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23 Apr 2019 19:19:35
Toronto Trades
7th Round Pick 2019 (Stars Pick)

Winnipeg Trades

Jets will probably not be able to resign KHayes and there need for a #2 Centre will still be Top priority, Kadri fits that roll very well.

Same old story for the Leafs of needing that Top RHanded Shooting DMan, Trouba fits that roll perfectly.

Thoughts ?

23 Apr 2019 19:34:05
No thanks. No interest in Kadri.

23 Apr 2019 19:36:23
There is no way that Kadri is worth Trouba even with a useless 7th round pick added. Kadri at 44 points is no #2 center while Trouba 50 points is a true top airing rhd. Little had 41 points so what upgrade is Kadri. The Jets will get much better offers for Trouba at the draft if they decide to trade him. Also Kadri is one more stupid head shot away from being suspended for 15+ games so who needs that.

23 Apr 2019 20:11:37
buddy i'd take kadri over little any day what are you saying christ. but true that mans needs to be on a leash if he does something idiotic again

but agree trouba can get more/ better offer yup.

23 Apr 2019 20:43:27
The Leaf are going to try and dump Kadri as he has not done anything but get suspensions and turtle when challenged face to face. I know that Little isn't a true #2 anymore but as a #3 he is way more reliable than Kadri. Explain why you think Kadri is a true #2 center, if you can and stop with the childish name calling as it is so embarrassing. So grow up.

23 Apr 2019 20:52:06
No from Winnipeg but Kadri is much better then little.

23 Apr 2019 22:14:12
wtf when and where did i say any name calling are you blind. and not once did i say kadri is a #2 center so why are you getting so defensive chill out buddy like your telling me to grow up lol relax sorry i don't think little is better than kadri bcuz he's not.

23 Apr 2019 22:20:16
Islandjet where did notdelusional use any sort of “childish name calling” what are you saying. Don’t tell people to grow up for no reason.
Kadri and little have had similar stats throughout their careers (above 40 points) but at this point I’d also take Kadri over Little if I had the chance. More skill and is a pest but also a coward yup but he’s got more skill and has a couple 30 goal seasons on his resume.

22 Apr 2019 11:21:37
Anaheim Ducks 
• (RW) Jakob Silfverberg
• (RHD) Josh Manson
Edmonton Oilers
• (C) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

(Ducks get a player who can produce more scoring touch and Oilers get a physical RHD & a needed Winger)

Toronto Maple Leafs
• (RW) William Nylander
Edmonton Oilers
• (RHD) Adam Larsson

(Both players involved in the trade slumped hard this year but can really step it up with a change of scenery. Willy can be slotted beside McDavid & Larsson can be a top pair with Rielly. Meets both needs of both teams)

Winnipeg Jets
• (LW) Mathieu Perreault
Edmonton Oilers
• (LHD) Kris Russell

(Positional needs for both teams, very very similar contracts aswell, both 2 years around 4M)

Edmonton Oilers Projected Lines

Mathieu Perreault - Connor McDavid - William Nylander
Tyler Benson - Leon Draisaitl - Jakob Silfverberg
Milan Lucic - Jujhar Khaira - Jesse Puljujärvi
Ty Rattie - Sam Gagner - Zach Kassian

Darnell Nurse - Josh Manson
Oscar Klefbom - Ethan Bear
Andrej Sekera - Matt Benning

I gave my reasons behind them, please give me your feedback, i try to be as fair and realistic as possible. :)

22 Apr 2019 14:36:04
The Jets would be moving Perreault to clear cap space. So, taking back dead cap isn't an option. It would have to be Perreault for a pick or prospect.

22 Apr 2019 15:31:21
Perreault may be dealt to get draft choice. Russell who is not a great d-man and would be hard pressed to make the Jets starting roster, would not be a fair return for a player that as you show in your projected lineup, would be the Oilers #1 winger. Perreault is worth at least a 3rd round pick, but may be part of a package that could include Trouba.

22 Apr 2019 15:46:09
Thatll be a no from the ducks, but oilers cannot take back all that salary. Oilers can't take back the extra salary. makes sense if jets needed a lhd, but they also need cap space so no from jets.

22 Apr 2019 17:52:11
Leafs don’t touch Nylander for Larsson one bad season doesen't decrease his value to the leafs management.

22 Apr 2019 22:07:20
I agree rnh is worth more than either player, but both together is worth more than him.

I don't think either team does nylander for Larsson. Both players mean more to current team than to others.

I think Oilers are stuck with Russell. Maybe trade him and a 3rd to a team looking for defense depth with cap room.

23 Apr 2019 09:23:38
Vbbb you say 1 bad season doesn't decrease Nylander's season but act like 1 bad season decreases Larsson's value. I see the biased in you.

23 Apr 2019 19:16:28
What? Larsson had a bad season to me it seems like an average season. Last season there is no way the leafs would trade Nylander for Larsson and nothing has changed.

21 Apr 2019 22:27:40
Calgary Flames
• (C) Dillon Dube
• (2019) 26th Overall Selection
• (RHD) Rasmus Andersson
New York Rangers
• (C) Mika Zibanejad

Calgary Flames
• (LHD) T.J. Brodie
Toronto Maple Leafs
• (RW) Kasperi Kapanen
• (2019) 56th Overall Selection

Calgary Flames
• (RW) Michael Frolik
Carolina Hurricanes
• (2020) 3rd-Round Pick

Calgary Flames
• (RHD) Michael Stone
• (C) Mark Jankowski
Arizona Coyotes
• (2020) 3rd-Round Pick

Calgary Flames
• (RW) James Neal
• (LHD) Rushan Rafikov
• (2020) 1st-Round Pick
New Jersey Devils
• (2020) 4th-Round Pick

Calgary Flames Projected Lines

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - William Nylander
Matthew Tkachuk - Mika Zibanejad - Elias Lindholm
Sam Bennett - Mikael Backlund - Austin Czarnik
Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Juuso Välimäki
Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic
Oliver Kylington - Josh Healey

21 Apr 2019 23:27:25
Devils will not take Neal as they are quickly becoming contenders.

If a team were to take Neal they’d need to be a bottom 5 team.

Also why would New York consider trading Zib he’s young and is there best player he won’t be moved certainly not for that.

22 Apr 2019 00:30:17
How did William Nylander get on Calgary's first line lol.

22 Apr 2019 00:58:00
No from flames yikes
No from leafs
No from flames
No from coyotes
Last one idk lol

And you mean kap in the lineup not Nylander.

22 Apr 2019 02:19:50
I changed nylander to kapanen but forgot to switch them in the lineup. Easy mixup

22 Apr 2019 15:43:30
Nylander for Tj Bodie 😂😂😂.

22 Apr 2019 16:43:03
Wouldt touch nylander with a 10 meter pole. at that salary? No thanks, leafs are stuck with that anchor till he shows he can play well again.

23 Apr 2019 03:46:45
Leafs happily stick with Nylander unless they’re willing to cough up 1RD like Paryanko.

21 Apr 2019 02:11:25
Calgary Trades

Toronto Trades

I can see the Leafs making this type of Trade to setup other Trades, Trading Zaitsev's Contract won't be easy without adding a Prospect and or Picks and a one for one is an idea as Neal would play much better on Toronto then he did in Calgary in my opinion, it just didn't work for him on that Team, Cap difference is 1.25 million in favour of Calgary but it sets up other Trades of Players other Teams would want.

Thoughts ?

21 Apr 2019 05:11:14
Lol what? Toronto gets bent over. Also your reasoning makes zero sense. “Cap difference is 1.25 million in favour of Calgary but it sets up other Trades of players of other teams would want “.

21 Apr 2019 10:50:25
Zaitsev's contract is one year more than Neal's no thank you

21 Apr 2019 14:06:02
With Zaitsevs play in the playoffs, the Leafs can keep him. He has played very well.

21 Apr 2019 01:57:27
Calgary Flames -
• (C) Mikael Backlund
• (RHD) Rasmus Andersson
• (2019) 92nd Overall Selection
Nashville Predators -
• (RHD) PK Subban

Calgary Flames -
• (C) Dillon Dube
• (LHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (2019) 30th Overall Selection
New York Rangers -
• (C) Mika Zibanejad

Calgary Flames -
• (LHD) TJ Brodie
Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RW) Kasperi Kapanen
• (2019) 56th Overall Selection

Calgary Flames -
• (RHD) Michael Stone
Edmonton Oilers -
• (2019) 193rd Overall Pick

Calgary Flames -
• (RW) James Neal
• (2019) 120th Overall Selection
• (RW) Eetu Tuulola
Arizona Coyotes -
• (2020) 7th-Round Pick

Calgary Flames -
• (RW) Michael Frolik
New Jersey Devils -
• (2019) 96th Overall Selection

Calgary Flames -
• (C) Mark Jankowski
Montreal Canadiens -
• (LW) Artturi Lehkonen

FA Signings -
• (RHD) Andrej Sustr (1M x 1YR)

Projected Line-Up :

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - Mika Zibanejad - Martin Pospisil
Artturi Lehkonen - Sam Bennett - Kasperi Kapanen
Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - P.K Subban
Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic
Josh Healey - Andrej Sustr

21 Apr 2019 05:13:28
All amazing trades from a flames POV 🤔.

21 Apr 2019 10:55:03
So calgary gives up no quality vbb? For the main trades i see them giving up a top 4 lhd for a bottom 6 forward + pick. Top 6 c + top 6 rhd + pick for a top 2/4 defencemen with locker room issues. Two a+ prospects, not 30th overall but 28th overall pick for a top 6 c. Get real bud, if it doesn't favor the leafs it doesn't please you i guess

21 Apr 2019 14:50:10
One I can see your a huge flames fan Sean.
So I’ll break down some of the less biased things.
1) I actually don’t like subban but he is worth more than a middle 6 C ( so can be an ok top 6 great 3rd line ) a 3rd pair D and a 3rd round draft choice.
2) you say Dube is an A+ prospect is in itself bad. He is a B+ at best. Either way I don’t see both teams making that trade.
3) isn’t actually that bad but I’m no gm and don’t know what kappy will sign for
4)standard cap dump trade so again could be a yes or no
5) same as the last one but with a better contract to loose
6) this one is more about fit then value as Jankowski is good but Habs are actually full at the C position ( Ik big surprise ) and he would be rather taking up a spot for KK or be playing on the 4th line.

21 Apr 2019 15:30:38
This is an equivalent to the trades you proposed.

CGY: Girodano

Nsh: Turris, Fabbro And 3rd round pick.

CGY: Mathew Tkachuk? ( not sure who the equivalent to Zib is on Calgary )

NYR: Lias Anderson And Two 2nds. Dube is only worth a 2nd.

Kappanen will not be traded for Bodie

And it’ll take a lot more to dump Neal.

21 Apr 2019 01:56:25
Colorado Trades
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

21 Apr 2019 21:45:03
No good thoughts.

21 Apr 2019 01:55:03
Leafs: Kadri

Oil: Larsson

From an article. How’s the value here.

21 Apr 2019 05:14:05
It’s not bad imo.

21 Apr 2019 13:58:49
Edmonton has too many centers i'd say a package starting with Kapanen maybe? Larsson for Kapanen + Brown?

21 Apr 2019 14:19:04
Leafs would trade Kapanen for a better Dman Larsson is not that valuable.

21 Apr 2019 21:46:04
He would be the best rhd that leafs have.

21 Apr 2019 22:23:09
Ok thrasher guy with a career high of 44 points is way more valuable than Larsson .

21 Apr 2019 22:24:24
Trasher, larsson is a very good top 4 rhd. he's the shutdown dman that the leafs need, would be your 2nd best defencemen

19 Apr 2019 02:17:26
TOR: Nazem Kadri, Connor Brown, 1st or 2nd 2020

PIT: Phil Kessel

Just cause I want maximum chaos and this would light Toronto and Toronto media on fire. Especially with a Toronto lineup of

Johnsson - Matthews - Kapanen
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau/Moor - Nylander - Kessel
Marleau/Moor - Gauthier - (Marlies or new version of Ennis)


19 Apr 2019 19:43:19
Why? To all of this. Why is Kessel on the third line? How would this work with Toronto's salary? Kessel's contact has a NTC and a NMC clause, why would he want to go back to Toronto were the worst years of his career were?

19 Apr 2019 19:58:32

1. He'd want to go back to Toronto to win 2. He wouldn't have a choice cause I would assume Toronto is not one of the 8 teams on his no-trade list. Kadri and Brown are basically the equivalent of Kessel's salary, and Kessel is a top RW in the league which Toronto would love to have. He's on the third line because Matthews is a scorer and putting two snipers on one line wouldn't work, Nylander is more of a playmaker and would probably work well with Kessel.

19 Apr 2019 21:19:22
Cap space from the leafs POV makes it a no go. Trades will need to be made to replace/ Make space for the following.

-Mitch Marner ( 10+ million )
-Jake Gardiner ( Dermotte takes his spot but someone needs to play on the third pairing )
- 1RD to replace/ resign ( Hanisey )
- Kappanen ( around 5 mil )
-Johanson ( around 4 mil )

According spotrac. com the leafs will have roughly 27 million in cap space so this could be manageable but it’ll be cutting it close.

19 Apr 2019 23:25:27
Vbbb use cap friendly to get your info it's much more accurate.

20 Apr 2019 07:21:39
Cap friendly doesn’t know what players will sign for habby.

20 Apr 2019 14:06:51
Capfriendly only show cap for this season and I wasn’t feeling like doing the calculations myself.

20 Apr 2019 19:54:01
Did you ever look at it? It shows the caps for 7 seasons on my devices. And leafs 17 who said they would show what players will sign for? They are a cap site not a magical wizardry site.

20 Apr 2019 21:30:33
Well maybe it’s different on the computer.

20 Apr 2019 22:33:49
I don’t know what I was thinking habby. I read something backwards. My apologies, I thought maybe you did think cap friendly was magical.

21 Apr 2019 01:35:23
It's the same on iPad too vbb not sure about on phone though.

15 Apr 2019 15:10:54
to Philadelphia

to Toronto

Equal cap hits (although gostisbehere has an extra year), but toronto would be well served by a defenseman of his caliber, even if that meant giving up a high quality center

Flyers have a lot of high quality young defensemen and really should try to increase offense as well as another veteran presence for their young guys.

15 Apr 2019 20:18:11
Heeeeeeell no from Philly. Gost is way younger and has the potential to return to his dominating offensive form.

15 Apr 2019 20:42:36
Ghost really isn’t the deffensman Toronto needs at all but with that being said if he’s a RHD I’d make that trade but I wouldn’t want to trade Kadri.

15 Apr 2019 15:09:41
Draft Day Trade.

Colorado Trades
1st Round Pick 2019 (16th Overall)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Colorado will be looking for a 2nd Line Centre and Kadri fits the bill, they also have the Cap Space to take on the extra 3.5 million with Zaitsev added in the Deal.

Toronto gets that Top RHanded shooting Defenceman, saves 3.5 million to help in there resignings and gets there 1st Round Pick back from the Muzzin Trade.

Thoughts ?

15 Apr 2019 18:09:46
Colarado says no. Even if you remove Zaitsev and drop the 1st to a 2nd its closer but don't think they would do it.

15 Apr 2019 19:07:27
This is about as bad as it gets the aves don’t trade Barrie straight up for kadri for sure they don’t give up a 1st and take back a cap dump.

15 Apr 2019 20:19:24
Jeez, where does this reductions value for Kadri come from? He wouldn’t get you Barrie straight up let alone a first AND Colorado taking on Zaitsev.

15 Apr 2019 20:44:22
I think Kadri for Barrie is an even trade taking out team needs. Kadri would be the 2 C in Colorado.

15 Apr 2019 21:43:37
Rumour has it that Colorado is picking 4th and could very well be picking a centre, maybe Dozens, Dach or Zegras.
Not sure many teams want a headache like Kadri.

16 Apr 2019 00:23:41
@vbb let's just say for arguments sake he's better then soderberg or kerfoot which I don't think but why would Colorado trade their number 1 dman for such a slight improvement ( if any)?

16 Apr 2019 11:09:46
Lol what Sodenburg in Kefoot are trash. Like Lucic level trash. Kadri is a 30 goal scorer who is playing shut down role because he’s also great defensively. He was Toronto’s best player in game 2 even though he took a stupid penalty. Leafs will keep Kadri as he is the best 3C in the game. Did you also ignore the fact that I said “ taking out team needs. “.

16 Apr 2019 14:37:20
First off kadri was a 30 goal scorer and where are the stats that suggest soderberg or kerfoot are lucic level?

16 Apr 2019 14:43:33
I'm pretty sure both of them had seasons at least equal to your glorified Matt cooke.

16 Apr 2019 15:30:35
Players VBB has added to Lucic level: Soderberg, Kerfoot, Faulk. are there any other recent ones?

16 Apr 2019 20:49:10
Kadri had two more points than Kerfoot this season… yet ones a “30 goal scorer” and the other is “trash”. Barrie is better offensively than Kadri. They’d play him 2C before they make a 1 for 1 trade for Kadri. Lol.

17 Apr 2019 01:08:01
Jamie Benn also had a bad season? Is Barrie worth more then Benn? 1 bad season dosent define a player.

17 Apr 2019 07:01:55
When both Barrie and Kadri are at there best they put up similar offensive numbers. So how’s that just one season?
Kadri has been trending down for 3 seasons now, so what’s his norm? Maybe he’s just a good 50 point guy. Which Kerfoot will probably be.

17 Apr 2019 15:36:33
Is kadri anywhere close to Jamie Benn?

17 Apr 2019 19:54:30
Not sure where you check your stats Ebs. Does tending down for 3 seasons mean career bests and back to back 32 goal seasons? I’ll never defend some of Kadri’s actions but he’s a top 2 center on half the teams in the league.

17 Apr 2019 20:15:34
Stats trending downwords?

17 Apr 2019 20:15:56
Get back to me when Barrie scores 30.

17 Apr 2019 23:15:50
Trending down as in 61, 55 then a 44 point season. I agree with you Leafs17. I just think a 55+ point RD has more value than a second line center.
Get back to me when Kadri gets 45 assist? Does it need to be pointed out forwards typically get more goals than D?

18 Apr 2019 03:38:40
Trending down 61 pts to 55 pts to 44 pts it's certainly not trending up. Lol.

18 Apr 2019 06:28:09
He's a 3rd line centre on most teams in the league just like he is in toronto.

18 Apr 2019 10:55:31
Well he’s a 1c in Montreal. There’s only a handful of teams at most teams where he’d be a 3 C Toronto, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Washington, San Jose And Florida are the only ones and his decrease in points totals are due to a decrease of playing time. He’s playing behind two of the best players in the game. He’s a 70 point player in a 1c position.

18 Apr 2019 14:06:24
No actually he's a number 3 in Montreal too. He had years of opportunities with his only competition being Tyler bozak and he couldn't become a number 1 centre in Toronto so I doubt he be a number 1 on any team in the league.

18 Apr 2019 16:44:51
You can add Boston, Chicago, Philly if Giroux is playing C, Vegas, Winnipeg with Hayes, Tampa. And you can argue Calgary, Nashville and probably a few other teams.

18 Apr 2019 22:14:59
Aighht, so because Kadri does what he did he's apperantky a 3rd liner now? His numbers are only down this year because of Tavares and his concussion. He was on pace for 50 despite a terrible shooting% before his injury. just because of his idiotic decisions doesn't mean he's suddenly a 3C on montreal (definetely not, lol) l Hayes is certainly not better, Nashville has what Turris, he had a rotten season and Granlunds a winger; Kadris better than Johnson considering they play Point on the wing, i'd say Statsny&Kadri are even, Stastneys just having an excellent postseason, Krejci has one good year out of nowhere and he's suddenly better?

I get Kadri did something idiotic. And it was extremely idiotic, mind it. But don't discredit him. Two back to back thirty goal years and he still puts up pro-rated 50 points on the 3rd line with an old Marleau and Nylander who everyones been discrediting. he's a 2L on most teams, and its not much of an argument.

19 Apr 2019 02:53:52
Don’t think anyone said he was a 3rd liner actually. But yeah he would play 3C on a lot of teams. Nuge occasionally plays 3C and he’s definitely not one.

I thought Point centred Kucherov? Well I don’t really think Kadri would be playing ahead of Krejci and his 73 points. And I was thinking Granlund was playing center.

19 Apr 2019 03:23:01
Ok so who do Montreal move to make room for Kadri? Domi? Not a chance. daneault? nope he's better too. Kotkaniemi is going nowhere so maybe Kadri could hold down the 4th line centre spot.

19 Apr 2019 22:59:14
Trending downward from career bests, yes. Back to back 32 goal seasons and he has less talent to play with on the 3rd line this year. 4th line is pretty funny in Montreal though habby. Danault has one good season with 12 goals and he’s better too? If you want to talk about defensive skills, Kadri has shut down some of the best.

19 Apr 2019 23:27:02
Daneult has shut down some of the best too. What's your point?

20 Apr 2019 16:24:15
My point is you saying Danault is better than Kadri is laughable. Wearing red and blue doesn’t make a player better. If Kadri would be 4th line center in Montreal, you guys have the best center depth in the league. A great goalie, coach and the best GM, I don’t understand why they’re golfing.

20 Apr 2019 16:44:59
Since 2012-13 when he was near a point per game, Kadri has been solid. Danault had one good year.

20 Apr 2019 20:01:43
Daneult was injured last year had a decent season before that playing with far less talent then Kadri or getting the power play time he does. This year daneult centered one of the top two way lines in the league And with all that Toronto talent I don't understand how they were only 4 pts ahead of Montreal and were close enough to golf season that guys like you went and hid for 3 weeks. daneult is better 5 on 5 and it isn't even close. Kadri benefited from a good Toronto power play and got 24 of his goals there during his 2 30 goal seasons. Noticed he didn't score near that amount this season when Tavares took some of his pp time?

20 Apr 2019 22:54:10
You are right, I don’t know what I was thinking. Kadri is a 4th liner in Montreal. I don’t know what talent you’re talking about in Toronto. They don’t have a guy like Danault. Also, some of us have a life beyond talking to strangers on the internet, while others lead the post/ reply list. I’m sorry I was hiding, lol.

21 Apr 2019 01:36:56
Feel free to leave again any time.

21 Apr 2019 01:39:58
You were one of the busiest posters on here when the leafs were playing well but then you mysteriously get a life when they sucked down the stretch lol. Vbb was the only leaf fan who was anywhere to be found on here.

21 Apr 2019 06:00:48
I rarely post habby and I only reply when I think I know what I’m talking about. I don’t know everything, not like yourself.

21 Apr 2019 16:53:42
Ok yes I've noticed that. But not knowing what your talking about hasn't stopped you from continuing to post on this thread.

22 Apr 2019 04:44:46
Kadri is better than Danault. I’ll let you have the last word now. I know what that means to you.

22 Apr 2019 14:16:47
Ok cause it would be a shame for this thread to end on such a biased lie.

15 Apr 2019 15:08:55
Edmonton Oilers -
• (RHD) Evan Bouchard
• (RW) Kailer Yamamoto
• (LHD) Kris Russell
• (2019) 8th Overall Selection
Los Angeles Kings -
• (RHD) Drew Doughty

Edmonton Oilers -
• (C) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
• (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi
Anaheim Ducks -
• (RW) Ondrej Kase
• (RW) Jakob Silfverberg

Edmonton Oilers -
• (RHD) Matt Benning
Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RW) Connor Brown

Edmonton Oilers -
• (RW) Sam Gagner
• (2019) 38th Overall Selection
Arizona Coyotes -
• (LW) Lawson Crouse

Edmonton Oilers -
• (LHD) Andrej Sekera
• (2019) 100th Overall Selection
New Jersey Devils -
• (2020) 6th-Round Pick

FA Signings:
• (LW) Colin Wilson (2.25M x 2YR)
• (LW) Carl Hagelin (2.25M x 2YR)

Oilers Projected Lines -

Carl Hagelin - Connor McDavid - Jakob Silfverberg
Colin Wilson - Leon Draisaitl - Ondrej Kase
Milan Lucic - Jujhar Khaira - Connor Brown
Lawson Crouse - Colby Cave - Zack Kassian

Oscar Klefbom - Drew Doughty
Darnell Nurse - Adam Larsson
Caleb Jones - Ethan Bear


15 Apr 2019 19:48:03
Leafs already said no to that deal, they have more interest in Khaira.

15 Apr 2019 20:55:20
I keep hearing that the leafs are interested in khaira and I don't know why. who would the leafs take out of their line up to add that plug?

15 Apr 2019 21:10:57
Hahahaha these are good.

13 Apr 2019 13:47:41
Edmonton Trades
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019


13 Apr 2019 16:29:32
Idk why you even post stuff like this. like stop.

13 Apr 2019 18:42:24
What's wrong with my post?

13 Apr 2019 19:38:51
Because how are oilers suppose to support Browns contract which is a little more than Benning's AND take on that bad one of zaitsev which oilers have absolutely no purpose for acquiring him or his contract and the fact he is even include din this trade that's why its dumb and you're literally the biggest idiot ever and you have not realized it like its embarassing your posts this one is horrible you homer.

13 Apr 2019 19:39:56
Notdeluaional don’t even bother explaining he’s still not going to understand why this is a brutal post.

13 Apr 2019 20:13:03
Jk too late hahaha.

13 Apr 2019 01:41:53
Rangers Trade
1st Round Pick 2019

Leafs Trade
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 03:09:23
Terrible for rangers. Rangers ask for Marner if they trade that pick.

13 Apr 2019 03:22:51
Which rangers 1st pick? I sure hope it’s not the high one lol.

13 Apr 2019 04:51:34
Classic pinball.

13 Apr 2019 01:40:02
I have a blow the doors type of Draft Day Trade Proposal.

Rangers Trade
1st Round Pick 2019
6th Round Pick 2019

Leafs Trade
Borgman (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 03:13:19
It blows alright.

13 Apr 2019 18:58:19
I don't understand what the rangers are getting. Do they want Kadri? They're in a rebuild, and want the young guys to get playing time. Also, why give up a first to help leafs shed contacts?

13 Apr 2019 01:39:53
Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

This is the type of Trade both Teams will be looking at on Draft Day, Salary when Kapanen is resigned will be about even for both Teams, in my view it's pretty fair as Kapanen will step into the Top Line and DHamilton is a Top Defenceman that had an off year this season, Sparks is still going to be a solid backup and Carolina needs some youth back there.

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 04:58:16
You know what like honestly interesting post. 👍🏻.

13 Apr 2019 05:12:04
I don’t think it’s enough from Toronto. We were just shown that they have no faith in Sparks by getting another Goalie, that means he has next to no value, and I don’t think Kap gets Dougie straight up.

13 Apr 2019 14:00:52
Kapanen has 1 solid season in the nhl but Dougie has 3 fantastic ones and a couple solid ones so I don't with only 2 years difference so I don't see how this is fair game.

13 Apr 2019 01:36:54
Ottawa Senators -
• (RW) Bobby Ryan (25% Salary Retention)
• (2020) 2nd-Round Pick
New Jersey Devils -
• (2019) 6th-Round Pick

(Bobby Ryan get's to play really close to his home, Devils add more scoring touch and Senators start their rebuild)

Ottawa Senators -
• (LW) Mikkel Boedker
Edmonton Oilers -
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick

(Oilers add more scoring touch and acquire another winger who has 4m x 1yr remaining, Senators acquire another draft pick)

Ottawa Senators -
• (C) Chris Tierney
Calgary Flames -
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
• (LHD) Oliver Kylington

(Flames add a bottom six center to add to their scoring depth to possibly slot beside Sam Bennett making Mark Jankowski expandable, Senators add what could turn into a Top 4 LHD and a draft pick)

Ottawa Senators -
• (LW) Zack Smith (50% Salary Retention)
Arizona Coyotes -
• (2019) 4th-Round Pick

(Coyotes get another veteran on a cheap contract due to salary retention to play with the young guys and guide them to the playoffs and add a more scoring touch if he can stay healthy, senators add a draft pick)

Ottawa Senators -
• (RHD) Christian Jaros
• (2020) 4th-Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RW) Connor Brown

(Senators adds a bottom 6 winger and toronto adds another top 6 rhd)

Ottawa Senators -
• (LHD) Mark Boroweicki
New York Islanders -
• (LW) Andrew Ladd
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (C) Blade Jenkins

(Senators adds some veteran depth but taking on the contract for some future assets and islanders get some breathing room and add a top 6 physical lhd)

Free Agent Signings:
- Jordan Eberle (4.25M x 3YR)
- Jake Gardiner (5M x 3YR)
- Jordan Weal (1.75M x 2YR)
- Andrej Sustr (1.25M x 2YR)

Ottawa Senators Lines -

Brady Tkachuk - Colin White - Drake Batherson
Alex Formenton - Jean Pageau - Jordan Eberle
Andrew Ladd - Jordan Weal - Connor Brown
Brian Gibbons - Oscar Lindberg - Max Veronneau

Thomas Chabot - Dylan Demelo
Jake Gardiner - Cody Ceci
Oliver Kylington - Andrej Sustr

Quick rebuild and already look like a decent team.

13 Apr 2019 03:17:53
Flames already have c depth. like 8 0f there 12 forwards are natural centers and would think theyd want to keep kylington for cost controlled players that can legit play nhl.

15 Apr 2019 15:13:58
Gardiner will sign for more that $5M for sure.

09 Apr 2019 20:46:30
Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RW) William Nylander
Arizona Coyotes -
• (LHD) Jakob Chychrun

Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (C) Nazem Kadri 
Carolina Hurricanes -
• (RHD) Justin Faulk

Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RHD) Nikita Zaitsev
• (LHD) Timothy Liljegren
Edmonton Oilers -
• (RHD) Matt Benning

Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (RHD) Ron Hainsey
• (LHD) Travis Dermott
Arizona Coyotes -
• (2020) 2nd-Round Pick

Free Agent Signings
• (RW) Jordan Eberle (4.25M x 3YR)
• (C) Marcus Johansson (3.25M x 3YR)

Zach Hyman - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Andreas Johnsson - Auston Matthews - Jordan Eberle
Patrick Marleau - Marcus Johansson - Kasperi Kapanen
Trevor Moore - Fredrick Gauthier - Connor Brown

Jakob Chychrun - Morgan Rielly
Jake Muzzin - Justin Faulk
Rasmus Sandin - Matt Benning

09 Apr 2019 23:57:10
I’d rather the leafs Buy out Tavares, Marner and Mathews then trade a 7th round pick for Faulk. Faulk is terrible he is the worst player in the game defensively. Dermotte is replacing Gardiner as the 2nd pairing LHD would be idiotic to trade him for anything short of an upgrade. Not a chance leafs make that trade with Edmonton. I get the point of dumping Zaitsev but not at the expense of Lilijgren and btw he is a RHD. Benning holds no value.

Nylander for Chychrun isn’t terrible.

10 Apr 2019 01:28:24
chych > willy
kadri > faulk

seriously the price to downgrade zaits to benning is lilj? for reals? contract aside that doesn't help the leafs at all.

hainsy is a free agent. dermott worth more than a 2nd to me.

10 Apr 2019 03:27:22
No from leafs idk why they’d make that lol
No from leafs
Huge no from oil come on bruh like what
Don’t know why leafs would trade Dermott.

10 Apr 2019 04:00:24
Why would leafs trade dermott and Hainsey for a 2nd? Hainsey is ufa after this year and dermott is worth more than a mid 2nd. Also wouldn’t want to give up Liljegren at this point to dump Zaitsev, not for Benning anyways. Personally I like the 1st trade but also think leafs could get s better return if they were to trade kadri.

10 Apr 2019 04:57:20
Liljegren is a RD and I’d rather not give up on him yet. Hainsey is a UFA and I say Toronto definitely keeps Dermott, especially if Gardiner walks. I’d be ok with a left side of Reilly, Muzzin and Dermott. I understand wanting to get rid of Zaitsev’s contract but there has to be a better way. The right side defense obviously needs an upgrade. Nylander for the best RD they can get would be the way I’d like to see it. Sorry but I also think Kadri stays until he’s up for a new contract. Toronto is definitely going to have cap problems and may have to lose someone, however I don’t think they will need to shake the roster up that much.

10 Apr 2019 16:47:39
confirmed that faulk banged vbs mom, no other reason for him to hate on him so badly lol.

10 Apr 2019 19:07:27
Notdelusional2 ahahaha

10 Apr 2019 20:55:50
Faulk for Kadri is a joke no other way of saying it. Kadri=RNH. RNH for Faulk? No Edmonton doesn’t touch that.

10 Apr 2019 21:41:36
Before Nuges 70 point season I’m pretty sure the rumours were a small add to RNH for Faulk. In my eyes his value definitely went up a little after this season but he was undervalued before. I agree no from Toronto though.

11 Apr 2019 15:20:25
Lol too bad Dubas already said nylander will not be traded as long as he runs thing lol.

11 Apr 2019 15:40:32
Oilers need RNH more than they need Faulk so yeah we obviously wouldn't touch that! Kadri is expendable (even tho i do not think leafs should trade him)

11 Apr 2019 22:04:01
Well Kadri is in the Same position as Nuge 3rd C on the depth chart only difference is Nuge moved up on the wing.

12 Apr 2019 04:48:06
We can afford Zaitsev? I don’t think so. Lucic + Zaitsev is $10M in bad contracts. Why we do that? Is not a good trade. We have Bouchard. Why then do we need Liljegren?

12 Apr 2019 16:40:50
Nylander is untradeable, he's pretty much a cap dump. .5 ppg at his price, no team is going to touch that. Especially not getting a good young dman.

03 Apr 2019 22:05:14
Leafs: Auston Matthews, Andreas Johnsson (and/or) Kasperi Kapanen, 1st round pick some year?

Edmonton Oilers: Connor McDavid, Jesse Puljujarvi

I know this would never happen, but it's kind of realistic and fun. It would also be insane. Leafs may get to keep one of Johnsson or Kapanen.

What do you think?

03 Apr 2019 22:39:50
Leafs would have to add to that.

03 Apr 2019 22:47:03
Add Reilly, then maybe. I personally still wouldnt.

04 Apr 2019 01:12:23
Its going to be Auston + Mo/ Mitch for Connor by himself. i'd rather build round our core tbh than give that up for Connor, but Edmonton won't sell him any cheaper.

04 Apr 2019 18:14:42
Thats not enough for Connor, but to just throw it out there to see what you guys think, how far off is the value in a Matthews+Nylander for McDavid?

04 Apr 2019 20:49:22
Matthews + Nylander = not a chance lol at all. Especially with the season Nylander is having lmao brutal.

05 Apr 2019 03:11:34
Nylander turns the puck over every time he touches the puck most games. He should’ve been a big boy and not listened to daddy when he decided to hold out.

05 Apr 2019 15:44:13
The thing is neither team would make this trade oilers would not trade mcdavid and leafs won't pay what it will cost.

07 Apr 2019 13:11:43
Leafs would be better with McDavid but at what cost?
Leafs are strong at Centre and RWing but much thinner at LWing, the Leafs are strong at LDefence but thin on RDefence, so in the off season those are the areas they should look at, at the same time they have Drafted and signed some good RHanded DMen but they probably aren't ready for another 2 years from this season, so to me the McDavid possible Trade won't be what they are looking into even though he would be great in the Blue and White.

08 Apr 2019 10:07:15
McJesus is great. Is Mathews reeeeallly that far behind?!? No.
The "upgrade" from mathews to mcdavid isn't worth it in this "fun" deal.

02 Apr 2019 04:24:06
A few trades and changes to the oilers that might help! Oilers need to clear cap space.

Oilers: puljujarvi + Lucic (possibly add 3rd round pick or B Prospect)
Sens: Pageau (Sens need to get to the cap + puljujarvi is a good prospect for a rebuilding team. Also, Sens can retain 50% of Lucic’s salary and trade him to a team that needs toughness like Pitts or Canes or other team that need a defender against Tom Wilson)

Oilers: Benning
Leafs: Brown

Oilers: 1st Rd + Russel
Habs: 1st Rd + Shaw (Shaw has one extra season signed to + Oilers 1st is higher most likely)

Oilers: 1st from Habs + Bear
Avs: Barrie

Resign: Chaison 2m x 2 yrs

Sign Free Agent: Carr or Pirri (Vegas)
Mezark or Nilsson

Line Up:
Drai (8.5) - McDavid (12.5) - Kassian (2)
Brown (2) - RNH (6) - Chaison (2)
Ganger (3) - Pageau (3) - Shaw (3)
Khaira (1) - Brodziak (1) - Carr (2)
Cave (700) - Currie (700)

Klefbom (4) - Larson (4)
Nurse (3) - Barrie (5.5)
Sekera (5.5) - Jones (650)
Gravel (700)

Koskinen (4.5)
Mazerk (2)

Shy of $80 m which leaves 3 m room for a trade during season if needed.

Some players here can play up and down the lineup depending on who is hot or not.

02 Apr 2019 07:26:04
Every trade is good except the colorado one. Colorado isn't in rebuild mode and if they were Barrie would get more

02 Apr 2019 14:17:26
Tbh it really depends on how high EDM 1st is for MTL to do that trade as Shaw has rebounded and is fitting in nicely and is around a pace of 60 points if he played the whole season. Yes I agree that’s not what’s expected from him but is it unreasonable to expect 40? Plus he plays with grit and heart. While Russel is basically another Alzner. And habs have enough of those 5-7 D don’t need one for 4 mil per year.

02 Apr 2019 15:19:25
Who is Mazerk? Is that supposed to be Mrazek?

02 Apr 2019 16:45:39
Not a chance Oil move back in the 1st to go from Russell to Shaw.

02 Apr 2019 17:39:19
Oilers are not moving their 2019 1st.

02 Apr 2019 18:42:11
Leafs said no to Brown for Benning + Khaira, so Benning alone does not get Brown, no. Is no good trade.

Why Oiler’s want Barrie? He’s free agent, yes? We must needs just players to stay. No rentals. Can we afford to sign Barrie next year? I dong think so.

02 Apr 2019 21:44:48
I have a hard time believing the Leafs turned down Benning and Khaira for Brown. Those are two depth guys for the Oilers that actually have value IMO. There both young, physical and inexpensive.

02 Apr 2019 22:05:19
Bro there is no way Leafs turned down both Khaira and Benning. The actual offer was Brown for Benning, but Toronto was interested in Khaira instead. As per TSN twitter.

03 Apr 2019 16:24:39
how does that help the oilers you still got bottom 6 players playing on the 2nd line with rnh.

04 Apr 2019 03:54:25
I did not make this up, no. I am not so smart to make this up. Benning plus Khaira or Kassian. Toronto says no. I read it several times. LWOH.

05 Apr 2019 16:54:49
I just don’t think there’s anyway they’d say no to Benning and Kassian. Kassian would be awesome for the leafs. Love him as a player.

05 Apr 2019 22:20:44

They probably would say no, not bc value, but because of cap. If we’re trading Brown, we want next to no salary coming back, not more, even if the value is good.

01 Apr 2019 22:26:23
Carolina is looking to trade fox as he confirmed he will not sign there. Obviously he carry's extremely little value because he is essentially a UFA and controls where he'll sign fully.

Toronto- Adam Fox

Carolina- 2nd round pick 2019

Fox would get the opportunity to be a top 4 dman on Toronto and could opt to sign there instead of playing his final year at Harvard

02 Apr 2019 01:36:01
He's a real good prospect and he was the only chance for Carolina to make that trade close to even. If a team knew he would sign with them he's worth much more then a 2nd. But not knowing whether or not he will sign makes it difficult to get anything of value for him now.

02 Apr 2019 02:40:59
I’d be so chapped if this happened wow but definite possibility!

02 Apr 2019 02:43:34
What about a later pick and bracco leafs are deep in wingers so could afford to move him. Carolina want some flashy players to add.

02 Apr 2019 17:50:11
Heard a couple days ago it's almost certain he's going to nyr, nyi or Boston weather through trade or sign after next season.

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