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21 Sep 2017 01:02:54
Even though Demers ended up going to Arizona, the Gudbranson for Demers rumours got out showing that Vancouver does not value Gud as one of their top 4 going forward. He will also be a UFA at the end of the year.

TO TOR: Gudbranson

To VAN: Bracco and Rychel

Vancouver continues to stock prospects. Toronto gets a RD that can add some real muscle to their line up and PK. While all the talk is about who will win the #6 LD spot, I think the Leafs are also worried about Connor Carrick so they need to make a move.

21 Sep 2017 07:04:56
Pretty interesting but I don't think giving up Bracco is worth it maybe if it was Bracco straight up for him.

21 Sep 2017 11:45:47
If Demers can go for McGinn, then I'd say this is pretty fair.
Maybe a small, teeny add from the Canucks? Like a 5th?

Cause Rychel sucks. He takes way too many penalties. But teams like him because of his relative youth.

15 Sep 2017 22:51:27
J.Trouba for C.Tanev + J.Virtanen

Reunites the Tanev Brothers & Trouba finally gets outta Winnipeg and Winnipeg gets a good replacement and a young player with underachieved potential.

Maybe Canucks play him how he wants to be played as a top pairing d man.

O.Joluevi - J.Trouba

15 Sep 2017 23:37:49
Tanev > Trouba imo!

16 Sep 2017 01:07:14
Just think tanev is what 29? Trouba is younger and already better.

16 Sep 2017 01:08:41
I don't know if this is valued right or not, Virtanen to me holds very little value until he steps up and shows he was worth the pick. But I would take trouba over Tanev in a heartbeat.

16 Sep 2017 02:05:23
Wtf. Trouba>>>Tanev. But Tanev is still a good D man. But yaaaa, Trouba is more valuable, easily.

04 Sep 2017 01:41:55
Canucks: Erickson
Dallas: 3rd

Basically just a cap dump for Vancouver and Dallas gets a 3rd line forward to help them with a cup run.

04 Sep 2017 06:24:00
Andddd why would Dallas want $6M for many more years to come? And for, as you say, a third liner. This is so stupid.

04 Sep 2017 07:01:20
Deal from Van, no take backs. Jim Nill doesn't seem that stupid.

05 Sep 2017 10:24:09
Retain 3 mil.

07 Sep 2017 01:18:47
Maybe a 4th round instead.

02 Sep 2017 04:28:09
After the Thomas Vanek signing, Vancouver has way too many forwards. The biggest name brands (Daniel and Henrik Sedin) are free agents after this season, and are unlikely to return to the rebuilding club. So here is my trade offer (s) ;

Trade 1.

D. Sedin + H. Sedin to the New York Rangers in exchange for R. Nash + S. Day + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- New York needs a centre, and Henrik Sedin provides that.
- Daniel Sedin provides a deadly left side for New York (Himself, Kreider, Vesey, Buch)

- Vancouver is not going to get a first round pick for each Sedin, they're values have dipped.
- Rick Nash can be flipped for more assets if salary is retained; Sean Day is a wild card dman, who could possibly be really good, and the second is pretty good value.

Trade 2.

R. Nash (50% Salary Retention) to the Washington Capitals in exchange for a 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2020 3rd Round Pick.

With the retention (&the brand name buy), a 2nd and 3rd is a fairly reasonable return for Rick Nash.


- In full; Daniel and Henrik Sedin (with 3.6 million in retention) for Sean Day, two seconds and a third and a fourth. Decent. Maybe a bit much, but idk.

02 Sep 2017 09:28:48
Sedins aren't going anywhere, you can't retain 4/ 3 players from the sedins, Vancouver has the forwards to create a competition for the prospects to make them earn a spot on the roster.

02 Sep 2017 16:25:46
Sedin's are not getting traded. They have a bunch of forwards but I believe that they won't even be picked up on waivers. So to trade NHL caliber player and play fringe AHL players will not get fans in the arena. Vancouver need to sell tickets and the Sedin's do that. Magna does not.

02 Sep 2017 21:03:14
But right now, as it stands, Goldobin and Virtanen are on the outside looking in for top9 minutes. Somethings got to give. Both are NHL ready, especially Nikolai.

03 Sep 2017 07:14:37
Goldobin has a hard time staying healthy. As for Virtanen I think he makes the team and Boucher gets put on waivers. Don't know if Dorsett is healthy enough to play. He might start the season on IR. I really don't think Goldobin is a top 6 NHL player. I might be wrong, I'm just not sold on him yet.

28 Aug 2017 20:47:39
3 Team Trade

Canucks get Benson.T, Bear.E, Leivo.J
Oilers get JVR, Cassels.C
Leafs get Tanev.C, Rattie.T

Canucks get young prospects to help the rebuild next year
Oilers get more scoring for the year before the new deals kick in
Leafs get shutdown dman to play key minutes

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Hyman

Reilly-Tanev
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Carrick

Yes I know the Leafs brought in Hainsey to play with Reilly but realistically can he still play top pairing minutes all season, he was sheltered a bit with the Pens

28 Aug 2017 23:34:45
Wow really bad for Vancouver here, also Oilers just signed Rattie, doubt he gets traded this quick.

29 Aug 2017 02:41:19
The Oilers aren't trading Bear and Benson for one year of JVR. Not a chance.
Especially giving those two to divisional rival Vancouver.
Just leave Edm out of this deal and Toronto should try and get Tanev. I've always thought he would be a good fit in Toronto.

29 Aug 2017 05:18:26
Yeah solid no from oil wow.

29 Aug 2017 17:43:27
Really bad for Van. Benson is not even in WHL camp as he is hurt yet again.

29 Aug 2017 18:11:37
I know Benny personally and I see him at the bars in Edmonton and my god the guy is chapped about his injuries it's like never ending.

29 Aug 2017 21:42:42
He's really has some bad luck. First noticed him as a bantam. Absolutely tore it up when he was younger.

30 Aug 2017 20:34:20
Well he set the record for most points in bantam in Alberta so I'd have to agree. Very promising if he can heal up.

28 Aug 2017 15:00:44
Detroit is in cap hell.

A few of their bad contracts include;

- Darren Helm
- Justin Abdelkader
- Jimmy Howard
- Jonathan Ericsson
- Johan Franzen

They also have some decent players who make too much, over too much time:

- Niklas Kronwall
- Danny DeKeyser
- Mike Green
- Frans Nielsen

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The team needs to understand that they need to rebuild, and start dumping these anchor contracts. By the end of this year, a few of these should be moved; as hard as it may be. Some may need to be traded for other anchor contracts, but those at less term.

Couple of trade ideas:

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Carl Soderberg to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Justin Abdelkader and a 2018 2nd Round Pick and a 2019 3rd Round Pick,

Both are anchors, but I believe that Abdelkader brings more value than Soderberg. Abdelkader has been good before, but his contract is bad. They are about the same contract dollar value, but Abdelkader has three extra years. that's why the second is involved. If Abdelkader turns himself around this year (something that most likely won't happen with Soderberg), the Avs may be able to retain money and deal him to a willing team) .

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Gustav Nyquist and Jonathan Ericsson and Johan Franzen and a 2018 3rd Round Pick to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Erik Gudbranson and Derek Dorsett.

Gudbranson in exchange for Nyquist and Ericsson and 3rd.
Dorsett in exchange for Franzen.

Detroit unloads a ton of cap (4 for Gustav, 4 for Ericsson, 3 for Johan) and takes only 5 between Gudbranson and Dorsett. Obviously they lose Nyquist, which is big, but they unload a lot of cap. Plus, they get Gudbranson, who they may trade at the deadline for some sort of value. Nyquist is worth more than him, and that is how Ericssons contract balances the weight out.

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Frans Nielsen to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Tomas Plekanec and Jacob De La Rose.

Frans Nielsen is OBVIOUSLY much better than Plekanec. However, Nielsen has an ENORMOUS contract ahead. However, due to his skill set and Montreals need for a decent centre (Nielsen scored 40 last year and could bounce up to 50). Trading him now would be the best bet for Detroit, as he is not considered to be an anchor of a contract. If they were to keep him, his contract may only get worse and worse. By making this deal, Montreal takes an incredible risk, as they bank on Nielsen staying healthy and good for at least the next three-four seasons.

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Mike Green and Darren Helm to the Las Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for Luca Sbisa and a 2018 5th Round Pick.

Green is a better dman than Sbisa, however, Helm WILL become a cap dump within his current contract. Green could be traded for a 1st at the deadline (if he produces), so that will make the trade worth it for Vegas. Sbisa isn't much honestly, but he may get like a 3rd/ 4th at the deadline.

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Idk. Something needs to give for Detroit. Are one or two of these deals plausible? Cause I do know that they all won't happen. But a few ARE possible. Idk.

28 Aug 2017 21:53:36
I see the trade with montreal possible, but idk what Nielsens contract looks like. but the other 3 trades are with teams that are in somewhat the same position as Detroit in terms of rebuilding, why would they want to take on bad contracts like these?

28 Aug 2017 23:36:06
Wow no from Vancouver, we don't want useless players in Ericsson and Franzen, just stop doing Canucks trades please. Also Soderberg is as much of a cap dump as abdelkader at this point, kinda useless trade.

30 Aug 2017 16:04:21
Well, for starters Johan is going on LTIR every year so you aren't getting anything for him and he's not really a hit on cap. For a rebuilding team, you don't really want to be giving up assets to unload bad contracts, in fact its likely the opposite. Look at what Arizona has been able to do. The beauty of rebuilding is you can wait out the bad deals because you don't need to gve anyone big raises, rebuilding teams shouldn't be giving up 2nds to dump a few extra years on a deal, wait to move the deal until you have to and wear down the negative value.

28 Aug 2017 05:40:11
VAN: CECI

OTT: TANEV

28 Aug 2017 21:35:00
Could this work?

28 Aug 2017 21:47:04
I can't see Ottawa doing this trade. Ceci was one of the guys they protected from Vegas at the expense of methot. if the sens were going to shop ceci, the time to do it was before the expansion draft imo.

28 Aug 2017 23:36:57
Ceci isn't that good guys, like I don't see the big deal about him. He's like Beaulieu sorta. Tanev could get more.

29 Aug 2017 01:41:40
Tanevs not that great either, check the stats.

29 Aug 2017 09:07:58
Yup, Tanev sucks because he's a defensive player and a stay at home dman, all about the points, espiscally for defencemen.

06 Sep 2017 04:57:53
Ceci might not be the best bit he is definitely better and worth more than tanev. Plus his potential is still there too at a young age. Only way he moves is if he's in a package for a star player, like say duchesne or Tavares. You can say that will never happen all you want but fact is, the real nhl is not like xbox1 or ps4, unreal trades happen all the time whether fans like it or not. Tavares not signing before this coming trade deadline will drop his value and duchesne value has been dropping by the day thanks to insane asking price and his desire to play elsewhere. I'd be shocked if either get full value in return.

28 Aug 2017 01:57:56
canucks: sedien sedien
Montreal: Gallagher 3rd thoughts?

28 Aug 2017 05:08:00
Remember the cap.

01 Sep 2017 02:14:38
I was thinking canucks retain some salary like 25 percent on each.

02 Sep 2017 09:31:31
They have 2/ 3 contracts retained already, on top of that the Sedins are never getting traded. They're retiring Canucks.

24 Aug 2017 13:34:46
Montreal: Sherback, Lindgren, plekanec, 2 x 2nd round pic 2018,

Vancouver: H.Sedin, Daniel Sedin

24 Aug 2017 16:39:04
I think if Canucks trade the Twins it should be to an actual contender not pretenders, I'd rather not have Plekanec back at all unless we could flip him for a pick/ prospect right after.

24 Aug 2017 19:34:50
Van would have to take back a big cap. It's not that bad but I don't think that would be enough to make van do it.

24 Aug 2017 21:10:09
Plekanec is 6M on cap space but you only pay him 5 m this year.

24 Aug 2017 03:55:21
Since neither of the 2 guy said have been re-signed yet how bout this

Vancouver: David Pastrnak

Boston: Bo Horvat.

24 Aug 2017 09:32:39
Pasta>Horvat. Imo.


Plus, Boston has way too many centres. Bergy, Krejci and Spooner as 1/ 2/ 3 + Backes on the wing can play centre,

24 Aug 2017 13:23:11
Not a chance from Boston. Pasta is exactly what they need and Horvat is good but not good enough to land him.

24 Aug 2017 14:59:56
Horvat is a good all round player but don't think he has or ever will have the same game breaker ability that Pasternak does. Vancouver would need to add for sure. Only way Canucks don't add is if it's a sign and trade both ways and Pasternak is getting a way bigger deal, for instance if he's demanding 8x8 in Boston and they could have horvat for 6 or 7 years at 4.5-5 which isn't going to happen.

24 Aug 2017 15:26:27
Would love this! Bruins are brutal for trading top end talent away. Kessel, seguin, Hamilton.

24 Aug 2017 17:44:52
Love Horvat and would hate to see him get traded but agreed with comments above, Nucks defs add. Horvat will be a great two way C but Pasta is already a 30 goal scorer. Do the Bruins need more C's anyways? Seems they're pretty set down the middle for the next few years with Bergeron, Krejci, and Spooner (if not traded) also got Forsbacka-Karlsson who is looking like the Swedish Patrice Bergeron and Czarnik (who should be a regular this year)

25 Aug 2017 01:18:23
Horvat all day!

23 Aug 2017 15:32:51
How about Ottawa sends Logan Brown and a 2nd to Vancouver for Jake virtanen and Michael dipietro? Who adds? Or is this not even close, thanks!

23 Aug 2017 17:50:55
I don't know enough about Dipietro but I do know that Ottawa values Brown quite high so I don't see this happening.

24 Aug 2017 03:34:14
ya no thx. virtanen is a bust and Brown is better than dipietro.

02 Sep 2017 09:34:29
How can a player be a bust at 21? He's had an off year, he's bound to recover if you looked into it. He's trained harder than anyone on the Canucks, harder than any of their prospects. He's gotten huge, if you compare that to the slump he was last year there's a 50/ 50 he's making the NHL.

21 Aug 2017 18:40:20
OTT: Tanev, DiPietro, 2nd round pick

VAN: Chabot

Thoughts?

21 Aug 2017 20:48:02
LOL. Ottawa laughs at you.

22 Aug 2017 01:46:04
Not a chance Chabot goes! Also can't see Ottawa being interested in tanev.

20 Aug 2017 09:08:24
OTT: Logan Brown
VAN: Thatcher Demko, 3rd

Ottawa gets their future goalie

Vancouver gets their C of the future

Brown is younger, the third should make up for the difference.

20 Aug 2017 16:33:40
I'd say no from the Canucks just cause I really believe Demko will become a great goalie, and because there were a lot of concerns about Brown going into his draft year.

20 Aug 2017 16:41:09
Sounds fairly even to me. although as a sens fan, I don't know enough about demko to consider him a future nhl starter. if you put him in training camp in the fall, would he even out play 3rd string driedger? Seems like a bit of a gamble with an asset.

20 Aug 2017 19:01:45
What a future star Goalie for a top 6 center.

20 Aug 2017 19:26:20
Canucks wouldn't do this. Demko is the future of the canucks in net, they aren't giving that up unless they're getting a shitton in return, Demko is did better than Cory Schneider in College, that's very imressive. Demko's second half of the season was very impressive after the leap to the AHL, Next year he should be the AHL starter and potentially lead Utica to the playoffs. The Canucks organization wouldn't give up on someone like this.

20 Aug 2017 19:36:05
Omg no way from Vancouver, Demko is one of the last players Van would consider moving and has more value then Brown straight up and you have Van adding? Lol. Don't you guys have Hogberg in the SHL?

21 Aug 2017 00:17:34
Demko is the only goalie we really have. I don't have much faith in Markstrom. If we would have more depth in net I'd do it.

21 Aug 2017 07:22:19
Add in Thomas chabot and then it’s a fair deal.

21 Aug 2017 13:28:45
Okay I am on-board with almost every comment until AO99 here. Add in Chabot? That's like Ottawa telling Vancouver to add in Juolevi+ on this deal. Stupidity.

16 Aug 2017 02:59:36
Wild thought but

Tampa Bay acquires:
-D Sedin
-H Sedin

Vancouver acquires:
-1st round pick 2018
-Callan Foote

Lightning get solid scorers to help with a possible cup run. Canucks ship off the Sedin's to the Eastern Conference and acquire a late 1st as well as a top 4/6 D prospect for their future since their D core is looking pretty bad.

16 Aug 2017 05:47:59
Theres a small thing called salary cap.

16 Aug 2017 06:28:28
1. No thanks
2. Cap.

16 Aug 2017 13:42:20
Over pay because they're falling off and only going to get worse. They were great players, but that's behind them. Also I'm you're sending $850k (if foote even signed his ELC, not sure he did) and taking on near $15 mill I believe on a team that is already making side deals like garrison with vegas ans filpula at last deadline to shed salary.

16 Aug 2017 15:47:05
Yeah that makes sense. I didn't really think about the salary cap.

15 Aug 2017 03:49:16
Boston: pastranak
Canucks: goldobin and gudbrandson

Sedien-sedien-boesr
baertchi- horvat-Erickson
Granlund- sutter- goldobin


Edler-Tanev.

15 Aug 2017 14:34:00
I know Boston has a history of trading talented 21 year old forwards (Kessel+Seguin) but trading a guy who got 70 points for an unproven rookie and a middle pairing dman is suicide for the Bruins GM.

15 Aug 2017 20:26:25
@McRazzle I agree but rumours flying that Bruins are open to shopping Pasta, would need more then this 100p tho.

05 Aug 2017 10:02:26
JVR, Marincin
for
Tanev, 4th-2017

Canucks get scoring help now and those 2 contracts off the books next year, or flip JVR at trade deadline for prospects

Marchenko
for
4th-2018

A trade to a team looking for depth

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Hyman
Smith

Rielly-Tanev
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Carrick
Rosen

Andersson-McElhinney

Not Cup contenders yet but pretty damn close

05 Aug 2017 11:09:45
Your reasoning behind the Vancouver trade is they get help now and that there expiring contracts, is that really the direction there going in?

27 Jul 2017 20:14:39
VAN: DeAngelo, miller

NYR: tanev, sutter

28 Jul 2017 06:41:13
Thoughts?

28 Jul 2017 12:32:38
No from NYR. They just acquired DeAngelo and he's looking like he could be a real solid Dman for them. And Miller is worth way more than Sutter.

28 Jul 2017 20:06:01
I'm a Nucks fan but hell no from NYR.
JT Miller is the best player in this trade and Tanev doesn't really help NYR.

28 Jul 2017 20:15:36
Rangers need the offence of DeAngelo. Miller is expendable since the Rangers just drafted Lias Andersson.

29 Jul 2017 18:53:28
Why does drafting an 18 year old make a 24 year old center with back to back 22 goal, 45-55 pt seasons expendable today? Best players on rangers (lundqvist, McDonough, zuccarello, Nash, krrider) are 26-35years old. More important to be good now then in 3 years when Andersson can make a big impact and the rest are gone or on the way out. Lundqvist isn't going to be great forever.

16 Jul 2017 07:22:16
I know this is a long shot but...

Vancouver trades: Henrik Sedin(25% retained), Ben Hutton.

Mtl trades: Plekanec, 2018 1st, Jacob de la rose.

Don't really know what Sedin's value should be at since Vancouver clearly can't contend for Stanley cup also MTL will get a good C and will give a chance for Horvat to play 1C.


Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Drouin
Lehkonen-Sedin-Gallagher
Byron-Danault-Shaw
Huron-Mitchell-Hemsky

Hutton-Weber
Alzner-Petry
Schlemko-Benn

16 Jul 2017 08:36:33
So a 2C and top pairing D for a cap dump, late 1st and DLR?

16 Jul 2017 09:25:31
ben hutton is a top pairing D? they are only using him in a top pairing role, lol Toronto used Hunwick in a top pairing role the whole of the 15/ 16 season, that doesn't make him a top pairing dman.

Not enough from montreal anyways.

16 Jul 2017 15:37:25
Calling Ben Hutton a top pair d is a joke. That's like saying habs will give you back philip Danault and call him a '#1 centre'.

16 Jul 2017 19:13:31
Sedin is 36 and a ufa after a year.

17 Jul 2017 05:46:12
Hutton doesn't play top pairing, other than in his rookie season when he played a out 8 games on 1St pair due to several injuries.
Hutton is a 3rd pairing at best.

18 Jul 2017 09:45:41
love the trade, here is the problem. you will need to take both sedins, vancouver will have eat one of the twins salary for this to happen.

14 Jul 2017 07:08:43
Vancouver: Mathew Barzal

NY Islanders: Chris Tanev, Jordan Subban.

14 Jul 2017 07:33:07
No from the Isles.

13 Jul 2017 15:31:04
3 Team Trade
T.O-Van-NYI

Van gets-HoSang.J, Pulock.R
T.O gets Tanev.C
NYI gets JVR

Islanders get extra scoring to help convince Tavares to resign
Canucks get 2 good prospects to help the restock(rebuild)
Leafs get a good shut down dman

Leivo.J, Marincin.M
for
Morin.S, 4th DP

Resign
Brown.C 2 yrs - $3mil

Lupul.J, Horton.N on LITR

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Hyman

Gardiner-Zaitsev
Reilly-Tanev
Hainsey-Carrick

13 Jul 2017 16:08:53
The islanders get hosed in this trade and take more then jvr to get tanev.

13 Jul 2017 20:03:20
Lol at the islanders giving up pulock and ho sang for JVR. Not a chance especially when he has 1 year left.

13 Jul 2017 20:14:40
Needs wise it works all the way around. But isles isn't paying that for jvr without an extension in place at a good number.

14 Jul 2017 00:58:04
Pretty awful for islanders.

14 Jul 2017 07:34:53
gotta be a nucks fan. BJ?

 
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