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20 Jun 2018 05:28:53
OTT: Karlsson
CBJ: Panarin

Both need a new contract in the next coming years.
I know that Panarin would NEVER sign an extention in OTT. but . value wise.


CBJ could go w

Werenski - Jones
Murray - Karlsson
Cole - Nutivaara

and move Savard . or they could even flip Karlsson for a very good Center + , which CBJ is in the market for. (was. idk if they still are w the emergence of Dubois)
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Not likely to happen , but i was very disappointed when Sens gave away Nick Shore . His advanced stats are Veryy good . and with the right linemates Could be a good offensive player.

OTT: Perron, 7th
CGY: Shore
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Sens draft Zadina 4th .

and

Sens draft Merkley 22nd

as a potential replacement for Karl in a couple years time .

Zadina - Duchene - White
Panarin - Shore - Stone
Dzingel - Pageau - Ryan
Chlapik - Brown - Burrows
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idk , let me know what you guys think . late night thoughts . :)

20 Jun 2018 06:02:58
Not terrible but no from Ottawa and I doubt Paniran would resign.

20 Jun 2018 06:25:05
Nice joke lol karlsson at 2nd pair defence is hilarious seeing as how he's 3rd best player in the world an neither Jones nor werenski are number 1 or 2 lol.

20 Jun 2018 06:31:55
Karlsson on 2nd pair? Oh boy

20 Jun 2018 02:56:20
senators acquire: boedker, bergman, 6th
san jose acquire: donaghey, 5th, 2nd, 4th, 5th
florida aqcuire: hoffman

who won the deal overall? thoughts? (i know it wasn't a 3 way deal, but that was the final result of the deal.

20 Jun 2018 03:17:06
Not Rambo.

20 Jun 2018 03:23:21
not sens -. -.

20 Jun 2018 03:25:25
SAN Jose. They are setting up to go afterTavares. Isles better get it done soon.

20 Jun 2018 03:53:37
Florida wins, San Jose 2nd, every other team that wasn't apart of the trade third, than Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 04:42:13
I really am dying to hear what Rambo has to say. He was so sure we were all nut jobs and were way off on Hoffman’s value. Lol.

20 Jun 2018 04:56:58
Rambo commented on a rumour on the last page. Saying Duchene is worth more than the 3rd overall but is untouchable unless tavares is going to Ottawa lol because he would leave NYI to go to Ottawa, right? Haha so he’s still alive and online, just not responding to Hoffman items.

20 Jun 2018 07:32:11
i don't understand why people say unbelievable to confirmed trades.

19 Jun 2018 17:54:32
Ottawa: Mark Stone

Calargry: Sam Bennet, Jusso Valimaki And Tyler Parsons

Ottawa- gets young nhl player who at worst is a solid 3c but has potential to develope into an upper tier 2c. A top defender prospect and a top goalie prospect. + they trade him outside of the conference

Calargry-it's only a matter of time before Stone asks for a trade so Calargry has leverage but they still need to put bid every other team. Stone brings in exactly what they need in an Elite RW to Compliment Guadreau and Mohnahan.

19 Jun 2018 18:32:13
The fact you spelt Calgary wrong just is unsettling.

19 Jun 2018 18:32:41
As for the trade Ottawa rejects.

19 Jun 2018 19:25:34
Lol probably should’ve checked the Spelling and isn’t Stone exactly what they’re looking for why would they reject.

19 Jun 2018 19:40:36
Big no from ottawa.

19 Jun 2018 21:57:48
If they trade Karlsson which I think they will and should, I think Stone should get the C in Ottawa. One of the most undervalued players in the league.

20 Jun 2018 00:35:14
Yup you think Stone is willing to stay long term? Highly don’t he’s willing to commit in Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 00:38:04
Yes that’s what calgary needs but Ottawa doesn’t want that for a return!

19 Jun 2018 14:31:00
MON: 3rd Overall Pick 2018
OTT: Duschene

19 Jun 2018 14:36:12
It's rumoured Montreal is looked in on Kotkaneimi now and are prepared to take him at 3 if they don't trade down a few spots.

19 Jun 2018 21:04:54
They won't get Duchene for the 3rd unless ottawa has a deal locked in to sign Tavares to replace him. pageau is not a number 1 center.

20 Jun 2018 04:53:30
Haha tavares signing in Ottawa? Rambo, that’s dumber than you saying hoffman would get a top 10 pick and prospect lol Ottawa’s best players are jumping ship, the team is bad, managers are molesting teenagers on work trips lol figure it out man, it’s a sinking ship and JT is not spending his prime trying to keep another organization afloat.

19 Jun 2018 13:13:32
Sens - boedker, B- prospect, 6th rd

Sharks - Hoffman, D+ prospect, 5th rd

So Rambo, where’s the top 10 pick and top prospect? And where’s the Sens fans saying the Drama with his fiancé doesn’t affect his value?

Hard to believe they didn’t get offered more at the deadline when they apparently kept him because offers weren’t good enough.

19 Jun 2018 13:43:16
I tried telling them he lost all value and they didn't listen.

19 Jun 2018 13:44:29
Also yeah in sure at the deadline they had way better offers, just another terrible mistep by the Sens organization, they knew about this issue and waited for it to come out and Hoff to lose all value.

19 Jun 2018 14:35:08
There is 2 ways to look at the not enough at the trade deadline aspect IMO
1) They knew about the stuff happening behind the scene and miss managed the trade thinking it wouldn't come out to the public.
2) Didn't know about it (IDK if it's been conformed that the organization knew or not) and did the logical thing and not rush the trade on a player with term and wait for the best deal.

19 Jun 2018 14:37:30
Crazy good pick up for the Sharks. Along with Kane. And I heard they still aren't done. Good for them.
Hoffman = Boadker. Who knew! 🙈🙊.

19 Jun 2018 14:51:35
Not much of a return but problem players usually don't get much value. I will say this in Ottawa defence julius Bergman is player I really liked in his draft year. He has been inconsistent so far but he still has potential for sure. could be a decent pick up plays a solid all around game when he's on.

19 Jun 2018 14:53:00
That should close the mouth for a while. Unless, because Rambo watches the sport, this Julius Bergman prospect Ottawa got is the next Bobby Orr.

19 Jun 2018 14:57:35
Also at the deadline he may not have had much more value because if this scandal was known to be happening by Sens management I think they would have had to tell other gms about it then too. This was going on for awhile so just because most of us only found out recently it' probably was known by Sens management for close to a year now. Plus Hoffman always had issues even dating back to his junior days.

19 Jun 2018 14:57:45
C’mon habby, Rambo was supposed to say that. Boedker will probably be flipped for Draisaitl, Klefbom and a 1st so it could still work out.

19 Jun 2018 15:41:42
I suspect Rambo will be in hiding for some time after this latest blunder.

The human mind can only tolerate so much embarassment.

19 Jun 2018 15:43:28
Don't worry leafs17 I wouldn't claim he's going to turn into much but he did at least have the potential a few years ago.

19 Jun 2018 15:52:44
Sharks flipped hoffman for 3 picks, freed up a forward roster spot and $4 mill when all said and done. Precursor for a Tavares pitch?!

19 Jun 2018 19:46:15
Damn. I thought it might affect trade value a little bit. Not completely destroy it. veerrrrryyyy weak return. I don't understand why we couldn't wait for a better offer? Or even until FA when people like jvr and nash are signed and off the market. Even worse that they immediately flipped him for a better return. Ahh well guess i got to change my name now . :/.

19 Jun 2018 21:03:22
It had to affect his value a lot. You got to think that superstars are atleast consulted when trades are made. If Edmonton was in on hoffman (which they were at one point) and he’s going to be mcdavid a winger, they are asking mcdavid what he thinks. You think mcdavid wants to expose his gf and other players wives to the idiot that comes along with him? Not a chance. That’s oilers out, then same in another city and eventually the market is half the size, price is down. If it was Just her word vs Karlsson, then okay, but when all other wives (turris, Hammond etc) confirm it’s been going on for months to the point they didn’t wanna be there anymore, I’m fine believing it’s all true.

19 Jun 2018 21:06:01
Haha yeah Hoff it might be time for a name change.

But Kudos to you for coming online today. Rambo is probably in the fetal position crying under his bed, too proud to admit he was way off on valuation.

Hoffman clearly had to go. It's best that Ottawa cut ties without delay, even for a non-remarkable return.

19 Jun 2018 21:13:35
They should have got a much better return or at least have moved gaborik contract but Dorian has even less common sense than any of you on here. worst gm in sens history by a land slide. if he's not fired soon sens will be completely destroyed in 2 to 3 more seasons. he's easily the absolute worst gm in the league and I doubt many will argue that.

19 Jun 2018 22:47:37
Why is it everyone else with no common sense Rambo? It seems you were the one without a clue, even though you watch the sport.

19 Jun 2018 04:06:34
to Ottawa
3rd overall
3rd rounder
5th rounder

to Montreal
4th overall
2nd rounder

Montreal really wants someone below Zadina so it makes sense to move down so someone el.

19 Jun 2018 04:20:17
whoops didn't finish that but yall get the picture.

19 Jun 2018 06:18:40
Don’t know why Montreal does that.

19 Jun 2018 14:37:54
i don't get why teams trade down to get a player rather than just selecting the player with their higher pick?

19 Jun 2018 21:16:10
Because other teams don't want same player who will be available later anyway so why not move down a bit to aquire more picks? Is that really hard for you to understand?

19 Jun 2018 01:58:22
Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Colorado: Connor Timmons, 17th overall and Ottawa's 2019 1st

Ottawa- gets there pick back next year so they can push forward with a full rebuild and Connor Timmons looks like he is going to be the steal of the draft he took the heaviest work load on the U20 Canadian World Junior team and looked better then Makar. Colorado probably dosent want to trade him but in order to get the best dman in the NHL that's probably the price

Colorado- they have cap space to resign Karlsson and they looked good already in the playoffs Karlsson could but then over the top.

Bonus:

Edmonton: Lucic and 10th overall

Ottawa: Hoffman

Hoffman-Drais-Pulj

19 Jun 2018 06:20:07
Lol who said Hoffman has that much value anymore nah.

19 Jun 2018 06:20:28
Could get for better deal I bet Ottawa has zero leverage he’s got to go.

19 Jun 2018 14:40:47
i'd do the karlsson deal, though i'm sure they could get more?

19 Jun 2018 15:07:27
McJesus I’ll start off by saying Hoffman was traded for dirt but that trade would rid EDM of a hideous contract while giving them a consistent 25 goal scorer. This would’ve helped EDM Lucic needs to go and he’ll be hard to move.

18 Jun 2018 17:35:28
Ottawa:
Alex Tuch
Shea Theodore
Nick Hague
Vegas 2nd round pick this year

Vegas:
Erik Karlsson (verbal agreement he signs long term)

18 Jun 2018 17:47:24
If Ottawa doesn’t take that then wow.

18 Jun 2018 21:15:52
That's a very average deal tbh. Theodore is a top 4 defenceman, Alex Tuch is barely a top 6 forward, Hague is an unproven prospect and you add a very very late second for Erik karlsson, 2 time norris winner, franchise defenceman and in his prime (and signed long term). The colin miller proposal is much better

19 Jun 2018 11:24:02
Not a chance.

18 Jun 2018 03:15:03
To CHI
Hoffman
Rights to RFA Claesson

To OTT
8th overall

Chicago gets to go for cup again. Draft won’t help with their age, , Hoffman does and they can use cheap, reliable young D.

Ottawa gets Zadina at 4 and Walhstrom at 8 and has rebuilt. Sign Wideman and EK.

Everyone’s happy! . Except Montreal who has Domi instead of Gally.

18 Jun 2018 15:04:00
That dosent get 8th overall.

19 Jun 2018 11:25:50
It definitely does get at least 8th overall vbbvbb.

18 Jun 2018 02:35:30
OTT:
Karlsson
Ryan


EDM:
Yamamoto
Lucic
Klefbom
2018 1st

Ott:
Hoffman
22nd overall

Van:
7th

18 Jun 2018 19:40:47
Even without your name I can tell your a Sens fan, god no from Vancouver lmao, that’s horrible. Benning may not be the best GM out there but if you want a trade that lopsided go talk to MTL.

18 Jun 2018 22:20:50
Before the scandal last week I would say that Vancouver deal would be pretty close. not now though.

19 Jun 2018 11:32:47
No to both from ottawa take out the 22nd in van trade then yes.

Edm trade nowhere close karlsson gets more than 10th overall an unknown prospect and 2 bums. Try something more like.

Nuge, nurse, puliarvi, and their 2018 1st for karlsson (verbal agreement to sign with oilers), Ryan, batherson

That's a lot closer to a real EK offer.

17 Jun 2018 15:28:47
To OTT:
• Dylan Strome
• 5th Overall
• Jakob Chychrun
To ARI:
• Erik Karlsson

To CGY:
• Christian Fischer
• (2018) 3rd Round Pick
To ARI:
• Sam Bennett

To VAN:
• 55th Overall
• 65th Overall
• Nick Merkley
To ARI:
• Chris Tanev

To EDM:
• Jason Demers
• Brendan Perlini
To ARI:
• Milan Lucic
• 10th Overall

Free Agent Signings:
• James Van Riemsdyk 6M x 4YR
• Michael Grabner 2M x 1YR

Coyotes Line-Up

James van Riemsdyk - Derek Stepan - Clayton Keller
Richard Panik - Alex Galchenyuk - Nick Cousins
Milan Lucic - Sam Bennett - Michael Grabner
Josh Archibald - Marcus Kruger - Zac Rinaldo

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Erik Karlsson
Kevin Connauton - Chris Tanev
Trevor Murphy - Alex Goligoski

17 Jun 2018 16:00:36
First trade- I feel you maybe have the value but it just doesn’t feel to me like it would go ahead

Second trade- not happen Calgary won’t trade Bennett even if they do i'd say they’d ask for more

Third trade- yes I agree with that trade though it would be better if Tanev is younger the 30 but I still agree

Fourth trade- again I agree coyotes get power with Lucic and the 10th pick and Edmonton got their defensive man and they did want to trade the 10th pick

With the signings- their always up in the air but I agree with the jvr helps any teams 2nd or 1st line
Grabner - I don’t know he’s a good player but yeah he’s add experience to the coyotes.

17 Jun 2018 17:03:37
Karlsson to a rebuilding Coyotes make zero sense.

17 Jun 2018 17:35:06
Demers would be a really good contract to take back in a Lucic trade. 4.5 million for 3 more years. At 10 there’ll be a really good player and unless they think Perlini will have a breakout season it’s a slight overpayment IMO.

17 Jun 2018 19:04:02
I think that Demers and Perlini is overpayment for Lucic and the 10th. Lucic is negative value while Demers isn't as yet, and could actually be decent on Edmonton, albeit a bit overpaid, but vastly less than Lucic. I'd think something would need to be added from Edmonton.

17 Jun 2018 20:07:00
I know a draft pick is unpredictable for the most part but what if the 10th was Sergachev, Trouba, McAvoy or someone of that caliber? I know the 10th doesn’t have that value but from what I’ve read the top 10 will be really good players.
Also say the Oil retained 1 million of Lucics contract, (I know 5 years is a long time and they probably wouldn’t do it) do you think the contracts would look to be about the same value? Lucic has clearly been the better player throughout his career while not putting up crazy high offensive numbers. If he can bounce back to a 45 point guy, he’ll have teams wanting him I think.

17 Jun 2018 21:53:06
Actually it makes great sense EK to totes makes perfect sense. they have the value needed in young assets to aquire him and his interest should see him wanting to go there as they have been making strides in recent years to get better from getting stepan and company last year and now with Galchenyuk trade plus he's get a chance to pair up with his buddy from Sweden oel.

17 Jun 2018 15:27:54
OTT: Erik Karlsson (Verbal Agreement to resign with the Coyotes before July 1st)

ARI: Dylan Strome, 5th Overall & Jakob Chychrun

Arizona Coyotes Projected Line-Up 2018/19

Richard Panik - Derek Stepan - Clayton Keller
Brendan Perlini - Alex Galchenyuk - Christian Fischer
Josh Archibald - Marcus Kruger - Nick Cousins
Laurent Dauphin - Brad Richardson - Zac Rinaldo

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Erik Karlsson
Kevin Connauton - Jason Demers
Trevor Murphy - Alex Goligoski

17 Jun 2018 16:02:36
Those players haven’t made a name for themselves to get a star like Karlsson so it just a 5th overall for him basically.

17 Jun 2018 17:04:17
No from Arizona Karlsson dosent make them a Contender.

17 Jun 2018 21:55:05
Why doesn't he? Top defenceman in the world on a team that has made improvements already.

18 Jun 2018 02:13:35
jeez. i'd take that . don't think Arizona would though. if they draft Wahlstrom, watch out for Arizona's future first line of

Keller - Strome - Wahlstrom.

17 Jun 2018 15:23:54
To Calgary - 4th overall pick 2018, Bobby Ryan

To Ottawa - Dougie Hamilton, Sam Bennett, Micheal Stone, Oliver Kylington, Dillon Dube

Calgary drafts Brady Tkachuk, and takes on Bobby Ryan Salary.

Ottawa gets replacement for Erik Karlsson or D partner to leverage staying in Ottawa with Hamilton. Also Mark Stone gets his brother on the same team and encourages him to stick around as well. Two solid prospects in Kylington and Dube.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ryan
M Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
B Tkachuk - Jankowski - Foo
Mangiapane/Hathaway - Shore/Phillips - Ferland/Gawdin

Giordano - Brodie
Andersson - Hamonic
Valimaki - Kulak

17 Jun 2018 17:05:28
Way to much from Calargry. Hamilton is close to the 4th overall value wise.

17 Jun 2018 17:16:43
Switch Hamilton with Brodie and then add a 2019 mid round draft pick from the flames. Then it’s closer.

17 Jun 2018 18:11:04
This is bad hahahaha.

17 Jun 2018 22:39:40
No from Calgary and switching Hamilton to Brodie makes it a no from ottawa. the 4th would have a much bigger impact than any of the others in this deal it's just bad all around.

17 Jun 2018 15:13:01
To Ottawa Senators
• (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi
• (C) Kailer Yamamoto
• 2018 10TH Overall Selection
• (LW) Milan Lucic

To Edmonton Oilers
• (D) Erik Karlsson (verbal agreement to resign before July 1st)

Then Ottawa sends Hoffman to Arizona for Max Domi + 2nd Round Pick.


Edmonton Oilers Defence -

Darnell Nurse - Erik Karlsson
Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson
Andrej Sekera - Kris Russell

Ottawa Senators Top 9 -

Kailer Yamamoto - Matt Duchene - Mark Stone
Max Domi - Jean Pageau - Jesse Puljujärvi
Milan Lucic - Zack Smith - Bobby Ryan

17 Jun 2018 17:08:39
I like the EDM-Ott trade but Arizona dosent have Domi.

16 Jun 2018 15:52:02
COL:
Karlsson,

OTT:
1st 2018/19(OTT depending which pick they take),
1st 2019 (COL),
Makar/Barrie

16 Jun 2018 17:58:28
Huge no from Colorado. Makar will not be moved.

16 Jun 2018 18:30:40
No from avs.

16 Jun 2018 19:54:09
Man. I would 100% take that . that's interesting .

17 Jun 2018 15:26:49
not a huge no both no for makar pretty sure.

17 Jun 2018 21:51:01
We'll find out soon enough.

18 Jun 2018 11:44:25
What has makar done? If anything col adds Girard on top and it's a deal.

15 Jun 2018 20:52:17
OTT: Hoffman, 22nd ovr
CHI: Hossa, 8th ovr

Chicago clears a small amount of cap space but actually gets some use out of it. Could even flip him.

Ottawa gets two top 10 picks and takes on cap space, but only has to pay an actual salary of 200k to Hossa.

16 Jun 2018 00:10:38
Hossa is on LTIR he has no cap hit.

16 Jun 2018 03:06:38
They can clear cap space by placing him in on ltir.

16 Jun 2018 12:02:33
hoffman > hossa at this point, it's better to have someone that can actually help. i understand that point.
8th overall > 22nd overall.
i highly highly doubt chicago would move down that far, especially out of top 10, just to save cap space that they could just clear by using LITR instead. Even if both were playing i don't see the difference between hossa and hoffman to be that great to justify moving down 14 spots outside of top 10.

17 Jun 2018 15:22:42
no from ottawa

15 Jun 2018 19:23:32
Ottawa Senators:

- Nick Suzuki

- Erik Brannstrom

- 61st overall pick

- Tomas Tatar

Vegas Golden Knights:

- Bobby Ryan

- Erik Karlsson (rights)

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This deal helps Ottawa a lot.
They get a good centre, who should immediately be better than Logan Brown.
An offence-first defenceman in Erik Brannstrom who has a similar playing style as EK.
They get rid of the terrible Bobby Ryan Contract.
Tatar is still a good forward, just didn't work out in Vegas.
Vegas has the salary to sign EK, keep Bobby Ryan and still resign their players.

15 Jun 2018 19:31:49
Just for the rights to EK Vegas better be guaranteed he will sign or that’s a lot of loss for them.

15 Jun 2018 21:13:09
Who's this special center you speak of? Looks like a bunch of throwaways to me.

15 Jun 2018 21:17:20
Also you are trading for Karlsson, not his rights. He’s not a FA this summer, but next. So you have the year. Regardless I would think they want to be sure he’s sticking around longer if they’re trading 2 of 3 first rounders from last year. That will make them better today but really hurts a very shallow pipeline. Most teams have 3 or 4 years of former 1st rounders about to make an impact, Vegas has 1 years worth.

16 Jun 2018 16:58:39
@Ramo

Hoffman looks like a nice throw away too. Same with the entire Sens team besides EK.

16 Jun 2018 18:05:19
Stone is really good too, but he'll probably demand a trade to escape Melnyk's circus.

17 Jun 2018 02:20:42
You're right top shelf but don't go get to add mcdavid Crosby doughty Matthews etc to that list lol.

17 Jun 2018 15:16:02
if he is signed that's not enough ottawa shouldn't trade EK with bobby ryan and Ottawa have no interest in tatar and 3rd round picks or brannstrom.

17 Jun 2018 22:46:01
Ottawa should have no interest in anything vegas related.

15 Jun 2018 07:42:19
#1
To Toronto Maple Leafs
• Dougie Hamilton
• Sam Bennett
To Calgary Flames
• William Nylander
• 25th Overall Pick
• Connor Brown

#2

To Toronto Maple Leafs
• Mike Hoffman (guessing his value dropped a bit)
To Ottawa Senators
• Kasperi Kapanen
• 2nd Round Pick
• Joffrey Lupul

Resign James Van Riemsdyk and sign Calvin De Haan & Michael Grabner.

Mike Hoffman - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
James Van Riemsdyk - Sam Bennett - Zack Hyman
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Michael Grabner

Morgan Rielly - Dougie Hamilton
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Calvin De Haan - Ron Hainsey

15 Jun 2018 07:59:07
And what about the salary cap?

15 Jun 2018 08:51:49
I like the first deal but the leafs don’t need drama. Send Hoffman somewhere else. Kapanen is good and cheap. If given a chance in the top 6, I think he’ll be much better.

15 Jun 2018 11:07:09
Too lazy to check but I think Lupul's contract expired this season.

15 Jun 2018 11:21:25
Hahahahahahahaha I can't contain myself that trade is so bad lol please post another troll trade.

15 Jun 2018 12:51:50
Kappanen has more value then Hoffman. He’s the new E. Kane but older and worse defensively. What did E. Kane get? 2nd round pick.

15 Jun 2018 14:39:49
I think evander Kane got a 1st, 3rd (or 4th maybe) ans a prospect, but the first was conditional on him signing in San Jose which he did.

15 Jun 2018 16:05:28
That's how everyone else feels when you post Rambo!

Look at the joy you bring to the world. Kudos.

15 Jun 2018 16:52:15
Kapanen more value than Hoffman vbbvbb? Rofl in what world? And if any player in the league has negative value pupil is on of them. unlike Ryan lupuls contract is a lot more than a 2 million overpayment and he's never healthy and never produces.

15 Jun 2018 17:08:10
He hasn’t played in 2 years lol he’s retired Rambo. I would hope Ryan puts up more points haha.

15 Jun 2018 17:34:31
Refusing to be outdone, Rambo steals back the duncecap of ignorance by asserting that:

1. Lupul was still active in the NHL
2. Lupul has negative value because his contract (which ended this year) was too high (despite being on LTIR and not counting towards the salary cap.

You are a marvel.

15 Jun 2018 18:19:01
@unsportsmanlike, in all fairness, Rambo was right about one thing he said. “Lupul never produces”. That is as accurate a statement as I’ve ever seen on here lol.

15 Jun 2018 18:31:08
And while he was playing for Toronto he played 280 games with 88goals and 182 pts. That’s good for a .31 goals per game and a .65 pts per game. Mike Hoffman’s career with Ottawa is the exact same goals/ game at .31 and a .67 pts/ game.

So if lupul never produced, and has virtually identical numbers to Hoffman over the last 5 years of their career, what does that make him? Unless that .02 pts per game is the difference between a plug and a good player in your eyes lol.

16 Jun 2018 00:17:50
You are right it was a conditional 1st was thought to be a 2nd.

17 Jun 2018 15:13:52
I don't get why Toronto would trade a good young cost controlled top6/ 9 forward whos only getting better for a good top 6 winger whos cap is going to get higher ( salary bump for next contract) and stats are going to get worst. Nevermind adding the second rd pick.

15 Jun 2018 00:11:20
Unlikely Scenario, but considering EK most likely wants out of OTT. what if.

Erik Karlsson to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Drew Doughty.

Maybe picks and prospects added in; maybe Rieder, Ladue + 2nd goes to Ottawa while Dzingel + Harpur go to LA. or something like that? I'd assume EK has more value than Doughty tho.

This is simply because finding a suitable trading partner for EK is hard. And finding a suitable trade for EK is also hard; if Ottawa is getting 'pieces' back, and not a 'star', they're losing the trade, plain and simple.

As for this, its simply that EK wants out of Ottawa, and Ottawa needs a completely fresh look, and Doughty could help with that,

For LA, after a couple years of failure, I would have to think they need a shakeup: losing to the Sharks, expansion Knights and not making the playoffs does such. Trading away their best player for an equal talent shakes the dynamic of the team, and may help to make LA a more offensive team, compared to the defensive style they played w Doughty.

And both players have 1 year term left, so that balances too.

15 Jun 2018 06:38:04
I’m not sure If Doughty has any say in if he gets traded or not but there is 0% chance he will welcome a trade going to Ottawa. However if he doesn’t have any NMC well then sucks for him because i'm sure Kings take a good look if they can get EK.

15 Jun 2018 11:26:20
Even just doughty and a 2nd rounder for karlsson and a 4th rounder i could live with.

Mcjesus why wouldn't doughty want to come home to Canada? Pretty dumb comment.

15 Jun 2018 14:36:39
Because Ottawa is the worst Franchise in the nhl and belongs in the KHL.

15 Jun 2018 16:16:35
Why would Doughty not want to come to Ottawa? Are you that obtuse man?

The Senators are a raging dumpster fire at the moment. The owner is a cheapskate and consistently mettles in the operations to the detriment of the team. There are MULTIPLE scandals surrounding the team that are not going away anytime soon. The team is going to be hot garbgae next year and as it currently stands, will not have their own first round pick. They are the league's doormat.

Is Ottawa a nice place to live? Sure. Would any player looking for a chance to win in the near future want to play there? No. They are a joke.

15 Jun 2018 16:59:35
If MELNICK was as cheap Ryan wouldn't be making 7.25 right now and alfie and Heatley spezza wouldn't have gotten the contracts they did. that's just hear say. he's just a spoiled rich guy who acts like a fool and hired the wrong replacement for murray. Hoffman will likely be traded. Randy Lee if found guilty will be fired. drama gone.

They are far from worst team in league carolina has those rights atm.

15 Jun 2018 17:43:50
Lol um I’m not even going to answer why Doughty wouldn’t wanna play for Ottawa lol.

17 Jun 2018 15:14:05
He never said he wouodnt wanna come to Canada. He precised Ottawa. And i don't blame him I live in Ottawa and want out lol.

17 Jun 2018 22:53:07
When exactly did this happen colt66?

Because you don't have an answer mcbs.

14 Jun 2018 20:57:41
Dependant on Karlsson wanting to resign long-term in Edmonton.

Ottawa:
RD - Erik Karlsson $6.50

Edmonton:
C - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins $6.00
LW - Milan Lucic $6.00
RW - Jesse Puljujarvi $0.925
LW - Tyler Benson $0.808
1st Round Draft Pick 2018 (10)

14 Jun 2018 21:07:24
Lmfao bruh.

14 Jun 2018 22:08:40
Big overpayment IMO.

14 Jun 2018 22:16:55
Not too bad tbh, if that's for EK resigned. Lucic negates a good amount of value with no retention imo, basically negates less value than Pul; then RNH, Benson, 10 and a little value for Pulj for EK.

TBH, its not that bad.
And I’m just saying, remember when Chicago dumped Bickell? It cost them Teuvo, a 50@60 point winger now. Pulj probabky has a bit more value than Teuvo did at that time, but Lucics contract is far longer than Bickells at the time. sure he's more servicable but in the future he could actually become Bickell 2.0. So tbh, saying Lucic at full cap negates most of Puljs value isn’t an overstatement.

15 Jun 2018 11:30:54
You forgot to add Ryan and maybe batherson to even it back out. the rest of the trade is good but no way ottawa takes on another bad contract without dumping a big one of their own. so it's either add batherson and Ryan or just add gaborik.

 
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