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06 Dec 2023 03:07:20
Arizona needs another defensemen, they’ve been targeting Hanifin but maybe they could get a cheaper option. The Coyotes hold 13 draft picks in 2024. Edmonton sheds around 3mil in cap and gets a little more freedom to target a needed defensive defensemen.


EDM - Cody Ceci
ARI - 2024 3rd

09 Dec 2023 00:02:48
Rumor has it that Hanifin wants Boston and teams know it. Seems like a Debrincat scenario where flames will get a lesser return due to leverage.

14 Dec 2023 21:27:29
Cody Ceci isn’t returning a trash bag for Taco Bell let alone a 3rd. He’s awful lol what.

09 Nov 2023 19:53:03
Lindholm 50%
Hanifin 50%

Geekie
Guenther
Lamareau
2024 2nd
2025 2nd


Coyotes believing it's time to go for it

10 Nov 2023 04:07:42
Imo they can get a way better return if they retained 50% on both Hanifin and Lindholm if they were to trade them separately.

10 Nov 2023 16:15:58
I don’t think both of those UFAs are worth Guenther alone. He’s looking like a superstar with 7 years of term control.

10 Nov 2023 17:11:45
Coyotes believing its time to go for it? what is "it"? . a new location? some fans? lol.

10 Nov 2023 18:05:43
VB you need to watch more hockey and lose the blinders, how many superstars get cut and end up in the ahl. Casual that equates to 3 first and 2 seconds, pretty good return.

11 Nov 2023 02:33:45
Nashan- Elias Petterson, Mitch Marner, William Nylander, Cale Makar, both Tkachuks, Quinn Hughes, Leon Drais, Etc tons of elite high 1st rd picks take time to make it to the NHL. Guenther will not be moved for any UFA including William Nylander ( leafs fan ) Guenther due to his term control absolutely has more value then Nylander even if it’s a sign and trade.

Some people like Nashan for an example don’t understand that not all 1st round picks have equal value for an example the 1st overall pick last year had far more value then the 32nd pick. 3 1sts from a team like Vegas for those 2 might be fair but a elite top 10 pick has the value of 3 1sts imo.

Guenther 9th overall and Geekie 11th overall will not be traded for 2 UFAs Or probably at all.

12 Nov 2023 00:51:54
I do understand what you mean about first round picks. I can give you many examples where a lower pick turns out better than a higher pick. Take Guenther for instance, I would take Johnston from Dallas on Guenther who cracked a much tougher roster than the Yotes have. Last point. To improve through trade comes at a cost other teams aren’t giving first line and top 4 D away.

13 Nov 2023 18:19:36
Obviously not all 1st round picks pan out I never said that but I am saying Guenther has been drafted recently and his value has not been lowered due to poor play. He absolutely has more value then those UFAs.

13 Nov 2023 21:24:26
For a team making a push for playoffs the ufa’s are more important than project players. Hence why teams give up draft capital and prospects for now improvement. Good convo thou, which I’ve found over some of these trade proposals. ????.

24 Aug 2023 15:56:53
To Toronto Maple Leafs :
LD - Jeremy Lauzon ( 2.00 @ 3 UFA )

To Nashville Predators :
RD - Timothy Liljegren ( 1.40 @ 1 RFA )


To Toronto Maple Leafs :
C - Jack McBain ( 1.59 @ 2 RFA )

To Arizona Coyotes :
RD - Conor Timmins ( 1.10 @ 2 RFA )
LW - Nicholas Robertson ( 796k @ 1 RFA )


Leafs pick up McBain, a decent 4C who registered 304 Hits (4th) and put up 26pts in 82GP. They also acquire Lauzon, a Top 6 D who registered 250 Hits (9th) and put 12pts in 67GP. These moves are basically Schenn and Acciari replacements. Losing Schenn and Acciari will be a huge mistake come playoff time.



Tyler Bertuzzi - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Max Domi - John Tavares - William Nylander
Matthew Knies - David Kampf - Calle Jarnkrok
Sam Lafferty - Jack McBain - Ryan Reaves

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Mark Giordano - John Klingberg
Jeremy Lauzon - Jake McCabe

24 Aug 2023 16:15:00
McBain is good but please tell me why, like again what logic would the leafs trade a RHD when they only have 1 left in their organizational depth chart after this trade.

In the whole leafs organization Lilijgren, Klingberg and Timmons are their only RHD.

24 Aug 2023 17:37:41
Yeah that’s true. Brodie, McCabe and Lauzon play both sides so I thought it made up for it a bit but you’re right.

25 Aug 2023 02:12:49
I'd expect an extra draft pick to come back with Lauzon.

26 Aug 2023 06:39:16
@Hrenklin I think you’re right

03 Jul 2023 00:04:55
3 Way Trade (SJS, EDM & ARI)

To San Jose Sharks :
C/LW - Dylan Holloway ( 925k @ 1 RFA )
1st Round Pick in 2024 - EDM
D - Cody Ceci ( 3.25 @ 2 UFA )
20% of Erik Karlsson’s Salary

To Edmonton Oilers :
D - Erik Karlsson ( 6.90 @ 4 UFA )

To Arizona Coyotes :
2nd Round Pick in 2024 - EDM
Rights to C Skyler Brind’Amour
7th Round Pick in 2024 - SJS
20% of Erik Karlsson’s Salary


San Jose & Arizona both retain 2,300,000 each


Edmonton Oilers’ Defence Pairs :

Darnell Nurse - Erik Karlsson
Mattias Ekholm - Evan Bouchard
Brett Kulak - Philip Broberg

03 Jul 2023 02:29:59
Like the trade for sure. Would make McDavid even more scary with the deep pass. Like the value returned to both as well.

03 Jul 2023 02:32:03
Only issue I see is Edmonton is really week on the wings so another trade or top 6 forward would still be needed. Connor Brown is already weak.

03 Jul 2023 17:06:20
Poor trade for Arizona.

11 Jun 2023 13:41:29
Wild:
T.J. Brodie D

Leafs:
2nd 2024
2nd 2025

Coyotes:
A. Matthews C
N. Robertson RW
W. Nylander LW

Leafs:
1st 2023
1st 2025
L. Cooley RW
C. Keller RW

11 Jun 2023 17:52:37
To be honest, I don't see The Leafs-Coyotes trade even getting you a sniff at Matthews.

11 Jun 2023 20:18:02
I'm not sure you trade a 60 goal scorer, especially one who has plenty of tread left on his tires.

12 Jun 2023 02:18:12
Would a team give anything to take Brodies 5M? Wild don’t have the cap and I don’t think Brodie is a need for them.
Yeah you upgrade an 80 point guy to a 100 point guy but you trade away the future. Nylander would be a one year rental for them so I don’t know why he’d be in the trade.

13 Jun 2023 03:29:32
I think Brodie has value. He’s a reliable dman and that can eat minutes.

13 Jun 2023 16:58:15
- more leaf-friendly trades from the poster who goes by "Les Habitants", pretending to be a Habs fan. Hillarious!

- Brodie isn't worth ONE 2nd, let alone two.

- why would ARI want to take on all that salary for ONE YEAR of Matthews & Nylander, and trade away all those picks and prospects?

Get real. this is laughable. Treliving is a respected hockey man, but he couldn't make this deal with a gun and a mask! : )

13 Jun 2023 17:28:49
Only way you may see Matthews in an Arizona jersey is if it's a sign and trade deal and it's done before July 1st or if he chooses to go there next year. Only reason Arizona does it is to improve revenue right away whether it be through corporate sponsors, ticket sales (all 5000 of em lol), and merch sales. They are running the risk of relocation, but adding the best player to come out of Arizona definitely helps their case. Brodie isn't worth a 2nd alone. Maybe at the deadline if his salary was much lower, but right now it would probably cost the Leafs to unload him.

04 Jun 2023 19:03:53
To Calgary Flames :
3rd Round Pick in 2023 - CAR

To San Jose Sharks :
Daniel Vladar ( 2.20 @ 2 UFA )


To Calgary Flames :
2nd Round Pick in 2024 - PIT
3rd Round Pick in 2023 - NJD

To Pittsburgh Penguins :
Nikita Zadorov ( 3.75 @ 1 UFA )


To Calgary Flames :
3rd Round Pick in 2023 - WSH
7th Round Pick in 2024 - BOS

To Arizona Coyotes :
Adam Ruzicka ( 762k @ 1 RFA )
Dennis Gilbert ( 762k @ 1 UFA )



Just minor trades to clear up cap space and open up potential roster spots for Wolf, Phillips and Stecher.

05 Jun 2023 12:04:30
I think the Zadorov trade is probably an overpayment from pittsburgh. Not sure he's worth a 2nd alone. A 3rd and later pick is probably more reasonable

05 Jun 2023 13:14:43
@matador12 I would’ve agreed with you during his time in Chicago but since coming to Calgary, Zadorov has really turned his game around under Sutter.

11 May 2023 00:38:13
To Toronto Maple Leafs :
RW - Martin Necas ( 3.00 @ 1 RFA )
D - Brett Pesce ( 4.02 @ 1 UFA )
1st Round Pick in 2023

To Carolina Hurricanes :
RW - Mitch Marner ( 10.90 @ 2 UFA )



To Toronto Maple Leafs :
RW - Zack Kassian ( 3.20 @ 1 UFA )

To Arizona Coyotes :
G - Matt Murray ( 4.68 @ 1 UFA )




Matthew Knies - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Ryan O’Reilly - John Tavares - Martin Necas
Michael Bunting - Alex Kerfoot - Calle Jarnkrok
Zach Ashton-Reese - Noel Acciari - Zack Kassian

Morgan Rielly - Brett Pesce
Jake McCabe - TJ Brodie
Mark Giordano - Luke Schenn

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll

13 May 2023 14:19:25
I’d do that as a leaf fan. I don’t think Carolina makes that deal. No reason for them, as they’re doing great while missing a couple big guns.

02 Mar 2023 04:46:07
to Calgary Flames :
2025 7TH RD (ARI)

to Boston Bruins :
F - Milan Lucic ( 2.62 @ 1 UFA )

to Arizona Coyotes :
D - Mike Reilly ( 3.00 @ 2 UFA )
ARI Retains 50% Salary of Milan Lucic
2023 3RD (BOS)
2023 5TH (CGY)


Boston dumps Reilly and picks up Lucic for their playoff run, Arizona grabs some picks and Calgary sheds cap for a potential deadline move.

02 Mar 2023 09:57:20
- BOS looks pretty stacked in all positions. I’m not sure Lucic could crack that lineup.

- CGY will have Lootch off their books next season, which means another 5.25M open on their Cap. I’m sure CGY will put it to good use and be competitive again next season. They have too many good players not to be.

28 Feb 2023 20:57:48
1)
To Coyotes:
2023 1st
Perfetti
Heinola
Lucius

To Wpg:
Chychrun

2)
To Flyers:
Pionk (for cap space)
2023 3rd
2024 3rd
2025 2nd

To Wpg:
JvR.

28 Feb 2023 21:30:56
Extremely unlikely the Jets give up the equivalent of 4 first round picks for another LHD in Chychrun.

They might look at Chychrun, but Perfetti and Lucius probably would not be on the table, so a deal wouldn't work.

Even less likely that the Jets overpay so drastically for JVR. The 3rd in 24 on it's own is more than generous enough for JVR at 50% retained.

28 Feb 2023 22:38:14
Both are a HUGE no from Winnipeg wtf, completely one sided trades.

28 Feb 2023 22:58:03
I think these might be the worst 2 trades I have seen on this site. Winnipeg laughs.

24 Feb 2023 18:04:34
to Arizona Coyotes :
2023 1ST RD PICK (WSH)
C - Connor McMichael ( 863k @ 2 RFA )
2023 1ST RD PICK (BOS)
C - Lars Eller ( 3.50 @ 1 UFA )

to Washington Capitals :
D - Jakob Chychrun ( 4.60 @ 3 UFA )


Washington grabs a top defensemen for next season.


Jakob Chychrun - John Carlson
Martin Fehervary - Nick Jensen
Lucas Johansen - Trevor Van Riemsdyk

15 Feb 2023 00:32:29
Leafs trade Sandin, Robertson, 2023 1st, Hirvonen, Kerfoot, Hollowell, and Voit to Arizona for Crouse, Ritchie and Chykrun. Arizona keeps half cap on Ritchie and Chykrun.

Leafs use SD-A and Abruzzese to have other teams hold half the cap for Crouse and Chykrun.

Leafs get physicality and good cap hits, while the Coyotes get three roster players, one A-level prospect, two B-level prospects and a pick. Sandin was a first round pick, Robertson is considered the equivalent of a late first round pick, and then another late first round pick.

Kerfoot could be turned over for a second or third round pick.

This is what all-in looks like.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Crouse-Taveres-Nylander
Ritchie-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Engvall-Holmberg-ZA-R
Hunt, Steeves or Simmons

Reilly-Brodie
Chyckrun-Lilijgren
Gio-Holl
Benn-Timmins

Samsonov-Murray-Woll

If the Coyotes insist on Knies then Leafs keep Robertson but add Holmberg and Coyotes add Bjugstadt.

15 Feb 2023 15:37:35
Is that you Pinball? What a fantasy trade.

15 Feb 2023 19:00:10
JET: ??.

12 Feb 2023 01:02:25
to Los Angeles Kings :
D - Jakob Chychrun

to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick in 2023
C - Alex Turcotte
C - Francesco Pinelli
D - Sean Durzi


Quick prediction

12 Feb 2023 20:49:42
Too much.

13 Feb 2023 12:21:10
Rumor that clark his center piece of that trade

Clarke-turcotte-1st pick 2023
Petersen as cap dump.

12 Feb 2023 00:59:41
Predictions for Chychrun ( EDM, TOR, BOS, CGY )


to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick in 2023
D - Philip Broberg
RW - Jesse Puljujarvi


to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick in 2023
LW - Matthew Knies
D - Justin Holl

to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick in 2023
RW - Fabian Lysell
D - Matt Grzelcyk

to Arizona Coyotes :
1st Round Pick in 2023
RW - Matt Coronato
LW - Milan Lucic


Can’t wait to see how wrong I am.

12 Feb 2023 02:39:25
According to 32 Thoughts Marek and Friedman, they've been told no to Toronto, Edmonton and likely no to LA, so hmmmm.

12 Feb 2023 13:29:07
Some analysts interesting swings nonetheless Casual?.

02 Feb 2023 15:44:43
Arizona trades Crouse (2mil retained) and Ritchie for Robertson, 2023 or 2024 1st (Leafs choice), Hirovan, Hollowell or Krall and a roster player like Hunt or ZAR. (TO provides list for Coyotes to pick from.

TO gets physical wingers for second line and bottom six. There is no way they include Knies because that is what they need.

Coyotes get potential second line winger and a first round pick plus a A level prospect, a bottom six forward to help with the tank, and B level prospect.

02 Feb 2023 17:25:35
ARI respectfully declines.

- leafs can't fit that deal in cap-wise.
- IF ARI wanted to get rid of Crouse, they wouldn't have to retain 2.15M x 5 seasons to move him.
- IF Crouse was available, he'd bring a better package back than this yard sale.
- Zero chance the leafs want Ritchie after having him on waivers before they sending him to ARI last year with picks.

02 Feb 2023 19:30:51
I don’t like the deal for either side but some of y’all are ridiculous. This is an identical offer to the Horvat deal and Crouse is not Horvat.

02 Feb 2023 20:14:16
Toronto respectfully declines.

03 Feb 2023 15:27:26
No way that Leaf’s want or take Ritchie back. They tried it, he didn’t work there. And IF they’re willing to part ways with a couple prospects and a 1st rounder, it’ll be for someone with a better track record than Crouse.

31 Jan 2023 17:56:30
Leafs need to add some grit and a backup tender as Murray is looking like he's going to LTIR.

Leafs trade

2023 first
Robertson
Niemela
Dryden McKay

Coyotes trade

Crouse
Vejmelka

01 Feb 2023 15:22:17
This is a good trade if Murray stays on LTIR. Otherwise he needs to be moved but I think he has a no trade. To bad Leafs couldn’t come up with enough assets and cap space to add Chykrun? I guess if a third team gets involved in the cap stuff both these are doable but Chykrun would cost Sandin, Hirovan, and another first or Neimela at a minimum. Kerfoot or Engvall would probably have to be involved?

02 Feb 2023 17:32:50
Ya would be nice to find a way to get all 3. They need to make a big splash or will be just another early exit playing tampa or Boston.

26 Jan 2023 14:52:21
Arizona trades Vejmelka, Chykrun, Ritchie, Crouse, and the big young defense man (Brown?) for Edmontons Nurse, Barrie, Puliarvi(??), Campbell, 2023 1st, a prospect, and 2024 1st. This gets the Oilers cap space, fills many of their needs, and settles the Goaltending for them.

The Oilers have to over pay and even this may not be enough? The Coyotes can then peddle Barrie and Puliarvi if they so choose? Not sure if Campbell has a no trade clause?

29 Jan 2023 01:16:11
I actually would like to see the Leafs try this with Murray, Robertson, Hollowell, Kerfoot, Abruzee, 2023 1st, and Neimela or Sandin?

29 Dec 2022 21:27:04
So this is hypothetical, but wondering if this is fair value wise?

Leafs trade

Mathews - sign and trade

Coyotes trade

Bedard (if they win lottery) cooley, chychrun

Thoughts ?

29 Dec 2022 23:10:42
It's not fair for Arizona. They're better off keeping the young cost controlled player and Matthews has no incentive to sign before he becomes a UFA, unless he's staying in Toronto.

If Matthews is intent on going to Arizona, then they just wait and sign him as a UFA. Matthews doesn't do anything for them next year anyways.

29 Dec 2022 23:34:53
I think its an overpayment.

30 Dec 2022 16:09:11
Why trade for Matthews when he's going to sign there as a free agent when his contract is up?

30 Dec 2022 23:03:18
Can get the 8th year with a sign and trade. His NMC kicks in July 1 so would have to happen before then.

31 Dec 2022 00:03:00
Huge overpayment. Bedard could end up being on par or better than Matthews, so why give up Cooley and Chychrun on top of that. Arizona would be better off keeping the younger players.

31 Dec 2022 10:18:29
Bedard will be better than Mathews, and probably be better than McDavid.
Kid might be Gretzky 2.0. I haven't seen a kid with that vision since Gretzky. Although fast, not McDavid fast. just a special player. Hes generational. list will go like this.

Morenz
Richard.
Howe
Hull
Orr
Lafleur
Gretzky
Lemuiex
Bit of a dark period ( maybe Jagr?
Crosby
McDavid
Bedard.

31 Dec 2022 14:58:28
He’s got a lot of flaws that will hopefully get sorted- Poor leader, selfish, doesn’t play defence, not a winner.

04 Dec 2022 05:27:51
to Arizona Coyotes :
G - Cal Peterson ( 5.00 @ 3 UFA )
1ST - Round Pick in 2023 [ LAK ]
C - Alex Turcotte ( 894k @ 2 RFA )
C - Jack Hughes ( unsigned )

to Los Angeles Kings :
LD/RD - Jakob Chychrun ( 4.60 @ 3 UFA )




Kevin Fiala - Anze Kopitar - Viktor Arvidsson
Alex Iafallo - Philip Danault - Arthur Kaliyev
Trevor Moore - Gabriel Vilardi - Adrian Kempe
Carl Grundstrom - Blake Lizotte - Brendan Lemieux

Jakob Chychrun - Drew Doughty
Sean Durzi - Matt Roy
Alex Edler - Sean Walker

05 Dec 2022 12:46:19
Peterson has been trending down for awhile now, and is expected to be put through waivers so that he can get his game back at the NHL level if he isn't claimed, which isn't expected to happen.

If you include him in a trade, you'll need to included a sweetener to dump his contract. He is not an asset, he is a liability.

07 Dec 2022 00:57:25
That might be able to dump Petersens contract. Definitely not getting Chychrun.

04 Dec 2022 05:27:11
to Vancouver Canucks :
LD/RD - Jakob Chychrun ( 4.60 @ 3 UFA )
LW/RW - Jordan Greenway ( 3.00 @ 3 UFA )

to Arizona Coyotes :
1ST Round Pick in 2023 [ VAN ]
1ST Round Pick in 2023 [ MIN ]
RW - Jonathan Lekkerimaki ( unsigned )

to Minnesota Wild :
RW - Brock Boeser ( 6.65 @ 3 UFA )



J Miller - B Horvat - C Garland
A Kuzmenko - E Pettersson - N Hoglander
J Greenway - N Aman - I Mikheyev
T Pearson - C Lazar - V Podkolzin

O Ekman-Larsson - J Chychrun
Q Hughes - T Myers
R Stillman - E Bear


K Kaprizov - J Eriksson Ek - M Zuccarello
R Hartman - M Boldy - B Boeser
B Duhaime - C Dewar - M Foligno
S Steel - F Gaudreau - R Reaves

J Brodin - J Spurgeon
J Middleton - M Dumba
A Goligoski - J Merrill

04 Dec 2022 15:01:00
By the looks of this, the Wild are giving up a 1st and Greenway to get Brock Boeser.
Huge overpayment for Boeser.

05 Dec 2022 12:36:30
how is that an overpayment lol?

05 Dec 2022 12:51:16
- Minny has years of high cap hits associated with their contract buyouts of their 2 former star signings, and isn't in a position to add high-priced players. They'd likely rather have the pick to turn into a cheap player on an ELC.

- ARI will get a better offer for Chychrun

- VCR is headed for another rebuild, and need picks and prospects they can rebuild with.

28 Oct 2022 18:34:25
3 Team Trade

to Toronto Maple Leafs -
G - Semyon Varlamov ( 5.00 @ 1 UFA )

to New York Islanders -
RW - Zack Kassian ( 3.20 @ 2 UFA )
3rd Round Pick in 2024 [ARI]
LW/RW - Wayne Simmonds ( 900k @ 1 UFA )

to Arizona Coyotes -
G - Matt Murray ( 4.68 @ 2 UFA )
2nd Round Pick in 2023 [ TOR ]

30 Oct 2022 19:07:05
The Leafs might wanna inquire about Gibson. However, I don't follow him enough , I know he'd had some struggles the past couple years, I just don't know if that's the result of him, or the poor play of the team in front of him.

Would Leaf fans be into something like that? I also wonder what the cost would be, maybe Nylander? I'm not very good at evaluating talent, why I rarely do trade proposals.

01 Nov 2022 14:18:51
why would the islanders make this trade? they get nothing in return.

02 Nov 2022 14:45:09
Switch Simmonds to a 2nd and I think it’s decent. Might not be enough to make NYI trade Varlamov but if they start falling off they might take it.

 
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