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22 Feb 2019 09:36:27
LA:
Martinez

Pittsburgh:
1st in 2019
Marcus Pettersson
3rd in 2020 Conditional if Pittsburgh makes playoffs in 2019

22 Feb 2019 15:58:04
easy no from pens.

20 Feb 2019 20:51:02
Ottawa Senators:

•) Mark Stone


Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) 1st Round Pick 2019

•) 2nd Round Pick 2019 (1st if Resigns)

•) Bryan Rust

•)

20 Feb 2019 21:46:04
I like it a lot!

21 Feb 2019 00:19:54
It’s probably about the right price. I don’t know ow if Pittsburgh s willing to lose such a big chunk of assets for a rental like Stone though. They got Kessel for less.

22 Feb 2019 14:55:03
This is so bad it should go on 1 of those late night shows to be roasted on how bad a proposal it really is lol no way Ottawa gives Pittsburgh one of the games best defensive forwards for a fourth line tough guy, a 2nd rounder, and a 3rd rounder (possible 2if resigned) . Rofl NO WAY AT ALL!

19 Feb 2019 09:22:51
Toronto Trades
Gardiner

Pittsburgh Trades
1st Round Pick 2019

Leafs get a 1st Round Pick to either use in a deadline trade or keep it to get this year's 1st Round Pick back.

Pittsburgh needs a Top 4 Defenceman to make a push for the Playoffs and Gardiner would fit in with there Team.

Thoughts ?

19 Feb 2019 17:30:11
I don't think Pit does this as a pure rental. If they move Kessel out and clear space to re-sign him, I could see this from their end. TOR isn't going to trade Gardiner when they are a favorite for the cup. They need him.

20 Feb 2019 00:12:28
They aren’t the favourite for the cup they need a star RHD.

20 Feb 2019 00:42:46
You don’t need a star RHD if you have a star LHD lol.

20 Feb 2019 01:08:47
Pittsburgh is also a conference rival. If Gardiner does get traded, it will be to a team in the west.

20 Feb 2019 15:15:15
They just don’t have as good as a team as Pittsburgh or Tampa imo. If they added Karlsson they would be better imo.

20 Feb 2019 17:16:28
I think they stack up a lot better against Tampa than they do against Boston.

18 Feb 2019 09:19:20
Toronto Trades
Gardiner

Pittsburgh Trades
1st Round Pick 2019
4th Round Pick 2019 (Sabres Pick)

Thoughts ?

20 Feb 2019 01:10:20
Gardiner seems to be getting more valuable with every post.

18 Feb 2019 09:12:21
Pittsburgh Trades
1st Round Pick 2019
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
Gardiner

Pens get a big push getting a Top 4 Defenceman.
Leafs get both a 1st Round Pick plus Cap Space to add a few more pieces to there Cup run.

Thoughts ?

19 Feb 2019 17:36:04
I'm sorry. but Gardiner is not a top 4 dman.

19 Feb 2019 20:56:06
Gardiner isn't worth a 1st rounder lol.

20 Feb 2019 00:14:29
He’s a 50+ point dman. He’s basically Keith Yandel.

20 Feb 2019 02:40:40
Was just reading a article that saying last 40 games Gardiner has been Toronto's 2nd best defenseman according to advanced stats. Think he just makes some pretty big mistakes that people remember but seems pretty solid other than the brain cramps.

21 Feb 2019 19:59:39
Gardiner has 28 points in 56 games and is a plus 15 #balsam8 yes he is a Top 4 Defenceman with those stats.

21 Feb 2019 21:40:29
Almost any Rental is a 1st Round Pick to start #ThatguyG.
You must be a Leaf hater with that response, Ferland starts with a 1st Round Pick plus and Defencemen are worth more in Deadline Trades.

22 Feb 2019 16:19:25
Who flipping cares already about Gardiner or any other leaf trade for that matter, there's 30 others teams out there that have more interest than a Gardiner trade you leaf fans need to wake up and stop dreaming!

18 Feb 2019 02:05:30
Trade proposal that might still be in talks with Columbus Blue Jackets and Florida Panthers

Columbus gets Forward Mike Hoffman, Forward Derrick Brassard, Goalie James Reimer, and 2019 2nd round draft pick (acquired by Pittsburgh)

Florida gets Goalie Sergei Bobrovsky

Columbus would get a top goal scorer in Mike Hoffman to help them in the playoffs as well as Derrick Brassard in the 3rd of 4th line. 2nd rounder added to take James Reimer.

18 Feb 2019 03:43:50
I like it, florida gets some time with bob to possibly sign extension or at least negotiate and he gets a trial till end of season to see if he likes it type thing.
columbus gets some pieces to help them compete in playoffs. i'd imagine this would be around the right package for bob.
Only concern i'd have is does columbus have cap space for this deal?

18 Feb 2019 04:15:55
That’s a lot coming from Florida, so iffy on that one. Don’t think they are that desperate to get just Bob but oh yes from Columbus.

18 Feb 2019 07:02:42
Don’t see how this even close and I don’t understand the Bobrovsky and Panarin trades to Florida. Why would they trade a 60 point player with term left for a UFA goalie when there 10 points out of a playoff spot?

18 Feb 2019 16:30:06
Between Panarin and Bobrovsky I think Bob’s is the one Columbus really wants to keep.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:44
Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) Olli Maatta

•) Dominik Simon

•) 2nd Round Pick 2019 (if Stone Resigns - 1st Round Pick)


Ottawa Senators:

•) Mark Stone.

14 Feb 2019 22:14:32
Nowhere near enough for Stone. Even as a rental it’s going to cost you a 1st and a good prospect.

14 Feb 2019 22:57:19
I know it’s a bit of an underwhelming return but I like it. Maybe change Simon to Jarry?

15 Feb 2019 01:06:03
I think Ittawa will insist on a 1st regardless.

09 Feb 2019 15:26:30
Trade option 1:

NYR: Namestikov + Vesey

for

COL: Shane Bowers + JT Compher

or

NYR: Namestikov

for

PIT: Hallander

09 Feb 2019 18:13:30
I can see the penguins trade happening, fair deal imo.

09 Feb 2019 23:03:31
Unless I’m missing something, then Bowers is still in Ottawa, so the first trade isn’t going to happen. The second trade could be a possibility if Penguins can afford it. Although Namestnikov does have an extra year on his contract still, so he’s not a true rental. Penguins might pass if they can’t afford to keep him next season. Look for a pending free agent instead.

10 Feb 2019 10:19:16
Bowers was part of the duchene deal, so he is in Colorado's system.

What about Rust and Hallander?

10 Feb 2019 15:25:54
Zamboni, Bowers was traded last year in the Duchene trade to Colorado.

01 Feb 2019 18:09:17
Confirmed

Penguins trade

Brassard
Sheahan
A second rounder and two fourth rounders

Panthers trade

Bjugstad
McCann

01 Feb 2019 18:41:58
And I think florida will flip brassard and sheehan too. Could end up being a good haul for bjustad and McCann.

01 Feb 2019 23:01:29
great pick up for pitts.

01 Feb 2019 18:04:46
PIT: Brassard (UFA), Sheahan (UFA), 2nd, 4th, 4th

FLA: Bjugstad, McCann

Confirmed Trade

31 Jan 2019 01:55:03
Pittsburgh: Phil Kessel, Tanner Pearson

Columbus: Artemi Panarin

Pittsburgh are going to have some issues this summer with the extensions that they've signed and players they have to resign. Bringing in a guy like Panarin who you could possibly resign with the salary that will be sent to Columbus could work really well. They could also just free up the cap space to make an additional add this summer (maybe someone like Duchene or Stone if they don't resign?)

Phil Kessel has had issues with the Pens before and I don't think he'd have Columbus on his no trade list. Tanner Pearson is a cap dump and someone who could fit in well on Columbus' bottom 6 or maybe on the second line. I understand that they are in the same division, but this situation could be way too good for those two GMs to pass up.

I'm curious to see what you guys think. Is it fair value? Too much or too little? Which side?

31 Jan 2019 12:22:13
If Pitt is going to have issues resigning players how does resigning Panarin for the money shipped out in this trade help that? I think it’s an interesting proposal because Columbus will need a legit scoring forward after he’s gone.

29 Jan 2019 22:18:43
Deadline Deals:

SJS Acquire:
Marcus Johansson [4.5 Million x 1 Year]
Ben Lovejoy [2.7 Million x 1 Year]

NJD Acquire:
Melker Karlsson [2.0 Million x 2 Years]
Jacob Middleton [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 2nd Round Draft Pick

[Karlsson and the 2nd get moved for Johansson, Middleton gets swapped for Lovejoy]

--

DET Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]
Tristan Jarry [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
Zach Aston-Reese [0.9 Million x 1 Year]
2019 2nd Round Draft Pick

PIT Acquires:
Gustav Nyquist [4.75 Million x 1 Year]
Jacob De La Rose [0.9 Million x 2 Years]
2020 4th Round Draft Pick

[Nyquist goes for Brassard, Jarry and the 2nd, basically Pittsburgh upgrades mightily on a struggling Brassard - I've seen Pens fans willing to budge on this type of proposal for guys like Kevin Hayes, ZAR goes for JDLR and the 4th].

--
DET Acquires:
Danton Heinen [0.9 Million x 1 Year]

BOS Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]

[Boston upgrades their 3C, they give away the guy with more potential for the guy who can likely make a difference asap]

[Basically, Nyquist, JDLR and 4th for Heinen, ZAR, Jarry and 2nd].

31 Jan 2019 19:19:12
I like this as a wings fan.

28 Jan 2019 15:51:31
A couple possible trade options for the Jets.

OTT: Stone
WPG: Vesalainen, Comrie, 1st Round Pick 2019

PHI: Simmonds
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Petan

CAR: Ferland
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Suess

PIT: Brassard
WPG: Copp, Petan

28 Jan 2019 16:01:17
I like the Ferland deal out of all of those!

28 Jan 2019 16:40:47
The Jets don't need Stone and can't afford his next contract.

The Jets don't need Simmonds or Ferland.

Too much for Brassard. The idea of TDL deals is to add to your depth, not give away two depth pieces to get one.

So, no to all 4.

17 Jan 2019 16:21:16
Jets and Pens make a deal

Pittsburgh sends D. Brassard and O. Maata to Jets in exchange for Tyler Myers and B. Little.

Winnipeg gets that #2 centre they need for playoff push. Contract wise, pretty fair trade.

17 Jan 2019 17:06:21
Interestingly good trade. The only question mark is Brassard, an UFA is not having a good season so is it just a slump or the beginning of a fast decline to the end of a career? The rest of the trade matches up as Myers is a UFA while Little has 5 years left that could become an Albatross in 3 years if he slows down.

18 Jan 2019 00:09:03
No from Winnipeg. The Jets can't afford the downgrade from Little to Brassard when they are contenders. The idea is to add to your roster for a playoff run, not make a trade to downgrade or stay in the same place.

17 Jan 2019 16:16:57
Toronto to trade with both Pittsburgh and Carolina


PIT: 5th rd (149) pk 2019
TOR: Jamie Oleksiak

CAR: Andreas Johnsson and 1st rd pk 2019
TOR: Dougie Hamilton and Curtis McElhinney

Rielly Hamilton
Gardiner Dermott
Hainsey Oleksiak

Both Gardiner and Hainsey will be gone after this season then Nikita Zaitsev and other ??? will fill in the gaps.

17 Jan 2019 17:13:37
Hamilton will command more than that trade offer, let alone throwing in McElhinney. Carolina will want a good roster forward plus as top 4 d-men will receive more in a trade.

10 Jan 2019 08:05:54
Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) Matt Murray

•) Bryan Rust

•) Teddy Blueger


Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) Sergei Bobrovsky

•) 5th Round Pick 2019.

10 Jan 2019 09:19:49
I doubt the jackets trade him within the division unless it's a fantastic deal. This isn't terrible, but does it cross that threshold?

10 Jan 2019 11:34:50
Way too much for Bobrovski. Murray alone is an overpayment for Bob because of age difference and future contract demands of Bob. No deal from Pitts.

10 Jan 2019 20:50:56
agree with boomboom, for once.

28 Dec 2018 21:10:53
Penguins need toughness. They need it to protect their players from Wilson.
They threw away a 1st rd pick for Reeves.

What about this?
Oilers: Lucic (retaining 1 m for this season and then retaining 50% for the remainder of his term)
Penguins: Brassard (5m)

28 Dec 2018 23:01:50
Amount retained must be the same every year.

28 Dec 2018 23:06:27
Then the pens would need a 3rd line center again. So the deal would then be brassard + whatever they give up for 3rd line center for an underachieving lucic. I don't think they to worry too much about Wilson chances are he will be suspended again soon anyway lol.

28 Dec 2018 23:54:00
Unless Crosby can turn him back into a 25 goal power forward menace like he was in Boston. ( which I don't think he can) . why not jus look in the AHL for a tough guy. he will he 6 to 7 hundred thousand . Instead of 6 mill. even with the Oil taking cap. jus, there are better options out there fo a tough guy.

It's sad. cause At one point Lucic was a lot more than a scary physical force. he was a top line guy. I don't failt Chiarelli for the signing. maybe the term. but. at one point the guy was well worth 6M.

29 Dec 2018 01:52:38
Honestly this is terrible Brassard is good and Lucic is beer league journeyman being payed 6 million to let the other team walk around him and score.

29 Dec 2018 01:54:24
Even if you retain, i don't know if you get an asset for Lucic. Brassard is still servicable. Also, i don't think retention works that way, has to be 1mil or 50% throughout the whole term.

29 Dec 2018 03:47:31
That Reaves trade is a bit of a head scratcher. Not sure what Pens we’re thinking on that one. Blues scored Kostin out of the deal. He has real potential that kid. Pens lacking toughness isn’t such a big deal. They have Oleksiak. And enforcers are a dime a dozen. Pittsburgh has a damn good team still. I just hope Leafs can be a team like them in their prime.

30 Dec 2018 00:02:12
Yeah there is a huge difference between olesiak and Reaves. Reaves is the toughest fighter who can skate and put up points. 7 goals 5 assists 12 points. On pace for 14g 10a 24 points. Not bad for a 3rd, 4th line enforcer.

30 Dec 2018 03:57:01
@reswing

And Oleksiak has 4g, 7a for 11 points and is on pace for 8 goals and 22 points. Not bad for a second line defensenan.

Could just be coincidence, but Reaves was traded very shortly after Pens acquired Oleksiak.

31 Dec 2018 22:24:05
And he just got knocked out by Tom Wilson, where Reaves has beat the shot out if Wilson and knocked his but down multiple times. Pens effed up when they traded reaves.

05 Dec 2018 09:53:47
Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) Sergei Bobrovsky

•) 6th Round Pick 2020


Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) Matt Murray

•) Bryan Rust

•) 3rd Round Pick 2020.

28 Nov 2018 20:14:52
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky
Pittsburgh: Matt Murray + Daniel Sprong + 2nd round pick

Too much? Not enough? Who would add and what?

28 Nov 2018 20:27:27
Its not too bad imp, but CBJ/ PIT will never do that. Too much hatred between them.

28 Nov 2018 21:14:38
Where is Pittsburgh going to get the 10.5 million cap space for bobrovsky?

28 Nov 2018 21:47:09
I don’t believe he gets 10.5. 9-9.5 is my guess. Still tough for pens to do with no one making real money going the other way. What about if CBJ trades panarin somewhere else and gets Kessel as a winger replacement in a deal for Bobrovsky? Would atleast be some money leaving Pitts too.

28 Nov 2018 22:23:47
so Unbiased Jim, would you be then suggesting sending kessel back instead of sprong? maybe adding a pick or prospect back to balance the value?

29 Nov 2018 03:02:05
No chance Pittsburgh sending Kessel out. The guy’s been nothing short of outstanding for Pittsburgh, who gets great value for $6.8. That’s got to be one of the best trades for both teams I’ve ever seen.

29 Nov 2018 04:41:07
Pens are trying to milk the last drops out of the Crosby/ Malkin era. Obviously Kessel is a big part of that but if the goaltending isn’t up to par, you have to give to get. Kessel is in the rumours of being traded every offseason. I’m not saying they would do it, but to get a goalie of bobrovskys quality and price tag, a really good piece with a fairly hefty salary has to leave. It’s a logical swap. I don’t think it would happen, but more likely and financially possible than guys that make no money going the other way.

24 Nov 2018 00:51:35
Apparently the Blues are unhappy with Vladimir Taresanko.

Would the blues entertain Senko for Nylander+?

Saint Louis: Taresanko

Pittsburgh: Kessel And 1st 2019

Or

Toronto: Nylander And Gardiner

No way he gets traded withen the conference.

24 Nov 2018 02:20:38
Neither of those offers get Terasenko.

24 Nov 2018 04:49:21
The Blues/ Leafs trade is interesting. Tarasenko only has about half the term left Nylander will have when he re-signs. So Blues get almost 8 years of Nylander, while Leafs get just shy of 5 years Vlad. Tarasenko is the better player, sure, but the difference in contract duration should account for something. Not to mention the near-elite offensive defenseman they receive in Gardiner (can they afford him as well? ) .

Big changes happening in St. Louis. All those big off season moves and Blues still aren’t any better. Trading an u happy Tarasenko (if rumors are true) indicates Blues management have given up on current roster like NYR a year ago, and are moving forward in tearing down the team and re-build.

24 Nov 2018 14:56:56
Blues are happy with tarasenko. This waa pure speculation by writers based on two firing.

Blues are not trading him.

 
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