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21 Sep 2017 03:45:10
What would it take for Pittsburgh to get Barzal
He's a pass first guy
Imagine him feeding Kessel the puck on the third line

Maybe Barzal for Pouliot, Sprong, Jarry,1st
NYI can use the pieces to get Duchene
An overpayment from Pittsburgh?

Thoughts?

21 Sep 2017 04:23:09
Pouliot & Sprong would get it done you'd think

21 Sep 2017 05:47:02
Dont think NYI are intrested in trading Barzal at all or else he would of been traded to the Avs in a Duchene trade by now.

21 Sep 2017 14:35:42
If Tavares leaves, he's their only hope at a top line guy right now.

21 Sep 2017 17:10:51
I like Barzal, but I don't like him that much. He fell to them in his draft and has huge upside. And as stated above if Tavares leaves he is what they fall back on.

21 Sep 2017 17:16:02
Ya Isles would have to wait and see what Tavares does before considering anything involving Barzel.

21 Sep 2017 03:28:49
Bozak at 50% to Pittsburgh for Jarry and a 2nd.

21 Sep 2017 04:23:28
What's the point for Toronto

21 Sep 2017 05:34:36
@Leafsfan11 they get a young goalie (almost ready) and a high pick.

21 Sep 2017 07:02:07
But they are trying to contend. I think they'd rather have a good 3 like center other than a pick and a prospect. I think bozak could fetch a 2nd while being retained. A little too much for him

15 Sep 2017 22:45:51
O.Maatta + 2nd for M.Duchene

Down the middle would look like:

Crosby
Malkin
Duchene

Would be a very good upgrade but leaves a hole on D. My guess is that they should trade for an underachieving Sam Bennett. I feel he would be a monster in the Eastern Conference and could develop better on a team like Pittsburgh. But the price would be fairly high considering Calgary is high on him and his potential is high.

What would you guys think about a Sam Bennett or Duchene trade to Pittsburgh and what would the cost be?

16 Sep 2017 01:14:07
#1 don't see anyone wanting Duchene as 3rd centre. Costs too much to acquire and too big of a salary to be 3rd line

#2 it would take more than maatta and a 2nd rounder to get him

#3 if Bennett was asking for 4-5 mill a season based on what he's proven, flames would look to move him. He just signed 1.9 for the next 2 years and still has lots of potential. They would be fools to move him. At 1.9 they will always be able to move him, but if he breaks out this year, think of what a return would be with another year at 1.9 and still RFA status after that. Not the time to move him.

16 Sep 2017 02:06:13
I could see Duch playing wing in Pitts.
Pitts is intersted in Spooner or Sheahan for third line center. Been talkin. To Detroit and Boston the last few days about them two for third line center.

16 Sep 2017 03:36:00
Not enough for Duchene. got to add another good piece and make that 2nd into a 1st at least. Pens 2nd rounder will be very late (56-62 range)

16 Sep 2017 04:01:55
Matta sucks and is very slow, that 2nd is badically a 3rd. it sould take matta 1st plus.

14 Sep 2017 11:02:13
Calgary Pittsburgh
Stajan (20% Retained) for 3rd 2018 + Bjorkqvist

Calgary NYR
B. Kulak + M. Klimchuk + 4th 2018 for R. Nash

14 Sep 2017 16:38:41
Too much cap going to Calgary and Pittsburgh is good up the middle

14 Sep 2017 17:53:16
No Pittsburgh isn't good up the middle (bottom six) . Crosby, Malkin, Rowney, McKegg is their current depth chart. They should definetly make a move before the season starts to get a 3C.

14 Sep 2017 18:45:18
I just read that Holland and Rutherford have spoken this week and that Pens are intersted in Wings Sheahan. Pouliot back to the wings is talked about. Maybe some pieces added to either side. But the Wings are $3M over the cap and need to shed still.

15 Sep 2017 18:10:06
Pittsburgh is great top 2 centres and near the bottom of the league bottom 6. Which is why they say it's a priority to get a 3rd center. Have to see how cap would work but I still feel there's a fit there for Tyler bozak. 1 year left at 4.2 mill, great on the draw, decent offence, can play a checking role and penalty kill too, and has a history of playing well with kessel if they wanted to keep the big three on 3 different lines again for added scoring depth.

14 Sep 2017 05:20:46
PIT: Olli Maatta + 2nd
WPG: Jacob Trouba

Then flip Trouba to Boston

PIT: Jacob Trouba
BOS: David Pastrnak

14 Sep 2017 22:01:39
Both trades lopsided in the pens favour IMO.

07 Sep 2017 01:25:55
John Tavares and Nikolai Kulimen to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for Tyler Johnson, Slater Koekkoek, Cal Foote, Eric Condra, a 2018 1st Round Pick and a 2019 2nd Round Pick.

Tampa Bay gets a 1/ 2 punch down the middle that will be the rival of only Pittsburgh, and could propel Tampa to their second Stanley Cup in Franchise history.
Tavares, Stamkos, Hedman and Kucherov will be unrivalled.

New York gets a replacement centre in Johnson, who is a step down, but it is still possible that he hits 50-60 points. Cal Foote was a first rounder, who could possibly become a solid top 4 dman. Slater Koekkoek could be a good top 6 dman, who could become better as he matures. A 1st is always nice, and getting rid of Kulimen is a plus.

*This trade would only happen at the deadline. Right now, New York holds the leverage, and obviously, Tavares would garner more. However at the deadline, if Tavares obviously doesn't want to stay, its better to get something, than nothing for him. It will be less, but this is still something.

07 Sep 2017 06:33:29
Ya Tampa doesn't touch that without a decent value extension in place. that's an absolute ton to give up. I realize it would take a lot to get Tavares but all that for a half season?

07 Sep 2017 11:29:21
@jbs

Could get you a cup tho. I mean, Tavares is a huge boost over Johnson.

Plus, the big pieces are Foote, a 1st and Johnson. Isn't that kinda similiar to everyone else posting like Galchenyuk/ Juulsen/ 1st? only reason i went with TB instead is because Tavares to TB makes them more of a legitimate cup contender than Tavares to MTL.

07 Sep 2017 12:28:09
Either extension in place and even then it's debatable whether - from a TB point of view - giving up all those assets is worth grading up from TJ to JT OR simply go after him in the off-season without giving up anything.

03 Sep 2017 16:59:41
Nic Dowd to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Derrick Pouliot, Tom Sestito and a 2018 3rd Round Pick.

- Dowd can play third line centre for the Penguins, and may get 35+ points playing on a good team.
- Pouliot can help a depleted dcorps in Los Angeles, and can actively step into a top 4 role.

14 Aug 2017 18:25:58
Pens- 2nd
Wings - Riley Sheahan

Wings clear some cap space and the pens get their 3rd line centre what are your thoughts?

14 Aug 2017 22:04:52
Fair enough.

14 Aug 2017 22:59:34
Sheahan scored 1 goal last year and it came at the end of the season 😂. No way he gets a 2nd.

15 Aug 2017 02:26:48
Sheahan to Pittsburgh makes send and Detroit would be asking for draft picks/ prospects in return.

That being said, I am a Wings fan and Sheahan will not get a 2nd at this time. Maybe if he has a good start to the season then he might push for a late 2nd ( assuming everything works perfectly) .

Otherwise right now his value is maybe a 4th + small add
Or Conditional 4th (Becomes 3rd if re-signs or reaches a certain goal total)

So his value is low and Detroit may move him. Pittsburgh will be a good fit but he won't get a 2nd at this time. However he is still young, so he will get a 3rd, 4th or 5th at lowest.

17 Aug 2017 02:24:28
Pens 2nd is pree much a 3rd anyways, both teams would consider this imo (if pens can afford, which I think they'd be able to. )

08 Aug 2017 15:54:12
Tor: Bjugstad, Demers (retain 500k), 4th if jvr re signs

Fla: JVR, Kapenen, Fehr, Marincin, tor worst 2nd

Why: FLA needs a top winger to round out there top 6, fla already tried to trade demers and they save some cap in the deal, also kapenen gets to play in the nhl regularly since tor has nylander, marner, brown, hyman, marleau, komarov on the wing

Pitts: Bozak, Carrick, 3rd if maatta plays 50 games

Tor: Maatta, 5th if bozak re signs or pens make it to conference finals

Pitts is looking for a third line center and shoots right which is a plus, ufa after this year so no big financial commitment, tor now has great options on d and Bjugstad re place bozak and marleau replaces JVR

Tor will probably have a cap problem when Matthews is a RFA but it will be a lot easier to trade a dmen then a forward, gardiner and hanisey ufa in two years as well cap wise they can probably only keep 4 out of these 5 dmen in two years ( Reilly, demers, gardiner, Zaitsev, Maatta)

09 Aug 2017 11:30:22
First trade is way too much from the leafs. Bjug had a down year, he can be had for cheaper, and Demers ain't anything too speciall. Giving up JVR and Kappy for that is a lot. No thanks.

10 Aug 2017 00:52:02
How do people disagree lmao😂😂

a month ago, people were saying Bjug is garbage and worth merely anything.

04 Aug 2017 04:13:06
Ottawa: Hoffman

Penguins: Justin schultz

04 Aug 2017 09:01:12
No thanks. our LW are already not very deep.

04 Aug 2017 13:07:52
No from Ottawa for reasons as stated above and no from Pittsburgh because Letang is always injured and behind Shultz they have no RHD depth at all.

04 Aug 2017 16:52:20
Schultz has become a really good player since the trade from EDM. can't see Pens giving hims up. and I think both players fit the teama they are in now better. Ottawa doesn't need an offense dman. they have that other character. that does it all.

04 Aug 2017 18:02:13
Sosas dead on. Ottawas forward group lacks the superstar but is a great cast of good players. Hoffman is key to that. on a lot of nights, Hoffman seems to be their best forward, trading him for a guy that doesn't have a chance in hell at ever being the best RD on the Sens kinda feels like a step backwards.

27 Jul 2017 17:59:10
Penguins and ducks trade

Ducks trade -Andrew Cogliano

Penguins trade- 2nd,4th or 3rd

Pens lines
Guentzel Crosby Sprong
Hörnqvist malkin kessel
Hagelin cogliano Sheary
Reaves rust Kühnhackl

Letang Dumoulin
Schultz cole
Hunwick Määttä

Murray
Niemi

28 Jul 2017 17:36:26
Why does Anaheim do this? Do they need a salary dump? Also, doesn't Cogliano play wing for Anaheim?

28 Jul 2017 20:14:46
Trade seems fair but I don't think Anaheim wants to lose Cogliano. He brings durability and many intangibles.

25 Jul 2017 03:08:25
Montreal trades scherbak 2016 first and 2 2017 second round picks

Pittsburgh trades Phil Kessel

Pittsburgh and Toronto made a similar trade not too long ago

25 Jul 2017 12:26:19
But. the 2017 draft already happened.

25 Jul 2017 13:05:40
Montreal already traded away their 2016 first. Ya know, that Sergachev guy?

25 Jul 2017 14:00:03
This might be the least thought through proposal ever lol trading picks from drafts that already happened.

25 Jul 2017 21:14:19
All this mid summer heat must be melting fans brains having some of these silly proposals.

26 Jul 2017 17:06:28
Yes Penguins just won 2 cups with Phil and could be cup favourites again, makes so much sense to trade Phil for futures, right? No from Pens obviously.

27 Jul 2017 01:48:45
Hotguybabes, they aren't futures if they're draft picks you need to go back in time to make, are they?!

29 Jul 2017 03:20:58
I'm habs fan, but noway is this one happen, and frankly I do not wanted it to, It dosen't fix the c1 or dman left 1, now that Markov is no longer a habs, but here one want if Gino convence Markov to sign one year with Penquins, he'd look good with kris letang.

24 Jul 2017 07:53:17
3 team trade

Pittsburgh Järnkrok
Gets 3rd line center on great contract

Nashville Duchene
Gets 2nd line center

Colorado Määtä + Daniel Sprong+ 1st rounder from Nashville
Gets young top dman + prospect and pick.

What do you think?

24 Jul 2017 09:12:24
Pittsburgh loses this so bad.

24 Jul 2017 09:17:45
How on earth does Pittsburgh pay Maatta and sprong and only get back jarnkrok? No way Pittsburgh will do this. and in fact Nashville gets Duchene for only Jarnkrok and probably a late 1st? In this trade Nashville robs Pittsburgh in my opinion.

24 Jul 2017 12:13:47
Must admit that i maybe don't know Sprongs value.
Järnkrok is underrated regarding skill and have a great contract.
Is offensivly talented and would fit great as 3rd line center.
Määtä feels expendable with letang-dumoulin and schultz-cole as top 4.

24 Jul 2017 15:33:59
Preds get a steal, pens get ripped off and avs could do worse, but could definitely do better on duchene too.

24 Jul 2017 18:18:41
If it was a slight upgrade from Nashville I think it would be not bad. Fabbro instead of the 3rd?

25 Jul 2017 01:09:15
Ebs, There was no 3rd from Nashville. They traded jarnkrok and their first (should be late) and got duchene lol. It's bad.

25 Jul 2017 01:36:06
Yeah I misread that. But Jarnkrok, Fabbro and a 1st isn't all that bad is it? Pittsburg could use a good D prospect so it might be enough to make them bite. It's not realistic but that one change makes it a lot closer IMO.

25 Jul 2017 15:00:34
Yeah. It makes it a lot closer.

26 Jul 2017 13:37:28
With the changes to this trade, as proposed by ebs, what isthe purpose of Pittsburgh being involved?
Jarnkrok Fabbro and a 1st should be a package Colorado would be interested in for Duchene.

17 Jul 2017 22:56:51
Pittsburgh trades Phil Kessel to nyr for Rick Nash

Also

Toronto trades Tyler bozak and a 3rd rnd to Minnis Ota for Mathew dumba.

18 Jul 2017 00:20:36
Lol Phil kessel>>>>Rick Nash
Dumba>>>Bozak and 3rd.

18 Jul 2017 00:25:45
What.

18 Jul 2017 02:10:11
Lol. Kessell has more value than Nash straight up right now.
Minnis Ota laughs at you, Says F off. Lol.

18 Jul 2017 03:03:37
Kessel: 23G - 47A - 70PTS 6.8M
Nash: 23G - 15A - 38PTS 7.8M

that is all.

17 Jul 2017 16:40:02
PIT: Matta
WPG: Enstrom, Petan, Dano, De Leo

17 Jul 2017 20:43:53
Waaayyyy too much for Maatta.

14 Jul 2017 19:11:03
Pitts: Bozak, JVR

Fla: Kessel, Pouliot, Marchenko, Fehr, 2nd(pitts), 2nd(tor)

Tor: Bjugstad, Demers

Why:

Pitts gets a third line centre and also right handed, JVR replaces kessel, both UFAs next year so pens not locked in long term, saw a report saying pens think they'll have 2.2 m in cap space after signing dumoulin and sheary, there cap only goes up 1.65 m so that's under 2.2m

Fla: Gets top line winger to play with Huberdeau and barkov, also they already tried to trade demers to give Pysyk and Petrovic, also get draft picks for taking on cap dumps which they have the room for so if in playoff race have picks to move at deadline if not they have more picks in the draft

Tor: needs a dmen and get a younger centre and they don't give up nylander or marner, both guys locked in for 4 years at decent cap hits, JVR would want more than what there making, and toronto frees up cap space

14 Jul 2017 20:32:09
Florida makes out like bandits on this one.

14 Jul 2017 20:32:53
I like the thought of Kessel in Florida alongside Bjugstad and Huberdeau, but there's too many moving pieces in this trade. Plus 3 team trades don't happen often.

13 Jul 2017 18:22:55
PIT: Kessel

EDM: RNH.

13 Jul 2017 19:07:13
Edm should stay away from phil.

13 Jul 2017 19:48:20
Why would Pens want a center to play 3rd line @ 6mill per .?
Maybe Kessel to Kings? . something involving Muzzin? Pittsburgh would be smart to add some D. if they have to move an offensive weapon like Kessel.

13 Jul 2017 22:41:22
Sosahabs, that makes a lot of sense to me. Helps both teams.

14 Jul 2017 00:41:06
Funny how kessel is an offensive weapon now. But in t. o he was fat and no good got to luv it.

14 Jul 2017 00:57:15
@sosa

That makes sense, but i just can't see the kings wanting kessel, brown, gaborik and kopitar eating 27 million in cap long term.

Unless LA can somehow get rid of Brown and/ or Gaborik, i just can't see them taking on another big (potentially dangerous for them) contract.

14 Jul 2017 01:41:02
A deal around Kessel and Nuge is so bad for so many reasons, For both teams.

A deal around Kessel and Muzzin seems like the perfect fit for both teams.

14 Jul 2017 04:59:35
Ya salary is deffinetly an issue., so I agree TSS. I was kinda thinking more of Pens needs. but something along those lines is what I think Pittsburgh should look at if they are going to trade him
And ya. he is an offensive weapon Giller. in Toronto I think they thought he was a franchise player that was going to lead Leafs to cup. he's a good player, but he's not the superstar they hoped for.

14 Jul 2017 13:59:49
Huge no from Pits. Imagine Kessle and McDavid. Two very speedy players.

14 Jul 2017 14:07:28
You hit send before finishing what Edmonton is offering.

15 Jul 2017 06:11:52
Borje with another Oilers hate comment. Broken record.

13 Jul 2017 14:26:04
WPG: Petan
PIT: Pouliot

13 Jul 2017 20:28:55
Not likely but possible only because pouloits stock has plummeted.

13 Jul 2017 04:43:32
Rumour
Sharks: Pavelski
Penguins: Kessel
Apparently there's something going on between malkin and kessel. I can't see this trade going through since I believe Pavelski is the more complete player.

13 Jul 2017 05:28:20
Laughable from the Sharks.

13 Jul 2017 20:31:20
Would take a lot more than kessel to get pavelski. Penguins might be retaining again so phils $8mill could be coming on 3 cheques from 3 different teams.

13 Jul 2017 21:11:41
Also kessel led the Olympics in scoring while playing wing on pavelskis line. IF* sharks have interest in him, I'm sure they are well aware of that connection and that could be part of the plan. Bringing Thornton back and giving burns, pavelski and vlasic long term deals says that's their core and they're riding that for the next few years at least.

14 Jul 2017 14:01:05
It's not Laughable Kessel is younger.

12 Jul 2017 16:17:13
Just read Pittsburgh may be moving Kessel in a "blockbuster" trade!

Any idea(s) as to where and for who?

12 Jul 2017 20:38:27
To Calgary for Sam bennett.

12 Jul 2017 23:40:28
leafs for nylander.

13 Jul 2017 21:19:15
What about to sharks to play with pavelski like in the olympics for timo Meier? Gives pens a good prospect with size and skill who is cheap. Gives sharks a goal scoring winger to replace marleau, similar money to marleau but much younger. Sharks didn't want to give marleau the third year at 6.25 because he was 37. Could get 4 years of kessel at 28 or 29 for 6.5. (8 mill deal which leafs pay 1.5 of) . Or maybe even sweeten the pot to have pens hold another mill or so of it.

14 Jul 2017 13:34:01
Why would Pittsburgh do that?

14 Jul 2017 13:39:41
Sam Bennet.

 
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