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17 Feb 2018 11:43:27
Sportsnet reporting Blues in serious discussions with Sens for one of either Brassard/Hoffman.Names heading other way include Sobotka, Berglund, Fabbri.
Not sure how this helps Sens. They don't get better or younger, and the only interesting piece is Fabbri who has serious knee issues.

With that in mind, Blues revise offer:

Brassard to StL
Fabbri, Berglund, Kyrou to OTT


Hoffman to StL
Fabbri, Kyrou, Thompson.

Providing Fabbri knee checks out.
That being said, I don't trade Hoffman. He and Duchene starting to gel.

17 Feb 2018 12:38:22
Wow those are terrible for St. Louis. Absolutely awful. Way too much.

17 Feb 2018 12:57:16
St. Louis has stated kyrou is not being traded.

Also that is over valuing your players.

Brassard can fetch a 1st or a 2nd and prospect.

Hoffman a 2nd.

17 Feb 2018 13:18:57
In what world is Hoff worth just a second. he's worth at least a first and B+ prospect.

17 Feb 2018 15:22:32
Yeah hoffman is an elite sniper that can fetch a lot more than a late 1st from st louis. I'd even say a 1st and a good prospect for Hoffman is going to be tough for St Louis to convince Ottawa since he has built a lot of chemistry with duchene.

17 Feb 2018 15:55:16
Your right I undervalued Hoffman. He is a sniper and has speed. I just don't see anyone trading there 1st as this draft is very deep.

17 Feb 2018 16:35:04
Lol. STL isn't trading all 3 of those pieces t
For those guys. Dream on.

17 Feb 2018 09:50:28
OTT: Smith
Bos: spooner

Ott: Ceci/hoffman/Anderson
WPG: Myers 1st 2018 perreault

Ott: pageau/paul

Van: vanek

17 Feb 2018 13:00:56
Horrible for jets. Don't need goaltending
Anderson has had a bad season.

2nd trade doesn't make sense for either team.

16 Feb 2018 15:28:11
As a base :

OTT: Pageau

MTL: Galchenyuk

OTT probs adds . idk how much tho. let me know

16 Feb 2018 22:13:11
No idea why Montreal does that.

16 Feb 2018 21:58:27
Ottawa adds I think a 2nd rd pick.

16 Feb 2018 22:53:21
Cmon man add at least WHite or this is a no effort absurdity proposes by Ottawa.

16 Feb 2018 23:05:55
Why wouldn't they want a young C McJesus? I thought they were looking for exactly that .

17 Feb 2018 00:13:48
Why would they give up one of their “top forwards”.

17 Feb 2018 01:44:55
They want a young centre with top line potential. Pageau is a good player, a 3rd line centre, could be second line on some teams. They would rather a player less established than Pageau, but at least with the possibility and upside to be a top line centre. The galchenyuk for Reinhart one yesterday I found very interesting.

17 Feb 2018 02:59:58
Hahaha no from montreal pageau isn't what we want at least colin white or logan brown added to that.

17 Feb 2018 08:57:28
Ott adds big time. Pageau is older, smaller and has no offensive upside. I don't see why habs would even consider this trade.

17 Feb 2018 16:12:10
Just like to point out that i clearly said "as a base". obviously Ottawa adds .

16 Feb 2018 14:00:52
Read something like this on the web.

EDM - Lucic and 4th round pick 2018
OTT - Bobby Ryan

Ottawa gets 1.25 mill in relief and rid of Bobby Ryan

Edmonton gets someone that could possibly play on McDavids wing


16 Feb 2018 15:31:33
No thanks. doesn't Lucic still have like 5 yrs left at 6m? pretty sure Ryan only has 3 yrs left.

16 Feb 2018 16:06:06
Per yesterday, very interesting trade.

FYI Ryan is signed till 21/ 22 Lucic an extra year.

Edmonton's the one that's tight against the cap so an Ottawa retention of minimum 1.25M is most likely required.

Both players have some sore of NTC as well that could hamper this trade.

I think both teams benefit from this though, so decent trade proposal.

16 Feb 2018 17:37:34
If Ottawa is looking to rebuild Lucic will be a good asset to have and atleast he’ll play, Ryan is literally hurt every couple days and heard Ottawa is done dealing with that. Oilers take a bigger cap and imo more risk but I do like the trade.

16 Feb 2018 17:38:00
Cant see ottawa taking lucic's 6 million dollar cap charge and extra year term if retention is in the discussion tbh.

16 Feb 2018 21:25:15
Ryan has 4 Years, while Lucic has 5 Years. Lucic is 1 million cheaper and more durable.

17 Feb 2018 00:23:29
Oilfan. if retention on the ryan contract is expected, i can't picture any possible way that would work out cheaper for the sens.

16 Feb 2018 05:31:46
Canucks sam gagne del zotto

Ottawa bobby ryan Formenton

16 Feb 2018 05:41:01

16 Feb 2018 15:33:22
No thanks . ill take those two for Ryan alone . really don't like either of Gagne or Delzotto's contracts . plus Formenton is one of our best prospects.

15 Feb 2018 17:54:01
LA fires the first shot in the California trade war..

Ducks Pacoretti

Habs Nick Ritchie, Sam Steele, 2018 2nd

Sharks Nash

NYR Hertl, 2018 1st, 2018 4th.

And to keep pace in the arms race....

Dallas Hoffman

Ottawa 2018 1st, Faksa, Vala

Florida 2018 3rd 2019 4th

Calgary Vrbada

15 Feb 2018 19:32:50
Seems like a lot for Nash.

15 Feb 2018 19:55:20
Lol nash ainy getting that return.

15 Feb 2018 20:29:03
Yes it is, but I think there will be a bidding war for his services pushing up the usual price tag for a UFA rental.

15 Feb 2018 20:37:22
No shot Steele is involved in the deal for ANA. He is their future down the middle.

15 Feb 2018 22:43:54
Wouldn’t hold my breath for that kinda return if I was a Habs fan. I personally think they’d be lucky to get steel straight up for Pacioretty IF ducks even had interest in him. Not s chance ducks give both steel and Richie AND a second. not a chance. GM would be unemployed if he made that trade.

15 Feb 2018 23:11:14
Seems like big overpayments for all the guys. I don't think Flames need Vrbata.

14 Feb 2018 17:01:14
What about this trade in the summer?
Oilers: Lucic (5years x 6m)
Send: Ryan (4 Years x 7m)
Lucic is more durable and physical, but Ryan if healthy could fit well on McDavid’s wing. That way too, Oilers could bring back maroon. There is no room for both maroon and Lucic on the oilers. Maroon will be cheaper and could play with McDavid. Sens save a 1 m. Sens seem like they want to save as much money as possible to resign karlson and save money for the owner.

14 Feb 2018 17:26:51
Actually pretty interesting. Not sure on all the NTC/ NMC and stuff. Also not sure on Senators use or want for lucic but if they’re blowing it up and going really young he could be good for leadership and protection while a new core Linda takes over.

Ryan isn’t a fast player to keep up with mcdavid on the rush for sure, but once mcdavid gets the zone and the skill takes over from speed, Ryan is definitely skilled enough.

Haven’t seen a Ryan or lucic deal that made much sense before, so good post for sure.

14 Feb 2018 17:28:38
Not a horrible suggestion, but it's Edmonton that's skirting the cap, so Ottawa retention would be needed to make the deal work.

The big hurdle would be both players have some kind of NTC and Lucic has a buyout proof contract that could hinder Ottawa's decision to attain his services.

14 Feb 2018 18:05:27
Umm let's be real now no ottawa doesn't because he has a year less.

14 Feb 2018 18:38:15
Horrible trade.

14 Feb 2018 19:29:08
Horrible for what team? And why?

14 Feb 2018 23:15:23
That would be lit.

14 Feb 2018 23:16:26
And this isn’t horrible by all means.

15 Feb 2018 15:42:46
for Ottawa. Lucic will leave after this year because he wants to end his career in the west. SO Ottawa would lose Ryan for nothing. It's not always about the $.

15 Feb 2018 16:46:05
I'd want Lucic to defend my team instead . lol.

15 Feb 2018 17:02:14
IMO, wouldn't you want someone who will stay on with the organization. I know one of the Sens goals is to offload some big salaries but I think this is a bit different.

15 Feb 2018 20:28:11
With ryans contract going up to 7.5 in the last 4 years, 30 million still remains
Lucic 5 years left goes down. 7,6,4,5,4 i believe leaving 26 million left on his deal and an extra year
Tbh with melnyk giving dorion the okay to cut salary wherever he can, i see this as something the senators would have to consider at this point.

15 Feb 2018 20:46:23
Hawks25, if this is true then i agree with you 100%. Where are you hearing this? The lucic demands?

16 Feb 2018 17:57:10
Not sure. I thought I heard a commentator mention that when he was traded to EDM. I could be wrong though. I don't hate Lucic except for playing against him . what a beast. You guys could be right. Maybe I would hate Ottawa lose both if this would happen. That's what I meant originally. Thanks for your opinions.

17 Feb 2018 09:40:06
Boro. lucic. macormick. harpur. that would be an intimidating team to play against.

I also see lucic benefiting from bouchers systen. i like this trade.

14 Feb 2018 10:39:11

Calgary Flames acquire -
(RW) Sam Reinhart

Buffalo Sabres acquire -
(C) Sam Bennett
(2018) 3rd Round Pick


Calgary Flames acquire -
(LW) Mike Hoffman

Ottawa Senators acquire -
(LD) Rasmus Andersson
(C) Adam Ruzicka
(2019) 2nd Round Pick

Projected Lineup

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Ferland
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Hoffman - M Jankowski - S Reinhart
R Lomberg - C Lazar - G Hathaway

M Giordano - D Hamilton
T Brodie - T Hamonic
B Kulak - M Stone

Deadline Plans: Dump Brouwer + Prospect/Pick, Matt Stajan (Retained) to Contender.

14 Feb 2018 11:11:37
First of all you don't acquire F
Hoffman to play third line. Second of all that return won't come clost to get him. Anderson I imagine Ottawa would want. But the pick has to be a first imo. Third of all Bennett is a bust while Reinhart is not even tho some players picked behind him have putstated him. Still worth a 3 times more the Benett who let's admit really sucks. Overall terrible post.

14 Feb 2018 11:22:27
No from BUF and OTT.

14 Feb 2018 16:24:37
Trade 1 is close, think a little more from Calgary is needed though to make this one a go.

2nd trade is not even in the ballpark to get Hoffman's services.

14 Feb 2018 23:00:37
Are we quick to write off a 21 year old. Bennett is not a bust yet.

15 Feb 2018 05:24:16
@DonCherry. I always think the same thing. Ppl on here call any first round pick that isn’t scoring 20goals by 20 years old a bust. Unless of course they play for their own favourite team, then they’re trying to trade 23 year olds, calling them ‘practically a 1st rounder’ because he was picked 15th 5 drafts ago haha

I wouldn’t say Bennett is for sure a bust yet, but I would think he has shown a little more than Reinhart that his ceiling may be lower offensively than originally expected, so I would want an add for sure if I’m buffalo.

Bennett to me kind of reminds me of Kadri. He was a top pick, expected to be an offensive star and had tons of skill and a bit of a mean streak at times. but was also at times nearly written off in Toronto. Rather than a change of scenery, he got a fresh voice in Babcock who convinced him to change his game but it took till he was 25. Now he’s playing the best defensively he’s ever played and ironically putting up great offensive numbers too. Bennett has lots of time to become a really good NHLer, just needs patience and the right voices.

14 Feb 2018 10:31:43
So if Brassard is being shipped, and Pittsburgh a likely destination

OTT: Brassard, Condon
PIT: Jarry, 2nd 2018, Hagelin,2nd 2019

Sens address goaltending issue, send Condon back, get additional second for taking the Hagelin contract.

14 Feb 2018 13:40:42
I like this one, not bad. PIT might need to add a little though if they want to dump Hagelin's contract.

14 Feb 2018 18:43:17
I can see this without the 2018 2nd though.

13 Feb 2018 11:23:09
Rumor that LA is interested in Phaneuf from Ottawa but don't want the salary. I think that Ottawa would trade Phaneuf for Gaborik+. I add the plus because phaneuf is still a decent dman that you can slot as a #4 guy or maybe a #3 guy.

13 Feb 2018 16:06:09
Not bad. Obviously depends what the +is. Also gaboriks cap hit is only like 4.75 or something I thought. Phaneuf is 7, can kings absorb the extra?

I do remember the kings were one of the teams that the leafs had talked to about phaneuf before he went to Ottawa. I think the Dion/ sutter connection was talked about from Calgary days back then.

14 Feb 2018 04:41:33
Well pretty close lol sens retained 1.75 to even it out.

12 Feb 2018 15:18:17
Read this article from sportscastor (pierre lebrun):
Ott: Derrick Brassard

Asking price: 2018 1st/ prospect and a 3rd piece

Can anyone come up with a trade for that?

12 Feb 2018 16:34:14
OTT: Brassard
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2018, Petan, Lipon.

12 Feb 2018 18:06:43
he is not worth that. All these GMS are coming out with ridiculous asking prices for there players. This is a Buyers market their is more supply than demand. I assume due to the deep draft this year. Every team bubble or out is willing to try and get as many 1st round picks as possible. I just don't think any of these pending UFAs will get what they are asking and for the 1.3 years players that want 3-4 pieces i think those fans and Gms will be disappointed as well.

12 Feb 2018 19:47:13
I don't get the hype over Brassard yaya. On Habs he'd be the first line Center. lol. However, i'd say a second and a B+ prospect. he's a second line Center and A middle of the pack 2nd liner.

13 Feb 2018 11:22:38
The thing is that many playoff teams need that middle 6 center and other than Brassard, there are not many centers on trading block. I think Pittsburgh will be the biggest player on Brassard because the need a high end 3rd line center.

14 Feb 2018 10:34:42
Duchene wasn't worth his asking price either let alone what he got them so get over it.

14 Feb 2018 17:14:50
The asking price is a little too high. 2018 1st and 2nd good enough. I know it's hard for Habs fans to think teams wanting or needing Sens players rather than Habs players.

14 Feb 2018 17:26:29
You get over it.

12 Feb 2018 13:31:13
OTT: Hoffman
Columbus: Milano, Gabe Carlsson

OTT: Ceci
TB: Gourde, 2nd

OTT: Phaneuf @ 50%, Smith, 1st
LA: Ladue, Vilardi, 1st

OTT: Thompson
ANA: 4th

OTT: Oduja
TOR: 4th

Ryan Duchene Stone
Dzingel Brassard Domenico
Pyatt Pageau Milano
Gourde White Paajarvi

Karlsson Chabot
Ladue Wideman
Carlsson Boro

Claesson, Harpur depth
Chlapik, Vilardi on way

Vast improvement in bottom six.

12 Feb 2018 16:34:16
Gourde has 20 goals this year. Every line he plays on scores. I wouldn't trade him for Ceci let alone with a secons but that's because i don't think Ceci is good at all. Gourde would not be on the 4th line on a team like that.

12 Feb 2018 18:56:24
Phaneuf doesn’t get you Vilardi alone lmao.

13 Feb 2018 04:36:51
would the 1st rounds in the la trade not cancel eachother out, if not ottawas be worth more?

13 Feb 2018 05:33:47
Pkane, ottawas pick will likely be top 5 or 6. los angeles pick likely 24-31 somewhere in there. that would be an immediate deal breaker for the sens imo.

13 Feb 2018 08:59:45
Haven't the Sens already traded their 1st for Duchene?

13 Feb 2018 09:33:19
Haha nice try with the Gourde trade. Not even straight up.

13 Feb 2018 16:13:51
Toronto doesn't want oduja he's to slow. Maybe 4 yeara ago.

13 Feb 2018 21:11:38
Rednick, its top 10 protected. but still, i don't think ottawa is in any place to be flaunting that pick around in trade proposals.

14 Feb 2018 10:38:37
Last 2 yes
First 3 no

Phaneuf 1 is a joke for ottawa. firstly Phaneuf will be gone but without retention.
Secondly ottawa will not trade their pick.

14 Feb 2018 17:28:19
Newsflash ram! Phaneuf was traded last night! We retained 25%.

16 Feb 2018 21:34:11
Yeah we did but that's because Dorian has no idea what he's doing. any other gm could get that deal done without retention. Dorian is a fool.

11 Feb 2018 21:12:26
Canucks demko hutton 2 rd pick

Ottawa chabot

11 Feb 2018 23:25:49
U crazy?

11 Feb 2018 23:26:57
Counter with brassard, dzingle, 3rd for Brock Boeser no than stop tarding rubbish pieces for young great assets jeez.

11 Feb 2018 23:35:01
Why does Vancouver add?
They’re not desperate for a dman cause they got Juolevi in the system but Ottawa is desperate cause they have noone in the system.

12 Feb 2018 01:44:24
Holy christ this is awful for ottawa, the 2nd round pick is the only piece with any real value coming from vancouver.

12 Feb 2018 00:22:45
Craig anderson 36 and demko the number 1 goalie prospect in the league ottawa doesn't have any goalie prospects it pretty even. cause they have there future for offince hovat brock petterson lind dahlen they need to get more the 1 de prospect Juolevi chabot then they draft a right handed dman there's the future back end then they sign a avg goalie in the free market they make the playoff and next 1 or 2 year.

12 Feb 2018 03:42:58
Delusional, if demko's such a great prospect keep him. please stop offering him to the sens over and over again.

12 Feb 2018 06:34:58
Do some research cause when you assuming things you make an ass out of you and me.

12 Feb 2018 12:47:25
Lol Brock you don't need Facelift to make yourself look like any human body parts.

12 Feb 2018 13:23:38
If I'm the canucks, I don't do the trade. Sure having a blue-chip prospect in Chabot is nice but, Demko's their future in between the pipes and without him, their goalie prospect pool is pretty dry.

12 Feb 2018 13:06:50
Benning can’t even properly hang up the phone because he’s laughing so hard at this.

13 Feb 2018 16:30:45
Interesting that demko is top goalie prospect considering picard and sparks are 1-3 in all meaningful categories in the ahl but yeah your canucks prospect is consensus #1.

14 Feb 2018 00:50:15
lol. too funny Brock.

14 Feb 2018 15:24:32
Louie Erricson for a sack of pucks.

14 Feb 2018 17:31:16
Loui erikksson for my ball sack.

11 Feb 2018 03:46:02
Ott: Karlsson
Phoenix: Domi, 1st 2018, 1st 2019.

11 Feb 2018 03:52:59
Ottawa want more.

11 Feb 2018 04:54:19
SEAy more.

11 Feb 2018 06:02:05
If Karlsson isn't signed come the deadline, then yes, if he is, double that offer.

11 Feb 2018 09:12:14
That pick could be Dahlin. I think For the state Phoenix is in they would rather Dahlin than Karlsson probably. 10 year age gap. They aren't Karlsson away from winning. Need dahlin, another few young pieces and more time. Lol.

11 Feb 2018 14:53:03
I agree with yup. Quite a few trades on here have arizona giving picks for players. Don’t see how that makes sense, especially with that 1st this year.

11 Feb 2018 16:51:41
Ott: EK65, White, Ceci, Brassard
ARI: Ekman-Larson, Domi, 2018 1st.

11 Feb 2018 18:09:47
Mustafarr, the soonest possible date that ottawa can offer an extension to karlsson is july 1. Getting an extension "by the deadline" isn't possible.

11 Feb 2018 18:10:19
Unless you mean deadline 2019.

10 Feb 2018 19:19:29
Toronto: Nylander + Liljegren + Kapanen + 1st

Ottawa: Karlsson

Value wise would those teams make it?
Realistically not going to happen. Just a post.
Ottawa will never win the trade ever, so trying to minimize the loss.

10 Feb 2018 20:00:02
Depends on if Toronto had an extension in place. If they don't that's quite a bit of quality for 1 1/2 years even if it is karlsson

Values there but it'd never happen between division rivals.

10 Feb 2018 20:00:31
I think Ottawa Wins that trade by a landslide. Marks on is good but Lilijegreen and a first and Kappy good. Not Nylander +++ Lilijegreen and happy good. Lol.

10 Feb 2018 20:01:08
Not a chance from Toronto.

10 Feb 2018 20:18:01
I'd say for a season and a half of Karlson, sens make out like bandits. If that’s the price leafs have to pay for a guarantee 1.5 years of Karlson they should walk away. Rebuilding takes more than 2-3 years, leafs need to hang on to their assets.

10 Feb 2018 20:18:57
I don’t know what Ottawa would want in return but that’s basically 4 first rounders. I definitely would not like the deal from a Toronto perspective.

10 Feb 2018 20:51:31
How would trading karlsson to your divisional rival minimize the loss? What a joke.

10 Feb 2018 21:41:32
Ottwawa loses one of the best D in the game but they’d take that for sure IMO.

10 Feb 2018 21:50:50
I think it's to much for Karlsson.

10 Feb 2018 22:48:08
Am Not enough for karlsson.

10 Feb 2018 22:54:56
Toronto should do it because they are giving up only 1 roster player and they have depth to cover Nylander and they get the best defensemen in the game.

10 Feb 2018 23:26:57
Oops oh no this is guaranteed extension also.

10 Feb 2018 23:28:45
Imo, its too much from EK. Cause Nylanders basically a 50-60 point guy with potential of 70, and he's dual C/ W, Liljegren is the best prospect Toronto has, Kapanen, in limited minutes has looked solid, and a 1st is a 1st. Honestly, this trade may hurt Toronto more than it helps in the long run, even if EK is resigned. Its just too much imo.

10 Feb 2018 23:30:28
And ya obvs said it wouldn’t happen haha just value wise.

10 Feb 2018 23:37:36
Karllson is a stud dman but if Toronto does this I think it will come back to burn them. And extending him would cost alot.

11 Feb 2018 04:49:33
Massive Karlsson fan but I would hope leafs wouldn’t pay that for him. I know he makes any team instantly better, but I feel like drew doughty makes the leafs better than Karlsson does. He just addresses more of the areas our game is soft. Unbelievable talent for both of them, but long term, I don’t think Karlsson helps us as much as all those pieces do, and when it’s going to come with an 8 year extension, have to think long term.

11 Feb 2018 12:15:09
Leafs are 2nd in dman points. They need a solid stay home dman.

11 Feb 2018 14:03:43
Not part of the Shanaplan.
So a big NO for that dumb trade proposal.

11 Feb 2018 14:04:26
Replace kapanen and liljegren with marner and add Phaneuf and lupul to each end then we have something to look at as a starting point, leafs might still have to add based on what Colorado got for Duchene and the fact that karlsson is not only a defenceman but that has a much better player than Duchene is thus he's worth more.

Marner, nylander, lupul, and their late 1st

Karlsson, Phaneuf

Toronto unloads lupul and brings back Phaneuf via karlsson. But is now in a position where Phaneuf can be used properly, in doing so they add the best defenceman in the last decade.

Ottawa uses EKs value to unload Phaneufs contract by adding one that expires sooner same way Toronto did in original deal but also adds 2 solid top six forwards and a late 1st in a weak draft class. with the addition of the 2 fowards they will have some flexibility up front and can afford to move brassard, Ryan, and Smith for other pieces like maybe draft picks, prospects, or replacement dman. example Ryan to rangers for shattenkirk. bad contract for bad contract but both players would fit better with the other team. also brassard to pitsberg or Columbus for a 1st both have been rumored this year. and smith to calgary for two years of 3rds also been rumored.

Hoffman Duchene stone
Marner white nylander
Formenton brown Dzingle
Batherson pageau pyatt

Chabot shattenkirk
Claeson Ceci
Harpur/ borowieski wideman

Ottawa's speed would be upped tremendously while Toronto fixes their biggest issue which is their blue line by adding the crazy 1 2 punch of Matthews karlsson with Phaneuf net front presence.

11 Feb 2018 14:07:16
Karsson way better than the sum of those parts.

11 Feb 2018 15:33:06
@no bias, leafs are not taking phaneufs contract back lol the fact that the sens took that without leafs retaining anything in the first place is still talked about as one of the greatest heists. We had to retain on kessel who is a far better player. Your GM took the full salary for the lesser player, that’s on him. No trade backsies lol.

11 Feb 2018 16:54:32
Dorion is not stupid enough to trade an impact player like that to a team within the same division.

11 Feb 2018 18:39:32
Why would the leafs feel obligated to unload the lupul contract? Its not costing them a dime.

11 Feb 2018 19:19:40
Nylander and Marner for EK and Dion Phaneuf? No bias my a** lmao.

11 Feb 2018 21:53:31
And saying Dorion isn’t dumb enough to trade a star within the division? but he took a contract that was killing a division rival without having them retain salary, never got a good prospect or pick that was an incentive and in fact gave the best prospect (Tobias Lindberg) and the only pick (2nd rounder) in the deal. He’s the only guy I can think of that did that too, so who knows? lol.

12 Feb 2018 19:24:12
Jim you need to do your homework better. it was murray not Dorian who acquired Phaneuf.

And I've said it before I'll continue to say it again unroll it sinks in. contracts, good or bad, do not make or break a deal as there are many ways around bad contracts.

1 way is retention, another is by packaging a bad contract with a desired piece (in this case a generational talent known as Erik karlsson), another way is by taking back another bad contract with less term (Like lupul in this case)

I guarantee Phaneuf gets traded again before his contract expires an most likely before the start of next season. there has been interest stemming from the kings in acquiring him for a playoff run from what I've been hearing.

Also note that an asking prices has been set on one Derrick brassard as well that proves I far from over value the sens players as I've said all along is be content with a mid 1st for Brassard who Dorian has set an asking price of a 1st, a top prospect, and a third unidentified piece for. clearly I undervalued him just not as much as the rest of you have.

Thank sakic for the ridiculous over values of certain players now days.

Think of it this way. if brassard demands that big of a return karlsson probably demands a lot more than I previously stated as well seeing as how he's 10 × the player brassard is, he plays a more important role and position, and he can single handedly change the game when he's healthy, went through summer training camp, and is not recovering from surgury.

Ryan may be tougher to move than Phaneuf due to his plastic fingers but even he could find the right suiter if they tried to.

10 Feb 2018 17:29:14
It's no secret the goaltending on Long island is a disgrace. What about making a move for Craig Anderson? His #'s are down this year but he is a much better goalie than Halak IMO. Anderson might just need a fresh start on a team battling for a playoff spot. Halak is a UFA so Ottawa can let him walk and address their goaltending in the off season. Also, Tavares has said he wants to see management doing everything they can to put together a winning team.

Anderson for Halak plus a 2nd or 3rd?

10 Feb 2018 19:10:31
I think that’s interesting but I’d think Ottawa would want a better return since they will be entering their full rebuild. But I also don’t know how much they value Anderson. But good post.

10 Feb 2018 21:09:02
Andys turning 37 in may, he's been a great goalie for a long time. it all comes down to how much gas he has left in the tank, personally I've been expecting this drop off for a season or two now because of his rising age. Wish ottawa did something with they're goaltending in the off season last year when all the fleurys and bishops were on the move, even all the jonathan berniers, mike smiths and brian elliotts. Too bad the sens couldn't have got in on that goalie carousel.

11 Feb 2018 00:44:14
Interesting . However. Sens Just offered him an extention so i don't think they're planning on trading him. Also i wouldn't love taking back back Halak if we're only getting a 2nd. but Andy would definitly help NYI.

11 Feb 2018 03:01:41
Thanks for the responses. I think Anderson has enough left in the tank to make a playoff run and he has 1 more year left I believe. I understand Hoff but Halak is a UFA so they don’t have to keep him. Maybe Halak and a 1st would be more appropriate? I didn’t look to see other UFA goalies this year but the money they save on Anderson could get a good goalie as well, plus the pick for a rebuild.

11 Feb 2018 14:05:47
Ottawa wouldn't want halak.

Maybe replace halak with Michael dal Cole. sure he looks like a bust now but maybe he just needs a change of scenery and ottawa might do it for him. i'd sooner take my chances on him than halak.

09 Feb 2018 19:29:36
Ottawa- dion phaneuf, nick paul
Calgary- troy brouwer.

09 Feb 2018 22:08:43
Don’t think nick Paul is the type of prospect teams will be Looking for to dump phaneuf a contract and don’t think flames want anymore money on that blue line.

09 Feb 2018 19:28:41
Ottawa- bobby ryan, nick paul
Calgary- troy brouwer, matt stajan, hunter shinkaruk, 2nd.

11 Feb 2018 14:06:41
Take out stajan and Brower and add a 3rd for 3 years and it's a deal but that 2nd is not possible either as they don't have it unless you mean next year's 2nd in which case I say 2 3rds instead of 3.

08 Feb 2018 23:41:59
Ott: Jeff skinner
Car:Zach smith
Mike condon

Ottawa needs left wingers and someone who can put the puck in the net

Carolina needs goaltending help bad

It’s prerty good cap wise also.

09 Feb 2018 00:55:06
Just no. how. Just how does this make any sense.

09 Feb 2018 01:22:59
jeff skinner > zach smith
condon > 4th (could prob get at least a 3rd)

if ottawa got this offer they should take this and run.

09 Feb 2018 01:30:21
jeeeeeeezzz. Yes please lol.

09 Feb 2018 01:51:23
So a 25 YO top line winger for a backup goalie and bottoms 6 player?

09 Feb 2018 03:06:22
Lol absolutely terrible for Carolina. Skinner scored 37 goals last year and is still only like 25 or 26. For a bottom 6 forward making too much money and a back up goalie.

09 Feb 2018 03:33:47
On what planet would Carolina accept that.

09 Feb 2018 11:26:12
Ottawa says heck yeah no trade backs lol.

09 Feb 2018 11:28:03
Smith doesn't make too much money. he's a very versatile player who can play any situation he's needed to however it would definitely take a lot more than him and Condon to land a player like Skinner.

09 Feb 2018 17:26:16
Smith has 3 years and 9.75 million left on his deal, condon is not worth a 3rd or even a 4th. I understand carolina needs goaltending desperately, but this trade does not rectify that situation one bit.

09 Feb 2018 19:55:53
Condon is a capable backup who has shown he can play extended time when needed. But he is no more ready to be a starter than darling was last year and we have seen how that’s worked so far. And I’m not hating on smith saying he makes too much, but for what he does, you can get guys as good and younger to do his job far cheaper than 3.25 for 3 more years.

09 Feb 2018 23:43:09
I like it.

08 Feb 2018 17:04:46
DAL: Hoffman
OTT: Gurianov, Dickinson, 1st Round.

09 Feb 2018 11:27:55
Ottawa say no way.

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