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02 Sep 2017 04:28:09
After the Thomas Vanek signing, Vancouver has way too many forwards. The biggest name brands (Daniel and Henrik Sedin) are free agents after this season, and are unlikely to return to the rebuilding club. So here is my trade offer (s) ;

Trade 1.

D. Sedin + H. Sedin to the New York Rangers in exchange for R. Nash + S. Day + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- New York needs a centre, and Henrik Sedin provides that.
- Daniel Sedin provides a deadly left side for New York (Himself, Kreider, Vesey, Buch)

- Vancouver is not going to get a first round pick for each Sedin, they're values have dipped.
- Rick Nash can be flipped for more assets if salary is retained; Sean Day is a wild card dman, who could possibly be really good, and the second is pretty good value.

Trade 2.

R. Nash (50% Salary Retention) to the Washington Capitals in exchange for a 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2020 3rd Round Pick.

With the retention (&the brand name buy), a 2nd and 3rd is a fairly reasonable return for Rick Nash.


- In full; Daniel and Henrik Sedin (with 3.6 million in retention) for Sean Day, two seconds and a third and a fourth. Decent. Maybe a bit much, but idk.

02 Sep 2017 09:28:48
Sedins aren't going anywhere, you can't retain 4/ 3 players from the sedins, Vancouver has the forwards to create a competition for the prospects to make them earn a spot on the roster.

02 Sep 2017 16:25:46
Sedin's are not getting traded. They have a bunch of forwards but I believe that they won't even be picked up on waivers. So to trade NHL caliber player and play fringe AHL players will not get fans in the arena. Vancouver need to sell tickets and the Sedin's do that. Magna does not.

02 Sep 2017 21:03:14
But right now, as it stands, Goldobin and Virtanen are on the outside looking in for top9 minutes. Somethings got to give. Both are NHL ready, especially Nikolai.

03 Sep 2017 07:14:37
Goldobin has a hard time staying healthy. As for Virtanen I think he makes the team and Boucher gets put on waivers. Don't know if Dorsett is healthy enough to play. He might start the season on IR. I really don't think Goldobin is a top 6 NHL player. I might be wrong, I'm just not sold on him yet.

14 Aug 2017 20:18:02
Toronto-JVR (25% retained),carrick,2018 1st, josh leivo.

Washington- John Carlson, 2018 4th.

14 Aug 2017 21:08:38
No from Capitals.

14 Aug 2017 22:30:03
NO FROM CAPITALS! heck no from toronto.

14 Aug 2017 22:59:01
Hell I from the Caps.

14 Aug 2017 23:18:58
No from the Leafs, Jeaz

a top line winger albeit with 1 year left, a #4 dman 23yr old with potential a 1st and leivo who could still become a good player. I think that's too much for Carlson.

16 Aug 2017 18:52:01
Well if Carrick is a 4, Carlson must be a franchise defencemen .

03 Jul 2017 02:17:26
Couple of notes.

Kruger to LV for free. Like the move from LV's perspective they get a decent 3rd liner (yes, he is overpaid) and also get a second (via TVR) .

Price gets his megadeal, 10.5 per/ 8 years. Love the deal for Montreal honestly. Without Price, this team drops like an anchor to the bottom of the sea. He's making the same money as Toews (imo, Price>>>Toews), and is only 0.5 million more expensive than Kopitar, a guy who had an awful year, and imo, doesn't deserve 10 million.

Marleau to the Leafs, 6 million per/ 3 years. Don't care about the dollar figure, until i factored in the term. I relatively couldn't care if Marleau was making 8 million / 2 years, I just wished it was 2 years. The reason for the worry over the term, Matthews and Marner. Both have two years left on their ELC's. that's why I don't understand Marleau for 3. Maybe he's making less than what JVR would have made? I don't know. But I liked the deal at first, but i do not like the term.

Kuznetsov for 7.6/ 8 years. His bird celly is goofy and all, but at the end of the day, the guy can play hockey. This deal is really good, especially considering last year was a down year for Kuzy. This basically allows the Caps to have a Russian dynamo take over once Ovie leaves. Raises a concern for the Preds however, how much is Ryan Johansen going to make? he's not going to take any less than Kuzy, and I could see him getting 8 million/ 8.

And finally, Johansson traded from the Caps to the Devs. For a second and a third. Idk how Ryan Reaves got a bigger haul than Johansson. But I think this is a terrible move by the Caps. You could have bought out Orpik, traded Niskanen, traded Eller, etc, etc. Johansson was a productive, cheap player, who just had 58 points. Steal for the Devs, Johansson will look great alongside Hall/ Hischier/ Palmieri/ Zacha/ McLeod. Hey. The Devils actually have a nice YOUNG group going into next year. Cool.

03 Jul 2017 08:39:07
how can you love the price deal?

it's crazy.
overpaid.
always injured.

03 Jul 2017 08:41:54
Agree that the devils did a good job bolstering their offense over the last 2 years, but the defense still looks quite bad.

03 Jul 2017 16:51:01
Agree with TB3 he'll be 38 when his contract ends and it screams Loulongo to me. Carey is currently a top 3 goalie in the NHL but he is very injury prone. He could very quickly start to Decline.

29 Jun 2017 18:09:36
Curious on what Philipp Grubauer's trade value is since the goalie market is so cheap right now.

Van: conditional 2nd 2019, 5th 2018
Wsh: Grubauer

Not sure what some realistic performance conditions are.
45 games or else it's a 3rd?

Could also see him as a good fit in Philly as a 1a/1b combo with neuvirth

thoughts?

29 Jun 2017 20:34:59
No, Keep draft picks. Rather sign a Kuemper, Kinkaid or a Berube rather than giving up a second round pick for a back up.

09 Jun 2017 19:48:07
Min:Suter and Nino

Wsh: Ovie and 1st 2017

Is this fair? Is Suter=Ovie a bold statement?

09 Jun 2017 22:33:02
Um ya that's a pretty bold statement.

09 Jun 2017 23:22:35
lol even if u say ovie=suter nino>>1st.

10 Jun 2017 02:27:22
What did I just read
Suter=Ovie? No. Just no.

10 Jun 2017 02:35:45
McJesus Suter is an elite dman in all 3 zones. He is stellar in all areas and is easily one of the smartest dman in the nhl he rarely makes mistakes. Dman>Wingers. 7mil>9.5 mil. Suter had a very strong season and can still play 30+ min a night. Meanwhile ovie is starting to show huge signs of regression on a near career low of scoring.

10 Jun 2017 07:21:42
Bro he's not near Ovi don't even try to convince me or anyone else.

10 Jun 2017 13:45:39
All I'm saying that ovie is regressing pretty badly I'd take Jamie Benn over him for a joke even tho Ovie was clearly better then him in the 2015-2016 season.

07 Jun 2017 11:21:07
Seen posts of Calgary interested in ovechkin and apparently offered them a package as well with them being interested in tanev. Here's some trades I thought of. Also note that the ovechkin trade is what was offered by Calgary apparently.

CGY: Sam Bennett + Oliver Kylington + 2 1st Round Picks + Troy Brouwer + Lance Bouma
WSH: Alex Ovechkin

( I added in Brouwer, Bouma for cap reasons)

CGY: Mark Jankowski + Rasmus Andersson + rights to Adam Fox + Morgan Klimchuk + Matt Stajan
VAN: Chris Tanev

Sign Oshie, Stone, Elliott, Versteeg, Chiasson (they have the cap space)
Projected Lineup 2017/ 18

Alex Ovechkin-Sean Monahan-Johnny Gaudreau
Matthew Tkachuk-Mikael Backlund-TJ Oshie
Michael Ferland-Curtis Lazar-Michael Frolik
Garnet Hathaway-F. Hamilton-Alex Chaisson

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Chris Tanev
Matt Bartkowski - Michael Stone

Brian Elliott
Jon Gillies

After expansion of course.

07 Jun 2017 11:29:17
Ahah you didn't need that name for us to know you're a Flames fan.

07 Jun 2017 14:52:46
Apparently the rumour that Calgary made an offer is made up by a noted blogger.

07 Jun 2017 14:42:48
Great post!

07 Jun 2017 14:53:22
Please god no.

07 Jun 2017 15:02:15
Not sure you gave enough pieces for tanev, should probly include the next 5 3rd round picks as well.

07 Jun 2017 15:35:58
Hahahahahaha.

07 Jun 2017 15:42:23
You just made the ovi proposal even worse than it already was lol where is your head at rn thinking this is all good.

07 Jun 2017 16:16:58
Congrats flamesfan (if you really are one) you just decimated years of building up our prospect base. These are all terrible trades. I saw the Ovi one as well and it's highly unlikely that was ever offered.

12 Jun 2017 10:40:49
Flamesfan is obviously an Edmonton Oilers fan. Those suggestions are akin to someone claiming to be an Oilers fan suggesting the club trade Connor McDavid for Matt Cullen.

04 Jun 2017 22:56:27
caps: Carlson, 2018 4th

bolts:drouin

reasons why:
caps: get younger and faster, noting they had one of the oldest teams in the nil this year.
frown can shine in Washington playing with kuzy.
caps have enough defence to be able to do this

bolts: they need a RHD and Carlson will fit perfectly in Tampa Imo.
lets them resign their rfa like Johnson and palat while filling their needs.
makes them solid overall and helps young star goalie vas

value seems pretty fair, if anything bolts add or caps don't add 4th, noting from the hall- Larson trade

04 Jun 2017 23:10:55
Value is there but imo both teams say no and IMO I'd rather have Drouin.

04 Jun 2017 23:33:46
Too big of an age gap.

05 Jun 2017 11:08:16
Carlsson > Drouin.

Carlsson is right handed and can score some points. Really good on defence as well. top 2 defenceman.

Drouin is meh, had many troubles in the past so i'm still not sure teams will pay a top 2 right hand d-man for him.

05 Jun 2017 11:55:17
TB3 he is also a UFA tho.

03 Jun 2017 16:32:58
Leafs trade and free agent idea:

Trade # 1
Toronto trades:
Jeremy Brocco, Connor Brown and 2nd in 2018

Philadelphia trades:
Brayden Schenn

Trade #2
Toronto trades:
Jvr and 17th overall

NYI:
Hamonic, Pulock and 15th overall

Trade #3
Toronto trades:
Bozak


Nashville:
2nd in 2018

Trade #4
Toronto trade:
Nashville 2nd in 2018

Washington trades:
Tom Wilson

Free agent option
Alzner, E. Gudbranson, Boyle and
Bonino.

03 Jun 2017 18:03:08
So Hamonic AND Pulock for JVR and TOR also gets the better pick? Jesus Christ.

03 Jun 2017 18:58:33
Erik Gudbranson is an RFA. So you'd that's a first and third round pick.

03 Jun 2017 20:06:02
Started out ok. I thought the Philly one was a maybe. Then got worse for there for teams not names Toronto.

03 Jun 2017 20:19:48
are you guys mad?
philly one is a no from leafs. bracco is going to make the nhl, brown got 20 goals. if brown gets traded its for a dman.

JVR one, take out Pulock and its good. either way, pulock is lost in expansion draft.

bozak one is an EASY no from leafs. 50 points for a 2nd? heck no.

wilson one is an easy no from caps. wilson provides more enrgy to their team than the worth of a 2nd.

03 Jun 2017 22:35:23
Why would the Flyers trade Schenn, and get 2 poor replacements for him? Don't care about the pick, Schenn plays multiple positions and is a good pp player.

04 Jun 2017 20:21:47
Connor brown is a good player not worth schenn I don't think bracco plays long in the NHL so no derail to be has.

02 Jun 2017 22:21:02
Anaheim: Fowler, perry, Ritchie, 1st

Washington: Ovi, Wilson

03 Jun 2017 00:10:07
Holy Mackinaw.

05 Jun 2017 06:57:07
Throw Rakell and Gibson in there too so it is fair.

02 Jun 2017 15:17:33
NOT my words.

Montreal, Dallas and Vegas in a bidding ware for Ovie. Or just really wanting him.
Ovie has said before that he would love to call Montreal home and Montreal is looking for more scoring and a sniper.
Dallas is offering up a package mainly around their two first rounders. And Vegas GM McPhee was Washington GM for a long time and would love to add Ovie to boost the brand new team in the Vegas market.

02 Jun 2017 16:05:55
where'd you see this? Ovechkin to DAL don't get me hyped!

02 Jun 2017 16:10:09
What would mtl have to add, 2017 first, 2018 first, galchenyuk, sergachev?

02 Jun 2017 16:45:44
Oh hell no. I don't want him on Habs.

02 Jun 2017 16:56:24
Dont worry sosa, he isn't coming to MTL. can't afford him.

02 Jun 2017 17:35:20
Unless he gets retain like 3 million km good. Mtl don't even have to pieces to acquire him pkus he's regressing. I'D rather get Giroux or an actual first line center.

03 Jun 2017 02:40:00
Love to see him go to Dallas.

Ovie-Seguin-Benn

Benn>>Backstrom so you'd see Ovies production sky rocket. Omg would this line ever be scary. Righty-lefty duo for one Timers in benn and Ovie.

03 Jun 2017 08:56:10
^what else does Backstrom have to do to finally get proper recognition?

03 Jun 2017 09:57:38
Benn is not >> Backstrom
Mayyyyyybe you could argue >= but not way better.
I think it's dead even could go either way. Personal

I like Benn myself. But know he's not way better than Backstrom.

03 Jun 2017 13:25:34
Really guys I'd go as far as saying Benn is the best winger in the nhl besides patty kane.

31 May 2017 22:30:54
This trade under the wild assumption that WAS WANTS to move Ovie

WAS: Landeskog, Meloche

COL: Ovie

31 May 2017 23:18:48
Well no that's not close to enough.

01 Jun 2017 18:50:49
For shits and giggles - but no one is giving Washington a kings ransom for Ovie.

31 May 2017 04:24:14
To NJ
Ovechkin

To Wsh
Kovalchuk
Smith-Pelly
2017 1st

31 May 2017 14:51:31
Lol not nearly enough for the great russian.

31 May 2017 20:03:46
Dont think that's enough. also dobt see him being traded in same division. or even conference. for some reason I thimk he would be good in a Kings uniform , but I know they have salary cap issues. So not sure how they go about it. and what pieces would have to be involved. something around Jeff Carter and extras as well as pieces from LA to get it all together . Both around the same age.

31 May 2017 20:03:46
Dont think that's enough. also dobt see him being traded in same division. or even conference. for some reason I thimk he would be good in a Kings uniform , but I know they have salary cap issues. So not sure how they go about it. and what pieces would have to be involved. something around Jeff Carter and extras as well as pieces from LA to get it all together . Both around the same age.

28 May 2017 02:16:23
-Oshie resigning in Washington all but done.

-An insider suggesting Joe Thornton wants to play in Toronto.

-Bobbys Ryan's NMC only protects him from being sent to the minors. Some people think it's a no trade list.

-Barberio ex Colorado Avalanche has said that Duchene does and would welcome a a trade to play for another team other than Colorado.

28 May 2017 05:14:05
Joe Thortan to Toronto makes no sense A, We got Nylander, Bozak, Kadri and Mathews B, Why would he want to go to a team that won't win the cup next year. I like him and I wouldn't mind signing him if we traded Bozak but really it's not a fit. Montreal would want him the most i'd think.

28 May 2017 06:15:07
- Super Secret CIA-FBI-NSA insider revealed that Wayne ''The Money'' Gretzky will be un-retiring and play for the Quebec Nordiques as a defenceman.

28 May 2017 18:12:24
@Nylander
Yes I'm sure Montreal is jumping up and down for a 38 year old center who will score the same amount of points as Galchenyuk.

29 May 2017 00:09:40
Oshie 3-5 years at $5M.
Wow. That's a big discount in my opinion. He could get 6x6 I think.

29 May 2017 01:00:39
TB3 I disagree that Pleky is the better player. IMO Thortan would be a huge upgrade on Plek and Danult.

24 May 2017 19:27:58
Caps-holtby
Flyers-2nd overall

Sign grubi long term, he's proving he's a #1 goalie especially after his 48 save 2-1 loss to Canada with Germany.
Helps philly with their goalie problem which they need help with to make them contenders, helps caps become faster and younger will still having a number one goalie

Opinions on who adds would be nice or is it even, I was thinking Philly adds a guy like nick cousins or something because nico(probs 2nd overall) hasn't proved anything yet in the NHL

24 May 2017 19:31:27
kill me now. what's has this site come to.

24 May 2017 20:05:08
lol
2017 Vesna candidate for 2nd overall in the poorest draft year in a very long time.
Me thinks Philly better offer up perhaps Provorov, and Simmonds along with this pick to get in the ballpark.

24 May 2017 20:45:43
The draft is week but this draft reminds me of a arguing hall type draft in the first 2 guys.

24 May 2017 20:57:56
Sam that's the easiest no from caps. Ugh.

24 May 2017 21:01:51
Only because two guy have separated from the pack is it similar to hall/ seguin but the class isn't expected to be deep after that. While after those two in 2010 were still johansen, skinner, fowler, tarasenko, kuznetsov and so on. That was not expected to be a weak draft like this one is.

24 May 2017 21:38:10
the flyers have some of the best Goalie prospects in the league. they'll sign a stop gap like Ryan Miller for a year, and either use their pick, or trade it for a goal scorer. Landeskog.

25 May 2017 01:39:06
@ft4a

'Me thinks'? SOundin like Shakespeare lol.

25 May 2017 15:07:01
I love the "Grubrauer stopped 48 shots losing 2-1 to Canada so he's now a number 1 and you don't need Holtby" part lol

Sochi 2014, Latvia lost 2-1 to Canada and Kristers Gudlevskis stopped 55 shots. I was shocked when yzerman didn't cut Ben bishop AND Andrei Vaselievsky upon returning home because gudlevskis had clearly leaped them both on the depth chart. Come on.

3 seasons later he's still a really good AHL goalie who will now probably back up vasilevsky in the fall.

Holtby is a vezina caliber goalie at 27. Is it really time to push him out because his back up had a good week overseas? NO!

25 May 2017 17:49:41
BTW 2014 Sochi was Canada's A squad. The Worlds in France and Germany last week was somewhere between a b and c squad.

15 May 2017 23:28:31
heard a lot of rumours that ovi will get traded. Here is a HYPOTHETICAL trade

Ott: chabot, 2017 1st, 2018 1st, ceci
Wsh: Ovechkin

PS: he has an 8 million $ contract

16 May 2017 00:31:20
Actually he has 9,583,432.00 mil cap hit with 10,000,000 per actual salary for the remainder because it was a front loaded contract.

16 May 2017 01:51:24
Doubt he gets traded.

16 May 2017 03:15:25
Besides the fact you don't know his cap, you also don't know anything about his value. Pretty easy no from caps.

16 May 2017 20:24:20
Honestly to much for a 31 year old Ovi. Chabotnplsu two first rounder and a top 4 RhHD. seems like overpayment to me.

15 May 2017 03:42:56
La: Ovi, schmidt

Wsh: Pearson, Martinez, Gaborik, 1st, 2nd 2018 becomes first if La makes it to the conference finals and ovi scores 40 goals total

15 May 2017 05:06:20
Omfg could you offer anything worse to caps. My god.

15 May 2017 10:43:51
wow why in the world would the caps do this?

15 May 2017 12:43:25
pearson/ 1st for ovie
2nd for sxhmidt


this is bad man. wazhington shuts you down asap.

10 May 2017 05:54:42
Do these trades work value wise?

CBJ: Savard
MTL: Beaulieu, the caps next two seconds (who they used to get Eller)


MTL: Petry
Komarov: 3rd, 6th

BUF: Eichel
MTL: Chucky, Juulsen, 2nd.

10 May 2017 05:59:24
No from Columbus.
Komarov is a team? Lol. So no
Easy no from buffalo.

10 May 2017 06:34:22
I would take the columbus trade with the youth growing on D and we wouldn't have to protect Savard in the expansion.

10 May 2017 07:00:46
didn't montreal trade one of the 2nds to chicago in the shaw deal?

10 May 2017 12:41:56
They did Kaner.

05 May 2017 06:22:12
Very unlikely but what would their trade value be as of right now.

(Ovi and Kovalchuk? )
WSH: Alex Ovechkin
NJ: 1st Overall + Steve Santini + John Quenneville + Pavel Zacha

WSH: Niklas Backstrom
PHI: 2nd Overall + Ivan Provorov

WSH: Lars Eller
OTT: Bobby Ryan

Resign Oshie

REBUILD LINES

Marcus Johansson-Evgeni Kuznetzov-TJ Oshie
Andre Burakovsky-Nolan Patrick-Bobby Ryan
Nico Hischier-Pavel Zacha-Tom Wilson
Daniel Winnik-Jay Beagle-Brett Connolly

05 May 2017 08:12:28
washington would never trade ovi, even if they did they could get way more than that and way better than that.

i would say the backstrom trade would be close but likely would never happen as no from both sides, more likely philly.

bobby ryan is worth more than lars eller.

05 May 2017 08:51:49
What the crap dude.

05 May 2017 18:56:06
As a Caps fan, all this does is screw up our team. Jersey and Philly are going nowhere, so why would Ovi and Backie leave when they want to win now?

05 May 2017 19:21:39
Ryan's long term salary is too much for any GM to take on. Ottawa is going to have to suck it up and buy him out.

Once bought out, Washington can get him for a realistic salary and term without spending an asset.

13 May 2017 22:55:42
Provorov PLUS 2nd overall? Bwaahaha. What are you smoking?

04 May 2017 05:00:33
Washington Capitals:

- Rights to Valeri Nichushkin

Dallas Stars:

- Philipp Grubauer

- Dmitry Orlov

==============

Fair?
Dallas needs a goalie and defence.
Nichushkin's career could start again with Kuz and Ovi in Washington.

04 May 2017 05:19:23
Caps need more. All they get is the rights to a guy who may not come back? I could see them giving their back up who might start somewhere else (Grubrauer) but not adding in a decent D man too. 2 good pieces guaranteed to play for stars for a lottery ticket isn't a smart move.

04 May 2017 06:12:00
No go from caps. Solid back up and a top 4 d? No thanks.

04 May 2017 15:31:12
Wouldn't even trade Orlov for Nichushkin, Orlov has really come along the past couple of years.

04 May 2017 01:17:25
Cal: Bennett + 1st
MTL: Chucky, beaulieu

Cal: rights to elliot + 3rd
washington: grubauer.

04 May 2017 04:57:49
Bennett is not getting traded. Could people please stop?

04 May 2017 05:23:26
Also if flames aren't resigning Elliott, then he goes to market. Why trade for his rights? He's going to sign wherever the best opportunity for himself is, regardless of who owns his rights Until July 1st. And Washington is definitely not a good chance of him prolonging his career. He's not at the point in his career to sign behind a guy that plays 65-70 games.

04 May 2017 16:41:00
1st in 2017 is worthless and Bennett is trending towards bust.

Biggest NO ever from Montreal ever heard!

 
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