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22 Nov 2017 06:33:24
heard rumour that toronto has to re-up marner, nylander and matthews at the same time and they won't be able to afford everyone. what i heard was the person saying matthews would be traded. i thought this sounded really stupid and would be taking like 5 steps back, so eliminating matthews that would leave marner and nylander, i don't see either of them being traded but of the three (i personally wouldn't do it but) marner would likely be the one to go.

Toronto: Marner +2nd + Sosh
St Louis: Parayko?

too much? not enough?

22 Nov 2017 08:32:22
Why from St. Louis? Are they winning too many games, need to change things up? I like the talk of having 5 top 4 defenseman instead of trading a young gun.

18 Nov 2017 15:28:17
Theoretical Habs trades for major rebuild:
Habs trade
Carey Price (50% retained)

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
John Gibson
Sam Steel
Max Jones
2018 1st
Habs trade
Max Pacioretty

Blues trade
Ivan Barbashev
Vince Dunn
2018 1st
2019 2nd
Habs trade
Alex Galchenyuk

Kings trade
Adrian Kempe
2018 1st
2018 2nd
Habs trade
Shea Weber (50% retained)

Islanders trade
Jordan Eberle
2018 2nd
2018 3rd
Habs trade
Tomas Plekanec

Flames trade
2018 2nd
2018 3rd

18 Nov 2017 16:21:52
Nice. The daily Price proposal for Saturday.

These are hilarious. Some of the worst ice ever seen.

18 Nov 2017 18:00:24
woah. what? how badly do u over value these habs players.

18 Nov 2017 18:09:19
Wow, you have officially taken the title of most delusional has fan of alltime.
Let's break this down very easily.

Prices stock is at all time low. He is injured, and next year his 10+mil contract kicks in. With that said let's break down trades.

Vatanen John gibson > price
I get that you have 50% retained but that's not going to happen. So to throw in the rest of the picks and prospets is just crazy

Patches is hood player but he is essentially a rental. On top of that Dunn as a rookie is performing very well he is projecting to be top 4 olhd. Those are just not traded. On top of all that you want barbashev middle 6 center a first round pick the blues do not have and a 2nd.
Your high my friend.

Kings need their picks more than a player that isn't even plating center or top 6 mins. Galchenyuk has been a dissapointment. Maybe worth a first but not much more unless he turns it around

Eberle has 14pts in 18 games. If nyi has any chance of resigning taveres they have to provide him with support. Besides at this point you have 6 years of 10 million in dead cap you retained in two trades.

Plek sucks nothing to see here.

18 Nov 2017 18:14:54
Holey, that Price trade is god awful for Anaheim.

Same with the STL one for STL.

This ain't a videp game. There ain't 'NHL18 TRADE VALUES'. You ain't getting that much for Patches or Price, or even plekanec for that matter.

18 Nov 2017 19:26:43
I didn’t even bother reading all of it because of how brutal the first trade was, that was pathetic.

18 Nov 2017 20:55:07
The Weber trade is hilarious.

18 Nov 2017 23:57:10
All heavely favour habs besides the Weber one. Weber 50% retained is worth a lot.

20 Nov 2017 16:32:12
Yikes. Ducks might as well throw Rakell, Getz and Perry in there. But to make it fair, have the Habs throw in a 5th rounder and make it 60% retained, then you got yourself a deal!

21 Nov 2017 11:52:11
Why would Calgary make that trade? Not to mention they don't have a second round pick.

17 Nov 2017 03:51:22
MTL: Galchenyuk, 1st

STL: Upshall, 5th.

17 Nov 2017 04:29:29
Idk Upshall is the best piece in the trade since both teams love their 4th line Fs.

17 Nov 2017 08:23:09
I'm assuming this is a troll post.

17 Nov 2017 11:41:03
Lol 😂 McDavid for Byron is the best you could get.

17 Nov 2017 17:46:12
We would he lucky to get Byron straight up for McDavid.
Probably have to add, at least Nurse.

15 Nov 2017 12:14:11
Okay so I saw a Marchessault trade on here where is balue was the one of a proven top 6 center who has a couple season under his belt.Not a guy who had one good season last year at 25 and is playing decent this season.Ott where the team to overpay I believe.So let's fix up that mistake



Not Chapin and another prospect straight up is what fair here.And honestly even maybe a pick cmt from LV

15 Nov 2017 14:14:27
Doable but marchessault’s a pending UFA so Ottawa might not accept.

15 Nov 2017 14:18:30
I still think Ottawa could do better with Ceci tbh.

15 Nov 2017 17:46:52
Mayyyybe if it was a sign and trade and Marchy was designed, at a reasonable price. I've heard people suggest he might ask for a crazy $ number on Thai next contact after the one really good year. So if you're trading for him, as a UFA you got to keep his next asking price in mind. I bet it will be kinda high too. So maybe Ottawa isn't interested at all especially losing Cici for.

15 Nov 2017 19:16:42
I agree Ceci could fetch better.

16 Nov 2017 02:24:18
Ok then my bad guys. I thought this was better then what was originally posted. I guess it is? But still too much to give for Marchessault. My bad.

14 Nov 2017 12:32:25

Phil:Giroux, Ghost, Morin

Two awesome players moving but they're co tract is both big and heavy so makes sense.I honestly think Giroux is worth less then price by that much because in the last couple seasons he's just no putting up numbers while Price is still playing like the best goalie in he world even after a slow start he'll jump back we all know it.Morin is a wild card but a good depth addition

14 Nov 2017 16:43:31
If he's going to bounce back and you know it, Then why do you want to trade him?
I'm legit wondering what your answer is to that.
GoldenShowers, what is your reason you want to trade Price?

14 Nov 2017 18:01:29
Because he’s signed until he’s 38 at a 10.5 mil cap hit with a no trade clause that kicks in next year. Plus mtl is never going to win a cup with their current roster. Lindgren is showing he could maybe be a number one. Trade price now and the rebuild that is inevitable will be much shorter. For those that think star players in mtl don’t get traded look at pk. Was done right before his no trade kicked in. Very plausable.

14 Nov 2017 19:19:19
You don’t trade Vezina goalies in their prime because a kid strings together 4-5 good games. remember sens fans trying to trade Anderson for a bag of picks because the had the Hamburgler lol. He dropped to 3rd or 4th on the depth Chart and was a throw in contract in a trade. And he strung together 24 or 25 games. Not saying you never trade price, but Lindgrens week shouldn’t be the reason.

16 Nov 2017 04:03:54
The reason is mtl roster is junk, not going to make a cup run with that team. Trade price now before the no trade kicks in, get some prospects and picks and tank and hope for dahlin and an easier rebuild.

17 Nov 2017 11:07:40
Everybody is tradeable, I can see price going to Arizona for Ekman Larsson and a forward, if price is in Arizona they have way more chance to make the playoffs each in every year.

10 Nov 2017 02:33:18
Cal) Bennett
Stl) Fabbri

10 Nov 2017 03:13:10
Huge no from blues wow.

10 Nov 2017 04:27:47
Huge no. How bout haskins for gaudreau.

10 Nov 2017 07:09:18
Big no from st Louis. Bennett has 1 point lol

06 Nov 2017 18:23:59
After my failure of a trade proposal somebody mentioned a little switch that I thought didn't look bad. Would this work or still way off

PHI: Simmonds, STL 1st round pick

WPG: Trouba, 3rd round pick

Same reasons as before

Is Trouba's value pretty much normal a year after his little dilemma

06 Nov 2017 19:14:59
Winnipeg doesn't need simmonds. They want a left hand defencemen

06 Nov 2017 21:02:10
Nope. As I said the Jets won't be able to afford Simmonds after this contract is up and don't really need any wingers.

06 Nov 2017 21:08:48
Super young Simmonds that Winnypeg absolutely needs!

06 Nov 2017 23:18:39
Nope. Jets still won't be able to fit Simmonds' contract in when it is up and they don't really need more wingers.

05 Nov 2017 14:21:10
Tor) Marner + JVR + Kapanen
Stl) Parayko + Schwartz

Marner bit more value than Parayko
Shwartz bit more value than JVR + Kapanen

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Schwartz Kadri Komarov
Marleau Bozak Brown
Martin Moore (?)

Rielly Parayko
Gardiner Zaitsev
Hainsey Carrick

05 Nov 2017 15:11:08
Solid no from stl.

05 Nov 2017 17:24:27
St Louis as a team is playing so well right now. Really don't think that they break up what they have now.

05 Nov 2017 19:41:55
Lol. The fastest heck no ever from STL right now. Why would they even consider trading those two for that at this moment with how they are playing and as a team.

05 Nov 2017 12:55:21
Two HOCKEY trades, to shake up the currently 8-7 Leafs.

As seen by yesterdays game, I believe that Josh Leivo has more skill right now, and is a better player than Kapanen. However, due to Kappy's age, everyone values him highly. So.


Philadelphia Acquires: Kasperi Kapanen
Toronto Acquires: Samuel Morin

Straight-up hockey trade. Allows Philly to play a better winger than Michael Raffl/ Matt Read, etc. And Sam Morin isn't the biggest loss in the world - look at Phillys defence : Radko Gudas, Travis Sanheim, Ghost, Robert Hagg, Philipe Myers coming up, etc. For Toronto, they get a tough young dman who can help clear the front of the net better than Roman Polak or Nikita Zaitsev can. And again, Leivo, Andreas Johnsson, Grundstrom, Bracco, Brooks, we aren't losing that big of a piece when we trade Kapanen.


Winnipeg Acquires: Jake Gardiner and a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick.
Toronto Acquires: Tyler Myers (10% Salary Retained)

Another swap of players, with a bit of retention for a draft pick. As much as I am one of the Toronto fans who liked Gardiner, man, is there really any more space for him? Morgan Rielly is literally the same player as him, just better and younger, Nikita Saitsev is signed long-term and places the same as him, Liljegren coming up plays the same as him, even Dermott does. Toronto needs a strong dman, and that's what Myers is. Big, strong guy who can help clear the front of the net and help the team defensively. As much as long Gardiner hurts, we still have Nikita Zaitsev and Morgan Rielly now, and Liljegren, Dermott, Rossn, etc. for the future. As for Winnipeg, they get a steady puckmoving defenceman that they could use, since Toby Enstrom really isn't it anymore. Byfuglien, Chiarot and Myers are all more defensive, and Josh Morrissey is the only real puck-mover. Adding a guy like Gards could help guys like Dmitry Kulikov, etc.

- If these go through before the Vegas game on Monday, heres what I'd wanna see the lines as (for the single Vegas game) .

Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner (Babcock showed he didn't like Ny's game style in the Blues game)
Josh Leivo - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
James van Riemsdyk - Patrick Marleau - William Nylander
Matt Martin - Tyler Bozak - Leo Komarov

Tyler Myers - Morgan Rielly
Samuel Morin - Nikita Zaitsev
Connor Carrick - Ron Hainsey

Frederik Andersen.

05 Nov 2017 14:05:32
Your team is young. the will have issue's from time to time but as they get older the will find ways to boucle back give it time.

05 Nov 2017 14:05:37
Yes, Leivo has more offensive potential than Kapanen but Babcock prefers players who play a complete game and therefore values Kapanen ahead of Leivo. Leivo has proven to lack defensive ability while Kapanen is known for playing a 200 ft game. Doing the trade with Leivo would also work.

05 Nov 2017 19:43:27
I think both teams not names Toronto say no.
Add a bit more tho and might make them say yes.

05 Nov 2017 23:26:59

I get what you're saying, but atm, I think Kapanen has more value than Leivo, even tho they may pan out the same, just one being a bit more defensive. To get a guy like Sam Morin back will be worth it for a guy like Kappy tho.


Honestly, I think the first ones pretty fair, just cause both Sam Morin and Kappy haven't cracked an NHL roster full time. Both have been tweeners, and their respective teams have a lot of depth in the positions their in. I do agree with the Myers deal, and adding more. Maybe bump the 3rd to a 2nd? idk.

05 Nov 2017 23:26:59

I get what you're saying, but atm, I think Kapanen has more value than Leivo, even tho they may pan out the same, just one being a bit more defensive. To get a guy like Sam Morin back will be worth it for a guy like Kappy tho.


Honestly, I think the first ones pretty fair, just cause both Sam Morin and Kappy haven't cracked an NHL roster full time. Both have been tweeners, and their respective teams have a lot of depth in the positions their in. I do agree with the Myers deal, and adding more. Maybe bump the 3rd to a 2nd? idk.

04 Nov 2017 12:38:49
Carl Gunnarson (15% Retention) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Tyler Bozak.

Seems stupid, but St. Louis has a solid nucleus on its d-core, with Jay Bouwmester, Petro, Colton Parayko, Jordan Schmaltz as the top four for some time. They could use forward depth, and Bozak provides that as a third line guy who can move up or down when needed.

Toronto could use a second run with Gunnarson, who is a solid stay-at-home dman who doesn't do much in the offensive zone. He's a vet, and a Babcock style player - and he could be someone who mentors a guy like Nikita Zaitsev or Jake Gardiner. Like Ron Hainsey helping Morgan, Gunnarson could help one of them.

04 Nov 2017 18:38:09
Blues don't need another 3rd liner. Once Bergland comes back, (which he us skating now) blues will have a plenty of depth. Blues do not need the cap or the player with all of their young talent soon to be playing. Thompson, thomas, kyrou, kostin, blais.

I'm sure if Dunn continues to prove himself gunner could be had for a 2nd 2018 pick.

01 Nov 2017 06:58:31
Mtl:Chuck,2rd pick

Col: Dushene

Both player who are very talented and very good scorer but they both need new homes.I honestly think kDihsne has a little bit more blue I terms of talent but Chuck is younger and has been better I the last two full season so idk.They might be clost nel ugh that a second cover the difference

01 Nov 2017 17:50:38
Not enough and not what AVS are asking for.

01 Nov 2017 20:27:24
And you say other people have over valued players.

31 Oct 2017 11:16:47
Edm) RNH
Stl) Schwartz

Shwartz has a bit more value but considering STL needs ...

31 Oct 2017 13:25:07
no from STL.

31 Oct 2017 13:47:33
This is a bad trade for Blues. Swartz has 17 points in 13 games. RNH has 6 points and has been disappointing for the last few years.

What is STL needs out of curiosity.

31 Oct 2017 21:43:49
Their need is good centres. However losing a really good young Winger for a 6 million dollar 2C doesn’t really make them better.

31 Oct 2017 22:39:20
Seems like they are doing OK at first overall.

01 Nov 2017 01:39:09
Nuge won’t get near that. Look at the Eberle deal.

01 Nov 2017 06:55:35
What are St. Louis’ needs according to you? Are they not winning enough games?

29 Oct 2017 13:42:56
Gdk) Shipachiov (really don't know how to spell it)
Stl) 1st

29 Oct 2017 17:30:44
Ntd worth a first even if you retain. Maybe if you'd retain like 50% somebody would give you a first for him because he'd be dirt cheap for 2 season and has a lot of talent. But still pushing it.

22 Oct 2017 16:24:42
Mtl) Hudon
Tbl) Sustr

Honestly this is pretty close ... I would even say Hudon has a bit more value so maybe add 2d or 3d?

Chucky Drouin Lehkonen
Patch Danault Shaw
Byron Plekanec Gallagher
Deslauriers DLR Mitchell

Mete Weber
Alzner Petry
Davidson/Benn Sustr

22 Oct 2017 18:18:08
Mtl say no because Sustr isn't even on the lineup anymore while Hudon is stil a young top 9 player.

22 Oct 2017 20:03:25
Why does Montreal need another bottom pairing Dman. That's all we Have!

22 Oct 2017 23:47:09
Agree with Sosa big time on this topic. Proposed trade is bad for Montreal.

23 Oct 2017 10:08:39
On the one hand, there's clearly no reason for MTL to do this trade. One the other hand, though, your GM is still Marc Bergevin.

24 Oct 2017 11:05:47
nah rather keep hudon he has so much energy and skill he plays hard adds a lot to our lineup.

24 Oct 2017 11:11:29
As yup mentioned, Muzzin or Martinez may. E available. Could Montreal land one of them with Galchenyuk plus a pick?

19 Oct 2017 02:35:43
Mtl) Zetterberg + 2d
Det) Danault

This is honestly fair IMO

19 Oct 2017 04:11:16
are you high?

19 Oct 2017 05:32:29
In your biased opinion**

Wings laugh at you.

19 Oct 2017 06:29:22
That’s hilarious that you think it’s fair hahahahahaha.

19 Oct 2017 07:05:48
Would rather keep Danault. he's a decent player. could get 8 good years out of him as a servicable 3rd liner. Yes Zetterberg is still the better player. but he's almost done. and really, he's not the answer in Montreal. why bring in a classy Vet to finish his career in such a mess.

19 Oct 2017 15:18:21
Mtl need Danault, young, from Quebec and he is only at his second years has a mtl.

19 Oct 2017 17:45:36
Zeterburg will always be better than Danault ever will be. @sosa, i mean, by that logic i'd rather have a guy like Connor Carrick than Zdeno chara, because carrick can play eight years as a third pairing guy, and chara will be one-two years more and then will retire. No. i'd rather have Chara. in the same way, even taking in age and contract,


19 Oct 2017 22:30:07
Just because he’s the better player like Sosa said doesn’t mean it’s the right direction for the team. But I got to say Sosa if it’s just going to cost Danault habs should probably do it. Lol.

20 Oct 2017 04:06:44
Honestly TSS and Ebs. what is Zetterberg going to do at this stage. Yes. he is, and will always be the better player. But. , he's not going to be the guy that can fix the mess in Montreal. I like Danault. he is what he is. not a star. But could be a bottom 6 guy on team for years to come. yes. teams need bottom 6 as well. can't all be top 6.
If Detroit is going to trade Zetterberg. let the classy vet go to a contender. not a mess.

15 Oct 2017 18:39:17
PHI: Morin, Filppula, Weise, STL 1st round pick

MTL: Galchenyuk

Value wise I think this is very similar to the Schenn trade but the Flyers role is flipped

Philadelphia gets rid of a NHL ready d-man who speaks French which we all know Montreal likes. He's outgrown the AHL and due to lineup decisions and the amount of young defensemen we have he's wasting his time in the AHL. Filppula is a rental who could potentially be resigned. I believe he would be the second best center on Montreal behind Drouin. Don't believe he'll score as much as Drouin but he'll make up for a good chunk of that this year. I threw I Weise because he was great with Montreal so he could always go back there and do good. Not much risk there. And then the first round pick to make up the difference. Getting rid of two forwards and getting one back not only lessens the log jam but they get more talented

As for Montreal, they are getting rid of a guy who is performing to their expectations but who is still young and has potential. They'll be improving their defense. Not really smart to get rid of offense when they need it but they are getting a little bit of offense in return

Overall, I wouldn't want Philly to get rid of Morin since he's really different than their other young d-men. I also don't think Montreal should give up on Galchenyuk right away. But I wanted to take a crack at it anyways

15 Oct 2017 21:34:55
canadiens laugh.

15 Oct 2017 21:37:58
so basically 2 cap dumps and an ahl player and a low first delusional af.

15 Oct 2017 21:57:52
flyers received the best player on that schenn deal wtf is this shit.

16 Oct 2017 01:46:55
I love how you include “who speaks French” hahahahahahah.

16 Oct 2017 05:24:31
@MTL4LIFE I totally get you disagreeing with the proposal because everybody has their opinion. I've been wrong in the past, will be wrong in the future and could very well be wrong now. But I just feel the need to correct your reasoning. First off, I'm hoping you meant something else, but the Flyers did not receive the best player in the Schenn deal.

He is better than Lehtera and will most likely be better than the individual first round picks. Secondly Morin isn't an AHL player. He's NHL ready, everybody says it, look it up if you want. He's just blocked by the other young defensemen Philly has. You don't want him sitting in the press box thus the reason they sent him down. Saying he's an AHLer is like me calling Galchenyuk a 4th liner because he was on it last game. You were 100% correct about the first round pick.

IMO you were 50% correct about the other 2. Weise is a cap dump but the destination is key. The only place he did good in was Montreal. Maybe it's a team thing. But if you have no interest in taking a chance on him it's very understandable. As for Filppula I wouldn't call him a cap dump. I believe he got like 42 points last year. Would have got a couple more if he played every game.

For 5 mil, it could be an overpayment but far from a cap dump. Galchenyuk got 44 points last year (I think) but was on pace for 59, which is better but not exactly blowing Filppula out of the waters. Filppula also adds a two way game though. Besides, it's not like Chuky is lighting the lamp this year. 1 goal to Filppula's 3.

Not saying he's the worse player but just try not to use the term cap dump as loosely. Especially considering he has 1 year left and could be resigned for cheaper. But everybody has their opinion so I'll leave it at that.

16 Oct 2017 00:11:08
Mtl4life how did the flyers get the best player in the schenn trade? Please, elaborate. i don't know why montreals so offended from this offer, galchenyuk isn't worth a 1st alone.

16 Oct 2017 06:35:59
MTL4LIFE was just owned.
Nice one Flyers2893. That was great.

16 Oct 2017 13:27:11
got his ass whooped there LOL

Not a bad trade, if the habs believe that morin can become a good d for them then it would be worth it, filp is a good player who as you said is a rental, so that 5 mil won't be a problem, weise was great for the habs, if they want to take a chance on a guy i say he'd be the one. AND a first, just saw that. yeah this is definitely a fair deal. Good going Flyers!

15 Oct 2017 07:37:12
I'm sure I will get laughed at.

Stl- edmondson, kyrou/ thomas, schmaltz

Col- Duchene 2nd

Not sure if Joel is young enough or if lhd is what they are looking for. Schmaltz is young rhd and kyrou is 19 year old 100pt ohl center
I would have added a 1st but we do not have one next year.

15 Oct 2017 10:19:20
I can't believe you've been upset at being called a homer.

15 Oct 2017 11:17:18
What is Duchesne realistically worth a good young dman. Edds is that a top prospect kyrou fulfills that 100pts in ohl last year. Schmaltz top 4 potential rhd. Or Robert Thomas 2way center former first rounder. I tried to answer the 3 asks. So seriously what is two years of matty d worth.

16 Oct 2017 00:03:09
So yup are you going to explain yourself or just take a pot shot at me like usual.

16 Oct 2017 17:21:17
Sorry. I don't wish to talk Blues with you. Its unbearable.

13 Oct 2017 21:10:07
Tor) Nylander
Stl) Parayko

13 Oct 2017 22:35:41
A lot closer than the RNH one but still don't think it happens. Would love parayko for sure in Toronto but would hate to lose nylander. Think both teams might say no.

14 Oct 2017 01:08:57
Blues once again respectively decline. Nylander is great prospect but not a center.

14 Oct 2017 02:37:00
St. Louis still wouldn't go for it but the leafs need to keep Nylander. I'd rather see them get a shutdown defenseman anyways. I still think a deal could be made with Anaheim for Manson. Even after losing Theodore, they are still pretty stacked on D. Since JVR doesn't hold a ton of value because he is a free agent, maybe another proposal would work? Any ideas? I was thinking Kapanen, Carrick and a 1st?

14 Oct 2017 20:13:20
kapanen carrick and a 1st for manson what?

15 Oct 2017 08:41:10
Let's hear your ideas BigZ. In my opinion Manson is much better than Carrick. The 1st is probably going to be mid to late and the price for a RH d man is why I added Kapanen. Maybe Manson is not the answer but I think he is a solid shutdown defenseman and the leafs keep Mathews, Marner and Nylander.

15 Oct 2017 13:43:38
I feel like that a lot to give up for a guy who isn't a top pairing dman. Carrick is a guy who I feel given time can become a decent second pairing dman. With any 1st this leaf managment/ scouting group is given i'm confident we will get a good pick so I believe the first is still quite valuable. and Kapanen is a really good prospect, should already be in the NHL, I can see him becoming a 50-65 pt player with great D and versatility. The problem with todays market is you have to way over pay to get a good dman and if the leafs should overpay it should be for the best dman out there if that makes sense. I think a trade for manson would have to include Kapanen because he would be the main piece in the trade. honestly kap+carrick+3rd is what i'd give up, I know that Ana probs wouldn't accept but imo its not worth it. maybe a package of Kapanen and Dermott/ Nielsen would be better.

15 Oct 2017 18:10:57
Can't trade nylander his chemistry with mathews is to important to give up.

16 Oct 2017 05:22:11
Kapanen, Carrick and a 3rd sounds good to me. Make the call. Trading for a top pairing d man would cost one of the young stars and more. I'd rather they wait for Liljegren to develop. Manson would be a nice fit with Reilly and Hainsey could move to the bottom pairing.

16 Oct 2017 00:22:37
Both teams i think would refuse, both players too important to their respective team. but i feel value-wise, this is pretty damn even.

17 Oct 2017 01:20:09
I love hearing that a first isn't worth much because it's going to be mid to late, and in the exact same response be excited for Liljegren who was just selected 17th (mid to late) lol.

13 Oct 2017 15:53:59
Was thinking about Players I would look to target in Possible JVR deals.

Leafs - Blues
JVR - bouwmeester

Leafs - Jets
JVR - Myers

Leafs - Avs
JVR - Johnson

13 Oct 2017 18:06:12
No from the Jets. Don't need UFA JVR, we need Myers way more.

15 Oct 2017 02:11:39
maybe the blues trade, but doubt it.

09 Oct 2017 19:35:12
Edm) RNH
Stl) Parayko

Thoughts ?

09 Oct 2017 21:36:32
Lol. Blues laugh. Nuge will not bring back anything close to this in return. And he's one of my favorite players.

09 Oct 2017 22:41:02
No from the Blues.

09 Oct 2017 22:50:23
Blues laugh.

09 Oct 2017 22:54:49
Lmao oilers wish.

10 Oct 2017 00:04:54
Kk Blues

Would be better in Center.

10 Oct 2017 00:21:48
Where is Colt?

10 Oct 2017 01:39:56
What a joke of a trade offer lol. Still wouldn't trade him for draisaitl.

10 Oct 2017 02:59:35
Blues would be a bit better at center, yes. They would also be a heck of a lot worse on D. 6'5" 23 or 24 year old RHD that can play all situations? How are they going to replace that? They let shattenkirk go because they had parayko.

10 Oct 2017 20:15:45
Is Rinkrat Colt?

10 Oct 2017 21:36:18
Blues are not willing to trade parayko. As for the whole center thing have you seen schenn. He has 1 goal 3 assist in 3 games looks amazing with swartz. So we're good.

11 Oct 2017 00:52:01
If he's not Colt then he's just made himself Colt.2.0.

11 Oct 2017 01:28:01
Schenn scored again looking great at center.

11 Oct 2017 06:12:29
Schenn is super elite if they had to trade away the best set up man in the league Lehtera for him.

11 Oct 2017 06:13:43
4 points in first 3 games doesn't mean schenn will keep that up. First 5-6 games every season there's guys with 6,7,8 points that will never be close to a point a game guy over a whole season. Still think the trade is awful for blues but ovechkin won't score 260goals like he was on pace for entering tonight, Jesper Bratt in NJ won't have 145 points and blues, leafs and golden knights won't be 82-0. Give it a cpl months before you claim schenn is the answer to top center void lol.

11 Oct 2017 08:14:43
Never said he was the answer said he looks really good. The answer is one of the prospects blues have drafted. One of kyrou, thompson, Thomas hopefully. But for now schenn has been an upgrade.

11 Oct 2017 08:26:21
Jim At what point or amount of points is he a legit top centerman. Just so I know for future reference.

11 Oct 2017 16:05:34
It's not only points obviously. But for a guy to be a legit top centre I don't think his career high in points should be 33 in 6 seasons. He should be good in all situations and aspects of the game, and should be great in a cpl ways. Toews and kopitar are good at everything but great defensively. Mcdavid is good at everything and obviously great offensively. Crosby is great at everything. Even like a ryan johansen is good at everything. Don't see schenn or anyone else in St. Louis being close to that. And I don't see anyone in that group above being shopped for a late first and a cap dump.

11 Oct 2017 17:13:05
Schenns highest was 59pts in 80gms. Also Jim the centers you listed were elite number 1 centers. I know schenn is nor in that group. Neither is rnh. But at this point and from Schenns past point production I know schenn is better than rnh. Not sure we're you got late first and cap dump from cause schenn cost 2 first and lehtera whose play has dropped so far he is spectator not a player right now.

11 Oct 2017 18:50:09
Sorry a conditional pick on top. But still you say lehtera is more of a spectator than player now and he makes 4.7 mill for 2 more years. Don't think I was wrong calling that a cap dump. So a dump, 27th overall and most likely another 20-30 pick. Just saying Blues haven't solved their center issue with that deal and it's good to hope one of those kids you've mentioned is that solution but the rest of the team is good now but will get walked over matching up down the middle in the west.

11 Oct 2017 19:46:21
Not even just he west, I could argue 90% of teams in the league have a better center than the Blues best, and maybe a third of the teams have 2 better.

11 Oct 2017 20:03:20
Jim I think your analysis is a little off. As we have played dallas, Pittsburg and new York who have two good centers on each team. Blues may not have the great centers some of these teams have but they make up for it with (so far) great goaltending and great defense. (Petro, parayko, jaybo, soon to be Dunn walman) on top of that we have Steen fabbri Bergland and jaybo currently out.

I get you don't think this team is going to amount to much no one does, but I'm use to that access mentioned every year. Yet they keep finding a way don't they. ( enter the out by second round shtick)

In closing with statsny and schenn on center for my top 9 and barbashev, sundqvist on the third till Bergland and Steen are back I'm content. It seems to be working 4-0.

11 Oct 2017 21:16:34
I didn't say they can't match up against good teams from October 4th-October 15th lol if you think starting a season 4-0 and beating Pittsburgh and NYR in week 1 is the same as going 4-7 games in 10 days against the hawks, ducks or oilers in April or may then my analysis of you as a fan was dead on. Saying Blues are good because they won 4 to start the year is back to saying they found their center because schenn had 4 points in 3 games.

11 Oct 2017 21:46:34
Welcome back Colt.

12 Oct 2017 02:16:30
Jim what I am saying is we played three really good teams to start out and we are defiantly not at our best we are short 2 top six forwards (fabbri, steen) a top 9 center ( Bergland) and atop pairing dman. Yet we played very well against three teams who had their entire team. Once again you put words in my mouth Jim. I think the blues have room for improvement when the team is healthy. My point is blues have improved by adding scene in the middle. For you to right off the blues come April and may would be like saying the blues wouldn't go 5 against the wild. Oh wait they did beat the wild pretty badly. Then put up one he'll of a fight against nashville. But once again all I said is blues are stronger. 4 games don't mean anything so we will discuss this again in about 20+ more games.

13 Oct 2017 16:40:04
I'm not arguing blues aren't good. I'm saying first few weeks mean nothing so saying we will see in 20 games is exactly what I was saying all along. Pens got lit up for 10 in a game. Not going to be that way. Pens were missing a top 6 forward when they played the blues that game, Dallas started kari the siv lehtonen instead of bishop against the blues. Lots of factors. Give it a few weeks.

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