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22 Feb 2019 17:34:26
Based on the return Ottawa got on the Duschene trade.

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Conditional 1st Round Pick 2020 (if Stone resigns), Petan, Stanley

22 Feb 2019 17:54:02
This is close but the Jets should take out Stanley and give the Sens a choice of Suess, Spacek or Lipon all solid B prospects.

22 Feb 2019 18:07:43
I would say they look more comfortable into Appleton then Petan. Tbh if Petan goes anywhere I see a team giving up a 4-5th round pick.

22 Feb 2019 18:10:06
A possible slight suggestion, remove the 2020 1st round pick, with us taking back B Ryan (50% retained)

22 Feb 2019 20:10:34
Duchene* for f sakes lol. Also Stone has more value than Duchene. So i'm sure he will potentially get bigger return.

22 Feb 2019 20:21:07
That would be a very comparable offer to what Duchene got. Well done. I agree with Islandjet though, we may be able to keep Stanley and give up a lesser piece.

Overall though, a pretty good offer.

22 Feb 2019 20:30:35
Honestly the guy has been in the league for like a decade why can’t people figure out how to spell the guy’s name. It’s pretty simple. Douchaysne. Figure it out guys seriously.

23 Feb 2019 00:09:34
Way too much from Winnipeg, I mean c’mon guys, the God himself Petan is in there, he could probably get Stone 1 for 1.

No but seriously, Petan is valueless, a team would give up at most a 4th for him, so if you want Stone is going to start with two firsts and a good prospect, not none of this B prospect crap and Petan, get real.

23 Feb 2019 00:28:54
Well not a spelling bee website. I was thinking duchene and stone are close in value, was thinking stone was worth more cause all around game, but centers seem more valuable so maybe evens out. Stone will get same If teams are willing to pay but sets the price for stone. I thought maybe opens the door for Columbus to trade panarin but from what I've read they're keeping him. Would be awesome to see him back in Chicago but slim chances they want players like Saad and anisimov and add like a Mitchell and a couple 1sts unless guaranteed to resign.

20 Feb 2019 20:11:44
Carolina - Faulk and Ferland

Winnipeg - Petan. Kulikov and a 3rd and 5th rounder in 2020

Jets need a quarterback for the PP. Kulikov and Faulk have similar contracts

20 Feb 2019 20:54:28
The Jets don't need either player. They're better off using Petan for Stone or Duchene, if they want to move him.

20 Feb 2019 21:12:32
I can't see this trade improving the Jets that much.

20 Feb 2019 21:13:35
It doesn't matter if jets need them or not, if you can get those two players for that pile of crap, the jets will pounce on it.

20 Feb 2019 21:36:11
Agree. It doesn't make the Jets better. No chance in hell the Jets consider it.

20 Feb 2019 23:11:03
I agree that if Jets made this trade they could easily flip those two players . for more than what their original package was Imo. Faulk isn’t needed but Ferland could.

20 Feb 2019 05:53:55
To winnipeg
Duchene
Stone-re signs taking home town discount.


To Ottawa
2019 1st rounder
2020 2nd rounder
2020 5th rounder
Comrie
Petan
Appleton.

20 Feb 2019 12:45:13
People have to stop with spare parts for proven talent. Just cause your team sees them as a rental doesn't lower thier value. other teams would crush this in hope of re- signing 1 if not both. If getting both, have to be 2 1sts at least.

20 Feb 2019 14:28:47
Tbh most people think they are smarter then actual GMs or over value some players ( everyone does it no matter how non bias they think they are) . And seeing these Stone trades really show it, personally I think Stone is a 1st line winger on any team in the league. Even as a rental ( with extra time to try to sign) he is worth at least a 1st rounders + at least a B+ to A level prospect and a minor roster player or AHL player. He is an amazing player.

20 Feb 2019 15:09:03
this is a pathetic offer for two star rentals lol and you think one will re-sign oh god.

20 Feb 2019 15:56:27
Where ever UFA's Stone and Duchene end up it would be interesting to see if they get a kings ransom like many posters here think they will get. Most likely they bring back draft choices, which the Sens really want and a prospect or two but not the crazy proposals that people believe the Jetswill part with. I'd agree that Comrie and draft choices will be part of the package but I would be surprised if it included more than a good B prospect.

20 Feb 2019 16:39:45
THEN YOU ARE NOT GETTING STONE OR DUCHENE you jets fans have got to be the most clueless iv ever seen regarding an offer for a STAR player its beyond bad how you legitimately think youll get a star player for crumbs.

20 Feb 2019 16:41:16
Here ya go take the two best players on our team and well gladly take two 3rd round picks and 3 guys who won't be of any impact, nice.

20 Feb 2019 17:16:09
Jets will not get Duchene or Stone unless a 1st or top prospect is included. At minimum.

20 Feb 2019 17:38:17
Islandjet the problem I’m seeing is that people think Petan is still a good B prospect, when in reality he’s not. He’s a fringe NHLer rn and probably will stay that way. He’s like Hudon in MTL can barely make the lineup and when In he’s on the 4th line. I’ll be honest I haven’t spent much time looking at the jets prospects but I do know Ottawa has a good goalie in there prospect pool so I doubt they would really want Comrie over another good prospect. And we all know there 1st is a later one but that’s what to be expected with these rental trades. I do see jets pushing for Stone and I do see them possibly paying a kings ransom for him.

20 Feb 2019 17:39:44
And you can even agree this is a bad proposal for Stone and Duchene with Stone resigning.

20 Feb 2019 18:19:33
Can’t see this one happening. At least one of Duchene or Stone would be playing third line. Winnipeg just doesn’t need those guys. They won’t be willing to pay the asking price because they would be third line players on Jets.

20 Feb 2019 18:54:36
People really over value rental player's returns based on emotion, not reality. I know Ottawa fans want to believe that they will be able to get all the pieces they need to complete their rebuild with the returns for these two players.

Unfortunately for them, they have a poor GM, that let the players get to a point where their value is the lowest.

In all likelihood the return for each one will be the historically well established maximum return of a 1st, B/ C prospect and an NHL ready player with moderate upside or a long shot player with higher upside. Then another pick conditional based on re-signing.

So, from the Jets it would be something like this: 1st, Stanley, Petan plus a conditional pick for re-signing.

20 Feb 2019 19:25:47
Its funny because 98% of the people who rip on you jets fans for your horrendous low ball offers for Stone or Duchene aren't even sens fans and we are just trying to get your brain to understand that you aren't getting a star player for bits and pieces of nothing.

20 Feb 2019 19:42:44
I find it funny how all these people who try to rip on the offers, only base their responses on emotion not reality. Maybe some of you actually believe giving away a top prospect for 2 months of a player is a good move? I don't know, but it is not based on reality.

It doesn't matter that you believe these players are gods. Rental players almost NEVER return top prospects and Stone and Duchene will be no different, especially in a buyer's market.

Go ahead and make a list of all the top prospects that have been given up for a rental. I don't think you'll get much past one.

The return is well established historically and is not near what the dreamers on this site believe.

20 Feb 2019 20:10:39
Martin erat got forsberg when he was a prospect.

20 Feb 2019 20:57:28
There you go, one example of a rental pulling a top prospect and it was an abject failure.

I think we've proven why these sky high asks are unrealistic.

20 Feb 2019 21:18:25
The fact you wouldn't risk trading Vesalainen (your top prospect), a prospect whose future is completely up in the air and potentially won't be an impact player for another 2-3 years on the jets, for a bonafide winger that increases the chances immensely to winning the stanley cup just blows my mind. And the fact you aren't even giving away any roster players either. man. The only unrealistic thing here is your own expectations for a deal.

20 Feb 2019 21:22:13
But look at this proposal no way in hell would this get both guys maybe 1 of them but not both.

20 Feb 2019 21:50:14
Notdelusional, now I see your problem. You don't have any idea who the Jets prospects are. Vesalainen well likely be playing with the Jets next year, not 2 our 3 years down the road, so you have no idea of the quality of the prospects you're talking about.

If you would be fine with your team throwing away top prospects for two months of a player that marginally (by 1 or 2%) improves your teams chances, by all means push for that position when the time comes. Smart fans and GM's though won't do it, which is why it doesn't happen.

I asked you to provide an example or two of where a top prospect was given up for a rental. I got one example that was a horrific disaster.

The fact you can't find any proves my point. Jets fans are basing their offer on reality and historically similar trades for rental players. You're expectations are entirely unrealistic and not backed by any historical precedent or examples. Just a poor understanding of the value of rental players compared to players with term.

20 Feb 2019 22:43:37
If you read what iv said before, i mention top prospect. I didn't say B or C prospects. All i'm saying is the jets will not get one of duchene or stone if a TOP prospect or 1st is not included. Also, you speak about historic and stuff when was the last time a player of value similar to Stone has been on the market prior to trade deadline, off the top of my head nobody. Stone is 26, in his prime and is a first line winger, you telling me he won't fetch a top prospect or 1st is criminal.

And i also said an impact player, not just being on the roster. But actually being a top 6 player putting up points and being productive. If you think Stone will only imporve the jets by 1-2% then you must think extremely highly of Ves. And to continue not once have i ever said Stone or whoever will get a ridiculous overpay, iv stated many times that he won't be traded unless a top prospect or a 1st is coming back in return so before going he ho on me take in mind what iv said please i don't just go on rants for no reason. i'm simply tellin you and islandjet you aren't getting a top player for bits, and history will back that up as well.

20 Feb 2019 23:18:21
So I’ll put my sense into this, notdelusional is trying to say the same thing as me, that the Jets won’t get a top player unless they are willing to part with a top prospect or 1st. And Marcus you just don’t want jets to sacrifice the farm in order for a better chance at the cup.

I agree that sending a top prospect for a rental doesn’t make much sense but if that’s the case and Jets think they can win the cup I say they do it. But in general all these posts are annoying because the only way a jets fan agrees is if it is an underwhelming offer but that won’t be the reality at all, they simply won’t get a top player and will have to settle for a lesser player then.

And besides I’m pretty positive Ottawa has had talks with Stone about an extension and only Duchene so far has been confirmed to be traded at the deadline or before. So no more Stone to jets because I don’t think it will happen. And last thing, Stone and Duchene have different values and definitely would not be traded together in one package there’s no way the other team could send back what would be necessary to complete that. So let’s stop butting heads and talk about other trade options 😂.

20 Feb 2019 23:46:23
Remember the Jets are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL with 4 or 5 A prospects NHL ready next year, if Maurice doesn't want to keep seasoning them another year, so they aren't in a desperate win now or go down hill mode. Winnipeg will not give away top prospects for a rental that in 3 years may not be as good as what posters want the Jets to trade now. Also with the Seattle draft coming soon it will be good to have younger players that will be protected by the rules of the draft.

20 Feb 2019 03:46:02
Since all the Ottawa fans think that what I've proposed so far isn't enough here we go....

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Vesalainen, Conditional 3rd Round Pick 2020 (turns into a 1st if Stone resigns)

Jets then sign Stone to an 8 year $7.5M contract. At the draft they trade Ehlers for a top 5 Pick to clear salary.

20 Feb 2019 04:30:24
He’s not getting a top 5 pick when the teams who draft those players will need those ELCs.

20 Feb 2019 15:50:32
How is he not? He’s 23, posted back to back 60+ point seasons and is under a great contract for another 6 years. If the Jets trade him for a Top 5 Pick it’s a gamble and they’re not guaranteed an impact player.

20 Feb 2019 16:44:19
Mcjesus clearly stated why lol if you read it. bottom feeder teams in the mix for a lottery pick will need those top 5 draft picks to pan out and be impactful during their ELCs, these teams don't need that cap right now.

20 Feb 2019 17:09:32
There are so many trade proposals that have the Jets giving way too much for a rental that just will not happen. Chevy is a very smart GM and is most likely looking for another very good piece or two elsewhere. If Ottawa want an unrealistic return for Stone or Duchene they can go fleece another team.

20 Feb 2019 17:16:49
^ yes.

20 Feb 2019 17:47:44
Does a team like Arizona or Edmonton want to go on the path of draft and develop? Probably not, they’ve both been doing that for how many years now. It’s time for them to move some picks for proven players.

20 Feb 2019 18:14:30
My yes was directed to notdelusional, but Jaxon you used a good example in Oilers, bcuz yes they would definitely take a proven player instead of that top 5 pick but they do not have the cap space for it, hence why I said those lottery teams need those players on their ELCs. And Arizona is no where near contending so they absolutely will not trade away their pick. They’ll stay the course and draft a player and I can’t recall any trade in the past 5-10 years that somebody traded away a top 5 pick at the draft for a player (If it’s happened then I just am not aware of it) .

20 Feb 2019 18:15:16
Edmonton is a really good example jax but like what was said before oilers will need that ELC as they don't got the cap space for Ehlers.

20 Feb 2019 18:17:02
its alright islandjet when your cryin because the jets don't get any player of significance at the deadline because they won't part with atleast a 1st or top prospect we will all be here for you. nawt.

20 Feb 2019 18:22:03
Even when trading for proven players, Edmonton and Arizona are just so bad that even the proven players end up going downhill. Lucic is perfect example of that.

20 Feb 2019 18:57:13
Zamboni that's a complete bonehead example, a perfect dumb example.

20 Feb 2019 18:58:23
No from Winnipeg. Rental players do not return top prospects. This is well established historically. Ottawa has no chance at Vesalainen for a rental.

20 Feb 2019 20:24:58
I think I would be more concerned if the Jets over-payed for any rental rather than not making a trade that cost them players for the future. Chevy is a smart GM and he will not sell the farm to get a rental.

20 Feb 2019 22:07:11
Memarcusjoe they got Gustafson for basically nothing plus Vegas ate half Brassard contract in same 3 way trade.

Also if rentals don't return top prospects you might want to tell the rest of the league that. Pittsburgh notorious for shopping top prospects for a rental shot at cup, Washington also did it with erat or did you forget the Forsberg part of that deal? Or more recently Miller and McDonagh both in their contract year getting the rangers a 1st, Howden and then some.

To say rentals don't get top prospects is laughable at best as it literally happens every year with teams who want to take a run at the cup, heck you could argue the EK to SJS trade was a season rental not that I want to use that as an example but I could.

22 Feb 2019 09:36:44
Stone is not signing for 7.5m per.

19 Feb 2019 00:10:19
OTT: Stone
WPG: Comrie, Petan, Spacek, 1st Round Pick 2019

19 Feb 2019 04:19:11
Now that's a proper offer for a rental. Nothing off the roster, just a pick and prospects. 4 assets is a bit much, but I could live with it.

19 Feb 2019 19:17:08
Lol ya a proper trade for sens to decline.

19 Feb 2019 19:57:48
Wish I could get a top player in the league who is only 26 for 3 guys who won’t ever make the team and an extremely late 1st round pick.

19 Feb 2019 22:22:27
Stone is a UFA rental that the Jets wouldn't be able to resign so he isn't worth as much to the Jets as the posters believe. Why give up too much for a player that may not help the Jets win the cup. Look at what Vegas traded for Tatar last season, and he barely played.

19 Feb 2019 22:31:54
Well that is the traditional price for rentals. This is a bit generous, the price is normally a first and a B prospect, plus maybe a conditional pick or another B/ C prospect.

20 Feb 2019 01:12:42
Stone is a lot better than the traditional rental type player too though, so may be able to bring a larger return.

20 Feb 2019 03:55:00
Take out Spacek and I’m cool with it

18 Feb 2019 16:20:11
Stone to jets for 2 7 th round picks because it's clear there fans don't want to gone up top prospects or picks so this will half to do.

18 Feb 2019 19:22:33
A little bit of an overreaction there. The Jets fans here as well as the rumours we know about have all been standard TDL rental offers. Rentals don't get top prospects in return and the Jets aren't willing to overpay. That's all.

18 Feb 2019 23:24:13
Rentals do get top prospects or a 1st round so I don’t understand why you keep saying that!

19 Feb 2019 00:30:18
My bad didn't realize the jets used there's fans as team gm.

19 Feb 2019 01:10:59
Will they have the cap space for Laine, Connor, Trouba and Myers new deals at the end of the season? Maybe they decide to go after one of the big names at the deadline. If they do it’s going to cost a fairly big price I’d imagine. I’m with the jets fans in the fact I’d hate to give up promising prospects for rentals but if they feel this is there year why wouldn’t they go for it.

19 Feb 2019 04:21:08
I think the Jets will go for it, but they won't be silly and overpay or use one of their top prospects.

19 Feb 2019 17:12:27
Hey joe, then they won't go for it. remember last year when Ryan Hartman got a first? Stone would easily cost more even as a rental. These 1sts contentenders give up may as well be an early 2nd so got to give a top prospect too, as much as it sucks, it realit.

19 Feb 2019 19:21:41
marcus there is 0% chance jets get a top rental if they don’t use a top prospect or 1st round pick lol. Get a grip already please.

20 Feb 2019 01:15:26
Jets gave up a 1st last year to get Stastny. No reason to think they wouldn’t be willing to do the same again this year.

18 Feb 2019 13:52:45
Ottawa: Niku,Comrie,1st 2019

Winnipeg: Duchene

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Ottawa: 1st 2020

Toronto: Ceci

18 Feb 2019 15:46:26
A 1st for Ceci yikes.

18 Feb 2019 15:54:51
I'd rather do Stanley, Petan and a 1st. I don't think the Jets want to move Niku.

18 Feb 2019 16:07:17
I can't see the Jets trading Nuku, Ves, Samberg and Stanley for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 16:22:49
Toronto definitely says no. Maybe if the 1st was going the other way.

18 Feb 2019 17:51:07
Unfortunately, you have to be prepared to give to get. I can see the Jets prepared to trade their 1st rounder and a combination of Comrie, Petan, Niku, Appleton or Roslovic. Unfortunately, both Petan and Comrie won't get a chance here.

Chevy is a smart GM and won't break the bank for a short-term solution. there's a small window at an opportunity to compete for Lord Stanley. If this is it for the Jets, they will plug holes that they feel they need.

20 Feb 2019 17:25:20
Toronto 1st is more like a 2nd so yes to that, Duchene deal though you still need to add even for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 03:32:51
ottawa: Duchene
nashville: Fabbro, 1st

Ottawa: Stone
Winnipeg: Niku, Petan, Comrie, 1st

Ottawa: Dzingle
Boston: 1st

Ottawa: Anderson
LA: 3rd.

18 Feb 2019 04:14:41
Nashville has to commit and go all in one year and why not this year, yes from Nashville.
Extremely easy no from sens.
No from Boston.
Don’t see a reason why LA does that. like at all.

18 Feb 2019 04:19:04
Big no from Nashville.

Big no from Ottawa.

Close, but Ott will want more, Boston’s first won’t be that good.

And no from LA, they don’t need Anderson, they need picks not to give them up for ancient goalies.

18 Feb 2019 14:10:11
I didn't think the Jets will be giving up Niku. If the Sens want a defenseman, they may get Stanley.

18 Feb 2019 16:08:55
Jets will not trade Niku for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 16:26:13
Rumour is Nashville is all in and Fabbro is one of the pieces they are dangling for a top rental, so I could see it happening.

17 Feb 2019 17:29:59
Ok so Winnipeg and Calgary are supposedly in a bidding war over Duchene and or stone so.

Cal : m. tkechuck, Bennet, Cal 1st in 2020

Ott : Duchene, dzingle, Ceci

Ceci and Bennett cancel each others value, Ottawa gets the other tkechuck plus loads up for next year's draft after throwing this year's away while Calgary get the best player and fastest player in the deal.

17 Feb 2019 17:38:48
There is zero percent chance Calgary does this one sided Ottawa biased trade.

17 Feb 2019 19:19:42
That dosent get Tkachuk alone.

17 Feb 2019 19:30:54
Calgary wouldn’t even do this if Duchene and Dzingel had term left on their contracts. I’d rather Tkachuck and Bennett on my team.

17 Feb 2019 19:40:13
I would rather not have Bennett if I have the chance to get Duchene lol.

17 Feb 2019 19:49:31
Tkachuck is actually the best player in the trade. Duchene puts up points and that's about it. Tkachuk does so much more and has nearly as many points too, plus way younger and cheaper this season.

17 Feb 2019 20:51:59
Did you miss the part about Tkachuck McJ? You don’t give him up for a few months of Duchene.

17 Feb 2019 21:00:58
If Tkachuk was in Edmonton I wouldn’t trade him possibly ever. He does it all. And only getting better and better.

18 Feb 2019 06:04:58
Duchene is better than tkechuck both offencively and defensively sorry to burst your biased bubbles, tkechuck fights better that's it, these comments are pathetic and only further prove everything I've always said.

Let me put it this way folks, both stone and Duchene are stars who are both top 6 player on every and any team in the league and even top 3 on most. Peanuts and hot garbage don't get you their jock straps, you want a player like either of them even as a rental, you are going to be paying to get them whether you like it or not!

So get out of your fantasy world's where freebies are handed out on silver platters and come back to reality before you lose more than just your minds!

18 Feb 2019 14:21:09
You’ve been wrong about everything you’ve ever posted. You come here to argue and your team is a mess. Good luck getting Tkachuck.

18 Feb 2019 09:15:39
The only thing I agree with what you said Ramboo is Ceci= Bennett and even that is debatable.

18 Feb 2019 09:16:03
@Shootsmcgee ok then Tkachuk is more valuable then Kucherov because all kucherov does is put up points? Duchene plays on the worst team in the league and Tkachuk on one of the best. Tkachuk would not have this many points in ottawa and Duchene would have way more in Calgary.

20 Feb 2019 02:39:09
If you’re going to call yourself ‘nobias. ’ it’s be beneficidl for you to watch more Flsmes games. You’re terribly wrong. Tkachuk is younger and will be RFA as opposed to UFATHAT Dusch will be. Cecil sucks and Dzingel maybe just a flash in the pan. Tkachuk is a future captain and I’ve never heard him say stupid things in an UBER vehicle about his organization.
You should get comfortable with the reality that your not getting any solid NHL player for any of your UFAs to be. Maybe 4th liners and B prospects and possibly a 1st.

20 Feb 2019 17:48:56
I haven't been wrong about anything Leafs goof. Sens just have a bone head gm. I said Hoffman should have fetched us at least a 1st and that is more than true no matter what his gf said, want proof it's called Derrick Brassard deal.

Hoffman is a much better talent on a cap friendly contract than Brassard who got a mid to late 1st (at time of trade), a top prospect goalie, and a top 4 Dman who was flipped for a 2nd, let alone Ek who's value far exceeds Hoffman's as well.

Just because Dorion is incompetent don't make me wrong. He had plenty of time to wait for the right trade for both guys but instead pulled an early trigger that costed the team what they could have got.

Personal issues should never be that much of a factor towards trade value at any time unless your gm is useless like Dorion.

21 Feb 2019 03:55:52
Sc4cgy bennet sucks too what's your point? They cancel each other. And not a chance they pass over captain from Gaudreau to tkechuck, get real dude.

I'd give you and arguement on the Duchene vs tkechuck thing too but mtl4life actually made my argument for me to which I don't really need to add more other than RFA or Ufa? It don't matter as both are getting pay days, the only advantage a RFA has to a team is they maintain his services an extra year to try get a trade if they don't sign but lose him in the end anyway assuming no offer sheets are made.

And dzingle is hardly a flash in the pan when he has been a top 4 or 5 forward on Ottawa for last 4 seasons putting up decent numbers in all of them

Oh and sc4cgy, 4th liners b prospect and 4th line? Get real dude! Brassard was basically a rental I'll be it 1 extra year in last year's deal and he got a mid to late 1st, a top 4 Dman (flipped for a 2nd), and a projected future starting tendy, Duchene will or should easily get more that that!
Can't say he will for sure because Dorion is known to take less than dismal returns for big name player which is rediculous but Duchene absolutely is worth a lot more than Brassard and stone more than that even.

22 Feb 2019 10:51:11
Calgary most definitely will pass on gudreau on captain for Mathew Tkachuk, hence why TK wears an A and Johnny nothing, Johnny is a great player but he's not a leader.

16 Feb 2019 23:31:19
Ottawa trades: Mark stone (verbal agreement to resign)

Jets trade: Nicolaj Ehlers, Kristian vesalainen.

17 Feb 2019 00:04:34
These “verbal agreement to resign” deals ain’t going to happen. Any extension talks between player and team are illegal without permission from his current team. Why would Ottawa, or any other team allow that? They won’t. Letting another team mow your lawn while you are still playing on the grass isn’t going to happen. If these guys think they can get a better offer, they have to wait until free agency. They aren’t going to get permission to find a better offer while still playing for their current team. Why would any team allow another team to try and poach their best players?

17 Feb 2019 00:19:48
Might be a bit much from Wpg. It depends how good Stone’s contract is. Ehlers is signed for a really good deal but I’d say Stone is better. So it would be worth it if Stone signed for a max of like 7 mil a year I’d say.

17 Feb 2019 00:44:18
Depending on what he agreed to sign for if it's say tavares money I think jets stick with what they have.

17 Feb 2019 00:46:48
Nope. Not a chance. The offer I believe is Stanley, our 1st and Petan. This offer is way to much for Stone even if he wants to re-sign.

17 Feb 2019 01:37:34
Ottawa wishes.

17 Feb 2019 17:43:25
Winnipeg will not trade Ehlers and Ves for Stone as he would want much more than the Jets would want to pay.

18 Feb 2019 06:05:24
Not a chance.

16 Feb 2019 21:25:23
Three-Way Trade Idea:

Columbus Blue Jackets Trade: Artemi Panarin [6.00 Million x 1 Year] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick.
Ottawa Senators Trade: Mark Stone [7.350 Million x 1 Year] + Ryan Dzingel [2.10 Million x 1 Year]
Nashville Predators Trade: Dante Fabbro [Unsigned] + Craig Smith [4.25 Million x 2 Years] + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

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Columbus Blue Jackets Acquire: Mark Stone
Ottawa Senators Acquire: Dante Fabbro Craig Smith + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick
Nashville Predators Acquire: Artemi Panarin + Ryan Dzingel

- Ottawa picks up a ton of valuable young pieces, and essentially swaps Dzingel for Smith since Smith has the extra year and could be in play next year.
- Nashville picks up a star caliber player for their top six and a middle six to help them against the Flames, Jets and Sharks: giving them an elite forward core and a chance at the cup this year.
- Columbus essentially swaps Stone for Panarin, and gives up the 2nd to do so since imo, Stone is better than Panarin. However, it is entirely possible that Stone resigns while Panarin does not.

16 Feb 2019 23:05:48
Stone is not better than Panarin in any universe.

17 Feb 2019 00:06:19
Columbus won’t take a chance swapping free agents. If they think they can sign Stone they will wait to do so in the summer. In the meantime, they collect what they can for Panarin. Way too risky to chance ending up with only a 2nd for Panarin.

17 Feb 2019 02:15:08
I'll take stone over bread man every time easily
There is more to the game then points.

17 Feb 2019 13:26:24
Panarin and a 2nd for stone? Laughabl, how many times stone set records for his team? People said panarin was a product of playing with kane and his first year in Columbus set team record for assists and points. And he's not a liability defensively, just doesn't hit, nothing else wrong with his game. Stone is a good player but not the same level.

18 Feb 2019 06:06:37
This is a joke right?

21 Feb 2019 04:04:52
Shootsmcgee your joking right in what universe is stone ever a defencive liability? LMFAO he's literally one of the top 4 to 5 defensive forwards in today's game, something panarin simply is not! Plus his numbers continue to improve every year on a weak team and currently are right there with panarin this year. You can claim it's cause he played with Duchene that his numbers went up but you'd be wrong again as they were on separate lines all season.

16 Feb 2019 17:36:51
WPG: Vesalainen, 1st Round Pick 2019, Harkins
OTT: Stone

Jets lineup:
Connor - Schiefele - Wheeler
Laine - Little - Stone
Perrault - Lowry - Tanev
Ehlers - Copp - Roslovic

16 Feb 2019 18:23:41
I hope the Jets don't trade any combination of Ves, Stanley, Niku, Roslovic and Samberg to get any UFA rental.

16 Feb 2019 19:41:34
Jets don’t need wingers. I know Ehlers isn’t having the strongest year, but is 4th line really the best spot for him?

16 Feb 2019 19:47:09
Wow! You are really coming up with some crazy overpays by the Jets lately.

I know Sens fans are fantasizing about getting that kind of return, but it won't happen.

16 Feb 2019 21:32:46
If a top propsect/ 1st round isn't involved you are not getting a top player as a rental. I legit do not understand why you jets fans can't wrap your finger around this. you aren't getting mark stone for a garbage package.

16 Feb 2019 23:24:20
It's probably because rentals never return a first round pick AND the teams top prospect, this will be no different. Ottawa may get the first, but not our top prospect as well. It's not hard to understand. Stanley, our 1st and Petan, is a pretty good offer. If not, Ottawa can try and get someone else to overpay or let him walk for nothing.

16 Feb 2019 23:27:29
notdelusional Teams that give up too much for a UFA rental will soon be sellers at the trade deadline. Stone is a good player but not worth what some of these trade proposals would have the Jets give up for him.

17 Feb 2019 02:16:48
I can tell you that roslovic is on the table in sens talk I'm not saying he will be part of it Burbank I do know he is in the conversation.

17 Feb 2019 05:12:28
I'm sure Ottawa is asking for Roslovic. There just isn't much of a chance that they will get him.

17 Feb 2019 16:13:24
If you aren’t willing to let go of a first round pick or top prospect then you aren’t getting a top rental in return.

16 Feb 2019 07:12:24
Winnipeg: Niku, Roslovic, Comrie, 1st (or 2nd)
Ottawa: Stone.

16 Feb 2019 14:59:03
Everyone keeps touting Niku as AHL defenseman of the year. Just a reminder. So was Chris Wideman. So it would definitely need to be a 1st imo.

16 Feb 2019 15:32:23
yeah, i was thinking of the 1st but thought a lot of people would say unbelievable, i saw on tsn that ottawa was scouting those players and thought they'd need a pick on top of those players.

16 Feb 2019 16:02:41
Way too much for a UFA in Stone.

16 Feb 2019 17:23:44
No rental returns two top prospects and a first. No chance the Jets give this up for Stone, it's a buyer's market.

16 Feb 2019 17:33:49
Roslovic is very good and Stone is UFA so a 2d and 3 good young players is actually fair imo.

16 Feb 2019 21:21:12
Way too much for Stone. Winnipeg is so strong wingers anyway. We can pursue other options for that package. Guys with more term instead of rentals.

15 Feb 2019 23:16:22
EDM: Puljujärvi
WPG: Petan, 2nd Round Pick 2019

Oilers get a speedy LW that has experience playing with McDavid at the World Juniors.

Jets can send Puljujärvi down the the AHL this year and then reunite him with Laine next year.

16 Feb 2019 06:08:51
This is starting to get tedious. Petan is a throwaway play that has 0 value and a 2nd alone doesn’t get you Pulj. Just stop with this crap already.

16 Feb 2019 16:15:34
The Jets would definitely have to add but on the Oilers Petan would be a top 6 player as he just hasn't been able to crack a deep Jets roster. Add one of Perreault, Copp, or Tanev and a 3rd might be a fairer return for Pully.

16 Feb 2019 17:41:49
Petan is a top 6 forward haha man.

16 Feb 2019 17:55:03
I would think Edmonton would want more, but Petan would be a good player for them. The Oilers need some young players that have been developed correctly, but just don't have a spot on their current team, so that the Oilers can't screw them up.

16 Feb 2019 21:29:59
Puljarvi isn’t exactly a top 6 player either. Saying Petan has zero value but Puljarvi is worth more than a 2nd+ is a little hypocritical. Puljarvi has 7 points more than Petan while playing 33 more games this year. So who has the better ppg?

15 Feb 2019 21:40:27
WPG: Ehlers, Petan
OTT: Stone

Jets then sign Stone to an 8 year $8M contract. They get a better player at a little higher cap rate and will be much better defensively. Also noted, Stone is from Winnipeg.

Sens get a 23 year old top 6 Forward on a great contract for another 6 years. Plus add another NHL ready player.

Jets lineup:
Connor - Schiefele - Wheeler
Laine - Little - Stone

15 Feb 2019 22:00:02
No from Ott. Petan is a throwaway player and not enough to close the gap between Ehlers and Stone.

15 Feb 2019 23:09:40
If Ottawa can get back Ehlers in a trade for Stone i think that would be a significant piece Ottawa can be happy with, but like vert said Petan will not make up the rest of the difference. Jets need to add something more or a more better piece than Petan. With that said tho, i cannot imagine Winnipeg wants to move Ehlers, because if they do Stone better be guarenteed to re-sign in Winnipeg.

15 Feb 2019 23:49:42
Easy no from Winnipeg. Winnipeg is going to be strapped for cash after this season, and Ehlers is a steal at $6M and locked in long term. By the end of that contract he will be severely underpaid for the output he’s capable of.

15 Feb 2019 23:52:27
No chance from Winnipeg. Rental players have never, ever returned an Ehlers calibre player. Stone will be no different. It will likely be the Jets 1st, Petan and Stanley of the Jets go after stone.

16 Feb 2019 03:07:25
Petan is a throw away at this point but if he got more ice time in Ottawa, maybe he grows to the player he was supposed to be. Dylan strome has 31 points in 34 games for Chicago when he had 16 points in 48 games with Yotes, playing with his old buddy from junior but quite a turn around playing in a new place. Sometimes need a change and Winnipeg just has to much talent to get the ice time.

16 Feb 2019 03:07:58
But still no at this point.

16 Feb 2019 03:25:57
I can't see the Jets trading Ehlers, a very good young player who is signed long term to a very reasonable contract.

14 Feb 2019 22:36:57
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Samberg, Petan, Kulikov (cap dump)
OTT: Stone, Harpur

Sens get a 1st plus a highly rated prospect in Samberg and Petan who could contribute with playing time.

Jets get Stone plus since they give up a better prospect in Samberg can dump Kulikovs salary. Also get a depth LHD for the playoffs.

15 Feb 2019 03:20:45
Take out Harpur, Kulikov and Samberg and add a prospect not named Niku, Samberg or Vesalainen.

Why would the Jets want to downgrade on D when the are trying to contend?

15 Feb 2019 16:35:22
I hope the Jets don't trade too many assets for any rental as teams that do that usually become sellers a couple of years later. Niku, Samberg, Stanley and Vesalainen will be important and affordable members of the Jets in the next couple of seasons while there is no guarantee that any rental will help the Jets win the cup.

14 Feb 2019 21:10:47
OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Appleton, Petan

14 Feb 2019 21:22:57
That would probably work for the Jets. We'll have to see if Ottawa thinks it's enough.

14 Feb 2019 21:47:04
Too much for a rental.

14 Feb 2019 22:29:48
Don’t think sens would take that. Late 1st, Petan, a guy that peg fans seem to trade fast enough, also he’s small and what 23 years old and another 21/ 22 year old potential middle 6 winger. I would think that sens would/ should be able to fetch a 1st, roster player and a very good prospect not a late 1st and 2 decent to so so prospects. And island jet still thinks it too much yet again showing off his homer colours.

14 Feb 2019 22:39:51
Islandjet you realize if winnipeg goes for a top player even as a rental its going to not come at a cheap price, you're not giving away any roster pieces and a super late 1st pick like nothing that's posted is good enough for you unless its a severe underpayment from jets lol.

15 Feb 2019 01:04:04
Take out Appleton and is probably a lot closer to reality.

15 Feb 2019 02:43:25
Winnipeg’s first is going to be very low so it doesn’t have much more value than a second. Petan is next to worthless, I don’t know why so many people on here seem to think he’s some sort of God prospect, he’s not. And I don’t know a lot about Appleton but I do know that he, a late first and a throwaway player doesn’t get you Stone even as a rental.

15 Feb 2019 03:56:09
Very good statement Vertius yup.

15 Feb 2019 15:28:45
Well said vertius.

14 Feb 2019 17:01:34
Wpg - Roslovic, Poolman, Comrie and Kulikov

Ott - Stone and Ceci

Jets go all in! They can resign Stone and will unfortunatelty lose both Perrault and Myers in the offseason. They can make it work

14 Feb 2019 17:32:09
Ottawa’s says no :)

14 Feb 2019 18:31:43
If Winnipeg would be willing to take on B Ryan and his contract, it may entice Ottawa even more

14 Feb 2019 19:21:57
A big no from the Jets as they give up too much for a rental and Ceci. Rentals don't usually get as much as people think.

14 Feb 2019 21:25:28
The Jets wouldn't want Ceci at all and they won't be giving up Roslovic and Kulikov for a rental.

15 Feb 2019 01:20:47
Isn’t Roslovic supposed to be a top line player one day? Or at least a top six? Buyer’s remorse if they don’t win the cup for sure.

14 Feb 2019 16:08:25
WPG: 2nd Round Pick 2019, 3rd Round Pick 2020, Petan, Comrie (Kulikov)
FLA: Hoffman

Jets get a top 6 Forward for this year and next at a reasonable rate. They also get rid of Kulikov who has another year left on his contract. Basically they get more value for the money spent.

Panthers save over $850K worth of cap space, get a couple picks, a young player that needs to play and a young goalie for the future. All this can create the opportunity for them to target Panarin and Bobrovsky in the offseason.

14 Feb 2019 16:36:52
lmfao no from florida are you kidding me man. trade hoffman to save 850k hahah come on this is atrocious.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:54
Too much from the Jets!

14 Feb 2019 17:02:49
The Cats would be better off moving lower end pieces to make room.

14 Feb 2019 17:32:51
Oh yikes no from Florida not worth it at all for them imo.

14 Feb 2019 19:19:32
If florida is 850k short of signing panarin and bob, think they can get away with a smaller move and keep Hoffman to play with panarin.

14 Feb 2019 19:23:09
This trade hurts both teams.

15 Feb 2019 01:22:48
Can jets afford Hoffman? They are facing major cash crunch next year already and may need to lose salary. Taking on Hoffman would be a big financial commitment.

14 Feb 2019 15:57:23
WPG: Vesalainen, 2nd Round Pick 2019, Petan
OTT: Stone

14 Feb 2019 16:59:01
Is only give up Ves as a last resort a we need his ELC. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

14 Feb 2019 18:15:00
Possibly replace the 2nd round pick with B Ryan to take that contract off Ottawas hand.

14 Feb 2019 19:24:03
No from the Jets as Ves is a player that Chevy won't trade.

15 Feb 2019 01:24:43
It’s probably fair value. Jets have a lot of talent and could probably afford to trade Ves. I could almost see this trade happening, though I think Ottawa will insist on a 1st.

 
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