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06 Apr 2018 17:29:03
The islanders are in need of defence.
Oilers are in need of cap space and wingers and RHD. What about this?

Oilers: Sekera
Islanders: Ho Sang (He isn’t working for them)

Oilers: get a good RHW prospect that is cheap and would look good on McDavid’s right wing.
Islanders: get a good defence man in return.

Oilers: will have the space to go over for RHD. Would love Carlson (Capitals), but maybe Green for a season or two until Bear is better ready for the NHL.

06 Apr 2018 18:11:17
Sekera has been terrible this year, and has like negative value rn. He ain't getting Ho Sang tbh, espex at that contract.

06 Apr 2018 18:22:53
Sekera has always been a good dman. This season he was injured and hurt.

06 Apr 2018 18:35:27
Also, what has Ho sang proven? Nothing! Potential and bad attitude only!

06 Apr 2018 18:45:28
Ho sang hasn’t proved anything so can’t see him with so much value and you can’t say sekera has been terrible considering he was injured the whole year and had the worst luck iv ever seen. However yes he was not a good player this year unfortunately and with his contract he defs does not carry a whole ton of value. But no from islanders on this one, maybe Russell intrigues Islanders? Or benning?

06 Apr 2018 19:10:21
Damn it NYI don’t need an other defensive DMan.

06 Apr 2018 20:44:45
That’s how islanders get better in the absence of Tavares. trade a young high skilled forward for a 4th-5th D who makes half what it would take to keep Tavares lol.

06 Apr 2018 22:00:57
It doesn’t matter how skilled the forwards are. No defence, no winning. We saw that his year with the oilers and the islanders. Plus, I’m betting Bo Sang will be traded soon. Bad terms!

06 Apr 2018 23:18:05
@MJ

Matt Benning shoukd be able to get it done tbh. I'm not saying Sekera isn't proven to be decent/ good. I'm saying NYI should never want that contract on their team, especially with only 3 points in 36 games this year. Sure he's been injured, but any trade of him ATM would be a pure salary dump, and no value should be going back the other way. Just simply based on this year, and his contract.

Matt Benning and a 3rd may be good though.

And @EOil, no HoSang hasn't proven much, but NYI ain't going to trade a former first round pick for a bad contract.

06 Apr 2018 23:48:00
Yup I agree top shelf.
And benning and a 3rd could be very interesting to islanders If they really do wanna trade ho sang.

07 Apr 2018 00:42:08
Sekera has nagitive value.

07 Apr 2018 02:54:24
Sekera is also 31. Bad attitude or not, Ho Sang is a 22 year old forward with talent that you have slotted in next to McDavid. I’m guessing he’s worth more than Sekera.

07 Apr 2018 18:18:08
Again, got to love when guys make a trade proposal for a player, put him on their projected top line and then tear the player down and try to diminish the asset when people tell you it’s not a fair offer. If HoSang is unproven, not worth anything and a bad attitude, then there’s an easy solution. don’t trade for him! Why bring a problem into the dressing room and put him with your best player! Lol.

07 Apr 2018 21:05:40
I didn’t say the kid isn’t talented, but his trade value is low. I’m putting that out. That means he doesn’t require a top dman to get him, especially when the islanders need dman. So ya lol!

17 Mar 2018 19:38:19
To NYI:
Philipp Grubauer

To WSH:
Michael Dal Colle
Conditional pick 2019


For the Isles, it's clear. They get a young 1B goalie who can challenge his countryman Greiss for the starter's job.

Caps get a LW prospect who seems to be a bust but still can turn it around if given a chance to play with skilled players. The conditional pick will depend on games played by MDC in 2018-19. If he plays less than 40 NHL games, Caps also get CGY's 2nd in 2019. If he plays 41+ games, there's no pick from the Isles (similar to Drouin-Sergachev trade).

17 Mar 2018 20:13:44
Lol going to take a much better goalie.

18 Mar 2018 12:47:07
Honestly, not too bad.

Problem is, Isles have tried too many 'iffy' goalies (Greiss, Berube, Halak, Gibson, etc. ) and I feel that Grub may fall into the same boat, considering he doesn't have any seasons as a 'starter' under his belt. I could see them going after a guy like Anttii Raanta, or even a guy like Craig Anderson due to their experience.

But the proposed trade is pretty fair imo.

19 Mar 2018 22:28:15
Post some of those unbiased leaf trades for a change. Leafs could use a dman or two . I hear Paul martin is on the market lol.

20 Mar 2018 02:33:09
Concede.

03 Mar 2018 23:23:09
Look we all know Drouin isn't a Center and never will be and Galchenyuk is better than him in that position sooo

Mtl trades Pacioretty, 2018 2nd(washington).

Edmonton trades: Puljajarvi, 2019 1st.

Drafts Tkachuk

Drouin-Galchenyuk-Puljajarvi
Scherback-Tkachuk-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Danault-Byron
Deslauriers-Shaw-Froese

Rielly-Weber
Mete-Petry
Alzner-Juulsen

Price

03 Mar 2018 23:32:47
Edmonton ain't trading the 1st overall pick. Lol.

03 Mar 2018 23:35:06
No thanks bruh.

03 Mar 2018 23:58:06
You are delusionnal too
Oilers are not going to throw all theses years of reconstruction in the garbage.

04 Mar 2018 00:29:11
pick is top 10 protected.

04 Mar 2018 01:14:51
Take out that picks and still no from Edm.

04 Mar 2018 01:46:05
Pick also says 2019.

04 Mar 2018 03:30:14
Lol. Why you guys always trying for Oilers players. Go after some other teams.
Easy no from Edm. Look at age and contracts man. Jeez.

04 Mar 2018 10:25:08
Ya but is Chuck ok at center? Wasnt he ok last year for 44 games when he had 41 points in 44 games? Wasnt he a point player for 44 games in this league? Isn't that good?

04 Mar 2018 14:24:50
Not the problem
You think we can get a future elite scorer for peanuts.

04 Mar 2018 18:25:04
Maybe if you switch the picks around.

04 Mar 2018 19:54:22
Fair deal for everybody not name Mtl.

05 Mar 2018 19:10:43
Probably not "targeting" Oiler players as the GM's trading record.

22 Feb 2018 21:24:13
What should the Leafs do?

Everybody has a different opinion on this, here is mine.

Stand pat at the deadline.
I know people want to win now but remember that our core has plenty of years left so don't rush it. Teams will be asking for players such as:
Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Dermott if the Leafs go after one of the high quality names put there and in my opinion that would waste what they have been trying to do(win for many years, not just one). Teams such as Boston and Tampa are already ahead of them this year, with Pittsburgh always playoff dangerous, so let them break the farm for a chance to win this year.
Bozak and JVR WILL be gone in the off season so get something for them. Add during the off season when more players will be available for trade or Free agency.

Deadline
JVR(TOR)
for
Miller.C(VEG)

With an abundance of dman under contract for next year or RFA's, getting rid of another for a scoring winger for an extra push in the playoffs would help

Bozak.T(TOR)
for
Pilon.G, 4th-2018(WAS)

Capitals get a strong 3rd line center , Leafs get a center prospect which they don't have a lot of

Off Season
Sign
Komarov.L 2 yrs - $4 mil
Nylander.W 6 yrs - $39 mil
Carrick.C 2 yrs - $4.5 mil
Miller.C 3 yrs - $9 mil

This still leaves over $6 mil to play with.

2018-2019

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Johnsson-?-Brown
Hyman-Gauthier-Komarov
Martin

Reilly-Millar
Gardiner-Hainsey
Zaitsev-Dermott
Carrick

22 Feb 2018 21:33:00
And. that's the problem with trading Bozak. I'd rather hold onto him for the playoff push, and maybe even resign him. He knows the system, and will be cheaper than his 4.2 million that he's making now. Plus, he's played with this team his entire career, if we make a decent offer, hell prob resign. So honestly, i'd rather keep Bozak and attempt to resign him.

With JVR, he isn't getting a dman who is an RFA (controllable asset) who has nearly the same amount of points as him. And Vegas wouldn't want to go for JVR, they have way too many forwards already.

22 Feb 2018 22:36:20
I agree with standing pat. I’m ok with a small add at center and even defense if it doesn’t cost too much. I would like it if they traded JVR if they get decent value. Trading JVR also allows Martin back in the line up, depending on what else they do. I know lots of you don’t like Martin but he is important come playoffs. I agree with TSS 100% with keeping Bozak. He is and has been very underrated for years. He plays PP, PK and is good on the draw. I don’t think they should pursue McDonagh. He is a very solid defenseman but I think the leafs would give up too much.

23 Feb 2018 01:36:27
Bozak will hit the open market. with the salary cap going up his salary will increase as well. It happens every time.

23 Feb 2018 16:31:15
I get that they want to keep Carrick but 2.5mil for. 7th D man when you have Lilj coming up. Also I would keep Bozak and JVR for a playoff push then if you lose them you lose them then you have more money in free agency.

21 Feb 2018 17:44:43
Jerabek traded to caps for 5th pick

21 Feb 2018 19:16:28
What you think of this? I'm kinda disappointed . I don't think he was given much of an opportunity in Montreal. I'm not saying he was going to be a star. but at least he could move the damn puck.,
Woulda like to have seen a bigger sample size.

21 Feb 2018 19:26:02
Your right Sosa he wasnt given much of a chance a crowded blue line at the beginning of the season kept him in the minors and lately he was scratched in favor of morrow for some reason. he was the best dman for laval while he was there. that being said I think it came down to him wanting anew one way contract that the habs were not interested in giving him. So they traded him for another draft pick. it didn't cost them anything to get him so at least this way they get something for him albeit not much.

22 Feb 2018 17:41:06
Stupid move. how can you assess a guy who hasn't played enough games to be expendable.

16 Feb 2018 16:47:35
Mtl:Pacioretty,Plekanec,Lehkonen, 2nd/2018 (Washington)

Flo:Bjugstad,Borgstrom,1st/2018(draft protect) become 1st/2019 (non-protect)

16 Feb 2018 16:53:23
Nice try. Florida isn't trading their 1st for one year of Pacioretty.

16 Feb 2018 19:24:44
-Its so easy to sign Pacioretty right away (~7,5m/ 5-6 years) . He's going to be in love with Florida after all the big pressure of Mtl.

-Plekanec would be a realy nice addition as a third line center with experience but also realy good for defensive mission like 5 on 4.

-Lehkonen have a good potential. He's a realy good two way player with a good wrist shot.

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-Bjugstad is a big center, still young who score around 20-25 goals. But never develop as he was suppose to.

-Borgstrom is the big piece of that trade. He have a lot of potential, he have good hand and he's able to score but still he proved nothing yet in the Nhl.

-The first choice with the second 2018 Florida receive is nothing for Pacioretty. The only piece Florida lose in the line up is Bjugstad.

And look at the Florida lines.

Huberdeau-Barkov-Dadonov
Pacioretty-Trocheck-Malgin
Mccann-Plekanec-Lehkonen
Mcginn-Mackenzie-Sceviour

-Look realy good for the final push and next years! No?

-Mtl have what they crucialy need, depth at the center position.

16 Feb 2018 19:49:09
I want Montreal to keep lehkonen. He’s got lots of potential just hasn’t been able to find a groove with injuries and the lack of offensive centers.

16 Feb 2018 20:23:37
I agree! But you have to give if you went a good center and everybody know that Mtl need center, so.
Anyway mtl have a lot of wingers and I have more hope in Hudon or Sherback for there offensive potentiel than Lehkonen who's more defensive and need to improve offensive. Also Lehkonen have a better value I think.

17 Jan 2018 22:43:31
WSH - Tom Wilson
CGY - 2nd Round Pick + Oliver Kylington

Flames might need to add idk, i was going to put a 1st but they traded theirs to NYI.

18 Jan 2018 00:34:39
Washington values Wilson a lot more than that.

18 Jan 2018 01:24:26
They traded the 2nd also.

18 Jan 2018 01:48:02
That’s also a lot for just a grinder but I guess he’s not bad.

18 Jan 2018 16:02:48
Trade as proposed is not possible as Calgary has already forfeited their 2nd round picks for 2018 AND 2019.

16 Jan 2018 22:06:18
I heard this rumour on the radio this morning:

OTT: Hoffman ceci

WSH: OSHIE and 2018 1st

Just what i heard but thought i'd share.

17 Jan 2018 00:05:51
I think capitals lose that imo.

17 Jan 2018 00:06:04
But that’s interesting.

17 Jan 2018 01:41:14
Personally, I wouldn't do it as a sens fan. I don't value oshie that high and that 1st is going to be very late.

17 Jan 2018 22:23:28
How exactly do the capitals lose on that mcjesus?

This is exactly what I keep saying. You people underrate sens players way too much. hoffman oshie are close in value but I still rank hoffman a bit higher but Ceci is definitely worth a high 1st round pick not a bottom 5 to 7 that's a joke.

09 Jan 2018 08:28:10
to Arizona
Orpik
Garrett Pilon

to Washington
Goligoski

Washington gets a better defenseman for yet another shot at a cup and does not take on any new cap. Although Goligoski's contract is longer than that of Orpik's by a decent margin, the only damage that does is the inevitable John Carlson situation, which would have been a problem anyway (personally I think they move Lars Eller at some point to make room for Carlson's 2-3M pay raise) . Arizona gets a solid prospect in return.

31 Dec 2017 03:06:54
Teardown:

Erik Karlsson + Tom Pyatt + Alexander Burrows to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Jesse Puljujarvi + Darnell Nurse + Patrick Maroon + 2018 1st Round Draft Pick + 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.
*Ottawa acquires tons of young futures. Edmonton acquires a piece that could out them over the top.

Mike Hoffman + Patrick Maroon to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for Jordan Kyrou + Magnus Paajarvi + Vince Dunn + 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick.
*Ottawa flips the vet from the Edmonton deal and one of their better scorers for a tantalizing prospect in Kyrou, and a decent dman in Dunn. St. Louis acquires an excellent source of secondary scoring, and a good grinder for the bottom six.

Dion Phaneuf (10% Salary Retained) to the Washington Capitals in exchange for Brooks Orpik + 4th Round Draft Pick
*Ottawa rids themselves of a terrible contract, in exchange for another terrible contract. Orpik has two less years though, so he's a better contract - yet, he's a worse player. With the retained salary, the added pick is needed.

Derick Brassard + Nate Thompson to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for Matt Calvert + Gabriel Carlsson + Markus Hannikainen + 2018 4th Round Draft Pick.
*Columbus is said to have interest in Brassard, and Brassard isn't opposed to the idea. This allows Columbus to be more 'over-the-top' in a tight metro division. For Ottawa, they get a good prospect in Carlsson, an 'eh' prospect in Hannikainen, and a decent depth guy in Calvert.

Johnny Oduya + Mike Condon to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick + 2018 5th Round Draft Pick.
*This ONLY happens if Aaron Dell is shipped off in SJS, which is likely to happen. San Jose acquires more picks, while shipping off a meh dman and a backup goalie.

Ryan Dzingel to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick + 2019 4th Round Draft Pick + Andrey Pedan.

Lineup:
Jesse Puljujarvi - Matt Duchene - Bobby Ryan
Matt Calvert - Jean-Gabriel Pageau - Mark Stone
Magnus Paajarvi - Colin White - Markus Hannikainen
Nick Paul - Zack Smith - Gabriel Dumont
*Chris DiDomenico

Cody Ceci - Darnell Nurse
Frederik Claesson - Vince Dunn
Brooks Orpik - Gabriel Carlsson
*Andrey Pedan, Chris Wideman

Craig Anderson
Chris Dreidger.

31 Dec 2017 04:53:44
You are off your rocker shelfer,

First Dunn is lhd and you have him as rhd.

Both guys you put that the blues are getting are left wingers so now blues have 8 lwers

Lol

Dunn is untouchable future jaybo replacement. Kyrou best player in ohl lol no thanks

All these trades are bad.

31 Dec 2017 06:11:27
As good as Karlsson obviously is, this probably makes oilers worse in the big picture. They need those young assets and picks and if this happened, they would have 3 players going to make $33 mill. Bad idea. (Mcdavid 12.5, Karlsson 11-12 and draisatl 8.5). No one gives that up without re-signing him.

Kyrou is a ‘tantalizing prospect’ that you probably never heard of before Boxing Day

Why would caps add a pick to take on extra years on an overpaid Dman over the guy they already have?

Calvert is a ‘depth guy’ leaving Columbus and in the top 6 when he arrives in Ottawa lol must be a long flight from Ohio to Ottawa for his game to improve.

31 Dec 2017 07:29:23
You put too much time into this. Again.

31 Dec 2017 08:34:02
It's tough to do those full rebuilds, not a bad job by you. I'd recommend for OTT to fix their goaltending first tho. Last in the league in many goalie stats. With average goaltending, pretty sure the Sens are 8-10 spots higher. Last year clearly was a fluke, but they're better than bottom 3.

31 Dec 2017 13:30:28
as i said before if you think your sens are that good keep them because no one else wants them.

31 Dec 2017 16:13:37
Edm is not giving up Pulijaarvi bud
Dream on.

01 Jan 2018 11:32:24
If no one else wants them then why all the rumours and why the calls specifically by some teams. Obviously it's too late this time for the Sens to make a push so we will hear and see the trades coming. I just hope we don't give too much as we did before. If Karlsson goes first, the Sens will get way better. I believe the Sens play too much around Karlsson. I like the trades above but Ottawa adds Ceci going to CBJ. Many ifs in here but not bad.

03 Jan 2018 21:02:23
This ain't going to happen, and it would also be disappointing to see the Sens keep Ceci in a top pairing role.

13 Nov 2017 20:43:38
Vancouver make 4 trade... Loui erikson Olli joulvie Jonah gradovic 2 and maybe a 3...

Vegas Shea theadore ..Cody eakin..orjonathan marchessault

Van.. Sam gagner and.. derrick pouliot or Ben hutton next year 3 or 2

Cbj Ryan Murray

Van Dorset and alex biega

Chicago Connor Murphy

Van Dell zotto Erik guddy vanek take 60 percent of vanek and Erik guddy

Wsh Tom Wilson Lukas johnason

Svn bo Brock
Goldibin Cody eakin Jake virtaen
Sedin sedin grunland
Gaunce burnistrov Wilson

Theadore tanev
Elder stecher
Ryan Murray Murphy l

14 Nov 2017 02:57:46
You really must be high.

28 Oct 2017 01:27:05
wsh-hobbs
tml-leivo,marincin

28 Oct 2017 10:14:43
Who is hobbs?

28 Oct 2017 13:11:02
Haha damn right BigZ.

28 Oct 2017 13:44:52
hobbs, rhd.

22 Oct 2017 20:30:10
habs fire bergivin

Mon: Patches
Washington: bowey or vrana + 2nd

Mon: Chucky
Colorado: 2 second round picks

Mon: Gallagher
Ottawa: Perron + 2nd

Montreal: Shaw + Fucale
Vegas: 3rd + clarkson

Montreal: Price (retained 50%)
Van: Demko + virtanen + 1st + subban

Montreal: Petry
New york: Day + 3rd

Just an idea if montreal decided to go in the path of a rebuild, are ANY of these trades realistic?

22 Oct 2017 21:23:46
Then trade the rest of the their players to the Australian national team for a golf ball. Habs get shafted in all of these. Whether people like it or not, Pacioretty is Ann elite winger when looking at the stats. Worth when more than Bowey or Vrana plus a low second. Even though his value is low, Chucky is worth more than two seconds. The Shaw trade is so bad I won’t even comment. Price is the greatest goalie in the world, even though this season he’s started off rough. He’s the face of the franchise, he’s not being trade for mediocre prospects, Demko and a pick. I don’t know enough about day to judge the last trade.

22 Oct 2017 21:49:27
HAHAHAHAHA I really hope you're joking.

22 Oct 2017 21:50:44
None of these would ever happen unless you were a gm in this league.

22 Oct 2017 22:19:53
Why do you hate habs so much?

22 Oct 2017 23:44:37
%50 retained on Price?
Are you kidding? Has to be the most uneducated thing I've ever heard. Montreal would NEVER retain %50 of that contract for that long. Would be so stupid.

23 Oct 2017 05:50:35
This is really bad. You say rebuild. However, this a Blow it up with a Nuke. be the year 2075 by the time they ever recovered from that.

23 Oct 2017 14:48:42
Then whoever the new gm is gets fired as we'll lol.

23 Oct 2017 18:53:42
Chucky for second? WTF.

23 Oct 2017 20:49:03
Well Habs if you could read it says 2 2nds.
Which is about what majority of the teams in the league would value him at the moment.

24 Oct 2017 00:15:56
A Fourth liner is worth 2 seconds? Haha.

24 Oct 2017 05:50:18
Well he's probably not worth much more Haha.

21 Oct 2017 15:26:11
Just read that Washington is looking to trade for a good D man after Niskanens Injury and that they could dangle first round draft pick goalie Ilya Samsonov to do so.
The teams and players mentioned as a fit were Vancouver/ Tanev and Arizona/ Hjalmerson. Seems legit for good fits?

21 Oct 2017 15:58:23
Vancouver already have Demko.

21 Oct 2017 18:24:12
And it really depends what kind of D they want. Hjarlmason is a beast and does so many things well but offense is definitely not not of them. Niskanen has always been relied on for some offense and PP time.

21 Oct 2017 21:18:54
I mean Arizona gave up all these picks and players to get guys like Hjalmarsson and Stepan so probs no from them. And Canucks seem pretty high on Tanev.

21 Oct 2017 22:39:30
Ceci +? would love to have that future starter.

14 Oct 2017 02:54:26
To Washington
Green
2018 2nd

To Detroit
Eller (cap dump)
Bowey
2018 1st

14 Oct 2017 04:31:32
Woah! Way too much for Green.

27 Sep 2017 00:35:40
Random 3-Team Trade. Lmao.

Vegas Golden Knights Trade:
(D) Luca Sbisa
(D) Jon Merrill
2018 4th Round Pick

Colorado Avalanche Trades:
(F) Matt Duchene - 50% Retention

Washington Capitals Trade:
(F) Jakub Vrana
(D) Lucas Johansen
(D) Brooks Orpik
2019 1st Round Pick
2018 3rd Round Pick

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Vegas Golden Knights Acquire
(D) Brooks Orpik
2019 1st Round Pick (WAS)

Colorado Avalanche Acquire:
(F) Jakub Vrana
(D) Lucas Johansen
(D) Luca Sbisa
2018 3rd Round Pick (WAS)
2018 4th Round Pick (VGK)

Washington Capitals Acquire:
(F) Matt Duchene - 50% Retention
(D) Jon Merrill

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Why for Vegas?
They already have too many dmen. McPhee openly stated that he wants to get rid of them. Trading two of them who could be placed on waivers and claimed is smart. Merrill and Sbisa both likely won't see much playing time, and won't be contributors in the future. Combined, they'd bring in about the value of a 3rd + something. Kicking it up a notch, if Vegas was to take back a salary dump who is not on LTIR, they could acquire a solid prospect/ pick. Orpik is a for sure cap dump, and capitalizing on taking him in, Vegas also pools in a 1st. Vegas' won't be good for long, so Orpik's bloated cap won't affect them much. As well, Vegas does have the defence problem, however, Orpik can be waived without anyone wanting to claim him.

Why for Colorado?
If they keep Duchene any longer, his value is going to drop. Significantly. He'd play on a bad team, and his contract will keep running down in term, and he'll grow angrier and angrier. Trading him now would still haul a decent return. Jakub Vrana is a skilled forward who would be able to possibly play 2nd line minutes for the Avalanche this season. Possibly could be a 40-50 point guy. Johansen could use some time, but he was a former 1st Round Pick, and could be something. Sbisa could be shipped at the deadline for something like a 4th if salary is retained. Plus a 3rd and a 4th.

Why for Washington?
They lost A LOT this offseason. And don't have much cap space to make moves. Yet, they seem adamant about pushing for the post season. In order to, yet again, try and make it past the second round, they need depth. Rolling out a top six with Brett Connolly in it does not scream depth. Oshie/ Backstrom/ Duchene on line1 and Ovie/ Kuzy/ Burakovsky does scream depth (based on articles saying Backstrom/ Duchene have/ will be seperated. ) Obviously, this sets them back in the future, but Washingtons GM seems to want to win, and feels that his core still can do it. With this, they kill two birds with one stone - add firepower and dump cap. The 1st is value for dumping Orpik. Johansen, Vrana and the 3rd make up Merrill and Sbisa. Plus, by this, Washington technically increases cap space, as Duchene would be at 3 million and Merrill at 1, while Orpik was at 5.5.


IDK. First time posting a 3 team trade. Any thoughts/ advice?

27 Sep 2017 09:34:52
Washington wins this trade by a mile IMO. They dump Orpik and get Duchene 50% retained and don't give up a whole lot of quality.

27 Sep 2017 11:39:10
One of the very rare 3 team trades that actually is quite good. But not 50% retention, maybe 20. But overall i would say its solid and interesting.

27 Sep 2017 17:40:22
A lot of thought into it. I don't think it's terrible. Just don't feel it's near enough for avalanche. They're giving up the best player while retaining 50% on him for 2 years and they're getting a worse forward back to take some of Duchenes offence, a project D, a 3rd, a 4th and a guy you say they could flip for another 4th if they retain again on him? I just feel like the young D they get back has to be more than a project and they would need a 1st rounder. If a package like this would get sakic to budge on Duchene, he would already be a Hab or Bluejacket or Senator by now. When the reported ask from sens is white, chabot/ ceci, and a 1st I don't see caps pulling off Vrana, Johansen and 3 mid round picks. Difference between white and vrana and then chabot and johansen is a lot bigger than a 3rd and 4th rounder.

27 Sep 2017 18:29:46
WAIT. Colorado didn't take White/ Chabot/ 1st. Holey. Nothings pleasing Sakic then i guess lmao. that's way too much for Duchene imo.


For this, maybe change Johansen to Bowey, or add Bowey instead of the 3rd? Idk. lmao.

28 Sep 2017 05:21:15
I didn't say avalanche didn't accept white/ chabot/ 1st. I said that's reportedly what they were asking and the package you have from Washington falls short of that from every angle.

28 Sep 2017 12:25:38
Yeah, but which GM in their right mind would trade 3 solid young players/ pieces for a 40 point guy? I think Sakic would get two solid young players/ pieces or three good ones, like either Chabot and White or Bowey, Johansen and Vrana.

28 Sep 2017 21:49:51
40 point guy? You can downplay what he is to justify the offer if you want to lol but a guy that has 55, 67, 28 (injured for 25 games), 43 (in 47 games for short season) 70, 55 and 59 points in his first 7 seasons is not a 40 point guy. The fact that last year was miserable for both him and the team as a whole doesn't help his value but it does not erase a track record of being a very effective scorer since he was 18. 40 point guys to me are guys that hover between 35 and 45 for a career.

28 Sep 2017 22:00:40
That must mean you think mats sundin is a 55 point guy because he had 28 pts in 41 games his last season, regardless of the fact he scored between 72 and 115 for 15 or 16 years before that. Only as good as yesterday, right? Lol.

26 Sep 2017 18:59:59
WPG: Armia
WSH: Wilson

Both players drafted 16th Overall just one year apart. Washington gets another playmaking offensively talented RW that's very good defensively. Winnipeg adds some more grit that will help protect the young players. Maybe a small add from WPG

26 Sep 2017 19:18:23
Washingtons problem has never been lack of playmaking forwards. They need a mix of players (especially for playoff runs) and I think if they trade Wilson, they will miss what he brings a lot more than jets will miss what Armia brings.

27 Sep 2017 00:36:32
No from Washington. Agreed with pree much everything Jim said above. Tom Wilson is a fan favourite, he may never put up the numbers some thought he would when he was drafted but he's a cheap, solid bottem 6 winger who hits and fights, really the only capital who brings the physical game. He's still young and has an opportunity to play in the middle 6/ 3rd line more likely. I'd say he has quite a bit more value then Armia at this point.

02 Sep 2017 04:28:09
After the Thomas Vanek signing, Vancouver has way too many forwards. The biggest name brands (Daniel and Henrik Sedin) are free agents after this season, and are unlikely to return to the rebuilding club. So here is my trade offer (s) ;

Trade 1.

D. Sedin + H. Sedin to the New York Rangers in exchange for R. Nash + S. Day + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- New York needs a centre, and Henrik Sedin provides that.
- Daniel Sedin provides a deadly left side for New York (Himself, Kreider, Vesey, Buch)

- Vancouver is not going to get a first round pick for each Sedin, they're values have dipped.
- Rick Nash can be flipped for more assets if salary is retained; Sean Day is a wild card dman, who could possibly be really good, and the second is pretty good value.

Trade 2.

R. Nash (50% Salary Retention) to the Washington Capitals in exchange for a 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2020 3rd Round Pick.

With the retention (&the brand name buy), a 2nd and 3rd is a fairly reasonable return for Rick Nash.


- In full; Daniel and Henrik Sedin (with 3.6 million in retention) for Sean Day, two seconds and a third and a fourth. Decent. Maybe a bit much, but idk.

02 Sep 2017 09:28:48
Sedins aren't going anywhere, you can't retain 4/ 3 players from the sedins, Vancouver has the forwards to create a competition for the prospects to make them earn a spot on the roster.

02 Sep 2017 16:25:46
Sedin's are not getting traded. They have a bunch of forwards but I believe that they won't even be picked up on waivers. So to trade NHL caliber player and play fringe AHL players will not get fans in the arena. Vancouver need to sell tickets and the Sedin's do that. Magna does not.

02 Sep 2017 21:03:14
But right now, as it stands, Goldobin and Virtanen are on the outside looking in for top9 minutes. Somethings got to give. Both are NHL ready, especially Nikolai.

03 Sep 2017 07:14:37
Goldobin has a hard time staying healthy. As for Virtanen I think he makes the team and Boucher gets put on waivers. Don't know if Dorsett is healthy enough to play. He might start the season on IR. I really don't think Goldobin is a top 6 NHL player. I might be wrong, I'm just not sold on him yet.

14 Aug 2017 20:18:02
Toronto-JVR (25% retained),carrick,2018 1st, josh leivo.

Washington- John Carlson, 2018 4th.

14 Aug 2017 21:08:38
No from Capitals.

14 Aug 2017 22:30:03
NO FROM CAPITALS! heck no from toronto.

14 Aug 2017 22:59:01
Hell I from the Caps.

14 Aug 2017 23:18:58
No from the Leafs, Jeaz

a top line winger albeit with 1 year left, a #4 dman 23yr old with potential a 1st and leivo who could still become a good player. I think that's too much for Carlson.

16 Aug 2017 18:52:01
Well if Carrick is a 4, Carlson must be a franchise defencemen .

03 Jul 2017 02:17:26
Couple of notes.

Kruger to LV for free. Like the move from LV's perspective they get a decent 3rd liner (yes, he is overpaid) and also get a second (via TVR) .

Price gets his megadeal, 10.5 per/ 8 years. Love the deal for Montreal honestly. Without Price, this team drops like an anchor to the bottom of the sea. He's making the same money as Toews (imo, Price>>>Toews), and is only 0.5 million more expensive than Kopitar, a guy who had an awful year, and imo, doesn't deserve 10 million.

Marleau to the Leafs, 6 million per/ 3 years. Don't care about the dollar figure, until i factored in the term. I relatively couldn't care if Marleau was making 8 million / 2 years, I just wished it was 2 years. The reason for the worry over the term, Matthews and Marner. Both have two years left on their ELC's. that's why I don't understand Marleau for 3. Maybe he's making less than what JVR would have made? I don't know. But I liked the deal at first, but i do not like the term.

Kuznetsov for 7.6/ 8 years. His bird celly is goofy and all, but at the end of the day, the guy can play hockey. This deal is really good, especially considering last year was a down year for Kuzy. This basically allows the Caps to have a Russian dynamo take over once Ovie leaves. Raises a concern for the Preds however, how much is Ryan Johansen going to make? he's not going to take any less than Kuzy, and I could see him getting 8 million/ 8.

And finally, Johansson traded from the Caps to the Devs. For a second and a third. Idk how Ryan Reaves got a bigger haul than Johansson. But I think this is a terrible move by the Caps. You could have bought out Orpik, traded Niskanen, traded Eller, etc, etc. Johansson was a productive, cheap player, who just had 58 points. Steal for the Devs, Johansson will look great alongside Hall/ Hischier/ Palmieri/ Zacha/ McLeod. Hey. The Devils actually have a nice YOUNG group going into next year. Cool.

03 Jul 2017 08:39:07
how can you love the price deal?

it's crazy.
overpaid.
always injured.

03 Jul 2017 08:41:54
Agree that the devils did a good job bolstering their offense over the last 2 years, but the defense still looks quite bad.

03 Jul 2017 16:51:01
Agree with TB3 he'll be 38 when his contract ends and it screams Loulongo to me. Carey is currently a top 3 goalie in the NHL but he is very injury prone. He could very quickly start to Decline.

 
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