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14 Sep 2018 02:39:54
Toronto to sign and trade William Nylander.

NSH: William Nylander and Jake Gardiner

TOR: P.K. Subban and 2rd pk in 2019

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14 Sep 2018 06:27:42
I would think Nashville would want more than that. A UFA and a decent winger doesn't get you a top flight defenseman, especially if Nashville has to throw in a pick.

14 Sep 2018 07:18:59
The leafs can’t afford his contract. Nylander is a little above decent Joe, unless you consider the “Winnipeg untouchables”, Ehlers and Connor decent.

14 Sep 2018 12:39:34
Nylander= “ decent winger” lol what?

14 Sep 2018 14:56:03
Sorry guys. I didn't mean "decent" as an insult. I just meant that there is no way Nylander is the main piece if you're going after Subban. Just like Ehlers wouldn't be.

14 Sep 2018 16:02:58
Then what would be? Someoje like Laine? No way.

14 Sep 2018 17:20:34
In terms of value, ignoring team needs, I would say it would need to be a very good center or defenseman, plus picks or prospects depending on who the main piece is. Wingers just don't carry the value in general to land a top defenseman, simply because it is far easier to find a good winger than it is a top defenseman. Especially a right handed one.

14 Sep 2018 17:31:20
Subban isn’t the D I’d want to bring in anyway. Makes a ton of money, and I think drama follows him, whether it be his fault or not. Big personality and that rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

If we could get him cheap assets wise, and he didn’t make $9 mill, then it might be worth the risk but that just won’t happen. However to give up good assets, pay him that kind of money and risk dressing room issues, no thanks.

14 Sep 2018 18:06:53
I can understand that. I don't really see why the Leafs would want to target Subban. He would kill your salary cap moving forward.

14 Sep 2018 20:34:39
Nah, i relatively think a guy like subban wouldn't pull a laine/ matthews/ barzal type guy. I just can't see it. It would havr to be a Nylander/ Ehlers esque player.

14 Sep 2018 22:15:16
I think subban is in that ehlers/ Nylander class as well value wise, then add on the RHD premium over a winger and he probably gets a slightly better return. But definitely not laine/ matthews type players lol that’s just not going to happen. Both those guys could score 50 goals and are 20/ 21 years old. No way a really good 29 year old Dman making $9mill gets you that lol.

13 Sep 2018 20:37:55
All along I said the leafs wouldn't trade Nylander but I'm taking that back now by contradicting myself and putting my bias aside with this realistic Nylander proposal.

Any Nylander deal would need to meet this Critera.

A. Western Conference team

B. Low salary coming back

C. A RHD

Side note- apparently the Leafs were talking about Paryanko with stl but that's a pipe dream

Dallas acquires- William Nylander

Leafs acquire- Stephan Jones, 1st round 2019 and 2nd round 2020

Leafs- they'll have to move him for something. Jones could be good with Rielly.

Dallas- gets a 21 year old 1st line winger/ possible C who has potential to be a +PPG-guy

What do you guys think?

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13 Sep 2018 20:52:09
What would you think about an offer sheet which gives the leafs a 1st 2nd and a 3rd?

13 Sep 2018 21:03:54
Leafs don’t need picks, although then they could trade one of their firsts for like Eberle to replace Nylander.

13 Sep 2018 21:04:06
I don't think stephan johns should be the centrepiece of a deal involving nylander. Leafs could get a much better player back then him.

13 Sep 2018 21:22:20
Don't worry buddy. We already know you over exaggerate all the time and then back peddle.
Dubas himself has said they will sign the three, Nylander, Marner and Mathews no worries tho.

13 Sep 2018 21:23:26
It’s Johns not Jones but I think leafs can get a better offer than that if they are trading away Nylander.

13 Sep 2018 21:33:24
You’d think they would get an better offer but the Leafs don’t have any leverage whatsoever so if a underwhelming deal like this occurs I will not be suprised and I won’t be disappointed in Dubas or any of the Leafs management.

Just a little FYI to everyone stars never get fair value.

13 Sep 2018 22:07:52
Guys enough about Nylander.

Can we get back to making fun of Rambo for how wrong he was (again) about Karlsson?

13 Sep 2018 22:27:39
@Habby I would rather see the leafs match it.

13 Sep 2018 22:35:55
Nylander is not a star yet. But that being said he should get fair value in a trade. karllson pacioretty skinner etc are all in different situation and point of there careers then nylander. Nylander is an Rfa which means he be under the control of the team that gets him. They could decide which contract route they wanted to go. Plus he's still developing and will most likely get better over the next few years. The star players who you were referring to are already in or maybe even slightest past there prime.

13 Sep 2018 22:37:57
Vbbb what about if it was montreal doing the offer sheet?

13 Sep 2018 23:22:29
Why do you think leafs don’t have any leverage?! Lol they own his NHL rights till he’s 27. He’s 21. He needs them far more than they need him they have plenty of capable, albeit not as good as him, wingers who would kiss ass for a chance to play with Matthews and pad their stats.

He doesn’t have another NHL team to play for unless leafs allow him to. His rights are very restricted, hence him being called a Restricted Free Agent lol. If he is demanding a contract that throws the pay scale of this roster out of whack, then I’m fine with seeing what type of a Dman they could get for him. But when the answer comes back and it’s Stephen Johns, I’m going a different route lol

This $8mill ask could be him starting really high because leafs went low. Or it could be just BS since it’s apparently from an unnamed western conference executive. Pasternak is a close comparison in age, position, draft and has better production so far. He’s $6.67mill. Monaghan, gaudreau, Scheifele, mackinnon, Larkin, Ehlers all got between $6 and $6.7 mill off their entry level deal. He’s in the middle of that pack at best. Those deals are all a year or 2 old so give him the benefit of the added cap increase and he’s a $6.5-6.75 player. I will bet he signs in Toronto in the next week to 10 days for about $6.5 mill.

13 Sep 2018 23:40:12
Toronto dosent have much leverage because if he holds out and dosent sign when the season starts his value drops drastically.

13 Sep 2018 23:41:35
And in that case I wouldn’t match Montreal’s pick could be a huge payoff. + leafs can’t afford the money the leafs would give up.

13 Sep 2018 23:58:32
From what I read he has the same agent as Gaudreau who also held out as long as possible and the agent is known for this. I guess Nylander’s dad is involved in the negotiations and he was known for holding out as well. He is obviously not as good as Pastrnak and Kucherov, so if he wants to play hardball, trade him. Won’t they just settle on a bridge deal?

14 Sep 2018 00:12:13
Yeah I think he resigns too.

14 Sep 2018 02:55:34
Leafs17, you’re right. The agent is the same one that he gaudreau moss allnof camp and he still got $6.75 mill. His original ask was $8mill aswell. He also represented Saad with Chicago and they got tired of the demands and traded him. They went and got him back wth the big salary a year later, but it just shows that there’s still multiple possible outcomes. But again, I bet he signs. Most likely 6-8 years at $6.5 mill. Possibly 2-3 years at $5 mill or so like kucherov did and then hope to cash in for $8 mill after.

14 Sep 2018 20:11:37
Also it’s easy to sit out during camp. I’m sure he’s missing being a part of camp and seeing the guys etc already. But he can hold out and miss pre-season games, you don’t get paid for them. But once the season starts, at $6.5mill salary that I believe is close to the offer, he loses out on $80,000 a game. That money, even if he signs the next morning, is gone forever. So missing 15 games is almost $1.25mill. If money is your issue, it’s pretty foolish to burn that off the start. That’s why I don’t believe camp finishes before Nylander signs.

15 Sep 2018 05:45:34
Dubas sounded confident that he will sign the big three. Starting to wonder now. Maybe willie changed his mind i see no other reason. Willy should be signed by now there must be more to it.

15 Sep 2018 17:00:18
I can see Nylanders problem with it. It’s great to have 3 young stars, try to keep them all and ask them all to buy in and take a little less.

But if you’re the first guy up, you’re in a hard spot. If he feels he’s worth $7.25-7.5 but is asked to take $6-6.5 and does it for the good of the team, how would he feel if next year marner and Matthews don’t take the discount and go for $9.5 and $13 mill. He looks like a fool for 6 or 7 years. Maybe the plan was to have all 3 buy in and sign extensions this summer and the other 2 want to play out their last year, forcing Nylander to look after himself first.

15 Sep 2018 21:17:21
I'm willing to bet at least 95% of the time players don't even consider taking less money just to keep a group of players together. i think it might happen occasionally in sports with older guys who have seen 1 st hand how hard it is to win a championship. But very very rarely. Also I wouldn't be suprised if dubas has even talked to nylander about a new contract almost all tines these discussions involve management and the players agent. And almost every time the agent is trying to get the highest contract possible. I can't say for sure because I don't know for sure what's going on but I'm willing to bet if leafs management and nylander had sat down together without an agent involved there would be a contract signed by now.

13 Sep 2018 19:33:17
Eric Karlsson to SJS! Confirmed trade.

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13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Hahaha oh man. I can't wait to see Rambo try and spin this.

13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Sens get an additional 1st rounder in the deal of Karlsson plays for an eastern conference team this season lol love how they had to protect themselves after sharks already schooled them with Hoffman!

Not a bad haul tho.

13 Sep 2018 19:46:50
Definitely not Braden Point, Sergachev, 2 firsts and taking bobby Ryan with him tho, right Rambo?

13 Sep 2018 19:48:27
Karlsson for Norris+1st+2nd+Balcers+Tierney+DeMelo and conditional picks. that's a lot of pieces, but the big value lies in Norris, Balcers and the 1st. Tierney and Demelo are just fillers and a 2nd is a 2nd

Quite a step down from NBRs cries of ‘Boeser + Hughes + VANS 1st’. VANS 1 > SJS 1, Hughes >>>>> Norris and Boeser>>>>>>everything else.

lol @NBR wya now?

13 Sep 2018 20:08:05
Looks like they were going after Timo Meier and that didn't work out.
Also, the 1st is conditional - SJS has to make it to the finals or it goes to a 2nd i think.

13 Sep 2018 20:25:02
HAHAHAHAHAHA what was that Rambo? Hughes and two firsts or Boeser, Hughes and a first for Karlsson?!?! HAHA you’re clueless. You’re always so arrogant on here like you know everything yet every time you say a player will get this or get that he never does. You know nothing.

13 Sep 2018 20:31:12
I wonder is Rambone will ever comment on it or not.
Yet another homer absolutely wrong of his evaluations.
Colt and Shattenkirk was another classic.

13 Sep 2018 21:23:19
It's so funny they needed to throw that conditional pick in.

San Jose burned them on the Hoffman deal so now they have to cover their ass this time.

13 Sep 2018 21:24:33
Man Ottawa just has not had any luck with trades this year. Pretty brutal imo UNREAL for sharks.

13 Sep 2018 21:53:03
E. Kane and Karlsson are unreal additions.
Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic, Pavelski, Couture, Kane, Thornton.
****. They are the favorites in pacific no questions. And just jumped into the top of the league talks with Nashville, Winnipeg and Tampa.

13 Sep 2018 22:03:16
Awful trade for Ottawa. Quantity over quality by far. Not one high end prospect in return. Plus if you look at the Duschene trade and compare what they paid vs the return on Karlsson, it’s is completely awful value in return. Another bad move by Dorion. Not saying one of the prospects or picks turns out but that’s a lot of risk for an elite top pairing defenceman.

13 Sep 2018 23:28:45
Potentially it’s Norris, Tierney, Demelo Balcans, 3 1st rounders and 2nd.

However for the Senators to get that package, Sharks would have to sign him to an extension, trade him to an eastern Conference team at the deadline and then make the Stanley Cup final lol.

13 Sep 2018 23:56:32
We won’t hear from Rambo until he’s telling us what package Stone will bring in.

14 Sep 2018 00:04:26
Shattenkirk got a first a prospect and conditional pick.

That 1st pick turned into schenn. can't argue with those results.

14 Sep 2018 04:12:55
I said it superstars like Karlsson don’t actually bring much back because no matter what you get it’ll never amount up to what you gave up. Look at the Gretzky, Roy and Jagr trades none got back mush significans compared to what they were.

14 Sep 2018 12:17:18
Habs legit got a better return for Patch than Ottawa had for Carlson

Damn Sens got fleeced bigtime unless Karlesson doesn't resign in San Jose.

13 Sep 2018 15:37:19
With stingy Steve Yzerman off the reigns, I see a more comparable ott Tampa trade happening for Erik Karlsson.

Tampa: EK (EXTENSION)

Ott: Sergachev + Cirelli + Raddysh

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13 Sep 2018 15:55:08
If Tampa wanted to trade Sergachev for Karlsson it would’ve been done already.

13 Sep 2018 16:13:23
The GM has changed so maybe Tampas needs have changed.

13 Sep 2018 17:23:50
no pending ufa is worth sergachev and radyish. I know i spelt it wrong in a hurry.

13 Sep 2018 19:33:35
Lmao. Delusional.

13 Sep 2018 14:47:39
So if the rumours are true that Nylander wants 8 mill, then he needs to go, and the leafs will need to find a good replacement for him
Well, if Columbus is going to get anything back for Panarin, it's now

To Columbus:
Nylander, Gardiner (5 year extension)
To Leafs:
Savard, Panarin (2 year extension)

This would allow Columbus to sign Nylander long term to replace Panarin and give the leafs someone to replace Nylander until another solution presents itself
Do the leafs need to give up more?
Do they give up too much?
Would Columbus be ok with this?

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13 Sep 2018 17:44:28
Leafs win big as of today, depends what savard is long term in a few years. If nylander wants 8 mil, he'll be sitting out the season.

13 Sep 2018 20:02:32
Why trade him and take back panarin?! He’s not going to take less than $8 mill either, he’s older and closer to UFA. Nylander has very little leverage for 5 more years.

IF his ask is actually $8mill, I see that coming down. And if it doesn’t, we have Kapanen, Johnsson, and brown to play in his spot for penny’s. They aren’t as good as Nylander, I understand. But they will be playing with Matthews and Marleau. They will contribute just fine.

Then you trade Nylander for a good young D and move on. Trading a young winger for demanding $8 million for an older winger who will want $8.5 mill + makes zero sense when we are stacked with offense and the only weak spot on a solid team is D.

13 Sep 2018 21:55:57
Well coming as a leafs fan, the trade is done so we can then flip Panarin for an upcoming star like DeBrincat (just an example) so we can keep our young core intact.

12 Sep 2018 23:47:33
At the June 2019 Draft.

WPG: Trouba
NYI: Dobson, 1st Round Pick 2019

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13 Sep 2018 03:38:36
So no from islanders. Lol.

13 Sep 2018 05:24:20
Another trade that doesn't help a contending team like the Jets at all. It would need to be a roster defenseman and/ or Dobson or the pick depending on the roster player. The Jets can't afford to give away a top pairing defenseman for a player who may never be as good and a pick.

Every one here will whine about Dobson's draft position, but a 12thOA pick isn't a lock to turn into a top pairing defenseman, just look at Nurse.

13 Sep 2018 15:45:52
This could look good for the Jets at the trade deadline if they can't resign Trouba and Dobson continues to develop his game. I still believe that there would be over 1/ 2 the teams in the NHL that would make the Jets a serious trade package for Trouba, and he could be worth more than this offer.

13 Sep 2018 21:25:35
I still don’t understand how and why you guys believe Trouba is worth so much.

13 Sep 2018 21:37:43
@McJesus, young, top pairing RHD is the hardest thing to find in the NHL along with 1C. That's why Trouba would be expensive to acquire.

12 Sep 2018 22:10:05
Dallas: Karlsson (signed long term)

Ottawa: Heiskanen, Oettinger, 1st rounder,

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12 Sep 2018 23:26:23
Long term idk if that’s even enough 🤷🏼‍♂️.

12 Sep 2018 20:17:10
to Columbus
Morrissey
1st

to Winnipeg
Jones

Adding Trouba's old pal Seth Jones may be the best thing Winnipeg could do to keep him. Obviously, though, they will have to give up an awful lot to get him.

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12 Sep 2018 20:41:35
No thanks from Columbus yikes.

12 Sep 2018 21:08:49
Jones is a RHD, and the jets don’t need more RHD, If the jets get Werenski and Trouba goes to Columbus, maybe you can get a conversation started and add a few things on both sides, Jones wouldn’t be the same on the left side, Neither would Trouba

Winnipeg D Lines
Werenski/ Big Buff
Morrisey/ Myers
Kulikov/ camp battles spot

Columbus D lines
Nuitivarra/ Jones
Murray/ Trouba
Carlsson/ Savard

Obviously there are more pieces, especially if Werenski doesn’t start the season healthy, but this is a start, they both have been injured and both teams could trade later on to improve if they have to, it all works out.

12 Sep 2018 21:14:31
I can't see CLB moving Jones for that. Morrissey is good, but CLB would want more than a late first to make the swap.

12 Sep 2018 21:53:59
Most people don't see Morrissey enough to really see how good a d-man he is. He's a 23 year old #1 shut down left shot d-man on the #2 team in the NHL. He is that good. I hope the Jets lock him up for 8 years. I really can't see the Jets ever trading him in the near future. Trouba on the other hand will be gone at the draft if he doesn't sign a long term deal with the Jets.

12 Sep 2018 22:10:00
CLB isn't trading either Jones or Werenski.

12 Sep 2018 22:48:31
Jones is definitely the most valuable dman in the NHL when considering 2 way play, age and Contract. Don’t think Columbus would consider a Liane And Trouba package for Jones.

It would require a Piece like Mathews+ for Jones ( overpayment ) .

12 Sep 2018 23:15:51
Morrisey is good but he's not on the same level as jones and a late 1st rounder doesn't even come close to making up the difference.

13 Sep 2018 01:16:49
Here comes vb to make another stupid statement that’s no where near true. If Columbus was offered Laine and Trouba for Jones they’d take that in a second you’re honestly a dunce.

13 Sep 2018 06:27:20
but adding panarin with Jones and adding laine and trouba is close, with some small details,

13 Sep 2018 11:13:29
You guys drastically underate Jones. Jones=Dahlin value wise.

13 Sep 2018 14:35:39
Haha jets fans are funny, when y’all turn into Toronto?

12 Sep 2018 17:31:23
As you can all tell I am obviously a leafs fan, but I was wondering if something like this could happen

To Ottawa:
Trouba, 2019 1st, Petan, retain 1.3 mill of Ceci's contract
To Winnipeg:
Duchene, Ceci, 2019 3rd, 2020 4th

This would definitely help Winnipeg and give Ottawa something with value back for Duchene, and something to kind of eas the pain of trading Karlsson later on, it would get them 2 first rounders at absolute minimum in the end to make up for their lost first
I added Ceci in the trade just so Winnipeg has a backup plan in case Myers goes to FA next summer, although his cap is something they may want to lower so they ask Ottawa to retain around 1.3 mill of his salary
I don't think Duchene plays on re-signing in Ottawa anyway so this may be a trade where they can actually get something for him

Thoughts?

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12 Sep 2018 18:12:53
No interest from Winnipeg. The Jets won't be able to afford to resign Duchene and trading Trouba this year makes the Jets worse. There is just no incentive there for the Jets to do this.

12 Sep 2018 18:29:12
Why would the Jets trade for a UFA in Duchene and a RFA in Ceci. The Jets have enough of their own players to sign and they don't need to trade for Duchene who will leave at the end of the season because he will want $8+ mil and the Jets will have better use for that money. They already have an arbitration headache in Trouba so why down grade and trade for another one in Ceci? Then for this they give up a piece of their future in a first round pick. They have the chemistry and internal pieces to make a deep run for the cup and two unhappy perennial losers won't do much to increase the Jets chances. The Jets aren't in business to improve the Sens future.

12 Sep 2018 18:32:18
Trouba wouldn't want to be in Ottawa over Winnipeg. Lol.

12 Sep 2018 18:44:31
@islandjet
That is my point, this is a short term solution for the Jets until they can find someone else who they can bring in, they don’t have to re-sign Duchene, and Trouba is replaced by Ceci, who won’t cost as much and who won’t be a huge d**k when it comes to RFA like Trouba was, and won’t cost as much so they have more money to re-sign Myers, Morrisey and other pending UFA and RFA, they still have about 10 mill in space without LTIR so they can 100% do this.
Oh and one more thing, there is no way Duchene is getting more then 7 mill, he had less points then Nylander and Nylander is going to get at max 7, I just don’t see it happening

@memarcusjoe
The Jets are stupid stacked on right side defence, they downgrade that to upgrade their center, if they want a center it’s going to cost Trouba or Myers, just like if the leafs want Parayko it will cost Nylander, they have the depth so 100% they can do it, it’s just a question of who they target
Again they don’t have to re-sign Duchene, it’s a short term solution until they can find something else.

12 Sep 2018 19:32:08
The Jets are stacked on the right side. now, but of their next 4 top d-man prospects in Niku, Stanley, Poolman and Samberg only Poolman is a right shot. If the Jets can't re-sign Trouba and had to trade him at the draft, which would be hastened with the re-signing of Myers or the development of Poolman, they would want another top 1/ 2 d-man, or a couple of #1 draft choices, or a couple of A prospects. Duchene and Ceci don't fit the bill long term and are potential re-signing headaches.

12 Sep 2018 20:31:04
@themostleaf33,
The extra 15 points Duchene brings over Little isn't worth losing a top pairing RHD and replacing him with Cici. This trade makes the Jets worse this year just like the RNH trade below.

12 Sep 2018 22:08:03
Are the Jets that in need of centres?

12 Sep 2018 22:30:36
Delusional the Jets have Scheifele, Little, Lowry, Roslovic Petan, Perreault that are NHL ready and Spacek McKenzie, Harkins and Stallard that are a couple years away. Just because the Jets didn't resign Stastny doesn't mean they are desperate for a center. They didn't sign free agents as they now have a lot of internal depth at every position.

12 Sep 2018 23:09:43
Delusional,
Nope not at all. Duchene would be great, but would be a luxury, not a need. Definitely not worth giving up half of our top pairing for.

12 Sep 2018 03:39:52
Jets trade Trouba, Petan and Lemieux to

Edmonton

for

Nurse and Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers get cap space and 2 young affordable NHL’ers and if Trouba doesn’t sign with EDM flip him for a nice package.

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12 Sep 2018 05:16:49
Lol. Noooo.

12 Sep 2018 05:33:02
Dont think pecan and lemieux make up for nuge.

12 Sep 2018 06:49:11
No from oil.

12 Sep 2018 15:06:28
No from both teams.

12 Sep 2018 15:53:24
Lmao this is a hell Fukin yes from Winnipeg. Wow.

12 Sep 2018 15:57:09
As I've said before, Trouba won't be traded before the end of the season. Also, RNH and his contract is not worth the downgrade from Trouba to Nurse.

12 Sep 2018 16:52:13
What am i reading? Jets would take this 100%.
Oilers would never accept that offer though.

12 Sep 2018 18:16:46
apparently if you’re a Winnipeg fan you have 0 brain cells.

12 Sep 2018 18:17:18
TT, why would the Jets do this? RNH would be a luxury, not a need and the downgrade from Trouba to Nurse would hurt the Jets far more than RNH would help. The Jets are contending now and this trade makes the Jets worse.

You need to consider team needs in a trade. There is no reason for the Jets to do this.

12 Sep 2018 18:33:24
Wow. Crazy jets homers. Lol.

12 Sep 2018 20:35:56
So, the Jets fans are homers, yet no one can tell us how this makes the Jets better. RNH produces about the same as Little, is worse defensively and has a bad contract. Plus to take on him we also have to take a large downgrade from Trouba to Nurse.

So, please detail how this makes the Jets better this year.

This should be fun!

12 Sep 2018 22:43:40
memarcusjoe sometimes its a waste of time and energy asking certain posters to explain why they thing the Jets wouldn't do sill trade proposals. They think the Jets will be happy to take other teams headaches off their hands for the Jets proven good players. The Jets don't make stupid trades, toy with their chemistry or sign free agents to crazy contracts. That is why the Jets are the #2 ranked team in the NHL, with a deep prospect pool that makes them a favorite to win the cup. Let the bottom feeders post silly uneducated reply's as to why the Jets should make trades that only the Oilers or Canadiens GMs would make. Try to ignore the childish responses to you posts.

13 Sep 2018 00:41:02
Nurse would probably be your number 1 left D. Jets centre depth isn’t the greatest and RNH would improve that. Playing with Ehlers and Liane I’m sure he’d put up amazing numbers. Not as good as his point per game with McDavid but maybe 65 ish? Also Nurse has the potential to put up as good or better numbers than Trouba this season.

13 Sep 2018 02:40:50
I certainly agree Islandjet. I was just hoping to hear some of the crazy reasoning as to why the Jets would do it.

I mean RNH produces the same as Little, is worse defensively and costs more, so that can't be the reason. So, we're not getting much help there. Plus we have to take a major downgrade from Trouba to Nurse. An unneeded player like RNH with his bad contract isn't enough incentive.

It would have been fun to see their logic.

13 Sep 2018 03:05:48
‘Erik karlsson and matt duchene for nic petan and mathieu perreault.

Oh wait duchenes a luxur and so is karlson cause all jets players are good and we can't upset team chemistry because wre the best team in the league and don't need to make adjustments. ’

Cmon guys be real. I don't care if RNH is a luxury. he's not a cap dump and is bettter than Nic Petan and whatever. You take that deal. Idc.

13 Sep 2018 05:33:07
Ebs, Nurse would only be on the second pairing. He's not as good as Morrissey. Also, at this point in his development I highly doubt Nurse will ever be as good as Trouba is now.

An unneeded player like RNH just isn't worth the downgrade on defense. Contending teams don't make trades just for of it.

13 Sep 2018 14:26:43
I would change it this way.

Edmonton Trades
RNH
Nurse

Jets Trade
Connor
Trouba.

13 Sep 2018 15:41:20
It's an absolute waste of time trying to have conversations with you homers tho. You've proven just how completely bad a homers you guys are the last bunch of months getting called out by everyone in this site. It's entertaining tho.

13 Sep 2018 15:47:09
Congrats Pinball. You've taken a bad trade for the Jets and made it worse. Now the Jets are giving away the two best players in the deal.

13 Sep 2018 17:49:46
memarcusjoe and I aren't posting these ridiculous trade proposals, just commenting how they wouldn't help the Jets but would rob them of their talented draft and develop players. Not being blind homers but realistic in the trade proposals. If RNH and Nurse are so great why are they constantly being peddled in trades? The Jets don't need these players to improve as they are one of the top teams in the NHL. Some of these may look good at the draft if they can't re-sign Trouba long term, but for now the Jets would have no I repeat NO interest in the Oilers winger, as he can't cut it as a center, RNH and Nurse who would be lucky to be on the Jets 2nd pairing. So grow up and stop with the insults and give real hockey reasons why the Jets would want to do these trades that only help the Oilers.

13 Sep 2018 19:21:11
Islandjet is right we have all these Leaf and Oiler homers telling us how great these trades are for the Jets, yet they can't tell us how it makes the Jets better.

@ yupp. Here's your chance to make your point. Please detail how downgrading on defense and taking on an overpaid center makes the Jets better?

13 Sep 2018 19:46:29
Nurse is rarely ever in trades so “peddling” is just wrong. And when RNH is in trades it’s usually other teams fans trading for him.
I’ll agree with Nuge being a little overplayed but he can’t cut it at centre? Lol he has a reputation for being a really good two way guy and people loved him at centre. It just so happens the Oil have two centres that are better than him and weak winger depth.
Your argument and reply’s to why this is bad is just “little is better than RNH and morrisey is better than Nurse” good arguments.
Nuge would 100% make your team better and would probably thrive on your second line with the talent that’s on it and he would make little expandable. Trouba is only in trade rumours because it doesn’t look like he wants to sign in Winnipeg. The jets have good RD depth so it would 100% make sense to get solid value for him and upgrade other parts of your team while getting a really solid young LD (a position that isn’t very deep on the jets) in return.

13 Sep 2018 22:45:28
@Ebsolutely,
You make good points, but the thing you're forgetting is that to get the improvement you say we would get in RNH, we have to give up Trouba. The cost of losing Trouba and only getting Nurse hurts the Jets far more than any supposed benefit RNH would give us. So, the Jets end up being worse after this trade. That's why it doesn't work for Winnipeg.

13 Sep 2018 23:06:39
Well I disagree that they get worse but one of my points is it would be a smart move because it’s looking like Trouba won’t resign.

14 Sep 2018 01:01:56
Ebsolutely
Finally a really good and thought out explanation of why you think this trade is fair for both teams. Although I don't agree that this trade makes the Jets better I really respect you for posting a good defense of your position. I just wish some other poster on this site took time to explain why they liked or disliked a post.

14 Sep 2018 02:27:56
Trouba resigning is a problem for next summer.

 


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