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18 Oct 2019 22:30:37
" To Leafs
B. Tkachuk- Adds goal scoring and grit.

Sens-
W. Nylander-skilled centre or winger
Kerfoot-speedy centre
N. Robertson- Leaf prospect averaging 2pts a game with the Peterborough Petes in OHL
2nd rd pick 2021"

This is a copy and paste from HF Boards with Senators fans saying they'd take it and run with all other fans saying leafs lose. I feel like you guys will have a much different take.

18 Oct 2019 22:44:13
Wow. Them handful of Sens fans on that site are just as dumb as their owner.

18 Oct 2019 23:30:59
Yikes, that’s a fat no from Ott.

19 Oct 2019 05:42:02
Sens take on 10 mil more in cap seems highly unlikely especially for them.

19 Oct 2019 06:35:11
No from Sens

19 Oct 2019 12:10:03
Sens laugh and hangup right away.

19 Oct 2019 12:10:24
Either this site has heavy bias against the leafs or there is Differentiations of hockey knowledge between the two sites. While HF boards may have a higher concentration of leafs fans the Ottawa fans still like it. I think people should look at this form posted on HF Boards I feel as if many people here have been Brainwashed into Believing Nylander isn’t a great hockey player. I for 1 believe Ottawa takes this and runs but as said Melynk does not take the 10 million it can be argued Nylander is currently the better player then Tkachuk ( we all know this site’s opinion as an whole ) Kerfoot a young 3C, A solid prospect and a pick.

19 Oct 2019 13:42:12
I looked up that trade on there and it seems to me most sens fans didn't like the trade but to be fair I only read a few pages of the replies.

19 Oct 2019 13:57:13
I don't think either team takes this kind of deal. Sens would add a lot to their cap and are in a full rebuild. Tkachuk may command 7-8 million in summer 2021 but that's not until the conclusion of next year. By then kerfoot would only have a year left and nylander only 2.tkachuk would have 5 years of control plus whatever extra years of ufa ottawa signs him to in his next contract. ottawa passes

Toronto while taveras is hurt would be left with only 1 top 3 center. Even when he comes back this deal still makes leafs worst right now . which right now is the goal not in a few years. Yes the cap savings is great butwhats the point of icing a cap savings team. Unless toronto replaces kerfoot right now than this leaves the leafs weak up the middle. i'd also hate losing robertson. he'd be
Reády when johnsson is an ufa. toronto passes

Not a bad thinker of a deal.

19 Oct 2019 20:03:42
Lol what? How are people saying this is bad for the Sens? The bias against the leafs in this website is going way to far. Hear the leafs are trading an elite winger, a 3C who can jump into a top 6 role, a future top 6 forward, and a 2nd for an elite winger.

Nylander straight up is fair. Lay I checked Tkachuk has yet to hit 50 points while Nylander has hit 60 twice.

19 Oct 2019 20:46:11
Robertson is a defenceman no? Lighting up the OHL. We’re ypu referring to another prospect named Robertson?

19 Oct 2019 21:20:25
Isn't nylander on pace for 50 points? It's not like he's tearing up the ice or anything. Not saying he won't get there but ill hold off on the elite talk for awhile yet.

19 Oct 2019 22:22:11
I’m still hoping for vbb’s prediction of Nylander 90pts and Marner 130pts. The leafs are barely holding a playoff spot and without Tavares, it may be a tough couple weeks or more. It’s still early but Toronto hasn’t beat a good team yet.

19 Oct 2019 23:15:54
Robertson is a LW who is indeed off to a great stsrt along with another leaf prospect as his center SDA.

20 Oct 2019 01:12:00
Is Brady Tkachuk really that much better than Nylander that Leafs need to add all that? It’s a huge premium.

20 Oct 2019 03:48:10
Nylander is an elite winger? You do realize he’s on pace for about 45-50 points right? Not exactly elite unless standards have fallen more that I realized.

20 Oct 2019 11:34:50
Aho is on Pace for 30 does that mean he’s not elite?

20 Oct 2019 17:37:53
No it doesn't vbbb but at least he was elite at one point of his career.

05 Oct 2019 14:44:20
to Ottawa
Jones

to San Jose
6th

Most teams would never even think about taking Jones and his contract-- however, he could be the stabilizing force in net for the Senators for a long time. Since they don't have anything better as far as a goalie prospect or current goalie, I think they would be happy to take him even if his contract is difficult.

to San Jose
Allen

to St Louis
4th

St Louis is paying Allen 4+ to be a backup when he could easily be an improvement on the sharks. he doesn't even need to be that good he just needs to be better that what they have.

05 Oct 2019 15:41:12
Whats with the dealing of jones?
So Vegas looks better at this point in season and best he sharks handidly. Is that jones fault. I mean both games san jose doesn't wake up till 3rd period. that's jones fault.

Jones is a huge upgrade for ottawa so i'm sure they'll take jones and run.
Then san jose turns around and gives up a 4th for a goalie who was once in his life better than jones and i'm thinking that was 2010 when allen beat out jones for starting gig at world jrs for canada. Other than that jones is better. So get a 6th give up a 4th for a worst goalie.

Jones will win 36 plus games once san jose starts playing in front of him but if you think allen is the solution. guess that's your right of opinion.

05 Oct 2019 16:18:54
Jones for Allan is not an upgrade.

05 Oct 2019 16:27:18
Thats a no on ottawa's end anyway, I have a hard time believing thateither Jones nor Allen would be a stabilizing force or much of an upgrade on any team. They have both been sieves for a few years now.

05 Oct 2019 21:14:55
Facelift gets the prize. Best answer possible. Both those guys suck. Ottawa should run with the worst goalie they can find right now and try to tank again. Maybe this time they get to keep the pick.

21 Sep 2019 04:11:36
Ott:White

MTL:Suzuki

21 Sep 2019 14:45:58
I don’t think this will happen as Habs are high on Suzuki which they should be but white also just signed a long contract that can look like a steal in the end.

22 Sep 2019 00:54:03
Ottawa also has Poehling. I honestly don’t know if he actually plays center, or is just listed there for whatever reason. That contract of White’s is ridiculously team friendly. How they keep convincing players to accept less than market value is beyond me (*ahem*) Gardiner.

22 Sep 2019 01:10:25
I think it’s a great prop. White and Suzuki are very similar players. Habs have lots of depth at center right now. They can afford to swap out for someone else to fill in the bottom six guys. Not sure Suzuki is the one, but he’s got the ball started rolling. It might just end up the way it was supposed to be.

27 Sep 2019 19:00:16
sens dreamer .Why would the Habs trade to a rival.

18 Sep 2019 09:23:44
Toronto Trades
Petan
FGauthier
Marincin
Holl

Ottawa Trades
2nd Round Pick 2020 (Knights Pick)

This is a help each other type of Trade Proposal.
Ottawa is looking for more depth for this year as there rebuild is in full swing, once Hyman and Dermott return all those players will have to go through waivers plus it looks like the Marlies will be stacked so getting a 2nd Round Pick adds more depth for the 2020 Draft and the Sens still have 2 picks in the 2nd Round plus getting not great but still NHL Players to fill out there roster is what rebuilding Teams do, similar to the Babcock first year having Parenteau, Boyes, Spaling etc. On that Leaf Team.

Thoughts?

18 Sep 2019 10:56:37
Petans the only guy with value there, and his value is maybe a 4th. No way they get a 2nd.

18 Sep 2019 14:28:52
Lol. Just trying to dump your trash into someone else. got to add value for that to happen. Make it enticing.

18 Sep 2019 16:16:08
I’m sorry but scraps don’t equal value.

17 Sep 2019 17:49:38
Been a while since I made a post so since I'm on here now I might as well put a crazy one down and see what people think.

Ottawa certainly has no shortage of offensive defensemen and forward prospects now but could use help on the back end as is well noted.

So.

Ott : Thompson, Davidson, chlapic, 2nd (they have lots of those)

Tor : sandin or lilgegren, 3rd

Toronto gets a solid puck moving dman for their future as well as adds a couple solid forward prospects who can eventually fill spots left by guys Toronto is eventually going to lose anyway thanks to the Marner deal, on top of that they also upgrade a 3rd round pick to a 2nd round pick.

Ottawa downgrades their pick but still has one in first 3 rounds in order to get a solid defense prospect who is young enough to fit the rebuild and would slip in nicely as a defense partner for Chabot or branstrom and not look out of place.

Plus it would also fit with the formation of the 2 new clubs, the Ottawa maple leafs and the Toronto senators rofl.

17 Sep 2019 18:07:18
Toronto will desperately need those two guys to be solid impact players on cheap ELC contracts next year and the yess after. They are in no position to be trading away either those good D prospects.

17 Sep 2019 19:52:07
Lilijegreen and Sandin are so far apart in value that it does not make sense to / those 2.

17 Sep 2019 19:55:17
Sandin will not be moved unless it’s for a upgrade.

18 Sep 2019 09:25:32
Leafs counter offer a 2nd rounder and $1 mln in chips at the Mohegan Sun Casino for Uncle Eugene.

14 Sep 2019 07:45:47
MIN - OTT
Zach Parise, Kirill Kaprizov, Jonas Brodin & 1st
For
Mikkel Boedker

Boedker 4.00 @ 1 yr
Parise 7.53 @ 6 yr

The wild unload a huge contract

Then

ANA - OTT
Ryan Kesler, Daniel Sprong & 7th
For
Bobby Ryan

Bobby Ryan 7.25 @ 3 yr
Ryan Kesler 6.87 @ 3 yr


Anaheim gets a more servicable player




Zucker - Staal - Fiala
Boedker - Kunin - Zuccarello
Greenway - Koivu - Donato
Foligno - Eriksson Ek - Hartman

Suter - Dumba
Seeler - Spurgeon
Soucy - Pateryn



Tkachuk - Tierney - White
Brown - Anisimov - Batherson
Parise - Pageau - Duclair
Ennis - Kesler - Sprong

Chabot - Zaitsev
Brodin - Demelo
Hainsey - Jaros



Rakell - Getzlaf - Kase
Comtois - Henrique - Silfverberg
Jones - Steel - Ryan
Ritchie - Shore - Terry

Lindholm - Manson
Guhle - Fowler
Larsson - Del Zotto


Just mixing it up, tired of seeing the same old proposals

14 Sep 2019 12:30:15
That seems like a lot to dump a guy who should still be decent for a few of those 6 years.

14 Sep 2019 15:53:52
Ya way too much from Minny to add to Parise. Way too much.

14 Sep 2019 15:55:49
Dude, that is a disgusting overpayment to dump Parise. He’s not even a cap dump yet. I think in three years he might be, but he’s coming of a what? 50-60 point year? The dude isn’t a cap dump, c’mon, that’s pretty bad.

15 Sep 2019 07:17:26
“The dude isn’t a cap dump” he’ll probably be a 4th liner being payed 7+ mil 4 of the 6 years. That being said that is to much.

13 Sep 2019 00:21:47
Ottawa:
2022 5th

Minnesota:
Zach Parise
Kirill Kaprizov
2021 3rd
2022 4th

13 Sep 2019 03:46:59
Um what?

13 Sep 2019 05:52:32
ottawa may do this for the prospect but then parise would probably be tied with ryan for worst contract, plus they will have to start paying the kids sooner than later. i don't see this happening even though kaprizov would be a decent addition, maybe if they retain on parise.

13 Sep 2019 10:10:53
Parise is not a cap dumps atm even with no rentention. Ya he's being paid 7.5 million but he's getting 50+ points consistently so no your getting him + Kaprizov and the picks for a 5th rounder lol.

13 Sep 2019 11:31:07
Parise signed for like 6 more years is a cap dump, right now still ok but regretting it in the future.

14 Sep 2019 03:51:26
I just feel like no team can handle 6 years of praise Maybe something around Lucic/ Neal/ Seabrook but I’m not sure. Very good 2nd line player but won’t be in a couple of seasons. Praise and Kapizov for Neal and Puljujarvi?

26 Aug 2019 17:32:32
Edm: Puljujärvi , Bear , 3rd round (conditional the 3rd round pick becomes a 1st if Oilers make it to the second round in playoff)

Rangers: Kreider (agrees to resign like stone did Ottawa/vegas trade)

26 Aug 2019 18:42:20
To much from Edmonton imo.

26 Aug 2019 21:35:36
Need money going back to maybe work out
Manning or Gagner at the very least would have to be going to NY as well.

27 Aug 2019 01:38:43
Kreider signed is worth more than a huge bust that can’t walk, an AHL lifer, and a 1st. That is close to what Rangers can get for him unsigned at the deadline.

27 Aug 2019 04:49:27
Fanatic, example dylan strome, handled badly in Arizona, like 16 points in 48 games over parts of 3 seasons, nearly point per game in 50 some games with chicago. Seguin another example. Sometimes risk worth the reward. Kreider a big risk giving up also but could work out big in favor of ny. Especially with bear, he's a definite nhler, who knows what but can play. If 3rd was a 2nd I'd think be worth the risk. 3rd maybe but 2nd would seal it.

27 Aug 2019 05:12:06
Kreider isn't worth that risk now but see how the season works out, be pool for a young guy that hasn't worked out for another team would be fair, keep bear outta it.

28 Aug 2019 01:56:02
Bear is worth a 3rd at best.

28 Aug 2019 03:37:34
Pretty huge difference in teammates and linemates for Strome in Chicago than Arizona, whose top player had less points than OV had goals. Comparing Puljujarvi to Seguin is an insult to Seguin.

28 Aug 2019 15:56:01
Wtf did Seguin do in boston? You like 12 years old? Ya, debrincat is a pretty good 2nd year player and perlini we all know is a perennial allstar (sarcasm) such great linemates that made strome look better. Watch some nhl someday fanaticl.

24 Aug 2019 19:18:41
Ottawa Trades
5th Round Pick 2020

Vancouver Trades
Eriksson
Juolevi (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020

Similar to what Toronto had to deal with having the Marleau contract Vancouver has to shed that Eriksson Salary, yes it's a lot to give up but it has to be done and a rebuilding Team like Ottawa with Cap Space to cover Eriksson's contract or buy him out take advantage of these situations.

Thoughts ?

24 Aug 2019 19:50:30
How many times do I have to say this? If you don’t believe me then look it up for yourself, but stop posting garbage like this, it’s annoying.

The Canucks have 5 mil in cap space. When the season starts and we trim our roster that will jump to about 7. More so, when the season starts, Roussel is going on LTIR meaning we’ll have roughly 11 mil in cap space.

The Canucks are NOT in a cap crunch, we have more than enough time to move someone before Roussel comes back. So get it through your thick skull, we are NOT going to overpay to move a player, especially not this disgusting offer. Seriously. Go get your head checked out.

24 Aug 2019 19:55:30
I would take a stab at that if I was Ottawa.

24 Aug 2019 21:35:39
Vertius that's not overpaying to dump a player ahah, i agree its a bad idea but that's not overpaying. You're showing your bias

25 Aug 2019 01:06:40
It really is though. Marleau cost a first because a buyout gave Carolina no additional cap space and he refused to play for them. Typically you take a bit of money back and don’t give up a whole lot it’s like when people said it would take Foote and a 1st to dump Callahan. It took a 3rd and taking back A smaller salary in Condon.

25 Aug 2019 02:25:53
Vancouver doesn’t have a pick in 2020 only way it’s an tradable asset is if the Canucks miss the playoffs.

25 Aug 2019 18:24:30
vbbbvvbb what do you mean Vancouver doesn't have a pick in the 2020 Draft?
They have there 1st Round Pick that makes no sense.

25 Aug 2019 17:58:08
Good trade but as pointed out don't think Nucks have a first. Reduce to a 2nd and thus is a decent trade for both teams.

25 Aug 2019 19:19:48
They traded their 2020 1st to Tampa. Looks like I taught 5 people that also.

25 Aug 2019 22:30:37
I was thinking the same thing as vb, jt miller came to mind right away. this happened all too recently. aside from that tho, this sounds too costly for the canucks.

20 Aug 2019 23:02:48
Toronto Trades
Marner
FGauthier
4th Round Pick 2020

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
LBrown (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020 (Sharks Pick)

I have tweeked a previous post and took out Holl and DeMelo and changed the 1st Round Pick to San Jose from the Karlsson Trade.
Still think it's a possibility in today's NHL.


Thoughts ?

21 Aug 2019 00:10:04
Ottawa is too cheap. I can't see them considering this at all.

21 Aug 2019 00:41:19
No Ottawa would rather keep their 3 first round picks.

Logan Brown is a big boy. At least a #2 big center

BT 6'3" 23 goals 22 assist at 19. Going to be a star.

1st round pick

Too much from ott.

17 Sep 2019 17:32:03
I've been trying to avoid comments on here for a while now with all the horribly one sided proposals against Ottawa because they just give me headaches even attempting to consider how Ottawa could even think about them.

Then I saw this post and threw up in my mouth and still feeling sick to my stomach.

No way on earth Ottawa gives its best 2 forward prospects plus a 1st which is likely to be a late lotto pick this year due to all the players that have left San Jose in the offseason so far just to get Marner and a b- prospect, let's face it the 4th is basically nothing, and unless Marner has a sniper to play with he won't do much good anyway as he's afraid to shoot the puck.

19 Aug 2019 20:04:42
Toronto Trades
Marner
FGauthier
Holl
4th Round Pick 2020

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
DeMelo
LBrown (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020

Ottawa does have the Cap Space to make this Trade and it fixes the Leafs Cap, BTkachuk gives them strength on LWing and Bracco is given a spot alongside Tavares where he will thrive.

Thoughts?

19 Aug 2019 20:50:36
No team will make a trade for marner!! Especially if he wants that terrible 3 year day. Nobodys going to give that up for him, the only value he has is too toronto

19 Aug 2019 22:30:05
Marner is a Top Forward for any team to say nobody wants Marner is a stretch, Ottawa becomes better right away having Marner and they do have the Cap Space, you mean you don't think Sen Fans wouldn't be excited landing Marner? it's the Cap Space issue for the Leafs is why I make any proposal for Marner Sean Moneyhands.

19 Aug 2019 22:40:37
Yeah but teams have a salary cap. That trade has a lot going to leafs with only marner coming back.

20 Aug 2019 00:04:33
Ottawa laughs.

20 Aug 2019 00:48:41
Ottawa will not give up that much for marner. I think what Moneyhands means, is that Marner won't get the return Toronto wants, because everyone (including Ottawa) will be looking at the cap hit he wants. The senators paying marner 10mil+ is not happening soon, as they are not spenders.

If you want to trade Marner, it'll have to be a sign and trade, which means Toronto may as well sign him and keep him.

20 Aug 2019 03:31:49
Very, and I mean very small amount of teams are interested in Marner.
After free agency, 90% of teams already have their roster set and have a plan for their salary cap.
To trade for Marner the team would need to be:
A) A good team (you wouldn’t trade for Marner if you’re rebuilding)
B) Have 12M + in cap space.

20 Aug 2019 03:41:11
Another huge overvaluing of Marner.

20 Aug 2019 09:45:12
Monkeyful that's exactly what i meant. Was just too irritated to explain myself

20 Aug 2019 12:36:20
Marner is only 2nd to McDavid in overall scoring last year and not many teams want Marner?
Anyone who says no Teams want Marner are out to lunch, heard 2 Teams had an offer sheet out there that would have made him the highest paid player in the NHL.
Ottawa is getting a 22yr old Super Star Player not a declining 32yr old.
Marner would fit in perfectly in the Sens rebuilding sooner than later.
I only put this out there "if" the Leafs decided to Trade Marner it would be similar to this.
Leafs unloaded Zaitsev on Ottawa Traded Kadri and Rosen for Kerfoot and Barrie and got Colorado to take on half of Barrie's Contract.
Never say never when it comes to trades in the NHL.

20 Aug 2019 17:11:29
Wait, Marner was second in scoring to McDavid pinball? Are we looking at the same league? I see Kane, Draisaitl, Marchand, Crosby, MacKinnon, Gaudreau, Stamkos and Barkov above Marner in points. And then you have Kucherov who was above all of them including McDavid.

I know your obsession with Marner has made you and Vb crazy, but come on, it’s getting a little wild if your going to start throwing out false statements like that.

20 Aug 2019 17:22:07
Hey pin ball do you actually look at stats or just make sheet up. Also I rather have 4 or 5 centers who scored less than he did than marner

1) kucherov 41G 87A 128P +24
2) Mcdavid 41G 75A 116P +3
3) Pkane 44G 66A 110P +2
4) Drais 50G 55A 105P +2
5) marchand 36G 64A 100P +15
6) Crosby 35G 65A 100P +18
7) Mackinon 41G 58A 99P +20
8) Gaudreau 36G 58A 99P +18
9) stamkos 45G 53A 98P +4
10) Barkov 35G 61A 96P -3

11) Marner 26G 68A 94Pts
12) point 41G 51A 92pts.

20 Aug 2019 23:43:29
I mean age wise.
That's what I meant.
McDavid and Marner are both 22yrs old all the others are older.

21 Aug 2019 01:48:15
Age has nothing to do with it. Marner is far from being second to McDavid. Stop trying to justify your idiotic post with jibberish and just admit you were wrong. It’s pathetic.

04 Aug 2019 12:37:12
#1
To Carolina Hurricanes -
Jesse Puljujarvi
Kris Russell

To Edmonton Oilers -
Jake Bean

#2
To Ottawa Senators -
Matt Benning
Sam Gagner
4th-Round Draft Pick

To Edmonton Oilers -
Mikkel Boedker



Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - James Neal

Mikkel Boedker - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Alex Chiasson

Joakim Nygard - Markus Granlund - Josh Archibald

Tomas Jurco - Jujhar Khaira - Zack Kassian


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Evan Bouchard

Jake Bean - Ethan Bear

04 Aug 2019 14:28:22
1st trade wouldn't be too bad if Russell wasn't included.

05 Aug 2019 00:02:03
In my opinion Canes trade a defenseman for only forwards. Puljarvji is hit or miss but they got a crazy amount of de that russell doesn't really fit. Just a flyer on pujujarvi so not that bad.

05 Aug 2019 03:49:36
Thanks for the feedback yea carolina is stacked with d prospects

05 Aug 2019 10:03:12
Why would oilers trade puljujärvi for a D prospect? Thet are loaded with D’s. prob even the best D prospect pool in the legue. bouchard, Broberg, Jones, bear, samorukov, Lagesson. Persson? I mean they don't need bean.

06 Aug 2019 05:02:16
Only heard of 3 of those 7 prospects you named. Imo Colorado easily has the best d pool.

02 Aug 2019 08:27:56
#1
To Edmonton Oilers -
Second-Round Draft Pick in 2020

To Pittsburgh Penguins -
Kris Russell ( 2yr / 4.0M )

#2
To Edmonton Oilers -
Jean Gabriel Pageau ( 1yr / 3.1M )

To Ottawa Senators -
Zack Kassian ( 1yr / 1.9M )
Sam Gagner ( 1yr / 3.15M )
Third-Round Draft Pick in 2020


Oilers then sign Michael Stone ( 1.0M @ 1YR ) & Kevin Shattenkirk ( 2.75M @ 1YR )


Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - James Neal

Alex Chiasson - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jesse Puljujarvi

Markus Granlund - Jean Gabriel Pageau - Josh Archibald

Tomas Jurco - Jujhar Khaira - Joakim Nygard


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Kevin Shattenkirk

Matt Benning - Michael Stone

02 Aug 2019 13:18:00
Did Ken Holland find his 4 leaf clover? Why do Pittsburgh and Ottawa do this?

And why do free agents take a show me deal in Edmonton instead of contenders?

02 Aug 2019 19:10:22
Oilers trade another linemate of mcdavid, kassian can skate and Will keep playing with mcdavid and drai.

03 Aug 2019 02:25:29
@monkeyful that's exactly what they need. A show me contract, you think they don't have to prove themselves after getting bought out? Loool overvalue people just to be against others on this site no matter what eh?

27 Jul 2019 21:08:45
MOVE ONE:
IF Rangers move NAMESTNIKOV @ 4,000,000 and BUCHNEVICH @ 3,250,000 to Edmonton they would have 3,093,534 in cap space but if Edmonton sent back Ganger, Brodziak and Puljujarvi then the Rangers would only be 1,206,466 over the cap (which is better then the 4,156,466 they are currently at) and Edmonton rids themselves of a Puljujarvi.
As for Edmonton, they currently have 2,433,001 in cap space, they move out some salary and a player not wanting to be here and are then sitting at 6,733,001 of cap space less the 7,250,000 for the 2 Rangers they aquired are over by 516,999 on the cap.
This would require a second deal, enter Ottawa.
MOVE TWO:
Edmonton trades with Ottawa for PAGEAU and DUCLAIR (why those 2, cause one is going to be UFA and one is going to be a RFA next year) adding them would put Edmonton 5,266,999 over the cap but if Edmonton sends back to Ottawa RUSSELL, MANNING and BEAR (we can afford to give a young D back) we are giving back 6,970,000 in salary still leaves us with 1,703,001 in cap space.

27 Jul 2019 22:59:52
Both deals seem don’t really make sense imo.
Buchnevich and Namestnikov for a cap dump, a player that’s a fringe 4th liner and another that doesn’t even have a contract

Pageau is a cap dump.
Duclair is like a third line player. struggles everywhere on the ice in most games.
Ethan Bear has the most value in that trade.
Also, why would Ottawa want Manning and Russell? as surprising as it is, Duclair seems to fit in Ottawa.

Not that bad though.

27 Jul 2019 23:23:47
They litterly signed Buchnevich today.

28 Jul 2019 02:52:21
rangers would laugh in your face.

28 Jul 2019 08:56:25
Rangers get bent over and makes no sense for ottawa

30 Jul 2019 03:56:44
why is pageau a cap dump?

30 Jul 2019 07:15:16
He isn’t really that good in any part of his game.
He’s just mediocre and inconsistent.
And 3.1 a year for him?

30 Jul 2019 10:01:49
you should watch hockey more often rather than looking up stats for everything.

26 Jul 2019 20:45:57
I’m a Calgary fan we need to shed salary and Brodie seems to be the odd man out so why don’t we trade him to some team that the defence is weak my trades for tj brodie. Calgary trades :TJ Brodie To NYR for Vitali kravtov, rw. Or Ott for drake Batherson (rw) . Or Det for Joe Veleno ( c/ rw) . Or NYI for either Simon holmstrom or Oliver wahlstom. Or buff for victor olofsson and Rasmus asplund You could add pick in some trades if you like these are just young player I think you may get for Brodie Flames clear salary and get a young prospect back Please tell me your thoughts and if any of these deals make sense to you for the flames thanks.

26 Jul 2019 21:12:58
Do you know who Vitali Kravstov is/ what the Rangers cap situation is/ why do they need another dman/ are they contending. Rangers never answer a call from Treliving again. As for the rest, you are trading a #4 dman for top prospects that won't work at all. None of the trades work. Terrible value.

26 Jul 2019 23:42:51
Bf32 you're undervaluing brodie

27 Jul 2019 01:25:20
High 30 point dman, who is 2-way. Solid defensively. On an expiring deal @ 29 years old. Top prospects rarely get traded for rentals even if he were to come with an extension he is not worth any of the prospects listed. All of those guys are top 5 prospects to their respected clubs. You would more likely see Brodie traded for two 2nd's.

27 Jul 2019 02:20:55
Kravtsov is the 3rd best prospect rated ahead of Makar and Byram according by the most recent submitted list this guy has potential to be elite no way Rangers Trade him not even close.

27 Jul 2019 02:30:53
Just cause Brodie is 4th best on one of the deepest team defences in the league doesn't mean he's a 4th defenceman. Had 34 points and +29 last year. That's pretty good for a guy for 3.9 mil. Not saying he deserves a top de prospect but he has good value. And shown he can be a top line de.

27 Jul 2019 07:12:41
i'd do that trade from ottawa. it'd be hard to let go of batherson as he's a good prospect but you don't get a d-man like brodie every day.

27 Jul 2019 08:56:43
Shootsmcgee and Pkane88 are the only reasonable ones. Rangers say no but brodie does have decent value

27 Jul 2019 14:04:23
Sean Monyhands you can't seriously think Bodie has close value to Bodie. I’d say Kravtsov has more value then Tavares he has ridicules upside. It’d probably take Hanfin+ to get him.

27 Jul 2019 16:03:02
All I’m saying is a prospect is only prospect until he makes it brodie is a good 2 way defencemen and on these teams he could play on their 1 or 2 pairings easy.

27 Jul 2019 22:40:04
Is vbb drunk again? Bodie close value to bodie? Hanfin? More value than tavares? Ridicules. Either your auto correct on the fritz or you should sleep it off bud.

25 Jul 2019 22:43:28
Toronto- Mitch Marner

Ottawa- Tkachuk, JG Pageau And 1st 2020 ( big question mark but a lot of value make it 1st overall protected )

Toronto- Gets a high risk pick with Ottawa's 1st in 2020 could potentially be a star. Brady Tkachuk brings a different playing style to the leafs and Pageau is a decent replacement for Kadri

Ottawa: gets the best U25 winger in the game. Who can instantly wear the C and lead the team.

25 Jul 2019 23:00:23
Leafs don’t need a replacement for kadri, they already got Kerfoot and locked him at a comparable to kadri contract. Don’t thinknits smart to move marner to a division rival. Same could be said with Ottawa. If marner is moved to don’t think it’ll be to s team in the east especially for a player that isn’t the same caliber (not that tkachuk couldn’t be or won’t be) but tkachuk may or may not be all he’s was hyped up to be. If the leafs trade marner they either should take 4 firsts or a player that is currently close to his caliber.

25 Jul 2019 23:22:25
Kerfoot is a very poor Center and prefers playing wing. I’d rather try Kappanen as the 3C then Kerfoot. Kerfoot was the LW with Mackinnon and Rantanen for the most part. Pageau is an excellent shutdown guy something like Danault but maybe not as good offensively.

26 Jul 2019 00:51:14
Vb where did you get that Kerfoot is “a very poor centre”?
I know damn well you east coast kid didn’t watch any Colorado games. He might prefer to play wing, but that doesn’t mean he is “a very poor centre”.

Now on the trade. Personally, I don’t see why’s Ottawa would need Marner. Like I said before, on the Senators he’d probably finish with like 70 points.
JG Pageau has very little value imo because of his salary. He’s a bottom 6 player that gets laid 3.1M.

26 Jul 2019 00:55:46
Marner is not worth that, actually Tkachuck is worth more then Marner. If you look where Marner was at his age Tkachuck is looking like he can become, by a huge difference, better then Marner.

26 Jul 2019 04:12:25
VB where did you see Kerfoot played wing with Mac and Rantanen most the time? I was pretty sure Landeskog played with them like 95% of the time or something and Kerfoot Centered a line with like Ghetto and Wilson. I could be wrong I’m just curious because so much was made about that one Colorado line and their dependence on it.

26 Jul 2019 06:33:37
What Detroit is saying is obv not true, Marner is def the better player compared to Tkachuk. With that being said, there is no way OTT trades another sure fire top 3 pick.

26 Jul 2019 08:26:53
Go on HFboards and look at Colorado fans opinions of Kerfoot.

26 Jul 2019 08:55:02
Vb
Oh, so what you’re saying is you’re stealing people opinions without developing your own?

26 Jul 2019 13:05:24
Well I mean being in Atlantic time you can’t watch a lot of western conference games and the ones I watch are usually Canadian teams.

26 Jul 2019 15:28:51
Pageau is not an adequate replacement for Kadri. It would be better if he was just left altogether and simply made it Marner for Tkachuk and 1st.

Marner is by far the superior player at this moment. That may or may not change in the future, but it most definitely holds true for now.

26 Jul 2019 18:48:45
Then you aren’t qualified to say Kerfoot sucks at centre.

26 Jul 2019 19:06:08
Well Kerfoot was minus 13 as a centre last year played majority of the time on the wing also landy moved up and down the lineup after further research he was moved to spread out scoring and was their best defensive forward. I just watched 2 hours of video on Kerfoot and he dosent impress me much his defensive stats are deceiving and from what I saw while he does have solid playmaking potential he’s definitely nothing special scored 3 really nice goals.

26 Jul 2019 20:05:17
@vbb Kerfoot is a fine center. I seen him play a few times, more his first season than last year, he was not a stand out either way good or bad. He played a good game. He will be a good third line center. While he doesn’t exactly drive the play, he also doesn’t make many mistakes, and can play both ends of the ice.

25 Jul 2019 17:27:34
Ottawa Trades
2nd Round Pick 2020

Vegas Trades
Tuch

For Vegas it's either Tuch or Gusev going but feel Vegas is more high on Gusev, being in Cap Hell Vegas won't get much more than that maybe Ottawa adds a B Prospect.

Thoughts ?

25 Jul 2019 19:03:55
Didn't Toronto just get Vegas out of cap hell? I'm sure they would sooner trade gusev then tuch anyway. But if they could move a guy like reeves they could probably keep both.

25 Jul 2019 20:04:02
No way Tuch goes for so little.

26 Jul 2019 15:32:01
Tuch is signed long term to a team friendly contract. Exactly the type player Vegas needs on the team. He isn’t going anywhere, and especially not for just a 2nd.

24 Jul 2019 16:53:04
Oilers: Russel , 2nd round pick

Ottawa: 6/7 round pick

Oilers then sign gardiner for 1 year deal

To play as number 1 LD on oilers 1 year would prob rocket his value , he would prob put career high Numbers playing with mcdavid on PP , always been in the shadow of rielly in Toronto

24 Jul 2019 19:57:40
So many things wrong with this.

24 Jul 2019 20:22:19
He won’t sign a 1 year deal.

25 Jul 2019 01:51:00
Why doesn’t Ottawa sign Gardiner instead?

25 Jul 2019 06:48:03
Cuz Melnyk is cheap and wouldn't want to pay anything above 5 million per aav.

25 Jul 2019 11:59:43
Cuz he wouldn't even be the best LD on Ottawa,

He maybe get what he ask for from Montreal, no other would pay him high on longterm

One year oilers would be great for asking price next year.

24 Jul 2019 11:08:11
vancouver: Olli Juolevi, Loui Erikson, 2nd, conditional 3rd (if they make playoffs)
ottawa: pageau, boedker.

24 Jul 2019 13:36:30
Replace Joulevi with Hughes and take out picks.

24 Jul 2019 14:54:13
No from Vancouver. While Juolevi would be more than enough to dump Eriksson himself, the Canucks aren’t in a cap crunch and thus have no need to overpay to move a contract.

Also leave it to Vb to show his delusion again, Hughes to dump Eriksson? Get real lmao, there’s something wrong in your head, go get checked into a mental asylum.

24 Jul 2019 20:29:20
Okay we’ll look at it logically. I can send a link of the definition of logically if you’d like because I’d be surprised if you’re familiar with the word.

Patrick Marleau had a 1st attached to him to dump him for 1 season. Both players are buyout level and have the same annual salary ( around ) so if 1 1st round pick dumps 6million in salary for 1 year it’d take 3x as much to dump Erickson so if you’d like you can exchange Hughes with 3 1sts. Also not to mention Ottawa is giving back two decent players. I didn’t realize I was genius and knew more then everyone I’m actually very proud of my superior intelligence compared to the vast majority.

25 Jul 2019 01:06:23
Vertius is right, marleau was a need to be dumped, Vancouver is not in the same spot. So not going to give up assets to dump a contract. Leafs had to so they were at the mercy of teams knowing they had to.

25 Jul 2019 02:02:04
Is hughes really that much better than Juolevi though? From what I’ve seen, they are still pretty even rated.

25 Jul 2019 04:03:56
Joelevi wasa bust pick from day 1. Something beneficial to Ottawa needs to be offered up. Yes like Hughes or 1st rd'r.

24 Jul 2019 05:57:22
Ottawa is going to be playing Pageau on the 4th line. Wow i feel he'd be very useful on a team that actually needs him.


To OTT
Jack Roslovic
3rd-Round Draft Pick

To WPG
Jean Gabriel Pageau

24 Jul 2019 13:28:06
Garbage deal for Winnipeg. No thanks.

24 Jul 2019 14:35:04
Roslovic has more upside than Pageau so no from the Jets.

25 Jul 2019 02:04:29
Roslovic hasn’t turned out as good as Winnipeg hoped. But he’s still better than Pageau. If I had to bet which of them will still be in the league in ten years, I put my money on Roslovic.

 
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