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13 Dec 2018 17:27:34
St Louis: Tarasenko, Bowmester (cap dump).

Vancouver: Juolevi, Virtanen, Gaudette, 2rd 2019.

13 Dec 2018 18:59:19
Couple busts for an elite scorer. nice.

13 Dec 2018 06:16:27
Wild trade: Dumba, Coyle

Nucks trade: Boeser, tanev, 3rd round pick 2020

Idk if either team would trade dumba or boeser but I think it would help the Canucks out for young D and size with coyle

13 Dec 2018 12:51:08
Of you have watched Boeser and Petterson play together, Canucks would be fools to split that up. That instant chemistry is always nice, but when both players are like 22 or under, that could be a top duo for 15 years. Would take a massive overpayment and this just isn’t it.

13 Dec 2018 15:34:31
Definitely huge no from Vancouver. And like Jim said you can’t break up that duo they are so dynamic and dangerous it would be beyond foolish to trade one away.

08 Dec 2018 21:05:43
Toronto Trades
CBrown
Zaitsev
Sparks
Timashov (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Vancouver Trades
Virtanen
CTanev
ANilsson
Gagner (AHL)
6th Round Pick 2019

Looking at both Teams needs this Trade Proposal does this.

For Toronto they get a little more grit on the 4th Line getting Virtanen, CTanev gives them a Solid RHanded Shooting Defenceman, ANilsson as a Vet Backup to FAndersen is more trusting if FAndersen gets hurt and Gagner loaned to the Marlies from the Canucks gives them that recall Depth should any of the Leafs Top 9 Forwards gets injured.

For Vancouver CBrown is a more consistent up and Down RWinger that gives the Canucks more stability in the Bottom 6 at Forward, Zaitsev is the weakest link in this Trade but still a 4th Defenceman on Vancouver, Sparks is a Younger Goaltender that is a positive over ANilsson, Gagner's buried Contract is moved and getting Timashov gives them another Prospect for the future, exchanging a 6th Rounder for a 4th Rounder is again a positive for Vancouver.

Thoughts ?

09 Dec 2018 14:32:01
I like the idea of adding virtanen and tanev but I don't think Canucks do this.

09 Dec 2018 20:52:27
vancouver gets nothing of value in this trade, big no.

06 Dec 2018 23:07:46
Vancouver:
LW - Loui Eriksson $6.00
RW/C - Sam Gagner $3.15
G - Anders Nilsson $2.50


Ottawa:
RW - Bobby Ryan $7.25
G - Mike Condon $2.40
LW - Nick Paul $0.650

07 Dec 2018 02:23:51
Why tho.

07 Dec 2018 05:16:54
Loui Eriksson isn’t working out in Vancouver and likewise for Bobby Ryan in Ottawa. Loui eriksson has a back diving contract, Ryan doesn’t so I could see Ottawa taking a chance on Eriksson. Even if he doesn’t work out he will be half the salary than Bobby Ryan. Benning is looking to move Gagner out, When Gagner gets sent to the AHL he is loaned to Toronto marlies to be closer to his family. So either playing in Ottawa or Belleville it is much closer than Vancouver.

07 Dec 2018 17:21:09
Didn't know le was still playing.

08 Dec 2018 13:08:39
1st off 6 million isn't half of 7.25 million lol

2nd Ryan has done more for Ottawa that Erickson has done for Vancouver, and Ryan has been off and on for years while Erikson hasn't looked good since his 1st year or 2 in Boston, I think I speak for most sens fans when I say I'd rather keep Ryan than take on more salary like in this deal when the players involved aren't worth mentioning, why take on an extra 2 million in unwanted salary? All that does is make it tougher to move more players.

28 Nov 2018 01:25:46
Leafs trade Kapanen, Sparks
Vancouver trades Goldobin, Demko.

28 Nov 2018 16:52:33
Holy!, I don’t think Benning would have ever blocked someone’s phone number so fast as he would if Dubas suggested this 😂

Kapanen has more value than Goldobin I guess but Demko is in a different league than Sparks when it comes to value, this trade isn’t even close.

28 Nov 2018 17:28:39
I stead of Demko, how about DiPietro.

My thinking is Andersen is going to be expensive dive to re-sign. Maybe we can get a highly ranked goalie prospect player to replace him in a few years.

26 Nov 2018 00:48:06
Canucks trade: boeser, Tanev, 2nd rounder

Wild trade: dumba, Coyle


How do you guys feel about this one?

26 Nov 2018 03:22:53
Woah. Yes please from Minny.

26 Nov 2018 04:23:55
I’m not so sure this is a tilted in Minny’s favor as it looks at first. Boeser’s history of injury has got to be concerning. But looking past that, Dumba is an outstanding RHD, and replaces a large chunk of Boeser’s offense himself. Top 15 in the league and trending up. He’s on a damn good contract for a 1RHD of his caliber too. Vancouver could use Dumba a lot considering their RHD right now is Tanev, Gudbranson, Stetcher. That’s got to be one of the worst in the league.

Coyle is no hack either. Plays a damn good game and brings some nice size and physicality to Vancouver that they they could probably use more of.

There’s a lot going for this trade. Definitely good for thought. I like it.

24 Nov 2018 03:58:22
Jackets trade: Panarin

Canucks trade: Gaudette, Goldobin, 2nd round pick

Dahlen Petterson Boeser
Panarin Horvat Virtanen
Baertschi Grandlund Lind

Hughes Woo
Juolevi tanev
Pouliot stetcher

Demko

That future looks unreal

24 Nov 2018 04:22:28
Gonna take more from van

24 Nov 2018 04:28:13
I love it. Not sure Columbus does. Any trade with Vancouver you got to be thinking about that 1st. And for Panarin, I don’t think Columbus takes anyone serious without a 1st +. Goldobin having a good year so far. Until now he’s been a bust.

We’re you planning on re-signing Panarin? Because that might be a tight squeeze for Vancouver.

24 Nov 2018 04:40:40
definetly not a bad offer, I'd think CBJ would want quality>quantity, maybe a 1st baertschi and goldy could do it, still think a bigger piece may have to move.

24 Nov 2018 15:01:43
Just terrible, going to grab panarin for the big playoff push than lose him for nothing?

23 Nov 2018 21:46:11
The Canucks, Penguins and Habs could all use a shake up.

Canucks send Pouliot and a 4th round pick to Habs for Jordie Benn and goalie Charlie Lindgren.

Canucks send Markstrom to Penguins for Riley Sheahan, Canucks retain 1 million of Markstrom contract this year and next.

Canucks Goalies for the remainder of this season Nilsson and combo of Lindgren/Demko neither have to clear waivers so the two can go up and down.

24 Nov 2018 00:50:20
Umm . no thanks.

23 Nov 2018 08:46:46
Just ideas

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Jakob Chychrun
• (D) Filip Westerlund
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
Arizona Coyotes acquire:
• (C) William Nylander (verbal agreement to resign with the Arizona Coyotes)

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Brett Pesce
• (D) Adam Fox
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
Carolina Hurricanes acquire:
• (C) William Nylander

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Shayne Gostisphere
Philadelphia Flyers acquire:
• (C) William Nylander

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Chris Tanev
• (D) Olli Juolevi
Vancouver Canucks acquire:
• (C) William Nylander (verbal agreement to resign with the Vancouver Canucks)

21 Nov 2018 19:20:03
Canucks: Sam gagner (50% retained) 1.55 million roughly, Derrick pouliot 1.1 million 2020, 2nd round pick and 2019 5th

Oilers: Jesse Puljujärvi, Brodziak (for cap reasons)

21 Nov 2018 21:21:43
Brodz has been a very nice off season addition. He's very liked on the fourth line. I don't think they would give Piljujarvi away for this package at the moment.

23 Nov 2018 05:37:29
Gagner is worse than worthless. He has negative value. You would actually have to pay another team a pick/ prospect to take Gagner now. He’s looking pretty good on Marlies playing against guys his skill set. Maybe he should just stay there a while.

21 Nov 2018 09:58:14
Boston has injury trouble on defensemen and could use a veteran to help stabilize and provide some depth when regulars return.

Canucks- Del Sotto
Bruins 4th round pick.

21 Nov 2018 16:33:58
I think Canucks would want more and I don’t know how del zotto would fit in in Boston. They have a certain identity and although the league is tamer than it used to be, they still expect their players to play a certain way. Not sure of the fit.

20 Nov 2018 18:55:59
Vancouver:
LD - Alex Edler $5.00 (Retain 50%)

Winnipeg:
C - Nic Petan $0.874
Conditional Pick (3rd in 2020 but if WPG wins the cup turns into 2019 2nd)

20 Nov 2018 19:46:08
I think Van would probably want more.

20 Nov 2018 20:40:41
That’s better value than last week when PuprleFart was saying Nylander for Edler lol.

21 Nov 2018 05:10:32
Kind of depends on if vancouvers believes that they need picks to rebuild or if they think that they might have a chance and their view of petan. He does look better this year. Still don't like him but there could be hope.

19 Nov 2018 08:33:23
Toronto Trades
Holl

Vancouver Trades
Gagner(AHL)

Gagner already loaned out to the Marlies and would be a great depth move for the Leafs, Canucks want to rid themselves of Gagners Contract so makes sense for them as well.

Thoughts?

19 Nov 2018 11:39:07
You got to wait for what’s happening with Nylander before evaluating the leafs cap situation.

19 Nov 2018 14:11:25
If it was for a depth add and he only had this season left, of give it a shot because we have tons of cap space now. But with $3+ mill owing next year too, no thanks.

19 Nov 2018 17:49:52
Gagner is looking good on the Marlies. I knew once he started playing against guys his own skill level he would turn it around. We can’t take Gagner from Marlies. They need him more than us.

19 Nov 2018 21:33:43
Canucks already took him from Marlies.

19 Nov 2018 21:36:50
Gagner was recalled by the Canucks yesterday so don't know if it's an option anymore.

17 Nov 2018 01:06:04
Toronto- nylander
Vancouver- Tanev goldobin 3 rd rounder

17 Nov 2018 06:18:55
Tanev: 0g, 3a, -8, 38.8%cf.

Absolutely terrible numbers. Two successive years of injury have taken their toll on this young man. I have a hard time ever seeing him return to form. I hate to see someone’s career go this way. Tanev had some real potential, but injuries are nature of the game, and many great players had their careers ended too early because of it.

Leafs have to pass on this one. I wish Tanev luck, hope he turns it around, but will have to be playing for someone else.

17 Nov 2018 13:07:54
Easy no from Toronto.

15 Nov 2018 10:51:22
Canucks: horvat, tanev, stecher, joulevi, granlund

Tor: mathews, nikta z

Marlue tavars nylander
Granlund horvat marner
Hyman kadri kapapen
Llevo lindholm brown

Rielly stecher
Gradnier tanev
Hainsey dermont

Sven mathews virtanen
Goldobin petterson boeser
Roussel sutter erikson
Schaller beagle motte

15 Nov 2018 11:28:24
lol no.

15 Nov 2018 13:25:55
Did anyone watch the top 4 under 24 tsn show last night by Craig Button and Frank Cereveli? They rank the best group of 4 under the age of 24 of each team.
What surprised me the most was they had STL ranked 29th.
27. NSH - Tolvanen, Saros, Fiala, Fabbro.
28. Minn - Kaprizov, Greenway, Johanssen, Eriksson.
29. STL - Thomas, Fabbri, Kyrou, Dunn.
30. LAK - Vilardi, Kupari, Kempe, Anderson-Dolan.
31. PIT - Jarry, Sprong, Addison, Bellerive.


Tonight's show is ranking the top 50 players under the age 24. They said there's a clear cut number one and there was an argument about number two. Could they think Petterson has moved up into the conversation?

15 Nov 2018 14:29:25
Lol oops. This was supposed to be a post not a comment. Sorry to hijack the thread Dmt. I don't think Mathews is available anyways 😉.

15 Nov 2018 15:06:18
Yupp I agree that’s insane they are so low in the list, but I do like the team who was ranked #1 🤪
As for this post ya no this trade isn’t possible lol.

15 Nov 2018 15:17:13
Maybe McKinnon is in that talk now at number two?
Who else should be up top ten under 24. Few come to mind are McDavid Mathews McKinnon Peterson Pasternak
In no particular order. Liane Eichel Drai Marner be up there. Who else.

15 Nov 2018 15:42:33
Rantanen.

15 Nov 2018 15:52:33
Prov and Barzal come to mind.

Imo the tiers are (no orders in the tiers)

McDavid

Matthews
MacKinnon
Petterson

Eichel
Laine
Pasta
Rantanen

Prov
Marner
Barzal
Drais
—.

15 Nov 2018 16:01:57
I agree with most of what you saying TSS. I'm just not sure I have Petterson in that group yet.
Hes well on his way, no doubt about that, but I just want to see how he manages in a long NHL season, he's had one of the best starts to a career anyone has had. but. let's see I he can keep it up

Also. how old is Barkov. I may have him in the tier with Eichel.

15 Nov 2018 16:04:13
I think the argument at 2 will be Mathews and MacKinnon, which shouldn't be any argument at all. Quite clear MacKinnon is superior to Mathews.

15 Nov 2018 16:24:47
Topshelf that list is really good I agree with it exactly.

15 Nov 2018 16:25:23
Ah ya Barkov. He'll be up there too! Funny I just overlook and forget about him. And he was just voted (I'm pretty sure by the players) as the most underrated guy in the league.
Rantanen is now of course up there.

What about under 25 D man, in the league now and not in the league now. Seth Jones under 24 still?

And crap, not to bring up the Leafs and get into an argument now but the 4 under 24 list they should each teams top ten under 24 in the system and they had Sandin ranked one higher than Lilgiren. I found that interesting because I'm a fan of Lilgiren but not gmail oar with Sandin.

15 Nov 2018 18:17:24
@ yupp There is always some crazy things in any list craig button is a part of. But I actually like sandin a little more then lillegren too.

15 Nov 2018 18:51:51
Ya man I've never been a fan of Button.
These lists are just his opinions with Frank Ceraveli. And they do their homework and have been scoping all these guys for many years now even before they were drafted. I'll take the list with a grain of salt and of course have differences in opinion.

15 Nov 2018 20:29:52
I think TSS list is really good. Barkov could be in there. Him and Mackinnon are both still 23 and even though the same draft, Seth jones is a 1994 birthday, not 95 so he’s already 24 and just misses the cut off.

Pettersen has definitely had a start that should have him in the conversation, but I agree, let’s see that one again next season or after 60NHL games and check his pace. The way he creates offense, I wouldn’t be shocked if he can keep it up, but wouldn’t betvthe farm on it yet either

Also with regards to Liljegren/ Sandin I think they’re probably interchangeable on that list but Sandin was better in his first NHL camp this year than Liljegren was in his 2nd, so people have kind of fallen in love with the idea he’s further ahead and better. A year apart, a lefty and righty, if they both become top 4 guys, not stars i’ll Take it.

15 Nov 2018 20:31:50
Imo Nylander should be in they're before Pettersen atm because like Sosa said Pettersen just have a a exellent but very small sample. After another 30 games let's include I'm if he keeps it up.

15 Nov 2018 22:28:30
Just seen that Damien Cox a Toronto media guy on Twitter suggesting today that Toronto should trade Mathews. Saying that Tavares is playing so well why not sign Marner and Nylander and trade Mathews for a whole pile of goodies, He says not that they would but it's not a crazy idea anymore. And this idea is because of the Tavares signing and how well he is playing. Suggests something. Significant that helps now and is under contract for at least 3 years plus something else significant that is just starting ELC.
Does any Leaf fan out there agree with that? Would any one actually also suggest this.

16 Nov 2018 00:08:51
Barkov is going to be such a sick two way force. completeky forgot about him, mainky yes because he does play in Florida lol but also because I never realized how young the guy is.
He plays with such a veteran style and yet is the same age as Mack. Hard to believe imo.
Glad you guys liked my tiers tho. if i was adding Barkov, he's in that Eichel group as well imho.

And for me, i absoluteky love Timmy, so i think Likjegren>Sandin atm, but they both coukd be promising. From reports tho, I've heard that liljegren is struggling slighlt (not points wise, but dzone coverage wise) to start this year in the AHL. Maybe that factored imto it? idk.

16 Nov 2018 00:10:24
Totally agree with EP as well. He has a big hype train around him, i don't kmow if he tapers off but i feel like with sedins leaving him and boeser became such a big deal in Vancouver (not saying its unwarranted, no, but Barzal had the same kind of start in NYI, just less coverage so he never got spoke about) .

16 Nov 2018 00:34:27
Just don’t think you ever win a trade when Matthews goes the other way. We waited too long for a player like him to trade him already. I can see the logic he’s trying to explain, I don’t see it ever happening and I wouldn’t want it to happen.

16 Nov 2018 04:17:11
I’d rather keep the center depth even though Matthews injuries are a concern. Pittsburgh has proven for years that you can put almost anyone with a good center and they will produce. Not this year of course, I don’t know what’s going on in Pittsburgh. Kapanen was tearing it up playing with Matthews. Leafs need him back but I think they’d have to at least consider a bridge deal to make sure he can stay healthy.

16 Nov 2018 05:21:03
I've been saying for months. trade Mathews lol. Leafs 17. you can't compare the Leafs to the situation in Pittsburgh. they have one and you could almost say 2 generational talents . Tavares is really damn good. and Mathews has shown he is in spurts.

16 Nov 2018 06:47:04
Crosby/ Malkin are definitely better Sosa but Tavares/ Matthews are pretty much PPG players. I think I could put up 20 goals playing with either of them, lol. The key I guess to trading Matthews that I forgot to mention would be a legit #1 dman.

16 Nov 2018 11:49:10
A bridge deal would be too nice for the team but no way at all Mathews agent agrees to a bridge deal. He's going to get max term and so much money.

16 Nov 2018 12:06:12
Yes a bridge deal would be too nice. Still no way I’d trade Matthews. The thought of a #1 dman and maybe more in return is interesting but if he can stay healthy I think it would be a mistake.

16 Nov 2018 14:31:52
Since they got Tavares, I have been saying. send the kid home., to Arizona, for OEL. And Arizona would have to add. if Chayka says no. well then the damn league should remove him. let alone his GM firing him.
This deal would be good for the league., make Toronto a more well rounded team, and make Arizona a relevant team.

16 Nov 2018 18:12:10
I wouldn't be shocked if Matthews ends up in Arizona at some point in his career (if they still have a team), but I don’t think he wants to go now and be on a bad team. He wants to win. And obviously he makes them better, but if OEL+ goes the other way, that’s the next best piece leaving. If people don’t think leafs can compete till they get better D, what chance does Arizona have with that team by just adding Matthews and subtracting OEL and more? None.

Players always say the right thing and say they want to stay where they are and want to re-sign. But Matthews was on the spittin chiclets podcast with Ryan Whitney (side note, very entertaining, check it out) and said how he actually has stayed up at night thinking about what it would be like to win in Toronto because of the fan base and the generations that haven’t seen it and that that motivates him and wants nothing more than to win here. For a guy that isn’t overly revealing to the media in most cases and gives pretty stoic interviews, that feels pretty honest.

Considering he technically could be justified in asking more than mcdavid with almost 10 mill cap rose between their signings, I think he will leave a bit of money on the table and sign long term within the next few months. My guess is more than tavares, less than mcdavid. 8x$11.75-$12. Could be way off and he may ask $13.5 though.

13 Nov 2018 09:49:01
Canucks joulevi tanev stecher edler granlund 2 ed pick


Tor nylander gardnier nikta z



Marlue tavars marner
Kapanen mathews kadi
Granlund hyman brown

Reilly tanev
Edler stecher
Joulevi hainsey

Sven horvat nylander
Goldobin petterson nylander
Erikson sutter virtanen
Roussel beagle schaller

Hutton nikta z
Gardnier guddy
zotto. Pouliot

13 Nov 2018 15:36:09
I'll say unbelievable just because i don't think Nylander can play on the first and second line. You should probably put Brock in there somewhere.

13 Nov 2018 17:22:37
You seem to have misplaced Dermott from Leafs lineups as well as the entire 4th line. Small oversight given that you are Canucks fan is forgiveable.

A complete remake of our defense. Not sure how necessary an overhaul is. Changes are coming, but will likely be replacement from internal and maybe a ufa signing.

I like the thought though. Trading these guys to a west coast team that probably won’t be competitive for a few years makes sense. The only way they come back to hurt is is in the finals.

14 Nov 2018 01:35:24
Without getting into analyzing each piece, I will simply say that I don’t believe taking the Canucks D from the past 3 years and putting it in Toronto is the answer to a poor Defense lol.

14 Nov 2018 01:37:24
Marlue lol last time I ever read one of your posts christ.

11 Nov 2018 20:06:51
Mtl: Mete, 2rd 2018, Primeau

Canucks: Juoelevi

11 Nov 2018 21:19:38
Maybe if Virtanen is coming back as well. oh. and he has Finnish heritage. should make ya happy Boom.

11 Nov 2018 21:56:29
Sosa what's ure problem with Filand players? Ure were not happy with Kotkaniemi and now ure can't gr enough of him! Trust me Juolevi is a star in the making.

11 Nov 2018 22:40:02
I was never unhappy with Kotkaniemi. yes I wished we picked someone else at the time, and I have admitted my mistake. but your goofy ass way of thinking the Habs need every damn Finn on the league is just ridiculous.

I'm not saying Mete is going to be a star, but I won't be suprised if he has a better career than the Juolevi. Maybe not. but anyway. ju cause KK is a Finn, doesn't mean you have to surround him with every Finnish player in the league.
But maybe of we get enough Finns, Jets and Panthers will cut is a break and give us Laine and Barkov for cheap.?

11 Nov 2018 23:37:07
@ boom boom are you sure your a habs fan?

12 Nov 2018 07:28:58
U have to realize that Fin is the way of the future.

12 Nov 2018 14:57:37
Yah McDavid who? Fins are the way of the future. BTW Russia beat Finland in the Gold medal U17 game I seen it live. Canada would’ve won for sure but they are divided between 3 teams where as the rest only have 1 team.

12 Nov 2018 15:56:12
Cant really take ya serious Boom Boom .

11 Nov 2018 01:38:22
Mtl:Juulsen,Suzuki

Canucks:Juolevi,Gaudette

11 Nov 2018 03:50:16
Boom Boom, I can't tell If your serious or trolling.
If you are serious, can you explain the logic behind this? Cause IMO . no friggin way.

11 Nov 2018 04:25:42
@ Sosa he just wants the habs to aquire every Finnish player they can.

11 Nov 2018 10:12:17
For some reason I thought you were a Habs fan, Then last week I thought you were a Canuks fan.
Who is your team Boom?
Isn't this bad for the Habs?

11 Nov 2018 13:08:50
I'm the biggest hand fan they is for clarification. I guess I value Juolevi very high. My taught prowess was

Juolevi>Juulsen

Suzuki>Gaudette
And no I'm not trolling I was very serious about this proposal. I tought Gaudette had a lot less value to suzuki and same with Juolevi to Juulsen. What am I missing guys? Seriously am I that way off?

11 Nov 2018 13:11:04
My team is Montreal and my second favorite is Buffalo.

11 Nov 2018 14:32:55
It's not that your value is off as much as it's pretty pointless for either team to make this trade.

11 Nov 2018 15:25:30
I don't think Juolevi is going to be all that great. Gaudette as well. I like Juulsen, I think he's going to have a really good all around game, not as offensive, but still capable of being a 2nd PP unit. he's going to be a top 4 forsure. and I think his ceiling could be a number 2 on a top pair.
Suzuki has a lot o promise as well. I don't know much about his defensive side to his game, however he has good offensive skill., and with KK looking like a future number 1 . he could be a good number 2. and finally the Habs have there center position set for awhile. ( in the future)
I just don't see why Habs would do this.

11 Nov 2018 16:01:14
I think Vancouver adds here. Joulevi has been more Underwhelming then Puljujarvi.

11 Nov 2018 16:21:00
Lol. Leafs fans always got to bring up Oilers comparisons in posts that have nothing to do with Edm. Try finding other comparisons for once boys, they're a out there. Just give it a try is all in saying, I believe in you. Don't be offended, I'm so sorry.

And Boom I hair ask because it seems lots of Habs fans on here really like Juulsen and Suzuki and are excited about them so you just kinda threw me off. As well as Joulevi not looking like anything special just yet, still very young and D take a little more time to break out, but just haven't seen much from him. But maybe you have noticed something in him that you like.

11 Nov 2018 17:12:26
I honestly see why he was drafted before Sergachev in terms of how he plays the game he could be a star imo. Obviously Sergachev is much better an proven at nhl level but I think Joulevi will be a better defensemen then Juulsen ever will be and Gaudette is also more proven as center then Suzuki so it work for mtl. And we add another finish player will is good because were going to be the Montreal Finish.

11 Nov 2018 17:58:07
Ones a 4th overall pick the others a 5th 1 year apart both are a underachieving. The comparison is warranted.

11 Nov 2018 18:04:44
@yupp, the top 7 players from that draft are Matthews, laine, Dubois, puli, juolevi, tkachuk and Keller. Saying he’s less proven than all of them is obvious, puli is the next closest to juolevi in terms of not living up to the hype in that group. That’s all he meant by it I’m pretty sure. Talk about offended lol next time he can put a side note in that puli has also been better than alex Nylander if it will please you.

11 Nov 2018 18:25:28
I'm not offended what so ever there, how did you get that out of my comment man? Just getting old always talking about the Leafs and Oilers in every post.

11 Nov 2018 18:31:19
😩😭poor yupper.

11 Nov 2018 18:16:14
Joulevi been progressing every year jesse p hasn't joulevi has 11 points in 14 games in ahl that pretty good and probably would be playing in nhl if canucks didn't have so many d contracts.

11 Nov 2018 19:58:11
You really don't understand tone hey Leafs17?
I'm trying to be better with bashing and just stick to actual decent on topic hockey conversation but no matter what I say someone takes it as bashing and is offended by it.
You have to take things as I say it, seems like whatever I say you think the tone is bashing you or something. Just relax a little and keep to on topic hockey conversation for a little would ya buddy?

11 Nov 2018 21:24:53
I totally understand not wanting to talk about the leafs and oilers in every post. When you say don’t be offended and I’m so sorry, it’s your same childish stuff. Does that make sense buddy?

11 Nov 2018 23:37:40
It's not childish at all. It's actually been on repeat non stop by you, no matter what I say you take it some crazy way and go off. You need understand tone and relax a little. Not everything I say is bashing you. If I'm going to
Bash you, Trust me, you'll know.

12 Nov 2018 03:29:47
Nope, just with the I’m sorry and don’t be offended. Go back and take a look how often you use that without being provoked. “Trust me, you’ll know. ” Ouch! Those are some tough words, you should try boxing like Jim suggested.

12 Nov 2018 05:19:25
@yupp, maybe you really don’t mean to bash people every post but 90% of your replies over the last year have been sarcastic, condescending or putting people down. So that ‘tone’ you think we keep reading your posts with, has been instilled by you over and over again. If you're not meaning it now, sorry, but it’s been that way for so long, that’s what I read every time.

12 Nov 2018 14:27:31
Your problem not mine. Get over it.
Give it a try moving forward.

12 Nov 2018 14:30:04
When I'm being sarcastic, You'll know.
When I'm trashing someone for being delusional, you'll know.
When it's just hockey talk and you take something completely out of context, misinterpret the tone, whine and bring up ten things non relevant to the topic, that's your problem. Just chill.

12 Nov 2018 14:35:42
And yes, just as often as any leafs fan brings oilers into a conversation, you take an unprovoked shot with the “fun to watch tho” or “whiner leaf fans” or “offended, so so sorry” on a post that no leaf fan has even commented on yet, so yeah it’s a 2 way street.

12 Nov 2018 14:41:00
On the other Talk page, you asked a direct question to me about Nylander sitting out, said it was an honest question, I answered it sincerely with a proper answer, never gave you any attitude or anything, and then you just abandon the thread because I gave you nothing to fight against lol it’s like you were wanting me to be a dick about it and when I wasn’t your “honest question, no trashing” was all of the sudden a non factor. It’s so obvious that you’re still just fishing for arguments and then claiming we take it out of context.

12 Nov 2018 17:20:15
No, because I disagree with you on that and think it's very bad for a player to sit out a season, you just don't see it very often. and no matter what I say you'll turn into an argument just like you and Habby going at it on another one.

If an Oiler was to sit out a season you would be relentless on it. Don't you get it, I'm sick of arguing about anything I say with you. I don't even want to reply to you on this thread anymore. It's non stop. You're the one poking the bear here wanting to keep. Going and going.

12 Nov 2018 17:55:23
You completely misinterpreted again there. If I was looking for arguments I would have bashed you there as I disagree with you. But I'm sick of going back and fourth so I just left it alone. I was only curious about your view on that topic, that's it, not interested in arguing about it.

12 Nov 2018 22:32:44
It’s fine you disagree with me. You think it’s dumb for a GM to play hard ball and let player to sit out a season. I think it’s dumb to overpay an RFA just to get a situation over with when you h e 8 RFAs coming up this offseason including 3 Of your top 6 forwards. That is asking to be walked over again and again.

13 Nov 2018 00:29:49
It doesn't come down to the GM being smart or dumb. He needs to get the players signed as cheap as he can if not he's going to lose at least one of them because of the cap. I doubt it has much if any affect on the other 8 rfas their agents we'll ask for what they think the player deserves regardless.

13 Nov 2018 04:54:53
@Habby, it’s been said a lot that Nylanders camp is asking so much because they fear they will sign for less than they want and then Matthews and Marner won’t leave any money on the table. So I do believe that they are going to use eachothers contracts and therefore what happens with Nylander can affect the other RFAs.

Also when we were talking about the draisatl contract, you and yupp both said that he got that much money because it was compared to Mcdavids, and that Pasternak should have got more but they wouldn’t pay him more than Bergeron or Marchand. So in those situations it’s all team comparables but not now? Why not? I’m pretty sure I know why not lol.

13 Nov 2018 10:10:24
I didn't say that. Ya better check again.

13 Nov 2018 12:41:33
Not understanding what people say yet again.

13 Nov 2018 12:51:54
Yeah you did lol him and I were talking about it, you chimed in wirh that and then he took up that as his argument too. If you want to deny it now, you can. But we both know you did and so does anyone else that read that thread. But whatever, same rules don’t apply when you guys talk about leafs manager/ player as with Edmonton, Boston or anyone else and both of you are the first guys to call ‘hater! ’ Lol just more hypocrisy.

13 Nov 2018 17:56:27
What happens with your first RFA of 9 won’t arrecr the other 8 lol that’s as short sighted as it gets.

10 Nov 2018 06:19:37
Canucks are clearly to good right now we are one of the best teams in nhl we should be rebuilding just look its not fare to edm oiler that after only 4 years at the bottom of the league where right back on top so we do what right and trade

Canucks horvat petterson boeser

Oiler sekra lucic drias

Now mcdavid well have a nhl team behind him

10 Nov 2018 14:01:56
Purplefart your going to be hated on here with that attitude. And whe ure canucks are going to hit a wall ( wich every team does st one point) you're going to look like a fool. Be modest about what ure team as accomplish because as you said they are doing very good atm but does young kids will have to face adversity at one point.

10 Nov 2018 14:42:51
So Van trades there Top 3 Young building blocks for 1 Top Player and 2 old Vets, if Benning did that he would have purple farts.

10 Nov 2018 14:30:13
Only 4 years at the bottom of the league? Lol.

10 Nov 2018 14:35:37
BoomBoom this isn't anything new from purplefart. His old account name was Brock and this kind of posts were the daily norm from him. Don't expect anything more.

10 Nov 2018 15:33:55
Well smart guy. if your one of the best teams. go to the cup.
But nice troll.

10 Nov 2018 15:40:08
Ahah thanx for the info yupp. I have to give u props too u have seemed to toned it down lately in terms of modesty and bashing people for bad proposal. And with the team the Oilers have and with Bouchard who imo is going to be a number 1 RHD in the likes of Parayko, your Oilers will be just fine. Hopefully Puljujarvi continues to improve. Do u think he might need to play the rest of the year in the ahl to get they're?

10 Nov 2018 17:13:55
Purple fart just has a sad life so he comes on here and posts stuff like this.

10 Nov 2018 17:50:34
I'm torn with Pul right now. Part of me says he needs 10 games in the AHL with the best players and lots of time, to hopefully boost some confidence that can carry back up to the big club. He had a good end to last year that was promising but ha failed to battle for a regular roster spot this year, that's been disappointing. Not they had him on the fourth line like coach Eakins and MacT did with Yak, that's so bad. Small rumor has it if he's going to get sent down that him and his agent might ask for a trade as it's obviously not working out on both sides. Now if he asked for a trade after not performing well enough to keep a spot then fine.

But, I have two opinions on Pul, which this is what I mean by torn. He came over to North America as a highly touted 18 war old not speaking any English. He came from a place where he was comfortable and had the confidence to a place where he was in the spotlight with a team like the Oilers and the spotlight they have in the hockey craze town and with McDavid. That is a hard transition for a lot of people. He lost all the confidence and maybe was a little taken back. Two years later he's still only 20 and still can't find that cocky confidence in his game he needs.
I think 10 games in the AHL is needed as he can't play well enough to stay in the NHL lineups regular rely.

Or. I would trade him, And I would look to a smaller market without the pressure or spotlight and to a team with a fellow Finn friend, not to play on the same line but to have a friend in the room and off the ice. I look at Aho and Carolina and Barkov and Florida. I think those would be good fits and think he could find his game there if he doesn't in the NHL. Great kid, I hope he can find his confidence tho no matter what happens.

11 Nov 2018 16:22:21
Does any of what I said make sense at all? Or was I just rambling. 😄.

11 Nov 2018 16:48:26
Hes one of those players Yupp who was put into NHL when he shouldn't have been. he's a really good talent who obviously is struggling. I'd hope for Oilers sake they don't give up. However maybe a change is what he needs. I'd like to trade Sherbac for him. think Habs would have to add. ( and no I don't want him just cause he's Finnish) .

09 Nov 2018 23:33:58
The Vancouver Canucks send (D) Chris Tanev & (2019) 1st-Round Pick to The Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for (C) William Nylander

The Vancouver Canucks send (RW) Loui Eriksson to The Edmonton Oilers in exchange for (LW) Milan Lucic & (2019) 2nd-Round Pick

The Vancouver Canucks send (C) Adam Gaudette, (C) Brandon Sutter & (2020) 1st-Round Pick to The Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for (D) Justine Faulk


Sven Baertschi - Bo Horvat - Brock Boeser
Nikolay Goldobin - Elias Pettersson - William Nylander
Milan Lucic - Markus Granlund - Jake Virtanen
Antoine Roussel - Tim Schaller - Tyler Motte

Ben Hutton - Justin Faulk
Derrick Pouliot - Erik Gudbranson
Michael Del Zotto - Troy Stecher

10 Nov 2018 13:11:46
Lucic> Erikson.

 
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