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13 Apr 2019 18:31:12
Canucks trade: Tanev, Leivo

Oilers trade: Benning, Lucic, 1st round pick (8th overall)

Canucks get #8 and #10

13 Apr 2019 19:27:41
That’s interesting.

13 Apr 2019 19:36:26
Oilers don't include benning then or oilers do not make that.

13 Apr 2019 20:32:01
Honestly, that’s pretty good. The Canucks have enough top 6 defensemen though so maybe take out Benning and Leivo, make it just Tanev for Lucic and the 1st? Or maybe keep Leivo in, idk.

13 Apr 2019 21:12:35
I do not understand. Top 6 defensemen? But there are only six. How can there be a top 6 or a bottom 6?

13 Apr 2019 23:20:18
Top six as in the 3rd pairing, just as top four means the second pairing and top 2 refers to the first pairing. I don’t know why you’re on a hockey site if you don’t even understand basic terminology like that.

14 Apr 2019 02:16:13
Zamboni is English your first language.

14 Apr 2019 14:19:53
That’s not even enough to dump Lucic. Lucic carry’s the biggest negative value in the game.

15 Apr 2019 15:03:57
Vertius you don't have to be rude like that he was just asking a question maybe he sees he differently and that's fine. Try to keep it positive.

15 Apr 2019 14:59:57
It doesn’t not matter Mr. McSmartyPants if English is my first language. No. Saying Top 6 defenseman is like saying top 12 forward. It does not make sense. Top means the best, a few select players off the entire team. Saying top 6 means the best 6, which is all the defensemen on the team. Of course he is top 6. All defensemen playing on the team are top 6, yes. He does not make sense. I understand English very good.

15 Apr 2019 21:56:28
You understand very good yes.

16 Apr 2019 13:21:45
Veritus, I have been following hockey since 1970 and never have I heard of the defense being refered to as top 6.
Also as a long suffering Canucks, who are these "Top 6" defensemen that you say the Canucks have?

16 Apr 2019 15:40:02
I agree with Zamboni. never heard of the term top 6 when it comes to defensive lines. always referenced pairings. Also, English may not be his first language, but we understand everything he is discussing and it is a hell of a lot better than my second language. I believe he has mentioned he is in Europe but follows the NHL and primarily the Oilers.

16 Apr 2019 20:53:25
Just like you can understand what he’s saying, he can understand what he meant by top 6 D. Bit of a weird term but I’ve definitely heard it. Let it slide man.

16 Apr 2019 23:55:43
Jeez, should I draw a picture for you all?

D1-D2 = Top 2 defenseman/ pairing 1
D3-D4 = Top 4 defenseman/ pairing 2
D5-D6 = Top 6 Defenseman/ pairing 3

I mean come on, this really isn’t that hard. Instead of talking about ‘how long you’ve been following hockey’ for Renidrag or ‘how good your English is’ Zamboni - which I hate to break it to you, isn’t good at all - you both should try actually listening to some games cause clearly you don’t know as much as you think you do if you don’t even know basic terms like that.

17 Apr 2019 08:19:28
My 2 cents, you could say top 6 defenseman because that means he's in the lineup. He could of said 7th defenseman would mean watching from the press box most nights waiting for injuries.

13 Apr 2019 04:21:30
Montreal trades: Armia, Brook

Vancouver trades: Leivo, Hutton, 4th round pick 2019

13 Apr 2019 05:09:24
No thanks from Vancouver.

13 Apr 2019 05:28:06
A huge no thanks from Montreal.

13 Apr 2019 16:13:32
No thanks. I'm think Armia Is going to be a solid player, as well Brook had top 4 potential.

13 Apr 2019 18:13:10
No thanks from Vancouver? Are you that biased? Vancouver runs with that and never looks back. Mtl says no. Even if you had Juolevi from Van mtl still says no.

13 Apr 2019 20:37:36
Biased? No. I just know a bad deal when I see it, Armia is a 3rd liner at best which is what Leivo already is, and Brook is a top6 defenseman at best, exactly what Hutton already is. No thanks.

13 Apr 2019 21:16:03
But all defensemen are top 6, yes? Where in the top 6 are these guys going to play? I believe is bad trade for Montreal. Armia and Brook are better players, yes.

13 Apr 2019 22:43:59
Zamboni, the defensemen are generally ranked
Top 2
Top 4
Top 6


So a top 6 is usually a bottom pairing defenseman.

14 Apr 2019 05:30:35
In zamboni defence I always called it top pair, 2nd pair and bottom pair when talking about defence men. Not top 6.

14 Apr 2019 16:10:34
Hopefully a team doesn't dress 7 Dmen. or we have a real issue.

15 Apr 2019 03:44:40
Yes Sosa then they all become top 7 Dmenlol.

15 Apr 2019 15:05:25
Armia would be top 6 in Vancouver.

15 Apr 2019 15:08:11
Yes, Mr. Habby. You understand very good what I mean. Defensemen are list 1/ 2;3/ 4;5/ 6. Is top 2 is 1/ 2. Is top 4 is 1/ 2 and 3/ 4. Is top 6 is 1/ 2&3/ 4&5/ 6. Is all defensemen. Top 2 is only the first line. Top 6 is everyone. I do not understand Mr Vertius and his language. How can he use top 6 for only the bottom pairing? No. It does not make sense. It is not me. No. My English is very good, yes.

13 Apr 2019 01:37:31
Canucks trade: 1st rounder 2019, Baertschi, Leivo, Juolevi, Goldobin, 2nd round pick 2020


Devils trade: 1st overall 2019, Coleman


Anything for Hughes Pettersson Boeser line

13 Apr 2019 03:10:25
Not even close it’s be Horvat/ Boeser And the 1st+.

13 Apr 2019 03:13:16
Aren't all three of those guys natural centers? Anyway no way the top 2 picks get traded. They should be franchise players. Think youd have to start with 2 1st roundersand add from there.

03 Apr 2019 04:33:57
Hurricanes trade: Ferland, Fox

Canucks trade: 1st round pick 2019!

03 Apr 2019 05:23:34
No from Vancouver. Ferland will want too much for an extension and I don’t know enough about Fox to trade him for a lottery pick. Not to mention Fox is an RFA in the off-season, no guarantee he signs with us. Definitely not worth a first.

03 Apr 2019 17:43:51
If I was a GM of a lottery pick team, I'd never trade a 1st. maybe once the draw has been done. then ya know your value.
Even a team you forecast struggling a couple seasons. in a rebuild. wouldn't trade a 1st. look at Sens. going to miss really good chance at 2 highly talented players.

04 Apr 2019 15:31:19
So basically two UFAs for a 1st?

08 Apr 2019 10:09:20
Vancouver picks in top 5.
Ferland is UFA
And Fox another UFA is refusing to sign in Carolina after remaining unsigned by Calgary. Fox won't leave Harvard until he can sign with the NYR.

02 Apr 2019 04:15:56
Carolina receives: 2nd round pick 2019, 5th round pick 2019

Canucks receive: Fox

02 Apr 2019 07:26:47
Fox is looking like he'll be a really good defencemen. i'd say carolina declines

02 Apr 2019 17:18:31
But the problem is if he wants to sighn with Carolina. If fox doesn’t want to sighn the I’d take it.

08 Apr 2019 10:14:48
Fox hasn't signed with Carolina....
Didnt sign with Calgary....
Why would you waste picks on him..
If he won't play for western canadian calgary what makes you think he signs with Van?
He is holding out to sign with hometown NYR.
Born NY. Went to Harvard.

25 Mar 2019 22:42:10
Canucks trade: Baertschi, Goldobin, 2nd round pick 2020

Avalanche trade: Timmins, andrighetto


If Canucks could do something to get timmins... and Byram

Hughes Timmins
Byram Woo
Juolevi Stetcher

Would be a great D core

26 Mar 2019 02:27:59
That’ll be a great d core in like 5 years when they are all proven dmen yup. As for the trade I can’t see Colorado accepting that.

26 Mar 2019 17:38:54
Colorado needs D I don't see them trading Timmons.

26 Mar 2019 20:47:27
Barrie zadorov girard Makar.

28 Mar 2019 11:23:25
Colorado hangs up.

28 Mar 2019 16:13:09
I don’t like it from Van. Beartschi can be a 60 point 2nd liner EASY if he can stay healthy, we need Seconds and Goldy is whatever. Anyways, I personally wouldn’t give up Bear and a Second for Timmons and Andri.

28 Mar 2019 23:36:47
Baertschi has never got more than 40 points in his CAREER and has never played more than 70 games lol how does he get 60 easily even if he's healthy?

03 Mar 2019 18:01:11
Offseason trade:

Devils:
-Will Butcher (RFA)
-2019 2nd rd. pick (via BOS)

Canucks:
-Olli Juolevi

Devils get a bigger body to put on their d-core; Nucks get the more established player

03 Mar 2019 20:09:58
I personally don’t think Juolevi can get that in return. Too much. Butcher’s a 40 point dman and that looks like it’ll be a high 2nd, Juolevi is not that good imo and from what I’ve heard from people who’ve played against him. Soft.

03 Mar 2019 20:27:45
^why would boston's 2nd be high? do you know something we don't.

03 Mar 2019 20:36:27
No from Van, I don’t think we should give up on Juolevi yet, he had a great start to the year before his injury. It’s a good idea though.

04 Mar 2019 01:08:11
My bad pav didn’t realize it was Boston’s, in that case, still no from New Jersey.

08 Mar 2019 15:19:30
Juolevi is no good and now he’s hurt. Why waste assets on someone that may never even play nhl full time. If anything the pick goes to Jersey. And they still say no.

23 Feb 2019 16:45:04
Since everyone is basing trades on Duchene return for stone here's one.

Ott : stone, Paul

Van : 2019 1st, conditional 2020 1st (based on if stone resigns or if Vancouver makes conference finals this year), dahlen, woo

Or

Ott : stone, dzingle, Paul

Vancouver : Hughes, dahlen, 2019 1st (top 3 protected), 2020 2nd, and a conditional 2020 1st (same condition as above)

1st trade has no protection on the gaurenteed pick.

23 Feb 2019 17:09:43
Oh boy. This trade proposal really overvalues Stone and Dzingle. Vancouver is building the right way, by draft and develop and won't give up their future for a quick fix.

23 Feb 2019 18:35:54
Why doesnadding dzingel suddenly equate to quinn f***ing hughes? And the first ones okay, i guess, i don't think Vancouvers in the same boat as CBJ to be giving up two 1sts and Dahlen/ Woo, maybe the conditional 1st becomes a conditonal 2nd.

First trade is alri, probably not the right fit in VAN, second is a def nogo.

23 Feb 2019 18:36:58
Islandjet, exactly how to you figure it overvalued stone and dzingle?

Stone alone is worth more than Duchene, and look at what Duchene got (a guaranteed 1st in the same shape as Vancouver currently, a conditional first based upon a resign of Duchene and 2 b prospects), while dzingle alone at least gets a first based on what Hartman got last year, plus you still have Paul (a B prospect) involved too.

You need to reevaluate your value rankings.

Stone and Paul get you Hughes and the guaranteed 1st no doubt while dzingle easily lands the conditional 1st and dahlen
And the other deal is a no brainer that it's value is there. You're not getting a top 5 defensive forward in today game cheap, that's a fact and stone is just that signed or not. Naturally I'd prefer Ottawa just smarten up and sign him but this kind of deal is doable.

23 Feb 2019 18:43:13
Oh and plus Vancouver needs good veteran leadership to help their young guys along, stone and dzingle both provide that and are young enough yet themselves that they can grow with the team too.

Petterson boeser and stone leadings the way those kids will be even better with stones help no doubt plus dzingle Horvat and what ever on second line, yeah I highly doubt this hurts their future more than it helps it.

And the condition of the one pick in both trades plus the top 3 protection in the other trade further benefits Vancouver.

23 Feb 2019 19:16:23
A team trading for Stone is looking to make a push. You can add McDavid to Vancouver and they still wouldn’t be a contender.

23 Feb 2019 19:49:09
NBR. The first trade was fine-ish. Problem is, Vancouver isn't a contender. They shouldn't be making that type of move.

Second trade is not fine. You basically say that Stone is worth Woo, Dahlen, 1st, Cond. 1st based on resigning, which may be excessive, but sure, for you, let's say its fair [Paul doesn't mean s*** in the grand scheme of anything]. Then you throw in Dzingel, take out Woo and add Hughes. Dzingel doesn't get you Hughes, end of story.

23 Feb 2019 23:38:40
Vancouver is not going to sell out their future for a couple rentals. They are still in early stages of rebuild and not contenders.

24 Feb 2019 06:32:00
Vancouver is only 6 points out of a 1st wild card spot, a trade like this absolutely gives them a shot at big playoff run and the difference between woo and Hughes coupled with the top 3 protection placed on the guaranteed 1st then yeah adding dzingle does equal that trade off, face it quinn is no jack.

24 Feb 2019 14:41:34
Dzignel got 2 seconds, not Hughes, ha.

24 Feb 2019 16:54:15
And duclair, either way nothing posted on this site ever happens anyway it's all hypothetical.

And the fact is, I was not saying to simply add dzingle and Hughes.

You said yourself the 1st trade was fair, all I did was take out a B+ prospect in woo, replace him with and a- minus prospect in hughes thus adding a little value to Vancouver side. I also put top 3 protection on the guaranteed 1st thus taking value away. And added a 2nd for a little value added.

On top of that I added dzingle to the Ottawa side for a decent value increase on the Ottawa side.

Basically the 2nd and the top 3 protection aspects cancel each other out making the value of dzingle pay for a small increase in a slightly more skilled prospect, like I said before Quinn is good. But he's no jack Hughes and not gods gift to hockey like you're making him out to be. A 40 to 50 point speedy top 6 forward should more than easily make up the difference between jet woo and Quinn Hughes no questions asked, and I say the difference because that's what it is. Their not being added straight up for each other in this scenario.

24 Feb 2019 20:13:16
Quinn Hughes is not an A-, he's an A prospect. Jett Woo is a b Prospect. there's a reason why Hughes was top 8 and Woo was a mid second rounder. Come on man.

25 Feb 2019 05:18:32
Quin is not an A prospect, he's and A- at the absolute best, did you seriously just say that? Jack is an A prospect and Quinn not on same level, feel your head dude, there's a big difference between the two. And woo is B+ not b prospect, Paul is a B prospect and woo is better than Paul.

10 Feb 2019 02:04:56
Press go all in this year

NSH: Fabbro

VAN: Edler (50% retained) and Sutter

NSH takes on just slightly less than 7M in cap and give away 667k to make things work out. Nashville goes all in and have 3 really good left handed D that can play in any situation at any moment and allows hamhuis to be the 7th dman rather than play every game. And Nashville also upgrades they’re 3rd line center who in sutter can be relied to kill penalties and win face offs. Canucks get Nashville’s best or maybe 2nd best prospect but Nashville greatly improves they’re depth for a deep playoff push.

10 Feb 2019 05:10:58
As a Canucks fan I’d love this, but I think Nash would want more.

10 Feb 2019 16:50:16
An injury prone pending UFA and an injury prone overpaid bottom six forward for a highly ranked potential top line defender is not going to happen.

01 Feb 2019 16:47:39
edm: spooner

columbus: duclair


edm: tabot

florida: luongo (retain 2mil )


edm: manning

van: gagner ( retain 1 mil )

01 Feb 2019 17:57:58
would be bombssss.

01 Feb 2019 20:41:10
Spooner has no value. He cleared waivers where any team could get him for free.

31 Jan 2019 00:46:53
Canucks D Chris Tanev and fw jake virtanen and fw goldy plus or 2ed round pick in 2019 for Toronto for D jake gardiner and fw kasperi kapanen and young D rasmus sandin and canucks 1st round pick in 2020.

31 Jan 2019 09:03:46
The Toronto forward can really help Elias pettersson out on scoring.

31 Jan 2019 13:23:11
Tanev and Goldobin for Gardiner, Kapanen, Sandin and a 1st? Lol no from Toronto. We got a better version of Tanev for half that price.

31 Jan 2019 13:41:21
This is really bad. Toronto would never consider this.

30 Jan 2019 23:58:27
Canucks trade d olli juolevi and f goldy and 2ed round pick 2019 for Boston bruins young d Charlie McAvoy and C Jakob karlsson and Charlie McAvoy and D Quinn Hughes would be awesome together.

31 Jan 2019 00:24:47
Ya Boston laughs at you.

31 Jan 2019 14:02:49
Not even close to a chance.

30 Jan 2019 17:44:54
Oilers: ryan spooner

Vancouver: Sam Gagner

30 Jan 2019 18:26:43
i know where you read that, and as well as the person who wrote it tried to convince us that this would be a good idea i honestly think i'd rather keep spooner or try to trade him off for something other than gagner.

31 Jan 2019 00:13:10
Boston bruins d Charlie mcavoy and C Jakob karlsson for canucks D olli juolevi and f goldy and or 2ed round pick 2019 and or 1st round pick in 2020. Charlie McAvoy and Quinn Hughes would be awesome together both young and have a lot of skill.

27 Jan 2019 10:15:49
Edmonton - Andrej Sekera + 2019 2nd-Round Pick
Tampa Bay - Ryan Callahan

Edmonton - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Anaheim - Josh Manson + 2019 2nd-Round Pick

Edmonton - Jesse Puljujärvi + 2019 1st-Round Pick + Ethan Bear
New York - Mats Zuccarello

Edmonton - Milan Lucic + 2020 2nd-Round Pick + Matt Benning
Vancouver - Loui Erikkson




Mats Zuccarello - Connor McDavid - Loui Eriksson
Jujhar Khaira - Leon Draisaitl - Alex Chiasson
Kailer Yamamoto - Colby Cave - Ryan Callahan
Ryan Spooner - Kyle Brodziak - Zack Kassian

Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson
Darnell Nurse - Josh Manson
Kris Russell - Alex Petrovic

27 Jan 2019 17:03:18
Puljujarvi, bear and a 1st for a 31 year old UFA.

27 Jan 2019 21:05:54
1st trade is a no because Anaheim doesn't have the cap space.

2nd trade is a no because Edmonton doesn't have the cap space.

3rd trade is a no because neither team has a need/ want for the players (s) coming back in return.

26 Jan 2019 17:28:06
Canucks: Markstrom, Baertschi, 3rd round pick 2019

Hurricanes: Ferland, Mrazek, 1st round pick 2019


What do you guys think about this one? Good for both teams?

26 Jan 2019 18:21:38
Whys Carolina giving a first.

26 Jan 2019 22:13:34
It's good for 1 team I'll let the comments tell you which one.

27 Jan 2019 00:18:14
Bentley you’re 0/5 so far.

25 Jan 2019 05:56:45
Colorado trades: Timmins

Canucks trade: Gaudette

25 Jan 2019 06:20:05
No from colorado

25 Jan 2019 17:19:10
No from Vancouver.

25 Jan 2019 05:21:48
Canucks: Baertschi, Dipietro, Dahlen

Hurricanes: Ferland, Hamilton

25 Jan 2019 05:41:13
Bad move for Vancouver to move dipietro that early imo, but besides that no from canes.

25 Jan 2019 06:20:42
I agree with mcjesus

24 Jan 2019 20:55:50
Minor deal:

Jets - S. Gagner (Canucks retain half of next years 3.15m salary)

Canucks - 6th rounder in 2021

Jets sign both of D. Winnik and K. Bieksa as free agents.

Both Winnik and Bieksa would come very cheap as both played excellent for Team Canada at the Spengler Cup.

Sam Gagner is another veteran individual who needs a change of scenery and can put the puck in the net. Doing extremely well with the Marlies.

24 Jan 2019 22:52:53
Canucks could get a better return for that kind of salary retention

24 Jan 2019 23:08:24
No thanks from Winnipeg. Don't want to waste cap space on any of those guys.

25 Jan 2019 17:43:15
These trades don”t really help the Jets.

21 Jan 2019 12:16:45
Canucks Hutton goldobin 4 Rd pick

Oiler Klefbom

21 Jan 2019 16:16:50
Totally will make Edmonton better 🙄 ugh.

16 Jan 2019 11:15:25
Cabucks jonah g erikson 3 Rd pick

Canes ferland


Canucks goldobin

Oiler 3 Rd pick

Canucks edler 3 Rd pick

Nsh fabbro

Ferland petterson boeser
Sven Horvat virtanen
Roussel sutter Levio
Granlund beagle motte

16 Jan 2019 15:02:15
so no.
yes.
huge no.

 
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