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22 Feb 2019 17:34:26
Based on the return Ottawa got on the Duschene trade.

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Conditional 1st Round Pick 2020 (if Stone resigns), Petan, Stanley

22 Feb 2019 17:54:02
This is close but the Jets should take out Stanley and give the Sens a choice of Suess, Spacek or Lipon all solid B prospects.

22 Feb 2019 18:07:43
I would say they look more comfortable into Appleton then Petan. Tbh if Petan goes anywhere I see a team giving up a 4-5th round pick.

22 Feb 2019 18:10:06
A possible slight suggestion, remove the 2020 1st round pick, with us taking back B Ryan (50% retained)

22 Feb 2019 20:10:34
Duchene* for f sakes lol. Also Stone has more value than Duchene. So i'm sure he will potentially get bigger return.

22 Feb 2019 20:21:07
That would be a very comparable offer to what Duchene got. Well done. I agree with Islandjet though, we may be able to keep Stanley and give up a lesser piece.

Overall though, a pretty good offer.

22 Feb 2019 20:30:35
Honestly the guy has been in the league for like a decade why can’t people figure out how to spell the guy’s name. It’s pretty simple. Douchaysne. Figure it out guys seriously.

23 Feb 2019 00:09:34
Way too much from Winnipeg, I mean c’mon guys, the God himself Petan is in there, he could probably get Stone 1 for 1.

No but seriously, Petan is valueless, a team would give up at most a 4th for him, so if you want Stone is going to start with two firsts and a good prospect, not none of this B prospect crap and Petan, get real.

23 Feb 2019 00:28:54
Well not a spelling bee website. I was thinking duchene and stone are close in value, was thinking stone was worth more cause all around game, but centers seem more valuable so maybe evens out. Stone will get same If teams are willing to pay but sets the price for stone. I thought maybe opens the door for Columbus to trade panarin but from what I've read they're keeping him. Would be awesome to see him back in Chicago but slim chances they want players like Saad and anisimov and add like a Mitchell and a couple 1sts unless guaranteed to resign.

22 Feb 2019 15:40:10
OTT: Stone, Dzingel
NYI: Dobson, Bellows, Ladd, Beauvillier, Ho Sang, 2019 2nd rounder that belongs to Calgary.

22 Feb 2019 15:56:50
Hahaha holy smokes no from isle christ.

22 Feb 2019 14:51:55
Boston:
Heinen
1st round pick 2019
Forsbacka-Karlsson
conditional 2nd rounder in 2020 ( if Boston makes cup final or if Stone resigns, it becomes a 1st rounder).

Ottawa:
Stone

22 Feb 2019 15:04:34
I can see Ottawa accepting that, i think.

22 Feb 2019 05:05:25
Ottawa: anderson
Calgary: 3rd

or

Ottawa: anderson
florida: 3rd.

22 Feb 2019 00:53:29
Ott- Tolvanen, Wennberg, clb 1st 2019
Nash - duchene
Clb- fiala, ott 3rd 2019.

22 Feb 2019 01:23:33
Make the 1st coming from Nashville instead of Columbus makes more sense to me. Otherwise Nsh gains Duchene and all they give up is Tolvanen?

22 Feb 2019 01:26:52
What the how does Ottawa get Wennberg, Tolvanen and a 1st just for Duch? Lol def no from Columbus and Nashville.

22 Feb 2019 18:36:12
Zamboni in this trade Nashvile is giving up Fiala and Tolvanen to acquire Duchene wich is not bad. Its slot to give up for a rental yes but that rental is over a ppg this season and Tolvanen, for all we know could never pan out in the nhl. Or become a beast. Fiala is going to be a 50 point player imo. Good top 6 player a better Marcus Johanson imo.

22 Feb 2019 18:45:32
Sens give up Duchene and a 3rd
Nash gives up Tolvanen, Fiala
Clb gives up Wennberg and a 1st

Sens get Tolvanen, Wennberg and a 1st
Wennberg is descent and in need of a change of scenery and will help Ottawa hit cap floor next year

Nash gets Duchene

Clb gets Fiala and 3rd.

21 Feb 2019 20:25:54
Ottawa Senators:

•) Matt Duchene


Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) Josh Anderson

•) Veini Vehvilainen

•) 1st Round Pick 2019

•) 4th Round Pick 2019 (2nd if Duchene Resigns)

21 Feb 2019 20:23:08
Ottawa Senators:

•) Matt Duchene


Nashville Predators:

•) Kevin Fiala

•) 1st Round Pick 2019.

21 Feb 2019 23:25:00
Id say the value is good but he's a rental and some individuals will say this is too much. But i could see Duchene re-signing there.

22 Feb 2019 01:50:00
Conditional 1st/ 2nd and I think it’s good. Maybe a small add.

22 Feb 2019 09:52:39
This seems fair to me, if theyres a budding war for his services I could see another team proposing asimilar trade but with a B prospect on top of it.

20 Feb 2019 21:01:01
edm:sekera,puljujarvi,2020 1st and 2019 2nd
nas:subban

edm:lucic,rieder and 2019 1st
ott:duchene(if he resigns 6mil x7)

the reason i think ottawa takes that deal is as of right now edms 2019 1st will be in top 3 picks and ottawa is in a rebuild and with there pick and edms 1st pick that will give them 2 of 3 first picks in 2019 draft

20 Feb 2019 21:10:12
Duchene i'm sure will seek more than 6mil per season. Also i cannot see ottawa taking that, however if both Duchene and Stone are moved i read Ott needs to hit the cap floor so Lucic's contract could be needed, but again no from Nash and Ott. Oilers can wish.

20 Feb 2019 23:09:25
No from Nashville and Ottawa.

21 Feb 2019 00:14:15
Did I seriously just read a Lucic for Duchene proposal? Ottawa would be better losing Duchene for nothing than take on another boat anchor contract. Bobby Ryan and LUcic would take up over $13M in cap space.

21 Feb 2019 16:30:53
zamboni if your read all of it and see edm is sending there 2019 1st round in that trade which is what ott wants it will be a top 3 pick in draft and with the luck edm has it could be 1st over all. lucic gives oilers the space to have duchene and if ott loses stone as well they will be under the floor cap next yr so lucic will get them to the cap floor then ott will have 2 1st round picks in the first 3 picks in draft.

21 Feb 2019 20:03:43
Isnt Ottawas pick colorados this year? they have no 1st round pick this year.

22 Feb 2019 22:50:10
First off cableguy, Ottawa don't have their own pick

Second, adding Duchene with a month and a half left in the season guarantees improvement for Edmonton who is currently in 5th last with games on hand on half the teams they are chasing, so taking Lucic as part of this as is, makes absolutely no sense for Ottawa, especially if Duchene has to agree to resign with Edmonton, either Edmonton adds 2big pieces, or they take out Lucic and add 1 solid piece, but as is? NO WAY Ottawa does this

Third, your high if you think he'll resign for 6 million over 7 years, he'd stay a sense of that's the case lol. You're looking at over 8 million easy.

20 Feb 2019 20:51:02
Ottawa Senators:

•) Mark Stone


Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) 1st Round Pick 2019

•) 2nd Round Pick 2019 (1st if Resigns)

•) Bryan Rust

•)

20 Feb 2019 21:46:04
I like it a lot!

21 Feb 2019 00:19:54
It’s probably about the right price. I don’t know ow if Pittsburgh s willing to lose such a big chunk of assets for a rental like Stone though. They got Kessel for less.

22 Feb 2019 14:55:03
This is so bad it should go on 1 of those late night shows to be roasted on how bad a proposal it really is lol no way Ottawa gives Pittsburgh one of the games best defensive forwards for a fourth line tough guy, a 2nd rounder, and a 3rd rounder (possible 2if resigned) . Rofl NO WAY AT ALL!

20 Feb 2019 20:16:52
Ottawa gives:
- stone or Duchene (50% retained)
( both to me seem to have similar trade value )

Bruins give:
- 2019 1st rounder
- 2020 3rd rounder ( 2nd rounder if the bruins make the Stanley cup finals in 2020)
- Heinen
- Donato
- Backes (50% retained)

OTTAWA gets: high rounded picks that they could use to trade up in the drafts, they get not one but two young established nhl ready players, and an experienced player who knows the two young players playing styles

BRUINS get an established nhl top 6 1st/2nd line player to fill in a big need: a player to play consistently with Krejci and DeBrusk

20 Feb 2019 21:00:51
Too much from the Bruins for either UFA.

22 Feb 2019 14:59:33
Not too much at all islanjet, quit smoking dude.

But I don't understand why both teams are retaining here, Duchene contract as well as stone is up at year's end, no need for Ottawa to retain at this point

Also Donato already gone in Coyle trade so I would imagine debrusk would be replacement here.

20 Feb 2019 10:37:38
Ottawa Senators:

•) Matt Duchene


Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) 1st Round Pick

•) Josh Anderson

•) Veini Vehvilainen

•) 3rd Round Pick (1st if Duchene Resigns)

20 Feb 2019 16:39:58
I'd do it, another goalie prospect for the future (I'd love to see a Vehvilainen and Gustavsson combo), Josh Anderson gives them a roster player to play now and the 2 picks (potentially both first if duchene resigns) give them good picks for rebuild.

20 Feb 2019 17:14:17
Doesnt make any sense for Columbus UNLESS Panarin was already traded.

20 Feb 2019 18:17:25
Even if Panarin is traded, Columbus isn’t going to bring in another UFA. Same situation applies in Columbus as in both Ottawa and Colorado that Duchene wanted out from to begin: too much instability. Duchene doesn’t want to be on a team that is reorganizing.

20 Feb 2019 18:54:12
Good point zamboni.

20 Feb 2019 19:26:48
If they made this trade they wouldn’t trade Panarin. I think it’s a little too much though personally.

20 Feb 2019 19:41:21
Teams are probably looking into sign and trade options to not make it a rental, if it was then would be a fair trade imo.

20 Feb 2019 19:42:46
But not an extra 1st, maybe a lower draft pick with no conditions.

22 Feb 2019 15:05:08
If Duchene resigns shootsmcgee? Absolutely another first

With Gustafson already in the system there's no guarantee vehvilainen will make it big

And Columbus 1st is a mid to late pick

Jos Anderson is good but he don't make up that kind of difference on resigned Duchene

Trade is good as it with condition and all.

20 Feb 2019 05:53:55
To winnipeg
Duchene
Stone-re signs taking home town discount.


To Ottawa
2019 1st rounder
2020 2nd rounder
2020 5th rounder
Comrie
Petan
Appleton.

20 Feb 2019 12:45:13
People have to stop with spare parts for proven talent. Just cause your team sees them as a rental doesn't lower thier value. other teams would crush this in hope of re- signing 1 if not both. If getting both, have to be 2 1sts at least.

20 Feb 2019 14:28:47
Tbh most people think they are smarter then actual GMs or over value some players ( everyone does it no matter how non bias they think they are) . And seeing these Stone trades really show it, personally I think Stone is a 1st line winger on any team in the league. Even as a rental ( with extra time to try to sign) he is worth at least a 1st rounders + at least a B+ to A level prospect and a minor roster player or AHL player. He is an amazing player.

20 Feb 2019 15:09:03
this is a pathetic offer for two star rentals lol and you think one will re-sign oh god.

20 Feb 2019 15:56:27
Where ever UFA's Stone and Duchene end up it would be interesting to see if they get a kings ransom like many posters here think they will get. Most likely they bring back draft choices, which the Sens really want and a prospect or two but not the crazy proposals that people believe the Jetswill part with. I'd agree that Comrie and draft choices will be part of the package but I would be surprised if it included more than a good B prospect.

20 Feb 2019 16:39:45
THEN YOU ARE NOT GETTING STONE OR DUCHENE you jets fans have got to be the most clueless iv ever seen regarding an offer for a STAR player its beyond bad how you legitimately think youll get a star player for crumbs.

20 Feb 2019 16:41:16
Here ya go take the two best players on our team and well gladly take two 3rd round picks and 3 guys who won't be of any impact, nice.

20 Feb 2019 17:16:09
Jets will not get Duchene or Stone unless a 1st or top prospect is included. At minimum.

20 Feb 2019 17:38:17
Islandjet the problem I’m seeing is that people think Petan is still a good B prospect, when in reality he’s not. He’s a fringe NHLer rn and probably will stay that way. He’s like Hudon in MTL can barely make the lineup and when In he’s on the 4th line. I’ll be honest I haven’t spent much time looking at the jets prospects but I do know Ottawa has a good goalie in there prospect pool so I doubt they would really want Comrie over another good prospect. And we all know there 1st is a later one but that’s what to be expected with these rental trades. I do see jets pushing for Stone and I do see them possibly paying a kings ransom for him.

20 Feb 2019 17:39:44
And you can even agree this is a bad proposal for Stone and Duchene with Stone resigning.

20 Feb 2019 18:19:33
Can’t see this one happening. At least one of Duchene or Stone would be playing third line. Winnipeg just doesn’t need those guys. They won’t be willing to pay the asking price because they would be third line players on Jets.

20 Feb 2019 18:54:36
People really over value rental player's returns based on emotion, not reality. I know Ottawa fans want to believe that they will be able to get all the pieces they need to complete their rebuild with the returns for these two players.

Unfortunately for them, they have a poor GM, that let the players get to a point where their value is the lowest.

In all likelihood the return for each one will be the historically well established maximum return of a 1st, B/ C prospect and an NHL ready player with moderate upside or a long shot player with higher upside. Then another pick conditional based on re-signing.

So, from the Jets it would be something like this: 1st, Stanley, Petan plus a conditional pick for re-signing.

20 Feb 2019 19:25:47
Its funny because 98% of the people who rip on you jets fans for your horrendous low ball offers for Stone or Duchene aren't even sens fans and we are just trying to get your brain to understand that you aren't getting a star player for bits and pieces of nothing.

20 Feb 2019 19:42:44
I find it funny how all these people who try to rip on the offers, only base their responses on emotion not reality. Maybe some of you actually believe giving away a top prospect for 2 months of a player is a good move? I don't know, but it is not based on reality.

It doesn't matter that you believe these players are gods. Rental players almost NEVER return top prospects and Stone and Duchene will be no different, especially in a buyer's market.

Go ahead and make a list of all the top prospects that have been given up for a rental. I don't think you'll get much past one.

The return is well established historically and is not near what the dreamers on this site believe.

20 Feb 2019 20:10:39
Martin erat got forsberg when he was a prospect.

20 Feb 2019 20:57:28
There you go, one example of a rental pulling a top prospect and it was an abject failure.

I think we've proven why these sky high asks are unrealistic.

20 Feb 2019 21:18:25
The fact you wouldn't risk trading Vesalainen (your top prospect), a prospect whose future is completely up in the air and potentially won't be an impact player for another 2-3 years on the jets, for a bonafide winger that increases the chances immensely to winning the stanley cup just blows my mind. And the fact you aren't even giving away any roster players either. man. The only unrealistic thing here is your own expectations for a deal.

20 Feb 2019 21:22:13
But look at this proposal no way in hell would this get both guys maybe 1 of them but not both.

20 Feb 2019 21:50:14
Notdelusional, now I see your problem. You don't have any idea who the Jets prospects are. Vesalainen well likely be playing with the Jets next year, not 2 our 3 years down the road, so you have no idea of the quality of the prospects you're talking about.

If you would be fine with your team throwing away top prospects for two months of a player that marginally (by 1 or 2%) improves your teams chances, by all means push for that position when the time comes. Smart fans and GM's though won't do it, which is why it doesn't happen.

I asked you to provide an example or two of where a top prospect was given up for a rental. I got one example that was a horrific disaster.

The fact you can't find any proves my point. Jets fans are basing their offer on reality and historically similar trades for rental players. You're expectations are entirely unrealistic and not backed by any historical precedent or examples. Just a poor understanding of the value of rental players compared to players with term.

20 Feb 2019 22:43:37
If you read what iv said before, i mention top prospect. I didn't say B or C prospects. All i'm saying is the jets will not get one of duchene or stone if a TOP prospect or 1st is not included. Also, you speak about historic and stuff when was the last time a player of value similar to Stone has been on the market prior to trade deadline, off the top of my head nobody. Stone is 26, in his prime and is a first line winger, you telling me he won't fetch a top prospect or 1st is criminal.

And i also said an impact player, not just being on the roster. But actually being a top 6 player putting up points and being productive. If you think Stone will only imporve the jets by 1-2% then you must think extremely highly of Ves. And to continue not once have i ever said Stone or whoever will get a ridiculous overpay, iv stated many times that he won't be traded unless a top prospect or a 1st is coming back in return so before going he ho on me take in mind what iv said please i don't just go on rants for no reason. i'm simply tellin you and islandjet you aren't getting a top player for bits, and history will back that up as well.

20 Feb 2019 23:18:21
So I’ll put my sense into this, notdelusional is trying to say the same thing as me, that the Jets won’t get a top player unless they are willing to part with a top prospect or 1st. And Marcus you just don’t want jets to sacrifice the farm in order for a better chance at the cup.

I agree that sending a top prospect for a rental doesn’t make much sense but if that’s the case and Jets think they can win the cup I say they do it. But in general all these posts are annoying because the only way a jets fan agrees is if it is an underwhelming offer but that won’t be the reality at all, they simply won’t get a top player and will have to settle for a lesser player then.

And besides I’m pretty positive Ottawa has had talks with Stone about an extension and only Duchene so far has been confirmed to be traded at the deadline or before. So no more Stone to jets because I don’t think it will happen. And last thing, Stone and Duchene have different values and definitely would not be traded together in one package there’s no way the other team could send back what would be necessary to complete that. So let’s stop butting heads and talk about other trade options 😂.

20 Feb 2019 23:46:23
Remember the Jets are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL with 4 or 5 A prospects NHL ready next year, if Maurice doesn't want to keep seasoning them another year, so they aren't in a desperate win now or go down hill mode. Winnipeg will not give away top prospects for a rental that in 3 years may not be as good as what posters want the Jets to trade now. Also with the Seattle draft coming soon it will be good to have younger players that will be protected by the rules of the draft.

20 Feb 2019 03:46:02
Since all the Ottawa fans think that what I've proposed so far isn't enough here we go....

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Vesalainen, Conditional 3rd Round Pick 2020 (turns into a 1st if Stone resigns)

Jets then sign Stone to an 8 year $7.5M contract. At the draft they trade Ehlers for a top 5 Pick to clear salary.

20 Feb 2019 04:30:24
He’s not getting a top 5 pick when the teams who draft those players will need those ELCs.

20 Feb 2019 15:50:32
How is he not? He’s 23, posted back to back 60+ point seasons and is under a great contract for another 6 years. If the Jets trade him for a Top 5 Pick it’s a gamble and they’re not guaranteed an impact player.

20 Feb 2019 16:44:19
Mcjesus clearly stated why lol if you read it. bottom feeder teams in the mix for a lottery pick will need those top 5 draft picks to pan out and be impactful during their ELCs, these teams don't need that cap right now.

20 Feb 2019 17:09:32
There are so many trade proposals that have the Jets giving way too much for a rental that just will not happen. Chevy is a very smart GM and is most likely looking for another very good piece or two elsewhere. If Ottawa want an unrealistic return for Stone or Duchene they can go fleece another team.

20 Feb 2019 17:16:49
^ yes.

20 Feb 2019 17:47:44
Does a team like Arizona or Edmonton want to go on the path of draft and develop? Probably not, they’ve both been doing that for how many years now. It’s time for them to move some picks for proven players.

20 Feb 2019 18:14:30
My yes was directed to notdelusional, but Jaxon you used a good example in Oilers, bcuz yes they would definitely take a proven player instead of that top 5 pick but they do not have the cap space for it, hence why I said those lottery teams need those players on their ELCs. And Arizona is no where near contending so they absolutely will not trade away their pick. They’ll stay the course and draft a player and I can’t recall any trade in the past 5-10 years that somebody traded away a top 5 pick at the draft for a player (If it’s happened then I just am not aware of it) .

20 Feb 2019 18:15:16
Edmonton is a really good example jax but like what was said before oilers will need that ELC as they don't got the cap space for Ehlers.

20 Feb 2019 18:17:02
its alright islandjet when your cryin because the jets don't get any player of significance at the deadline because they won't part with atleast a 1st or top prospect we will all be here for you. nawt.

20 Feb 2019 18:22:03
Even when trading for proven players, Edmonton and Arizona are just so bad that even the proven players end up going downhill. Lucic is perfect example of that.

20 Feb 2019 18:57:13
Zamboni that's a complete bonehead example, a perfect dumb example.

20 Feb 2019 18:58:23
No from Winnipeg. Rental players do not return top prospects. This is well established historically. Ottawa has no chance at Vesalainen for a rental.

20 Feb 2019 20:24:58
I think I would be more concerned if the Jets over-payed for any rental rather than not making a trade that cost them players for the future. Chevy is a smart GM and he will not sell the farm to get a rental.

20 Feb 2019 22:07:11
Memarcusjoe they got Gustafson for basically nothing plus Vegas ate half Brassard contract in same 3 way trade.

Also if rentals don't return top prospects you might want to tell the rest of the league that. Pittsburgh notorious for shopping top prospects for a rental shot at cup, Washington also did it with erat or did you forget the Forsberg part of that deal? Or more recently Miller and McDonagh both in their contract year getting the rangers a 1st, Howden and then some.

To say rentals don't get top prospects is laughable at best as it literally happens every year with teams who want to take a run at the cup, heck you could argue the EK to SJS trade was a season rental not that I want to use that as an example but I could.

22 Feb 2019 09:36:44
Stone is not signing for 7.5m per.

19 Feb 2019 00:10:19
OTT: Stone
WPG: Comrie, Petan, Spacek, 1st Round Pick 2019

19 Feb 2019 04:19:11
Now that's a proper offer for a rental. Nothing off the roster, just a pick and prospects. 4 assets is a bit much, but I could live with it.

19 Feb 2019 19:17:08
Lol ya a proper trade for sens to decline.

19 Feb 2019 19:57:48
Wish I could get a top player in the league who is only 26 for 3 guys who won’t ever make the team and an extremely late 1st round pick.

19 Feb 2019 22:22:27
Stone is a UFA rental that the Jets wouldn't be able to resign so he isn't worth as much to the Jets as the posters believe. Why give up too much for a player that may not help the Jets win the cup. Look at what Vegas traded for Tatar last season, and he barely played.

19 Feb 2019 22:31:54
Well that is the traditional price for rentals. This is a bit generous, the price is normally a first and a B prospect, plus maybe a conditional pick or another B/ C prospect.

20 Feb 2019 01:12:42
Stone is a lot better than the traditional rental type player too though, so may be able to bring a larger return.

20 Feb 2019 03:55:00
Take out Spacek and I’m cool with it

18 Feb 2019 13:52:45
Ottawa: Niku,Comrie,1st 2019

Winnipeg: Duchene

&

Ottawa: 1st 2020

Toronto: Ceci

18 Feb 2019 15:46:26
A 1st for Ceci yikes.

18 Feb 2019 15:54:51
I'd rather do Stanley, Petan and a 1st. I don't think the Jets want to move Niku.

18 Feb 2019 16:07:17
I can't see the Jets trading Nuku, Ves, Samberg and Stanley for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 16:22:49
Toronto definitely says no. Maybe if the 1st was going the other way.

18 Feb 2019 17:51:07
Unfortunately, you have to be prepared to give to get. I can see the Jets prepared to trade their 1st rounder and a combination of Comrie, Petan, Niku, Appleton or Roslovic. Unfortunately, both Petan and Comrie won't get a chance here.

Chevy is a smart GM and won't break the bank for a short-term solution. there's a small window at an opportunity to compete for Lord Stanley. If this is it for the Jets, they will plug holes that they feel they need.

20 Feb 2019 17:25:20
Toronto 1st is more like a 2nd so yes to that, Duchene deal though you still need to add even for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 03:32:51
ottawa: Duchene
nashville: Fabbro, 1st

Ottawa: Stone
Winnipeg: Niku, Petan, Comrie, 1st

Ottawa: Dzingle
Boston: 1st

Ottawa: Anderson
LA: 3rd.

18 Feb 2019 04:14:41
Nashville has to commit and go all in one year and why not this year, yes from Nashville.
Extremely easy no from sens.
No from Boston.
Don’t see a reason why LA does that. like at all.

18 Feb 2019 04:19:04
Big no from Nashville.

Big no from Ottawa.

Close, but Ott will want more, Boston’s first won’t be that good.

And no from LA, they don’t need Anderson, they need picks not to give them up for ancient goalies.

18 Feb 2019 14:10:11
I didn't think the Jets will be giving up Niku. If the Sens want a defenseman, they may get Stanley.

18 Feb 2019 16:08:55
Jets will not trade Niku for a rental.

18 Feb 2019 16:26:13
Rumour is Nashville is all in and Fabbro is one of the pieces they are dangling for a top rental, so I could see it happening.

17 Feb 2019 17:29:59
Ok so Winnipeg and Calgary are supposedly in a bidding war over Duchene and or stone so.

Cal : m. tkechuck, Bennet, Cal 1st in 2020

Ott : Duchene, dzingle, Ceci

Ceci and Bennett cancel each others value, Ottawa gets the other tkechuck plus loads up for next year's draft after throwing this year's away while Calgary get the best player and fastest player in the deal.

17 Feb 2019 17:38:48
There is zero percent chance Calgary does this one sided Ottawa biased trade.

17 Feb 2019 19:19:42
That dosent get Tkachuk alone.

17 Feb 2019 19:30:54
Calgary wouldn’t even do this if Duchene and Dzingel had term left on their contracts. I’d rather Tkachuck and Bennett on my team.

17 Feb 2019 19:40:13
I would rather not have Bennett if I have the chance to get Duchene lol.

17 Feb 2019 19:49:31
Tkachuck is actually the best player in the trade. Duchene puts up points and that's about it. Tkachuk does so much more and has nearly as many points too, plus way younger and cheaper this season.

17 Feb 2019 20:51:59
Did you miss the part about Tkachuck McJ? You don’t give him up for a few months of Duchene.

17 Feb 2019 21:00:58
If Tkachuk was in Edmonton I wouldn’t trade him possibly ever. He does it all. And only getting better and better.

18 Feb 2019 06:04:58
Duchene is better than tkechuck both offencively and defensively sorry to burst your biased bubbles, tkechuck fights better that's it, these comments are pathetic and only further prove everything I've always said.

Let me put it this way folks, both stone and Duchene are stars who are both top 6 player on every and any team in the league and even top 3 on most. Peanuts and hot garbage don't get you their jock straps, you want a player like either of them even as a rental, you are going to be paying to get them whether you like it or not!

So get out of your fantasy world's where freebies are handed out on silver platters and come back to reality before you lose more than just your minds!

18 Feb 2019 14:21:09
You’ve been wrong about everything you’ve ever posted. You come here to argue and your team is a mess. Good luck getting Tkachuck.

18 Feb 2019 09:15:39
The only thing I agree with what you said Ramboo is Ceci= Bennett and even that is debatable.

18 Feb 2019 09:16:03
@Shootsmcgee ok then Tkachuk is more valuable then Kucherov because all kucherov does is put up points? Duchene plays on the worst team in the league and Tkachuk on one of the best. Tkachuk would not have this many points in ottawa and Duchene would have way more in Calgary.

20 Feb 2019 02:39:09
If you’re going to call yourself ‘nobias. ’ it’s be beneficidl for you to watch more Flsmes games. You’re terribly wrong. Tkachuk is younger and will be RFA as opposed to UFATHAT Dusch will be. Cecil sucks and Dzingel maybe just a flash in the pan. Tkachuk is a future captain and I’ve never heard him say stupid things in an UBER vehicle about his organization.
You should get comfortable with the reality that your not getting any solid NHL player for any of your UFAs to be. Maybe 4th liners and B prospects and possibly a 1st.

20 Feb 2019 17:48:56
I haven't been wrong about anything Leafs goof. Sens just have a bone head gm. I said Hoffman should have fetched us at least a 1st and that is more than true no matter what his gf said, want proof it's called Derrick Brassard deal.

Hoffman is a much better talent on a cap friendly contract than Brassard who got a mid to late 1st (at time of trade), a top prospect goalie, and a top 4 Dman who was flipped for a 2nd, let alone Ek who's value far exceeds Hoffman's as well.

Just because Dorion is incompetent don't make me wrong. He had plenty of time to wait for the right trade for both guys but instead pulled an early trigger that costed the team what they could have got.

Personal issues should never be that much of a factor towards trade value at any time unless your gm is useless like Dorion.

21 Feb 2019 03:55:52
Sc4cgy bennet sucks too what's your point? They cancel each other. And not a chance they pass over captain from Gaudreau to tkechuck, get real dude.

I'd give you and arguement on the Duchene vs tkechuck thing too but mtl4life actually made my argument for me to which I don't really need to add more other than RFA or Ufa? It don't matter as both are getting pay days, the only advantage a RFA has to a team is they maintain his services an extra year to try get a trade if they don't sign but lose him in the end anyway assuming no offer sheets are made.

And dzingle is hardly a flash in the pan when he has been a top 4 or 5 forward on Ottawa for last 4 seasons putting up decent numbers in all of them

Oh and sc4cgy, 4th liners b prospect and 4th line? Get real dude! Brassard was basically a rental I'll be it 1 extra year in last year's deal and he got a mid to late 1st, a top 4 Dman (flipped for a 2nd), and a projected future starting tendy, Duchene will or should easily get more that that!
Can't say he will for sure because Dorion is known to take less than dismal returns for big name player which is rediculous but Duchene absolutely is worth a lot more than Brassard and stone more than that even.

22 Feb 2019 10:51:11
Calgary most definitely will pass on gudreau on captain for Mathew Tkachuk, hence why TK wears an A and Johnny nothing, Johnny is a great player but he's not a leader.

16 Feb 2019 23:31:19
Ottawa trades: Mark stone (verbal agreement to resign)

Jets trade: Nicolaj Ehlers, Kristian vesalainen.

17 Feb 2019 00:04:34
These “verbal agreement to resign” deals ain’t going to happen. Any extension talks between player and team are illegal without permission from his current team. Why would Ottawa, or any other team allow that? They won’t. Letting another team mow your lawn while you are still playing on the grass isn’t going to happen. If these guys think they can get a better offer, they have to wait until free agency. They aren’t going to get permission to find a better offer while still playing for their current team. Why would any team allow another team to try and poach their best players?

17 Feb 2019 00:19:48
Might be a bit much from Wpg. It depends how good Stone’s contract is. Ehlers is signed for a really good deal but I’d say Stone is better. So it would be worth it if Stone signed for a max of like 7 mil a year I’d say.

17 Feb 2019 00:44:18
Depending on what he agreed to sign for if it's say tavares money I think jets stick with what they have.

17 Feb 2019 00:46:48
Nope. Not a chance. The offer I believe is Stanley, our 1st and Petan. This offer is way to much for Stone even if he wants to re-sign.

17 Feb 2019 01:37:34
Ottawa wishes.

17 Feb 2019 17:43:25
Winnipeg will not trade Ehlers and Ves for Stone as he would want much more than the Jets would want to pay.

18 Feb 2019 06:05:24
Not a chance.

16 Feb 2019 21:25:23
Three-Way Trade Idea:

Columbus Blue Jackets Trade: Artemi Panarin [6.00 Million x 1 Year] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick.
Ottawa Senators Trade: Mark Stone [7.350 Million x 1 Year] + Ryan Dzingel [2.10 Million x 1 Year]
Nashville Predators Trade: Dante Fabbro [Unsigned] + Craig Smith [4.25 Million x 2 Years] + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

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Columbus Blue Jackets Acquire: Mark Stone
Ottawa Senators Acquire: Dante Fabbro Craig Smith + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick
Nashville Predators Acquire: Artemi Panarin + Ryan Dzingel

- Ottawa picks up a ton of valuable young pieces, and essentially swaps Dzingel for Smith since Smith has the extra year and could be in play next year.
- Nashville picks up a star caliber player for their top six and a middle six to help them against the Flames, Jets and Sharks: giving them an elite forward core and a chance at the cup this year.
- Columbus essentially swaps Stone for Panarin, and gives up the 2nd to do so since imo, Stone is better than Panarin. However, it is entirely possible that Stone resigns while Panarin does not.

16 Feb 2019 23:05:48
Stone is not better than Panarin in any universe.

17 Feb 2019 00:06:19
Columbus won’t take a chance swapping free agents. If they think they can sign Stone they will wait to do so in the summer. In the meantime, they collect what they can for Panarin. Way too risky to chance ending up with only a 2nd for Panarin.

17 Feb 2019 02:15:08
I'll take stone over bread man every time easily
There is more to the game then points.

17 Feb 2019 13:26:24
Panarin and a 2nd for stone? Laughabl, how many times stone set records for his team? People said panarin was a product of playing with kane and his first year in Columbus set team record for assists and points. And he's not a liability defensively, just doesn't hit, nothing else wrong with his game. Stone is a good player but not the same level.

18 Feb 2019 06:06:37
This is a joke right?

21 Feb 2019 04:04:52
Shootsmcgee your joking right in what universe is stone ever a defencive liability? LMFAO he's literally one of the top 4 to 5 defensive forwards in today's game, something panarin simply is not! Plus his numbers continue to improve every year on a weak team and currently are right there with panarin this year. You can claim it's cause he played with Duchene that his numbers went up but you'd be wrong again as they were on separate lines all season.

16 Feb 2019 17:36:51
WPG: Vesalainen, 1st Round Pick 2019, Harkins
OTT: Stone

Jets lineup:
Connor - Schiefele - Wheeler
Laine - Little - Stone
Perrault - Lowry - Tanev
Ehlers - Copp - Roslovic

16 Feb 2019 18:23:41
I hope the Jets don't trade any combination of Ves, Stanley, Niku, Roslovic and Samberg to get any UFA rental.

16 Feb 2019 19:41:34
Jets don’t need wingers. I know Ehlers isn’t having the strongest year, but is 4th line really the best spot for him?

16 Feb 2019 19:47:09
Wow! You are really coming up with some crazy overpays by the Jets lately.

I know Sens fans are fantasizing about getting that kind of return, but it won't happen.

16 Feb 2019 21:32:46
If a top propsect/ 1st round isn't involved you are not getting a top player as a rental. I legit do not understand why you jets fans can't wrap your finger around this. you aren't getting mark stone for a garbage package.

16 Feb 2019 23:24:20
It's probably because rentals never return a first round pick AND the teams top prospect, this will be no different. Ottawa may get the first, but not our top prospect as well. It's not hard to understand. Stanley, our 1st and Petan, is a pretty good offer. If not, Ottawa can try and get someone else to overpay or let him walk for nothing.

16 Feb 2019 23:27:29
notdelusional Teams that give up too much for a UFA rental will soon be sellers at the trade deadline. Stone is a good player but not worth what some of these trade proposals would have the Jets give up for him.

17 Feb 2019 02:16:48
I can tell you that roslovic is on the table in sens talk I'm not saying he will be part of it Burbank I do know he is in the conversation.

17 Feb 2019 05:12:28
I'm sure Ottawa is asking for Roslovic. There just isn't much of a chance that they will get him.

17 Feb 2019 16:13:24
If you aren’t willing to let go of a first round pick or top prospect then you aren’t getting a top rental in return.

 
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