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07 Aug 2018 16:20:36
What if Mtl and Pittsburg made a deal?


Pitts:Sprong, Maata

Mtl: Patches, 2rd 2019

Would Pittsburg consider?

07 Aug 2018 16:34:48
I don’t think so. Pens can’t afford to trade def.

07 Aug 2018 16:37:24
Why would Habs?
I've been hearing about Sprong for what seems like forever, however. haven't seen him. And Maata isn't anything special
I'd rather get picks . after the Skinner deal, we aren't going to get the return we would all like to see. so., if they are going to rebuild. let em rebuild, Sprong and Maata aren't the peices I want to see in a rebuild.

07 Aug 2018 16:48:25
I’d say no from both. Habs would want/ need young talent and picks. Maata is just a good solid D. Would help a good team but habs won’t be able to get the most out of him for a cpl years atleast.

And penguins D is really weak after Letang. Plus Sprong has some upside that they hope will be cheap offense sooner than later.

07 Aug 2018 19:01:06
I like maata. I wouldn't mind this deal.

10 Jul 2018 21:42:53
Word is Montreal isn't going to extend pacciorety. They are going to trade Him ASAP

Montreal: Pacciorety
Penguins: Carl Hagelin, Zach Aston Reese, 2019 2nd, 2019 4th, Conditional 2021 2nd (if Pacciorety resigns)

Or
Montreal: Pacciorety, conditional 2019 4th ( if pacciorety doesn't resign, pick becomes 3rd)
Wild: Erickson Ek, 2019 1st

Pacciorety value is at a low. Coming off a terrible season(for him), 1year left, and teams know that Montreal isn't going to resign him, so they have to trade him

10 Jul 2018 22:06:50
Montreal would pass on both of those. But it’s MB so you never know.

10 Jul 2018 23:56:03
It’s terrible asset management. They make it known they don’t want him. That loses leverage anyway, but then to hold a press conference preaching attitude and character over skill, then next time news comes out of MBs office it’s saying patches isn’t welcome back. So not only did they lose leverage, but now they raise red flags about pacciorettys character (that may or may not be true) to some teams that otherwise might have been interested. Some teams will not inquire about him, or offer far less if they think he could be a problem.

Like Sens holding onto Hoffman for a better offer at the deadline, knowing all this dressing room crap was going on, and then sold him at pennies on the dollar when it hit the news. But this isn’t media releasing a bad story, this is MB devaluing his own captain lol.

11 Jul 2018 01:42:05
Think the Minnesota one isn't bad, get a 1st and a decent player, think that's really all they can expect at this point. Be better if it was expected to be a higher pick. Maybe a little more especially if there's a contract agreement.

11 Jul 2018 02:10:09
No Jim it's mostly media. You should know about that.

11 Jul 2018 02:31:40
With regards to Hoffman if the Sens did know about this they would have had to disclose this info to the other teams they were trying to trade him to. and if for some reason they could lie that they didn't know and get away with it it would still be frowned upon by all the other gms the same way an offer sheet is when it did come out.

11 Jul 2018 02:33:17
There has been 500 pacioretty rumors this summer by people claiming to have a source but none have actually happened. People must remember the media in montreal is bad when things are going well look out when they are not.

11 Jul 2018 09:22:47
Not enough from Pittsburgh and too much from Minnesota IMO.

11 Jul 2018 12:30:12
too much from pittsburgh
and i'd say yes from minnesota provided the 1st is lottery protected (close 2019 or 2020)

11 Jul 2018 13:43:35
The Pitt trade is atrocious for Montreal.
The minny trade I can’t see them making that at all.

11 Jul 2018 13:45:08
If that's what i'm getting for patches in keeping him ans hoppin to extended or get more at dealine. But not worth lettint him for hopes. Need something now if in letting e0 goals walk out this season.

11 Jul 2018 15:24:17
@Habby, I don’t think there’s any rule about disclosing wife drama like a physical injury lol but even if they were to disclose it in private trade talks, it would have been a lot better for Dorian to talk to chirelli or whoever and say “the dressing room is split, 1 of 2 guys has to go, hoffman is one of them, what’s your offer? ” And move him then.

Because instead, they played hardball, it hits the fan, now a media circus is going to follow him, as where if he was traded 1500 miles away before it went public, karlssons wife maybe wouldn’t have had to follow through on the legal stuff. And Sens fan base wouldn’t have more ammo to hurl at Dorian and Melnyk for losing yet another trade.

11 Jul 2018 15:30:43
And if there’s this many rumblings of a fractured relationship between paccioretty and the habs management, there’s a decent chance that more concrete evidence of that could come out in the coming weeks. And depending what that info is, could affect his trade value. Don’t want to be like the senators, no one wants to be like the senators right now lol.

11 Jul 2018 16:04:21
Yes jim but I think we can both agree that there is usually a lot more goes on behind the scenes that me or you or any of the insiders know. Sometimes you got to ask yourself who is this source that everyone talks about? Sources close to a team that could actually leak true info would not do so because if they were caught they would be fired. why would someone in that situation leak info to a 2nd rate reporter so he could put it in a newspaper for everyone to see. i'm sure a few things about pacioretty may have some merit but I'm willing to bet 99% don't it's purely speculation based on what people think will happen. With regards to Hoffman if Dorian and crew knew there was a chance karlsons wife was considering pressing charges against Hoffmann (wife) then yes this would have to been brought to the attention of the other team.

11 Jul 2018 16:39:54
If there is a fractured relationship it's because patch wants more on his new deal then montreal wants to pay. Pretty simple really and that happens a lot it's just this being a more then usual boring summer with not much to talk about it's being blown up in montreal. Notice when everyone though karlsson would be traded last week there was zero talk about pacioretty lol. or when the tavares saga was going on. People looking for news is all it is. The same thing is going on that has been since last December with pacioretty his name is out there and bergevin is listening to offers. If he gets an offer he likes he will trade him. you can paint it in any way you like but we all said the same things about duchene and sakic done pretty good in that deal. As of now if patch doesn't resign he will be a ufa after this year and will be traded as such. So does he have more trade value now or if he was resigned at 8 year 8 mil per? My guess is he has more value now. Does that mean the habs will get huge haul for him. Probably not. But they should be able to get something that will help them moving forward. Picks or prospects is my hope.

11 Jul 2018 16:44:02
Yeah. I think The Athletic is a pretty good outlet, seem to have some connections and smart people employed. But It’s not criminal charges that she brought against them. It’s a protection order saying she can’t contact her. It’s a civil matter. Cody Ceci’s wife threw a flaming bottle of gasoline on a another woman (accidentally, but what else can possibly happen in Ottawa this summer?!?! ) and the woman was fighting for her life and she has had like 15 or 20 surgeries. Almost guaranteed a lawsuit will come from that too but again it will be a civil matter, no criminal charges and I doubt it has to be disclosed.

Regardless, we will see. Paccioretty has said he wants to stay and a as willing to sign 8 years (Montreal Gazette) but when he’s traded, more of the story will come out, and I’m willing to bet that a real story of a very fractured relationship will emerge.

11 Jul 2018 19:25:04
It could happen jim I'm not going to rule that out. I just think at this time it's just more of a contract thing then anything else. could Possibly be friction between patch and other players on team though. This summer seems more rampant with loose rumors and texts from sources which have been proven wrong then other years to me. i think it comes from this years uneventful draft and mediocre free agent class making very few headlines. To me now unless I hear straight from bob mckenzie or elliote friedman I don't even listen to it.

11 Jul 2018 19:41:13
But on the note of things being disclosed everything is suppose to be disclosed that you are aware of concerning the player your trading. legal matters drinking or partying habits, locker room feuds injuries etc. all could be assumed to affect the players performance as could the legal matter. Off ice issues can be a wide range of things if the other gm asks about a players situation. when trade negotiations are taking place how often do you think the other gm asks why are you trading him? How's that knee injury? Is there any truth about these rumors? A Gm don't just say we'll he's a good player let's see if we can get him, without doing their homework first. I remember when the habs traded mike riberio for janne ninnima there was hardly any talk of riberios drinking problem at the time but gainey had to disclose that info to other Gms and that's the only offer he got. i know it's not the same as the Hoffman case but gainey could have kept quiet about it and got another deal elsewhere and just waited for the other team to find out. But I'm pretty sure the other team then could have filed a grievance to the league and got compensated.

02 Jul 2018 00:21:54
Leafs lines 2018-2019

Hyman-Mathews-Nylander
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johanson-Kadri-Kappanen
LW=X C=Y Connor Brown

X= Martin, Josh Jooris, Josh Leivo or Carl Grundstrom

Y= Fredrick Gauthier, Par Lindholm or a FA

Carl Grundstrom is the leafs most promising prospect imo and while his style is a Blake Wheeler/Tom Wilson ( obviously not on the same planet as Wheeler right now. )hybrid I don't think he's suited for 4th line minutes

Rielly-Hanisey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermotte-Carrick

I think this Dcore is underrated Rielly and Gardiner are both Priemier offensive deffensman near elite ( 50 points don't grow on trees ) Dermotte is projected to replace Gardiner and the leafs are have plenty of top young dman in the System.

The leafs deffense is better then the Pens 2017 cup team but the leafs could use a complementary dman for Rielly like Tanev

Hopefully Lilijgren pans out as a Rielly-Lillijgren line would be special.

Anyways what would Leafs-Vancouver fans think of this?

Toronto: Connor Brown, Ron Hainesey and a 2019 1st

Vancouver: Chris Tanev

Vancouver- gets a great young 3rd line forward who can move up and down the lineup, a nice veteran replacement who brings strong leadership. And a 1st for their rebuild

Toronto- gets exactly what they need at a cheap cat hit the only down side is he is often injured.

02 Jul 2018 18:06:09
Lmao tavares playing 2nd line is pretty funny lol. usually the better player goes on line 1 vbbvbb just shows how ignorant you are to the sport.

02 Jul 2018 19:37:35
^ i'm sure Tavares won’t cry because he's playing second line lol if anything would be down to play against easier competition.

02 Jul 2018 19:50:29
Yah okay I guess the 4 panelists on the Free Agency frenzy show who said Tavares would compliment Mathews good but “ Mathews is just on a different level with 5 on 5 offense and deffensive play “they also stated “ Mathews is a Generational talent “ Mathews is the better player and all of the “ experts “ agree so the opinions of a couple of delusional oilers fans and a Psychiatric patient are pretty irrelevant to me and society in general.

Do you remember when Mathews scored 4 goals in his 1st AHL game as an 18 year old single handedly beating the the Senators? Probably not considering if you knew anything you’d know Babcock roles his top 6 and dosent have a definitive top line but I mean let’s hear your counter argument it’ll hold just about as much credibility as your opinion on Hoffman returning a top 5 pick.

02 Jul 2018 20:33:45
Well Rambo, before you start calling out other user's ignorance of the sport (which is hilariously ironic to begin with) you probably should have done some research on the matter where you would have discovered that Babcock has already stated that he will essentially roll two first lines. Matthews paired with Nylander, Tavares with Marner.

School's out kiddo; maybe put down your xbox controller and pick up a book sometime--it may make you less of a putz.

02 Jul 2018 20:56:03
There’s no helping this guy. Vbbb’s may exaggerate sometimes but he knows a lot more about the sport than you Rambo.

02 Jul 2018 21:18:26
I meant NHL not AHL lol.

01 Jul 2018 23:09:09
To Ottawa: Kris Letang and 1st round pick (2019)



To Pittsburgh: Erik Karlsson

02 Jul 2018 18:07:58
Not a chance.

03 Jul 2018 03:03:18
Lol i agree with ram.

26 Jun 2018 16:54:34
LA:Conor Sheary

PIT:3rd 2019

LA gets needed offence from a young goal scorer

PIT gets a pick and cap relief.

27 Jun 2018 22:08:57
They dumped Sheary and Hunwick, about $5.6M in cap to Buffalo for a mid pick.
And have a verbal agreement in place to sign Jack Johnson July 1.

21 Jun 2018 21:48:33
ottawa: anderson + pittsburgh 1st
calgary: Bennett + parsons

ottawa: Karlsson + ryan + 2nd 2020
vegas: glass + 2019 1st + legace + garrison + brannstrom

Ottawa: stone
buffalo: reinhardt + 1st?

any of these close? who adds? what would you change?

21 Jun 2018 22:42:57
I really hope that’s not 1st as in 1st overall.

21 Jun 2018 22:50:42
No from Calgary, Ottawa, Buffalo.

21 Jun 2018 23:38:00
Reinhart and dahlin for stone? Did I read this correctly?

22 Jun 2018 01:45:03
No from Ottawa

Not a chance Ottawa does the Vegas deal or even thinks about it

Can't see buffalo doing last 1.

18 Jun 2018 21:23:09
To Pittsburgh:
- Sam Bennett
- T. J. Brodie

To Calgary:
- Phil Kessel (25% retained)
- 3rd round pick

.
To Arizona:
- Curtis Lazar
- Pit 3rd round pick

To Calgary:
- Cristian Fischer

.
To Toronto:
- Michael Stone (25% retained)

To Calgary:
- Andreas Johnsson

.

Sign Anotione Roussel 2x2m
.

New Look Flames:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Kessel
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Mangiapane-Jankowski-Fischer
Roussel-Johnsson-Shore

Giordano-Hamilton
Kulak-Hamonic
Kylington/ Valimaki-Andersson

Smith
Rittich

18 Jun 2018 22:08:57
No from Toronto would rather keep Andreas Johnson. You can have Leivo and a 4th tho.

18 Jun 2018 22:59:53
Can’t see Pitt retaining any salary
No from Arizona
Idk enough about Johnsson.

18 Jun 2018 23:30:26
looks like the top line with the worst plus minus in the nhl 2018-2019 season.

18 Jun 2018 23:47:49
No way Toronto makes that trade.

19 Jun 2018 01:27:46
Where is Ferland, Brouwer, Even Hathaway and Foo?
Stajan.
I'm not even a Flames fan and theses question marks came up right away.

19 Jun 2018 19:30:32
Foo has played 4 games. he's bubble to make the team. Brouwer is not good at all. Hathaway is gritty but lacks any sort of skill.

Ferland is the big one. I left him off because he's had a concussion again for the thord or fourth time so i left him off because i'm not sure how effective he would be.

15 Jun 2018 07:23:50
PIT -
• Daniel Sprong
• Olli Maatta
• Jake Guentzel
• Carl Hagelin

OTT -
• Erik Karlsson (verbal agreement to sign with Pittsburgh before July 1st)

15 Jun 2018 17:54:18
take off Guentzel off the deal for PIT and I'll believe it a bit more or add a draft pick from Ottawa because I like EK but he's not worth what you want.

17 Jun 2018 15:21:49
no from Ottawa dream on RickyD87 and Franchise Billy.

07 Jun 2018 11:11:57
Apparently the Blackhawks won't tolerate being bad this year and will make a massive offer for Tavares. Also Ducks have requested Perry's no trade list and the Pens are looking to trade Kessel.
I got a couple trades i can think of.

To CHI
• John Tavares
To NYI
• Nick Schmaltz
• Corey Crawford
• Alex DeBrincat

To CHI
• Corey Perry
To ANA
• 1st Round Pick
• Artem Anisimov

To CHI
• Phil Kessel
To PIT
• Brent Seabrook
• Anthony Duclair

To CHI
• Sam Bennett
To CGY
• John Hayden
• 2nd Round Pick

Brandon Saad - Jonathan Toews - Patrick Kane
Phil Kessel - John Tavares - Corey Perry
Tomas Jurco - Sam Bennett - Patrick Sharp
Vince Hinostroza - David Kampf - Andreas Martinsen

Imagine those lines!!!!!

07 Jun 2018 12:29:06
Trade 1 - Let's trade our future and the franchise goalie for a twenty extra days to convince JT to sign

Trade 2 - Future young star for aging overpayed winger

Trade 3 - C'mon it's 2018, not 2010. Seabrook's contract in one of the worst in the league, adding Duclair only lessens the nagative value and you want an NHL Top10 scoring forward in return? (and slot him on his off wing)

Trade 4 - This one only is close to fair.


Sharp has retired, Martinsen is a UFA and propably won't be back. Also who is Hawks starting goalie in this scenario?

07 Jun 2018 13:56:43
1) salary cap
2) giving away futures much?

07 Jun 2018 21:17:08
So what happens after John Tavares refuses to sign in Chicago then resigns in New York after they get those premium assets?

02 Jun 2018 22:00:37
Sources saying Blackhawks won't tolerate being bad again and will make a huge offer for Tavares. But they need to shed cap obviously before they can do that.

#1 Trade
To AZ:
• Marian Hossa (Dump)
• 8th Overall
• Matthew Highmore
To CHI:
• Future Considerations

#2 Trade
To NYI:
• Corey Crawford
• Alex Debrincat
• Artem Anisimov
• 2nd Round Pick
To CHI:
• John Tavares (verbal agreement to resign)

#3 Trade
To PIT:
• Connor Murphy
• 2019 1st Round Pick
• Anthony Duclair
To CHI:
• Phil Kessel

Projected Line-up Chicago

Brandon Saad - Jonathan Toews - Patrick Kane
Tomas Jurco - John Tavares - Phil Kessel
Andreas Martinsen - Nick Schmaltz - Patrick Sharp

02 Jun 2018 22:28:22
100% won't happen.
Chicago is declining and should just start a complete rebuild.
Keith, Seabrook are old. Toews is now a 50-55 point player, Saad sucks, and Kane is by himself.

If they even DO sign Tavares (and they wont) Does that mean Toews will be a second line center? He earns like 10.5 million per season. Not happening.

Also, there's no way Chicago trades the 8th overall for absolutely nothing. ''Future Considerations'' is nothing. Even if it means getting rid of Hossa's contract.

Phil Kessel is worth more than a top 4 defenceman, a bottom 6 forward and a pick that might be anywhere from 1-15. They won't trade Kessel for to gamble on the lottery.

02 Jun 2018 23:44:38
They’d be giving up a lot of youth and probably get worse. Not a good idea for Chicago IMO.

02 Jun 2018 23:54:31
You also barely cleaned out any cap considering Johnny T going to get atleast 10 mil and kessel is around 6 or so?

03 Jun 2018 01:17:17
1. You can put Hossa on LTIR because of his skin condition so his cap hit dosent go against the cap so there goes that deal. Not very well thought out.

2.Why wouldn’t they just sign him for free that deal is silly at most his rights are worth a 2nd round pick tops

3. How does this make the pens better in anyway?

Terrible post.

03 Jun 2018 02:47:17
FIrst trade is brutal. Can just place Hossa on LTIR.

And definite no to the NYI trade. No need to get a verbal agreement at this time; either try to sign him on July 1st or dont. No need to give up that many assets.

Third trade imo is underwhelming for Phil, but i genuinelly don't think CHI should want/ need him.

30 May 2018 13:20:49
to Arizona:
• Phil Kessel
to Pittsburgh:
• Jason Demers (25% Retained Salary)
• Christian Dvorak
• 2nd Round Pick

to Arizona:
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
• Jesse Puljujärvi
• 10th Overall
to Edmonton:
• Oliver Ekman-Larsson
• Max Domi

to Arizona:
• Sam Bennett
• Rasmus Andersson
to Calgary:
• Christian Fischer
• Nick Cousins

to Arizona:
• Chris Tanev
• Derrick Pouliot
to Vancouver:
• 5th Overall
• 10th Overall (via EDM)

Richard Panik - Derek Stepan - Phil Kessel
Brendan Perlini - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Clayton Keller
Sam Bennett - Dylan Strome - Jesse Puljujärvi
Jordan Martinook - Brad Richardson - Zac Rinaldo

Jacob Chychrun - Chris Tanev
Rasmus Andersson - Alex Goligoski
Kevin Connauton - Trevon Murphy

30 May 2018 13:38:51
Way to much for Tanev.

30 May 2018 13:39:17
Not even close for Kessel.

30 May 2018 21:04:25
2 top 10 picks for Tanev lol where do people get these values?!

29 May 2018 01:14:00
To Pitts - Brodie frolik and right to Adam fox
To cal- kessel and sheary

29 May 2018 15:47:50
Pittsburgh give way too much. Kessel alone has more value than what CGY offers since he comes off an all-star season.

29 May 2018 16:28:11
Yes but teams are going to be careful when trading for him, he just came off an all star season and yet the team is looking to trade him. What does that say about him? While he is an amazing player there have been multiple reports that he is lazy at practice, puts his own personal goal scorer above the teams welfare, and doesn’t get along with the coaching staff. That could drive a lot of teams off. Again he’s one of the best wingers in the league coming off a great season but his value is likely brought down by his actions off the ice and in practice.

30 May 2018 00:01:25
Actually Xcing, his assist to goal ratio has gotten better and better as his career goes in including almost 60 assists this year. So I don’t see how he puts his own goal scoring above what’s best for the team first of all. Secondly, the dispute between him and Sullivan was apparently that they wanted to sit him down the stretch for some rest and he hasn’t missed a game since the first game he played for the leafs 8 years ago. He didn’t want to end his Ironman streak as a healthy scratch. A few months ago people applauded the passion of Andrew cogliano for crying in an interview about ending his Ironman streak after being suspended for a dirty hit he laid, and yet you’re going to villify kessel wanting to play every night and earn his contract?! Give your head a shake.

27 May 2018 21:58:40
To Calgary: Phil Kessel

To Pittsburgh: TJ Brodie + Conditional 1st 2019 (If CGY doesn't make 2nd round the pick is a 2020 2nd) + Rights to Adam Fox

Calgary gets their top line RW. Pittsburgh gets their LD that fits their fast play style. They get a first they can flip and a promising d prospect.

27 May 2018 23:30:39
Good stuff

27 May 2018 23:48:26
Pretty interesting trade. Idk the cap Brodie has but I’m sure it would work out just fine with Kessel leaving. Good post.

28 May 2018 03:33:30
Don’t want to lose a Kessel but this trade works positionslly and capwise. Brodie would do well in Pitt.

25 May 2018 23:52:28
The media really hating on kessel.

PIT - Phil Kessel + Carl Hagelin
CGY - Michael Stone + Sam Bennett + Rasmus Andersson + Micheal Ferland

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - P Kessel
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
C Hagelin - M Jankowski - G Hathaway
C Lazar - N Shore - T Brouwer

M Giordano - D Hamilton
T Brodie - T Hamonic
B Kulak - J Valimaki

J Guentzel - S Crosby - P Hornqvist
C Sheary - E Malkin - M Ferland
S Bennett - D Brassard - B Rust
T Kuhnhackl - R Sheahan - D Simon

B Dumoulin - K Letang
O Maatta - J Schultz
R Andersson - M Stone / J Oleksiak

Pittsburgh dumps Kessels and Hagelins contract.

26 May 2018 00:19:28
Pit:
RW - Phil Kessel $6.80

LVK:
RW - Tomas Tatar $5.30
LD - Jon Merrill $1.375

26 May 2018 01:14:37
Garbage for Pittsburgh. Kessel at 6.8M coming off a 92 point season for 2 players that are healthy scratches? Brutal.

26 May 2018 01:50:02
Oh lord lol.

25 May 2018 23:12:01
Pens need to upgrade their defence and hopefully drop some $ without disrupting their core. Sounds easy.
1. Calgary sends TJ Brodie $2million retained.
Pens send Hagelin and Sprong and 2nd round pick.
Risky for Flames as I think Brodie would excel with Letang but Hagelin can still okay bottom 6 and Sprong has top 6 potential. The second rounder is at 53.
2. Calgary trades Giordano at 50% retainedand Ferland
Pens send Sprong, Hagelin, Rust and a second.
The second one would be ideal for the Pens for the next couple seasons but they are a win now team. It also gives the Flames a lot of potential.

Comments or counter proposals.

26 May 2018 00:49:51
Mark Giordano + Sam Bennett + Adam Fox for Phil Kessel + Daniel Sprong + Carl Hagelin

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - P Kessel
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Ferland - M Jankowski - D Sprong
C Hagelin - C Lazar - T Brouwer / G Hathaway

T Brodie - D Hamilton
J Valimaki - T Hamonic
B Kulak - M Stone

Counter offer.

26 May 2018 02:42:36
I’d do the 1st suggestion from Pitt66 as a Flames fan.
I have no interest in Kessel, especially if he cost anything of importance. I’d rather keep Ferland as we need more players like him; heavy players that still have skill and excellent skaters. Sprong would be the key for us and Hagelin would add good depth.

26 May 2018 03:14:37
Probably a pretty fair counter. Would love to have Giordano but would hope to get him without losing Phil.

25 May 2018 15:51:49
Heard that pens are looking for a D and Kessel is the man to go?

How about

Pens: Kessel

Oilers: klefbom , lucic (oilers retain 2m) and 2nd round pic 2018

Lucic would surely waive his ntc for pens?

25 May 2018 17:36:06
So a over PPG Elite sniper who put up Franchise player type numbers for a 3rd dman, A Cap Dump and a 2nd? you're our to lunch.

25 May 2018 17:58:21
Doesn’t Kessel have a nmc ntc.

25 May 2018 18:23:56
no from pens.

25 May 2018 19:59:17
easyy no from pens.

25 May 2018 20:36:51
Lucic for 4 million isn’t all that bad, wouldn’t call that a cap dump.

25 May 2018 21:12:49
Pens traded a first round pick for reaves? Lucic at 4m has more value than that?

25 May 2018 22:50:16
Pens would want Larson or Nurse instead of Klefbom and they won’t touch Lucic as they’d need money to replace kessel. Plus they’d want a first, not a second. Can’t see either team willing or able to make this work.

25 May 2018 23:20:26
It’d abit pushin it he's more of a 3 million dollar player much similar to Leo Komarov.

26 May 2018 00:09:22
For someone who had 10 goals and 34 points last season, that's very much a cap dump.

25 May 2018 23:50:24
Retaining that much on any contract for that length of term is a very bad a idea. For any team.

25 May 2018 03:50:38
2 Pens proposals.
1. Sprong( stuck behind too many vets) for Rasmus Anderson from the Flames. Pens need def and Flames need potential top 6 forwards. Knowing Anderson is NHL ready and a right handed def, the Pens May need to add.
2. Another approach is to free up some cap and get younger and grittier.
Pens trade Sheary and Hagelin and pick number 53 to Flames for Bennet and Lazar. Bennett has the highest ceiling and Pens are freeing up about $4 million so they may need to add.
Thoughts?

25 May 2018 05:33:14
What if it was Rust and Hagelin because he’s a right wing. Pens still get to unload Hagelins 4 million and get some young depth players, one with a decently high ceiling.

25 May 2018 22:52:25
That counter proposal seems pretty close.

24 May 2018 22:13:06
Pittsburgh may want to move on from letang because he’s not as good defensively as they would like and they did manage to win last years cup without him.

Pit: Letang

Van: Tanev

Then, Canucks trade letang to Dallas

Van: Letang

Dal: Spezza, Heiskanen and 2019 first (top 3 protected)

Dallas needs help on the back end and even though letang comes in at 7.25 million, spezza is coming off at 7.5 million so they’ll have the cap space and then letang contract comes off in 2022 which is also when klingbergs contract will need an extension so he’ll most likely get a downgrade in pay and then their 2 best rhd will cost a combined 11.5 million for the next 4 years which is definitely reasonable.

25 May 2018 03:12:19
Tanev is not even close to Letang. Tanev might be the most over rated player in the league. Guy can’t even play a full season but people (mainly Vancouver fans) think he’s a #1 D in the league.

25 May 2018 03:52:59
Letang is still very valuable and a great leader. I think they could do better if they decided to move him.

25 May 2018 03:59:19
Letang will not get you tbat not even close. He is getting older now and has injury history.

12 May 2018 18:11:14
IDK this maybe dumb but the Pens did this with Brassard and it may work here:

OTT acquires FC

ARI acquires Bobby Ryan

Than

OTT acquires Bobby Ryan (35%-50% retained)

Arizona acquires a pick and decent prospect

The Pens did this with Vegas to help them fit under the cap and it could work with the Sens.

Arizona is known to have trouble staying above the salary floor, so they take on money but they do get a pick and prospect (Vegas took a meh prospect and reaves to retain 2.5 mill from brassard)

Ottawa does this so that they can save money but still keep bobby ryan who can be a good top 9 forward if he stays healthy. The extra money they save can be put into out RFAs this year like ceci and stone and for Karlsson and Duchene next year.

Thoughts?

12 May 2018 18:37:34
Why does Ottawa need to do this? They aren't in cap trouble are they?

The reason Pens did it to for in Brassard is because they needed to make room, no?
You're making it seem like Ottawa is in cap trouble, which I don't believe they are. So you're just wanting to do this because you hate he's paid that much and wish it was less, Right? Understandable.

14 May 2018 03:30:32
Ottawa has an internal cap and their owner is cheap so that’s why Ottawa would do it.

14 May 2018 20:03:02
Technically there are in a bit of a pinch salary wise yup. sure they have 11m free now roughly but EK will demand another 4 to 5 million for his raise and stone will get another 3 to 3.5 million with Duchene getting another 2 million leaving them not much room for free agents or future young guys they'll need to give raises to like Chabot white chlapic brown etc. it makes sense but why not just use Arizona the same way they used Vegas as a means of an end to move Ryan? Arizona eats that cap then they flip Ryan at the new salary to replenish picks and prospects and get rid of the total sum of his contract? At new wage I'm sure they'd get something good for him. at 7.5 no but at 35 to 50% taken off I'm sure they would.

 
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