know, things that are grounded in reality empirically vs. you just saying Trouba is more valuable because it doesn't hurt your feelings.

28 Sep 2018 14:57:32
Unsportsmanlike, you should have pulled out the big guns and looked into their plus minus ratings. I mean if you're going to judge on stupid things based on things like each team HAVING to have an all star selection or fantasy (grounded in reality, lol), then go really silly.

I prefer things like advanced stats, you know, things ACTUALLY based on reality and on hockey.

Sorry reality doesn't line up with your homeristic views.

28 Sep 2018 15:40:37
Tell these Jets homers Hedman is better than Trouba and they'll disagre.

28 Sep 2018 15:49:36
if your going by advanced statistics, why do you call Gardiner barely a top6 dman? lol, not advanced stats, just call urself a homer.

28 Sep 2018 17:14:14
Came up with a simple four-step get rich quick scheme:

1. Join marcus's fantasy league
2. Draft Winnipeg players
3. Take advantage of his blatant homerism and trade said Winnipeg players for much better players (you can scroll through the archives on this site and pick a few dandies like Trouba and a first for Karlsson or Morrissey for Hanifin; there's plenty to choose from) .
4. Win pool and profit.

28 Sep 2018 17:20:49
Yeah, look up advanced stats on Jake Gardiner. You said he couldn’t crack jets roster lol

Relative shot attempt metrics he’s 2nd in the NHL among defensemen over the past 3 seasons, relative goals against (takes a little more of the quality of scoring chances given up), he’s 9th. While putting up 31, 43 and 52 points over that span lol so you’re an advanced stats guy, but Gardiner couldn’t play top 6 in Winnipeg and Trouba is a #1 Dman?! Lol you’re a joke.

28 Sep 2018 18:30:56
Well if we're making stuff up now, it is much easier to argue points. I have NEVER said Gardiner couldn't crack the top six. He's a second pair offensive defenseman, nothing wrong with that.

I HAVE actually said the Jets don't NEED Gardiner and wouldn't want to downgrade from Trouba to Gardiner.

But you guys continue to made stuff up so you can feel better about being blind homers. Lol 😆.

28 Sep 2018 18:36:18
It's really funny how you Leaf homers can read and understand advanced stats for Gardiner, but can't read our understand them when it comes to Trouba.

I'm still waiting, for months actually, for you to provide any. ACTUAL evidence that Trouba is a bottom pairing defenseman as you contend. Why haven't you provided that? Oh yeah, because there isn't any.

Leaf homers lol.

28 Sep 2018 18:38:24
Unsportsmanlike, you're funny. No connection to reality at all.

28 Sep 2018 19:05:35
no one said trouba isn't a good dman.

everyone said trouba isn't god.

trouba is good, but youve consistently said gardiner isn't good. like genuinely ‘second pair, garbage d who won't xrack the jets’.

trouba is a good dman. he isn't worth a younger, extended LHD of himself w less offence. and neither is gardiner. Lol. stop tryingb to say cery trade involvibg the jets is bad. that's all we ask. cause they aren't all that bad.

28 Sep 2018 19:36:41
Topshelf, again you still have to make stuff up to try and make yourself feel better about your blind homerism. I have NEVER called Gardiner a garbage D. Instead, unlike most on this site, I call him what he is, a second pair defenseman, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't make him bad just because the Jets don't need him.

All I ask, is that you realise that trades don't take place in a vacuum. Just because the value looks good, doesn't mean the team should make the trade. Especially, when the offered player doesn't fill a need.

Whether you think Hanafin has more value because of his contract is irrelevant. The Jets are contending and downgrading, skill wise, from a player they need to one they don't, makes them worse.

Make an offer that helps the Jets and you may get some takers. Unfortunately, that is hard to do, because as much as you hate to admit it, the Jets are pretty damn good and don't have a glaring weakness they need to address like some teams.

28 Sep 2018 19:47:16
Yeah. had to have this difficult chat with Rambo a while back about being disconnected from reality.

When you have fans of all different teams on this site calling you out for being biased, it might be time to take a good, long look in the mirror. These aren't voices in your head; this is not some conspiracy trying to undervalue Jets players on this site. This is about your long history of stating that trades that are lopsided in the Jets favour or at least fair as not being good enough.

But hey, if living in your alternate reality helps protect your fragile mental ecosystem, have at it.

28 Sep 2018 21:03:28
You are wasting you time trying to reason with some of these hockey experts. Unlike the some of these posters your trying to reason with you look at a trade proposal from a point of view that includes how it affects the Jets not only in the present but future. If that makes you a homer then so be it. Better to be a homer than a no nothing. We'll have to wait for the next trade rumor to hopefully have a real hockey conversation.

28 Sep 2018 21:07:25
Hanifin is is no way better defensively than Trouba. Ask Canes fans. When they saw the trade they all said Hanifin had upside but was a tire fire in his own end.

Trouba doesn't have the offensive upside as your typically #1 dman and makes some bad passes but he is elite defensively.

28 Sep 2018 21:31:59
Unsportsmanlike, so, now your argument is "well, all the other Leaf homers agree with me, so I must be right" lol. That and "well, anything and anyone that doesn't use actual player abilities, agrees with me", so again I'm right.

28 Sep 2018 22:33:00
Pointing out that you have displayed the tendencies of a homer consistently on this site is not an argument, and illuminating that fans of the Leafs, Oilers (everyone on this site really) have also chronciled your bias is not proof of an argument any more than you could consider a group of people agreeing that water is wet as proof of the fact that water is indeed wet.

You do you man. Keep living that dream. Let me know if you want to but some land in Antarctica. Incredible investment opportunity.

29 Sep 2018 02:26:54
I have said all along I would take Trouba for sure. Never said he was a bad or a 3rd pairing guy. But you did say Jake Gardiner couldn’t crack jets roster lol

However, I just read over those replies and really got a laugh out of leafs fans being called ‘no nothings’ hahaha. The irony of that insult jumped out and screamed at me lol it’s like calling someone an idiot while misspelling idiot!

In all seriousness tho, Gardiner is better than Trouba in Defensive advances stats and puts up far more offense. So how Trouba is a ‘#1 Dman’ and Gardiner is ‘2nd pair offensive man, nothing more’ is astounding.

29 Sep 2018 04:52:25
I would suggest then, since Gardiner is a super star, that you hold onto him, quit trying to pawn him off on unsuspecting teams and quit begging for Trouba. The Leafs really shouldn't need Trouba with all this defensive elite talent.

Since you're now relying on making stuff up, please point me to the post where someone said Gardiner wouldn't crack the Jets lineup. I know you can't, because it hasn't been said.

But I know as a Leafs homer facts, although interesting, have no bearing on your arguments.

29 Sep 2018 06:12:54
Again, I’ve never said Gardiner is a superstar lol he’s a good top 4 Dman. I’ve never said Trouba is bad. He’s a good top 4 Dman. Would be top pair on Toronto. But don’t talk about not using facts.

Fact - you said you rely on advanced stats for your assessments. Correct?

Fact - over the past 3 seasons Gardiner is a top 10 Dman in Defensive catagories of advanced stats.

Fact - Trouba is not.

Fact - CF% of 55+ is considered ‘elite’

Fact - Gardiner career CF% 53.6. Gardiners playoff cf% (including his awful -5 in game 7 which I’m sure you will bring up) is 53.3.

Fact - troubas Career CF% is 48.1, playoffs 47.3.

Fact - over the same 3 years Gardiner has 126pts in 243gp (.52ppg)

Fact - Trouba has 78pts in 196gp (.40ppg) over the same span.

Fact - Gardiners a +7 CF relative player and in only his rookie season was he ever a negative CF at -0.01% while Trouba Is a -4 CF% relative to teammates over his career and never been in the positives for a single season.

Fact - Trouba has more D-zone starts than Gardiner.

Fact - I’m going to bed.

29 Sep 2018 11:36:06
Jim gardiner stats are better cause he doesn't kill penalties and is not used as a shutdown dman like trouba. Trouba is better defensively no matter what way you spin the stats. Gardiner is better on offence although he does get more and better quality powerplay minutes which helps a little. I like gardiner and have said it several times on here but both guys on same contract I take trouba every time so would just about everyone.

29 Sep 2018 14:18:07

Nah, nah, we all know that Gardiner isn't good defensively. Leaf fans do, most people do.

But, if we're solely using 'advanced stats' as Marcus claims, then Gardiner is far superior.

For that reason, you simply can't use advanced stats.
For that reason, Marcus should admit he's a homer. He claims to be going off of advanced stats ONLY [FACTS FACTS FACTS! ], when really, Gardiner is a far superior advanced stat dman than Trouba.

29 Sep 2018 16:54:05
Spin it all you want but Gardner is a defensive liability that the Leafs will have the pleasure of re-signing for $7 mil next year. He's part 6 in the Leafs venture into big time cap problems.

29 Sep 2018 16:57:48
All I did was point out that a guy who says advanced stats is everything, and says Trouba is far better than Gardiner can’t have it both ways. advanced Stats say quite the opposite. An eye test say Trouba is a lot better defensively, than Gardiner. Gardiner far better offensively than Trouba.

So if you consider both offense and Defense, and also consider both the eye test of actually watching them play and advanced stats, both players are good top 4 Dmen like I said all along. But one is not a superstar and one poor lol just not reality.

29 Sep 2018 17:05:43
And when there was talk of a Gardiner for Myers swap, these same jets fans said no way because Gardiners numbers are inflated by the PP. want another fact?

Jake Gardiner had 15 of his 52 pts on the PP last season

Tyler Myers had 17 of his 36 pts on the PP

Both played all 82 games.

So Marcus shouldn’t be talking about using facts and dumb arguments.

29 Sep 2018 18:12:37
Unbiased Jim
Stats don't show how many times Gardners defensive liabilities have hurt the Leafs when they needed him the most, and not only during game 7. He's a 28 year old pending UFA that will want $7 mil per year who makes the same mistakes now that an 18 year old rookie makes. But consider how pathetically weak the Leafs defense is I guess he is their good d-man.

29 Sep 2018 18:18:09
Yeah leave the advanced stats to guys like james tanner and let him make a fool of himself by using them.

29 Sep 2018 19:17:57
I’m not usually a big advanced stats guy at all. Marcus is the one who said use them lol then they show complete opposite of what he said they would, so now don’t use them? Haha figure it out guys, come on.

29 Sep 2018 19:19:01
If you are going to use advanced stats to try and prove a point, you need to use ones that keep the playing field level.

So, if you go by 5 on 5 points over the last two years Trouba is ranked 9th for defenseman in the NHL. So, on a level playing field Trouba, who according to Leafs homers, has no offence, is far ahead of both "Leafs offensive juggernaut" defenseman Reilly and Gardiner.

Then if you look at what is generally accepted as the best advanced stat for rating the defensive ability of defenseman, xG, Trouba is again near elite at the top of the pack while Reilly and Gardiner lag far behind.

When you level the playing field and don't cherry pick stats here and there, but instead look at the whole picture, Trouba is superior to both Gardiner and Reilly offensively and defensively.

You can't have it both ways. So, Jim and Slappers shouldn't be making dumb arguments with cherry picked stats, unless they are prepared to admit they are wrong, especially on the offensive abilities of Trouba and Gardiner.

29 Sep 2018 20:54:57
I guess we’ll see how things play out. Somehow the leafs with their “pathetic” defense are still rated above the jets in Vegas odds. I guess someone must think the leafs forwards, goalies and coaching staff are FAR superior than the jets.

29 Sep 2018 21:05:13
This is not the first time we’ve heard Joe say that the leafs are “begging” for Trouba. I thought you’d be smart enough to understand the circumstances, I was wrong. There is not a ton of young, RH defenseman available. Being that Trouba is the 3rd best defenseman in the league after Byfuglien and Myers, he should be playing a bigger role. This is why you hear Trouba’s name in trade proposals.

30 Sep 2018 02:18:51
Lol good read! From a neutral (Canucks fan) I'll take Trouba over Hannifin.

30 Sep 2018 02:51:09
Another hilarious post by a Leafs homer, Vegas odds. Lol. Who cares about Vegas odds. The games are played on the ice and last season the Jets finished far ahead of the Leafs, even though the Leafs played in probably the easiest division in the NHL and the Jets played in the toughest.

Then in the playoffs, despite the Leafs getting their preferred matchup and having a relatively easy route, the Leafs still ended up as first round fodder. While the Jets made it all the way to the conference finals, despite having the toughest route.

I know it is hard on Leafs fans that the Jets have accomplished more in less than 10 years than the Leafs have in over 50.

The smart money is on the Leafs being first round road kill once again and the Jets advancing far past that.

30 Sep 2018 03:56:12
Although, Leafs17, I do appreciate a Leafs homer finally coming out and admitting that the reason they are always begging for Trouba, is that he's a damn good defenseman and young to boot. Something that every team in the league wants and the exact reason the Jets won't trade him for a downgrade.

See it wasn't so hard to admit that!

30 Sep 2018 06:48:46
Must be leaf homers that posts the Vegas odds. I’m not thinking the leafs are winning the cup but you seem to have planned the parade for the jets.

30 Sep 2018 06:56:46
I do understand that the game is played on the ice, however, I do believe that the people that make the odds are smarter than ”memarcusjoe”. Someone gets paid to pick the odds, someone doesn’t.

30 Sep 2018 18:03:09
I love how I wrote, “ there is not a ton of young, RH defenseman available” and Joe turns it into me thinking every team in the league wants him. What a tool.

30 Sep 2018 18:23:26
That is always the mark of someone who doesn't have facts or knowledge to back up their statements. Start calling names like a six year old. Lol.

No matter how much you beg. You still can't have Trouba!

Another huge fail for a Leafs homer.

01 Oct 2018 04:17:06
Trouba is greedy and selfish and injury prone, he wants full time pay to work only part time hours. Nylander is greedy and selfish and soft like a marshmallow. He wants to be paid like a superstar, when all he really is only lucky to be the 4th wheel (or is that 5th wheel if we include Marleau) on Leafs monster truck of a team.

I would love to dump Nylander for RHD, but not for Trouba. I’d be wanting someone who is a little more team oriented and not willing to hold team hostage during contract negotiations. Let’s face it, if you think negotiations with Nylander haven’t been going so well, just imagine negotiating with Trouba next year.

Both Nylander and Trouba can take their play somewhere else that wants to overpay them. Both are very good players, yes, but their actions off the ice seem to indicate a “me first” philosophy and sets a bad example to their teammates. Jets are in very similar situation as Leafs right now, and if they overpay Trouba, it could lead to a devestaring cascade effect where everyone on the team coming up for renewal will be pushing for more money or holding out. Stop the bleeding at the source. Cut out the cancer before it consumes the rest of the team.

01 Oct 2018 05:26:22
LeafsGM says it pretty dead on. And MemarcusJoe, what has Winnipeg acomplished in 10 years that leafs haven’t in 50? Lol they haven’t won the cup. They went to one west final. Leafs went to a west final too lol and a cpl east finals. I don’t get it.

01 Oct 2018 05:34:51
Jets made the playoffs once since returning to Winnipeg before this season. They were swept in the 1st round. This year made the conference final and lost in 5. Where is the team success for the ‘last 10 years’ that other teams are supposed to envy?! Lol jets have a good team, I like their roster and their chances, but rubbing in the last 10 years as a success is a joke. Last 10 months?! Sure, You’ve got something there lol.

23 Sep 2018 17:15:57
Obviously not realistic based on some cap stuff but here we go.

WPG: Scheifele ($6.125M)
EDM: McDavid ($12.5M)

With Scheifele half the price of McDavid I think this would be intriguing for the Oilers. Scheifele is an elite #1 Center and McDavid is a generational #1 Center. I think the Oilers would do this trade and the Jets would too if they could afford him under the cap. Thoughts?

23 Sep 2018 17:32:44
Oilers retain %50 on McDavid and add Bouchard, 2019 1st, 2020 1st and Mcloed. And Jets just add Perreault to even it out.
Good post.

23 Sep 2018 18:14:34
Not even sure why people post trades with McDavid. I guess, the big question is. who is coming back from Winnipeg. Trouba.? A first. . at the end of the deal. do the Oilers even save any money, after the other peices coming back?

23 Sep 2018 18:16:02
I can’t tell if this is a troll or is dead serious.

If its a troll, not too impressive, still better than Rambo.

If its serious. Well. Uh. Well. Uh. Lol.

23 Sep 2018 18:54:14
Say what you want but Schifele was battling in the conference finals while McDavid was out golfing. 1 player can’t do it all like you oilers fans think. I’ll take Mackinnon+ Schifele over McDavid anyday.

23 Sep 2018 19:00:48
What tf was the point of this post lol.

23 Sep 2018 20:32:01
Every team would want McDavid but many would not want his contract as it limits what a team can pay for a supporting cast. Moot point as the Oilers will not be trading McD in the near future.

23 Sep 2018 22:36:29
Mcdavid at 12.5 I’m pretty sure all 30 other teams would want that lol.

23 Sep 2018 22:37:06
But yes if they don’t got the cap room then they can’t have him ^.

24 Sep 2018 00:08:07
absolutely brilliant post. this is why I go on this site. personally I'd trade mcdavid for milan lucic but they're already on the same team so sadly it wouldn't work.

24 Sep 2018 15:44:42
I wouldn’t think the jets would have to give up that much. I mean it’s a big contract they’re taking back and oilers do need a defenseman so maybe Myers and a 4th. love the post a lot of thought went into this!

24 Sep 2018 16:57:30
Drop the pick on Myers and Oilers would have to add to McDavid.

24 Sep 2018 17:43:44
Normal fans

Schifele and Liane for McDavid and Lucic

= no from Winnipeg but fair trade

Oilers fans-

Liane, Schifele, Trouba, Helleybuck, Ehlers And Connor for McDavid, Lucic, Talbot and Sekera

= huge no from oilers McDavid is untouchable as he’ll lead the oilers to multiple cups

Next season- Winnipeg makes conference finals oilers miss playoffs.

24 Sep 2018 19:18:23
I’ve made the statement before on here that Winnipeg should want about as much for scheifele in a trade as Edmonton would want for Mcdavid because he’s 80% of the player signed long term for 45% of the money. However I would never suggest oilers actually trade mcdavid lol.

24 Sep 2018 19:19:49
My thinking was if a team approached the oilers and asked what it would take to get mcdavid. Oilers name the package. That team says forget it and calls jets instead, the package shouldn’t be a whole lot less if I’m jets management.

15 Sep 2018 02:08:51
Jets logan stanley Roslovic

Ottawa duchene

Connor sheiflle wheeler
Ehler duchene laine
Pourle little copp

Morrisly trouba
Niku bufflyn
Cheriot myers

15 Sep 2018 08:54:11
No thanks from Winnipeg. The Jets won't be able to afford Duchene next year and I wouldn't want to give up Roslovic for one year of Duchene.

15 Sep 2018 15:58:02
This trade only hurts the Jets long term. Duchene is not a superstar or a game changing centre that is signed long term at a reasonable contract, but a good #2 centre that will wan't way more $ than he will be worth. The Jets don't go near this trade and keep the money to help sign next years players that need new contracts.

15 Sep 2018 16:07:36
There is no way Dorion could get that good of a return for Duchene.

15 Sep 2018 19:16:33
You guys have got to stop posting Trades for Jets players. They are gold and would take massive overpayments and even then these hinders will still find a way to say it's not good enough.

15 Sep 2018 21:23:35

Complete homers.

16 Sep 2018 00:31:14
Yupp How about Duchene to the Oilers for Puljujarvi and Bouchard? Duchene to the Leafs for Nylander and Liljegren sounds fair.

16 Sep 2018 01:25:56
But both those pairings are better than this Jets pairing of players in this proposed posted trade 🤔🤔.

16 Sep 2018 02:10:21
Wouldn’t that be closer to say Khaira or Strome and Jones? Absolutely not Puljujarvi and Bouchard. Lol.

16 Sep 2018 03:03:38
Yes, please stop with terrible proposals for Jets players.

16 Sep 2018 03:38:17
Neither of the Jets players are compareble to pool party or Bouchard if we’re goinf off draft selections so that’s pretty dumb comment.

16 Sep 2018 07:11:26

16 Sep 2018 13:55:47
‘Nylander and liljegren’


16 Sep 2018 14:28:14
Ive agreed with the Jets fans a few times in terms of the deal just not making sense for Winnipeg but it’s getting bad guys. You’re not supposed to get better now and in the future in a trade if you do the other team screwed up. Typically going to have to trade now for future or future for now. They should be looking to trade a bit of future to solidify now.

12 Sep 2018 23:47:33
At the June 2019 Draft.

WPG: Trouba
NYI: Dobson, 1st Round Pick 2019

13 Sep 2018 03:38:36
So no from islanders. Lol.

13 Sep 2018 05:24:20
Another trade that doesn't help a contending team like the Jets at all. It would need to be a roster defenseman and/ or Dobson or the pick depending on the roster player. The Jets can't afford to give away a top pairing defenseman for a player who may never be as good and a pick.

Every one here will whine about Dobson's draft position, but a 12thOA pick isn't a lock to turn into a top pairing defenseman, just look at Nurse.

13 Sep 2018 15:45:52
This could look good for the Jets at the trade deadline if they can't resign Trouba and Dobson continues to develop his game. I still believe that there would be over 1/ 2 the teams in the NHL that would make the Jets a serious trade package for Trouba, and he could be worth more than this offer.

13 Sep 2018 21:25:35
I still don’t understand how and why you guys believe Trouba is worth so much.

13 Sep 2018 21:37:43
@McJesus, young, top pairing RHD is the hardest thing to find in the NHL along with 1C. That's why Trouba would be expensive to acquire.

12 Sep 2018 20:17:10
to Columbus

to Winnipeg

Adding Trouba's old pal Seth Jones may be the best thing Winnipeg could do to keep him. Obviously, though, they will have to give up an awful lot to get him.

12 Sep 2018 20:41:35
No thanks from Columbus yikes.

12 Sep 2018 21:08:49
Jones is a RHD, and the jets don’t need more RHD, If the jets get Werenski and Trouba goes to Columbus, maybe you can get a conversation started and add a few things on both sides, Jones wouldn’t be the same on the left side, Neither would Trouba

Winnipeg D Lines
Werenski/ Big Buff
Morrisey/ Myers
Kulikov/ camp battles spot

Columbus D lines
Nuitivarra/ Jones
Murray/ Trouba
Carlsson/ Savard

Obviously there are more pieces, especially if Werenski doesn’t start the season healthy, but this is a start, they both have been injured and both teams could trade later on to improve if they have to, it all works out.

12 Sep 2018 21:14:31
I can't see CLB moving Jones for that. Morrissey is good, but CLB would want more than a late first to make the swap.

12 Sep 2018 21:53:59
Most people don't see Morrissey enough to really see how good a d-man he is. He's a 23 year old #1 shut down left shot d-man on the #2 team in the NHL. He is that good. I hope the Jets lock him up for 8 years. I really can't see the Jets ever trading him in the near future. Trouba on the other hand will be gone at the draft if he doesn't sign a long term deal with the Jets.

12 Sep 2018 22:10:00
CLB isn't trading either Jones or Werenski.

12 Sep 2018 22:48:31
Jones is definitely the most valuable dman in the NHL when considering 2 way play, age and Contract. Don’t think Columbus would consider a Liane And Trouba package for Jones.

It would require a Piece like Mathews+ for Jones ( overpayment ) .

12 Sep 2018 23:15:51
Morrisey is good but he's not on the same level as jones and a late 1st rounder doesn't even come close to making up the difference.

13 Sep 2018 01:16:49
Here comes vb to make another stupid statement that’s no where near true. If Columbus was offered Laine and Trouba for Jones they’d take that in a second you’re honestly a dunce.

13 Sep 2018 06:27:20
but adding panarin with Jones and adding laine and trouba is close, with some small details,

13 Sep 2018 11:13:29
You guys drastically underate Jones. Jones=Dahlin value wise.

13 Sep 2018 14:35:39
Haha jets fans are funny, when y’all turn into Toronto?

12 Sep 2018 17:31:23
As you can all tell I am obviously a leafs fan, but I was wondering if something like this could happen

To Ottawa:
Trouba, 2019 1st, Petan, retain 1.3 mill of Ceci's contract
To Winnipeg:
Duchene, Ceci, 2019 3rd, 2020 4th

This would definitely help Winnipeg and give Ottawa something with value back for Duchene, and something to kind of eas the pain of trading Karlsson later on, it would get them 2 first rounders at absolute minimum in the end to make up for their lost first
I added Ceci in the trade just so Winnipeg has a backup plan in case Myers goes to FA next summer, although his cap is something they may want to lower so they ask Ottawa to retain around 1.3 mill of his salary
I don't think Duchene plays on re-signing in Ottawa anyway so this may be a trade where they can actually get something for him


12 Sep 2018 18:12:53
No interest from Winnipeg. The Jets won't be able to afford to resign Duchene and trading Trouba this year makes the Jets worse. There is just no incentive there for the Jets to do this.

12 Sep 2018 18:29:12
Why would the Jets trade for a UFA in Duchene and a RFA in Ceci. The Jets have enough of their own players to sign and they don't need to trade for Duchene who will leave at the end of the season because he will want $8+ mil and the Jets will have better use for that money. They already have an arbitration headache in Trouba so why down grade and trade for another one in Ceci? Then for this they give up a piece of their future in a first round pick. They have the chemistry and internal pieces to make a deep run for the cup and two unhappy perennial losers won't do much to increase the Jets chances. The Jets aren't in business to improve the Sens future.

12 Sep 2018 18:32:18
Trouba wouldn't want to be in Ottawa over Winnipeg. Lol.

12 Sep 2018 18:44:31
That is my point, this is a short term solution for the Jets until they can find someone else who they can bring in, they don’t have to re-sign Duchene, and Trouba is replaced by Ceci, who won’t cost as much and who won’t be a huge d**k when it comes to RFA like Trouba was, and won’t cost as much so they have more money to re-sign Myers, Morrisey and other pending UFA and RFA, they still have about 10 mill in space without LTIR so they can 100% do this.
Oh and one more thing, there is no way Duchene is getting more then 7 mill, he had less points then Nylander and Nylander is going to get at max 7, I just don’t see it happening

The Jets are stupid stacked on right side defence, they downgrade that to upgrade their center, if they want a center it’s going to cost Trouba or Myers, just like if the leafs want Parayko it will cost Nylander, they have the depth so 100% they can do it, it’s just a question of who they target
Again they don’t have to re-sign Duchene, it’s a short term solution until they can find something else.

12 Sep 2018 19:32:08
The Jets are stacked on the right side. now, but of their next 4 top d-man prospects in Niku, Stanley, Poolman and Samberg only Poolman is a right shot. If the Jets can't re-sign Trouba and had to trade him at the draft, which would be hastened with the re-signing of Myers or the development of Poolman, they would want another top 1/ 2 d-man, or a couple of #1 draft choices, or a couple of A prospects. Duchene and Ceci don't fit the bill long term and are potential re-signing headaches.

12 Sep 2018 20:31:04
The extra 15 points Duchene brings over Little isn't worth losing a top pairing RHD and replacing him with Cici. This trade makes the Jets worse this year just like the RNH trade below.

12 Sep 2018 22:08:03
Are the Jets that in need of centres?

12 Sep 2018 22:30:36
Delusional the Jets have Scheifele, Little, Lowry, Roslovic Petan, Perreault that are NHL ready and Spacek McKenzie, Harkins and Stallard that are a couple years away. Just because the Jets didn't resign Stastny doesn't mean they are desperate for a center. They didn't sign free agents as they now have a lot of internal depth at every position.

12 Sep 2018 23:09:43
Nope not at all. Duchene would be great, but would be a luxury, not a need. Definitely not worth giving up half of our top pairing for.

12 Sep 2018 03:39:52
Jets trade Trouba, Petan and Lemieux to



Nurse and Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers get cap space and 2 young affordable NHL’ers and if Trouba doesn’t sign with EDM flip him for a nice package.

12 Sep 2018 05:16:49
Lol. Noooo.

12 Sep 2018 05:33:02
Dont think pecan and lemieux make up for nuge.

12 Sep 2018 06:49:11
No from oil.

12 Sep 2018 15:06:28
No from both teams.

12 Sep 2018 15:53:24
Lmao this is a hell Fukin yes from Winnipeg. Wow.

12 Sep 2018 15:57:09
As I've said before, Trouba won't be traded before the end of the season. Also, RNH and his contract is not worth the downgrade from Trouba to Nurse.

12 Sep 2018 16:52:13
What am i reading? Jets would take this 100%.
Oilers would never accept that offer though.

12 Sep 2018 18:16:46
apparently if you’re a Winnipeg fan you have 0 brain cells.

12 Sep 2018 18:17:18
TT, why would the Jets do this? RNH would be a luxury, not a need and the downgrade from Trouba to Nurse would hurt the Jets far more than RNH would help. The Jets are contending now and this trade makes the Jets worse.

You need to consider team needs in a trade. There is no reason for the Jets to do this.

12 Sep 2018 18:33:24
Wow. Crazy jets homers. Lol.

12 Sep 2018 20:35:56
So, the Jets fans are homers, yet no one can tell us how this makes the Jets better. RNH produces about the same as Little, is worse defensively and has a bad contract. Plus to take on him we also have to take a large downgrade from Trouba to Nurse.

So, please detail how this makes the Jets better this year.

This should be fun!

12 Sep 2018 22:43:40
memarcusjoe sometimes its a waste of time and energy asking certain posters to explain why they thing the Jets wouldn't do sill trade proposals. They think the Jets will be happy to take other teams headaches off their hands for the Jets proven good players. The Jets don't make stupid trades, toy with their chemistry or sign free agents to crazy contracts. That is why the Jets are the #2 ranked team in the NHL, with a deep prospect pool that makes them a favorite to win the cup. Let the bottom feeders post silly uneducated reply's as to why the Jets should make trades that only the Oilers or Canadiens GMs would make. Try to ignore the childish responses to you posts.

13 Sep 2018 00:41:02
Nurse would probably be your number 1 left D. Jets centre depth isn’t the greatest and RNH would improve that. Playing with Ehlers and Liane I’m sure he’d put up amazing numbers. Not as good as his point per game with McDavid but maybe 65 ish? Also Nurse has the potential to put up as good or better numbers than Trouba this season.

13 Sep 2018 02:40:50
I certainly agree Islandjet. I was just hoping to hear some of the crazy reasoning as to why the Jets would do it.

I mean RNH produces the same as Little, is worse defensively and costs more, so that can't be the reason. So, we're not getting much help there. Plus we have to take a major downgrade from Trouba to Nurse. An unneeded player like RNH with his bad contract isn't enough incentive.

It would have been fun to see their logic.

13 Sep 2018 03:05:48
‘Erik karlsson and matt duchene for nic petan and mathieu perreault.

Oh wait duchenes a luxur and so is karlson cause all jets players are good and we can't upset team chemistry because wre the best team in the league and don't need to make adjustments. ’

Cmon guys be real. I don't care if RNH is a luxury. he's not a cap dump and is bettter than Nic Petan and whatever. You take that deal. Idc.

13 Sep 2018 05:33:07
Ebs, Nurse would only be on the second pairing. He's not as good as Morrissey. Also, at this point in his development I highly doubt Nurse will ever be as good as Trouba is now.

An unneeded player like RNH just isn't worth the downgrade on defense. Contending teams don't make trades just for of it.

13 Sep 2018 14:26:43
I would change it this way.

Edmonton Trades

Jets Trade

13 Sep 2018 15:41:20
It's an absolute waste of time trying to have conversations with you homers tho. You've proven just how completely bad a homers you guys are the last bunch of months getting called out by everyone in this site. It's entertaining tho.

13 Sep 2018 15:47:09
Congrats Pinball. You've taken a bad trade for the Jets and made it worse. Now the Jets are giving away the two best players in the deal.

13 Sep 2018 17:49:46
memarcusjoe and I aren't posting these ridiculous trade proposals, just commenting how they wouldn't help the Jets but would rob them of their talented draft and develop players. Not being blind homers but realistic in the trade proposals. If RNH and Nurse are so great why are they constantly being peddled in trades? The Jets don't need these players to improve as they are one of the top teams in the NHL. Some of these may look good at the draft if they can't re-sign Trouba long term, but for now the Jets would have no I repeat NO interest in the Oilers winger, as he can't cut it as a center, RNH and Nurse who would be lucky to be on the Jets 2nd pairing. So grow up and stop with the insults and give real hockey reasons why the Jets would want to do these trades that only help the Oilers.

13 Sep 2018 19:21:11
Islandjet is right we have all these Leaf and Oiler homers telling us how great these trades are for the Jets, yet they can't tell us how it makes the Jets better.

@ yupp. Here's your chance to make your point. Please detail how downgrading on defense and taking on an overpaid center makes the Jets better?

13 Sep 2018 19:46:29
Nurse is rarely ever in trades so “peddling” is just wrong. And when RNH is in trades it’s usually other teams fans trading for him.
I’ll agree with Nuge being a little overplayed but he can’t cut it at centre? Lol he has a reputation for being a really good two way guy and people loved him at centre. It just so happens the Oil have two centres that are better than him and weak winger depth.
Your argument and reply’s to why this is bad is just “little is better than RNH and morrisey is better than Nurse” good arguments.
Nuge would 100% make your team better and would probably thrive on your second line with the talent that’s on it and he would make little expandable. Trouba is only in trade rumours because it doesn’t look like he wants to sign in Winnipeg. The jets have good RD depth so it would 100% make sense to get solid value for him and upgrade other parts of your team while getting a really solid young LD (a position that isn’t very deep on the jets) in return.

13 Sep 2018 22:45:28
You make good points, but the thing you're forgetting is that to get the improvement you say we would get in RNH, we have to give up Trouba. The cost of losing Trouba and only getting Nurse hurts the Jets far more than any supposed benefit RNH would give us. So, the Jets end up being worse after this trade. That's why it doesn't work for Winnipeg.

13 Sep 2018 23:06:39
Well I disagree that they get worse but one of my points is it would be a smart move because it’s looking like Trouba won’t resign.

14 Sep 2018 01:01:56
Finally a really good and thought out explanation of why you think this trade is fair for both teams. Although I don't agree that this trade makes the Jets better I really respect you for posting a good defense of your position. I just wish some other poster on this site took time to explain why they liked or disliked a post.

14 Sep 2018 02:27:56
Trouba resigning is a problem for next summer.

10 Sep 2018 12:21:29
Mathieu Perreault (C - 4.15 Million x 3 Years) + Marko Dano (RW - 0.80 Million x 1 Year) to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Lawson Crouse (LW - 0.85 Million x 1 Year) + Laurent Dauphin (C - 0.70 Million x 1 Year) + 2019 3rd Round Draft Selection.

- Winnipeg trades away 4 million in cap space, and although Perreault is a good 40 point man, for 4 million as a 3C with Adam Lowry and a top heavy team, he seems like an accessory. In order to resign Laine/ Trouba/ Myers, etc. the Jets will need to shed cap. Crouse hasn’t developed as expected, but he's a top10 pick from only 3 years ago - could become a decent 3rd Liner for WPG at cheap. Perreault may be able to get more, but teams may see WPG as needy for cap space, and valuations for guys like him may lower.
- Arizona acquires a really good 3C who can move up the lineup, as the total transition on the team continues. Unlike WPG, ARZ is more of an offence by committee, and can afford to have a higher cap player lower in the lineup. Crouse may hurt as a loss, but with many younger stars, Crouse, who hasn't fully developed, may be a viable trade piece.

Arizona Lineup:

Clayton Keller - Derek Stepan - Christian Dvorak
Mathieu Perreault - Alex Galchenyuk - Richard Panik
Brendan Perlini - Dylan Strome - Michael Grabner
Vinnie Hinostroza - Brad Richardson - Christian Fischer
(Marko Dano, Nick Cousins)

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Jason Demers
Niklas Hjalmarsson- Jakob Chychuryn
Alex Goligoski - Jordan Oesterle
(Kevin Connauton)

Winnipeg Lineup:

Kyle Connor - Mark Schiefele - Blake Wheeler
Nikolaj Ehlers - Bryan Little - Patrik Laine
Lawson Crouse - Adam Lowry - Jack Roslovic
Brandon Tanev - Laurent Dauphin - Andrew Copp
(Nic Petan, Mason Appleton)

Ben Chiarot - Dustin Byfuglien
Josh Morrissey - Jacob Trouba
Dmitry Kulikov - Tyler Myers
(Sami Niku)

10 Sep 2018 15:45:28
Winnipeg would say no. This trade makes them worse this year and they don't need to move Perreault this year. Next year might be a different story.

10 Sep 2018 16:56:32
I believe that both Crouse and Dauphin would have a hard time making the Jets as they have Petan, Appleton, Vesalainen and Lemieux fighting for spots on the team. However I do think Crouse could be a good addition if he was the type of player that would use his size on the 4th line, but Perreault is one of Maurices favorites. Interesting trade though.

11 Sep 2018 14:22:06
I personally would do this trade, it would be hard for me to let Dano go as he is still a fairly young piece with some potential though. as joe said it would make jets worse this year and they only need the cap next year if they did a trade. Island also made a valid point of crouse and dauphin potentially not being able to make the team with other players fighting for spots.
I do like your explanations for why each sides to this, but maybe add a prospect or pick from jets as arizona is taking on all the extra salary?

11 Sep 2018 16:10:46
@pkane, how do you agree with both jets fans that jets shouldn’t make this trade as it is presented and then end by saying “jets add a prospect or pick”?! If you think it doesn’t make sense for Winnipeg as it sits, why would them adding more valuable pieces make it better?

11 Sep 2018 18:50:36
Pkane on some whack stuff.

12 Sep 2018 09:20:55
what i was saying was from a jets point of view i would do it, from arizona point of view i'd want something extra for taking on the extra salary.

23 Sep 2018 00:13:42
im a wpg jets fan who lives in winnipeg 6 blocks from the rink accross the street from laine's. he plays hockey with all the kids mine included.

1. dano is a center and the forth on copper lowry tanev line all puck hogs were not trading any of them

2. mp 85 that's his tag here nope not going anywhere just yet like u said to easy to play anywhere in line up

3. most of the jets are signing team freindly long term contracts
the has been built 1 player at a time by drafting them

4. just because you believe these trades are posted is because everyone wants a part of them. wake up we loaded see is win a cup or 2 then we will take trade.

05 Sep 2018 03:48:57
Now that WPG signed Wheeler and will have to sign Laine and Connor to big contracts next year they'll need to shed some cap space. Probably either Little, Perrault or both most likely after this season. The players still have value so here's some proposals:

WPG: Little
MON: Juulsen


WPG: Perrault
BOS: 2nd Round Pick 2019

Thoughts? Or comment some suggestions

05 Sep 2018 04:39:24
No on the first one, yes on the 2nd.

05 Sep 2018 05:57:29
Little would be Montreal’s best centre, but by default. Not nearly good enough to change anything there and therefore they should stick to a plan and keep the younger, cheap asset with good potential.

Don’t know if Boston needs Perrault. They have their veteran forwards under contract (Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, krejci, backes) and had a good crop of youth (deBrusk, Henien, Donato etc) take steps last year that should fill up most of the top 9. But the price is good. Someone would add him for a 2nd rounder.

05 Sep 2018 15:21:15
The Jets would jump on these deals if Roslovic has chemistry centering Laine and Ehlers and one of Petan, Dano, Lemieux or Appleton are ready to replace Perreault in the bottom 6. The Jets save $ and the Habs get a #1 center, for them, as he would be a #3 with the Jets. I could see Perreault being traded to Columbus or Vegas as they both would want him more than Boston.

05 Sep 2018 16:49:35
Yes, both of these would be good deals for the Jets. But, Montreal needs to stick with going young. Little won't lift them to a playoff spot, so they need to stay the course.

07 Sep 2018 01:46:14
I think I'd rather go with daneult as a number 1 center then trade assets for bryan little.

03 Sep 2018 17:16:27
At the deadline

DAL: Seguin
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Petan, Nogier


OTT: Duschene
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Comrie

03 Sep 2018 18:47:19
Bruh first of all you’re a homer if you think either of those trades will work and have you heard of salary cap before.

03 Sep 2018 19:03:53
The Jets would do neither trade as signing these two players after this season would be very hard as Winnipeg have Wheeler, Trouba, Connor, Laine, Myers, Tanev and Charoit to re-sign next season. There is only so much money available and both Seguin and Duchene would want way too much $ and that would put the Jets in cap troubles. The Jets trade would be giving up way too much of their future for what would be rental players.

03 Sep 2018 19:47:30
To much of their future for seguin/ duchene. Really are you joking. A late first plus petan who is a bust and nogier who was injured most of last year. Or Comrie who will at most be the backup for the next few years and I'm still not completely sold on him.
Ottawa and Dallas say no.

03 Sep 2018 20:22:13
Islandjet I’m not going to be rude here but jets are literally giving up essentially nothing in either trade and the only “future” is the 1st round pick. If jets could actually acquire either player at this cost and they don't make that trade then I’ll be lost for words. Adding one of those players can improve their cup chances drastically and the fact you wouldn’t make this trade blows my mind.

03 Sep 2018 21:20:15
AJO1 I have to give you props for having the guts to post trade proposals knowing that most likely you won't have anyone think that they are fair trades. Good for you on doing it.

04 Sep 2018 02:41:09
A late first and b-c prospects for top line players and jets say no?! Lol insane.

04 Sep 2018 03:48:58
DUCHENE . its really not that hard to spell .

04 Sep 2018 03:57:54
How does it take guts to post a dumb trade lol.

30 Aug 2018 13:25:35
Oiler nurse rng

Jets connor little

PERREAULT sheifle wheeler
Ehlers rnh laine
Vesalainen Roslovic copp

Morrissey trouba
Nurse buff
Niku myers

Connor mcdavid little
Reider drias jesse.p
Lucic strome caigula

Kelfbom larson
Russel benning
Auvitu bouchard

30 Aug 2018 14:28:39
Lol. Conner would be a good winger for Edm. But not as that price of giving up Nuge and Nurse. Jeeze.
Auvitu is in the KHL I believe. You're thinking or Sekera (injured), Gravol, Jerabek or Garrison (PTO) battling for that spot as of now.

30 Aug 2018 15:40:22
This seems to be a fair trade for both sides. I think this trade would hurt the Oilers as they don't have the depth on defense to give up Nurse and not receive a proven d-man in return.

30 Aug 2018 15:55:33
Value wise I agree with Islandjet, this is fairly close. However, I also agree that the Oilers can't afford to lose Nurse and shouldn't be looking to get older. On the Jets side, they don't need Nurse and his new contract would hurt. Same with RNH, the Jets just can't afford his contract with the other signings they have to make.

30 Aug 2018 16:33:46
Yaaaaa this isn't close you Jet homers.
Of course you're saying it's fair because you win the trade and you know it.

30 Aug 2018 18:15:11
I don't see how this is fair at all, edm gets pwned. Nurse alone woulda been 2nd in points and tied for best +/ - on Winnipeg and play for a much weaker team, connor is a good piece but but wouldn't trade nuge for little, it's not even close and young de are way more valuable than young wingers so Winnipeg wins this trade.

30 Aug 2018 18:50:14
Hahaha as if this is a fair trade what a joke oilers get hosed.

30 Aug 2018 19:58:24
Haha so we finally see the Jets homers approve a trade.

Go figure it's an absolute steal for Winnipeg.

30 Aug 2018 21:12:28
Winnipeg’s finest at it again.

31 Aug 2018 23:14:07
I feel like they would want a d, like Myers or niku.

27 Aug 2018 21:54:58
OTT: Karlsson

- R. Nugent Hopkins
- O. Klefbom
- '19 1st
- '20 2nd


OTT: Klefbom

WPG: Trouba

Dzingel - Duchene - Boedker
Nuge - Brown - Stone
Tkachuk - Pageau - Ryan
Smith - Chlapik - White

Chabot - Trouba
Wolanin - Ceci
Boroweicki - Wideman

27 Aug 2018 22:15:13
So Sens Get Trouba, RNH, 1st and 2nd for a year of Karlsson?! Lol not going to happen.

27 Aug 2018 22:28:07
There is no chance the Jets trade Trouba for Klefbom even though the trade is fair. 3 of the Jets next 4 NHL ready d-men are left shots so the need for a lefty is not as big as it was a year or two ago. The Jets will either sign Trouba long term or move him at the 2019 draft. There are many teams that want a skilled #1 pairing r-shot d-man and will line up to get Trouba from the Jets.

27 Aug 2018 22:36:42
Yeah that is preposterous.

27 Aug 2018 23:13:12
I highly doubt the Oilers would give up that much for one year of Karlsson. Plus, the Jets wouldn't do a 1 for 1 swap of Trouba and Klefbom.

27 Aug 2018 23:50:24
Well i would assume that there would be an extension in place for Karl.

27 Aug 2018 23:53:27
And wpg only gets klefbom for Trouba. jeez.

28 Aug 2018 00:16:03
If the jets think that trouba won't sign long term (still not sure if it's he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg or his agent and him are overvaluing him) then I'd do that trade.

28 Aug 2018 01:09:38
That would be great for the Sens if they could pull this off. I can't see these trades happening.

28 Aug 2018 01:28:52
That's too much from EDM, take out huge and put in a good prospect.

28 Aug 2018 03:49:43
Lol. If Klefbom could get Trouba then I think why wouldn't Edm just do that separate trade and keep Nuge and the picks. Seems like a better deal there.

28 Aug 2018 16:23:08
@Hoff saying you assume there’s a contract in place for Karlsson after I say it’s too much for 1 year is fine if you’re just commenting on the thread. But it’s your thread lol if it's contract in place, just say it is or it isn’t, you don’t need to assume.

29 Aug 2018 00:08:17
@Unbiased Jim . I thought you would be able to assume that there would be . guess not. there's a reason teams are allowed to talk extensions with Karl before a trade.

29 Aug 2018 15:14:36
I’m aware of that. But he’s going to get traded to the best offer regardless (or should) . If he only wants to sign in Tampa, and yzerman has wind of this, he may not offer as much as he should, because technically he’s only trading for him for this year too if he would sign there for free in July. So Maybe oilers or Dallas etc offer more, or atleast an equal package and it gets him out of their division (which apparently matters to Ottawa) . There’s still multiple options with him. There’s no guarantee he ends up for the next 8 years at his #1 choice right away.

25 Aug 2018 16:28:21
WPG: Morrisey
CGY: Hannifin

25 Aug 2018 17:22:10
Its a fair trade proposal that would never happen. Morrissey is the Jets #1 left shot d-man and the Flames just traded for Hannifin. Neither team would do it.

25 Aug 2018 19:37:02
Winnipeg would do it. Calgary wouldn’t though.

25 Aug 2018 20:00:36
Um pretty sure Winnipeg would gladly do that trade but not Calgary.

25 Aug 2018 20:22:31
Calgary says no.

25 Aug 2018 22:17:48
I have not once seen one of these Peg fans suggest that Winnipeg would do a trade. Their players are simply far too valuable.

26 Aug 2018 15:38:37
A 23 man roster of untouchables lol the perfect team.

26 Aug 2018 21:59:33
As much as. I hate agreeing with the Jets fans on this page, in a year or 2 Morrissey will be the better dman. Severely underated.

27 Aug 2018 04:50:43
Yup. No reason to trade Morrissey. He's the the left half of the top pairing on the second best team in the NHL.

27 Aug 2018 11:53:52
why would calgary trade a player they literally just traded for this quickly?

27 Aug 2018 11:56:20
why would calgary do this if they just acquired him?

27 Aug 2018 13:22:57
Now I can disagree we the Jets fans once again. They are not the 2nd best team in the league. They are a damn good team but not 2nd best.

27 Aug 2018 13:56:22
‘Second best’


Season hasn't even started buddy. You just made the playoffs last year, and that's because your goalie finally decided to wake up and play decently. If he plays anywhere near where he was two years ago when yall brought in Steve Mason, yall aren't even a top10 team🤣🤣🤣. So quit tooting your horn too early.

27 Aug 2018 15:54:38
This site is funny. Lol. Facts have absolutely no place here. The Jets were the second best team in the NHL last year, but sometimes here, they weren't the second best team last season. Lol.

27 Aug 2018 16:19:52
The fact is that two teams went to the Stanly Cup Final. Jets were not one of them.

27 Aug 2018 17:42:18
Maybe we should wait to see if Winnipeg can put together more than one good season in franchise history before calling them the 2nd best team.

27 Aug 2018 18:21:57
Thunder turkey literally just won the argument so this should be done with now lol.

27 Aug 2018 18:49:41
Statistically on the surface they are the 4th to best team but analytically + a surface analysis ( roster on paper ) of their roster suggests other wise. I’ll take Pittsburgh, Toronto, Tampa, Nashville and Washington over then next season.

28 Aug 2018 08:42:51
Still the best Canadian team, . If Talbot returns to form then they may have a battle with Edmonton for that title . I think only team on paper that's better is Bolts. but I guess this is why games are played.
Best forward core in the leagues
Top 5 D core in the league
Vezina finalist.
Hard team to beat .
Not sure how they will pull it off, but has chance to be a BlackHawks kinda dynasty.

28 Aug 2018 21:02:45
Edmonton better then Toronto? What? Are you high? Talbot could be the best goalie ever and they still can’t make the playoffs with Milian Lucic as a top 6 forward.

28 Aug 2018 22:10:01
Sosa is a secret Oiler fan vbb’s. His favourite player is Draisaitl. I actually think Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton will have the cup back in Canada before long. To leave Toronto out of the conversation of best Canadian team is absurd. Typical of a Montreal/ Edmonton fan though I guess. However, Canadian teams haven’t done anything in a long time, nobody should be too high and mighty on them.

29 Aug 2018 01:14:58
Not high. but yes. Edmonton could be much better than T. O. ya. you got Tavares. however. did ya do anything to fix your real issues
. nope. and your 1 2of Mathews and Tavares. . well. Give me McDavid and Draisaitl any day.
All the hate on Lucic. well. also kinda what u need. Leafs are soft.
Everyone complains bout Sekera. well. probably a top 4 on your team.
A decent year from Talbot. and Oilers beat Leafs in 7 game series in 6.

29 Aug 2018 02:06:46
Lol. Leafs 17. not a secret. I like the Oilers. my second team forsure. any Canadian team I get behind, for some reason, jus not huge on Nucks or Sens. I even like your Leafs. yes, I like Drais., but no. fav is McDavid
Sorry Leaf fans. I jus see Oilers a goalie. away. possibly Talbot . to being far superior to your team

Ps. hey. your better than my Habs.

29 Aug 2018 03:31:17
Sosa, the Oilers d is nothing to write home about either and the leafs have proven wingers to go with their 1/ 2/ 3 center man. You’ve been quite critical of the leafs since the Tavares signing. I’m sure if there was a stud d man for them to sign they would have tried. They did get an excellent center in his prime and have players that can be traded for a defenseman, WHEN it’s the right deal. You don’t just drastically over pay because you need a RH d man.

29 Aug 2018 15:39:51
Ya I have been critical of the Leafs since the Tavsres signing. I believe they went off there course, ya sure adding a good centerman is always good. however, I just think this team coulda spent that money elsewhere. also. how does Mathews take this? He wants to be the man. but he's kinda second star now . I dunno. Leafs know what they are doing, I'm sure. they are the pros. I am not.

29 Aug 2018 18:00:27
I’m really not sure how you can say the oilers D is better then the leafs. Defensively they probably are but leafs have 2 dynamic Dman in Gardiner and Rielly and the leafs have 2 elite PKers in in Brown and Hyman the leafs defense is extremely underrated. Mathews and McDavid are really not that far apart yes McDavid is better but Mathews is the much better scorer and much better defensively. Tavares vs Drais imo isn’t a question. And The oilers wingers are about as good as the Marlies and is without a question the worst in the NHL.

29 Aug 2018 21:15:56
How do you know how Matthews feels? From everything I’ve read and interviews I’ve seen, he wants to win. Not every player is Jack Eichel. Obviously you didn’t read the rest of my response. If a Drew Doughty was available to be signed instead of Tavares, I’m sure they would have. Teams win with center depth. Of course they could’ve spent that money elsewhere but they can trade Nylander/ Kapanen/ Brown/ 1st or any combination to get a defenseman, WHEN it’s the right deal. Do you think any team would give the leafs a high end defenseman without a massive over payment? Also, McDavid is the only player on the oilers that is far superior to anyone on the leafs. You should take another look at their rosters.

23 Aug 2018 14:06:19
WPG: Trouba, 1st Round Pick 2019, Petan
OTT: Karlsson

23 Aug 2018 15:36:15
The Jets don't want any part of this trade as re-signing Karlsson would be too expensive. The Sens wouldn't want this trade as trying to convince Trouba to sign long term would be too frustrating and expensive. Plus I don't believe that Karlsson has fully healed from his foot injury.

23 Aug 2018 15:44:06
That is too much to pay for one year of Karlsson and the Jets won't be able to afford what Karlsson wants on his next contract. So, Winnipeg would have to say no.

15 Aug 2018 18:26:32
WPG: Kulikov
EDM: 6th Round Pick 2019

Edmonton gets a player that can fill in while Sekera is injured. Jets move a defenceman and a cap hit without giving up any prospects or picks.

15 Aug 2018 20:10:21
Kulikov is slightly overpriced but I'd rather him than a 6th. Right now.

15 Aug 2018 20:09:52
Your fellow peg fans aren’t going to like this. Because last week they said kulikov was better than Gardiner and Zaitsev amd I wouldn’t think about moving either of them for less than a prospect and a 2nd.

15 Aug 2018 20:59:56
Moving Kulikov would save the Jets $4.3 mil this season which would make a trade to the Oilers feasible, but they would want a 3rd or 4th round pick. The Jets would have Morrow and Poolman that could easily take Kulokov's place on the 3rd pairing.

15 Aug 2018 21:11:30
I'd rather just keep Kulikov for the depth. There are always injuries during the year and Kulikov can help keep Chiarot and Morrow from playing too many minutes. Losing the depth for a 6th round pick isn't worth it.

16 Aug 2018 18:38:28
I think that if kulikov could quite getting hurt he'd be a decent partner for buff or Myers. Bring some defence to one of them but that's a big if.

16 Aug 2018 22:25:37
Oilers can just sign someone for a lot less than Kulikovs money. Davidson, Sbisa, Emelin, a bunch others.
I bet they bring back Davidson on a PTO.
I wish they would do something bigger tho F.

17 Aug 2018 02:27:08
Davidson is still available? I’m not being rude when I say this but weren’t you guys really high on him?

17 Aug 2018 10:32:39
Yeah I was, he had to step up for injuries like 2 or 3 seasons ago and he played so solid.

17 Aug 2018 16:19:28
I thought he was pretty good ebs.

11 Aug 2018 06:51:34
Toronto trades: Brown, Gardiner

Winnipeg trades: Myers, Perrault

Smt along these lines what do you think?

11 Aug 2018 07:20:17
The Jets have absolutely no need for Brown and would probably rather keep Myers than trade for Gardiner. So, Winnipeg would decline.

11 Aug 2018 09:24:54
There is no way the Jets would make this trade as Perreault is a much better player than Brown, who would be behind Wheeler, Laine, and Tanev. The Jets would rather bring up younger, homegrown players like Appleton, Vesalainen and Lemieux. Gardner is a 28 year old defensive liability that makes the same mistakes an 18 year rookie makes and will be a UFR next season so why would the Jets want him? Let him stay with the Leafs and be their headache.

11 Aug 2018 15:22:31
Jake Gardiner out scored all of Winnepegs deffensman including the legend Wayne ( Trouba ) Gretzky. That’s all I’m going to say and was + 9 which was equal to Myers.

11 Aug 2018 16:25:31
He clearly said Gardiner is a defensive liability not on offensive one. IDK why you would bring points but alright

11 Aug 2018 17:13:29
Just pointing out Gardiner is much better then Myers.

11 Aug 2018 18:16:38
Still laughing at Perrault being much better than brown. Brown is younger and a better Pker and on a better contract. But whatever.

11 Aug 2018 18:43:24
Gardiner isn’t better than Myers.

11 Aug 2018 19:48:32
Here we go again with jets/ leafs comparisons. Islandjet a career 40 point guy is not a much better player than Brown. He’s 6 years younger with a couple good seasons behind him already and he’s good on the pk. Brown has also been 3/ 4 line only. I’m pretty sure Perrault even gets PP time but I could be wrong. I’m not saying Brown is a superstar but Perrault is not all that either. Myers is better than Gardiner defensively for sure but there’s not a person on this site that gives him credit for his offensive awareness. I’d like to see Gardiner play with a real solid d man that could cover for him once in a while. Had Myers not just come off one of his best seasons yet I’d say it’s a close deal but I think it would take more from Toronto.

11 Aug 2018 20:06:15
Well Defensively you can’t argue Gardiner is way better then Myers and offensively I’d say Gardiner is better so can you please find statistics to prove Myers is better then Gardiner in anyway not even just hockey like anything Gardiner is litterly better then him at every aspect of life.

11 Aug 2018 21:21:35
Vbbbvvbb. did you say Gardiner is better than Myers defensively? Myers has the defensive aspect over Gardiner, Gardiner is better offensively. Overall value is not far apart.

12 Aug 2018 01:26:46
Myers really isn’t known to be a strong defensive player off the rush he gets beat much more then Gardiner. His stalky 6.8 frame takes up space in his own zone tho.

12 Aug 2018 15:54:08
@vbbbvvbb then you haven't watched Myers' goal against the wild in game 2 of the playoffs. Legit just danced around the defender to score. Haven't seen Gardiner do that, let alone in the playoffs

12 Aug 2018 16:08:56
If the Jets did make this trade in the long run it would not address the long term problem it would cause. Of the next 4 Jets A defense prospects, Niku, Stanley and Samberg they all shoot left with only Poolman being a RHD. Getting Gardner may fit in now but the next 2 years they would be looking for another RHD. This trade makes no sense for the Jets.

12 Aug 2018 16:50:42
I actually seen that goal it was dirty.

10 Aug 2018 23:49:04
WPG: Trouba
DET: Larkin

Detroit gets a #1 RHD from Michigan that'll be their cornerstone piece in the rebuild. Jets get a top C who can play on the second line behind Scheifele and flourish. Also to note Larkin and Connor grew up together so they'll have some chemistry as well.

The Jets may need to add however I rate a top defenceman over a top center based on positional value. It's harder to find the top defenceman compared to a center which always seems to be a top 3 Pick if not multiple within the top 3.


11 Aug 2018 04:40:16
I like it but guarantee you people think Trouba can get more lol however I also think Detroit should keep Larkin they need him.

11 Aug 2018 05:27:59
No way from Detroit they just signed there home town boy future captain to a cap friendly 5 year deal.

11 Aug 2018 06:04:42
Detroit would have nothing left at center, so I can't see them doing it. The Jets need their top pairing RHD more than a 2C, so it doesn't work for Winnipeg.

11 Aug 2018 09:29:43
Detroit wouldn't trade Larkin as they have just locked him up for 5 years and he is their stud center. They would love to have Trouba but I don't see the Wings having any players that the Jets would want for their #1 right shot d-man.

11 Aug 2018 11:28:15
Face it guys, these WPG fans know best. Trouba is just too valuable. In addition to singlehandedly winning the Jets a cup this year he is also designing a climate controlling apparatus to make the winters in the peg less harsh. He might even have superpowers. He can beat Guitar Hero on expert and his pubes cure cancer.

11 Aug 2018 15:15:20
No Unsportsmanlike its just many Jet fans are realistic that the Jets will expect a proper return for a young RHD. Chevy wouldn't want scraps like many of the Leaf offers posted here or players that other teams would never trade like the Larkin proposal. When Chevy makes a deal it will be for pieces that will help the Jets in the future not just now.

11 Aug 2018 15:24:22
The funny thing is he isn’t even the Number 1 D he’s the 2 D behind big buff.

11 Aug 2018 16:13:31
vbbbv Your comment proves how deep the Jets are at d with Poolman, Niku, Stanley and Samberg in the wings. They really don't need the human turnstile Gardner. Some of the Leaf posters should try and peddle him to another team, or better yet keep him since he is so good then he can break your heart with his pathetic defensive play when you need him the most.

11 Aug 2018 17:15:55
Never once proposed the leafs should trade Gardiner I personally think they should keep him. Also this trades about Larkin not Gardiner. Larkin>>Trouba.

11 Aug 2018 20:05:33
Just curious islandjet. Did you only watch one game in the playoffs? Gardiner is not as bad as you make him out to be.

11 Aug 2018 20:47:15
Anyways, I think it’s pretty fair value wise. Joe I agree Detroit would have nothing left at center but if Winnipeg was offered Larkin, I think they’d be all over it. You can never have too many centres and I think he also plays the wing.

12 Aug 2018 00:08:45
Leafs17, I agree that value wise in a vacuum it is pretty good, but the Jets need to keep Trouba more than we need a better 2C. Trouba is our top pairing, shut down defenseman. If Larkin was going to be our number 1C, it would be worth it. But if we trade Trouba for a forward we need to go out and find another young, high end defenseman. It would make our offense, which is already really good, better, but would hurt our defense more. It's just not worth the trade off.

12 Aug 2018 00:43:57
Should the jets be trading Myers for a LD then? No need for 3 strong RH d and a weak left side.

12 Aug 2018 01:57:21
Yeah but memarcusjoe you won’t have Trouba in a year. Larkin would be an amazing return.

12 Aug 2018 07:25:23
Leafs17, we can't trade Myers until we know for sure what is happening with Trouba.

Ebsolutely, why won't the Jets have Trouba in a year? He's still RFA at the end of his contract. If they have to trade him next summer they'll still get a huge return.

12 Aug 2018 07:48:01
My bad I thought he was a UFA at seasons end. Still think Larkin would be a good and smart return.

12 Aug 2018 08:30:09
Ebsolutely, Larkin would be a good return. Just not what the Jets need at this point.

12 Aug 2018 16:00:07
This trade could make sense if Poolman steps up and becomes a shut down defender he has the potential to be. The Jets would be more willing to part with Trouba if this happens. This trade would be fair for both teams as it addresses a desperate need for the Wings and makes the Jets very strong at center. The Wings still should be hesitant to do it as young, talented centers that are signed long term to a fair contract are hard to come by, but Trouba is their home town kid.

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