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29 Nov 2018 21:04:57
Tor: Nylander +2nd
Washington: Bowey+Vrana +eller (to balance salary? )

28 Nov 2018 20:27:49
Chicago: anisimov
Washington: 3rd round pick

Chicago: Seabrook (25% Retained)
ottawa: Wolanin or Gagne

Chicago: Crawford + 2020 2nd
Buffalo: Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen.

28 Nov 2018 20:54:26
Washington absolutely cannot afford the Anisimov trade without losing salary.

Ottawa re-building seems like a strange destination to send an aging and deteriorating Seabrook.


Buffalo already has 32 year old Hutton. They may be looking to replace him, but not with Crawford, who would make for very expensive backup, or 1b tandem.

28 Nov 2018 22:22:33
what would you suggest for alternate destinations for anisimov and seabrook then? and i think the buffalo deal is fair, maybe send back hutton for another piece as well?

28 Nov 2018 23:19:57
Think anisimov would be a good fit in Washington, but ya, they only projected have a few hundred thousand dollars at the deadline. Always thought Edmonton would be a good spot Seabrook. But that would probably mean probably 50% retention. he's worth more than 3.5mil now but not when he's 38-39-40, he's already lost a step so its going to be ugly in a few years, never mind 5-6 years.

29 Nov 2018 00:50:39
Hutton and Ullmark are a huge reason for Buffalo success right now. Not a chance they trade one right now.

29 Nov 2018 02:35:47
Seabrook is untradable unless it’s for Lucic.

29 Nov 2018 03:57:24
Anisimov to New Jersey Devils for 3rd round pick; salary Dump and devils have cap room.

29 Nov 2018 04:45:33
Forget the untradable Seabrook for now and consider Duncan Keith while there is a chance to move him.

28 Nov 2018 01:01:27
If Nylander re-signs

Leafs trade Kapanen
Washington trades Vrana.

28 Nov 2018 12:23:52
why would they trade kapanen just to get another forward?

28 Nov 2018 13:04:18
LW vs RW because RW is stronger, especially once Nylander returns. I wouldn’t do it, but I’m sure that’s his justification.

28 Nov 2018 17:26:40
@unbiasedjim

That’s exactly what I was getting at. Lol.

Kapanen is a wasted asset on third line, which he will be playing when Nylander comes back. We could try him LW, but if that doesn’t work well, we could consider trading him to shore up thy side. Vrana is an equally capable player. Brings Cup pedigree, which would be nice to have.

Why wouldn’t you make this trade? Value seems to be about equal?

14 Nov 2018 18:26:11
It was rumord the last few days LAK GM Rob Blake wanted to make a move. Pearson for Hagelin straight up. Decent for both sides?
Pearson $3.75 for this and two more seasons.
Hagelin $4M UFA after this season.
Pens retain $250K on Hagelin so teams caps don't change at all but they take on two more years of Pearson.

14 Nov 2018 18:43:03
Isnt Pearson quite a bit younger? And how old is Hagelin now? I think of anything Kings should look at going a lot younger.

14 Nov 2018 18:46:42
Lol. Jus read that it happened.

14 Nov 2018 21:15:58
Doesn’t seem like a good trade for the kings IMO. Maybe a little over payed but Pearson’s contract isn’t that big. He’s 4 years younger and scored 24 goals two seasons ago.

14 Nov 2018 21:17:30
I'd rather have pearson but neither guy is tearing it up or anything.

14 Nov 2018 21:42:11
I’d rather Pearson too, but that’s looking from the outside in. Pearson isn’t fast, neither is just about anyone on LA besides Kempe.

Watching the leafs play them twice in the last few weeks, they look so so slow. I know the leafs are a very quick team, but I don’t see the kings, as they’re constructed, outskating any team and that’s the way games are won now. It’s tough to make a splash when Doughty, Kopitar, and quick won’t be traded. Brown and Phaneuf probably can’t be traded. What do you do? Pearson and toffoli (I guess Muzzin/ Martinez too) are the only guys that are kinda core pieces that could be moved. They don’t gain or lose money and add a player that helps their glaring weakness, lack of speed.

14 Nov 2018 21:49:22
LA needs more speed and he’s the fastest player in the game. ( yes he is the fastest skater ever )

15 Nov 2018 03:30:12
Ever Heard of McDavid Larkin Barzal and Mackinnon.

15 Nov 2018 12:31:18
Hey KFC, VBB is just over exaggerating trolling there looking to start arguments, it happened a lot here.

15 Nov 2018 12:45:09
He’s litterly the fastest skater ever look it up he just never shown it at a all star game.

15 Nov 2018 12:50:55
No actually I’m not exaggerating Haglin is the fastest skater in the NHL his time he took in Sweden ( no running start ) beat Larkin with a running start and McDavid he’s substantially faster then McDavid without the puck. With that being said he can’t play the game at that top speed.

15 Nov 2018 15:08:09
Hagelin is super fast but I don’t even think he’s top 5 fast in the league anymore.

15 Nov 2018 17:15:50
When Hagelin was deemed the fastest top speed skater in the NhL, he beat Grabner, hall and all the fast guys. But that was in 2014. Something happened in June of 2015 that changed that lol mcdavid was drafted. I don’t know exactly all the speeds, but Larkin, mcdavid, Hagelin, Grabner (slowing down a bit) and a few younger guys like kapanen, Miles Wood and others are all super fast. Regardless Hagelin is a hell of a lot faster than Pearson and just about everyone on the kings roster so it’s obvious what the plan was.

15 Nov 2018 19:01:51
Well the reality is Haglin holds the record for fastest skater ever. McDavid may be more explosive but he’s not faster.

15 Nov 2018 21:29:59
Thanks Nhl discussion.

14 Nov 2018 04:37:18
So, interesting proposal I read elsewhere that I wanted to bring to attention here and see what the thoughts were.

Last year, Washington traded Orpik and Grubauer to Colorado, who immediately bought Orpik out, who then re-signed with Washington for less money. Can the Leafs do a similar trade involving Marleau?

2019 off season (after July 1 bonus is paid)

Colorado trades 2nd
Leafs trade Marleau, Bracco

Colorado immediately buys out Marleau and he re-signs with the Leafs for $2M.

Leafs save $4.25M in cap hit, thereby avoiding cash crunch.

Marleau makes more money, because he gets the money from the buyout, plus whatever he gets when he re-signs.

Colorado has more than enough cap space to absorb the full $6.25M cap hit Marleau will be carrying (35+ contract), and would only be on the hook for $4M in salary total payable. In return they get Bracco, or whatever other pick/ prospect you think they deserve for doing the Leafs this $4M favour (Orpik was a $3M favour to Washington in exchange for Grubauer) .

Remember, it smells suspiciously like cap circumvention, except Colorado has already done this before with Orpik.

Thoughts?

14 Nov 2018 05:21:11
Well. . I think they deserve a lot more than Bracco for doing the Leafs a favor. it's this kind of thing, and whatever it is Arizona does with Datsyuk ect. that I hope the next CBA gets rid of. Some sort of way to make teams not cheat the system.

14 Nov 2018 05:27:36
Why would any team do this to just take Bracco?

14 Nov 2018 06:05:36
The difference is in the Washington trade colorodo actually got something in return lol.

14 Nov 2018 12:33:41
Lol what the heck is this nonsense? 😂 Maybe change the 2nd to a 1994 Toyota Corolla.

14 Nov 2018 12:39:37
Ya Bracco isn’t worth the second alone, they aren’t giving a second for Bracco and to do the leafs a favour. Gives them 2 years of extra cap and puts them at max buyouts if I’m not mistaken giving them less flexibility there, while not getting anything in return. Think Kapanen with a 3rd going back.

14 Nov 2018 13:16:36
Marleau signed in Toronto because of that 3 year contract. Toronto offered the 3rd year to get the guy they wanted. Very well knowing that third year was the first year of Marner and Mathews first years of their big deals.
Colorado says thanks but no thanks, that's not even close to enough to make them consider. At least with Orpik comparison they recieved Grabaur who some said was the best backup and could challenge for more starts in net which was a big want for Colorado, someone to challenge Varly.

14 Nov 2018 14:07:14
1st of all it would Definitely would take more to get avs to do that. Secondly, Colorado has the best line in hockey but lacks depth. I think in the next year or two they will be active and use their cap space to build a roster to compete around Mack and Rantanen, not use it as cap relief for another team. Also remember that Colorado offered Dubas the job of running their whole hockey operations of the team last year and to be Sakics boss before the leafs pulled back permission to talk and promoted him. I don’t assume they want to do us any favours.

14 Nov 2018 14:27:05
Sheesh. Guys. It clearly says that instead of Bracco, Colorado can have someone else who is worth the 2nd and $4M bucks. Hell, they can have Johnsson if they want. He’s not doing a whole lot right now. The emphasis here should be on the concept, not the prospect player.

@unbiasedjim

We poached Tavares from Lou and he still took Martin off our hands. It’s a big business. I don’t think Sakic would hold it against Dubas that he got promoted.

14 Nov 2018 14:49:11
Didn't they just speak to dubas about posdibly becoming the Gm? Idk but that's all I heard.

14 Nov 2018 15:24:48
“Dubas is not going to Colorado, but here is my understanding: The contact being made was from Colorado ownership. The contact with the Leafs and Dubas was in hopes of getting Dubas to come in and run the entire hockey operation of the Colorado Avalanche. What that means for everybody else there, and what the timing on all that is, I’m not sure. But we do know now that Dubas isn’t going to Colorado; at least not now. ”

That’s from the article at that time when leafs pulled back permission quoting Bob McKenzie. I know some people have an isssue with TSN, but I have a lot of faith in what Bob McKenzie says he knows. He’s pretty careful of what he reports and what he doesn’t.

14 Nov 2018 16:16:30
Yeah I agree bob mckenzie is still one of the best. So did he mean they wanted him to be director of hockey operations? like what was the job title?

14 Nov 2018 17:49:32
Don’t think he ever said an exact job title, but I remember at the time they had talked about that his duties could include deciding if sakic stayed or left. So I would assume some sort of president or whatever, I don’t know.

14 Nov 2018 17:54:06
Like shanny runs the entire hockey operations for us and he’s president. Different organizations and different owners call it different things, but It was compared, power and say wise, to that. Once shanahan realized what they were talking to dubas about, they pulled his permission to talk and neither shanny or dubas would say if a promise was made that day, but we all know Lou was replaced by dubas a year later.

14 Nov 2018 18:07:31
Possibly I guess but I'd have to question the avs thought process on that one. I mean I just don't think they even consider bringing in anyone who would consider moving out joe sakic or even allow them to have that power. the guy has pretty much done nothing only real good things for the organization for most of his life. And not meaning to be a knock against dubas but compared to sakic especially up to that point what has he done to be considered higher up then joe? Now I could have seen the initial report of the avs looking at him for the Gm position happening and then promoting sakic.

14 Nov 2018 21:54:26
Yeah, I don’t know the thought process but it was apparently done directly by the owner and sakic denied it was happening. Later it came out that sakic wasn’t lying when he denied they were talking to dubas, he really was unaware.

Dubas is known as a big analytics guy, my only guess is the owner got it in his head that he wanted his whole organization run like that like they did in Florida when they canned Tallon and immediately regretted it. I’m a hybrid thinker when it comes to that, I think there’s real value in analytics, but also a real hockey guy like Lou, tallon, shanahan or sakic is important.

So maybe that was his plan? Not sure, I just know we (leaf fans) were following the story at the time because most of us assumed dubas would be GM here eventually.

12 Oct 2018 05:55:14
Leafs trade Nylander, Kadri

Washington trades Niskanen, Eller, Vrana, Burakovsky

Marleau/ Matthews/ Kapanen
Vrana/ Tavares/ Marner
Burakovsky/ Eller/ Hyman
Johnsson/ Lindholm/ Brown
*Ennis, Jooris

Rielly/ Niskanen
Gardiner/ Zaitsev
Dermott/ Hainsey
*Ozhiganov
(Sandin/ Liljegren)
(Rasanen)

Why Washington makes this trade:

Nylander and Kadri add to an already potent Washington offense. I mean, do I really got to say more?

Why Leafs make this trade:

First off, because we acquire Niskanen. A true 1RHD, he still has three years left on his contract at just under $6M, and is an excellent choice to hold that top line until Liljegren is ready.

The rest of the guys really strengthen up that LW, which I feel is weak compared to RW, and give us a lot better depth. We improve overall as a team.

12 Oct 2018 10:51:44
Is Niskanen a true 1 RHD? I wouldn't think so.

12 Oct 2018 11:39:06
Niskanens good, but not some i'd trade Nylander for. i'd be looking at a Pesce, a Manson, possibly Ekholm, whether LD/ RD, and if we had to add to Nylander, so be it. Then to upgrade our wing, trade Gardiner, not Naz for that. Gardiner coukd bring in some wing prospects as so desired, considering that hell most likely walk at the end of this year.

12 Oct 2018 14:43:51
@dnocherry

I like Niskanen better than Carlsson.

@topshelfslappers

Virtually every proposal I’ve floated in last six months has had Gardiner in it. Just keeping it fresh. We need to look at other possibilities.

12 Oct 2018 14:51:43
I’ve traded Gardiner for virtually everyone I can possibly think about trading him for. Twice. And Nylander is right behind him. These trades don’t have to take place this year. All I’m doing is pointing out where the bottlenecks are in our cap situation and suggesting ways to alleviate that before we run into a bigger cash crunch. Kadri and Reilly both have more value if we trade them before their contract year when they still have some term left for the receiving team. We get a larger return that way.

08 Oct 2018 00:15:19
Not my normal route, but here we go:

New York Trades: Kevin Hayes (C/ LW - 50% Retention - 3.00 Million x 1 Year)
Toronto Trades: Josh Leivo (LW - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) + Trevor Moore (RW - 0.925 Million x 1 Years) + 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

- Hayes is a pending UFA. Considering what they got for guys like Grabner, and the transaction records for guys like Patrick Maroon (similar caliber to Hayes), this seems about right. Hayes is a solid, big guy who would add some much needed size to this Toronto lineup, replacing a small Tyler Ennis. New York gets back a replacement in Leivo who is a step-down for sure, but also acquire a 2nd and one of the Leafs better prospects in Trevor Moore (Low-Risk, Medium Reward Player, almost destined to become a 3rd liner, with not much potential beyond that) . I debated between Moore and Grundstrom but Grundstrom has a higher ceiling, and is too much of an add-in for a UFA.

Toronto Trades: Jake Gardiner (LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year) + Eamon McAdam (G - 0.925 Million x 1 Year) + Frederik Gauthier (C - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Washington Trades: Madison Bowey (RD - 1.00 Million x 2 Years) + Connor Hobbs (RD - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) .

- Washington upgrades their defence in a major way for the time-being. Running Carlson/ Kempny, Orlov/ Niskanen, Gardiner/ Djoos would bea very solid dcore imo. Gauthier and McAdam are roster bodies, nothing more. Toronto downgrades their defence in general for this season, but acquires TWO RHD, which are good commodities. Bowey can step in as a physical presence this season, and get more minutes than in Washington (Stuck behind Carlson, Orlov, etc. ) Hobbs goes to a stacked Marlies team and can develop alongside Liljegren as RHD.

Toronto Trades: Martin Marincin (LD - 0.80 Million x 1 Year) + Andrew Nielsen (RD - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Ottawa Trades: Magnus Paajarvi (LW - 0.85 Million x 1 Year)

- Ottawa could use more defense, Toronto could use a veteran 14th forward. Nielsen and Marincin don’t have futures in Toronto, Paajarvi doesn’t have one in Ottawa. Simple trade.

William Nylander resigns, hopefully for a reasonable estimate of appx. 6.55 x 8 Years [52.5 Million Total]

Lineup:
Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Kevin Hayes - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Zach Hyman - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Andreas Johnsson - Par Lindholm - Kasperi Kapanen
*Tyler Ennis, Magnus Paajarvi

Morgan Rielly - Madison Bowey
Travis Dermott - Nikita Zaitsev
Ron Hainsey - Igor Ozhiganov
*Justin Holl

Frederik Andersen
Garrett Sparks

Maybe not a better team atm. But a bigger, more physical team. Forward depth has zero holes now (Ennis may have been one before), and defense is younger, cost-controlled and has tons of cheap RHD upcoming (Bowey, Liljegren, Hobbs, etc. )

08 Oct 2018 05:05:08
I like Kevin Hayes. A lot. Big kid that can bang in the pick and put up solid numbers. He would look good beside any of our theee centres. Not sure NYR make this deal, but if they would, Leafs would be foolish not to jump on it. We could even afford Hayes at his full salary this year. No need for NYR to retain. That may be a further incentive for them to move him.

Any trade that involves trading out Gardiner is a good trade in my eyes. Not sure Dubas feels the same way. If it makes the team weaker in any way, you can be sure he won’t do it. Even though I agree we should be dumping Giveaway for picks/ prospects rather than lose him for nothing.

Paajarvi is a monster. A real bust, he probably wouldn’t have much of a future in Toronto either. But he’s huge. And in my mind, bigger is better.

Well done TopShelfSlappers. I like your lineups. The forward group is especially solid. Defense as you said looks a little weaker, but trading Gardiner is addition through subtraction. And the guys you suggest all have talent and can make us better long term. A one step back, two step forward move.

08 Oct 2018 05:23:03
Not sure Washington would be up for trading young Bowey. Just my thought tho.

08 Oct 2018 15:30:51
Ty @LG, I do prefer this, especially as Hayes does provide some size to a small team.


@yupp

I felt the same way, but Washington would want to upgrade to keep their cup. Gardiner is a step up on Bowey for sure, and would allow them to cycle three d units. Gardiner is worth at least a first imo, and Bowey is basically that. Plus, Bowey will be stuck behind Carlson/ Kempny/ Orlov/ Niskanen for at least the next two years, and Djoos is also there, as is Johansen, both solid d prospects.

08 Oct 2018 18:28:36
Sore Gardiner is an upgrade right now for this season but age and contract I wouldn't make this trade if I was Washington myself. Gardiner older and a UFA at seasons end with rumors of maybe wanting upwards to $7M per year long term on the next deal. I get what you're saying for this year, go for the cup again, And I think I'm now on the fence with all things considered. Leafs are the ones who need to upgrade D not downgrade. Can't win every game 7-6.

24 Aug 2018 00:56:35
wsh-hobbs,2nd(2019)
tml-sparkes,leivo

24 Aug 2018 18:33:36
Caps are fine for goalies and Leivo doesn't get Hobbs or a 2nd imo. Holtby, Copley, Samsonov is a nice top 3 for goalie depth.

24 Aug 2018 20:38:44
Samsonov is a good prospect for sure, but if I were running the caps, he would be playing a lot, whether in the AHL or Europe (not sure of his contract situation) . Backing up Holtby who is going to play 60+ games isn’t ideal for a young guy with that potential and Copely rocked almost a 3.00GAA and under a .900 save% in 41 AHL games last season. Doesn’t exactly scream confidence for 18-22 games this season with holtby on the bench (More if he gets hurt) . A back up needs to go .500 on a good team, I would t bet on that with him. Not sure if this is the right deal for them but saying their goalie depth is good for this upcoming season isn’t exactly true. Losing Grubrauer really hurt.

24 Aug 2018 20:52:44
I don’t know value wise of Hobbs really but I think Leafs are a good place to shop for a back up goalie. Mchillinney was good last season and is a proven veteran, I think Pickard is a capable backup and an upgrade on a few back ups and Sparks although not getting a chance to prove it in the NhL, he’s 52-18-1 in the AHL over the past 2 seasons with a combined 1.88GAA .929sv% and then went 14-5 with a .915% and a 2.22 gaa to win the Calder Cup. That’s as good of resume as you’re going to find on a guy that hasn’t got to prove it in the NHL. He’s not a guarantee at all, but he has value to teams looking for depth at that position.

24 Aug 2018 20:54:50
Yeah but Caps don’t need an unproven back up for next season like Sparks. Samsonov will play lots wether it’s in the KHL or AHL and when he’s ready Holtby will be backing him up/ traded just like Fluery and Bishop. They can sign a veteran free agent goalie if they need.

25 Aug 2018 04:59:59
Would Howard @50% retained from Wings be of interest to Caps? Looking for at least a 3rd, maybe becomes 2nd if re-signs or Caps make conference finals

Also if they no longer want Copley, we can take him to play back up and help us get Jack Hughes (I can dream haha)

Another option could be Lehtonen, would be a decent back up.

11 Jul 2018 21:20:26
Washington: Tom Wilson/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

Columbus: Antrimi Paniran

* Capitals have over 8 million in cap space with only Wilson to sign

Washington- gets the best player in the deal and one of the most skilled players in the nhl. Would be ridiculous on the 2nd line. Could finally break out and become Washington's highest producing player.

Columbus: Wilson is one of the best in the NHL at what he does ( torts would love him ) and Bura is a young player on the uprise. They also get 2 1st round picks.

Top 9 for caps-
Ovie-Backstrom-Vrana
Paniran-Kuz-Oshie
Bura-Eller-Smith Pelly

12 Jul 2018 05:18:08
1) the value of wilson and burakovsky are way different
2) if you want to suggest a trade you should be able to spell the guy's name. Panarin*.

12 Jul 2018 13:06:19
Good work, vb. Is this offer for an extended Paniran or not?

12 Jul 2018 13:35:36
No it’s not for an extended Paniran but if he were willing to take a discount around 7 mil the caps could resign him.

12 Jul 2018 13:42:41
PKane88- maybe provide some imput on the actual trade instead of stating the obvious? I sware I went on cap geek to Copy his name but I totally forgot lol. Anyway what’s your imput on the value.

12 Jul 2018 15:43:04
I think the jackets could do better even without an extension in place for panarin. I also think he will get paid at least 9 mil or more.

13 Jul 2018 03:50:12
You butchered his name lol

13 Jul 2018 13:03:59
Way too much for wsh to give up wilson and a first is plenty.

13 Jul 2018 13:38:21
VB- I said that burakovsky and wilson value is way different, if it is wilson i'd say fair deal, if burakovsky i'd say huge overpayment by washington.

03 Jul 2018 19:56:18
Ottawa is a tough spot they can either trade Karlsson for an underwhelming return or lose him as an FA.

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan

Vegas: Colin Miller and 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Vegas: Shea Theodore, Alex Tuch and 2nd 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Colorado: Zandonov/Timmins and Ottawa's 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Tampa: Tyler Johnson, Taylor Raddish, Slatter Koekkoek And 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Washington:Matt Niskanen, Jakub Varna/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

If he is traded he'll return a similar package to these.

03 Jul 2018 20:27:42
Eric karlson was never top of my fav players list but I've noticed over the last 3 years he's really improved his play in the defensive zone along with being the top offensive defenseman in the league. I'm not going to be one of these guys who say he's one of the top 3 players in the league but when he's healthy he is for sure top 10. So essentially what I'm saying is if this is all it takes to get him and montreal doesn't at least try then I would be super ticked off.

03 Jul 2018 21:02:11
I highly doubt he’d resign with a non competitive team + do they really wanna pay him 11-13 million. @habby.

03 Jul 2018 21:15:08
I'm sure other places would be more attractive to him ATM but not all the teams that look like contenders on paper can afford him. and maybe he'd like to stay close to where he's been his whole career and that means toronto or montreal really. And the habs can afford to take on his and Ryan's cap and yes resign him too.

03 Jul 2018 21:16:36
We don't really know where his preferred destinations are yet but I wouldn't bet on it being montreal or toronto just the same.

03 Jul 2018 21:45:41
vegas fan right here.

03 Jul 2018 22:14:52
Colorado AND vegas fan =)

03 Jul 2018 22:30:04
Actually I’m a leafs fan and even if that were true ( leafs don’t even have the cap ) the sens would not trade their best player in franchise history to two of their biggest rivals you guys can disagree all you want but once Ottawa let’s Karlsson walk or gets an underwhelming return I’ll be the 1st to tell you guys I told you so just like I told Rambo about Hoffman.

03 Jul 2018 23:57:54
Toronto has better young guys than Montreal does. I don't think it would be wise to trade to either. I believe he will be traded to the West. If Karlsson goes to Toronto, the Leafs will be in playoffs for long time especially with Tavares probably a cup or 2. Dorion needs to find either a good top 2 Centre, goalie and between prospect or top 4 D-Man.

04 Jul 2018 02:30:04
I'm not disagreeing with you when you say he won't get as much as Rambo thinks he will I just don't see either of these deals being enough at this time.

04 Jul 2018 02:30:25
Some are probably close though.

04 Jul 2018 13:54:01
Just such random and so many values that are so different, hard to tell what you think Karlsson value is, colin Miller and a first? Obviously no from sens. The second trade with a first instead of a 2nd looks a lot better. The teams rumored to get him are contenders other than NYi, so a 2nd would be 50-60 pick and that's not enough.

24 Jun 2018 20:36:50
Edmonton Oilers:

- (D) Colby Williams

Washington Capitals:

- (G) Al Montoya

==

A minor trade.
Washington Capitals need a backup and Montoya is a cheap one.

Ryan Mantha's career looks to be over due to an injury. Colby Williams looked fine over the past two AHL seasons and could fill that hole on the Barons' roster.

More on Colby Williams:
He was selected with the 6th round pick in 2015 as an over-ager. He's spent the last two seasons in the AHL with the Hershey Bears. He is a tough defender, lacks a little size.

24 Jun 2018 20:47:17
Sounds good to me Montoya can frig off.

16 Jun 2018 18:57:52
WPG: Perrault
MON: 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH), 2nd Round Pick 2018 (TOR)

16 Jun 2018 20:59:00
I like Perrault but I think if habs trade for a center its gunna be a top 6 center.
Rather keep those picks and sweeten up Montreal’s weak prospect pool.

16 Jun 2018 21:20:10
Perreault would return more than that and I don't think the Jets want to move him.

16 Jun 2018 23:43:55
That would be a great offer for Perreault but I believe that Chevy would try to bundle him in a package that may include Myers, Petan, Kulikov Mason and Copp to get a better return. The Jets have 4 or 5 players ready to step up to the big team so they can afford to make 4 for 1/ 2 players, draft choices or prospects.

17 Jun 2018 05:12:59
I want a deal that includes Kulikov.

17 Jun 2018 08:05:15
The Jets could get more for Perreault.

17 Jun 2018 15:28:47
After this last trade by Montreal, If they want Perrault I bet they offer Pacioretty.

17 Jun 2018 15:29:04
Why would you want kulikov lol?

15 Jun 2018 10:50:16
2 trades for the Isles

1) Philipp Grubauer and Brooks Orpik for 2018 CGY 2nd (43rd OA)

NYI get a 1B goalie to challenge his conutryman Greiss for the starter's job. This competition should be useful. Orpik is a cap dumb. He lessens the value of Grubauer. Washington gets the cap space to re-sign Carlson and others, Isles solve their goalie issues relatively cheap.

2) Brooks Orpik (50% retained by NYI) for Matt Martin

The Leafs get rid of two years of Martin's contract in exchange for one year of Polak's replacement as the tough guy. This helps the Leafs cap-wise in the near future. The Isles re-unite the fourth line of Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck.

15 Jun 2018 21:12:18
I’m sure there’s other teams that will offer more than Calgary will for Grubauer. I don’t think they need him bad enough to make the trade. Also they wouldn’t want to retain on Orpik and take Martins contract. Doesn’t make any sense for them.

11 Jun 2018 11:32:35
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

11 Jun 2018 17:45:14
Wtf great deal for caps.

11 Jun 2018 11:26:08
Washington will be hard pressed to re-sign key members of their Cup winning team and are obviously in win-now mode. Philadelphia, providing that they don't make any big moves in free agency, have cap space for 2018-2019 only. With Morin out until February, a veteran presence on an expiring contract is ideal.

Washington: Vecchione ($900k RFA in 2019)
Philadelphia: Orpik ($5.5MM until 2019)(cap dump), Lucas Johansen (1/28 in 2016), 2018 3rd

This allows Washington to re-sign Carlson (and Kempny etc) without costing them a roster player. Philadelphia takes Orpik for one year, gets a good defensive prospect, and replenishes its 2018 3rd (Mrazek trade).

08 Jun 2018 09:23:04
Sign and Trade
Grubauer for Ho-Sang + 2nd

NYI get their starting goalie

WSH gets someone who I think would fit great on 1st line with Ovi and Kuznetsov.

08 Jun 2018 13:00:37
I'd like to think grubaur could fetch more, ho-sang is so iffy to me.

04 Jun 2018 01:00:18
WPG: Perrault, 5th Round Pick 2018
MON: 2nd Round Pick 2018, 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH)

Then

WPG: 2nd Round Pick 2018, 2nd Round Pick 2018 (MON), 2nd Round Pick 2018 (WSH)
DET: 6th Overall Pick 2018

04 Jun 2018 03:02:23
Are you really offering 3 secound for a sixt overall.

04 Jun 2018 03:30:59
That might be able to get the 25th pick from Toronto. That’d not even close for the 6th overall. Would you trade Ehlers for 3 2nds?

04 Jun 2018 04:09:01
hell no from montreal and hwll no from Washington.

04 Jun 2018 04:09:28
hell no from Detroit my bad not Washington.

04 Jun 2018 16:31:10
3 second round picks would not get the 6th over all selection. The Jets would have to throw in Myers or Little and a prospect and even then it would probably be a no. Only Trouba would make Detroit trade that pick and the Jets would want more on top of the #6.

22 May 2018 20:43:57
TOR: 2018 2nd, Calle Rosen, Josh Leivo
WAS: Brooks Orpik, Matt Niskanen

Doesn't seem like much coming from Toronto but we would be eating cap for them inorder for them to resign Carlson.

Brooks Orpik is obviously a cap dump with a year left at 5.5M. Niskanen has 3 years left at 5.75M and would be a good partner for Rielly in my opinion.

22 May 2018 21:27:25
If Niskanen continues to decline in play, the Leafs will have over 10 million dollars committed to him and Zaitsev for minimum 3 years, all while having to work out the new contracts for the big 3, plus Kapanen and Johnsson coming up for renewals as well. Not very well thought out, Leafs with the hard no.

22 May 2018 21:50:40
So tell how you plan on paying Matthews/ Marner/ Nylander?

22 May 2018 23:37:52
No from leafs, why not just target an actually good dman who is better suited for them instead of taking cap dumps.

23 May 2018 03:35:41
The Leafs window to take cap dumps is about over. They have some great pieces to build around. They should start focusing on plugging holes with complementary talent, not cast-offs.

23 May 2018 03:41:42
A good d man is going to cost us an arm and a leg. Leafs can afford to take a cap dump next year.

23 May 2018 12:52:53
Ya but why get to cap dumps and give a second to get them. Unless Niskanen is worth his money which is probably not true since he is ok but for 5.5 million its too much.

23 May 2018 16:15:30
Leafs have assets to get a good Dman and are not in a position anymore to take other teams bad money. If we’re trading a decent pick and 2 young players, plus taking a cap dump i'd want someone better than niskanen or atleast someone as good as niskanen but on a very team friendly contract, not 5.75x3. That would be us paying all that to have niskanen as our highest paid Dman and second highest paid player overall behind marleau this season (depending on Nylander of course) . Bad plan.

19 May 2018 17:10:29
wsh-hobbs
tml-leivo

18 May 2018 04:02:53
Washington
Ovechkin

Edmonton
Drai, 10 OA Pick, Kleffbom

What do you think?

18 May 2018 04:27:26
Looool no from edmonton big time

18 May 2018 08:55:11
No from Oilers .

18 May 2018 10:57:30
Lol no from oilers? No let’s not take the leading scorer of the decade coming of of a 49 goal art Ross season for a 4th/ 3rd dman and Ty Smith ( a potential top 4 d )

18 May 2018 11:21:09
@vb
I think you’re forgetting Drais.


But to be honest, as much as it may be a lot of youth going out from Edmonton, this is pretty interesting. Washington would never do this, even if the value is lopsided in their favour, there would be riots over trading Ovie after he got em past the third round. and Washington doesn't really need Drais with Kuzy and Backstrom down the middle. As for Edmonton, that's a ton to give up, and that's why i'd probably say no from them too, however, can you imagine McDavid - Ovechkin for the better part of the next ten years? Ovie would easily be a 60 goal man year after year, cause McDavid is well better than Backstrom. Idk. If Ovie lost in the second round again, this would be intriguing. But i just think its a bit too much from Edmonton, and a trade Washington just shouldn't make.

18 May 2018 12:44:48
I think drais looses a lot of value Becuase of his high price contract, good player but.

18 May 2018 16:51:25
Yes VB, Ovie is the best goal scorer of a decade, and I love the guy and the way he plays. Problem is, he’s not going to lead the way for another decade. Draisatl at 22 or whatever, klefbom in his mid 20s and whatever 18 year old they get with the 10th overall can contribute for the next decade+.

19 May 2018 03:20:11
Didn’t see Drais in the trade.

 
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