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11 Mar 2019 20:45:15
San Jose Sharks:

•) Joonas Donskoi


Buffalo Sabres:

•) 3rd Round Pick 2020

•) Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen.

11 Mar 2019 23:50:37
Huge no from sharks.

12 Mar 2019 00:05:22
not enough for luukkonen.

12 Mar 2019 02:54:35
Luukkonen is years away from NHL, if ever. Why not Sharks just draft their own prospect instead of trading good players for one. Sharks in “win-now” say no.

12 Mar 2019 14:27:41
exactly zamboni! big no from sharks.

13 Mar 2019 00:44:34
I actually don’t understand how my comment has 5 disagrees lol makes no sense for San Jose as they are cup contenders rn.

13 Mar 2019 04:44:58
I didn't disagree or agree on your post mcjesus but maybe because the trade won't happen until this summer anyway could have something to do with it. Also donskoi has not really been impressing sharks management lately.

13 Mar 2019 14:03:21
Fair enough habby.

25 Feb 2019 07:12:12
San Jose Sharks:

•) Joonas Donskoi


Florida Panthers:

•) 2nd Round Pick 2019

•) Maxwell Gildon.

16 Feb 2019 21:25:23
Three-Way Trade Idea:

Columbus Blue Jackets Trade: Artemi Panarin [6.00 Million x 1 Year] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick.
Ottawa Senators Trade: Mark Stone [7.350 Million x 1 Year] + Ryan Dzingel [2.10 Million x 1 Year]
Nashville Predators Trade: Dante Fabbro [Unsigned] + Craig Smith [4.25 Million x 2 Years] + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

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Columbus Blue Jackets Acquire: Mark Stone
Ottawa Senators Acquire: Dante Fabbro Craig Smith + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick
Nashville Predators Acquire: Artemi Panarin + Ryan Dzingel

- Ottawa picks up a ton of valuable young pieces, and essentially swaps Dzingel for Smith since Smith has the extra year and could be in play next year.
- Nashville picks up a star caliber player for their top six and a middle six to help them against the Flames, Jets and Sharks: giving them an elite forward core and a chance at the cup this year.
- Columbus essentially swaps Stone for Panarin, and gives up the 2nd to do so since imo, Stone is better than Panarin. However, it is entirely possible that Stone resigns while Panarin does not.

16 Feb 2019 23:05:48
Stone is not better than Panarin in any universe.

17 Feb 2019 00:06:19
Columbus won’t take a chance swapping free agents. If they think they can sign Stone they will wait to do so in the summer. In the meantime, they collect what they can for Panarin. Way too risky to chance ending up with only a 2nd for Panarin.

17 Feb 2019 02:15:08
I'll take stone over bread man every time easily
There is more to the game then points.

17 Feb 2019 13:26:24
Panarin and a 2nd for stone? Laughabl, how many times stone set records for his team? People said panarin was a product of playing with kane and his first year in Columbus set team record for assists and points. And he's not a liability defensively, just doesn't hit, nothing else wrong with his game. Stone is a good player but not the same level.

18 Feb 2019 06:06:37
This is a joke right?

21 Feb 2019 04:04:52
Shootsmcgee your joking right in what universe is stone ever a defencive liability? LMFAO he's literally one of the top 4 to 5 defensive forwards in today's game, something panarin simply is not! Plus his numbers continue to improve every year on a weak team and currently are right there with panarin this year. You can claim it's cause he played with Duchene that his numbers went up but you'd be wrong again as they were on separate lines all season.

12 Feb 2019 11:50:22
NYR: Zuc

for

San Jose: Kevin Lebanc + 3rd round pick

12 Feb 2019 15:01:57
Id rather keep Lebanc for sure.

12 Feb 2019 15:36:51
I think I’d keep Labanc to, younger and very similar players imo.

03 Feb 2019 16:03:50
Ok well Colorado has been linked to stone, Chicago to Duchene, and Edmonton has shown past interest in Ceci and could use dzingles speed with McDavid so.

Ott : stone, Paul, and San Jose's 2nd

Col : Ottawa's 1st this year

Also.

Ott : Duchene

Chi : Chicago's 1st this year, and Chicago 2nd this year, and Chicago 3rd this year

Also.

Ott : dzingle, Ceci, smith, brown

Edm : Edmontons 1st in 2020, Bouchard, and lucic

Condition to all 3 being Duchene, stone and dzingle all agree to avoid free agency and sign with new teams on the spot.

Then when lottery results determined (they pray to God they land Hughes) and

Ott : the later of their 2 picks Chicago or their own

Van : Quinn Hughes

But leave Bouchard and the Hughes boys in the juniors one more year and tank for Lafreniere, with 3 picks in 2020 better odds.

Best case scenario defence is then fixed with additions of Hughes and Bouchard to help Lajoie, chabot, and demelo. While offence looks like it can compete again with the farm coming up and joining with Lafreniere and Hughes. I know Dorian too stupid to pull this off but one can dream right? Lol

Stone added to the already dangerous Colorado top unit would be insane

Dzingle giving McDavid someone who can actually keep up with his speed would do wanders

And Duchene Toews 1 2 punch with Kane on the wing and a very possible return of panarin in offseason would likely put Chicago back where they belong in the top of the league discussion

In my oppinion that's a win for all teams involved

Ottawa down the road and long term and the other 3 in the hear and now with Edmonton long term with brown, short term with dzingle, and by the grace of God by losing Lucic contract.

03 Feb 2019 16:35:26
How do you add stone to Colorado’s top line? They already have 3 players on it. That’s why it’s a line. And it’s the best one out there. Colorado will not give them back their pick. Why would they?
And we won’t give you Bouchard or our 1st for that.
And why is panarin a very possible return to Chitown? All I’ve heard is he was really hurt the hawks traded him to begin with and is set on a New York team or Florida.
Vancouver just used a top 5 pick on Hughes and they’re trending upwards. Why would they gift him to the senators for the later of 2 picks?
Are all your posts like this? Or are you having an off day?

03 Feb 2019 16:48:02
OrangeBlood, his posts are always like thisz.

03 Feb 2019 16:48:58
Its going to cost you minimum Stone + Duchene to reacquire that 1st. Ain’t happening for just Stone.

03 Feb 2019 16:55:15
Hawks have no need for Duchene, if they go aftera bif fish it will be Panarin.

03 Feb 2019 18:16:21
Hahahaha wow this post is atrocious.

03 Feb 2019 18:38:00
Rambo, I knew you were delusional before, especially with all the times you’ve argued on here saying how you knew for certain this or that was going to happen, and they we’d all just have to wait and see, only for it not to happen like we all told you it wouldn’t.

But, you’ve seriously hit a new low if you think any of those trades work, ESPECIALLY the Vancouver one. The Canucks got so lucky when Hughes fell to seventh due to Montreal and Arizona taking centers, any other time and he’s a top 5 pick, and you want the Canucks to give him up for only ONE asset, and that asset being a first that’s likely not even in the top 10? Get out of here with that stupid rubbish, you’re serioirlsy delusional, get some help.

03 Feb 2019 20:18:18
All great trades. if your Ottawa. No way Chicago's able to afford panarin, and that's before you said get duchenne. didn't realize the cap was going up 15 million $ next year. And Chicago's 1sy 2nd and 3rd picks, that might be a top 3 overall pick depending on how the season finishes, just total non sense, other trades are completely ridiculous also.

03 Feb 2019 21:28:55
I just puked after reading this.

04 Feb 2019 11:07:09
Stone plus Duchene for our own first? Hahahahaha good one, stone is a 5 tool player and one of the best at that, fully signed his value alone is fairly close to a first overall at this point that still has a little under half a season to change its rank get real.

And the Chicago one has been mentioned throughout the year and by adding Duchene as well as making a pitch at panarin in offseason who wants to go back there anyway it makes that team stronger for it.

And orange blood, try reading the trade before making a dumb comment. Bouchard, at least for the next year, is Edmontons most valuable piece in this deal as the pick involved is next year's, not this year's meaning it likely won't be as good since chirelli no longer in charge. So.

Brown = Bouchard (Bouchard might be a tad more value)

Dzingle + Ceci = next years 1st

Smith contract vs Lucic contract (Edmonton should be on their hands and knees begging for someone to take Lucic)

04 Feb 2019 12:53:40
So your saying that top4 guarranteed is equivalent to Mark Stone? A top four player in the draft is at worse Brady Tkachuk level, and tbh, I’s rather have him than Stone due to age/ contract. With the chance of getting Hughes with that pick, its minimum Duch+Stone and I’m not kidding you.


Also Chicago won’t do that. They have enough cap hell witj seabrook and keith, they need youth not expensive prime players.

04 Feb 2019 15:59:30
Slappers what ever drugs you're taking I def want some, of course I like Brady bit I'll take stone over him any given day, unless you got a guaranteed Jack Hughes stone fully sign definitely has the value greater than anyone else in top 5 adding fully signed Duchene on top Colorado would have to add a conditional pick with the only condition being that the next time Colorado has a top 5 pick it goes to Ottawa too. you don't give up what sens did for Duchene and take back peanuts. Fully signed both guy are more than worth a top 5 pick by the trade deadline, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Acquiring those picks don't guarantee they will stay top 5 either, especially Chicago one, adding Duchene to Chicago would be a huge addition that can easily fix their standing, Duchene Kane together would destroy other teams defence.

And someone asked how stone fits in Colorado? Easy 2nd line for now, or first power play unit with Barrie Landy rants and Mack, also be sick pk guy as he is one of the best defensive forwards in the game, he would make available that much more dangerous, plus when current top 3 run dry on their chemistry you can split em up, rants and Mack on one line stoner and Landy on another for a 1 2 punch.

04 Feb 2019 19:54:49
Same old Rambo 😂

“And with the 1st pick of the 2019 NHL Draft, the Colorado Avalanche select. ”.

05 Feb 2019 04:51:35
Unsportsmanlike, this is exactly what I have been talking about all along about how you and your groupies here disrespect sens players and undervalue them.

According to the garbage you all have been posting since last year I have the evidence now. Duchene with a year and a half on his contract got what he got for Colorado that being a player in Turris who is nearly equal skill level (I say Turris because everything acquired for Turris went to Colorado) as well as a solid prospect in Bowers a 3rd and a backup goalie in Hammond, and a 1st from a projected weak end team, yet some how you all thought that was fair with exception of me.

Now I propose 2 trades basically 1 for one each while also stating that both men will be fully signed in these deals, Chicago first for Duchene which is still less value that what was initially traded for him on a contract that was ending as opposed to a full contract meaning a Duchene that should arguably be worth more than he was then as despite a bad team season his individual numbers have been better than ever yet somehow according to y'all he ain't even worth 1 top 5 pick? Get real dude.

Then you got stone who in many people's oppinion is actually better than Duchene also younger on top of that and considered a 5 tool player by some of the harshest critics and fully signed should be worth even more than Duchene seeing as how he is literally just starting his prime of his career, yet somehow he's not worth a single pick that doesn't give you more than a 15% chance at the one guy in the draft who is arguably worth more based on age alone in Jack Hughes? Really?

Hughes is great yes but the kid is strictly offence (so was Yakupov, how did that work out) he's got speed, great skating, great shot, great passing, but without the puck he needs work stone is one of the best with and without the puck, with his skating holding him back a tad bit not enough to hurt him, no doubt fully signed he's worth that pick at least.

It's painfully obvious how biased you all are against Ottawa as you can't even back up why you have their value ratings so low unless they are on other teams, on top of that neither carries the baggage EK and Hoffman did at time of their deals!

05 Feb 2019 11:20:29
Yeah Rambo get the tin foil hat on! It’s all a big anti-Sens conspiracy on this site — that’s why Sens players never get traded for anything close to what you propose in reality (I’ll “back that up” with specific historical examples in Karlsson and Hoffman ) — it has nothing to do with your room temperature IQ!

05 Feb 2019 13:18:02
Please unsportsmanlike bias, explain to me how 1.5 years of Duchene was worth what he got or even the proposals you all listed like for example white Chabot and a weak teams 1st and then some yet a proposal involving a fully signed (5+ years) Duchene for a top 5 pick (now, as adding Duchene will likely get them back on winning track) is not a fair deal for Chicago?

Or a fully signed stone (5+ years) who logs 60+ points anually with sub par line mates while being one of the best defensive forwards in the game today at age 26, and is proving this year that with a quality line mate I'll be it Duchene or tkechuck both of which he's played with so far he's a point a game plus guy, is somehow not worth a top 5 pick that could change at any time but even still only gives a 15% chance at jack Hughes?

Pretty sure a guaranteed 5 tool player as stated by critics and a guaranteed former number 3 overall who lives up to the hype that comes with that high a pick both signed long term carry more value than at the very minimum everyone else in top 5 picks this year and even in stones case a 15% chance at Hughes.

05 Feb 2019 13:27:08
Also I literally just mentioned EK and Hoffman and that Duchene and stone don't carry the same sort of baggage this full value and fully signed not tough to see.

05 Feb 2019 14:21:27
I have not posted any trade Ottawa proposals. Ever. So spare me from your nonsensical ramblings.

Let me know when Ottawa trades Karlsson for Sergachev, Point, and 2 firsts.

Just more of your delusional, biased posts.

We have a track record on this site of you getting called out for being completely out to lunch with your valuations, only to be proven comically wrong when the trades occurs and the return is no where near what you suggested. And here you are, back at it again. You are either hopelessly deluded from reality, or the site's greatest troll. In either case, debating with you would be a waste of time. So now I sit back and enjoy the laughs when you post.

06 Feb 2019 18:27:28
I don't post biased garbage like you do.

Stone is a perennial 60+ point guy playing with average at best line mates up till this year and still has been and continues to be one of the best defensive forwards in the league on top of that. Now playing with someone close to the same skill level and consistency he's over a point a game. He's also only 26 years old just starting his prime years. Fully signed 5+ years he's easily worth more than any possible draft pick outside jack hughes. And seeing as a trade must be reached by deadline that means the sens pick is only currently a 15% chance to land Hughes and those odds still have 20+ games to change completely.

Do the math unsportsmanlike, a guaranteed fully signed close to or right on point a game top 6 forward at 26 years old vs a CHANCE at a 15% CHANCE at jack hughes! Not too hard to see that stone himself carries more value let alone the addition of a 2nd and a decent prospect in Paul on top of that.

Then there is Duchene deal which is a bigger risk for Ottawa as he's almost as good as stone, and only 2 years older at age 28. Sure the Chicago pick is currently 5th overall but swapping it for Duchene all but guarantees that Chicago not only improves their standing and makes the pick worst but makes Chicago better long term. Duchene like stone, is better than any possible pick outside Hughes and most definitely far more valuable than any pick ranging 6 - 15, which is most likely where that pick would end up being after a deal like this.

Fact is I can back up what I view their values to be, and I don't believe you can even give a compelling reason why their values should be any less other than you don't like Ottawa and undervalue their talent. I've been waiting a few years now to hear any kind of logical explanation as to the value of these players according to everyone else and why but yet all I get is a bunch of trolls who can't give anything but a "your crazy" or a "you'll never get that"

Wake up and give any real reasoning or stop trolling, plain and simple!

07 Feb 2019 14:49:10
Your flawed and delusional opinions do not back up anything.

History has backed up what we have said on this site and proven you wrong every time (Karlsson not getting traded for anything close to what you assured us he would -- Sergachev, Point and 2 1sts; Hoffman getting traded for a can of beans like we told you he would given the circumstances despite you stomping your feet and pounding the table telling us we were all wrong) .

I'll take empirical evidence over your "reasoning" every day of the week, thanks. Those "trolls" telling you "you're crazy" and "you'll never get that" have been right every time. You have been proven wrong every time. The end.

By the way, Hughes isn't the only player that will be getting drafted this year. Ottawa is hot garbage and their first round pick may not be 1st overall, but it's going to be right up there. Better get used to the notion of another team using your first rounder kiddo.

09 Feb 2019 18:16:38
Are you blind to facts too unsportsmanlike? History in this one is most definitely on my side.

I said Duchene and stone both fully signed are worth the returns and then some I have listed here, do your research.

Duchene with 1.5 years left got Colorado everything from the Kyle Turris trade, plus hamond, a 3rd, a 1st, and Bowers (a 1st in his own right) .

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but a fully signed Duchene 1 year later who has clearly upped his own personal game since the trade is definitely worth more than a year and a half Duchene who wanted out anyway, that much is common sense, and the return I posted here doesn't even match the return Colorado got even if the 1st they got was last of first round instead of first at this point.

Take into account that stone is a better and more valuable piece than Duchene his trade value fully signed also exceeds that of a fully signed Duchene especially considering the guy is only 26 years old.

And still instead of backing your claims with actual evidence all you can do is attempt to down play my claims, open you eyes and ears instead of your mouth for once and actually do some research.

09 Feb 2019 18:33:09
And just for good measure.

As reported by Dave pagnotta, the asking price for stone and Duchene has been revealed.

A 1st round pick, a top tier prospect, and another top tier asset

Actual asking price e for each of them, and that's as is unsigned and rightfully so! Fully sign they are worth a lot more each and this type of package as is can be deemed equal to a top 5 pick as is so really the trades I posted are also undervaluing their worth if you want to look at it that way.

09 Feb 2019 19:34:35
Cool story — let me know when Duchene gets traded to Chicago for a lottery pick and when Stone gets traded to Colorado for Ottawa’s first. I’ll wait.

If that happens (newsflash — it won’t) I’ll gladly eat crow.

When it doesn’t, I’ll still be here laughing at you. Keep postiing kiddo, the world needs more laughter.

12 Feb 2019 23:47:29
They are exactly fully signed yet you goof, the trades I posted clearly state both men as fully signed, maybe if you closed your mouth, opened your eyes, and learned to read you'd see that, not saying the Chicago one isn't a possiblity fully signed or not but don't go putting words in my mouth to cover your own backside.

29 Jan 2019 22:18:43
Deadline Deals:

SJS Acquire:
Marcus Johansson [4.5 Million x 1 Year]
Ben Lovejoy [2.7 Million x 1 Year]

NJD Acquire:
Melker Karlsson [2.0 Million x 2 Years]
Jacob Middleton [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 2nd Round Draft Pick

[Karlsson and the 2nd get moved for Johansson, Middleton gets swapped for Lovejoy]

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DET Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]
Tristan Jarry [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
Zach Aston-Reese [0.9 Million x 1 Year]
2019 2nd Round Draft Pick

PIT Acquires:
Gustav Nyquist [4.75 Million x 1 Year]
Jacob De La Rose [0.9 Million x 2 Years]
2020 4th Round Draft Pick

[Nyquist goes for Brassard, Jarry and the 2nd, basically Pittsburgh upgrades mightily on a struggling Brassard - I've seen Pens fans willing to budge on this type of proposal for guys like Kevin Hayes, ZAR goes for JDLR and the 4th].

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DET Acquires:
Danton Heinen [0.9 Million x 1 Year]

BOS Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]

[Boston upgrades their 3C, they give away the guy with more potential for the guy who can likely make a difference asap]

[Basically, Nyquist, JDLR and 4th for Heinen, ZAR, Jarry and 2nd].

31 Jan 2019 19:19:12
I like this as a wings fan.

11 Jan 2019 08:30:06
to San Jose
Bobrovsky

to Columbus
2nd
3rd

then

to Columbus
Howard

to Detroit
San Jose's 2nd.

11 Jan 2019 11:45:33
Oh, so your saying Howard basically = Bob. No way man.

11 Jan 2019 15:12:52
this is really bad.

06 Jan 2019 16:52:44
Detroit:
Jimmy Howard 5.3m

Buffalo:
2019 1st round pick (San Jose)

06 Jan 2019 18:07:34
Hahaha oh no no.

06 Jan 2019 20:52:45
Buffalo's tandem has been great this year, no need to change.

04 Feb 2019 22:05:43
I think Jimmy is going to resign with the Wings!

08 Nov 2018 21:20:57
So there are reports of Sprong (Pittsburgh) being on the trade block, and with Schultz out long term (and Jack Johnsson rubbishing the bed so far) the Pens could want to acquire a defenceman.

To Penguins:
Braun
To SJ:
Sprong

1 for 1, a simple trade, obviously if this was more realistic "balance picks" would be involved.

25 Sep 2018 21:49:57
Toronto Trades
Marincin

San Jose Trades
Heed

Thoughts ?

25 Sep 2018 22:06:28
no from SJ. Heed was over point a game as a Dman in the AHL a season ago. He may never match that but Marincin isn’t near enough to justify giving up the chance it translates to the NHL.

25 Sep 2018 23:11:15
If Heed is really bad it is fair.

26 Sep 2018 00:20:38
Sureeeee.

27 Sep 2018 16:36:45
Hahaha good one leafs.

28 Sep 2018 02:10:22
I hate to admit this. But when Marincin and Klefbom were both young Oilers prospects. I actually have more hope for Marincin. But that's probably because he actually saw NHL action early and maybe that's why I noticed him over Klefbon. They took more time With Klefbom in the AHL.
I liked Marincin, but man did he after not pan out.

28 Sep 2018 07:20:12
I remember you and chirp saying you liked him and it was a good pick up for the leafs. I cringe when he’s on the ice but somehow I think Babcock likes him.

28 Sep 2018 15:43:04
No I had started to realize he wasn't as good as I was thinking before he was traded to the leafs. He had fallen and not gotten the chances as much anymore by then.
I still hoped a chance of scenery would be good and he could climb back or take advantage of a new chance.
But ya, I was wrong about him and Klefbom. Lol. Klefbom just Hung out down in the ahl for a while and all of a sudden got his chance, impressed, and never looked back. He was actually developed and panned out.

20 Sep 2018 14:36:26
3-way Deal
To SJ:
Brown, leafs 2021 2nd, Durzi
To Anaheim:
Braun, Carrick, leafs 2019 1st, Leivo, Rosen
To Leafs;
Sharks 2021 3rd, Montour

Anaheim gets better defensive depth (which they need), leafs get their defenceman, and Sharks get a top 9 forward a pick and a good prospect to help replace the depth and prospects they traded to Ottawa

20 Sep 2018 16:15:11
Anaheim gets worse defensively dude.

20 Sep 2018 17:04:18
I know Montour is supposed to be good, looks impressive, and if I were Ducks, I wouldn’t give him away without a big overpayment. But on the flip side, is he so proven and such a sure thing star that he’s worth leafs giving up Connor Brown, Connor Carrick, Sean Durzi, Josh Leivo, Calle Rosen a 1st and a 2nd? Lol I get he’s probably going to be far better than any of them. But leafs need to keep a stream of cheap youth coming up for cap reasons. That’s trading a lot of guys that could play a role for them for one guy. And before I hear how it’s biased and it’s quantity over quality, I agree, which is why I started by saying I doubt ducks do it either.

20 Sep 2018 17:17:47
The point of the ducks making this trade is to improve their depth at defence, I don’t think having Schene on your top 6 is the way to go, especially not when you could get a guy like Carrick with a low contract as well to play there
Also Braun isn’t bad, he can replace Montour on the top 4 and playing with Fowler or Lindholm, he should be very solid, so Anaheim definetly recieves quality there
Rosen can replace Peterson in a year or so
I think your overvaluing Montour here, he is a good defenceman but if you compare Gardiner to him, it’s very similar, just that one is a righty so it bumps him up a bit, as yourself, would you take that deal for Gardiner?

20 Sep 2018 20:00:04
Well there’s a maximum contract limit for each team also, so ducks losing one player and adding 4 also handcuffs them for future moves. All these things would have to be considered, it’s not just what the in and out is today but how it affects the team and the plan going forward. Durzi is a long shot player, undrafted last year then grabbed late 2nd round of this draft, so is he someone you would want to take if that roster spot being filled prevents you from adding someone of significance at the deadline this season?! That’s the problem with the quantity rather than quality proposals. got to think the ducks had at least 9 chances to draft him over 2 years. How much do they value that guy?!

20 Sep 2018 20:21:25
2 1sts, 2nd And Brown for Montour? That’s almost what Karlsson got.

20 Sep 2018 20:55:21
Problem is, this si super unrelaistic. Where have three team trades happened with this many moving parts, especially with the addition of two div rivals trading with each other.

For the Leafs, stick to one or the other, don't try this three team stuff because itll never happen unless its an extremely major deal.

Additionally, your logic is flawd for the Ducks. Montour > Braun, and Carrick and Rosen are just fillers. Theyd rather just keep Schenn and Pettersson and Sustr.

And should the Leads really trade all of those parts? Especially for another offensive dman?

13 Sep 2018 19:33:17
Eric Karlsson to SJS! Confirmed trade.

13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Hahaha oh man. I can't wait to see Rambo try and spin this.

13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Sens get an additional 1st rounder in the deal of Karlsson plays for an eastern conference team this season lol love how they had to protect themselves after sharks already schooled them with Hoffman!

Not a bad haul tho.

13 Sep 2018 19:46:50
Definitely not Braden Point, Sergachev, 2 firsts and taking bobby Ryan with him tho, right Rambo?

13 Sep 2018 19:48:27
Karlsson for Norris+1st+2nd+Balcers+Tierney+DeMelo and conditional picks. that's a lot of pieces, but the big value lies in Norris, Balcers and the 1st. Tierney and Demelo are just fillers and a 2nd is a 2nd

Quite a step down from NBRs cries of ‘Boeser + Hughes + VANS 1st’. VANS 1 > SJS 1, Hughes >>>>> Norris and Boeser>>>>>>everything else.

lol @NBR wya now?

13 Sep 2018 20:08:05
Looks like they were going after Timo Meier and that didn't work out.
Also, the 1st is conditional - SJS has to make it to the finals or it goes to a 2nd i think.

13 Sep 2018 20:25:02
HAHAHAHAHAHA what was that Rambo? Hughes and two firsts or Boeser, Hughes and a first for Karlsson?!?! HAHA you’re clueless. You’re always so arrogant on here like you know everything yet every time you say a player will get this or get that he never does. You know nothing.

13 Sep 2018 20:31:12
I wonder is Rambone will ever comment on it or not.
Yet another homer absolutely wrong of his evaluations.
Colt and Shattenkirk was another classic.

13 Sep 2018 21:23:19
It's so funny they needed to throw that conditional pick in.

San Jose burned them on the Hoffman deal so now they have to cover their ass this time.

13 Sep 2018 21:24:33
Man Ottawa just has not had any luck with trades this year. Pretty brutal imo UNREAL for sharks.

13 Sep 2018 21:53:03
E. Kane and Karlsson are unreal additions.
Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic, Pavelski, Couture, Kane, Thornton.
****. They are the favorites in pacific no questions. And just jumped into the top of the league talks with Nashville, Winnipeg and Tampa.

13 Sep 2018 22:03:16
Awful trade for Ottawa. Quantity over quality by far. Not one high end prospect in return. Plus if you look at the Duschene trade and compare what they paid vs the return on Karlsson, it’s is completely awful value in return. Another bad move by Dorion. Not saying one of the prospects or picks turns out but that’s a lot of risk for an elite top pairing defenceman.

13 Sep 2018 23:28:45
Potentially it’s Norris, Tierney, Demelo Balcans, 3 1st rounders and 2nd.

However for the Senators to get that package, Sharks would have to sign him to an extension, trade him to an eastern Conference team at the deadline and then make the Stanley Cup final lol.

13 Sep 2018 23:56:32
We won’t hear from Rambo until he’s telling us what package Stone will bring in.

14 Sep 2018 00:04:26
Shattenkirk got a first a prospect and conditional pick.

That 1st pick turned into schenn. can't argue with those results.

14 Sep 2018 04:12:55
I said it superstars like Karlsson don’t actually bring much back because no matter what you get it’ll never amount up to what you gave up. Look at the Gretzky, Roy and Jagr trades none got back mush significans compared to what they were.

14 Sep 2018 12:17:18
Habs legit got a better return for Patch than Ottawa had for Carlson

Damn Sens got fleeced bigtime unless Karlesson doesn't resign in San Jose.

04 Aug 2018 18:26:33
Ottawa: Karlsson, Ryan, Smith
Vegas: 1st, Brannstrom, Legace and Theodore

Ottawa: Pageau
Montreal: Peca + 3rd 2019

Ottawa: Anderson + 3rd 2020
San Jose: Dell

are any of these close? what would you add or change?

04 Aug 2018 19:39:19
Karlsson trade I wouldn't touch with Ryan contract.

05 Aug 2018 06:28:31
If Vegas is taking on both ryan and smith, ottawa would be lucky to get a first plus, no way they would get theodore.

03 Aug 2018 14:48:00
If Tampa acquires and extends Karlsson (RHD), they need to move out salary and go all in this and next year.

Philadelphia: Girardi ($3MM UFA 2019), Callahan ($5.8MM UFA 2020 NTC), Foote, 2020 1st (TB)
Tampa: Vecchione, Leier

Vecchione is NHL ready but can't crack the roster and Leier has NHL experience. Both are cheap and would be great depth players for a long playoff run which Tampa is poised to do. Callahan might waive to go to a good, young, emerging team if he's smart enough to realize he's an impediment in TB.

Philadelphia has the cap space to take on these contracts without impeding future deals (Provorov, Konecny, Patrick etc). Foote and Myers would be the Flyers RHD of the future.

San Jose: Simmonds ($3.975MM UFA 2019)
Philadelphia: 2019 2nd (FLA), 2020 1st (SJS)

It's doubtful that the Flyers can re-sign Simmonds long term. If the Flyers acquire Callahan, Simmonds is surplus value and should go to a contender that can pay him $5-7MM for 4-6 years. With Thornton coming off the books, the Sharks can extend Simmonds for their window. Philadelphia has Voracek, Konecny, and Allison as RW long term.

Philadelphia maximizes their return while using cap space and roster spots. 2019 Draft priority is RW.

Flyers 2020-2021 Roster:

Giroux-Couturier-Konency
JVR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Frost-Allison

In waiting: Ratcliffe, Farabee, Rubstov, Vorobyev, Strome, Sushko, O'Brien

Provorov-Myers
Gostisbehere-Foote
Sanheim-Hagg/Morin/Friedman

03 Aug 2018 15:21:37
Good post.

03 Aug 2018 20:05:43
Foote and a 1st to move out Cally? Don’t think so. It’ll prolly just take the 1st. Cause Girardi is basically just a rental cause his contract ends before any resigning would be done.

Simmonds trade isn’t that bad imo, but ain’t that third line a bit inexperienced? Idk, i'd prefer Simmonds there imo.

04 Aug 2018 07:10:37
Foote and 1st is way too steep a price to pay to trade Callahans remaining contract. Could as well buy him out next summer. And you think if Vecchione and Leier can't crack PHIs arguably worse F corps, they will make it on TB? Weird logic
Either send some good value back or take out Foote and then TB maybe considers it.

25 Jul 2018 01:01:49
Per Eliot Friedman the Leafs and Sharks are interested in Antemi Paniran as a rental. The price Per Eliot is thought to be ( A 1st +a B PROSPECT) I feel like it'll be more then that but not much

Assumption- this is a deadline deal where his value is at an all time low. He makes it clear he wants to test FA and won't sign in Columbus.

Comparison- Evander Kane and Marian Hossa 2009.

Columbus: Paniran And 3rd 2019

San Jose: Kevin Leblanc and 1st 2019

Clb: gets rid of a great player that is unwilling to stay long term. They pick up a promising prospect in Leblanc who's basically a guaranteed 2nd liner atleast and a 1st

SJ- gets a player who can be there best player offensively and they have the room to resign.

Columbus- Paniran and Ryan Murray

Toronto- Jake Gardiner, Connor Brown, and 1st 2019

Clb- Gardiner would be able to play on their top PP and would be an upgrade over Murray. Brown provides top 9 depth and a strong PKer. The 1st is useally a essential when trading for a top tier rental.

Toronto- 100% won't resign Paniran so he'd help the playoff push but Murray could be a long term solution for the 2nd pairing.

25 Jul 2018 04:44:40
Uh so the San Jose trade is terrible for Columbus. Easy no imo. As for the Toronto trade i can’t see Columbus also including Murray, especially since I know you think he’s a stud dman lol.
So I think Columbus could get better offers.

25 Jul 2018 04:53:28
SAN Jose doesn’t have a 2019 first it’ll have to be a 2020 first and Columbus i don’t think would want to wait for a 2020 pick as they have a squad that could compete now so it’ll require a roster player or prospects that’s ready to make the jump.

25 Jul 2018 05:26:49
Honestly if this is a deadline deal with the assumption you mentioned I take this as a Jackets fan. But I would add that if we are competing for a division spot or are even in a playoff spot, I think we self-rent Panarin to ourselves. This is the best team in franchise history and there is pressure for playoff success after losing to the champs in the first round two straight years.

25 Jul 2018 05:47:36
Good point Spencmence. Also you’re right A099 my apologies. Also I’ve never said Murray’s a stud McJesus I’m not to sure other teams would offer more but you could be right.

25 Jul 2018 11:19:20
No, He suggested that the Leafs could or should be interested in Panarin, not that they are interested and looking into him right now. There's a huge difference. You have to rest to understand then respond not just read to respond. There's a big difference.
And it would be a pure one year rental if they did go after him. If they have the space, why not! Go for it for one, year all out.
But your proposed trade for Panarin and Murray is not enough for CLB. Lol. There would be better offers.

25 Jul 2018 13:04:53
Gardiner is the best piece going back to CBJ from the leafs at the deadline butbhe is a IFA too. Makes no sense, especially including Murray. The best piece coming back only replaces murray who was a throw in, and as of July they have a late first and a bottom 6 player for panarin and Murray? Lol.

25 Jul 2018 15:29:41
I would love to see a line up of:

Panarin - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Kadri - Kapanen
Who - F’ing - cares

Lol but panarin is 100% a luxury. Top 6 scoring is the last thing we NEED to add and if it comes at the expense of Defense it’s a backwards step. The offer above isn’t near enough, and it’s not worth the leafs paying proper value for what we don’t need.

25 Jul 2018 16:38:11
We’ll see what he gets but UFAs never bring back much. I actually think they get less then that.

25 Jul 2018 17:53:14
I think If you don’t include Murray in the trade and include Kapanen instead of brown it’s a decent offer for Panarin.

30 Jun 2018 03:59:50
To Florida: Max Pacioretty


To Mtl: Heponiemi Aleksi and a 1st round pick (2019)

MTL gets a Alex Debrincat type of player (a very talented center) and a draft pick. Florida gets a 30-40 goal scorer.

OR

To San Jose : Max Pacioretty

To MTL: Jayden Halbgewatchs and a 1st round pick (2019)


San Jose got an excellent player for the playoff and MTL get a very good prospect. Jayden have 70 GOALS LAST SEASON IN WHL.

30 Jun 2018 05:35:56
That aleski guy is listed at 141 pounds on whl website at 19 and a half years old, he's got to pack on 25 pounds to even be debrincat size And he's tiny, doubt he ever plays nhl unless he gets in the gym hardcore.

30 Jun 2018 21:27:22
Aleksi Heponiemi has a lot of scoring talent, but sadly, he is just too skinny for the NHL.
5'10 and 147lbs on hockeydb. He just won't survive.

29 Jun 2018 06:00:00
We all heard the rumours about Lucic. His family is in LA. He wants to be close to them. Kings, Sharks, and Ducks won’t want him. Coyotes are the best option.

Coyotes: Strome
Oilers: Lucic and 1st 2019

Oilers get good cap space. Also, Strome isn’t working out with the coyotes. Maybe with his brother and his friend, McDavid, things would be better for him. He is also a first round pick with good potential.
Arizona gets good leadership for the young talented players and they get a 1st rounder.

29 Jun 2018 06:28:51
I saw the article you got this from and as I don’t think coyotes would part with Strome for that, I do believe they would consider moving him if oilers added another piece that makes it interesting. Just idk what they’d add.

29 Jun 2018 16:43:03
Yah no way the Yotes touch that Strome still has potential imo Lucic just about cancels out all the value the 1st holds.

28 Jun 2018 00:39:00
(G) Garrett Sparks + (LW) Matt Martin to the New York Islanders in exchange for (D) Mitchell Vande Sompell + Conditional 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick.

Condition: If Sparks plays 40+ Games for the Islanders, the pick is awarded. If Sparks plays 30+ Games for the Islanders, a 5th is awarded. If neither is met, no pick is awarded.

(RW) Josh Leivo + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick to the Florida Panthers in exchange for (D) Mark Pysyk.

(D) Jake Gardiner (Extension: 5.0 Million x 5 Years) + (C) Miro Aaltonen (Rights) + (D) Andrew Nielsen to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for (D) Justin Braun.

(I’d love to keep Jake too, but we can’t just keep him and let him walk. We could offer him that extension but we just can’t afford to be paying him and Rielly similar dollars for similar play styles, and with Timothy and Dermott coming up, it doesn’t make practical sense)

This is unlikely. but the speculation continues so. in free agency/ resigning:

John Tavares - 10.5 Million x 7 Years.
Anthony Duclair - 1.25 Million x 2 Years.
William Nylander - 6.00 Million x 8 Years.
Andreas Johnsson - 2.00 Million x 4 Years.
Mitch Marner - 7.25 Million x 8 Years.
Auston Matthews - 10.5 Million x 8 Years.


Lineup (2018/ 19, most expensive year)

Anthony Duclair (1.25 Million) - Auston Matthews (10.5 Million) - William Nylander (6.0 Million)
Patrick Marleau (6.25 Million) - John Tavares (10.5 Million) - Mitch Marner (7.25 Million)
Andreas Johnsson (2.0 Million) - Nazem Kadri (4.5 Million) - Kasperi Kapanen (875K)
Zach Hyman (2.25 Million) - Par Lindholm (1.0 Million) - Connor Brown (2.1 Million)

Justin Braun (3.8 Million) - Morgan Rielly (5.0 Million)
Mark Pysyk (2.2 Million) - Travis Dermott (875K)
Nikita Zaitsev (4.5 Million) - Igor Ozhiganov (2.0 Million [Extension])

Frederik Andersen (5.0 Million)
Calvin Pickard (1.0 Million)

Total: 78.85 Million (Fits)

Then, the year after, Marleau/ Duclair/ Braun will be let go or traded, and Grundstrom/ Engvall/ Brooks/ Bracco/ Liljegren will take their place, and will save nearly 7.5 Million in cap. The year prior, Matthews and Marner will still be ELC so we’ll be good there too.

28 Jun 2018 04:59:15
Am I missing something or is Nylander seriously not as good as Marner and next closeish to Matthews in terms of being one of the top players? Nowadays if somebody makes 1.5-2m more than another guy who thinks they are similar that could cause some issues I’d think for contracts. Just my opinion tho I’d think there’s egos. As I think Nylander is right up there with Marner for sure.

28 Jun 2018 05:51:00
Nylander isn’t on the same planet as Marner. Marner is a Franchise player a team can build around and Nylander is a great complimentary player. Marner is closer to Mathews.

28 Jun 2018 13:41:58
Marner and WIlly had similar point totals, but Marner has emerged as a driver of his line and a driver of play, Willy is almost constantly in the shadow of AM. Both are good, but Marner is more of a catalyst of play, and seems to have a slightly higher upside than Willy.

28 Jun 2018 14:12:10
Marner a "franchise player"? I get you think he's amazing and all but that term doesn't apply here. Call him a star winger or something but franchise player? There's a bunch of better wingers in the league than him that I wouldn't even consider calling them franshise players.

28 Jun 2018 14:49:01
Franchise player is stretching it with marner so far, but if he plays like he did from January to game 7 vs Boston, he’s going to pass a lot of guys around the league for that title. He was dominant in almost every game down the stretch. And in the playoffs, out performed Matthews easily. Matthews is still the best player and most important guy on the team, but marners making a case for a huge check.

28 Jun 2018 14:57:10
Well he’s 20 so obviously veteran Prime players like Benn, Kane and Ovechkin are better but once he gets to that point he’ll be known as a “star winger” I already believe he’s at the Guadreau level. No winger in the NHL can drive a line like that for his age. He’s in the Same Catagory as Drais imo.

28 Jun 2018 15:38:31
Oh I always thought they were similar I didn’t know Marner took off that like in terms of value and play.

28 Jun 2018 15:39:31
Ok. I would say you can call him a star winger right now if you want. With Potential to be a superstar winger. But franchise winger tag on Marner right now is laughable.
Gaudreau is still better, right now.

28 Jun 2018 15:55:29
People forget that Marner had 2 goals in the first 34 games of this season. He scored 20 in the remaining 48 games after being put on a line with Marleau and Kadri in January. For the final 48 games and into the playoffs, Marner was by far the leafs most dangerous player and showed himself to be a big game player. He elevates the production of his line mates to another level. Ex, before playing with a Marner, Kadri was on a 21 game goalless drought. He still finished the season with 32 goals. That’s how good Marner is. Matthews is still another tier ahead of him, but at this point Marner has shown to be another level higher than Nylander, who is still very talented as well.

28 Jun 2018 15:57:53
Agreed there’s better wingers. Just saying I would leave the door open for him, i think he’s better than a lot of people assume. He’s had some ups and downs obviously as a young player. For me to call him more than a star, he has to play like he did lately a lot more consistently tho for sure.

28 Jun 2018 16:30:31
Saw an interesting tweet on that subject:

Points/ 60 since 2016/ 2017:

Marner 2.95
MacKinnon: 2.95
Kane: 2.93
Draisaitl: 2.91
Hall:2.90
Eichel: 2.85
Seguin: 2.79
Giroux: 2.78
Tarasenko: 2.76
Benn: 2.76
Tavares: 2.76

That's pretty elite company for a kid who just turned 21 and still has the build of a 15 year old. He's incredible already and has a ton of room to grow.

I don't think franchise player is too generous a term in his case.

28 Jun 2018 17:32:02
18 players, need at least 20. Can probably still just get under the cap and pray for no injuries.

28 Jun 2018 18:52:04
Love how everyone disagrees with Unsportsmanlike even tho he’s just stating facts. Just Rambo and a bunch of petty oilers fans sad that the oilers aren’t as good as the leafs.

28 Jun 2018 20:23:15
Maybe people disagree with his opinion he also mentioned with those stats?

Sad that the Oilees aren't as good as the Leafs? Yikes. Have you won a playoff series in recent years?
I'm not even going to scream who is better or not obviously we are biased as Fuk on that topic. But first Marner is a franchise player now screaming more homer biased out?
Entertaining as always.

28 Jun 2018 21:25:36
Seeing as how I'm a fan of neither team, I'd say I'm pretty impartial on that front. And that's cool, you can totally disagree that Marner is a franchise player. I was just pointing out that he has very comparable stats to a lot of guys who are considered franchise players, despite being considerably younger, so take it for what it's worth.

As for comparing Leafs vs. Oilers. yikes. Leafs have been a dumpster fire for so many years but it looks like they have finally righted the ship. Oilers have the best player in the world, but with Chia at the helm I really don't know. They have some ugly contracts (trading Lucic would go a long way in fixing that) which is critical in a cap world and for a team that had so many high draft picks they still don't have the depth the Leafs have (in my opinion) . And I'm still flabbergasted by the Hall trade.

Even with McDavid, I would much prefer to have the Leafs entire roster/ system right now instead of Edmonton's. True that the Leafs have not won a series in almost two decades, but I think they are on the cusp of what will be an incredible 10-12 years with maybe even a cup or two. Edmonton needs to fire Chia and get somebody in there ASAP who knows what they are doing to maximize McDavid's potential and get a better team around him.

28 Jun 2018 21:43:46
Well I can back up with what i say with facts and atleast the leafs made the playoffs. Oilers are pretty desperate without McDavid.

28 Jun 2018 23:58:44
Well put @unsportsmanlike. System top to bottom I don’t think it’s a stretch to say leafs. And it’s hard not to blame the guy at the top (chiarelli) for that. He seems to be Teflon tho, people are not nearly disgusted with him in that city. Like if dubas traded marner right now for a mediocre Dman, he wouldn’t be forgiven in a few months and have fans defending him lol should have thrown him out on his ass a long time ago, before you even knew the devils make the playoffs and oilers don’t and before Hall wins the Hart, he’d be gone.

20 Jun 2018 02:56:20
senators acquire: boedker, bergman, 6th
san jose acquire: donaghey, 5th, 2nd, 4th, 5th
florida aqcuire: hoffman

who won the deal overall? thoughts? (i know it wasn't a 3 way deal, but that was the final result of the deal.

20 Jun 2018 03:17:06
Not Rambo.

20 Jun 2018 03:23:21
not sens -. -.

20 Jun 2018 03:25:25
SAN Jose. They are setting up to go afterTavares. Isles better get it done soon.

20 Jun 2018 03:53:37
Florida wins, San Jose 2nd, every other team that wasn't apart of the trade third, than Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 04:42:13
I really am dying to hear what Rambo has to say. He was so sure we were all nut jobs and were way off on Hoffman’s value. Lol.

20 Jun 2018 04:56:58
Rambo commented on a rumour on the last page. Saying Duchene is worth more than the 3rd overall but is untouchable unless tavares is going to Ottawa lol because he would leave NYI to go to Ottawa, right? Haha so he’s still alive and online, just not responding to Hoffman items.

20 Jun 2018 07:32:11
i don't understand why people say unbelievable to confirmed trades.

20 Jun 2018 14:13:58
He's still around jim he's sneaking around very Rambo like. Soon when we least expect it he will strike and blow us all away lol.

20 Jun 2018 15:31:13
Lol yeah. I just like after he was guaranteeing hoffman was worth a top 10 pick+ (Way off! ) he is now telling us how much Duchene is worth like his evaluation is gospel. Hoffman got 20-30% of what he said he would, and we are supposed to think he’s right on anyone else’s value? Haha.

23 Jun 2018 18:59:34
Wilson and San Jose won. Got all those picks while ridding themselves of a $4M contract.
Florida won next.
Ottawa lost the deal.

19 Jun 2018 15:51:46
Sharks trade Hoffman to Panthers for
2018 4th rn
2018 5th rn
2019 2nd rn

Panthers also get Sharks 2018 7th rn

19 Jun 2018 19:41:24
Depressing.

19 Jun 2018 20:04:29
Such a smart move by SJS. all that cap they freed up gives them a chance to actively go after JT or maybe IK.
Amazing how much Hoffman's value plummeted - that GF just cost him a lot of money on his next contract.

19 Jun 2018 20:55:17
Yeah, that’s way less than I even thought. Still don’t know how guys thought it wouldn’t affect his value at all tho lol.

 
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