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17 Feb 2018 23:17:41
STL: Hoffman, Pageau

OTT: Kyrou, Berglund, barbashev, 1st, 4th

Blues add some good offence what do you think?

18 Feb 2018 01:24:01
It was reported that offer was fabbri, sobotka, berglund.

18 Feb 2018 02:16:06
Wowow. Way too much again from STL. What are you on?

18 Feb 2018 03:21:08
I think value is there but St Louis said they aren't moving Kyrou.

17 Feb 2018 11:43:27
Sportsnet reporting Blues in serious discussions with Sens for one of either Brassard/Hoffman.Names heading other way include Sobotka, Berglund, Fabbri.
Not sure how this helps Sens. They don't get better or younger, and the only interesting piece is Fabbri who has serious knee issues.

With that in mind, Blues revise offer:

Brassard to StL
Fabbri, Berglund, Kyrou to OTT

or

Hoffman to StL
Fabbri, Kyrou, Thompson.

Providing Fabbri knee checks out.
That being said, I don't trade Hoffman. He and Duchene starting to gel.

17 Feb 2018 12:38:22
Wow those are terrible for St. Louis. Absolutely awful. Way too much.

17 Feb 2018 12:57:16
St. Louis has stated kyrou is not being traded.

Also that is over valuing your players.

Brassard can fetch a 1st or a 2nd and prospect.

Hoffman a 2nd.

17 Feb 2018 13:18:57
In what world is Hoff worth just a second. he's worth at least a first and B+ prospect.

17 Feb 2018 15:22:32
Yeah hoffman is an elite sniper that can fetch a lot more than a late 1st from st louis. I'd even say a 1st and a good prospect for Hoffman is going to be tough for St Louis to convince Ottawa since he has built a lot of chemistry with duchene.

17 Feb 2018 15:55:16
Your right I undervalued Hoffman. He is a sniper and has speed. I just don't see anyone trading there 1st as this draft is very deep.

17 Feb 2018 16:35:04
Lol. STL isn't trading all 3 of those pieces t
For those guys. Dream on.

17 Feb 2018 21:32:53
Lmao Hoffman for a 2nd yikes.

14 Feb 2018 21:31:23
Blues:Parayko

Tor: Marner,Kapanen,Lilijegreen

14 Feb 2018 22:38:22
What? that's lot from Toronto, isn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:06:33
Nice reach Colt. Add Tarasenko for that. Sounds silly doesn't it?

14 Feb 2018 23:08:03
Not likely Colt. and its not even close.

14 Feb 2018 23:12:42
Too much from leafs jeez.

14 Feb 2018 23:47:29
Now he sounds like the old colt55! Lol although he would have had a 1st going to the blues too.

15 Feb 2018 02:51:23
The old Colt would never propose trading Parayko guys.

15 Feb 2018 03:03:42
Did you forget to strap up your helmet and put in your mouth guard before you hopped on your computer colt?

15 Feb 2018 05:05:20
@YUP, you’re right. My bad.

15 Feb 2018 15:24:30
Good call Yup.
Ya, Parayko is 100% untradeable for he Real Colt. this new Colt really has a similar stench to GoldenShowers IMO.

13 Feb 2018 16:46:48
Not mine, just saw these and thought I would see what you guys think.

BUF:
E. Kane

STL:
1st 2019
2nd 2018
C J. Kyrou
__________________________

NYR:
R. Nash

BOS:
1st 2018
D J. Zboril
__________________________

DET:
D. Mike Green

TOR:
1st 2018
RW J. Leivo
D A. Borgman
__________________________

13 Feb 2018 18:39:49
Sorry to burst your bubble. Darmstrong Stated he is not trading his top Prospects (Thomas, Kyrou, Kostin, ) Top rookies (Dunn, Thompson), Top draft picks (2018 2nd, 2019 1st) or Fabbri for a rental type deal.

Also out of all the guys that have been rumored to the blues. I would think Kane would be the least palatable player with his locker room BS, On ice BS and Personal BS. Besides the fact that he is cold as poo right now.

13 Feb 2018 18:42:45
If toronto wants Mike for that price I am down with it. Good deep draft this year Hopefully Kenny H and his team don't f this draft up plenty of good potential players. Hell I would be will to dump Nyquist, tatar, and a few others for as many picks in the top 93 picks this year.

13 Feb 2018 18:44:59
I can actually see all of them happening. not sure Green is what the Leafs need? I think they need more of a tough hard noses Dman. they have skill in Gardiner and Reilly. obviously Green wouldn't hurt em, but If Leafs could find an Intimidating Dman. (big hitter, crease clearer. ) . I think would help em out.

13 Feb 2018 19:16:55
If I were blues I’d hang up.
Leafs don’t need offense from the point, they need a real defender.
If I were Bruins I would be curious at that. I know where zboril was drafted but don’t know a lot more, so clearly depends how they view him. However that pick should be very late and the big heavy game bruins play could be a great fit for Nash. I think the east is as open as it has been in a long time for these playoffs and with the way they have been playing i think the Bruins should look to capitalize. Rask is playing the best he has in years, have one of, if not the best line the league and a lot of youth outperforming expectations. As a leaf fan, I don’t wanna see them get better. But if I were Sweeney, I’d be tempted for sure.

14 Feb 2018 00:44:45
Redwing, you saying old poo? Cause poo is fairly hot when it first comes out, clearify please.

14 Feb 2018 05:01:15
I'm sorry let's say cold as 5 week b old poo in Alberta on Christmas day.

14 Feb 2018 16:27:53
lol @ Colt, never change bud.

14 Feb 2018 16:31:51
#1 Acquiring Kane is a mistake. Too much trouble I would
never give that for a rental that's been nothing but
trouble his whole career.

#2 Overpayment for a rental, but Nash might have a bidding
war that nets this type of return in the end. You Could
be onto something with a realistic trade there.

#3 Looks like a good trade value wise, but I don't think the
leafs are in a cap position to take on Green's Salary
unless they move out another salary in another trade.

11 Feb 2018 22:18:37
Mtl trades Max pacioretty(50% retained), charles Hudon.

STL trades Robert thomas, 2019 1st, 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd.

12 Feb 2018 00:44:12
Idk how open St. Louis would be to do that tbh. Sure the values there, but that means they give up four first round picks for Brayden Schenn and Max Pacioretty (Thomas was a 1st in 17). Idrk.

12 Feb 2018 02:33:40
Blues pass. no need for patches. No one would pay that price.

12 Feb 2018 02:38:51
Also who the hell wants hudon. Really guy.

12 Feb 2018 04:39:42
So redwing1 idk why u put your name that when u are a stl fan.

12 Feb 2018 14:00:34
I'm both. Born in Michigan moved to stl right about highschool. Friends are blues fans and redwing have been irrelevant for a few. But I have already explained this. Besides how many Detroit posts do you see on this boarD not many at all.

10 Feb 2018 15:49:16
St Louis: Stasny,Dunn,2 rd pick 2019

Chicago: Toews

Is this fair for both teams. Chicago downgrade center but could resign him if he adept around 4 million. I'd say it's fair Right? Chicago gets a good defense prospect to replace Keith maybe

10 Feb 2018 18:21:35
Edmondson is out 6 weeks so making dunn available is a no go. Besides he is looking to be jaybos replacement. Why wouldn't blues resign stats at 4 mil.

10 Feb 2018 19:12:57
Wtf is this lol.

10 Feb 2018 21:53:46
Toews will more than likely be a Hawk for life.

10 Feb 2018 01:21:30
Blues: Dunn

Coyotes: Perlini

10 Feb 2018 07:59:00
WHY? 🙄.

10 Feb 2018 18:22:11
Because colt is a troll.

09 Feb 2018 11:13:31
Idea:

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.

09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.

09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.

07 Feb 2018 20:19:37
St Louis:3rd pick

Isles: Toews

I think Toews still has potential so I'd take a risk on him with a 3rd pick. He was priginally drafted 4rd. But he can't outperfoman De hann so he's not playjn

07 Feb 2018 21:06:56
So if he can’t out perform a roster player would he even out perform anyone on blues?

08 Feb 2018 00:45:31
Why does anyone respond to this troll lol.

07 Feb 2018 17:44:18
Toronto Kyrou + pick

St Louis JVR + Leivo

Leafs aren't winning this year

07 Feb 2018 19:29:31
Lol no from stl.

07 Feb 2018 20:16:39
Should clarify what pick lol but Regardless, i don’t see blues moving kyrou unless it’s in a deal for a guy with some term. (Pacioretty, Hoffman)

07 Feb 2018 21:26:50
Patches in a deal for Kyrou might be nice. Blues get two years to run at the cup with patches before he needs a new deal.

08 Feb 2018 00:46:59
Blues have like 8 lw. Patches is pretty much a rental who dissappear in the playoffs lol not needed.

08 Feb 2018 14:34:38
Also at this point blues may not make the playoffs they are better off keeping all four young prospects and retool in offseason with their farm system and picks rather than give up half of them for a guy they wouldn't be resigning and losing in 1 year doesn't help the team in the long run.

06 Feb 2018 11:56:54
St Louis: Dunn,2 rd pick 2019

Ari: Domi

Would this be fair for both teams. And I know Redwing( Colt 55) Dunn is worth OEL in your eyes but I'm asking unbiased fans.

06 Feb 2018 13:48:10
Can someone please enlighten me as to what this whole Redwing, Colt55, Colt65 deal is?

06 Feb 2018 18:17:46
colt65 is not me for crying out loud. The why he types, the stupid props he makes ect.

As far as Dunn is concerned. He is the future Jaybo replacement why would should they trade him for Domi who has not lived up to his potential. Just not a good trade.

04 Feb 2018 06:27:01
Cgy - Bennett, Brouwer
Stl - Kyrou, 2nd

04 Feb 2018 07:39:13
Yeah pretty sure blues fans had their fill of brouwer. He sucks bad. awful trade.

04 Feb 2018 16:00:40
STL laughs.

04 Feb 2018 02:59:39
I've made 3 Simmonds trades in the past. Replies stated that one of them one far in favour of the Flyers, one trade didn't get enough for him and the other got mixed reviews which I guess is sort of good if i think about but I'll just try some more

PHI: Simmonds (50% retained because I believe Blues can't take his full contract), 3rd round pick

STL: Kostin, Barbashev, conditional second round pick (turns into 2019 First if Blues make it to the Cup)

PHI: Simmonds, 4th round pick

MTL: Galchenyuk

PHI: Simmonds

TOR: Kapanen, 1st round pick

PHI: Simmonds

NSH: Tolvanen, 3rd round pick

As I was typing these they seemed fair but then when I compared all the returns, the value didn't seem equal so I already know some of it it's off. But just curious what you would change to the offers while keeping the base of the trade intact

04 Feb 2018 06:40:57
First of all, I don’t know why Philly would want to trade Simmonds. They are battling for a playoff spot and he is a very important piece to their team. Anyways, I don’t know enough about the players from St. Louis or Nashville to comment. With age difference considered I don’t think the trade for Galchenyuk is bad but I’d still keep Simmonds for another year and decide what to do then. As a leaf fan I would do that trade. Simmonds is exactly what the the leafs need. Babcock doesn’t seem to care about physicality but when the playoffs start, things get rough. The leafs have a lot of young talent but will get man handled by a team like Boston. I’d rather Toronto play Tampa just because they’re not as physical. I’m guessing you’re a Flyers fan, why do you want to trade Simmonds?

05 Feb 2018 20:39:08
The flyers would want to trade him because they can't afford a resign in 2 years and they'd get the most value this deadline. Simmonds 2 years left on that sweet contract will draw a bunch of reward.

06 Feb 2018 23:21:10
The thing about these trades is that they can all be done in the offseason so they can essentially make a playoff push with him this year and trade him in the offseason. I just feel trading him to a team at the deadline could get you more considering the team would be using him for two playoff runs instead of 1. As for why I want to trade him. Personally I think he's overrated by a lot of people. Not too much but the fact that many Flyers fans called Schenn a powerplay specialist yet never said anything remotely close to that regarding Simmonds surprises me considering the amount of his production coming on the powerplay in recent years. Yes he was better than Schenn during their tenures here but they were very similar. The main reason I would want him gone is because he's a free agent next year and he'll be looking for big money. Guys like him don't usually play too well when they reach their mid 30s and I don't want to be the team to pay him all that money. So better to get something than nothing. Not to mention we'll also have to sign some younger guys.

08 Feb 2018 15:57:26
I get what you're saying, as a Flyers fan as well I love Simmonds and wish we could keep him but my opinion is get paid as much as possible. Kapanen and a 1st or Tolvanen and a 3rd! You won't get that if next year, having three 1st this year could let them go get an Evander Kane or a guy like OEL and Kapanen fills Simms spot.

04 Feb 2018 02:04:34
St Louis: Thomas

Wild:Saumur

St Louis gets a big 6,4" center who is not scared of going in the corners and wiis gets a more offensive center prospect who maybe not has as much upside as Saumur but is more safe.Is this fair?

04 Feb 2018 17:36:43
Who the hell is, Saumur?

02 Feb 2018 13:39:18
Three team trade.

Paciorety, Byron, Galchenyuk

Thomas. Kyrou, Dunn

Dubois. Anderson. Murray.


Galchenyuk and every second game of Pacioretty to Columbus for Dubuos, Anderson and Murray.
Byron and every other second game of Pacioretty to STL for Thomas, Kyrou and Dunn.
Pacioretty splits the rest of this season and playoffs between two teams and all of next season.
It's settled.

02 Feb 2018 20:21:26
Who adds?
And maybe alterneting one and one of Patches games between two teams is unrealistic. Too much travel.
So 5 games with one team then, 5 with the other. Still split the season. That's more realistic now.

02 Feb 2018 05:13:07
mtl trades Pacioretty, Hudon, 2018 3rd.

stl trades Thomas, vince dunn.

02 Feb 2018 05:25:07
Take off Hudon and it’s a ok trade.

02 Feb 2018 13:34:52
You wouldn't get Dunn by himself or thomas by himself. These are key core pieces going forward. Def not trading for 1.3 years of patches.

31 Jan 2018 22:33:17
Canucks edler vanek

Blues jay bouwmeester kostin or thomas

Canucks gagner grunland

Peguins haglin 1 and 2 rd pick

31 Jan 2018 22:54:28
No from blues and pens.

31 Jan 2018 23:29:27
Canucks are asking for too much.

01 Feb 2018 00:10:29
Edler a pretty big upgrade over bouwmeester and diffenly worth a first rd pick lol

Pens are looking for an offence centre gagner have 7 point in his first 25 games now he's has 22 pts so his hitting up grunland play a lot like haglin but he only has a 1 million cap hit not 4 lol.

01 Feb 2018 03:59:03
Edler is not a big upgrade on bouwmeester. And I’m not saying Gagner isn’t a good player and a good bargain at 1mill, but if you think he plays like Hagelin, you’re nuts lol. Gagner is a centre with playmakong ability and relies on smarts and vision. Hagelin is a winger that fully relies on his speed be in the right place. How are those players similar?! Hagelin fits the penguins style. Their skilled players need him.

01 Feb 2018 04:26:21
Lol edler lay out big can skate and make a pass has a gets around 30 points a year and have great playoffs stats compard to a 35 year old player what even more injury prone then edler what gets about 10 points a year lol.

01 Feb 2018 13:37:39
they’re the same type of defender so direct comparison won’t work. It’s what bouwmeester brings to his team and how he fits their game. That’s why I said he’s not a big upgrade. Edler does some things better for sure, but not really exact comparables. But I think explaining that is wasting my time since you think Hagelin and Gagner are very similar too.

01 Feb 2018 15:23:21
They’re NOT the same type of defender*.

02 Feb 2018 00:57:52
Read i said grunland plays like haglin lol.

29 Jan 2018 02:25:54
St Louis: Kyrou


Ott: Hoffman

29 Jan 2018 04:39:08
You just don't quit do you lol.

30 Jan 2018 00:03:50
What else does st. louis add? Hoffman is a proven top 6 / top 3 winger who the heck is kyrou?

30 Jan 2018 01:53:45
Ah rambonehead finally someone worse than colt. Blues should at 2 1st Thomas Dunn and parayko plus take on a cap dump.

06 Feb 2018 23:29:37
You're so cool redwing1 or should i call you under value hundreds lol.

29 Jan 2018 00:38:45
Mtl : Pacioretty, Schlemko,

Stl : Robert Thomas, Vince dunn, 4th round pick

Without looking at salary cap, does it make sense?

29 Jan 2018 04:44:58
Why would blues trade a rookie top 4 lhd offensive dman and their top center prospest for a crappy dman and a leftwing player we don't need. Lol aweful.

29 Jan 2018 04:55:26
Don’t know how you can say you don’t “need” patches on your team that’s dumb every team could use him lol. But no from St. Louis.

29 Jan 2018 11:31:01
Redwing, because that's what it takes to get pacioretty. I'm not saying the trade is perfect but you're not getting a consistent 35 goals scorer for nothing. I'm confident that if he is traded, Bergevin will be looking for the same kind of return Sakic got for Duchene ( 2 top prospects, pick) . Also, who knows how Thomas will play? Yes he's good but he still hasn't proved anything at the next level.

29 Jan 2018 12:12:26
If every team needs a patches. Mtl should keep him for their cup run.

29 Jan 2018 19:29:39
I agree with cou that bergevin will be looking for sakic-like return, the habs are stuck with him until he's worth a less return.

29 Jan 2018 20:16:33
We don't need patches is easily broken down like this.

Jaybo will be out soon and is already on decline. Dunn a rookie beat out gunnerson for the final spot this year and has been super impressive his speed passing ability and shot has proven he will be Jaybo replacement in the future for years to come.

Statsny is ufa, usually like with steen, berglund, lehtera, eCT if Armstrong was planning on resigning him he would have extended him by now. So players like thomas, kyrou, Thompson will get a chance to step into the 2c 3c role next year. So they are needed 3 chances are better than one.

Also blues only legit rw on team is tarasenko, so we have lost in Thompson kyrou who could step into the 2rw 3rw roles next year. This is a need.

Blues already have schwartz, (better than patches) fabbri had great rookie season could return to form, steen, berglund, upshall role player, sobotka,

So when I say blues don't really need patches it's cause adding a 7th left winger to the team is not as important as keeping our youth and filling our positions of weakness with our great prospects and not selling from our weakness to add to our strength. It makes complete logical sense.

29 Jan 2018 20:36:56
If Thomas hasn't proved anything at the next level yet . Then, why is he an absolute necessity for your team, for a proven scorer? Sounds like something i wouldn't want to take a " risk " with .

29 Jan 2018 21:12:54
He is the best center prospect we have at 18 he is dominating ohl, he was best center for wjc. And on top of that every analyst, sports announcer bloggest ect has a hard on for him. Also blues have some of the best scouting around. Robert Thomas almost made the blues roster out of training camp. Just because you are not sure who he is doesn't mean he isn't good just like parayko. Everyone thought colt wasn't going to be anything and he is a pillar to blues defense.

At some point #1c centers have to be drafted. You can't trade for them and if you want to buy them in ufa they are at peak ready for decline. Just ask yourself this if he wasn't so good if he wasn't project ted to be a #1c then why does every team want him.

If walks like a duck talks like a duck it must be a duck.

29 Jan 2018 21:57:54
Duck? Huh?

30 Jan 2018 00:10:49
Metaphor for Thomas

If he plays like a 1c in juniors at 18 and is thought of as a potential nhl 1c he performs in wjc as a 1c then by God he most likely is going to be a 1c as he matures.

30 Jan 2018 01:26:07
What I don't get is everyteam wants him. (ott, nyr, mtl, buff, det and more. ) Yet everyone is saying they doubt he performs in nhl. Lol get real people.

30 Jan 2018 03:47:18
Lol Colt you never change bud.

30 Jan 2018 23:45:56
That's what i was trying to get at redwing1 . Thank you!

28 Jan 2018 16:18:53
OTT: Hoffman, Burrows
STL: Kyrou, 2nd

dont think STL has the cap space . but what about value?

28 Jan 2018 17:24:52
Ya. Not sure about cap either, however, this seems like one of the more fair trades out there.

28 Jan 2018 17:59:21
Good trade.

28 Jan 2018 18:03:11
retain on borrows 50% and yea.

28 Jan 2018 18:04:55
Definitely makes sense for St. Louis adding another sniper if they go on another run this year, good trade.

28 Jan 2018 20:07:30
realistic i'd say. i'm not 100% on the cap space though.

28 Jan 2018 20:31:31
STL can't take that much cap without any going out. They only have like $250K in cap space.

28 Jan 2018 23:06:14
Why on God's green earth would blues want another left winger in burrows who would be the worst lw on the team then add Hoffman as well who is another lw. Schwartz is back and playing very well again. No need for Hoffman or burrows.

What I don't understand is why ott, habs, nyr, and a few other fan bases are constantly making bad offers for those top prospects of blues. Just a thought. If everyone thinks those prospects are so great, why should they traDE them. to win now is crap and was debunked by Armstrong in his press conference. Not only did he say he wasn't trading his top 4 for rentals. He said he saw his windows for being a contender opening now and staying open for a long time. I get Hoffman has 2.5 years then blues will probably not be able to resign him. On top of that blues biggest needs are centers and right wings which the top four are. On top of that stats my may not resign next year. Usually there would be an extension in place by now if player wanted to stay.

29 Jan 2018 05:00:35
lool. take a look at any hockey news source. they will tell you that STL is highly interested in Hoffman. jesus man, educate yourself please.

29 Jan 2018 06:28:15
And Burrows is a RW. again, educate yourself.

29 Jan 2018 09:12:11
Wikipedia, hockey database both have him listed as lh lw. So I appoligize if I was wrong. But all that has ever been said is blues made a futures offer wich Doran refused. This was a rumor has not been backed up with fact. Also just because blues are interested doesn't mean they are willing to part with kyrou. Especially for a player who is a leftwing when the team needs a rw.

Now can you educate me on something. Besides the original rumor and subsequent aftershock rumors. Has there actually been a legit rumor other than stl is one of 5 10 teams interested.

Also if you haven't heard apparently bergevin was at Hamilton bulldogs game. So that must mean blues are very interested in patches too. Guess they want a team with 3 #1lw on team.

Don't forget the Carey price rumor from the French radio/ podcast guy.

Thomas Allen 1st 2018 for price
But bergiven wanted
Thomas huton 2018 first

Funny thing blues don't have a 2018 first.

None of these offers make sense blues are at the cap how the hell are they going to add 8 mil ott offer, 5 mil in patches, 10.5 in Carey price. Just doesn't make sense.

29 Jan 2018 13:28:10
I may be lost here, but what does Bergevin being at a Hamilton game have anything to do with blues/ habs?

29 Jan 2018 13:49:54
No one said they’re going to get patches AND Hoffman except you lol obviously anyone with a bit of a clue would see that those two are similar player types and similar contract amount and term and say “they must be trying to see who they can get cheaper and who will fit in better”. Also price is only 6.5 mill. Not 10.5, his 10.5 wouldn’t kick in until statsny, who you yourself said probably won’t be back, and his 7.5 mill are gone. Giving them the 4 mill for prices raise plus 3.5 surplus. Patches makes 4.5 (not 5 like you said) pretty close, plus with Allen going the other way at 4.35 I believe, that means you could have price and patches at 16 mill next year instead of Allen and statsny at $13mill. Doesn’t seem too bad for a team trying to win a cup.

29 Jan 2018 20:24:44
Jim Robert Thomas was traded to the Hamilton bulldogs and currently centers a line with one of mtl younger prospects. BUT if statsny is not coming back jim. Now blues only have 1 legit center. Can you honestly tell me 1.3 years of patches is worth your top center prospect. I have been following blues since I moved her and they have always struggled with not having a true #1c . In the past they have gotten by with converting players like David backes, Alex steen, now bray den schenn, but I'm all seriousness they have never had a true #1c now Thomas could be that prospect, so could kyrou, Thompson but less likely. So why would a team that has suffered up the middle for so long trade that elite chip for 1.3 years of patches when they know he will not put them over the top. Do theSE traDES Really Make Sense To you.

29 Jan 2018 21:17:37
Also Thomas was traded by London knights to Hamilton because London knew Thomas wasnt coming back next year. He will be with the blues club next year. Tell me since when does 1 year of a LW equal a young stud center on elc. Doesnt. Fyi I dint write the words young stud 1c center. The Montreal writers on donation did they have been gushing overy kyrou and Thomas for last month or so several articles. Read them. I implore you.

29 Jan 2018 23:51:09
Do you think that I heard this from 1 random person or something? I told you to check "Any Hockey News Source" because it is well known that STL is highly interested in Hoffman. Go argue with Elliott Freidman if you're so smart.

Why do you think there are so many OTT-STL trade rumors on the site recently?

Also, if you think STL isn't going to give up a good prospect to get a top 6 winger than you're just being ridiculous and have no idea what you're talking about. AGAIN, please educate yourself.

And idk wth you're talking about how Bergevin went to go see his own AHL team? idk how that relates to STL or to this conversation for that matter. You're just spewing absolute nonsense.

30 Jan 2018 00:47:54
Yes I do think these trades make sense. I wouldn’t have said they do and explained myself if I didn’t lol. If I was a blues fan and they were that close to being the class of the league, I would want my team to show the commitment to today and reward the fans by trying to win a cup instead of being satisfied with being good by not great for a longer time. You keep bragging about these 3 or 4 c/ RW prospects the blues have that you think will be really good players, but not willing to sacrifice 1 to really increase your chance of winning now. Seems dumb to want to watch your favourite team keep repeating failing in the playoffs and getting ready for next season or the one after rather than go for it. By the time these kids are in their prime, pietrangelo, tarasenko, parakyko, Schwartz, Schenn etc are on the wrong side of 30. rubbish or get off the pot.

30 Jan 2018 01:31:45
Once again please educate yourself Hamilton bulldogs ate an ohl team. All these rumors are fabricated. But hey 23 days till deadline let's see who is right and who is wrong. But once again you do not tske the blues needs into consideration so let me spell it out for you one more time.


Centers
Right wingers
Elc contracts

Non needs
Leftwing erst
More cap without cap going back.
Taking on a useless aged veteran who won't make team.

Once again speculation is speculation. But if you look at all the factors and look past desires you can put together the logical equation. I don't see a trade here.

30 Jan 2018 01:38:07
@hoff, Montreal’s farm team is in Laval Quebec now. Hamilton bulldogs is OHL, it’s where the Belleville Bulls moved one the AHL team left. But you’re right on the rest of it. He’s colt. Don’t worry about him lol I’m done trying to talk to him. Anyone who thinks 1 single blues prospect who hasn’t proven anything other than he's better than 15-19 year olds are worth more than teams top line forwards doesn’t deserve anymore responses.

 
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