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23 Nov 2017 00:44:59


23 Nov 2017 03:35:57
God your trades are awfuls.

23 Nov 2017 05:06:23

22 Nov 2017 23:06:58
Canucks: gudbranson
Leafs: Liligren

Canucks need a good power play defence and to help joulevi and Toronto needs a big strong defence an to protect there young talent.

23 Nov 2017 00:29:49
Big no from leafs wth

23 Nov 2017 00:53:04
No no no no.

23 Nov 2017 01:08:00
Dont Need to trade a top prospect to get physical players
So Van cam dream on.

23 Nov 2017 02:59:48
No from Toronto. Easy no.

23 Nov 2017 03:18:15
Leafs aren't trading Liljegren anytime soon. he's a steal. And for that little (aging defenceman) keep dreaming

22 Nov 2017 15:02:58
Tor: weber
Mtl: marner + 5th 2018

Edm: price + galchenyuk
Mtl: RNH + nurse

Vegas: MCcarron + davidson + 2nd 2018 + 4th 2018
Mtl: perron

Col: pacioretty
Mtl: barrie

Drouin RNH marner
Lehky danault gally
Hudon pleky perron
Scherbak shaw byron

Barrie alzner
Nurse petry
Mete benn/morrow/schlemko

22 Nov 2017 15:21:26
No from tprnon first one, no from not on second one and no again from not on third lne.

22 Nov 2017 15:21:44
And the Colorado one is a massive no from mtl.

22 Nov 2017 17:32:00
All 3 trades lopsided in montreals favour.

22 Nov 2017 18:23:28
Are you surprised Facelift? Lol.

22 Nov 2017 08:31:39
A couple of Oilers trades:


Max Pacioretty + Brendan Gallagher to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins + Ryan Strome + 2018 1st Round Draft Pick (lottery protected for 2018; non-lottery protected for 2019) + 2019 2nd Round Pick.

Patches and Gallagher immediately become two of the best wingers on Edmonton. Drais can move back to centre, and the Oil can finally have spread-out offence.

As for Montreal, they get a 1st, which is a nice asset (in terms of future, and in terms of trade bait if need be), and RNH, who could be a nice first line centre, but if Montreal starts to fall back, then he can be a valuable trading asset come the deadline.


Kris Russell + Kailer Yamamoto to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for Travis Sanheim + Scott Laughton.

Philadelphia then sends Kris Russell (25% Retention) to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for Cody Franson and a 2018 2nd Round Pick.


This one probably won't sit well with Oil fans, and makes sense why. Yamamoto is promising, and has shown that he can possible be a good NHLer. However, I check nhl. com, and I saw that Edmonton's leading scorer for blueliners is Oscar Klefbom, with six point - and a minus ten rating, Yes, Sekera is out, but really, is he going to be that offensive blueliner? In my opinion, I don't see it that way. Sanheim is a quality blueliner, who, in the future, can be a nice offensive dman. Klefbom is more two-way, Adam Larsson is defensive, Darnell Nurse is defensive, Sekera is middling, and aging, and idk about Benning, but from his stats, he doesn't look like an offensive blueliner. Kris Russell is defensive, but with Nurse and Larsson being younger and most likely better, Russell can be expandable. Plus, with another blueline coming in, someone needs to be dropped.



Patrick Maroon - Connor McDavid - Brendan Gallagher
Max Pacioretty - Leon Draisaitl - Drake Caggiula
Milan Lucic - Mark Letestu - Michael Cammalleri
Jujhar Khaira - Scott Laughton - Zach Kassian

Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson
Travis Sanheim - Darnell Nurse
Matt Benning - Eric Gryba/ **Andrej Sekera

Cam Talbot
Laurent Brossoit

Yeah, its not ideal. But when you have only 50 goals through 20 games, somethings got to change. that's 30 goals behind Toronto, on 2 fewer games. I still believe that Edmonton has a better nucleus than Toronto, but the scoring needs to be there. And as much as many wouldn't want it, change needs to happen, cause Mike Cammalleri ain't going to magically score 20 goals.

And all four teams mentioned (Philly, Chicago, Montreal and Edmonton) need some sort of change. And this could help.

22 Nov 2017 08:50:38
You put a lot of thought into it and i like it but i don't think oilers will give up yamamoto for that when he's proved more than sanheim in such a short period. I would dangle yamamoto to carolina to pry one of their of defencemen as they are looking for forwards. Also maybe coyotes could be an ideal trading partner if oilers want wingers i'm sure they could pry Dulair or Reider out for a good price. Good post man

22 Nov 2017 15:07:01
They aren't trading Yamamoto for that. Lol.

22 Nov 2017 16:04:33
Nurse doesn't play the right side. Benning doesn't play the left side. Letestu isn't good enough for full time third line center. He's good for a few games fill in, but he's great at his full time fourth line center role with PP and PK time.

22 Nov 2017 08:21:38
Tor: Weber
Mtl: marner + 5th 2018

Col: Pacioretty + juulsen
Mtl: Barrie + 1st 2018 + 4th 2018

Edm: Price + Galchenyuk
Mtl: RNH + Nurse

Vegas: MCcarron + Davidson + 2nd 2018 + 5th 2018
Mtl: Perron

Drouin RNH marner
Lehky danault gally
Hudon pleky perron
Scherbak shaw byron

Barrie alzner
Nurse petry
Mete Benn/morrow/schlemko

Pretty reasonable trades, toronto gets top Dman and solves signing 3 young kids next season, colorado gets scoring winger and d prospect, edmonton gets needed goalie and winger, vegas get future help/ picks for rental. Thoughts?

22 Nov 2017 11:49:04
big no from tor.

22 Nov 2017 12:25:17
Np from mtl Marner is exactly what we don't need. Another fragile winger.

22 Nov 2017 14:44:56
1st trade- bad contract, Aging Dman for ELC player. Those three factors make it a no go.

2nd trad- close but at this point i highly doubt that Col who is retooling again will take an agin forward for Barrie and give up a lottery pick first.

3rd-Edm has a goalie and thier defense is the problem right now. Giving up a gritty dman for a struggling goalie and a struggling winger is not what edm needs.

4th-Vegas lacks scoring wingers and has a plethora of average dmen. If your trying to get perron think a 1st rnd pick.

22 Nov 2017 15:59:21
How is marner a fragile player? Lol have you ever watched him play? He doesn’t shy away because he’s scared, it’s called being elusive. Gaudreau and Kane don’t get hit much either. And he has been injured once in 2 seasons for 4 or 5 games.

22 Nov 2017 16:00:24
That shows how little you know goldennights. Nothing but your own team, and by a lot of your posts, I’m not really even sure of that.

22 Nov 2017 06:33:24
heard rumour that toronto has to re-up marner, nylander and matthews at the same time and they won't be able to afford everyone. what i heard was the person saying matthews would be traded. i thought this sounded really stupid and would be taking like 5 steps back, so eliminating matthews that would leave marner and nylander, i don't see either of them being traded but of the three (i personally wouldn't do it but) marner would likely be the one to go.

Toronto: Marner +2nd + Sosh
St Louis: Parayko?

too much? not enough?

22 Nov 2017 08:32:22
Why from St. Louis? Are they winning too many games, need to change things up? I like the talk of having 5 top 4 defenseman instead of trading a young gun.

22 Nov 2017 14:57:01
I have seen tons of threads on Parayko. The blues fans are not willing to trade Parayko for anything less than a vast overpayment. It would take Mathews to pry away Parayko. They acknowledge that Mathews is the Better player by far but are unwilling to part with Parayko. The Management Made a statement by trading shattenkirk. Darmstrong Said Parayko and Petro will be on the right side for many years to come.

To sum it up Parayko is not available unless you are offering a mathews type #1 center.

22 Nov 2017 15:11:24
STL is not trading Parayko. Don't even bother.

22 Nov 2017 17:05:16
Nylander needs a contract this year (marner and Mathews are next year) . Once Nylanders is done it will set the parameters for a marner deal. I believe both will sign for 6-8 years at 6-7 mill. Just too many comparisons in that range to demand much more (ehlers, pasternak, monahan, Gaudreau, mackinnon etc) . Matthews will sign whatever he wants much like mcdavid. I believe all 3 will be in Toronto for a long time. If they were to trade marner, parayko is definitely someone I would like back, but like pointed out above, makes zero sense for blues.

21 Nov 2017 19:05:20
Leafs: Marner

Rangers: Mac, 3rd, low end prospect.

21 Nov 2017 19:28:09
who? and no.

21 Nov 2017 19:40:54
Assuming that’s McDonough.

21 Nov 2017 21:04:14
I wouldn't give up McDonough for Marner tbh.

22 Nov 2017 01:25:15
Huge no from leafs McDonagh is to old Marner is 20 And a future 90 pt player.

21 Nov 2017 07:18:50
Vancouver: Chris Tanev

Toronto: Kaspari Kapanen, Travis Dermott and a 1st round pick.

21 Nov 2017 11:43:56
Way to much for tanev.

21 Nov 2017 14:57:16
I’d rather them do a smaller trade as a stop gap and buy some time to see what they have in liljegren, Dermott, Rosen and Nielsen than give up that much for tanev. In my opinion they should do that, or go all in on a legit stud Dman. But don’t think that trading 3 real good pieces for someone that isn’t a massive upgrade is the answer.

20 Nov 2017 23:44:19
Hearing that McDavid needs a winger and Toronto could be the place to find one.

EDM : William Nylander and Jake Gardiner

TOR: Darnell Nurse and Ryan Strome

Then Vegas and Toronto

VGN: Tyler Bozak and Calle Rosen

TOR: Colin Miller

21 Nov 2017 02:36:00
And you need conscience.

21 Nov 2017 02:37:54
Chiarelli has put Oilers in a hole
Toronto ain't helping Oilers out.

21 Nov 2017 03:15:27
Chiarelli isn't he problem at all. The players are underperforming. Don't try and deflect how terrible your GM has been.

21 Nov 2017 04:40:16
Seriously yup what are you talking about. Chiarelli is far worse than Bergevin
Chiarelli worsts moves:
-Hall for a super defensive dman
-Reinhart for Barzal + 2d

-Price 10.5 mil 8yrs
-Radulov and Markov'

Chiarelli did long terms mistakes that Bergevin didn't do

With a better GM. Oilers wouldn't be in that lack of wings if the kept Hall and Eberle. Could have become One of the most dangerous first line Hall McDavid Eberlee.

21 Nov 2017 05:14:25
KH: how is subban for weber and sergachev for drouin not mistakes?

21 Nov 2017 11:13:50
Keyhabs you're missing a few. subban, sergachev, andrighetto, beaulieu etc.

21 Nov 2017 11:33:45
Well Weber is an eating minutes Defense and Sergachev is playing with Kuch and Stamkos its not like Sergachev will have more points than Drouin at the end of the season.

21 Nov 2017 12:39:11
Why isn’t that possible? He has more points than drouin right now hahaha. He’s a defensemen not a forward, he’s not consistently playing with stammer and kuch, come on. Stop making excuses, mtl made a bad trade.

21 Nov 2017 14:37:20
I'm a habs fan. PC>MB.

21 Nov 2017 19:08:56
If you knew what you were talking about, they played Hall with McDavid first 30 some games and they had zero chemistry. Hall liked to run his own line and it just didn't work. Hall and Drai actually had really good chemistry.
So that line would never have happened. And it would not have been a great line because Eberlazy and Hall didn't play great defense and they both have zero grit for the corners, down low cycle and to protect McDavid when other teams go after him cause they know Hall and Eberle aren't going to do rubbish about it. That's why you see Maroon with him And the winger situation, They thought Puljujarvi would have been ready. But he had a terrible camp. Looks good now tho. Hopefully keeps it up and only gets better. PC hasn't put the team in a hole, the players are underperforming. In fact, PC actually traded a player playing terrible for a better player! That's a great move.
I'm not even going to point out all the terrible moves your GM has made that you purposely missed.
And your over exaggeration of others.

22 Nov 2017 08:24:59
Maybe the players were over performing last year. How the hell do you know?

22 Nov 2017 08:26:52
Bergevin has definitely made his mistakes and they’re paying for it now. On the other hand, the oilers have made some terrible moves since PC got there too. I was a big fan of him in Boston and thought he would be great there.

But that Lucic contract is atrocious, he never drafted draisatl, and Leon wanted 5years 5mill last off-season and PC bet against him, costing them 8x8.5 instead (much like Bergevins bridge deal with subban bit him in the a$$ when he won a Norris and got $72 mill) . He gets zero credit for mcdavid because someone who has never watched hockey would have picked him first and signed him to whatever contract he wanted. His trade for Reinhart gave the isles Beauvillier AND Barzal with his picks while Reinhart was exposed to Vegas and has cleared waivers twice since.

Hall for Larsson will be debated for a long time, I give him a pass on that because he got a really good player in a position they desperately needed, but trading eberle when his value was at his lowest and they didn’t need the cap space till Mcdavids deal kicks in next year is a mistake. Especially now when there’s rumours they’re going to give up assets for a skilled winger.

Fighting between those two GMs performance in the last cpl years is like fighting over who’s the taller midget.

22 Nov 2017 08:28:36
Agree with Turkey.
Hey there's a trade. Habs trade Bergevin and a pick.
We get Chiarelli, hope he speaks French cause that's the only prerequisite.

20 Nov 2017 19:59:04
Bob McKenzie is saying he's hearing possible talks happening between Toronto and Phoenix. OEL ha seemed to maybe expressed he won't be signing there after next season when he's an UFA. Nylander for OEL is what's mentioned by him.
Never know, It could happen. But I believe it's a true rumor that those two teams have had talks. I'm not sure if it's a rumor or suggestion Of those two names being talked.
I trust Mckenzie, Friedman, Dreger, Duthie the most in the hockey world. They are the most connected "inside". But a rumor and a suggestion are two completely different things.

Another suggestion was that Toronto and Vancouver are talking.
Possibly a Kappanen and 1st for Tanev or would a better prospect need to be.

I don't think these suggestions or tumors are far off.

20 Nov 2017 20:40:41
Wouldn't trade Nylander if I was Tor.

20 Nov 2017 20:47:08
Ya it's a tough one. I wouldn't either.
Even tho OEL is having a down year. It's on a rubbish team.
Only thing I would be worried about is what's his asking price when he's a UFA after next season?! I would want to have an idea of that, especially if I was to potentially give up Nylander for him.

Just remember, This post isn't my words. It's from
Bob McKenzies mouth about this "rumor"

20 Nov 2017 22:34:45
Bob Mckenzies article went on to say that he hasn't heard of any talks. And that he doesn't think the coyotes are interested in trading oel or that Toronto is interested in trading either if the big 3.
And he also said that they wouldn't move oel for a winger which is how they view nylander.

20 Nov 2017 23:22:24
No. He said that there are talks. Just not %100 what they are about.
Like i said. That's the rumor. And then the suggestion is it would take Nylander for OEL.
They need to trade OEL, He's not resigning there when he is a UFA after next season.
Rumors and suggestions are two different things, as I have repeadetly said.

20 Nov 2017 01:20:57
Montreal time for rebuild!

To Mtl: Jvr, Gardiner, Dermott/Kapanen and 2nd 2018 becomes 1st if Jvr don't signed.

To Tor: S.Weber





20 Nov 2017 01:54:48
WHy do the leafs give up that much for an aging defenseman with a horrible contract! Habs eat some salty to make it worth it. 25%.

20 Nov 2017 03:28:24
Wanna Weber. got to trade your 4 next 1st picks.

20 Nov 2017 03:30:14
And like the "excellent! " Bergevin says, you have to be two to dance.

20 Nov 2017 11:16:59
Hahahahaha weber equals 4 first rounders! Lok hahaha good one!

20 Nov 2017 18:35:46
Weber’s a great player. Don’t want him in Toronto with that contract unfortunately. He would be great to have for 3 years, then hurt the progress of the team after that. Habs can have him and price for the next 8 years while they hover around mediocrity.

19 Nov 2017 15:23:33
Theoretical trades for Top 3 D-Man to Toronto:

Leafs trade
James Van Riemsdyk
Kasperi Kapanen

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
Leafs trade
William Nylander
Rinat Valiev
2018 1st

Hurricanes trade
Justin Faulk
Leafs trade
Mitch Marner
Nikita Zaitsev

Flyers trade
Ivan Provorov
Leafs trade
Mitch Marner

Flames trade
Dougie Hamilton

19 Nov 2017 17:42:39
you know faulk is 27 right? and you want the leafs to trade not just nylander, but a first as well?

19 Nov 2017 17:43:03
jesus i just looked at the other trades and its even worse LOL.

19 Nov 2017 18:04:29
Just terrible.

19 Nov 2017 19:32:47
Lol. These are entertaining.

20 Nov 2017 16:27:43
Ducks take this and run, but only when Kesler and Getzlaf are back. If they make a trade now, its going to be for a centerman.

21 Nov 2017 11:47:49
Mitch mar for dougie is ridiculously bad for Calgary, dougie is Calgary's best or second best dman, marner doesn't compare.

19 Nov 2017 14:04:45
Tor : W Nylander
Cgy : D Hamilton + S Bennett + J Jagr + maybe a 2nd?

Leafs lose a valuable asset and probably irreplaceable but in return they get a decent top 4-6 dman but still has potential, a young hometown boy that is having a bad start but a change of scenery may help and a legendary lagr that could bring in a leadership role.

19 Nov 2017 14:29:17
Nylander is going nowhere.

19 Nov 2017 15:24:39
Did you just call Hamilton a decent top 4/ 6 d man? In that case Nylander is a middle 6 forward.

19 Nov 2017 19:35:24
Please stoppppppppo.

21 Nov 2017 11:48:40
Dougie would immediately become your number 1 defenseman get real man.

18 Nov 2017 15:17:59
Theoretical Avs trades:
Avs trade
Gabriel Landeskog

Leafs trade
William Nylander
Kasperi Kapanen
Nikita Zaitsev
Jake Gardiner (50% retained)
2018 2nd
Avs trade
Tyson Barrie

Stars trade
Alexander Radulov (50% retained)
2018 1st

18 Nov 2017 16:50:22

18 Nov 2017 18:01:18
okay so now that I've seen this and other trades of yours, either you are a troll, horrible at evaluating players or just an idiot. sadly i'm leaning towards the third option.

18 Nov 2017 18:15:24
Holey. Nylander for Landeskog is already too much from Toronto. You high bud?

18 Nov 2017 20:57:28
Lol Landeskog for Nylander Kapanen Zaitsev Gardiner
You really must be high.

19 Nov 2017 00:00:16
Leafs add 🙉.

18 Nov 2017 03:57:03
Pens: Sprong, Rust, a 1st (2018) and a 2nd (2019)
Leafs: Marner


18 Nov 2017 04:06:42
Lolllll nice troll.

18 Nov 2017 09:00:04
My thought is you have no idea what you’re doing on here.

17 Nov 2017 17:21:42


17 Nov 2017 17:44:45
Pretty good post bro!
Knew you had it in ya, Kinda proud of you man.

17 Nov 2017 20:36:59
Potential top 4 d for trash.

18 Nov 2017 10:51:49
Value might be good, but it doesn't fill a need for Toronto. We already have an abundance of 4-6 dmen. Rather keep Soshnikov.

17 Nov 2017 11:06:28
To Toronto OEL and Strome

To Arizona Marner, Dermott, Kapanen/Leivo and a 1st in 2018

17 Nov 2017 11:38:05
Arizona laughs.

17 Nov 2017 11:54:39
arizona laughs? toronto laughs that's almost 4 first rounders maybe that's why your last.

17 Nov 2017 12:19:17
"Almost" 4 first rounders lol. good one john.

17 Nov 2017 15:38:02
First rounders are first round picks before the pick is made, and maybe if it’s a guy that was taken in the first round in either of the last 2 drafts. I’ll give you marner and the first as “first rounders” I don’t consider a guy taken wth a late first 4 drafts ago, a guy taken 2nd round 3 drafts ago, or a guy taken 3rd round 6 drafts ago 1st rounders haha.

17 Nov 2017 21:56:45
you so called hockey people get your facts straight marner 1st round kapenen 1st round 2018 1st round dermontt 31 st pick one shy of a 1st round.

18 Nov 2017 00:18:15
Kapanen at pick 22 is "almost" a second rounder then by that theory.

18 Nov 2017 00:21:35
And dermott was actually pick #34.

18 Nov 2017 03:16:14
what are you sens fans it's the same.

17 Nov 2017 03:41:51
Mtl) Juulsen + Hemsky
Tor) Kapanen + Norton

Yes I know this is a risk for Tor but they could improve a lot their defense with that kind of guy in the future

17 Nov 2017 03:57:35
Bahahahaha HUGE no from toronto! You can't be serious lol.

17 Nov 2017 05:15:01
How is that a no from Toronto? A guy that can’t surpass Matt Martin on the depth sheet for a guy thag can be a top 4 Defensemen on a team that desperately needs young good dman.

17 Nov 2017 05:34:55
Hahahahahahah. Awesome.

17 Nov 2017 05:51:42
Is juulsen even a top 4 in laval? Get real!

17 Nov 2017 14:00:57
@facelift39, hum, Juulsen was actually on the top pair in Laval before he got his foot broken.

18 Nov 2017 10:47:46
AO99 you do know why Martin is in the lineup right? I’m pretty sure Kapanen has more skill than him.

16 Nov 2017 15:38:06
Tampa Bay:
J. VanReimsdyk LW
T. Bozak C
R. Polak D
C. Carrick D
2nd 2018

S. Koekkoek D
C. Foote D
B. Howden C
3rd 2019 (becomes a 2nd if they win the cup 2018 or 2019)

16 Nov 2017 16:24:45
Lol no.

16 Nov 2017 16:45:45
Two words: salary cap.
No from bolts valuewise anyway.

14 Nov 2017 23:26:24
Flames Acquire:
• Mitch Marner
• Nikita Soshnikov
Leafs Acquire:
• Dougie Hamilton

I threw in Soshnikov istead of a 1st or a roster player. Because they won't play him and instead of heading to the khl which is in his contract better off to trade him to a team that needs him.

Trade Stajan to someone for a low pick, trade Brouwer and a pick or propsect (klimchuk) to yotes for a low pick or future considerations.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Marner
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Jagr
Versteeg - Lazar - Ferland

15 Nov 2017 04:52:09
Leafs should throw in soshnikov because they aren’t playing him in the NHL and should give him to a team that needs him. and then you don’t have him on the flames roster either lol.

15 Nov 2017 19:09:38
Lol Hamilton is overrated.

17 Nov 2017 11:05:17
This could be a great deal for both teams. I’m still hesitant about trading one of the big 3 young forwards when there are other forwards who could bring in a decent return. Mind you I don’t think their forwards in the AHL could land Hamilton but maybe someone like Manson or another stay at home defenseman.

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