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11 Nov 2018 01:38:22
Mtl:Juulsen,Suzuki

Canucks:Juolevi,Gaudette

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11 Nov 2018 03:50:16
Boom Boom, I can't tell If your serious or trolling.
If you are serious, can you explain the logic behind this? Cause IMO . no friggin way.

11 Nov 2018 04:25:42
@ Sosa he just wants the habs to aquire every Finnish player they can.

11 Nov 2018 10:12:17
For some reason I thought you were a Habs fan, Then last week I thought you were a Canuks fan.
Who is your team Boom?
Isn't this bad for the Habs?

11 Nov 2018 13:08:50
I'm the biggest hand fan they is for clarification. I guess I value Juolevi very high. My taught prowess was

Juolevi>Juulsen

Suzuki>Gaudette
And no I'm not trolling I was very serious about this proposal. I tought Gaudette had a lot less value to suzuki and same with Juolevi to Juulsen. What am I missing guys? Seriously am I that way off?

11 Nov 2018 13:11:04
My team is Montreal and my second favorite is Buffalo.

11 Nov 2018 14:32:55
It's not that your value is off as much as it's pretty pointless for either team to make this trade.

11 Nov 2018 15:25:30
I don't think Juolevi is going to be all that great. Gaudette as well. I like Juulsen, I think he's going to have a really good all around game, not as offensive, but still capable of being a 2nd PP unit. he's going to be a top 4 forsure. and I think his ceiling could be a number 2 on a top pair.
Suzuki has a lot o promise as well. I don't know much about his defensive side to his game, however he has good offensive skill., and with KK looking like a future number 1 . he could be a good number 2. and finally the Habs have there center position set for awhile. ( in the future)
I just don't see why Habs would do this.

11 Nov 2018 16:01:14
I think Vancouver adds here. Joulevi has been more Underwhelming then Puljujarvi.

11 Nov 2018 16:21:00
Lol. Leafs fans always got to bring up Oilers comparisons in posts that have nothing to do with Edm. Try finding other comparisons for once boys, they're a out there. Just give it a try is all in saying, I believe in you. Don't be offended, I'm so sorry.

And Boom I hair ask because it seems lots of Habs fans on here really like Juulsen and Suzuki and are excited about them so you just kinda threw me off. As well as Joulevi not looking like anything special just yet, still very young and D take a little more time to break out, but just haven't seen much from him. But maybe you have noticed something in him that you like.

11 Nov 2018 17:12:26
I honestly see why he was drafted before Sergachev in terms of how he plays the game he could be a star imo. Obviously Sergachev is much better an proven at nhl level but I think Joulevi will be a better defensemen then Juulsen ever will be and Gaudette is also more proven as center then Suzuki so it work for mtl. And we add another finish player will is good because were going to be the Montreal Finish.

11 Nov 2018 17:58:07
Ones a 4th overall pick the others a 5th 1 year apart both are a underachieving. The comparison is warranted.

11 Nov 2018 18:04:44
@yupp, the top 7 players from that draft are Matthews, laine, Dubois, puli, juolevi, tkachuk and Keller. Saying he’s less proven than all of them is obvious, puli is the next closest to juolevi in terms of not living up to the hype in that group. That’s all he meant by it I’m pretty sure. Talk about offended lol next time he can put a side note in that puli has also been better than alex Nylander if it will please you.

11 Nov 2018 18:25:28
I'm not offended what so ever there, how did you get that out of my comment man? Just getting old always talking about the Leafs and Oilers in every post.

11 Nov 2018 18:31:19
😩😭poor yupper.

11 Nov 2018 18:16:14
Joulevi been progressing every year jesse p hasn't joulevi has 11 points in 14 games in ahl that pretty good and probably would be playing in nhl if canucks didn't have so many d contracts.

11 Nov 2018 19:58:11
You really don't understand tone hey Leafs17?
I'm trying to be better with bashing and just stick to actual decent on topic hockey conversation but no matter what I say someone takes it as bashing and is offended by it.
You have to take things as I say it, seems like whatever I say you think the tone is bashing you or something. Just relax a little and keep to on topic hockey conversation for a little would ya buddy?

11 Nov 2018 21:24:53
I totally understand not wanting to talk about the leafs and oilers in every post. When you say don’t be offended and I’m so sorry, it’s your same childish stuff. Does that make sense buddy?

11 Nov 2018 23:37:40
It's not childish at all. It's actually been on repeat non stop by you, no matter what I say you take it some crazy way and go off. You need understand tone and relax a little. Not everything I say is bashing you. If I'm going to
Bash you, Trust me, you'll know.

12 Nov 2018 03:29:47
Nope, just with the I’m sorry and don’t be offended. Go back and take a look how often you use that without being provoked. “Trust me, you’ll know. ” Ouch! Those are some tough words, you should try boxing like Jim suggested.

12 Nov 2018 05:19:25
@yupp, maybe you really don’t mean to bash people every post but 90% of your replies over the last year have been sarcastic, condescending or putting people down. So that ‘tone’ you think we keep reading your posts with, has been instilled by you over and over again. If you're not meaning it now, sorry, but it’s been that way for so long, that’s what I read every time.

12 Nov 2018 14:27:31
Your problem not mine. Get over it.
Give it a try moving forward.

12 Nov 2018 14:30:04
When I'm being sarcastic, You'll know.
When I'm trashing someone for being delusional, you'll know.
When it's just hockey talk and you take something completely out of context, misinterpret the tone, whine and bring up ten things non relevant to the topic, that's your problem. Just chill.

12 Nov 2018 14:35:42
And yes, just as often as any leafs fan brings oilers into a conversation, you take an unprovoked shot with the “fun to watch tho” or “whiner leaf fans” or “offended, so so sorry” on a post that no leaf fan has even commented on yet, so yeah it’s a 2 way street.

12 Nov 2018 14:41:00
On the other Talk page, you asked a direct question to me about Nylander sitting out, said it was an honest question, I answered it sincerely with a proper answer, never gave you any attitude or anything, and then you just abandon the thread because I gave you nothing to fight against lol it’s like you were wanting me to be a dick about it and when I wasn’t your “honest question, no trashing” was all of the sudden a non factor. It’s so obvious that you’re still just fishing for arguments and then claiming we take it out of context.

12 Nov 2018 17:20:15
No, because I disagree with you on that and think it's very bad for a player to sit out a season, you just don't see it very often. and no matter what I say you'll turn into an argument just like you and Habby going at it on another one.

If an Oiler was to sit out a season you would be relentless on it. Don't you get it, I'm sick of arguing about anything I say with you. I don't even want to reply to you on this thread anymore. It's non stop. You're the one poking the bear here wanting to keep. Going and going.

12 Nov 2018 17:55:23
You completely misinterpreted again there. If I was looking for arguments I would have bashed you there as I disagree with you. But I'm sick of going back and fourth so I just left it alone. I was only curious about your view on that topic, that's it, not interested in arguing about it.

12 Nov 2018 22:32:44
It’s fine you disagree with me. You think it’s dumb for a GM to play hard ball and let player to sit out a season. I think it’s dumb to overpay an RFA just to get a situation over with when you h e 8 RFAs coming up this offseason including 3 Of your top 6 forwards. That is asking to be walked over again and again.

13 Nov 2018 00:29:49
It doesn't come down to the GM being smart or dumb. He needs to get the players signed as cheap as he can if not he's going to lose at least one of them because of the cap. I doubt it has much if any affect on the other 8 rfas their agents we'll ask for what they think the player deserves regardless.

13 Nov 2018 04:54:53
@Habby, it’s been said a lot that Nylanders camp is asking so much because they fear they will sign for less than they want and then Matthews and Marner won’t leave any money on the table. So I do believe that they are going to use eachothers contracts and therefore what happens with Nylander can affect the other RFAs.

Also when we were talking about the draisatl contract, you and yupp both said that he got that much money because it was compared to Mcdavids, and that Pasternak should have got more but they wouldn’t pay him more than Bergeron or Marchand. So in those situations it’s all team comparables but not now? Why not? I’m pretty sure I know why not lol.

13 Nov 2018 10:10:24
I didn't say that. Ya better check again.

13 Nov 2018 12:41:33
Not understanding what people say yet again.

13 Nov 2018 12:51:54
Yeah you did lol him and I were talking about it, you chimed in wirh that and then he took up that as his argument too. If you want to deny it now, you can. But we both know you did and so does anyone else that read that thread. But whatever, same rules don’t apply when you guys talk about leafs manager/ player as with Edmonton, Boston or anyone else and both of you are the first guys to call ‘hater! ’ Lol just more hypocrisy.

13 Nov 2018 17:56:27
What happens with your first RFA of 9 won’t arrecr the other 8 lol that’s as short sighted as it gets.

10 Nov 2018 22:32:32
Tor- Nylander
Min- Dumba

Give the team some time to fill the void from within, kapanan or browny or johnsson. If they can't, then put together a package for Mark Stone.

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11 Nov 2018 08:28:55
Leafs add quite a bit.

11 Nov 2018 11:30:00
What do the Leafs need to add and why?

11 Nov 2018 13:39:38
Nylander>Anyone on the Minnesota roster.

11 Nov 2018 16:00:52
I'd do it, if nylander isn't going to resign any time soon might as well get what you can for him. dumba would be a good top 2 or top 4 addition for leafs.

12 Nov 2018 14:40:36
Do I really need to explain why TOR adds to get a #1D?
December inching closer doesn't really help TORs leverage either, btw.

12 Nov 2018 15:24:25
Fair enough. Although who on the Minnesota roster can put up points like Nylander? Nylander is what 23 years old? They could give him his 7-7.5 mill per year and instead of being number 5-6 best player on Toronto, be one of the top 2-3 on Minnesota. got to give to get, fills both teams needs without each team losing to much.
It'd be mirroring the Hall for Larson trade, although Larson didn't work out as well as once thought.

12 Nov 2018 17:58:26
But Larson is actually just what they thought they were getting and wanted. He's doing the shutdown solid D man job he was brought in to do just fine. He hasn't been underachieving in his role what so ever. Not saying it was a win trade for Edm at all or anything about that pet of it, just saying that Larsson is doing exactly what they expected from him.

13 Nov 2018 09:50:25
Hall is def better than Nylander tho, he's the reigning Hart winner, no?
Dumba won't go to TOR unless TOR substantially adds to Nylander, imo
You are right that it fits both teams needs, but I guess Brodin would be the D TOR gets in such a deal.

10 Nov 2018 21:02:41
Toronto sends
W. Nylander
N. Kadri
J. Gardener
J. Leivo

Winnipeg sends
M. Scheifele
J. Trouba

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10 Nov 2018 21:48:21
Oh boy your in trouble

11 Nov 2018 00:02:54
Jets say no as none of the players the Leafs trade would be an up-grade to Scheifele and Trouba. Also signing Nylander to what he wants, Gardner being a UFA and Levio
an RFA there is no upside for the Jets to make this trade.

11 Nov 2018 00:15:57
Hmmm. The Jets give up the most valuable pieces for a group of players they don't need. I don't see how Winnipeg could say no.

11 Nov 2018 01:14:10
Leafs add Mathews.

11 Nov 2018 02:15:47
I’d add Tavares to get Schifele.

11 Nov 2018 02:24:22
No just no.

11 Nov 2018 10:11:21
Love this site.
Best entertainment ever.

11 Nov 2018 10:14:10
Schiffle would be the best fourth line center in the league behind Tavares, Mathews and Lindholm. Wow.

11 Nov 2018 21:00:54
Scheifele would be the Leafs #1 center as Matthews is always hurt and Tavares is an over payed, soft, -40 plus/ minus center who has no credibility in the playoffs, so he fits in well on the Leafs.

11 Nov 2018 22:12:09
thanks ij, how did blowing a 2-0 lead to the 'over payed, soft, -40 plus minus center' feel just last week?

and please don't bring up the 4-0 comeback from two years ago, lmao, that's history.

11 Nov 2018 22:25:43
Islandjet is a little bitter about something. Our 3rd center would be your 2nd and Tavares is +4 on a good team.

11 Nov 2018 23:39:03
Well you're wrong about that. Kadri would have zero shot at being a 2C on the Jets. Without prime PP time this year he has come back down to earth and isn't a good enough playmaker to get a shot with Laine and Ehlers. Little seems to have bounced back from a down year and Kadri isn't as good a shut down center as Lowry, so he'd be a 4th liner.

12 Nov 2018 02:10:04
I’ve been on this site for over 5 years and never has anyone bashed Tavares, until he becomes a leaf. Islandjet, you must be feeling a little more comfortable with your teams position now? You weren’t running your mouth at the beginning of the year.

12 Nov 2018 03:16:20
Ehlers and Laine don't need a playmaker. They need a defensive dynamo who isn't an anchor offensively to get out of their own end.

12 Nov 2018 03:35:17
Kadri has come down to earth because he plays on the 3rd line when Matthews is in the lineup. Take a look how he’s doing since moving up to 2C. Little has had a decent career playing above his skill level, just as Bozak did in Toronto. Kadri 4th center in Winnipeg, lol. Welcome back Jets fans.

12 Nov 2018 03:39:34
Little, Lowry and Roslovic 14 points, Kadri 11. Bahaha!

10 Nov 2018 17:41:01
Mtl:Suzuki,Julsen,2rd 2019 and Fleury

Dallas:Heiskanen,Spezza(Cap dump),Faska

Does Dallas considers mtl needs a star defensemen

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10 Nov 2018 18:23:09
No. Dallas will not move heiskanen. That was why Karlsson wasn’t traded to Dallas, stars refused to include heiskanen. So if a team whose best players (Benn, Seguin, Radulov, Bishop) are in their late 20’s and early 30’s wouldn’t include him for a 28 year old superstar that could help them win a cup now, they won’t do it for a collection of lesser valued futures. And Faksa didn’t live up to his offensive hype but has been groomed into a very good 2 way Centre, a similar path to Kadri. He has real good value to a team that’s looking to compete for a cup too.

10 Nov 2018 20:17:28
I don't think Dallas would move Miro Boom. I think he is just what they've been wanting for a while now. Both Him and Klinberg I think are staying in Dallas for a while now IMO.

10 Nov 2018 17:23:10
mtl- shaw-hudon-schlemko

chi- saad

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10 Nov 2018 18:27:03
Saads biggest down fall is his contract, at $6mill he’s not living up to it. But shaw ($3.9) and schlemko ($2.1) make exactly the same. Only reason hawks trade saad for worse players would be in an attempt to shed salary like the / strome trade. But they don’t save anything doing this, atleast oilers saved $3 mill or whatever it was.

10 Nov 2018 20:09:14
that package does not get you saad.

10 Nov 2018 16:12:51
Minnesota Trades
Niederreiter
Dumba

Toronto Trades
WNylander
Zaitsev
Marincin
4th Round Pick 2019

Thoughts?

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10 Nov 2018 17:18:41
value wise (if Nylander had a contract the wild were happy with) I don’t think it’s bad. My problem with it is we are willing to trade a player like Nylander to strengthen a weak spot on RHD but this doesn’t do that enough. Dumba is awesome, I’d love to have him as top pair but that still means hainsey is 2nd. i'm good with trading Nylander to upgrade hainsey to a younger better player, but this is upgrading Zaitsev not hainsey. If our right side is Dumba, hainsey, Ozhiganov, it’s better than hainsey, zaitsev, oz but not good enough. Dumba, zaitsev, oz is what I would want. Trading our current best RHD with nylander for a better RHD doesn’t make sense. Will still be our weak spot and it cost us a 22 year old winger with high upside.

10 Nov 2018 17:28:44
So, the Wild give up the best piece in Dumba and a decent winger to get a good winger looking for more money than he's worth and a pile of garbage. I have to think the Wild say no.

10 Nov 2018 16:06:19
Habs Suzuki
Edm Puljujarvi

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10 Nov 2018 16:46:49
No from mtl I want to see what Suzuki can do in the nhl before trading him. Plus Suzuki is a center and Pul is a winger so we would be trading from a position of weakness to help at are best position atm. Plus Suzuki stock is high atm especially after the start of the season he's having in the OHL. If you want to trade Fleury a second rd pick and Primeau for Pul that might be better for both teams.

10 Nov 2018 17:12:43
Oilers defs should hold onto pool party imo.

10 Nov 2018 18:34:05
Both of you can be right on this.

With mcdavid/ draisatl/ RNH up the middle, oilers needs a big scoring winger more than a small centre.

With Weaker centres and better wingers, habs probably better off banking on good centre prospects.

11 Nov 2018 14:20:22
Suzuki is RW.

11 Nov 2018 14:34:09
Suzuki can play center and right wing. He has proven this at the junior level at least.

10 Nov 2018 06:19:37
Canucks are clearly to good right now we are one of the best teams in nhl we should be rebuilding just look its not fare to edm oiler that after only 4 years at the bottom of the league where right back on top so we do what right and trade

Canucks horvat petterson boeser

Oiler sekra lucic drias

Now mcdavid well have a nhl team behind him

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10 Nov 2018 14:01:56
Purplefart your going to be hated on here with that attitude. And whe ure canucks are going to hit a wall ( wich every team does st one point) you're going to look like a fool. Be modest about what ure team as accomplish because as you said they are doing very good atm but does young kids will have to face adversity at one point.

10 Nov 2018 14:42:51
So Van trades there Top 3 Young building blocks for 1 Top Player and 2 old Vets, if Benning did that he would have purple farts.

10 Nov 2018 14:30:13
Only 4 years at the bottom of the league? Lol.

10 Nov 2018 14:35:37
BoomBoom this isn't anything new from purplefart. His old account name was Brock and this kind of posts were the daily norm from him. Don't expect anything more.

10 Nov 2018 15:33:55
Well smart guy. if your one of the best teams. go to the cup.
But nice troll.

10 Nov 2018 15:40:08
Ahah thanx for the info yupp. I have to give u props too u have seemed to toned it down lately in terms of modesty and bashing people for bad proposal. And with the team the Oilers have and with Bouchard who imo is going to be a number 1 RHD in the likes of Parayko, your Oilers will be just fine. Hopefully Puljujarvi continues to improve. Do u think he might need to play the rest of the year in the ahl to get they're?

10 Nov 2018 17:13:55
Purple fart just has a sad life so he comes on here and posts stuff like this.

10 Nov 2018 17:50:34
I'm torn with Pul right now. Part of me says he needs 10 games in the AHL with the best players and lots of time, to hopefully boost some confidence that can carry back up to the big club. He had a good end to last year that was promising but ha failed to battle for a regular roster spot this year, that's been disappointing. Not they had him on the fourth line like coach Eakins and MacT did with Yak, that's so bad. Small rumor has it if he's going to get sent down that him and his agent might ask for a trade as it's obviously not working out on both sides. Now if he asked for a trade after not performing well enough to keep a spot then fine.

But, I have two opinions on Pul, which this is what I mean by torn. He came over to North America as a highly touted 18 war old not speaking any English. He came from a place where he was comfortable and had the confidence to a place where he was in the spotlight with a team like the Oilers and the spotlight they have in the hockey craze town and with McDavid. That is a hard transition for a lot of people. He lost all the confidence and maybe was a little taken back. Two years later he's still only 20 and still can't find that cocky confidence in his game he needs.
I think 10 games in the AHL is needed as he can't play well enough to stay in the NHL lineups regular rely.

Or. I would trade him, And I would look to a smaller market without the pressure or spotlight and to a team with a fellow Finn friend, not to play on the same line but to have a friend in the room and off the ice. I look at Aho and Carolina and Barkov and Florida. I think those would be good fits and think he could find his game there if he doesn't in the NHL. Great kid, I hope he can find his confidence tho no matter what happens.

11 Nov 2018 16:22:21
Does any of what I said make sense at all? Or was I just rambling. 😄.

11 Nov 2018 16:48:26
Hes one of those players Yupp who was put into NHL when he shouldn't have been. he's a really good talent who obviously is struggling. I'd hope for Oilers sake they don't give up. However maybe a change is what he needs. I'd like to trade Sherbac for him. think Habs would have to add. ( and no I don't want him just cause he's Finnish) .

10 Nov 2018 03:16:01
Cal sam bennet


Edn jesse p

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10 Nov 2018 11:02:48
Pul has more value right now, calgary would have to add.

09 Nov 2018 23:33:58
The Vancouver Canucks send (D) Chris Tanev & (2019) 1st-Round Pick to The Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for (C) William Nylander

The Vancouver Canucks send (RW) Loui Eriksson to The Edmonton Oilers in exchange for (LW) Milan Lucic & (2019) 2nd-Round Pick

The Vancouver Canucks send (C) Adam Gaudette, (C) Brandon Sutter & (2020) 1st-Round Pick to The Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for (D) Justine Faulk


Sven Baertschi - Bo Horvat - Brock Boeser
Nikolay Goldobin - Elias Pettersson - William Nylander
Milan Lucic - Markus Granlund - Jake Virtanen
Antoine Roussel - Tim Schaller - Tyler Motte

Ben Hutton - Justin Faulk
Derrick Pouliot - Erik Gudbranson
Michael Del Zotto - Troy Stecher

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10 Nov 2018 13:11:46
Lucic> Erikson.

 


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