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21 Apr 2019 01:58:57
Fixing the Oilers.

EDM: Kapanen, Brown
TO: Larsson, Khaira

EDM: Grabner, 2019 1st rp (14)
ARI: Lucic, 2019 1st rp (8), Cave/Gambardella

EDM: Ristolainen
BUF: Benning, Grabner, 2019 2nd rp

EDM: Pageau, 2019 2nd rp
OTT: Sekera, Puljujärvi

EDM: Parayko, 2020 5th rp
STL: Yamamoto, Russell

EDM: 6th rp
Any Team: Manning

Ferland 5yrs @ $5M
Hathaway 1yr @ $1.1M
Pirri 1yr @ $0.9M
McElhinney 2yrs @ $1.5M

21 Apr 2019 10:56:14
5 mil for ferland is way too much, i'd say 3.75m for 3yr. Definitely not 5 x 5. Calgary will resign Hathaway, McEhlinney gets more aswell.

21 Apr 2019 10:57:53
Yamamoto and russell for parayko and a pick? Lool how does st louis add? Wtf no from edmonton, arizona, buffalo, ottawa, st louis.

21 Apr 2019 14:52:54
I have to say trade number 3 is so bad I thought this was a troll trade.

21 Apr 2019 15:32:20
Paryanko And Risto trades are gross.

21 Apr 2019 19:11:44
Change Arizona pick to 2nd on #2 than maybe #1 and 2# is only possible.

21 Apr 2019 01:56:25
Colorado Trades
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

21 Apr 2019 21:45:03
No good thoughts.

15 Apr 2019 15:09:41
Draft Day Trade.

Colorado Trades
1st Round Pick 2019 (16th Overall)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Colorado will be looking for a 2nd Line Centre and Kadri fits the bill, they also have the Cap Space to take on the extra 3.5 million with Zaitsev added in the Deal.

Toronto gets that Top RHanded shooting Defenceman, saves 3.5 million to help in there resignings and gets there 1st Round Pick back from the Muzzin Trade.

Thoughts ?

15 Apr 2019 18:09:46
Colarado says no. Even if you remove Zaitsev and drop the 1st to a 2nd its closer but don't think they would do it.

15 Apr 2019 19:07:27
This is about as bad as it gets the aves don’t trade Barrie straight up for kadri for sure they don’t give up a 1st and take back a cap dump.

15 Apr 2019 20:19:24
Jeez, where does this reductions value for Kadri come from? He wouldn’t get you Barrie straight up let alone a first AND Colorado taking on Zaitsev.

15 Apr 2019 20:44:22
I think Kadri for Barrie is an even trade taking out team needs. Kadri would be the 2 C in Colorado.

15 Apr 2019 21:43:37
Rumour has it that Colorado is picking 4th and could very well be picking a centre, maybe Dozens, Dach or Zegras.
Not sure many teams want a headache like Kadri.

16 Apr 2019 00:23:41
@vbb let's just say for arguments sake he's better then soderberg or kerfoot which I don't think but why would Colorado trade their number 1 dman for such a slight improvement ( if any)?

16 Apr 2019 11:09:46
Lol what Sodenburg in Kefoot are trash. Like Lucic level trash. Kadri is a 30 goal scorer who is playing shut down role because he’s also great defensively. He was Toronto’s best player in game 2 even though he took a stupid penalty. Leafs will keep Kadri as he is the best 3C in the game. Did you also ignore the fact that I said “ taking out team needs. “.

16 Apr 2019 14:37:20
First off kadri was a 30 goal scorer and where are the stats that suggest soderberg or kerfoot are lucic level?

16 Apr 2019 14:43:33
I'm pretty sure both of them had seasons at least equal to your glorified Matt cooke.

16 Apr 2019 15:30:35
Players VBB has added to Lucic level: Soderberg, Kerfoot, Faulk. are there any other recent ones?

16 Apr 2019 20:49:10
Kadri had two more points than Kerfoot this season… yet ones a “30 goal scorer” and the other is “trash”. Barrie is better offensively than Kadri. They’d play him 2C before they make a 1 for 1 trade for Kadri. Lol.

17 Apr 2019 01:08:01
Jamie Benn also had a bad season? Is Barrie worth more then Benn? 1 bad season dosent define a player.

17 Apr 2019 07:01:55
When both Barrie and Kadri are at there best they put up similar offensive numbers. So how’s that just one season?
Kadri has been trending down for 3 seasons now, so what’s his norm? Maybe he’s just a good 50 point guy. Which Kerfoot will probably be.

17 Apr 2019 15:36:33
Is kadri anywhere close to Jamie Benn?

17 Apr 2019 19:54:30
Not sure where you check your stats Ebs. Does tending down for 3 seasons mean career bests and back to back 32 goal seasons? I’ll never defend some of Kadri’s actions but he’s a top 2 center on half the teams in the league.

17 Apr 2019 20:15:34
Stats trending downwords?

17 Apr 2019 20:15:56
Get back to me when Barrie scores 30.

17 Apr 2019 23:15:50
Trending down as in 61, 55 then a 44 point season. I agree with you Leafs17. I just think a 55+ point RD has more value than a second line center.
Get back to me when Kadri gets 45 assist? Does it need to be pointed out forwards typically get more goals than D?

18 Apr 2019 03:38:40
Trending down 61 pts to 55 pts to 44 pts it's certainly not trending up. Lol.

18 Apr 2019 06:28:09
He's a 3rd line centre on most teams in the league just like he is in toronto.

18 Apr 2019 10:55:31
Well he’s a 1c in Montreal. There’s only a handful of teams at most teams where he’d be a 3 C Toronto, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Washington, San Jose And Florida are the only ones and his decrease in points totals are due to a decrease of playing time. He’s playing behind two of the best players in the game. He’s a 70 point player in a 1c position.

18 Apr 2019 14:06:24
No actually he's a number 3 in Montreal too. He had years of opportunities with his only competition being Tyler bozak and he couldn't become a number 1 centre in Toronto so I doubt he be a number 1 on any team in the league.

18 Apr 2019 16:44:51
You can add Boston, Chicago, Philly if Giroux is playing C, Vegas, Winnipeg with Hayes, Tampa. And you can argue Calgary, Nashville and probably a few other teams.

18 Apr 2019 22:14:59
Aighht, so because Kadri does what he did he's apperantky a 3rd liner now? His numbers are only down this year because of Tavares and his concussion. He was on pace for 50 despite a terrible shooting% before his injury. just because of his idiotic decisions doesn't mean he's suddenly a 3C on montreal (definetely not, lol) l Hayes is certainly not better, Nashville has what Turris, he had a rotten season and Granlunds a winger; Kadris better than Johnson considering they play Point on the wing, i'd say Statsny&Kadri are even, Stastneys just having an excellent postseason, Krejci has one good year out of nowhere and he's suddenly better?

I get Kadri did something idiotic. And it was extremely idiotic, mind it. But don't discredit him. Two back to back thirty goal years and he still puts up pro-rated 50 points on the 3rd line with an old Marleau and Nylander who everyones been discrediting. he's a 2L on most teams, and its not much of an argument.

19 Apr 2019 02:53:52
Don’t think anyone said he was a 3rd liner actually. But yeah he would play 3C on a lot of teams. Nuge occasionally plays 3C and he’s definitely not one.

I thought Point centred Kucherov? Well I don’t really think Kadri would be playing ahead of Krejci and his 73 points. And I was thinking Granlund was playing center.

19 Apr 2019 03:23:01
Ok so who do Montreal move to make room for Kadri? Domi? Not a chance. daneault? nope he's better too. Kotkaniemi is going nowhere so maybe Kadri could hold down the 4th line centre spot.

19 Apr 2019 22:59:14
Trending downward from career bests, yes. Back to back 32 goal seasons and he has less talent to play with on the 3rd line this year. 4th line is pretty funny in Montreal though habby. Danault has one good season with 12 goals and he’s better too? If you want to talk about defensive skills, Kadri has shut down some of the best.

19 Apr 2019 23:27:02
Daneult has shut down some of the best too. What's your point?

20 Apr 2019 16:24:15
My point is you saying Danault is better than Kadri is laughable. Wearing red and blue doesn’t make a player better. If Kadri would be 4th line center in Montreal, you guys have the best center depth in the league. A great goalie, coach and the best GM, I don’t understand why they’re golfing.

20 Apr 2019 16:44:59
Since 2012-13 when he was near a point per game, Kadri has been solid. Danault had one good year.

20 Apr 2019 20:01:43
Daneult was injured last year had a decent season before that playing with far less talent then Kadri or getting the power play time he does. This year daneult centered one of the top two way lines in the league And with all that Toronto talent I don't understand how they were only 4 pts ahead of Montreal and were close enough to golf season that guys like you went and hid for 3 weeks. daneult is better 5 on 5 and it isn't even close. Kadri benefited from a good Toronto power play and got 24 of his goals there during his 2 30 goal seasons. Noticed he didn't score near that amount this season when Tavares took some of his pp time?

20 Apr 2019 22:54:10
You are right, I don’t know what I was thinking. Kadri is a 4th liner in Montreal. I don’t know what talent you’re talking about in Toronto. They don’t have a guy like Danault. Also, some of us have a life beyond talking to strangers on the internet, while others lead the post/ reply list. I’m sorry I was hiding, lol.

21 Apr 2019 01:36:56
Feel free to leave again any time.

21 Apr 2019 01:39:58
You were one of the busiest posters on here when the leafs were playing well but then you mysteriously get a life when they sucked down the stretch lol. Vbb was the only leaf fan who was anywhere to be found on here.

21 Apr 2019 06:00:48
I rarely post habby and I only reply when I think I know what I’m talking about. I don’t know everything, not like yourself.

21 Apr 2019 16:53:42
Ok yes I've noticed that. But not knowing what your talking about hasn't stopped you from continuing to post on this thread.

22 Apr 2019 04:44:46
Kadri is better than Danault. I’ll let you have the last word now. I know what that means to you.

22 Apr 2019 14:16:47
Ok cause it would be a shame for this thread to end on such a biased lie.

13 Apr 2019 01:41:53
Rangers Trade
1st Round Pick 2019

Leafs Trade
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 03:09:23
Terrible for rangers. Rangers ask for Marner if they trade that pick.

13 Apr 2019 03:22:51
Which rangers 1st pick? I sure hope it’s not the high one lol.

13 Apr 2019 04:51:34
Classic pinball.

13 Apr 2019 01:40:02
I have a blow the doors type of Draft Day Trade Proposal.

Rangers Trade
1st Round Pick 2019
6th Round Pick 2019

Leafs Trade
Borgman (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 03:13:19
It blows alright.

13 Apr 2019 18:58:19
I don't understand what the rangers are getting. Do they want Kadri? They're in a rebuild, and want the young guys to get playing time. Also, why give up a first to help leafs shed contacts?

13 Apr 2019 01:39:53
Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

This is the type of Trade both Teams will be looking at on Draft Day, Salary when Kapanen is resigned will be about even for both Teams, in my view it's pretty fair as Kapanen will step into the Top Line and DHamilton is a Top Defenceman that had an off year this season, Sparks is still going to be a solid backup and Carolina needs some youth back there.

Thoughts ?

13 Apr 2019 04:58:16
You know what like honestly interesting post. 👍🏻.

13 Apr 2019 05:12:04
I don’t think it’s enough from Toronto. We were just shown that they have no faith in Sparks by getting another Goalie, that means he has next to no value, and I don’t think Kap gets Dougie straight up.

13 Apr 2019 14:00:52
Kapanen has 1 solid season in the nhl but Dougie has 3 fantastic ones and a couple solid ones so I don't with only 2 years difference so I don't see how this is fair game.

07 Apr 2019 13:15:38
Big Changes for the Oilers !!!

EDM: Cousins
ARI: Lucic, Cave(or Gambardella), 2020 1st rp, 2019 4th rp

EDM: Brown, Kapanen, 2019 4th rp
TO: Larsson, Khaira

EDM: Parayko, 2019 2nd rp
STL: Russell, Rattie, 2019 1st rp

*NOTE; If Oilers 1st rp is in the top 5, then STL gives Oilers their 2020 1st rp.

EDM: Ristolainen, 2019 6th rp
BUF: Sekera, Puljujärvi, Bear

Ferland 5yrs @ $3M
Hathaway 2yrs @ $1M
McElhinney 1yr @ $1M
OR Kinkaid 1yr @ $2M

07 Apr 2019 16:30:10
Absolutely no idea why Arizona would agree to that.
No from oilers.
Hahaha wow easy no from St. Louis. Bruh. Even if top 10.
No from oilers Risto is ass.
Ferland would never sign that he’s going to be seeking more.

07 Apr 2019 19:01:03
Ristolainen can move the puck though. If that was enough for him I’d definitely do it.

07 Apr 2019 20:45:56
It's not anywhere near enough for him.

07 Apr 2019 23:12:36
All those players must really want to must really want to play in Edmonton for those low ball offers.

07 Apr 2019 23:14:10
Risto just won the nhl masters and that’s definitely not something oilers need. He can move the puck and he’s got a big shot sure but he’s horrendous in his own end. Sekera and bear are both capable puck movers so saying he can move the puck is pretty irrelevant I think.

08 Apr 2019 01:03:28
Eh, its basically Pulj for Risto tbh. Sekera doesn't have that much value, I mean, 5.5 Million for the next 2 years isn't really a good contract and after all his injuries, its unlikely someone bites on him, even for cheap. I'd say Bear nearly insulates his value, and then you got Pulj+ a little for Risto. After Dahlin, although Risto's +/ - wasn't great, its really not everything you can base the dman on [look at Ron Hainsey. lol]. I'd take him anyday on Toronto for a package of like Kapanen+Zaitsev+Borgman, but j my opinion.

08 Apr 2019 05:19:36
Getting rid of Zaitsevs contract is the key part in that, does buffalo think Kap and borg (not sure who he is tbh) are good enough to lose one of their “top” dmen and take back a bad contract.

13 Apr 2019 01:40:35
We don’t need both Ristolainen and Parayko. Larsson is better than Ristolainen. We keep him.

28 Mar 2019 11:30:08
Edmonton Trades
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

For Edmonton they will be making big changes, this type of Trade starts that.
For Toronto they have to shed Cap to resign Marner, Kapanen and AJohnsson and this Trade helps.

Thoughts ?

28 Mar 2019 15:20:01
oh so ya edmonton will just take on that huge contract like they are able to afford that. lol. brutal.

25 Mar 2019 20:03:21

St Louis:
Robert Thomas
2nd in 2020

26 Mar 2019 00:42:47
Although that is a great offer I can't see Chevy trading Laine at this time. As a 20 year old in the last 3 seasons Laine has scored the 3rd most goals in the NHL just behind Ove and Kucherov so it will be hard to get the Jets to trade him.

26 Mar 2019 02:28:16
Rather have Laine.

27 Mar 2019 18:03:49
I don’t see anything in there that would make the Jets consider this deal.

28 Mar 2019 11:24:04
Both say no.

28 Mar 2019 11:27:19
Hells no brah.

Thomas will be the next #1 center for our team. Bokk is looking to be a future 30 goal guy. Schenn is a great 2c and top 3 winger. We should resign him.

Sorry we don't want laine or his problems.

28 Mar 2019 11:34:49
Blues would rather keep Thomas, (future #1c) and Schenn (top 3 winger or #2c) Bokk future top 6 winger and the pick.

Sorry Laine wants to play fortnite to much.

28 Mar 2019 19:35:57
Mr colt in other threads you rip kappy and sandin. Ecause they don't have enough to show that they are good as projected but then blues prospects are all studs even though they have done rubbish. I don't think bokk will stay around to long I think he a buster.

29 Mar 2019 03:21:47
Lol Mike. Yes all Blues prospects are studs whether proven or not. Other teams prospects must prove their worth to the Russian tank/ Colt/ Redwing.

29 Mar 2019 17:43:57
Leafs 17 your just mad cause you didn't get parayko or petro.

Thomas is 19 year old rookie
8 goals 22 assists 30 points in 64 games. Has been playing center and winger is fast and amazing.

Bokk as a 19 year old in the highest Swedish elite league has
8 goals 15 assists 23 points in 47 games. That's good for a young rookie.

Schenn is amazing.

Enough said laine has issues and is not a center which is a team need for blues.

Not good deal for blues.

29 Mar 2019 17:51:47
Mike let me address your response. Kappy is a great young speedy winger. He started out hot and cooled off. He defiantly has potential to be better currently he is 20 goal 40+ pt player. Nothing wrong with that at all. Sandin looks to be top 4 nothing wrong with that. The reason i made reference to these two is because you wanted Petro or parayko. One is top 10 elite dman. the other is top pairing dman both are RHD wich are a position that is highly sought after. Kappy and sanding alone are not enough for either player. On top of that. Blues had 3 highly toted top 4 dmen who scored hella points in junior and NCAA. Jordan Schmaltz, Vince Dunn, jake Wallman. After 2-3 years only one of them made the NHL. The other two just never made the Jump. That happens that's called the NHL. So to sit here and say i dog your prospects and tote mine is wrong

I meerely stated that i would rather keep my future #1center. who at 19 has 8G 30pts in 64 games.

Bokk is also performing extremly well in the elite league.

Schenn is amazing. So no thanks.

30 Mar 2019 02:23:41
You’re so full of it tank. You were talking about Schmaltz and Wallman just the same as all the other prospects. I was the only person on this site defending you for a long time while every single person called you out. How quickly you forget. Maybe if you stuck to one username instead of hiding, you’d be able to keep track. Changing your username and hiding because people were picking on you shows your true character. Keep up the bias bs!

30 Mar 2019 02:32:06
Yes I would like Petro or Parayko but take it easy. Parayko’s 27 points is not necessarily tearing up the league. If he was left handed nobody would even talk about him, other than yourself.

30 Mar 2019 02:40:24
Schenn has 49 pts in 67 games and is amazing. Take a look at some of the leafs stats and let me know whi’s Amazing on the leafs please. Looking forward to hearing back from you.

30 Mar 2019 22:32:38
Leafs parayko is a defenseman first something your team truly needs. He has had 30+ point seasons ever year. He has played the #1 role for stretches last two years when petro was injured. Would it be nice if he got more points yes, but I am perfectly fine with his advanced stats and stopping other teams from scoring.

31 Mar 2019 16:17:20
I knew you’d say that Colt. When talking shut down defenseman, never once have I heard Parayko’s name. I’m not going to argue with you because it’s a no win situation. All I said was Mike nailed it, you think every St. Louis prospect is a stud while other teams prospects are unproven.

31 Mar 2019 23:58:24
First of all parayko is a shut down puck moving defenseman with a he'll of a shot. If he is just a so so guy then why does every team including you and yours want him. There isn't one Dman on your team besides Reilly that is better. Parayko would be the #1rhd on your team end of story. No reason to be bhurt about not getting him.

01 Apr 2019 12:40:24
With every comment you avoid addressing the fact that you think all Blues prospects are worth gold and other teams prospects remain unproven. Or the fact you’ve had 4-5 usernames. Your only defense Is that others are butt hurt. Get over yourself and the blues and address the things people call you out on. I wish Shankar would come back to make you change your username again, lol.

23 Mar 2019 21:22:08
Islanders Trade
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

This is the type of Trade the Leafs will have to make this off season, obviously with the Draft Picks it's a Draft Day Trade.
Uncle Lou knows both Kapanen and Zaitsev so see a match here, adding Pulock is a good move for the Leafs also plus getting rid of Zaitsev's Contract helps the Cap as well, as for replacing Kapanen with what Bracco has done in the AHL this year he is the obvious replacement.

Thoughts ?

24 Mar 2019 01:07:59
My thoughts are that pulock has way more value then kapenen and what you add from the leafs has very little to no value.

24 Mar 2019 14:32:01
I wouldn’t say way more value.

24 Mar 2019 18:20:05
I would and I'll use logic that some of you guys are quick to point out when comparing players. Right shot dmen have mure value then wingers right? So when a top pair rhd is compared to a 2nd/ 3rd line winger then that means the dman has way more value. Right?

24 Mar 2019 21:30:48
Pulock definitely carries more value than Kapanen, like habby said with his position and handness, but I very much am a fan of Kapanen and if he were to be traded he could be a big piece in acquiring a good rhd.

25 Mar 2019 01:53:04
I like kapenen too but you would have to add something good with him to get pulock.

25 Mar 2019 12:09:04
He’s not a top pairing dman on a good defensive team like Nashville.

25 Mar 2019 13:36:25
But he would be on the leafs and is still a solid top 4 d-man.

25 Mar 2019 14:47:31
@vbbb it could be argued that Morgan Reilly is not a top pair dman in Nashville what's your point? Fact is pulock is the number 1 dman on a team that's still in a battle for 1st place in their division and he's still developing.

25 Mar 2019 15:50:26
Habby again with the fax 👍🏻.

25 Mar 2019 16:42:31
Pulock is worth at least twice Kappy. 1 40 ish point season for Kappy on a team with 3 real solid centers dosnt mean he worth a 23 year old RHD who plays with an below average defensemen yet still manage to be a solid defensive defensemen and get 30+ point at the same time. You better package Lilijegreen with Kappy if you want to make an offer for Pulock and even then Isles prob keeps Pulock.

25 Mar 2019 16:43:14
In this trade Isles are taking a cap dump back in Zaitsev wich would take a 2nd and B prospect to dump him. But Pulock had about twice the value of Kappy so its ridiculous that Isles would be giving a 6th and a cap dump to only get a 4th as compensation.

25 Mar 2019 17:00:16
Leafs do need a defenceman but Pulock isn't what there looking for, as seen by the Muzzin trade theyd want a developed and experienced Dman.

23 Mar 2019 17:50:13
With the Cap crunch to hit the Leafs I see there are 6 players in my view that will have to go, I don't see them resigning Gardiner, Hainsey or Ennis and see them trading Kapanen, CBrown and Zaitsev.
Zaitsev will have to be a Cap dump on a Team with lots of Cap Space with probably a Prospect added for a mid to later Draft Pick.
I do have one Trade Proposal that I could see happening and this is it.

Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Hurricanes get some much needed RWing depth with Kapanen being the key and see him as a great fit with Aho, CBrown on there 3rd or 4th line depending if JWilliams resigns and with there great Prospect Pool on Defense they can afford to move Pesce.

For Toronto this is a Trade they will have to make for Cap reasons and adding at least a Top 4 Defenceman with a good Cap hit will be worth it.

Thoughts ?

25 Mar 2019 16:48:10
Pinball it's either your overvaluing Kapanen or Brown because this is not even clost. Add Lilijegreen, Bracco, 2rd and its closer.

25 Mar 2019 17:03:50
Its a good base but i agree with BoomBoom, Carolina will likely want young forwards back so Bracco, Johnsson, etc. are potential pieces that would need to be added.

28 Mar 2019 11:21:59
Know your facts #thrasher69
Kapanen 22 years old
CBrown 25 years old
What do you consider young?
If anything the Leafs are robbed here it's like trading Kadri for DHamilton and BMcGinn if it where the Caine's needing Cap Space and the Leafs getting a 4th Round Pick for a 6th Round Pick.
Leafs will have to do this for Cap reasons not for fair Trade value.

22 Mar 2019 21:28:47
Toronto Maple Leafs - Kasperi Kapanen + Rasmus Sandin
St Louis Blues - Colton Parayko

22 Mar 2019 22:53:58
hahahaha oh man.

24 Mar 2019 05:49:37
Whats the problem buddy?

24 Mar 2019 18:08:21
I would that is a decent trade but stl would have to know what it's gunna cost to sign kappy.

24 Mar 2019 18:10:55
He’s an oilers fan, that’s the problem. Rieder and Bear for Parayko would be a better return in his eyes. NotDelusional2, are you FairTrade4All or would you even admitnit if you were?

24 Mar 2019 21:32:07
Leafs why are you being a little cry baby he literally just said oh man. Where is the issue in that lol.

25 Mar 2019 03:21:45
Come up with your own name for me McJ, yupp already calls me that. Do to think the hahahah oh man was referring to it being way too much for Parayko? I doubt it. Most of us don’t need a full paragraph to understand what someone is saying. Get your head out of your a** McJ. It is decent value like the original poster thought, Mike and myself. Delusional does not see value in leaf players which is what I was getting at. If you Oiler fans are going to resort to name calling, maybe you should find a site where you can call each other names and talk about how much value Oiler players have.

25 Mar 2019 06:11:08
Kapanen underrated asf, and this site overrates Pesce, Parayko. When in reality that would easily get parayko

25 Mar 2019 16:45:32
Why would blues do this. Kappy had a hot start and now is barely 20 goal 50 or player. Sandin is unproven. You would have to add a 1st to get fair value and even then the blues say no.

25 Mar 2019 16:48:59
The dosnt come clost to getting Parayko. Kappy has actually been overrated on this website since he's hit the 30 point mark this year. Ya he's having a good season but teams look with who he's playing and right away they know hell never be a 60+ point player. More like a solid 40+ point guy.

25 Mar 2019 16:49:41
Seriously that would get you parayko. No way kappy is 20goal 50pt guy. Had great start and tappered off. Sandin is unproven. For a too pairing rhd. Nope you would have to add a 1st as well and blues still don't do it. It's funny how it's either nylander or kappy being offered and which ever one is performing worse at the time.

26 Mar 2019 19:07:53
I was literally saying oh man because it was another parayko proposal lol and we all know how those end up. but leafs17 ya wtf is your deal buddy chill out why are you throwing a fit i legit said 3 words.

18 Mar 2019 15:39:49
Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)
7th Round Pick 2019

If Dubas does decide to Trade Kapanen this is the type of Trade Proposal you would see, from Carolina's side it makes sense as well with there depth on Right Defense, and with Bracco probably ready next Season he would step right in beside Marleau and Kadri at RWing on the 3rd line, I do see a Trade match here at the Draft.

Thoughts ?

18 Mar 2019 20:37:57
Hahahaha dream on toronto fans.

18 Mar 2019 20:41:21
Lol Kapanen gets u 40% of Hamilton. Add Lillijegreen and Brown+ and that's closer.

18 Mar 2019 20:55:45
Boom boom, just like many you overated Hamilton. I would rather Pesce. Better all round game.

18 Mar 2019 21:51:21
So would Drouin, Juulsen and Shaw be close to fair value for Hamilton Boom Boom?

19 Mar 2019 01:16:05
I agree Pesce>Hamilton wouldn’t want to give up Kappy but I would for Pesce.

20 Mar 2019 15:11:45
Well your trade that was attempted to make fun of me is more fair for mtl then your trade is for Carolina. Drouin is not that good he's a clutch player and Juulsen is good yes proably be a good top 4. Shaw is not worth that much and he's overpaid but he brings lots of energy and is playing really good this year so I like him. But Hamilton is 25 and he's a solid all around defensemen it would take a package like the from mtl to get him cut mtl already has good RHD so mtl passes lol.

20 Mar 2019 15:13:07
Ya that's actually more then enough for Hamilton maybe even a small add on from Car bu that's a good trade compared to your first one.

20 Mar 2019 15:13:57
Jonthan Drouin and Juulsen both have more value then Kapanen so your mtl trade has almost 3 times more value then your Toronto trade. Shaw and Kapanen are not that far value wise.

20 Mar 2019 15:16:06
Problem people is Pesce is on a Cap friendly Salary signed long term and yes I would prefer Pesce over DHamilton but don't see Carolina doing that, DHamilton does give you more offence then Pesce so with how the Leafs are being built it still works.

20 Mar 2019 15:17:17
It took don cherry Kappy is only worth 1 of the mtl players u mention so essentially the package cmg from mtl is not comparable from Torontos. Not a good comparasion.

20 Mar 2019 15:47:05
‘Shaw and kapanen are not far value wise’

Lmao. If you think that, you’re crazy.

20 Mar 2019 19:17:37
I’d take Kappanen over Juulson without hesitation and at Drouins salary him also.

20 Mar 2019 19:50:58
Juulsen definitely does not have a lot of value right now, espeically with his eye injured.

21 Mar 2019 16:16:01
I read Hamilton for Kapanen is good trade. I don’t know. Hamilton is good, but Kapanen is too, yes. Much younger and will be on team much longer. Is betterLeafs keep Kapanen.

18 Mar 2019 08:07:53
Devils Trade

Leafs Trade
Liljegren (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

18 Mar 2019 10:24:55
No from Devils, Lilijegreen went down in value since being drafted and packaged with a bottom 6 player dosnt get u a solid top 4D. Lilijegreen might become what he was supposed to but why would Devils risk Severson to find out?

18 Mar 2019 17:43:25
lol i would say if anyone’s value has gone down since being drafted it’s severson.

18 Mar 2019 17:52:13
Severson was a 2nd rounder and is on pace for a 40 point season. I don’t think jersey can afford to lose him on the back end.

18 Mar 2019 20:16:24
Severson was a 2rd pick and is a solid defensive top 4 D that can still get 30+ point. Pretty sure his value has gone way up since being drafted @unsportsmanlike.

18 Mar 2019 21:43:55
I'm not suggesting NJ would do this trade by any means (their defensive depth is paper thin and it would be ill-advised) .

I just remember a lot of people pumping his tires a few years back (even on this site) and I don't think he's come close to living up to those expectations.

Being a top-4 defender on New Jersey is like being the smartest member of the flat earth society. They have Connor Carrick playing in their top 4. You think that might have something to do with why they have allowed more goals against than all but two teams in the NHL?

Cody Ceci is a top-4 D man for Ottawa. Hey Boom Boom -- you want to trade Shaw, Juulsen and a 4th round pick for Ceci? Ottawa will even scrap the 4th rounder since he's only on pace for 30 points.

19 Mar 2019 12:19:19
Just because they have a shallow D doesn’t mean their whole D sucks. Severson isn’t top 4 because he’s in Jersey, he’s a top 4 D because he’s talented enough to be a top 4 D on most teams. I agree Liljegren hasn’t lost value like people think but let’s not pretend Severson is Ceci they’re very different in their own zone m.

19 Mar 2019 15:27:33
fair point jbs; Ceci was an extreme example and I agree Severson is a lot better than him.

20 Mar 2019 15:12:36
Severson is top 4 on Leafs, mtl, , Edm, Washinton, Minesota, Dallas ect
Hes solid.

21 Mar 2019 16:17:32
Severson is very good player, yes. Is worth more than Liljegren, yes. Toronto must needs add another better pick or player.

17 Mar 2019 14:08:09
Edmonton must make trade. Only good players to trade is defense. So:

Edmonton trades Oscar Klefbom to St. Louis for Jayden Schwartz.

St. Louis must needs left defense. Only Dunn is good for left side defense. Edmonton needs winger for to play with McDavid. The money is very close as well. So this trade is good for both team.

17 Mar 2019 15:08:13
. i thought edmonton was bad defensively but good offensively? why would they do this?

17 Mar 2019 17:24:41
No they are not good offensively they are Mcdavid and Draisaitl that’s about it on there forwards. The problem with Edmonton is they have too much money tied up in older slower players that aren’t worth the money. They need to try to sell and do a full rebuild and no more half ass rubbish they’ve been doing for the past decade.

17 Mar 2019 18:55:41
Edmonton is not very good offense or defense. But defense they have more tradeable players. Cannot affors to lose good players offense because is nobody good after top 3-4 guys. Chiarelli brings in lots of defense before fired. We can trade defense.

17 Mar 2019 21:11:07
Lol. They aren’t trading Klefbom for a winger. That would Jen create too big a hole in D. Klefbom is their beast back there (when healthy) .

18 Mar 2019 04:03:01
Absolutely idiotic for oilers to make that.

18 Mar 2019 08:11:26
Rather keep Schwartz

Blues have jaybo, Edmondson, Dunn on left side.

18 Mar 2019 15:37:47
But why is trade idiotic McJesus. Klefbom is very good player, yes. I watch him many times. But so is Swartz. We have so many other very good players on defense too. Nurse is very good. And Russell and Larsson too. We have many others that are very good too. If Schwartz is not worth Klefbom, then why not you tell us what he is worth?

18 Mar 2019 20:01:08
Blues will never trade schwartz. Brings to much to our team. He may be having a down year, but his play is still a driving force for the team.

20 Mar 2019 15:15:21
Zamboni Klefbom is Oilers only legit first pairing D. Nurse is a solid second pairing as is Larsson. Russel is not very good and all the D Chiarelli brought in at the end are 3rd pairing/ scratches. This trade does not help Edmonton.

14 Mar 2019 23:36:58
To CGY: J.Puljujärvi + K.Yamamoto + A.Larsson
To EDM: J.Gaudreau

To STL: R.Nugent-Hopkins + First Rd Pick
To EDM: V.Tarasenko

J.Gaudreau / C.McDavid / V.Tarasenko
T.Rieder / L.Draisaitl / A.Chiasson
M.Lucic / C.Cave / Z.Kassian

15 Mar 2019 00:05:01
That's a solid no on tarasenko.

15 Mar 2019 04:30:55
Nuge and a top 10 pick isn’t enough for tarasenko lol ok.

15 Mar 2019 14:29:32
That johnny hockey trade is awful.

16 Mar 2019 00:29:33
Maybe the worst set of trade proposals ever submitted. Very lopsided in EDMs favour.

18 Mar 2019 08:01:53
No it's not. Huge isn't needed. Tarasenko is a 35 40 goal scorer. Rather keep him. Besides end has a horrible track record of top 10 picks. Lol how many actually panned out.

18 Mar 2019 08:02:36
OK how about this Perron and 1st rnd 2020 2nd rnd 2019

Leon Drais. Right cause that is equal value some how lol.

18 Mar 2019 08:05:55
Why would calgary even want Larsson when they have a top 4 that is one of the best in the league already. Larsson does nothing to improve them in that area. Yamamoto is so small he no good and not make nhl maybe ever. Puljujarvi so big makes for big bust. He no good either.

28 Feb 2019 14:57:24
2 Draft Day Trade Proposals.

Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Canes will be looking to get better at Centre and Kadri is at worst a #2 Centre with Carolina, with all the depth at Defense with HFleury, Bean, Fox and McKeown moving DHamilton makes sense.

Like the Canes on the opposite side the Leafs need that RHanded Shooting Defenceman that will fit in nicely with Toronto, the Leafs are still strong down the middle with WNylander as a full time Centre and Bracco probably ready for a full time NHL spot on RWing.

Edmonton Trades

Toronto Trades

Edmonton will be looking for Wingers and CBrown and McDavid in the OHL lit it up when they played together, maybe that magic returns in Edmonton and if it does its a steal for the Oilers.

Leafs will be looking to strengthen the Right Side of the Defense and Benning like DHamilton will fit in with the Leafs, my guess is both Gardiner and Hainsey walk and Rosen comes in as a cheaper solution on the Left Side, but these 2 Trade Proposals helps the Defense.

Thoughts ?

28 Feb 2019 15:32:34
If Toronto wants a 25 year old RHD for Kadri they better add a first rd pick and B+ prospect.

28 Feb 2019 18:00:19
highly disagree boomboom.

01 Mar 2019 02:54:30
Yea that package isn’t anywhere close to getting DHamilton. 3rd line C and a slightly higher pick for a top pair right shot D? No chance.

01 Mar 2019 14:24:36
A 3rd line center that put up over 30 goals and 55+ points in consecutive years playing 3rd line minutes with some pp time. yeah I don’t think kadri would be a third line center on the Hurricanes. Unless hurricanes aquire 2 more centres that put up better numbers than kadri he’d be no less than a 2nd line center possibly 1st in carolina and if carolina wants/ needs offence than its definatley worth considering. I don’t think it makes sense for the leafs however, I’m sure they’d rather a more defensive d man than offensive minded hamilton.

01 Mar 2019 15:03:43
Hamilton’s contract is too short. Maybe if there was more time left. Hamilton also has no guts and is overrated. The value is there, but Leafs pass.

01 Mar 2019 15:03:53
The only reason he is 3rd line is because Toronto has two superstars ahead of him, why can't you morons realize just because the line you play on doesn't mean you're a ____liner. Kadri is a very capable #2 center.

01 Mar 2019 20:23:54
There was a couple people last year calling Marner a 4th liner last year because he was demoted for a week or two. Not looking much like a 4th liner now. Kadri is #2 center on many teams in the nhl.

03 Mar 2019 15:26:54
Hamilton, just like Faulk is way overated on this site. Gardiner who many deem as garbage was better stats than both the last 2-3 years.

05 Mar 2019 21:09:16
Atm Hamilton is very underrated just because he's not having the greatest season does not mean he's not a top 2 Defencemem on 60% of nhl teams.

06 Mar 2019 12:49:55
Boom boom, he is not a top 2 dman. I know my opinion is unpopular but he is far from solid defensively and offensively is as streaky as it gets. Same as Faulk, overated.

07 Mar 2019 11:19:25
On Toronto he's the best Dman atm. Reilly is really good but Hamilton is just having a down year, when Reillly will be 25 he might have a bad year too and it won't mean he's not top 2 anymore.

07 Mar 2019 16:00:30
no he is not better than Reilly. On Toronto Hamilton is top 2 solely because of having no good RHD. Sorry my opinion is different than yours and I am not basing my opinion solely on this year. I have watched him since coming into the league and I am not impressed at all. Just my opinion though as I have said all along. Maybe he gets traded to the Habs and you could find out for yourself.

25 Feb 2019 14:31:01
Tor brown and blues 4 th rounder
Edm kassian and petrovic

Edm gets a winger that was mcdavid slime mate with the otters for years so why not give it a shot

Leafs get muscle in kassian and a physical 6/ 7 dman.

25 Feb 2019 15:15:29
Although Oilers gain 200k in cap, i'd do this if it was offered.

25 Feb 2019 19:13:02
I know a potential 2nd for Kassian is good value but I don’t want him to be traded. He brings a lot energy and emotion to games.

22 Feb 2019 15:12:03
Tor brown
Nyr mcquiad

Tor kappy zaitsev liligren timishov and 4 th round (blues pick) 2nd 2020

Car Faulk Ferland
Tor gards
Any team for picks

Tor lines
Hyman jt marner
Johnson Mathews ferland
Patty kadri nylander
Lindholm goat Ennis

Reilly Faulk
Muzzin hainsey
dermitt mcquiad

Nyr take a gamble on a younger rw that has shown he can score and could be a decent piece
Tor gets a physical dman that they need back there

Tor gets Faulk who is decent if used right and a physical winger I think when they talk to kappy they find out they can't afford him

Car takes on zaitsev but get a good young winger some picks and a prospect with good upside

Gards you move for picks to help replace ones u traded.

22 Feb 2019 15:56:19
I know I will get criticized for this but Faulk is a worse version of Gardiner. So no thanks.

22 Feb 2019 15:57:29
This post is all over the place.

22 Feb 2019 19:13:46
If I'm giving up Kappy and liligren, I wasn't Pesce instead of Faulk.

22 Feb 2019 20:44:36
Too much for Faulk and a few months of Ferland. Brown for McQuaid I’d do but it’s probably still a win for NY considering the age gap. I really hope they don’t trade Kapanen but you have to give to get I guess.

16 Feb 2019 13:58:08
Florida Trades
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2020

Clears up some Cap Space to take a run at Panarin in the Summer for Florida and the Leafs add a Top 6 LWinger for the Playoffs.


16 Feb 2019 17:34:56
This is a fricken joke.

16 Feb 2019 18:24:16
Not enough for Hoffman.

16 Feb 2019 19:43:15
You have the right idea, but Florida will get better offers in terms of higher picks and prospects.

16 Feb 2019 21:36:09
zamboni iv taken note that you try to be very nice and respectful on here (good on ya) but this is not the right idea lol a top 9/ bottom 6 playern and a 3rd and 4th round pick does not get you a top line winger and a great goal scorer. Just because cats want to gain lots of cap space doesn't mean they'll give away top players for chump change like this. But like you said, florida will for sure get WAY better offers.

16 Feb 2019 23:30:16
Um both #notdelusional and islandjet what did Florida have to give up to get Hoffman?
4th, 5th and a 2nd plus San Jose gave up a late pick as well, CBrown is at least worth a 2nd Rounder plus the 4th and 3rd so you are both overvaluing what Hoffman is worth plus they are going after Panarin in the offseason.

17 Feb 2019 00:46:22
Don't try and justify it pinball it's horrible.

17 Feb 2019 01:46:17
Pinball it doesn’t matter at all how they acquired Hoffman. So that’s the most irrelevant fact you could have used. It doesn’t matter if they clear cap in a run for panarin they aren’t giving away a top player for this garbage offer. It’s a new season and he has a different value, and it is much higher than what it was during that Ottawa beef Dorian had no choice but to trade him away at his lowest value.

17 Feb 2019 13:33:12
Yup, just cause sens front office make bad trades has nothing to do with Hoffmans value. Like saying players like datsyuk and zetterberg were worth 6-7 round draft picks cause they were drafted late. Nothing to do with anything.

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