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17 Feb 2018 19:55:17
Vancouver trade
Tanev and Gudbranson
Toronto trade
2019 1st
2018 3rd
Bracco
Rachel

Toronto trade
Carrick
Arizona
3rd in 2018

Detroit trade
Glendening
2nd 2018
Toronto trade
Martin
Leivo


Line up
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Jvr-Bozak-Brown
Komorov-Glendening-kapanen

Reilly-Tanev
Dermott-Zietzev
Hainsey-Gudbranson

17 Feb 2018 17:55:44
Since Glendening has been reported as a Leafs target:

Matt Martin and a 4th Round Pick to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Luke Glendening.

Glendening have appx. the same total salary remaining, except Martin makes 700k more, while Glendening has 1 more year. Glendening is a better player than Martin, so Toronto adds the fourth. However, Detroit dirches the extra year of the contract, which is good. Glendening becomes Torontos 4C for the next four ish years, and we don't have to worry about fillinv the void again.

16 Feb 2018 13:35:35
Arizona Trades
Domi
Demers
6th Round Pick 2018

Toronto Trades
Leivo
CCarrick
Borgman (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2018
2nd Round Pick 2018 (Sharks Pick)

Thoughts ?

16 Feb 2018 23:48:51
STAWP IT.

17 Feb 2018 02:16:19
Hard pass by the leafs.

17 Feb 2018 04:11:29
At least it’s a little different than the usual.

17 Feb 2018 05:48:28
Really not that bad.

15 Feb 2018 13:39:58
Detroit Trades
FNielsen

Toronto Trades
DMoore
2nd Round Pick 2018

Thoughts ?

15 Feb 2018 14:35:49
Doesn’t Nielsen have term left at over $5mill? Why would you bring him in when guys need raises? And there’s rumours that leafs are still interested, if the price is right, in signing JVR long term if they can agree on a number that works for both. Use that money on retaining a top 6 winger? Or a bottom 6 centre?!

15 Feb 2018 15:04:53
I might be wrong, but isn't JVR playing in the bottom 6 now? I know they were mixing up their lines to have balanced scoring options for a while.

15 Feb 2018 16:12:54
I guess he’s technically on the third line, with bozak and Brown but that’s for balance (like kessel in Pittsburgh was) but he’s a top 6 winger on any team in the league without question and great on the pp. The point I was making was that Nielsen doesn’t take anyone’s spot in the top 6 and arguably in the top 9. Why bring a guy with a big contract in to replace Dominic Moore (1.5 mill Pending UFA)? Does he make us that much better and more prepared to beat bruins/ lightning? Nope. I don’t think what he brings is worth missing out on a chance to bring back jvr or to sign an upgrade on D in the offseason. If he was on an expiring contract, I’d be interested because he’s a decent player and can penalty kill and is an upgrade on Moore. But he has 4 yeas after this at 5.25 mill. No thanks.

15 Feb 2018 16:31:24
JVR, Bozak are not coming back, maybe Komarov but next Season F. Nielsen is your 3rd Line Centre and with A. Johnsson in my guess a Leaf next year its a change coming, this is how the Leafs now do business and its smart to move forward this way.

15 Feb 2018 18:09:29
Uh extremely easy no from Detroit imo.

15 Feb 2018 18:10:07
And makes no sense for Toronto to bring in a guy they don’t even need.

15 Feb 2018 19:46:12
Dont under value that 2nd round pick lol.

15 Feb 2018 22:11:12
saying “this is how the leafs do business” is a little weird lol. Since when is it shanahans and lous way to trade draft picks to bring in a 33 year old 3rd line centre owed $5.25 million till he’s 37?! Lol why wouldn’t they just resign bozak for less than that for 3-4 years and he’s 2 years younger and you already know how he fits in and what he brings. Frans Nielsen is not the answer to the leafs lol.

15 Feb 2018 22:20:09
And I’m not saying it’s a good deal for Detroit. Only way they would take that package is if they know they’re going to rebuild and owners don’t wanna pay $20+ mill to a guy while they’re going to suck.

But leafs could give bozak 4 years @ $4 - 4.5 or something. He makes 4.2 right now and likes it in Toronto, lived through the shitty times, would probably like to get to be part of the better times. And he knows his role isn’t top line anymore, he takes big face offs and can do everything Nielsen would do while making less and being a bit younger.

15 Feb 2018 23:07:56
I like Neilsen but I’d rather see Bozak come back. He’s having an off year but that could be beneficial to the leafs in resigning him. Maybe 3m a year for 3 years or something like that. He’s still a very good 3rd line Center, good on the draw and kills penalties. I don’t want them to have to move Nylander to center.

14 Feb 2018 21:31:23
Blues:Parayko

Tor: Marner,Kapanen,Lilijegreen

14 Feb 2018 22:38:22
What? that's lot from Toronto, isn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:06:33
Nice reach Colt. Add Tarasenko for that. Sounds silly doesn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:08:03
Not likely Colt. and its not even close.

14 Feb 2018 23:12:42
Too much from leafs jeez.

14 Feb 2018 23:47:29
Now he sounds like the old colt55! Lol although he would have had a 1st going to the blues too.

15 Feb 2018 02:51:23
The old Colt would never propose trading Parayko guys.

15 Feb 2018 03:03:42
Did you forget to strap up your helmet and put in your mouth guard before you hopped on your computer colt?

15 Feb 2018 05:05:20
@YUP, you’re right. My bad.

15 Feb 2018 15:24:30
Good call Yup.
Ya, Parayko is 100% untradeable for he Real Colt. this new Colt really has a similar stench to GoldenShowers IMO.

13 Feb 2018 16:46:48
Not mine, just saw these and thought I would see what you guys think.

BUF:
E. Kane

STL:
1st 2019
2nd 2018
C J. Kyrou
__________________________

NYR:
R. Nash

BOS:
1st 2018
D J. Zboril
__________________________

DET:
D. Mike Green

TOR:
1st 2018
RW J. Leivo
D A. Borgman
__________________________

13 Feb 2018 18:39:49
Sorry to burst your bubble. Darmstrong Stated he is not trading his top Prospects (Thomas, Kyrou, Kostin, ) Top rookies (Dunn, Thompson), Top draft picks (2018 2nd, 2019 1st) or Fabbri for a rental type deal.

Also out of all the guys that have been rumored to the blues. I would think Kane would be the least palatable player with his locker room BS, On ice BS and Personal BS. Besides the fact that he is cold as poo right now.

13 Feb 2018 18:42:45
If toronto wants Mike for that price I am down with it. Good deep draft this year Hopefully Kenny H and his team don't f this draft up plenty of good potential players. Hell I would be will to dump Nyquist, tatar, and a few others for as many picks in the top 93 picks this year.

13 Feb 2018 18:44:59
I can actually see all of them happening. not sure Green is what the Leafs need? I think they need more of a tough hard noses Dman. they have skill in Gardiner and Reilly. obviously Green wouldn't hurt em, but If Leafs could find an Intimidating Dman. (big hitter, crease clearer. ) . I think would help em out.

13 Feb 2018 19:16:55
If I were blues I’d hang up.
Leafs don’t need offense from the point, they need a real defender.
If I were Bruins I would be curious at that. I know where zboril was drafted but don’t know a lot more, so clearly depends how they view him. However that pick should be very late and the big heavy game bruins play could be a great fit for Nash. I think the east is as open as it has been in a long time for these playoffs and with the way they have been playing i think the Bruins should look to capitalize. Rask is playing the best he has in years, have one of, if not the best line the league and a lot of youth outperforming expectations. As a leaf fan, I don’t wanna see them get better. But if I were Sweeney, I’d be tempted for sure.

14 Feb 2018 00:44:45
Redwing, you saying old poo? Cause poo is fairly hot when it first comes out, clearify please.

14 Feb 2018 05:01:15
I'm sorry let's say cold as 5 week b old poo in Alberta on Christmas day.

14 Feb 2018 16:27:53
lol @ Colt, never change bud.

14 Feb 2018 16:31:51
#1 Acquiring Kane is a mistake. Too much trouble I would
never give that for a rental that's been nothing but
trouble his whole career.

#2 Overpayment for a rental, but Nash might have a bidding
war that nets this type of return in the end. You Could
be onto something with a realistic trade there.

#3 Looks like a good trade value wise, but I don't think the
leafs are in a cap position to take on Green's Salary
unless they move out another salary in another trade.

12 Feb 2018 21:34:23
Just a wild thought.

Montreal trades
Patches
Toronto trades
Bracco, Nielsson and 2 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Gardiner
New Jersey trade
Mccloud and 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Komorov
Colorado trades
3rd 2018

Waive Martin

12 Feb 2018 22:31:28
Don’t need a scoring winger in patches. That’s actually the last position leafs need help with, they actually have so much depth there that they already have guys asking for trades out.

You don’t trade a good top 4 Dmen for futures when you are entering the playoffs with a young team and you have no one for sure ready to assume that role.

Leafs are going to have to play Boston and/ or Tampa in best of 7 game series. We have loads of talent, but not many guys that are really hard to play against up front. If the return for a great penalty killing, hard nosed veteran forward who has played almost 20 minutes a night multiple times this season again teams top lines is a 3rd rounder, why the hell would you trade him?! Komarov has to stay unless a team that feels they’re a depth forward away from a cup wants to really over pay.

Waiving martin accomplishes nothing, Because his cap stays on the books anyway and no one will claim him.

13 Feb 2018 00:59:02
Why waive Martin tho.

13 Feb 2018 02:55:11
Hell no from mtl.

13 Feb 2018 18:26:30
Montreal hangs up the phone. after they are done laughing.

13 Feb 2018 21:35:37
Wow balsam, you didn’t even insult Marleau in that one. You’re growing lol.

14 Feb 2018 00:27:00
balsam only replies to leaf posts and it’s always something negative. It’s sad that the leafs have such terrible players yet do so well eh balsy?

12 Feb 2018 13:31:13
OTT: Hoffman
Columbus: Milano, Gabe Carlsson

OTT: Ceci
TB: Gourde, 2nd

OTT: Phaneuf @ 50%, Smith, 1st
LA: Ladue, Vilardi, 1st

OTT: Thompson
ANA: 4th

OTT: Oduja
TOR: 4th

Ryan Duchene Stone
Dzingel Brassard Domenico
Pyatt Pageau Milano
Gourde White Paajarvi

Karlsson Chabot
Ladue Wideman
Carlsson Boro

Claesson, Harpur depth
Chlapik, Vilardi on way

Vast improvement in bottom six.

12 Feb 2018 16:34:16
Gourde has 20 goals this year. Every line he plays on scores. I wouldn't trade him for Ceci let alone with a secons but that's because i don't think Ceci is good at all. Gourde would not be on the 4th line on a team like that.

12 Feb 2018 18:56:24
Phaneuf doesn’t get you Vilardi alone lmao.

13 Feb 2018 04:36:51
would the 1st rounds in the la trade not cancel eachother out, if not ottawas be worth more?

13 Feb 2018 05:33:47
Pkane, ottawas pick will likely be top 5 or 6. los angeles pick likely 24-31 somewhere in there. that would be an immediate deal breaker for the sens imo.

13 Feb 2018 08:59:45
Haven't the Sens already traded their 1st for Duchene?

13 Feb 2018 09:33:19
Haha nice try with the Gourde trade. Not even straight up.

13 Feb 2018 16:13:51
Toronto doesn't want oduja he's to slow. Maybe 4 yeara ago.

13 Feb 2018 21:11:38
Rednick, its top 10 protected. but still, i don't think ottawa is in any place to be flaunting that pick around in trade proposals.

14 Feb 2018 10:38:37
Last 2 yes
First 3 no

Phaneuf 1 is a joke for ottawa. firstly Phaneuf will be gone but without retention.
Secondly ottawa will not trade their pick.

14 Feb 2018 17:28:19
Newsflash ram! Phaneuf was traded last night! We retained 25%.

16 Feb 2018 21:34:11
Yeah we did but that's because Dorian has no idea what he's doing. any other gm could get that deal done without retention. Dorian is a fool.

12 Feb 2018 00:55:54
Tor: Gardiner,Marner

Ari:Scheen,Oliver E Larson, Domi


Would this be Fair?

12 Feb 2018 02:57:02
Not at all wtf bro.

12 Feb 2018 03:22:58
No, need more for OEL. T. O would have to add Nylander, and they won't want both Marner and Nylander out. so. instead of going for both OEL and Domi., concentrate on only OEL.
Remember. this is same guy they wouldn't trade to TO for the first overall a couple years ago. (bit of a mistake) however. going to take a lot to get him out of Arizona.

12 Feb 2018 19:15:31
Why everything I read from colt making me dizzy? Think I just slake my head to much without realizing.

11 Feb 2018 14:02:37
Carolina Trades
Faulk

Toronto Trades
MMartin
CCarrick
Sparks (AHL)

Thoughts ?

11 Feb 2018 14:47:06
You posted the same thing except a 2nd rounder instead of Martin and it was all negative. You think martin is worth more than the 2nd? Lol.

11 Feb 2018 14:54:56
Carolina would trade their best RHD for a overpaid 4 line center and two AHLer. Comon man.

11 Feb 2018 15:45:43
If the Leafs have too add one of there two 2nd Round Picks 2018 I would still do the trade if I where either Team.

11 Feb 2018 16:09:55
No way Hurricanes accept this one. Add at least a 1st if you want the trade done.

11 Feb 2018 17:27:16
I don't know if this is good or not. The way Sparks has been playing. He is looking like he could be an NHLer. Carolina needs a goaltender for the team to move into that next level, and they have a strong defence with or without faulk. I could see those two being the start of a deal at the very least.

Martin could also be good for them. He is a good leader and that is something the Huricanes could use. They also have about 20million in cap space next season, so taking on that salary is no big deal for them.

Instead of throwing carrick in the mix, who I think should stay and play on the 3rd pairing with dermott see about having Carolina take a few bodies off our hands and give them a couple of nice draft picks like those two 2nd rounders for thier trouble.

11 Feb 2018 18:05:44
Carolina says no, faulk is an all star caliber defence and the return here is garbage. A ahl goalie, a fourth line plug and a defence that likely won't crack the canes top four. can't see it being anywhere close.

11 Feb 2018 19:17:26
God this is terrible for Carolina. No words on how bad this is.

11 Feb 2018 21:46:20
Pretty bad when colt is voice of reason lol.

12 Feb 2018 12:27:09
Lol Colt55 you're right when your the voice of reason it's really funny. However I don't believe that is possible.

12 Feb 2018 13:39:16
Sparks is the real deal people and they need a Goaltender for the future.
Faulk is good but not an AllStar Dman.
Add both 2nd Round Picks in 2018 to sweeten the deal if need be.

13 Feb 2018 05:50:25
17 people have disagreed with you.

13 Feb 2018 16:39:26
I mean from a leafs perspective you could be giving up on a really good goalie that would be a nice buffer if andersen starts to decline. For someone we likely can't afford in a few years.

13 Feb 2018 16:41:51
Toronto is built to be well coached and outscore there defensive deficiencies. Babcock will find some hardworking defense prospects think hyman brown but on defense. That will sign team friendly deals. We don't need faulk. We have enough offensive defenseman yes the value probably favours toronto now but will it in 5 years?

10 Feb 2018 23:46:32
Deadline deals

Detroit trades
Green
Toronto trades
Soshikov and 2nd in 2018

NYR trades
Nash
Winnipeg trades
Petan and 3rd in 2018

Arizona trade
Haljarmin
Tampa Bay trade
2nd in 2018 and 2019

Toronto trade
Martin retain 25%
Arizona trade
7th in 2018

Vancouver trade
Gudbranson
Toronto trade
Bracco and Niellson

11 Feb 2018 04:38:36
Some not bad. Don’t see why arizona would pay to get Matt martin, even at 25% retained. I’d do the soshnikov one for sure, but think there might be a better offer for green. Also I think Nielsen and Bracco is an overpayment for sure for Gudbranson. I’d say that’s a bettter package than Sosh and a 2nd but green is far better than Gud. Also don’t need 2 RHD coming in.

11 Feb 2018 04:53:50
In my opinion nash could get a better return, but the rest sound close.

11 Feb 2018 14:08:37
Even though that’s probably Greens value, I’m certain Detroit will get more for Green

I would assume any package involving Nash will have a 1st round pick coming back to the Rangers

Hjalmarsson was had for far less last season and hasn’t played nearly as well this year. However given the history of past deadlines, this one seems pretty likely.

If Toronto found a way to not retain salary on a $7M Phaneuf, I’m sure they can find a way to trade $2.5 without retention. I also don’t think the Leafs would punish Martin by sending him to the desert. Although he’s overpaid, he’s done nothing but treat the Leafs with respect and has provided them valuable leadership in the past couple seasons. For that reason I see the Leafs trying to find a much better home for him rather than Arizona.

No chance Toronto makes that trade. Gudbranson is just a younger version of Polak and he makes 3.5M per year. I wouldn’t trade anything more than a 4th round pick for him. Plenty other options available.

11 Feb 2018 21:52:37
Terrible offer. Why would Toronto trade Martin for a 7th and over payment for green. Sosh is a real Player and a keeper to replace Komorov. Hope the Leafs stand pat. Next season is the one.

11 Feb 2018 01:01:11
TORONTO receives: Valimaki, Bennett

CALGARY receives: Marner

11 Feb 2018 03:11:31
Start with Tkachuk. add from there
There’s no avoiding it.

11 Feb 2018 03:53:48
The only imaginable way Marner is headed to Calgary is in a deal involving Dougie Hamilton. So basically it’s not happening.

11 Feb 2018 06:31:09
Not enough for Marner and btw you don’t add to Tkachuk for Marner, they’re very equal.

11 Feb 2018 14:56:27
Yeah I would take tkachuk for marner straight up. He just does so much more than Mitch but may not have to same ceiling in pts. But I think he could help you win in other ways that marner never will. Can’t go wrong with either of them.

11 Feb 2018 15:49:50
I agree that package likely wouldn’t get Marner but the 2 other replies are worse. Seriously, Hamilton, a 6’4” excellent skating D with a great offensive game and now so much better with his D game as well for a smaller guy with 12 goals. yea that’s a good idea. Pfft. And Tkachuk does so much more and also has great potential to put up more points. Leafs would have to add there for sure.

10 Feb 2018 19:19:29
Toronto: Nylander + Liljegren + Kapanen + 1st

Ottawa: Karlsson

🤷🏼‍♂️
Value wise would those teams make it?
Realistically not going to happen. Just a post.
Ottawa will never win the trade ever, so trying to minimize the loss.

10 Feb 2018 20:00:02
Depends on if Toronto had an extension in place. If they don't that's quite a bit of quality for 1 1/2 years even if it is karlsson

Values there but it'd never happen between division rivals.

10 Feb 2018 20:00:31
I think Ottawa Wins that trade by a landslide. Marks on is good but Lilijegreen and a first and Kappy good. Not Nylander +++ Lilijegreen and happy good. Lol.

10 Feb 2018 20:01:08
Not a chance from Toronto.

10 Feb 2018 20:18:01
I'd say for a season and a half of Karlson, sens make out like bandits. If that’s the price leafs have to pay for a guarantee 1.5 years of Karlson they should walk away. Rebuilding takes more than 2-3 years, leafs need to hang on to their assets.

10 Feb 2018 20:18:57
I don’t know what Ottawa would want in return but that’s basically 4 first rounders. I definitely would not like the deal from a Toronto perspective.

10 Feb 2018 20:51:31
How would trading karlsson to your divisional rival minimize the loss? What a joke.

10 Feb 2018 21:41:32
Ottwawa loses one of the best D in the game but they’d take that for sure IMO.

10 Feb 2018 21:50:50
I think it's to much for Karlsson.

10 Feb 2018 22:48:08
Am Not enough for karlsson.

10 Feb 2018 22:54:56
Toronto should do it because they are giving up only 1 roster player and they have depth to cover Nylander and they get the best defensemen in the game.

10 Feb 2018 23:26:57
Oops oh no this is guaranteed extension also.

10 Feb 2018 23:28:45
Imo, its too much from EK. Cause Nylanders basically a 50-60 point guy with potential of 70, and he's dual C/ W, Liljegren is the best prospect Toronto has, Kapanen, in limited minutes has looked solid, and a 1st is a 1st. Honestly, this trade may hurt Toronto more than it helps in the long run, even if EK is resigned. Its just too much imo.

10 Feb 2018 23:30:28
And ya obvs said it wouldn’t happen haha just value wise.

10 Feb 2018 23:37:36
Karllson is a stud dman but if Toronto does this I think it will come back to burn them. And extending him would cost alot.

11 Feb 2018 04:49:33
Massive Karlsson fan but I would hope leafs wouldn’t pay that for him. I know he makes any team instantly better, but I feel like drew doughty makes the leafs better than Karlsson does. He just addresses more of the areas our game is soft. Unbelievable talent for both of them, but long term, I don’t think Karlsson helps us as much as all those pieces do, and when it’s going to come with an 8 year extension, have to think long term.

11 Feb 2018 12:15:09
Leafs are 2nd in dman points. They need a solid stay home dman.

11 Feb 2018 14:03:43
Not part of the Shanaplan.
So a big NO for that dumb trade proposal.

11 Feb 2018 14:04:26
Replace kapanen and liljegren with marner and add Phaneuf and lupul to each end then we have something to look at as a starting point, leafs might still have to add based on what Colorado got for Duchene and the fact that karlsson is not only a defenceman but that has a much better player than Duchene is thus he's worth more.

Marner, nylander, lupul, and their late 1st

Karlsson, Phaneuf

Toronto unloads lupul and brings back Phaneuf via karlsson. But is now in a position where Phaneuf can be used properly, in doing so they add the best defenceman in the last decade.

Ottawa uses EKs value to unload Phaneufs contract by adding one that expires sooner same way Toronto did in original deal but also adds 2 solid top six forwards and a late 1st in a weak draft class. with the addition of the 2 fowards they will have some flexibility up front and can afford to move brassard, Ryan, and Smith for other pieces like maybe draft picks, prospects, or replacement dman. example Ryan to rangers for shattenkirk. bad contract for bad contract but both players would fit better with the other team. also brassard to pitsberg or Columbus for a 1st both have been rumored this year. and smith to calgary for two years of 3rds also been rumored.

Hoffman Duchene stone
Marner white nylander
Formenton brown Dzingle
Batherson pageau pyatt

Chabot shattenkirk
Claeson Ceci
Harpur/ borowieski wideman

Ottawa's speed would be upped tremendously while Toronto fixes their biggest issue which is their blue line by adding the crazy 1 2 punch of Matthews karlsson with Phaneuf net front presence.

11 Feb 2018 14:07:16
Karsson way better than the sum of those parts.

11 Feb 2018 15:33:06
@no bias, leafs are not taking phaneufs contract back lol the fact that the sens took that without leafs retaining anything in the first place is still talked about as one of the greatest heists. We had to retain on kessel who is a far better player. Your GM took the full salary for the lesser player, that’s on him. No trade backsies lol.

11 Feb 2018 16:54:32
Dorion is not stupid enough to trade an impact player like that to a team within the same division.

11 Feb 2018 18:39:32
Why would the leafs feel obligated to unload the lupul contract? Its not costing them a dime.

11 Feb 2018 19:19:40
Nylander and Marner for EK and Dion Phaneuf? No bias my a** lmao.

11 Feb 2018 21:53:31
And saying Dorion isn’t dumb enough to trade a star within the division? but he took a contract that was killing a division rival without having them retain salary, never got a good prospect or pick that was an incentive and in fact gave the best prospect (Tobias Lindberg) and the only pick (2nd rounder) in the deal. He’s the only guy I can think of that did that too, so who knows? lol.

12 Feb 2018 19:24:12
Jim you need to do your homework better. it was murray not Dorian who acquired Phaneuf.

And I've said it before I'll continue to say it again unroll it sinks in. contracts, good or bad, do not make or break a deal as there are many ways around bad contracts.

1 way is retention, another is by packaging a bad contract with a desired piece (in this case a generational talent known as Erik karlsson), another way is by taking back another bad contract with less term (Like lupul in this case)

I guarantee Phaneuf gets traded again before his contract expires an most likely before the start of next season. there has been interest stemming from the kings in acquiring him for a playoff run from what I've been hearing.

Also note that an asking prices has been set on one Derrick brassard as well that proves I far from over value the sens players as I've said all along is be content with a mid 1st for Brassard who Dorian has set an asking price of a 1st, a top prospect, and a third unidentified piece for. clearly I undervalued him just not as much as the rest of you have.

Thank sakic for the ridiculous over values of certain players now days.

Think of it this way. if brassard demands that big of a return karlsson probably demands a lot more than I previously stated as well seeing as how he's 10 × the player brassard is, he plays a more important role and position, and he can single handedly change the game when he's healthy, went through summer training camp, and is not recovering from surgury.

Ryan may be tougher to move than Phaneuf due to his plastic fingers but even he could find the right suiter if they tried to.

10 Feb 2018 14:54:36
The leafs are missing 1 good defenceman in order to become cup contenders. The Blackhawks on the other hand will miss the playoffs and need a retool. What perfect dance partners
Leafs - Nylander 2nd pick 2018
Hawks - Keith
As much as I love watching Nylander play with Matthews one must trade from strength to help weakness
Why Chicago would do it - gets younger more skilled
Why toronto would do it - number one defenceman they need who is a leader Nylander gets a raise next season

10 Feb 2018 15:02:26
North is a great defenceman but too old if we trade nylander it will be for a younger dman.

10 Feb 2018 15:52:35
I agree with tyhockey.
If your going to trade a guy like Nylander., think long term. package him for OEL.?
Something on those lines.

10 Feb 2018 17:24:43
You really want to trade a 21 year old Nylander + for 34 year old Kieth? Crazy.

10 Feb 2018 17:29:43
Yeah nylander/ marner don't get traded for a 35 year old who is signed till he’s 40 lol they should only go in a package for a star d in his mid to late 20s like Sosa said.

10 Feb 2018 19:45:11
Agree with everyone but going to need and huge deal for oel, Keith still a top de in the league and hasn't slowed down much and has been one of the best de in the league for year on a very good cap hit, would just worry he starts to slow down.

10 Feb 2018 21:19:51
Or don't trade at all, i mean the leafs are looking good this year with what they already have. The young guys on the blueline look better and stronger the more experience they get. I think if the leafs just stand pat with what they have, they'll be just fine.

10 Feb 2018 21:30:26
Ya try and trade Nylander + for a OEL or Faulk, Doughty type a guy. Not a 34 year old. Lol.

10 Feb 2018 22:54:27
Ya. Why trade for a 34 yr old who is signed till he is 40.they can offer him 3 yrs at 6.75 then

And lmao at the "leads 1 good defenceman away"

11 Feb 2018 05:01:07
Balsam, what’s your definition of a cup contender? because Nashville snuck in the playoffs last year and was a cpl wins away. Leafs are a shoe in to the playoffs because wings and habs are about 17 pts back lol they have a lethal offense, 4 pretty good Dmen and a cpl kids playing well and a goalie who has been unbelievable since the first 7-8 games of the season. So adding a top pair D doesn’t give them a good chance? I guess they should follow Marc Bergevins plan to success, make a series of moves that take a playoff team and make them lottery pick contenders.

11 Feb 2018 05:09:55
And the “3 year at 6.75” comment I figure is about Marleau because that’s your go to shot at the leafs, but Marleau at 37 has 2 more goals in 2 more games than paccioretty. Remember that Max plays top line and top PP and has been on the ice for 125 more minutes than Marleau this season while being almost a decade younger and scoring less. Not saying pacioretty isn’t a good player, he is, but if you’re going to make Marleau your target for criticism, make sure he’s not out performing your best player! Also it’s 6.25 mill, not 6.75. Get your chirp right at least lol.

09 Feb 2018 15:08:33
Pens- 3rd or 4th

Leafs-Nikita Soshnikov

Thoughts?

09 Feb 2018 18:25:25
I’d be happy with a 3rd because we have no spot for him and kapanen has clearly solidified himself as the first option of those guys. And anyone that hasn’t watched him play, I believe fans of most teams would be happy with him if they paid a third. High energy and hard working and has some offensive upside. Pretty good shot and hots everything that moves. Plays fearless for his size.

10 Feb 2018 18:43:03
I'd rather have Sosh be part of a package for a dman.

09 Feb 2018 11:13:31
Idea:

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.

09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.

09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.

07 Feb 2018 17:44:18
Toronto Kyrou + pick

St Louis JVR + Leivo

Leafs aren't winning this year

07 Feb 2018 19:29:31
Lol no from stl.

07 Feb 2018 20:16:39
Should clarify what pick lol but Regardless, i don’t see blues moving kyrou unless it’s in a deal for a guy with some term. (Pacioretty, Hoffman)

07 Feb 2018 21:26:50
Patches in a deal for Kyrou might be nice. Blues get two years to run at the cup with patches before he needs a new deal.

08 Feb 2018 00:46:59
Blues have like 8 lw. Patches is pretty much a rental who dissappear in the playoffs lol not needed.

08 Feb 2018 14:34:38
Also at this point blues may not make the playoffs they are better off keeping all four young prospects and retool in offseason with their farm system and picks rather than give up half of them for a guy they wouldn't be resigning and losing in 1 year doesn't help the team in the long run.

07 Feb 2018 14:35:03
Toronto trade leivo,sosh,Gardiner and and 1st round pick

Arizona trade Domi,oel

Toronto lineup

Domi-matthews-nylander
Marleau-kadri-marner
Jvr-bozak-hyman
Brown-moore-kapanen


Hainsey-reilly
Dermott-oel
Borgman-zaitsev

07 Feb 2018 15:16:24
Not enough for OEL.

07 Feb 2018 15:21:29
If your trying to get OEL, eithet Marner or Nylander are going the other way. and ya want Domi as Well?
Gonna have to sweeten the deal for the kid GM in Arizona to bite.

07 Feb 2018 15:38:55
No thanks from leafs. Domi has potential to be much better but I’m not sold enough on him to trade a good top 4 D (when that's where we are thin), a 1st and 2 capable young players for him. Maybe a cpl young players who are less proven than him. Or a prospect and a pick, but even then I’m just not sure of the fit. Leafs are stacked on the wing and he has shown he’s not a real good centre at this level. I like the nostalgia of the domi connection, but sometimes you got to just look past that for the good of the team.

Plus if you trade all that and he doesn’t pan out you look dumb. If you trade all that and he puts up really good numbers, now you have to pay Matthews, marner, nylander and domi and still have a soft back end?!

07 Feb 2018 15:40:17
Just saw OEL in there! My bad on my response. I’ll do it in a heart beat lol but a massive no way from Arizona.

07 Feb 2018 16:16:12
Holy crap. Two wingers who can't crack your lineup, Gardiner and a 1st for OEL AND Domi? This is crazy delusional. Wow.

07 Feb 2018 16:57:13
Just saw that you tried the exact one below except had coyotes giving leafs a 2nd also lol like that pick was the issue.

07 Feb 2018 23:09:40
Hahaha the next one might be even worse.

07 Feb 2018 14:30:50
Toronto trade leivo,sosh,Gardiner and a 1st round pick

Arizona trade Max Domi,oel,2 round pick

07 Feb 2018 19:30:51
No from arizona that would only get you OEL or not even.

07 Feb 2018 01:48:26
Zemgus Girgensons + Josh Gorges (25% Retained) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nikita Soshnikov + Calle Rosen + Dominic Moore + 2017 3rd Round Pick.

Girgensons is playing pretty bad right now. But he has played decent, like, in 2014? Ish? Maybe he can revitalize his career in Toronto? Even if he doesn't, he's a better fourth line centre than Moore right now, and better than Gauthier. And this allows Aaltonen to stay in the AHL for a year after this. And Zemgus could slot into 3C if Bozak leaves. For Buffalo, they have centre depth. Eichel. ROR. Reinhart. Larsson. And Casey Mittelstadt coming up. They can afford to give up Zemgus. As for Gorges, he's basically a slight upgrade over Polak, although not much. Still, I'd rather see Gorges than Polak, cause Babs will play him over Carrick 100%. And for Buffalo, they get a middling pick, two decently young europeans (Sosh can actually become something, Rosen looked decent but he may just be AHL caliber), and a guy they can replace Zemgus with for the time being.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Zemgus Girgensons - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Morgan Rielly
Jake Gardiner - Josh Gorges
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

*If that isn't enough, i'm willing to up the third to a second (the lower of the SJS/ TOR pick) . I'd like Girgensons, cause I feel he's only playing bad cause he's on a bad team.

07 Feb 2018 14:03:13
I would be all for this deal as a toronto fan.

07 Feb 2018 14:25:22
#1 I highly doubt sabres trade Girgensons for that.

#2 josh George’s was already technically traded to Toronto from MTL and said he wouldn’t go. I know a lot has changed with the roster of the leafs since then, but I don’t think it was a decision about winning vs losing because he chose buffalo over here lol I think it was more a personal decision and doubt that has changed.

07 Feb 2018 15:16:54
@UBJ

True. Maybe his decision changes though, if Torontos the only biter on him at the deadline? Cause he'd probably wanna get out of the hellhole known as Buffalo. Lol. And if it isn't enohgh, maybe bump the third to the second? I can't see Zemgus worth any more than that - he only has 9 points this year anyway.

07 Feb 2018 16:59:04
Yeah. I don’t think it’s a terrible offer, just think that they might bank on Girgenson bouncing back if those are the type of offers they’re getting for him.

 
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