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12 Oct 2018 05:55:14
Leafs trade Nylander, Kadri

Washington trades Niskanen, Eller, Vrana, Burakovsky

Marleau/ Matthews/ Kapanen
Vrana/ Tavares/ Marner
Burakovsky/ Eller/ Hyman
Johnsson/ Lindholm/ Brown
*Ennis, Jooris

Rielly/ Niskanen
Gardiner/ Zaitsev
Dermott/ Hainsey
*Ozhiganov
(Sandin/ Liljegren)
(Rasanen)

Why Washington makes this trade:

Nylander and Kadri add to an already potent Washington offense. I mean, do I really got to say more?

Why Leafs make this trade:

First off, because we acquire Niskanen. A true 1RHD, he still has three years left on his contract at just under $6M, and is an excellent choice to hold that top line until Liljegren is ready.

The rest of the guys really strengthen up that LW, which I feel is weak compared to RW, and give us a lot better depth. We improve overall as a team.

12 Oct 2018 10:51:44
Is Niskanen a true 1 RHD? I wouldn't think so.

12 Oct 2018 11:39:06
Niskanens good, but not some i'd trade Nylander for. i'd be looking at a Pesce, a Manson, possibly Ekholm, whether LD/ RD, and if we had to add to Nylander, so be it. Then to upgrade our wing, trade Gardiner, not Naz for that. Gardiner coukd bring in some wing prospects as so desired, considering that hell most likely walk at the end of this year.

12 Oct 2018 14:43:51
@dnocherry

I like Niskanen better than Carlsson.

@topshelfslappers

Virtually every proposal I’ve floated in last six months has had Gardiner in it. Just keeping it fresh. We need to look at other possibilities.

12 Oct 2018 14:51:43
I’ve traded Gardiner for virtually everyone I can possibly think about trading him for. Twice. And Nylander is right behind him. These trades don’t have to take place this year. All I’m doing is pointing out where the bottlenecks are in our cap situation and suggesting ways to alleviate that before we run into a bigger cash crunch. Kadri and Reilly both have more value if we trade them before their contract year when they still have some term left for the receiving team. We get a larger return that way.

08 Oct 2018 00:15:19
Not my normal route, but here we go:

New York Trades: Kevin Hayes (C/ LW - 50% Retention - 3.00 Million x 1 Year)
Toronto Trades: Josh Leivo (LW - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) + Trevor Moore (RW - 0.925 Million x 1 Years) + 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

- Hayes is a pending UFA. Considering what they got for guys like Grabner, and the transaction records for guys like Patrick Maroon (similar caliber to Hayes), this seems about right. Hayes is a solid, big guy who would add some much needed size to this Toronto lineup, replacing a small Tyler Ennis. New York gets back a replacement in Leivo who is a step-down for sure, but also acquire a 2nd and one of the Leafs better prospects in Trevor Moore (Low-Risk, Medium Reward Player, almost destined to become a 3rd liner, with not much potential beyond that) . I debated between Moore and Grundstrom but Grundstrom has a higher ceiling, and is too much of an add-in for a UFA.

Toronto Trades: Jake Gardiner (LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year) + Eamon McAdam (G - 0.925 Million x 1 Year) + Frederik Gauthier (C - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Washington Trades: Madison Bowey (RD - 1.00 Million x 2 Years) + Connor Hobbs (RD - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) .

- Washington upgrades their defence in a major way for the time-being. Running Carlson/ Kempny, Orlov/ Niskanen, Gardiner/ Djoos would bea very solid dcore imo. Gauthier and McAdam are roster bodies, nothing more. Toronto downgrades their defence in general for this season, but acquires TWO RHD, which are good commodities. Bowey can step in as a physical presence this season, and get more minutes than in Washington (Stuck behind Carlson, Orlov, etc. ) Hobbs goes to a stacked Marlies team and can develop alongside Liljegren as RHD.

Toronto Trades: Martin Marincin (LD - 0.80 Million x 1 Year) + Andrew Nielsen (RD - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Ottawa Trades: Magnus Paajarvi (LW - 0.85 Million x 1 Year)

- Ottawa could use more defense, Toronto could use a veteran 14th forward. Nielsen and Marincin don’t have futures in Toronto, Paajarvi doesn’t have one in Ottawa. Simple trade.

William Nylander resigns, hopefully for a reasonable estimate of appx. 6.55 x 8 Years [52.5 Million Total]

Lineup:
Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Kevin Hayes - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Zach Hyman - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Andreas Johnsson - Par Lindholm - Kasperi Kapanen
*Tyler Ennis, Magnus Paajarvi

Morgan Rielly - Madison Bowey
Travis Dermott - Nikita Zaitsev
Ron Hainsey - Igor Ozhiganov
*Justin Holl

Frederik Andersen
Garrett Sparks

Maybe not a better team atm. But a bigger, more physical team. Forward depth has zero holes now (Ennis may have been one before), and defense is younger, cost-controlled and has tons of cheap RHD upcoming (Bowey, Liljegren, Hobbs, etc. )

08 Oct 2018 05:05:08
I like Kevin Hayes. A lot. Big kid that can bang in the pick and put up solid numbers. He would look good beside any of our theee centres. Not sure NYR make this deal, but if they would, Leafs would be foolish not to jump on it. We could even afford Hayes at his full salary this year. No need for NYR to retain. That may be a further incentive for them to move him.

Any trade that involves trading out Gardiner is a good trade in my eyes. Not sure Dubas feels the same way. If it makes the team weaker in any way, you can be sure he won’t do it. Even though I agree we should be dumping Giveaway for picks/ prospects rather than lose him for nothing.

Paajarvi is a monster. A real bust, he probably wouldn’t have much of a future in Toronto either. But he’s huge. And in my mind, bigger is better.

Well done TopShelfSlappers. I like your lineups. The forward group is especially solid. Defense as you said looks a little weaker, but trading Gardiner is addition through subtraction. And the guys you suggest all have talent and can make us better long term. A one step back, two step forward move.

08 Oct 2018 05:23:03
Not sure Washington would be up for trading young Bowey. Just my thought tho.

08 Oct 2018 15:30:51
Ty @LG, I do prefer this, especially as Hayes does provide some size to a small team.


@yupp

I felt the same way, but Washington would want to upgrade to keep their cup. Gardiner is a step up on Bowey for sure, and would allow them to cycle three d units. Gardiner is worth at least a first imo, and Bowey is basically that. Plus, Bowey will be stuck behind Carlson/ Kempny/ Orlov/ Niskanen for at least the next two years, and Djoos is also there, as is Johansen, both solid d prospects.

08 Oct 2018 18:28:36
Sore Gardiner is an upgrade right now for this season but age and contract I wouldn't make this trade if I was Washington myself. Gardiner older and a UFA at seasons end with rumors of maybe wanting upwards to $7M per year long term on the next deal. I get what you're saying for this year, go for the cup again, And I think I'm now on the fence with all things considered. Leafs are the ones who need to upgrade D not downgrade. Can't win every game 7-6.

24 Aug 2018 00:56:35
wsh-hobbs,2nd(2019)
tml-sparkes,leivo

24 Aug 2018 18:33:36
Caps are fine for goalies and Leivo doesn't get Hobbs or a 2nd imo. Holtby, Copley, Samsonov is a nice top 3 for goalie depth.

24 Aug 2018 20:38:44
Samsonov is a good prospect for sure, but if I were running the caps, he would be playing a lot, whether in the AHL or Europe (not sure of his contract situation) . Backing up Holtby who is going to play 60+ games isn’t ideal for a young guy with that potential and Copely rocked almost a 3.00GAA and under a .900 save% in 41 AHL games last season. Doesn’t exactly scream confidence for 18-22 games this season with holtby on the bench (More if he gets hurt) . A back up needs to go .500 on a good team, I would t bet on that with him. Not sure if this is the right deal for them but saying their goalie depth is good for this upcoming season isn’t exactly true. Losing Grubrauer really hurt.

24 Aug 2018 20:52:44
I don’t know value wise of Hobbs really but I think Leafs are a good place to shop for a back up goalie. Mchillinney was good last season and is a proven veteran, I think Pickard is a capable backup and an upgrade on a few back ups and Sparks although not getting a chance to prove it in the NhL, he’s 52-18-1 in the AHL over the past 2 seasons with a combined 1.88GAA .929sv% and then went 14-5 with a .915% and a 2.22 gaa to win the Calder Cup. That’s as good of resume as you’re going to find on a guy that hasn’t got to prove it in the NHL. He’s not a guarantee at all, but he has value to teams looking for depth at that position.

24 Aug 2018 20:54:50
Yeah but Caps don’t need an unproven back up for next season like Sparks. Samsonov will play lots wether it’s in the KHL or AHL and when he’s ready Holtby will be backing him up/ traded just like Fluery and Bishop. They can sign a veteran free agent goalie if they need.

25 Aug 2018 04:59:59
Would Howard @50% retained from Wings be of interest to Caps? Looking for at least a 3rd, maybe becomes 2nd if re-signs or Caps make conference finals

Also if they no longer want Copley, we can take him to play back up and help us get Jack Hughes (I can dream haha)

Another option could be Lehtonen, would be a decent back up.

11 Jul 2018 21:20:26
Washington: Tom Wilson/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

Columbus: Antrimi Paniran

* Capitals have over 8 million in cap space with only Wilson to sign

Washington- gets the best player in the deal and one of the most skilled players in the nhl. Would be ridiculous on the 2nd line. Could finally break out and become Washington's highest producing player.

Columbus: Wilson is one of the best in the NHL at what he does ( torts would love him ) and Bura is a young player on the uprise. They also get 2 1st round picks.

Top 9 for caps-
Ovie-Backstrom-Vrana
Paniran-Kuz-Oshie
Bura-Eller-Smith Pelly

12 Jul 2018 05:18:08
1) the value of wilson and burakovsky are way different
2) if you want to suggest a trade you should be able to spell the guy's name. Panarin*.

12 Jul 2018 13:06:19
Good work, vb. Is this offer for an extended Paniran or not?

12 Jul 2018 13:35:36
No it’s not for an extended Paniran but if he were willing to take a discount around 7 mil the caps could resign him.

12 Jul 2018 13:42:41
PKane88- maybe provide some imput on the actual trade instead of stating the obvious? I sware I went on cap geek to Copy his name but I totally forgot lol. Anyway what’s your imput on the value.

12 Jul 2018 15:43:04
I think the jackets could do better even without an extension in place for panarin. I also think he will get paid at least 9 mil or more.

13 Jul 2018 03:50:12
You butchered his name lol

13 Jul 2018 13:03:59
Way too much for wsh to give up wilson and a first is plenty.

13 Jul 2018 13:38:21
VB- I said that burakovsky and wilson value is way different, if it is wilson i'd say fair deal, if burakovsky i'd say huge overpayment by washington.

03 Jul 2018 19:56:18
Ottawa is a tough spot they can either trade Karlsson for an underwhelming return or lose him as an FA.

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan

Vegas: Colin Miller and 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Vegas: Shea Theodore, Alex Tuch and 2nd 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Colorado: Zandonov/Timmins and Ottawa's 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Tampa: Tyler Johnson, Taylor Raddish, Slatter Koekkoek And 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Washington:Matt Niskanen, Jakub Varna/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

If he is traded he'll return a similar package to these.

03 Jul 2018 20:27:42
Eric karlson was never top of my fav players list but I've noticed over the last 3 years he's really improved his play in the defensive zone along with being the top offensive defenseman in the league. I'm not going to be one of these guys who say he's one of the top 3 players in the league but when he's healthy he is for sure top 10. So essentially what I'm saying is if this is all it takes to get him and montreal doesn't at least try then I would be super ticked off.

03 Jul 2018 21:02:11
I highly doubt he’d resign with a non competitive team + do they really wanna pay him 11-13 million. @habby.

03 Jul 2018 21:15:08
I'm sure other places would be more attractive to him ATM but not all the teams that look like contenders on paper can afford him. and maybe he'd like to stay close to where he's been his whole career and that means toronto or montreal really. And the habs can afford to take on his and Ryan's cap and yes resign him too.

03 Jul 2018 21:16:36
We don't really know where his preferred destinations are yet but I wouldn't bet on it being montreal or toronto just the same.

03 Jul 2018 21:45:41
vegas fan right here.

03 Jul 2018 22:14:52
Colorado AND vegas fan =)

03 Jul 2018 22:30:04
Actually I’m a leafs fan and even if that were true ( leafs don’t even have the cap ) the sens would not trade their best player in franchise history to two of their biggest rivals you guys can disagree all you want but once Ottawa let’s Karlsson walk or gets an underwhelming return I’ll be the 1st to tell you guys I told you so just like I told Rambo about Hoffman.

03 Jul 2018 23:57:54
Toronto has better young guys than Montreal does. I don't think it would be wise to trade to either. I believe he will be traded to the West. If Karlsson goes to Toronto, the Leafs will be in playoffs for long time especially with Tavares probably a cup or 2. Dorion needs to find either a good top 2 Centre, goalie and between prospect or top 4 D-Man.

04 Jul 2018 02:30:04
I'm not disagreeing with you when you say he won't get as much as Rambo thinks he will I just don't see either of these deals being enough at this time.

04 Jul 2018 02:30:25
Some are probably close though.

04 Jul 2018 13:54:01
Just such random and so many values that are so different, hard to tell what you think Karlsson value is, colin Miller and a first? Obviously no from sens. The second trade with a first instead of a 2nd looks a lot better. The teams rumored to get him are contenders other than NYi, so a 2nd would be 50-60 pick and that's not enough.

24 Jun 2018 20:36:50
Edmonton Oilers:

- (D) Colby Williams

Washington Capitals:

- (G) Al Montoya

==

A minor trade.
Washington Capitals need a backup and Montoya is a cheap one.

Ryan Mantha's career looks to be over due to an injury. Colby Williams looked fine over the past two AHL seasons and could fill that hole on the Barons' roster.

More on Colby Williams:
He was selected with the 6th round pick in 2015 as an over-ager. He's spent the last two seasons in the AHL with the Hershey Bears. He is a tough defender, lacks a little size.

24 Jun 2018 20:47:17
Sounds good to me Montoya can frig off.

16 Jun 2018 18:57:52
WPG: Perrault
MON: 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH), 2nd Round Pick 2018 (TOR)

16 Jun 2018 20:59:00
I like Perrault but I think if habs trade for a center its gunna be a top 6 center.
Rather keep those picks and sweeten up Montreal’s weak prospect pool.

16 Jun 2018 21:20:10
Perreault would return more than that and I don't think the Jets want to move him.

16 Jun 2018 23:43:55
That would be a great offer for Perreault but I believe that Chevy would try to bundle him in a package that may include Myers, Petan, Kulikov Mason and Copp to get a better return. The Jets have 4 or 5 players ready to step up to the big team so they can afford to make 4 for 1/ 2 players, draft choices or prospects.

17 Jun 2018 05:12:59
I want a deal that includes Kulikov.

17 Jun 2018 08:05:15
The Jets could get more for Perreault.

17 Jun 2018 15:28:47
After this last trade by Montreal, If they want Perrault I bet they offer Pacioretty.

17 Jun 2018 15:29:04
Why would you want kulikov lol?

15 Jun 2018 10:50:16
2 trades for the Isles

1) Philipp Grubauer and Brooks Orpik for 2018 CGY 2nd (43rd OA)

NYI get a 1B goalie to challenge his conutryman Greiss for the starter's job. This competition should be useful. Orpik is a cap dumb. He lessens the value of Grubauer. Washington gets the cap space to re-sign Carlson and others, Isles solve their goalie issues relatively cheap.

2) Brooks Orpik (50% retained by NYI) for Matt Martin

The Leafs get rid of two years of Martin's contract in exchange for one year of Polak's replacement as the tough guy. This helps the Leafs cap-wise in the near future. The Isles re-unite the fourth line of Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck.

15 Jun 2018 21:12:18
I’m sure there’s other teams that will offer more than Calgary will for Grubauer. I don’t think they need him bad enough to make the trade. Also they wouldn’t want to retain on Orpik and take Martins contract. Doesn’t make any sense for them.

11 Jun 2018 11:32:35
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

11 Jun 2018 17:45:14
Wtf great deal for caps.

11 Jun 2018 11:26:08
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

08 Jun 2018 09:23:04
Sign and Trade
Grubauer for Ho-Sang + 2nd

NYI get their starting goalie

WSH gets someone who I think would fit great on 1st line with Ovi and Kuznetsov.

08 Jun 2018 13:00:37
I'd like to think grubaur could fetch more, ho-sang is so iffy to me.

04 Jun 2018 01:00:18
WPG: Perrault, 5th Round Pick 2018
MON: 2nd Round Pick 2018, 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH)

Then

WPG: 2nd Round Pick 2018, 2nd Round Pick 2018 (MON), 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH)
DET: 6th Overall Pick 2018

04 Jun 2018 03:02:23
Are you really offering 3 secound for a sixt overall.

04 Jun 2018 03:30:59
That might be able to get the 25th pick from Toronto. That’d not even close for the 6th overall. Would you trade Ehlers for 3 2nds?

04 Jun 2018 04:09:01
hell no from montreal and hwll no from Washington.

04 Jun 2018 04:09:28
hell no from Detroit my bad not Washington.

04 Jun 2018 16:31:10
3 second round picks would not get the 6th over all selection. The Jets would have to throw in Myers or Little and a prospect and even then it would probably be a no. Only Trouba would make Detroit trade that pick and the Jets would want more on top of the #6.

22 May 2018 20:43:57
TOR: 2018 2nd, Calle Rosen, Josh Leivo
WAS: Brooks Orpik, Matt Niskanen

Doesn't seem like much coming from Toronto but we would be eating cap for them inorder for them to resign Carlson.

Brooks Orpik is obviously a cap dump with a year left at 5.5M. Niskanen has 3 years left at 5.75M and would be a good partner for Rielly in my opinion.

22 May 2018 21:27:25
If Niskanen continues to decline in play, the Leafs will have over 10 million dollars committed to him and Zaitsev for minimum 3 years, all while having to work out the new contracts for the big 3, plus Kapanen and Johnsson coming up for renewals as well. Not very well thought out, Leafs with the hard no.

22 May 2018 21:50:40
So tell how you plan on paying Matthews/ Marner/ Nylander?

22 May 2018 23:37:52
No from leafs, why not just target an actually good dman who is better suited for them instead of taking cap dumps.

23 May 2018 03:35:41
The Leafs window to take cap dumps is about over. They have some great pieces to build around. They should start focusing on plugging holes with complementary talent, not cast-offs.

23 May 2018 03:41:42
A good d man is going to cost us an arm and a leg. Leafs can afford to take a cap dump next year.

23 May 2018 12:52:53
Ya but why get to cap dumps and give a second to get them. Unless Niskanen is worth his money which is probably not true since he is ok but for 5.5 million its too much.

23 May 2018 16:15:30
Leafs have assets to get a good Dman and are not in a position anymore to take other teams bad money. If we’re trading a decent pick and 2 young players, plus taking a cap dump i'd want someone better than niskanen or atleast someone as good as niskanen but on a very team friendly contract, not 5.75x3. That would be us paying all that to have niskanen as our highest paid Dman and second highest paid player overall behind marleau this season (depending on Nylander of course) . Bad plan.

19 May 2018 17:10:29
wsh-hobbs
tml-leivo

18 May 2018 04:02:53
Washington
Ovechkin

Edmonton
Drai, 10 OA Pick, Kleffbom

What do you think?

18 May 2018 04:27:26
Looool no from edmonton big time

18 May 2018 08:55:11
No from Oilers .

18 May 2018 10:57:30
Lol no from oilers? No let’s not take the leading scorer of the decade coming of of a 49 goal art Ross season for a 4th/ 3rd dman and Ty Smith ( a potential top 4 d )

18 May 2018 11:21:09
@vb
I think you’re forgetting Drais.


But to be honest, as much as it may be a lot of youth going out from Edmonton, this is pretty interesting. Washington would never do this, even if the value is lopsided in their favour, there would be riots over trading Ovie after he got em past the third round. and Washington doesn't really need Drais with Kuzy and Backstrom down the middle. As for Edmonton, that's a ton to give up, and that's why i'd probably say no from them too, however, can you imagine McDavid - Ovechkin for the better part of the next ten years? Ovie would easily be a 60 goal man year after year, cause McDavid is well better than Backstrom. Idk. If Ovie lost in the second round again, this would be intriguing. But i just think its a bit too much from Edmonton, and a trade Washington just shouldn't make.

18 May 2018 12:44:48
I think drais looses a lot of value Becuase of his high price contract, good player but.

18 May 2018 16:51:25
Yes VB, Ovie is the best goal scorer of a decade, and I love the guy and the way he plays. Problem is, he’s not going to lead the way for another decade. Draisatl at 22 or whatever, klefbom in his mid 20s and whatever 18 year old they get with the 10th overall can contribute for the next decade+.

19 May 2018 03:20:11
Didn’t see Drais in the trade.

15 May 2018 19:44:47
what would it take for montreal to get the a pick in the region of 12-14

Unavailable players and picks are

Drouin
Galchenyuk
Price
Mete
Weber
3OVA
Danault

Can this do it

Poehling, 2018 2nd, 2018 2nd from toronto and Washington.

15 May 2018 20:01:50
and Gallagher.

15 May 2018 21:33:17
So you are saying they should trade their best prospect and 2 possibly good prospects for a player that won't be much better than Poehling? AND Gallagher?

15 May 2018 21:56:19
why the hell would you give all that for a mid round pick. i say try and get top 10 or it ain't worth it.

16 May 2018 15:15:57
No from mtl unless were getting another top 5 pick lol. Gallagher and Phoeling should get you a pick in the top 10 by themself.

26 Apr 2018 18:50:50
Clearly after last night the Leafs need Dmen bad as I already noted in other trades.

Toronto: Kapanen, Johnsson, 1st 2018

Washington: Niskanen, Beagle, 3rd 2018.

27 Apr 2018 03:46:56
leafs say no even without the 1st.

27 Apr 2018 10:14:08
Don't think the capital a going to be welling to give up the any d cause there probably going to loss Carlson.

06 Apr 2018 17:29:03
The islanders are in need of defence.
Oilers are in need of cap space and wingers and RHD. What about this?

Oilers: Sekera
Islanders: Ho Sang (He isn’t working for them)

Oilers: get a good RHW prospect that is cheap and would look good on McDavid’s right wing.
Islanders: get a good defence man in return.

Oilers: will have the space to go over for RHD. Would love Carlson (Capitals), but maybe Green for a season or two until Bear is better ready for the NHL.

06 Apr 2018 18:11:17
Sekera has been terrible this year, and has like negative value rn. He ain't getting Ho Sang tbh, espex at that contract.

06 Apr 2018 18:22:53
Sekera has always been a good dman. This season he was injured and hurt.

06 Apr 2018 18:35:27
Also, what has Ho sang proven? Nothing! Potential and bad attitude only!

06 Apr 2018 18:45:28
Ho sang hasn’t proved anything so can’t see him with so much value and you can’t say sekera has been terrible considering he was injured the whole year and had the worst luck iv ever seen. However yes he was not a good player this year unfortunately and with his contract he defs does not carry a whole ton of value. But no from islanders on this one, maybe Russell intrigues Islanders? Or benning?

06 Apr 2018 19:10:21
Damn it NYI don’t need an other defensive DMan.

06 Apr 2018 20:44:45
That’s how islanders get better in the absence of Tavares. trade a young high skilled forward for a 4th-5th D who makes half what it would take to keep Tavares lol.

06 Apr 2018 22:00:57
It doesn’t matter how skilled the forwards are. No defence, no winning. We saw that his year with the oilers and the islanders. Plus, I’m betting Bo Sang will be traded soon. Bad terms!

06 Apr 2018 23:18:05
@MJ

Matt Benning shoukd be able to get it done tbh. I'm not saying Sekera isn't proven to be decent/ good. I'm saying NYI should never want that contract on their team, especially with only 3 points in 36 games this year. Sure he's been injured, but any trade of him ATM would be a pure salary dump, and no value should be going back the other way. Just simply based on this year, and his contract.

Matt Benning and a 3rd may be good though.

And @EOil, no HoSang hasn't proven much, but NYI ain't going to trade a former first round pick for a bad contract.

06 Apr 2018 23:48:00
Yup I agree top shelf.
And benning and a 3rd could be very interesting to islanders If they really do wanna trade ho sang.

07 Apr 2018 00:42:08
Sekera has nagitive value.

07 Apr 2018 02:54:24
Sekera is also 31. Bad attitude or not, Ho Sang is a 22 year old forward with talent that you have slotted in next to McDavid. I’m guessing he’s worth more than Sekera.

07 Apr 2018 18:18:08
Again, got to love when guys make a trade proposal for a player, put him on their projected top line and then tear the player down and try to diminish the asset when people tell you it’s not a fair offer. If HoSang is unproven, not worth anything and a bad attitude, then there’s an easy solution. don’t trade for him! Why bring a problem into the dressing room and put him with your best player! Lol.

07 Apr 2018 21:05:40
I didn’t say the kid isn’t talented, but his trade value is low. I’m putting that out. That means he doesn’t require a top dman to get him, especially when the islanders need dman. So ya lol!

17 Mar 2018 19:38:19
To NYI:
Philipp Grubauer

To WSH:
Michael Dal Colle
Conditional pick 2019


For the Isles, it's clear. They get a young 1B goalie who can challenge his countryman Greiss for the starter's job.

Caps get a LW prospect who seems to be a bust but still can turn it around if given a chance to play with skilled players. The conditional pick will depend on games played by MDC in 2018-19. If he plays less than 40 NHL games, Caps also get CGY's 2nd in 2019. If he plays 41+ games, there's no pick from the Isles (similar to Drouin-Sergachev trade).

17 Mar 2018 20:13:44
Lol going to take a much better goalie.

18 Mar 2018 12:47:07
Honestly, not too bad.

Problem is, Isles have tried too many 'iffy' goalies (Greiss, Berube, Halak, Gibson, etc. ) and I feel that Grub may fall into the same boat, considering he doesn't have any seasons as a 'starter' under his belt. I could see them going after a guy like Anttii Raanta, or even a guy like Craig Anderson due to their experience.

But the proposed trade is pretty fair imo.

19 Mar 2018 22:28:15
Post some of those unbiased leaf trades for a change. Leafs could use a dman or two . I hear Paul martin is on the market lol.

20 Mar 2018 02:33:09
Concede.

03 Mar 2018 23:23:09
Look we all know Drouin isn't a Center and never will be and Galchenyuk is better than him in that position sooo

Mtl trades Pacioretty, 2018 2nd(washington).

Edmonton trades: Puljajarvi, 2019 1st.

Drafts Tkachuk

Drouin-Galchenyuk-Puljajarvi
Scherback-Tkachuk-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Danault-Byron
Deslauriers-Shaw-Froese

Rielly-Weber
Mete-Petry
Alzner-Juulsen

Price

03 Mar 2018 23:32:47
Edmonton ain't trading the 1st overall pick. Lol.

03 Mar 2018 23:35:06
No thanks bruh.

03 Mar 2018 23:58:06
You are delusionnal too
Oilers are not going to throw all theses years of reconstruction in the garbage.

04 Mar 2018 00:29:11
pick is top 10 protected.

04 Mar 2018 01:14:51
Take out that picks and still no from Edm.

04 Mar 2018 01:46:05
Pick also says 2019.

04 Mar 2018 03:30:14
Lol. Why you guys always trying for Oilers players. Go after some other teams.
Easy no from Edm. Look at age and contracts man. Jeez.

04 Mar 2018 10:25:08
Ya but is Chuck ok at center? Wasnt he ok last year for 44 games when he had 41 points in 44 games? Wasnt he a point player for 44 games in this league? Isn't that good?

04 Mar 2018 14:24:50
Not the problem
You think we can get a future elite scorer for peanuts.

04 Mar 2018 18:25:04
Maybe if you switch the picks around.

04 Mar 2018 19:54:22
Fair deal for everybody not name Mtl.

05 Mar 2018 19:10:43
Probably not "targeting" Oiler players as the GM's trading record.

 
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