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05 Dec 2018 09:53:47
Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) Sergei Bobrovsky

•) 6th Round Pick 2020


Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) Matt Murray

•) Bryan Rust

•) 3rd Round Pick 2020.

28 Nov 2018 20:14:52
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky
Pittsburgh: Matt Murray + Daniel Sprong + 2nd round pick

Too much? Not enough? Who would add and what?

28 Nov 2018 20:27:27
Its not too bad imp, but CBJ/ PIT will never do that. Too much hatred between them.

28 Nov 2018 21:14:38
Where is Pittsburgh going to get the 10.5 million cap space for bobrovsky?

28 Nov 2018 21:47:09
I don’t believe he gets 10.5. 9-9.5 is my guess. Still tough for pens to do with no one making real money going the other way. What about if CBJ trades panarin somewhere else and gets Kessel as a winger replacement in a deal for Bobrovsky? Would atleast be some money leaving Pitts too.

28 Nov 2018 22:23:47
so Unbiased Jim, would you be then suggesting sending kessel back instead of sprong? maybe adding a pick or prospect back to balance the value?

29 Nov 2018 03:02:05
No chance Pittsburgh sending Kessel out. The guy’s been nothing short of outstanding for Pittsburgh, who gets great value for $6.8. That’s got to be one of the best trades for both teams I’ve ever seen.

29 Nov 2018 04:41:07
Pens are trying to milk the last drops out of the Crosby/ Malkin era. Obviously Kessel is a big part of that but if the goaltending isn’t up to par, you have to give to get. Kessel is in the rumours of being traded every offseason. I’m not saying they would do it, but to get a goalie of bobrovskys quality and price tag, a really good piece with a fairly hefty salary has to leave. It’s a logical swap. I don’t think it would happen, but more likely and financially possible than guys that make no money going the other way.

24 Nov 2018 00:51:35
Apparently the Blues are unhappy with Vladimir Taresanko.

Would the blues entertain Senko for Nylander+?

Saint Louis: Taresanko

Pittsburgh: Kessel And 1st 2019

Or

Toronto: Nylander And Gardiner

No way he gets traded withen the conference.

24 Nov 2018 02:20:38
Neither of those offers get Terasenko.

24 Nov 2018 04:49:21
The Blues/ Leafs trade is interesting. Tarasenko only has about half the term left Nylander will have when he re-signs. So Blues get almost 8 years of Nylander, while Leafs get just shy of 5 years Vlad. Tarasenko is the better player, sure, but the difference in contract duration should account for something. Not to mention the near-elite offensive defenseman they receive in Gardiner (can they afford him as well? ) .

Big changes happening in St. Louis. All those big off season moves and Blues still aren’t any better. Trading an u happy Tarasenko (if rumors are true) indicates Blues management have given up on current roster like NYR a year ago, and are moving forward in tearing down the team and re-build.

24 Nov 2018 14:56:56
Blues are happy with tarasenko. This waa pure speculation by writers based on two firing.

Blues are not trading him.

23 Nov 2018 21:46:11
The Canucks, Penguins and Habs could all use a shake up.

Canucks send Pouliot and a 4th round pick to Habs for Jordie Benn and goalie Charlie Lindgren.

Canucks send Markstrom to Penguins for Riley Sheahan, Canucks retain 1 million of Markstrom contract this year and next.

Canucks Goalies for the remainder of this season Nilsson and combo of Lindgren/Demko neither have to clear waivers so the two can go up and down.

24 Nov 2018 00:50:20
Umm . no thanks.

23 Nov 2018 00:14:14
2 trades that i'd love to see

Calgary Flames:
• (C) Mark Jankowski
• (LHD) Juuso Välimäki
• (2019) First Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (match contracts with Gaudreau)

Calgary Flames:
• (RHD) Michael Stone (25% Salary Retained)
Pittsburgh Penguins:
• (C) Dominik Simon

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - William Nylander - Sam Bennett
Dominik Simon - Mikael Backlund - James Neal
Michael Frolik - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
TJ Brodie - Rasmus Andersson
Noah Hanifin - Dalton Prout.

23 Nov 2018 01:35:20
You posted the first one yesterday. I don’t know a lot about either of those players but do you have any ideas that give the leafs Bennett or do you not want to part with him?

23 Nov 2018 02:55:43
Minor problem with the second trade, stone is out long term with a blood clot.

23 Nov 2018 05:12:18
That Calgary trade is a winner. Using Schenn, Kessel (twice), and O’Reilly trades as precedent, Nylander is worth 2x1st + roster player. And that is pretty much exactly what you have offered here. Jankowski hasn’t done much on Flames. Could maybe turn it around with Toronto. Välimäki is very highly rated prospect and likely make Leafs team full time next year. And the 1st is what it is.

I like this trade. If Leafs could get a return like that for greedy Needylander, would be more than acceptable.

23 Nov 2018 08:31:22
LeafsGM and Leafs17 i like your responses thank you

23 Nov 2018 13:09:15
I’d ask to include Bennet over Jankowski.

19 Nov 2018 05:25:43
Both Matta and Petan need a change of scenery. Also the Pens add an extra NHL roster player while Petan will get to play with better players. Could be similar to Sheary when he was with the Pens. Jets get a much better upgrade to their LHD who can play with Myers.

WPG: Petan, Morrow
PIT: Matta

19 Nov 2018 11:42:24
No from pens and Matta is a RHD.

19 Nov 2018 13:04:51
No he’s not vbb’s.

19 Nov 2018 13:06:46
First off, not a chance lol

Secondly, You trade for a RW, pay him $7.5+mill and then make him LW on the 3rd line with another $7+mill winger while a guy with 2 NHL games takes 1RW?!

19 Nov 2018 14:03:57
Not nearly enough going to Pittsburgh.

19 Nov 2018 14:12:47
Sorry, wrong post. But no, pens would want more.

18 Nov 2018 20:25:34
Calgary - (2019) Third Round Pick
Vegas - Ryan Reaves

Calgary - Michael Stone & Curtis Lazar
Pittsburgh - Jamie Oleksiak

Calgary gets bigger and stronger

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Dube - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Reaves

Giordano - Hamonic
Hanifin - Brodie
Välimäki - Oleksiak

18 Nov 2018 23:35:17
Gotta love the size of Oleksiak. Pittsburgh only paid a 3rd to acquire him, so they would be coming out ahead. Not sure if they would be wanting to make this trade. I think they’re pretty happy with the skating bear. They did sign him three more years after all.

Oleksiak beside Valimaki could be a nice line.

09 Nov 2018 23:20:14
I might be way off here but Minnesota is looking for scoring and Pittsburgh is looking to change things up.
Spurgeon, Fehr & a 1st for Kessel
Or
Spurgeon, Eriksson for Kessel

Spurgeon improves Pittsburgh's defense, Fehr adds some center depth and has already played there, plus a 1st. In the second proposal, I really don't know much about Eriksson but he's young and from what I've heard from you guys, he's supposed to be good. The cap in both deals are similar. Although Kessel only plays at one end of the rink, he is at the top of the league in scoring year after year. You have to give to get.

10 Nov 2018 04:50:20
Erikson El might become a bust at this point.

09 Nov 2018 17:33:30
The Pittsburgh Penguins send (RW) Daniel Sprong & (2019) 1st-Round Pick to The Las Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for (D) Shea Theodore.

The Pittsburgh Penguins send (2019) 3rd-Round Pick & (D) Jamie Oleksiak to The Calgary Flames in exchange for (RW) Michael Frolik & (D) Michael Stone.


Guentzel - Crosby - Hornqvist
Hagelin - Malkin - Kessel
Simon - Brassard - Frolik
Sheahan - Cullen - Rust

Theodore - Letang
Dumoulin - Johnson
Maatta - Stone

09 Nov 2018 11:28:59
Mtl:Sherback, 3rd2019

Pitts: Sherback

09 Nov 2018 13:02:41
Huh? Assume Sprong i think?

If so, not bad.

09 Nov 2018 14:42:14
Ahah yes Sprong my bad. Robaxacet for my back is what I blaming this on.

09 Nov 2018 03:28:34
The Pittsburgh Penguins send (RW) Daniel Sprong to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for (D) Troy Stecher

08 Nov 2018 23:48:32
Mtl: Sherback

Pitts:Sprong

09 Nov 2018 03:26:24
No from Pittsburgh

08 Nov 2018 21:20:57
So there are reports of Sprong (Pittsburgh) being on the trade block, and with Schultz out long term (and Jack Johnsson rubbishing the bed so far) the Pens could want to acquire a defenceman.

To Penguins:
Braun
To SJ:
Sprong

1 for 1, a simple trade, obviously if this was more realistic "balance picks" would be involved.

04 Nov 2018 14:24:25
Pens need some grit with upside.
Cal
Sam Bennett
Pitt
Daniel Sprong plus a 2nd. Becomes a first if Bennett scores 20 goals or 50 points. I think Bennett would thrive in Pittsburgh and Sprong adds more skill to the Flames. Plus the pick helps the Flames replenish a bit or gives them a chip to trade.

Thoughts?

04 Nov 2018 16:00:10
Friedman mentioned the log jam of playing time in Calgary and that Neal and Bennet could use more. And he suggested they look into trading Frolik before Bennet or Neal. And there was some praise for Bennet this year now for other things he is bringing to the team while not putting up a ton of points. Calgary keeps him.

05 Nov 2018 17:16:24
Sprong hasn’t done much himself since being drafted. Bennett may be a bust, but he still puts up better numbers than Sprong. Penguins still needs defense imo. They were so desperate they signed Oleksiak. And with two old men in Johnson and Letang as the best players in the back end, I can’t see their defense supporting the offense for very much longer. If they trade Sprong, it makes more sense to bring in depth defense prospects than depth forward prospects.

25 Oct 2018 04:02:33
Here's a couple.
To Pens
Sam Bennett
Stone 50% retained
To Calgary
Zack Ashton-Reese
Tristan Jarry


To Edmonton
Tritan Jarry
Dan Sprong
Jack Johnson- salary retention if needed to match.
To Pittsburgh
Nurse
Kassian

25 Oct 2018 13:19:29
Lol. These trades are pretty great for Pens. 🍻.

25 Oct 2018 14:15:17
Tell me why you think calgary needs another goalie? Their 2 best prospects are goalies and ridich is playing great as the backup, and for bennet and retained stone for a completeley useless player and a goalie that's not as good as Calgarys 5 best goalies, That's ridiculous.

25 Oct 2018 14:18:14
Edmonton one is pretty horrible also, jack Johnson youd have to pay someone to take, not give a promising young defenseman.

25 Oct 2018 18:06:22
So, I take it as a no to both? 😂.

22 Oct 2018 07:24:29
EDM - Ryan Strome + 1st Rd Pick
MTL - Paul Byron

EDM - Milan Lucic + 5th Rd Pick
PIT - Carl Hagelin

Edmonton gets faster, pittsburgh gets tougher, montreal gets depth down the middle and a pick.

Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Rattie
Byron - Draisaitl - Puljujärvi
Hagelin - Cagguila - Yamamoto
Khaira - Brodziak - Kassian

And as a cool experiment it would be cool to see them try out a really speedy line


Carl Hagelin - Connor McDavid - Paul Byron

22 Oct 2018 12:05:46
Ryan Strome and a 1st for Byron? Ok!

22 Oct 2018 15:10:48
Might as well make it a 4 way trade and throw in Seabrook and Loui Eriksson to Pittsburgh as well.

22 Oct 2018 19:03:47
That’s a tough choice, eh Sosa?! Haha.

22 Oct 2018 21:46:30
Was going to get greedy and say add Klefbom as well, but figured. jus take it and run lol.

23 Oct 2018 04:30:48
Add Klefbom lol.

23 Oct 2018 13:21:11
Lol. Only add Klefbom if you'll add Alzner 😂😜😜🍻.

10 Oct 2018 14:47:37
With Murray down, do you think Pittsburgh could think about aquiring Bobrovsky?
To Columbus:
Desmith, 2019 1st, Sprong, Maatta
To Pittsburgh:
Bobrovsky (1 year extension), Milano

10 Oct 2018 16:03:14
I think Columbus is going to ride Bobrovsky myself. A 2x Vezina winner in net to carry them deep into the playoffs. He’s still regarded my most to be the best goalie in the league. AS Columbus sees themselves as competitive, you can be sure they will keep him. As we saw last year, and virtually almost every year, a hot goalie can carry a team all the way. And who better to bet on than Bobrovsky?

10 Oct 2018 16:59:44
What's with the 1 year extension? You think bobrovsky or any other star player would sign a 1 year extension? I know I don't.

10 Oct 2018 19:08:03
Idk just to make it more fair I guess.

21 Aug 2018 12:44:30
habs : paccioretty + benn

pittsburgh: sprong +1st * conditional if patches sign, if he doesn’t sign pens send a 2nd.

21 Aug 2018 14:10:11
If that's the return the habs are going to get, I think they're going to hold on to Pacioretty and try to re sign him

21 Aug 2018 15:28:55
Pens accept.

21 Aug 2018 21:00:43
Umm cap? Pens have roughly 2.5 mil in cap space patch at 4.5 Weber at 1.1, pens would have to include say hagelin to make it work.

22 Aug 2018 17:38:53
I guess this works for the Habs since they just stocked up on Center prospects.

There may be cap concerns but this is fair for Patches as a rental.

Overall a good proposal.

07 Aug 2018 16:20:36
What if Mtl and Pittsburg made a deal?


Pitts:Sprong, Maata

Mtl: Patches, 2rd 2019

Would Pittsburg consider?

07 Aug 2018 16:34:48
I don’t think so. Pens can’t afford to trade def.

07 Aug 2018 16:37:24
Why would Habs?
I've been hearing about Sprong for what seems like forever, however. haven't seen him. And Maata isn't anything special
I'd rather get picks . after the Skinner deal, we aren't going to get the return we would all like to see. so., if they are going to rebuild. let em rebuild, Sprong and Maata aren't the peices I want to see in a rebuild.

07 Aug 2018 16:48:25
I’d say no from both. Habs would want/ need young talent and picks. Maata is just a good solid D. Would help a good team but habs won’t be able to get the most out of him for a cpl years atleast.

And penguins D is really weak after Letang. Plus Sprong has some upside that they hope will be cheap offense sooner than later.

07 Aug 2018 19:01:06
I like maata. I wouldn't mind this deal.

10 Jul 2018 21:42:53
Word is Montreal isn't going to extend pacciorety. They are going to trade Him ASAP

Montreal: Pacciorety
Penguins: Carl Hagelin, Zach Aston Reese, 2019 2nd, 2019 4th, Conditional 2021 2nd (if Pacciorety resigns)

Or
Montreal: Pacciorety, conditional 2019 4th ( if pacciorety doesn't resign, pick becomes 3rd)
Wild: Erickson Ek, 2019 1st

Pacciorety value is at a low. Coming off a terrible season(for him), 1year left, and teams know that Montreal isn't going to resign him, so they have to trade him

10 Jul 2018 22:06:50
Montreal would pass on both of those. But it’s MB so you never know.

10 Jul 2018 23:56:03
It’s terrible asset management. They make it known they don’t want him. That loses leverage anyway, but then to hold a press conference preaching attitude and character over skill, then next time news comes out of MBs office it’s saying patches isn’t welcome back. So not only did they lose leverage, but now they raise red flags about pacciorettys character (that may or may not be true) to some teams that otherwise might have been interested. Some teams will not inquire about him, or offer far less if they think he could be a problem.

Like Sens holding onto Hoffman for a better offer at the deadline, knowing all this dressing room crap was going on, and then sold him at pennies on the dollar when it hit the news. But this isn’t media releasing a bad story, this is MB devaluing his own captain lol.

11 Jul 2018 01:42:05
Think the Minnesota one isn't bad, get a 1st and a decent player, think that's really all they can expect at this point. Be better if it was expected to be a higher pick. Maybe a little more especially if there's a contract agreement.

11 Jul 2018 02:10:09
No Jim it's mostly media. You should know about that.

11 Jul 2018 02:31:40
With regards to Hoffman if the Sens did know about this they would have had to disclose this info to the other teams they were trying to trade him to. and if for some reason they could lie that they didn't know and get away with it it would still be frowned upon by all the other gms the same way an offer sheet is when it did come out.

11 Jul 2018 02:33:17
There has been 500 pacioretty rumors this summer by people claiming to have a source but none have actually happened. People must remember the media in montreal is bad when things are going well look out when they are not.

11 Jul 2018 09:22:47
Not enough from Pittsburgh and too much from Minnesota IMO.

11 Jul 2018 12:30:12
too much from pittsburgh
and i'd say yes from minnesota provided the 1st is lottery protected (close 2019 or 2020)

11 Jul 2018 13:43:35
The Pitt trade is atrocious for Montreal.
The minny trade I can’t see them making that at all.

11 Jul 2018 13:45:08
If that's what i'm getting for patches in keeping him ans hoppin to extended or get more at dealine. But not worth lettint him for hopes. Need something now if in letting e0 goals walk out this season.

11 Jul 2018 15:24:17
@Habby, I don’t think there’s any rule about disclosing wife drama like a physical injury lol but even if they were to disclose it in private trade talks, it would have been a lot better for Dorian to talk to chirelli or whoever and say “the dressing room is split, 1 of 2 guys has to go, hoffman is one of them, what’s your offer? ” And move him then.

Because instead, they played hardball, it hits the fan, now a media circus is going to follow him, as where if he was traded 1500 miles away before it went public, karlssons wife maybe wouldn’t have had to follow through on the legal stuff. And Sens fan base wouldn’t have more ammo to hurl at Dorian and Melnyk for losing yet another trade.

11 Jul 2018 15:30:43
And if there’s this many rumblings of a fractured relationship between paccioretty and the habs management, there’s a decent chance that more concrete evidence of that could come out in the coming weeks. And depending what that info is, could affect his trade value. Don’t want to be like the senators, no one wants to be like the senators right now lol.

11 Jul 2018 16:04:21
Yes jim but I think we can both agree that there is usually a lot more goes on behind the scenes that me or you or any of the insiders know. Sometimes you got to ask yourself who is this source that everyone talks about? Sources close to a team that could actually leak true info would not do so because if they were caught they would be fired. why would someone in that situation leak info to a 2nd rate reporter so he could put it in a newspaper for everyone to see. i'm sure a few things about pacioretty may have some merit but I'm willing to bet 99% don't it's purely speculation based on what people think will happen. With regards to Hoffman if Dorian and crew knew there was a chance karlsons wife was considering pressing charges against Hoffmann (wife) then yes this would have to been brought to the attention of the other team.

11 Jul 2018 16:39:54
If there is a fractured relationship it's because patch wants more on his new deal then montreal wants to pay. Pretty simple really and that happens a lot it's just this being a more then usual boring summer with not much to talk about it's being blown up in montreal. Notice when everyone though karlsson would be traded last week there was zero talk about pacioretty lol. or when the tavares saga was going on. People looking for news is all it is. The same thing is going on that has been since last December with pacioretty his name is out there and bergevin is listening to offers. If he gets an offer he likes he will trade him. you can paint it in any way you like but we all said the same things about duchene and sakic done pretty good in that deal. As of now if patch doesn't resign he will be a ufa after this year and will be traded as such. So does he have more trade value now or if he was resigned at 8 year 8 mil per? My guess is he has more value now. Does that mean the habs will get huge haul for him. Probably not. But they should be able to get something that will help them moving forward. Picks or prospects is my hope.

11 Jul 2018 16:44:02
Yeah. I think The Athletic is a pretty good outlet, seem to have some connections and smart people employed. But It’s not criminal charges that she brought against them. It’s a protection order saying she can’t contact her. It’s a civil matter. Cody Ceci’s wife threw a flaming bottle of gasoline on a another woman (accidentally, but what else can possibly happen in Ottawa this summer?!?! ) and the woman was fighting for her life and she has had like 15 or 20 surgeries. Almost guaranteed a lawsuit will come from that too but again it will be a civil matter, no criminal charges and I doubt it has to be disclosed.

Regardless, we will see. Paccioretty has said he wants to stay and a as willing to sign 8 years (Montreal Gazette) but when he’s traded, more of the story will come out, and I’m willing to bet that a real story of a very fractured relationship will emerge.

11 Jul 2018 19:25:04
It could happen jim I'm not going to rule that out. I just think at this time it's just more of a contract thing then anything else. could Possibly be friction between patch and other players on team though. This summer seems more rampant with loose rumors and texts from sources which have been proven wrong then other years to me. i think it comes from this years uneventful draft and mediocre free agent class making very few headlines. To me now unless I hear straight from bob mckenzie or elliote friedman I don't even listen to it.

11 Jul 2018 19:41:13
But on the note of things being disclosed everything is suppose to be disclosed that you are aware of concerning the player your trading. legal matters drinking or partying habits, locker room feuds injuries etc. all could be assumed to affect the players performance as could the legal matter. Off ice issues can be a wide range of things if the other gm asks about a players situation. when trade negotiations are taking place how often do you think the other gm asks why are you trading him? How's that knee injury? Is there any truth about these rumors? A Gm don't just say we'll he's a good player let's see if we can get him, without doing their homework first. I remember when the habs traded mike riberio for janne ninnima there was hardly any talk of riberios drinking problem at the time but gainey had to disclose that info to other Gms and that's the only offer he got. i know it's not the same as the Hoffman case but gainey could have kept quiet about it and got another deal elsewhere and just waited for the other team to find out. But I'm pretty sure the other team then could have filed a grievance to the league and got compensated.

 
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