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16 Jan 2018 22:59:51
As promise I'm done with Patches proposal. Apparently mtl is really forcing for PLD tho.They tried hard at the draft to move up for him and apenrently still trying hard now. It's clear that Patches won't be the piece I believe tho. 10 years to old lol. Who else tho? It would take an overpayment I believe to get him.So with that being said how bout another young really good center prospect going back and a good productive forward for the next 2 year window.With that being said, here's what I propose:

Mtl:Phoeing, Gallagher,2 rd pick 2018

Clb:PLD

Is this good? Would CLB consider?

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16 Jan 2018 23:43:55
You should also stop with any PLD proposals.

17 Jan 2018 00:03:40
No that wouldn’t do it for Columbus they have 0 reason to trade PLD.

17 Jan 2018 00:41:12
Maybe after the playoffs are over Columbus will listen to Montreal’s first round pick and patches and Gallagher.

17 Jan 2018 01:59:50
Actually Oilers boyz. they do have a reason to trade PLD.
Columbus believes that there window is 2 years ( the HNIC crew) ) . And PLD, is a peice they would consider moving. also HNIC guys words, not mine.
I don't see It, and he is becoming more valuable each good game he is having. but it is possible, . If this were to happen for Montreal, it would deff signal a rebuild, as it would be Patches++ veterans to get him.

17 Jan 2018 02:07:11
I'm really hoping ypur kidding AO99.As much as I like Dubois Patches and Gallagher is enough for him. So forget about adding that first. I would do these two for him tho. Dubois is and will be really good but it's not like he has a point per game. If he did I would add that first because he would be truly proven. Right now he's proven enough for mtl to trade really solid assets for him. Would you mtl fan do Patches and Gallagher for Dubois?

17 Jan 2018 02:49:55
Want don't you understand
Clb aren't trading PLD.

17 Jan 2018 04:04:11
Buckownes the thing is clolumbus has no need nor do they want to trade him so it would take a huge offer to have them even consider it and that’s why patches, Gallagher and a first would have them thinking about it. Just remember this PLD guy was drafted 3rd overall in a very deep draft and would most likely have gone first in the 2017 draft based on his points total.

16 Jan 2018 21:59:35
Isles Goalie and Defence Solutions:

Option 1 -

Islanders Trade:
(RW) Cal Clutterbuck
(G) Jaroslav Halak
(LW) Joshua Ho-Sang
(RW) Michael Dal-Colle
2018 1st Round Pick (Top 10 Protected)

Cap: Appx. 9 Million

Red Wings Trade:
(D) Mike Green
(G) Jimmy Howard - 15% Retained
(C) Luke Glendening
(D) Luke Witkowski

Cap: Appx. 11 Million

*Huge trade. Isles upgrade their goaltender, and pick up a dman who can log top 2-4 minutes. They downgrade from Clutterbuck to Glendening in terms of physicality but save cap space as well. Detroit takes on two cap dumps but makes maximum value of a pending UFA and a decent goalie. Detroit isn't on the cusp of playoffs soon, so its best they start filling up the cupboard. Clutterbuck is a bad contract, however, his deal really isn't monumental when it comes to cap space for Detroit. Tons worse in Detroit than him.


Option 2 -

Islanders Trade:
(C) Brock Nelson
(G) Jaroslav Halak
2018 2nd Round Draft Pick

Canadiens Trade:
(G) Charlie Lindgren
(C) Tomas Plekanec - 25% Retained
(D) David Schlemko

**Not as big of a deal, but still pretty decent. Isles acquire a goalie who is young and has had a pretty good year thus far, as well as a centre to replace Brock Nelson, and a decent dman who is on a good contract, and is a good 4-6 dman. Habs acquire a 2nd, which they could use, as they need picks. They acquire Nelson, who can benefit from a change of scenery after having a terrible year this year, and possibly becomes the number 1 centre in Montreal. If he's just meh, he can be shipped off to any contending team for a pick. And Halak is a cap dump but is a decent backup for Price. And honestly, this move may be for the best for Lindgren, because he's never going to see more than 15-20 starts with Carey in Montreal on that enormous deal.

- tbh, both are unrealistic, but they were just random thoughts. lol. Improvements/ suggestions?

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16 Jan 2018 23:45:03
Islanders say no to both. I'm not seeing where that helps them or equal value coming back. The Wings one is horrible for the islanders.

17 Jan 2018 00:05:20
The first one I don’t see a reason why islanders make that and second one I don’t think islanders touch either. Nobody wants plek even if he is retained.

17 Jan 2018 00:36:38
Figured so on the Wings one. Maybe take out Ho-Sang, and add like a 4th or sumtin? Idk.

17 Jan 2018 02:02:09
Habs say no. as do Islanders. Can use Lindgren to get a better return.
Arizona could use a Goalie. lots if possibilities.

17 Jan 2018 02:36:57
Plek is a ufa this summer so I don't think is contract scares any teams@Mcjesus. he's probably worth a late pick if retain to a contender that wants a good 4 line center for playoff. As long as that team can fit him in they're cap for the test of season.

17 Jan 2018 02:51:36
Lindgren ain't getting traded for guys 28+
If Lindgren is traded, it's going to take a prospect.

16 Jan 2018 22:06:18
I heard this rumour on the radio this morning:

OTT: Hoffman ceci

WSH: OSHIE and 2018 1st

Just what i heard but thought i'd share.

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17 Jan 2018 00:05:51
I think capitals lose that imo.

17 Jan 2018 00:06:04
But that’s interesting.

17 Jan 2018 01:41:14
Personally, I wouldn't do it as a sens fan. I don't value oshie that high and that 1st is going to be very late.

17 Jan 2018 22:23:28
How exactly do the capitals lose on that mcjesus?

This is exactly what I keep saying. You people underrate sens players way too much. hoffman oshie are close in value but I still rank hoffman a bit higher but Ceci is definitely worth a high 1st round pick not a bottom 5 to 7 that's a joke.

16 Jan 2018 21:34:44
VGK: GARDINER
LEIVO

Leafs: MILLER

Arizona: BOZAK
1 pick in 2019
MOORE

Leafs: DVORAK

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16 Jan 2018 23:45:24
Miller is more valuable than that to Vegas right now.

16 Jan 2018 18:44:06
MTL: Pacioretty + Sherbak
CLB: Dubois.

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16 Jan 2018 19:23:10
Lol. Columbus laughs so hard.

16 Jan 2018 19:24:35
The Panarin-PLD-Anderson line is very good for them.
Stop trying to trade Pacioretty for PLD.

16 Jan 2018 22:50:39
Ya I apologies for starting this thread. If I had Dubois I wouldn't trade him for a 10 year older Patches. It's just the 2 year window for Clb that people have been saying that gave me that Idea.

17 Jan 2018 04:39:56
Don't apologize Buck. that's what they say. 2 year window. so. with this whole salary cap world. ya never know. A GM may read into it. realize, I could win a cup, but at a Huge sacrifice. jus like our Habs, couple years ago. they were pretty damn good. Price at 6.5., Patches 4.5. Subban at whatever. shoulda added to those guys. we were close. but. well ya know.
This isn't the days when you thought Dynasty! . so . if a team had to give a top young prospect. for a star. ya do it.

16 Jan 2018 18:38:49
MTL: Pierre Luc Dubois + Anderson + Savard

Columbus: Max Pacioretty + Fucale + 2nd(2) + Shaw

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16 Jan 2018 19:11:26
HAHAHA! Not sure I've seen one decent Pacioretty deal. But this one might be the worst overvalued one yet. Wow! You're not even getting PLD alone for that package. Then you add the other two solid players.

16 Jan 2018 19:22:14
I love It! Lol
Unfortunately., Columbus wouldn't do that. would be great however!

17 Jan 2018 00:07:02
Wow this is bad.

16 Jan 2018 16:58:59
I'm really confused about Patches value.One trade I proposed too much for Patches, then I try to fix that and its not enough for him. I'm going to make my last proposal and really tought it threw so hopefully you guys think it's good for both teams involved:

Mtl: Patches, 2 rd pick 2018

CCY: Anderson,Bennett,1 rd pick 2018

Hopefully this one is better. We got the young center and the first in they're.Anderson I really like as a D prospect

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16 Jan 2018 17:44:17
This is better absolutely, just I imagine flames don’t do this unless they were going on a cup run imo and I don’t believe they are, and if flames are giving up that much I do think they will try and get a RW to play on that top line. But this is a better trade!

16 Jan 2018 18:00:17
I don't know anything about Anderson, Buck. who is he.?
As for Bennett, he scares me lol. He's still young, and has a lot of potential. however, we have been saying that about Galchenyuk forever now.
I guess when It comes to trading Patches. it's really hard to judge his value. like you said.
I think this is better than some, forsure., I would want to know more about Anderson.

16 Jan 2018 17:45:17
Tough crowd on this site for sure!

Calgary has no first rounder in 2018 so that poses an immediate problem to the proposal. 2018 1st and 2nd belong to the NYI.

Bennett I don't think is enough to start conversations as he has ranged from bust to productive, back to bottom 6 and next? Who knows. Too much inconsistency to be a center piece. Montreal from what I've read wants someone that can be a first line center in a few years, and Bennett does not appear to be headed in that direction.

Sorry, I don't see Calgary having the assets necessary to get Paccoretti this year. I think other teams will offer more value in a trade than Bennett.

Personally I think the habs will dangle patches for Dubois and even add if needed. A French kid with size, center with more potential than Bennett to be a real top 6 center.

16 Jan 2018 18:34:22
No 1st hey? If that's the case, ya no deal Did they use that to get Hamonic? Anyway, I like the Dubois idea, but it would be pretty hard to get him. Did hear the panel on HNIC talking about it during Habs/ Bruins game on Sat.

16 Jan 2018 23:11:00
I agree I want PLD lol. Sorry for late response Sosa but yea Rasmus Anderson is a sweaden RHD prospect who is a slick puck mover with a solid shoot. I really think he can become a really good player and is the main piece I the trade.

16 Jan 2018 23:47:58
From CGY: NO! Not that I wouldn’t want patches but where would he fit? He’s not a right shot RW, just another LW. We already have Gaudreau and Tkachuk in our top 6 so Patches would be a 3rd line LW. And that’s not worth the price for just 1-1/ 2 years even if we had our 1st.

For those that asked, Rasmus Andersson is a right shooting right D that plays a very strong 2-way game and is tearing up the AHL. He’s NHL ready and will likely be in the line up next year. I wouldn’t trade him for much, definitly not for Patches. I would consider Bennett for Patches straight up but CGY would need assurances that he can find his form again. If not CGY gets back a 2nd rnd pick. Bennett has turned it around but as a winger, he’s not developing as hoped as a C; similar to Galchenyuk.

17 Jan 2018 02:04:57
Thanks Buck. And SC4CGY.

16 Jan 2018 12:58:35
Canucks dalhen gagner hutton 2 rd pick

Carolina fleury.. Bean or gauthier

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16 Jan 2018 17:23:01
i don't see dalhen getting traded at all, but i see gagner, hutton and a second potentially getting fleury and/ or gauthier.

16 Jan 2018 17:45:03
Gagner, Hutton and a second will most definitely not get you Fleury and/ or gauthier.

16 Jan 2018 07:58:43
NYI: Bellows

Van: Tanev.

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16 Jan 2018 17:44:13
no clue who this bellows guy is. i'd say too little from islanders unless he's a top prospect or something.

16 Jan 2018 17:45:13
Isles add.

16 Jan 2018 18:59:11
Ya not a chance from NYI. Keifer Bellows was picked 19th overall in 2016 and looked very very good for USA in the World juniors. His shot impressed me big time.
I think they will hold onto him.

16 Jan 2018 23:19:27
Funny how everybody says no from Can but the guy who know who Bellows is says no form Isles. Bellows is really solid and unless NYI where In a big time playoff push you contend its ano from them. Good job yup for being educated about a really good forward prospect.

16 Jan 2018 23:47:21
Him and Midlestatd impressed me the most in the world juniors. Has a great shot, good vision. I think NYI will hold on to him. Especially for that D. Maybe a younger D, but not Tanev right now. If they want Tanev I think they would make different offers for him.

16 Jan 2018 07:38:45
Canucks: Tanev
Leafs: liljegren

Canucks: Vanek and Gudbranson
Islanders: first round pick

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16 Jan 2018 13:11:07
No from Leafs. Tanev is solid and on a good contract, and would look great with Rielly, but he’s made of glass. Leafs are going to need to hang on to as many players as they can who can have a positive impact while on their ELC to maintain cap flexibility once they sign the 3 kids to extensions. Liljegren is their best bet for that on defence.

16 Jan 2018 17:08:37
both trades are horrible. hell no from toronto. and maybe add a 3rd if you want a 1st from islanders.

16 Jan 2018 21:28:31
I’d do the 1st trade leafs could use a dman like Tanev.

16 Jan 2018 22:41:40
Hahaha ya Nylander you also think Marner is better than Mathews. That's a bad deal for Tor. They can get Tanev without giving away Liljigren.

16 Jan 2018 23:23:57
Yea let's trade a defensemen that has EK potential but probably will become more of a John Klingberg for a good but 9 year older and slower defensemen that hasn't played one full season yet. No way from Tor. Nylander you should be ashamed of yourself for considering this from Tor lol.

 


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