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Jul 30 2010 20:37:46
I'd take Kassain for Kabarle A good prospect for an old goat

Jul 30 2010 22:11:46
Many of my Fellow Leaf fans are making me embarrassed to be a supporter of the team.

The only way Jordan Staal is going over to Toronto is if you give up Tomas Kaberle and Luke Schenn. Even then Pittsburgh loves Staal and he is almost untouchable.

Or unless there is some sort of blockbuster trade involving decent leafs prospects/roster players.

Jul 30 2010 23:05:31
Proposed Trades Involving Tomas Kaberle

TORONTO: Peter Mueller and T.J. Galiardi
COLORADO: Tomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski, Luca
Caputi and John Mitchell

TORONTO: Thomas Vanek and Zack Kassian
BUFFALO: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin, John
Mitchell, Jerry D'Amigo and Tyler
Ruegsegger

TORONTO: Devin Setoguchi, Ryan Clowe and Logan
Couture
SAN JOSE: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and
Mikhail Grabovski

Jul 31 2010 02:04:42
Justin abdelkader, brad stuart, daniel cleary 2nd rd pick for jack johnson
fair or no?

Jul 30 2010 18:56:50
Looks like buffalo offered the leafs roy+ a 1st rd or kassian and burke turned it down.if this is true wtf is he doing???

Jul 30 2010 14:33:13
Kaberle, Hanson for Roy

Finger, Giliati for 3rd DP

Kadri-Roy-Kessel
Kulemin-Bozak-Versteeg
Caputi-Grabovski-Armstrong
Sjostrom-Mitchell-Orr
Mueller

Phaneuf-Schenn
Komisarek-Beauchemin
Gunnersson-Lebda
Rosehill

Rosehill can play both foward and defence, Kessel and Roy both produce point per game seasons and if Kadri stays on that line all season he gets 60 pts and is afinalist for Calder. Phaneuf/Schenn one of the best shutdown pairings in league.

Jul 30 2010 12:44:11
L.A-Was

Handzus, Johnson.J, Richardson for Semin

Semin-Kopitar-Poni
Smyth-Schenn-Brown
williams-Stoll-Moller
Parse-Azcevedo-Simmonds

Jul 30 2010 12:25:41
To the guy that thinks im a ducks fan im not im a leafs fan, kessel is way overrated, I think that that was the only bad thing burke has done since he got here, if he could do this trade the leafs would be in the playoffs next year,

people think so much of kessel but the truth is kulemin versteeg grabovski..etc are are better

Jul 30 2010 09:38:01
James Neal and Mike Ribeiro to Toronto
Gunner. and Garb. to Dallas.

Bank it.

Kabby sign's an extension.

Jul 30 2010 10:09:32
I heard a report that Toronto will send Kabarle, and all star centres Mitchell and Grabovski to Washington for Ovechkin, Green and Semin.

You can bank on it.

Jul 30 2010 10:27:44
To the guy that thinks Hodgson won't be traded. Vancouver had him on the block for the playoff drive last year and he wants out.He also make as much as the other 2 NHL players combined.

To the L.A guy that trade won't happen. Redden is way overpaid/overrated. Hickey will match his scoring in 3 years and Gaborik has one full season in the last 6. They will be better off offering a new deal to Kovalchuck or trading for Semin.

To the Ducks fan that thinks put in the Getzlaf trade, NO WAY. That's to much for him. With a top flight playmaker Kessel score 40 and Kadri is a top 6 talent on any team in 4 years. Yes Getzlaf is a top 6 player in the NHL but than who do the Leafs put with him.

Jul 29 2010 19:34:01
Kaberle and grabovski for Getzlaf, Bobby Ryan, Corey Perry and a 1st round draft pick.

Jul 29 2010 14:27:48
This will never happen but do you people think thuis is fair:

thomas hickey, jarrett stoll, justin williams, brayden schenn for marian gaborik, wade redden.

i don't know if this is close or far apart none of my teams i just heard something about this but LA doesn't want to give Schenn!

Jul 29 2010 15:11:13
No mater what Toronto offers Hodgson is staying in Vancouver. He's a big part their future so their not giving him up

Jul 29 2010 16:29:24
The leafs shoould trade kaberle kessel and kadri for ryan getzlaf and a 2nd rounder

Jul 29 2010 17:05:45
The Canucks aren't giving up Hodgson and you got to put in the cap factor too. The Canucks can't afford these players

Jul 29 2010 11:21:14
Kaberle for Savard, 2nd DP

Hanson, Sjostrom, Blacker for Hodgson

Finger for 5th DP

Kadri-Savard-Kessel
Kulemin-Bozak-Versteeg
Hodgson-Grabovski-Armstrong
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr
Mueller

Jul 28 2010 22:33:15
Proposed Trade Involving Tomas Kaberle

TORONTO: Peter Mueller and T.J. Galiardi
COLORADO: Tomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski, Luca
Caputi and John Mitchell

2010-2011 Maple Leaf forward complement

Kulemin Mueller Kessel
Galiardi Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Orr Hanson Brown

Jul 28 2010 16:46:20
TOR: SAVARD - WHEELER - 2RD
BOSTON: kABBY - GARB.

Jul 28 2010 13:22:06
Crosby, malkin, stall- kaberle

Jul 27 2010 20:38:21
Edm:Souray, Omark, 7th

NYI:Bailey, 4th

Jul 27 2010 22:07:33
TOR: Semin and Carlson
WSH: Kaberle and Schenn

ANA: Jeff Carter
PHI: Bobby Ryan

TOR: Stall
PIT: Kulemin, Grabovski, Mitchell, Caputi and a
second round pick in 2011

Semin Stall Kessel
Kadri Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Hanson Sjostrom

Jul 27 2010 23:10:31
TOR: Alexander Semin, Brooks Laich and John
Carlson
WSH: Tomas Kaberle, Mike Komisarek. Nikolai
Kulemin, Mikhail Grabovski, prospect Mikhail
Stefanovich and prospect Tyler Ruegsegger

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Carlson Schenn
Gunnarson Lebda

Semin Laich Kessel
Caputi Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Orr Hanson Brown

Jul 27 2010 20:35:46
Edm:Hemsky, 4th

Wash:Alzner

Jul 27 2010 20:36:51
Edm:Penner, Cogs, 3rd

Tor:Schenn

Jul 27 2010 20:27:15
Tor:Thomas Kaberle, Grabovski, John Mitchell and 3rd

Stl:Brad Boyes, Tj Oshie and Matt D'Agostini

Jul 27 2010 20:28:48
Tor:Kulemin, Blacker and Hanson

Van:Hodgson

Jul 27 2010 20:18:48
Tor: Thomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski and John Mitchell

Columbus:Brassard, 1st and Filitov

Jul 27 2010 17:58:14
Hey Line combo guy . you must be hot, maybe full of hot air? Anyways hot asian chick wants what you are having. Care to meet up and de-stress yourself? I think what you mean't to say sweetheart is Brad Boyes for Tomas Kaberle straight up G. Luv ya.

Jul 27 2010 18:22:37
I like the Columbus deals but I would rather take the first one. Columbus has the cap space for both Finger and Kaberle, and Finger would be a solid 4th or 5th d-man. We also get back a draft pick in the deal. The Leafs have some yound defenceman prospects already with 2 young guys in the NHL. I would rather have the pick and the cap space. This deal actually works for both teams.

Jul 27 2010 15:48:31
Hey Line combo guy .. are you clueless or what? Brad Boyes AND David Backes for a bag full of Leaf cancers? That is some good grade medical marijuana you are on. And again with the dumb line combosPRICELESS

Jul 27 2010 15:29:53
Frolov signed with the Rangers.
Ponikarovsky signed with the Kings.

Details to come.

Jul 27 2010 13:54:19
Pretty sure Columbus would like to trade for Tomas Kaberle but only if he is willing to sign a contract extension. Look for the rumors to heat up by the end of the week with Derick Brassard coming back to Toronto. The deal could look like this Kaberle and Grabovski.. to Columbus .. for Brassard , prospect defenceman Cody goloubev plus salary back

Jul 27 2010 14:24:36
TOR/STL Potential Trade - Plan C (final)

TOR: David Backes and Brad Boyes
STL: Tomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski and John
Mitchell (maybe prospects)

Backes Boyes Kessel
Kulemin Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Orr Hanson Brown

Jul 27 2010 12:04:16
Kaberle, Hanson, Finger for Brassard, 1st DP, Methot

Kadri-Brassard-Kessel
Kulemin-Bozak-Versteeg
Caputi-Grabovski-Armstrong
Mueller-Mitchel-Orr
Sjostrom

Phanuef-Komisarek
Schenn-Gunnersson
Beauchemin-Lebda
Aulie

Gustavsson-Giguere

5th-8th Seed

Jul 27 2010 11:44:23
What is wrong with Grabovski? Sure he has a faceoff percentage of 45. What team would not want a 3rd line centre who hits, doesn't back down and gets you 50 pts a season. The Leafs will not win the cup in the next 3 years, sorry fans. Bozak as a #2 and Grabovski as a #3. Kaberle nets a #1 with a another player. Move Kadri to the wing and your top 6 wingers are Kessel, Kadri, Versteeg, Kulemin, Armstrong and Caputi. Not great but not terrible. There is nothing wrong with a 3 rd line of Grabovski, Armstrong and Caputi. Finger is one of the better 5/6th dman in the league. The only problem is his contract(which is not his fault). They have one of the best defence cores in the league. A true playmaker for the first line will help the Leafs be a low playoff seed next season.

Jul 27 2010 08:45:21
I agree with the comments below

It's funny how we hate and boo Bryan McCabe YET out of all the Muskoka 5 that refused to waic=ve their no trades Tucker got us nothing ..Sundin got us nothing and Kabarle continues to be brutal defensevily and has got us .. nothing.

Kabarle should have been booed out of town a lonfg time ago, yet the fans love him, and he wears the assistant captain on his jersey?

Carter AND a first rounder.

Jul 26 2010 23:52:40
Kaberlov better get traded soon or it is gonna be Burke's ass out of Toronto. I don't care who they get for him even if it is Rob Schremp. Kaberlov should have been forced with a gun to his head to waive his no trade clause so the Leafs could have picked up a first rd pick plus Jeff Carter when it was offered to them two years ago.

If Kaberlov comes back which is the equivalent of murder suicide, I urge all Corporate dickheads and the few Leaf fans who can actually afford to pay top dollar for mediocrity to boycott all 2010-2011 NHL home games at ACC. The corporate jerkoffs at MLSE need to suffer long and hard financially just like the rest of us. Oh and by the way screw the Teacher's Pension Fund they can afford to suffer too.

Jul 26 2010 21:02:15
Kabby is not going anywhere. We better get ready for that.

Jul 26 2010 19:47:03
Trade Between The Leafs and Oilers

TOR: Dustin Penner and Sam Gagner
EDM: Tomas Kaberloff, John Mitchelle, Fredrick
Sjostrom and prospects Luca Caputi in my
pants and Tyler Ruegsegger

Jul 26 2010 18:58:18
Steven Weiss and Marty Reasoner for Matt Stajan, Ryan Stone and a pick

For The Flames: They are in need of a goal scoring forward and that's the type of opportunity that he brings

For the Panthers: Pick's are what Florida needs right now with a talented roster in the making it's a good deal

Jul 26 2010 17:34:40
Kaberle for Brassard, 1st DP

Grabovski, Blacker, Hanson for Hodgson

Finger for 4th DP

Columbus gets the PP quaterback they need.
Vancouver gets a solid 3rd line centre and depth up front and rids themselves of a player who doesn't want to be there.
Toronto gets a 1st line centre and cap space

Jul 26 2010 17:40:56
In his rookie season, Mikhail Grabovski led all Eastern Conference rookies with 20 goals and 48 points. He also had tremendous speed and makes only 2 million and change a season. With a cap hit of less than 3 million a year, he is an attractive option for teams struggling to get under the salary cap by trading a player for him with a large cap hit--for example the Marc Savard situation in Boston. If you knew anything about the NHL in the salary cap era, this would not have to be explained to you.

"There are no stupid comments, just stupid people."

Jul 26 2010 16:46:50
GUYS!!

I understand as Leaf fans that you are hoping for some huge deal with big names to 'spruce up' the Leafs roster..

Problem: Pretty much every Leaf rumour involves the Leafs dealing Grabhovski (misspelled I am sure). He has no value to teams. He is barely an NHL caliber player with a terrible attitude. Everyone knows it. Its so rare to see a rumour or coach potato GM post anyting close to realistic on this site. reading it is more for humour than any kind of hockey rumour that is legit..

Keep the funny talk coming Leaf fans..Maybe some GM will read your posts and actaully trade you their NHL quality players for the Leafs crap!

Hey, maybe Finger and Grabs for Carter???

Jul 26 2010 16:07:22
You won't get anything for Grabovski so stop offering him up dumby

Jul 26 2010 15:45:50
The NYI - Columbus trades are hysterical. If I was a NYI Columvbus fan Toronto trades you all their junk ..for your first round selections the past few years? You might as well offer the same for Crosby Malkin and Fleury or Kane Toews and Seabrook. I can't believe someone would waste our time like that. And then draw up line combinations. What a tool.

Jul 26 2010 14:16:07
Kaberle, Grabovski, Giliati, for Brassard, Filitov, Sesisto,
Hanson, Sjostrom 1stDP

Finger, Blacker, for 2ndDP

Caputi-Brassard-Kessel
Versteeg-Bozak-Armstrong
Kulemin-Kadri-Filitov
Mueller-Mitchell-Orr

Jul 26 2010 15:33:54
Toronto:
D. Brassrad
N. Filatov
J. Voracek
J.Moore

Columbus:
T. Kaberle
M. Grabovski
N. Kulemin

This trade free up cap space for leafs and get good top six players. Kulemin replaces Voracek, Grabovski is a good 2nd center behind Umberger and Filatov and Brassard for Kaberle. It's a win for both organizations they each get what they need Columbus a puck moving and experienced D and replacements for who left and Toronto get young potential top line forwards.

Toronto:
M. Komisarek
M. Stefanovich

N.Y. Islanders:
J. Bailey
C. de Haan

Toronto give up Komisarek for cap space and a young forward. Islanders get a hometown boy and a young Captain in Komisarek that would help Tavares and the young players comming through the system. Toronto get de Haan for the Marlies to play with Aulie and in a couple of year probably be a good top 6 D.

Versteeg- Brassard- Kessel
Filatov- Bailey- Voracek
Armstrong- Bozak- Kadri
Sjostrom- Mitchell- Brown (Orr)

Schenn- Phaneuf
Beauchemin- Finger
Lebda- Gunnarsson

Giguere
Gustavsson

This Team has a cap hit of around 53 million. This leaves Toronto with cap space to resign Schenn, Bailey, Bozak and supporting cast. Bozak, if signed, will be more cap friendly. This gives Toronto's prospects time to develop for 2-3 years in AHL then come to the NHL.

Jul 26 2010 13:49:54
To the guy who wants to trade kessel you are right that's what ive been saying since the day they got him

Jul 26 2010 12:53:37
Hello to the individual who wrote the below,

Jul 26 2010 10:51:56
In response to a few of the rumors out there.
1) Bolland is not and never will be close to a #1 centre
2) Neal is not worth both Kaberle and a top prospect. Will be a solid top 6 player.
3) If DAL gives up Richards they would want picks and prospects. His contract is off the books next year and don't want additional salaries.

Did anybody ever believe that Doug Gilmour back in 92-93 and 93-94 would be a number one centre for a team let alone the Leafs? Bolland can be that type of player in Toronto. I don't understand why Neal and Kaberle are being mentionned as possible trade bait for one another when Neal can be signed to an offer sheet and at most, the Leafs could give up a second round pick plus a prospect and not even have to part with Kaberle in a Neal trade. Dallas is not going to trade Brad Richards period.

Jul 26 2010 13:12:54
Leafs should trade Kessel I mean really this pint size guy just isn't the mould for what Brian Burke wants to build.

Jul 26 2010 13:13:33
I'll give you Jeff Finger for James Neal Take it or leave it

Jul 26 2010 10:55:50
James Neal is a bad player Doesn't bring anything to the table except maybe floating.

Jul 26 2010 11:00:02
If Burke trades Kaberle and picks up another NHL defenceman the Leafs will be in the same boat as they are in now. To many dmen being paid over 1 mil dollars. Is Burke really the great GM he thinks he is? He gives up more than he had to for Kessel because of his pride and now when things are getting closer to resolving the Kaberle trade he goes on a cell phone free fishing trip. Deal with your business first or at least be available in case a great offer comes in. The 2 things the Leafs have an abundance of is wingers and dmen and that's what Burke is going to give us in the Kaberle trade. Yes he is a good hockey man but I would not put him in the top 5 GM's in the league.

Jul 26 2010 11:04:57
2 possible trades that could work for both teams

Kaberle, Caputi, Grabovski, for VanRiemsdyk, Carter
Devane

OR

Kaberle, Caputi, Grabovski for Brassard, Filitov

If Filitov is guarenteed to play in the NHL this season you would have to give up more

Jul 26 2010 10:51:56
In response to a few of the rumors out there.
1) Bolland is not and never will be close to a #1 centre
2) Neal is not worth both Kaberle and a top prospect. Will be a solid top 6 player.
3) If DAL gives up Richards they would want picks and prospects. His contract is off the books next year and don't want additional salaries.

Jul 26 2010 10:34:07
Neal is heading towards Tor. I'm telling you boyz. Just give it time.

Jul 26 2010 10:38:50
Marc savard is the the most overrated player in the nhl neal and benn are two of the most underrated

Jul 26 2010 10:26:59
Nael and Bean are not that good. Anyone who ever watched them play (I have on satalite0 will tell you we are better off with Wayne Primeau and Rickard Wallin.

Burke if you are reading this, get anything you can for Kabarle ANYTHING.. because he has to go. Then pick up a Mark Savard and then we are ready to go !

Jul 26 2010 09:45:46
Okay first of all its benn not bean and neal and benn are both top six forwards not "grinding wingers"

Jul 26 2010 09:19:34
The Toronto Maple Leafs have plenty of grinding wingers and do not need a Neal or a Bean They need talent on the top 6 posistions. C'mon guys, think about it.

Jul 25 2010 20:34:55
Im not the guy who loves neal, im the guy who is a backes, ryan crusader.but i can tell you all some facts..dallas does not want to sign anyone long term..neal wants a long term contract.dallas is for sale and 1yr contracts are actually benificial for the sale transition.

dallas has a glutten of wingers all of them will be wanting big contracts all in the same time frame..brad richards , daley, sutherby, (and of course kaberle if he gets moved) will all be delt at the trade deadline, now that's a nice rebuild for a new ownership.

oh yeah, neal is a local kid who wants to be a leaf

Jul 25 2010 21:23:45
I'd take neal over van Riemsdyk any day of the week..also take neal over clowe out of san jose..

Jul 25 2010 22:23:18
Jeff Finger and Mikhail Grabovski for Brian Campbell

Jul 26 2010 03:24:15
This one is for the guy who seems to think Dallas has no interest in Tomas Kaberle, Please name me one defenceman on the Stars that has any offensive ability. Sorry , , times up! You, my friend are the one who is clueless so shake you head and think again and please dazzle us with more of your pearls of wisdom instead of critisizing other people `s posts. Kaberle for Neal is a plausible trade offer,

Jul 25 2010 20:18:46
Kaberla who. Kabala what. Can somebody spell the player`s last name right! This player has been in the rumor mill for the past couple of years. You would think by now somebody would spell this guy`s last name right.

Jul 25 2010 20:06:03
TOR: Jeff Carter, Ville Leino and Braydon Coburn
PHI: Tomas Kaberle, Luke Schenn, Nikolai Kulemin,
Mikhail Grabovski and prospects Keith
Aulie/Tyler Ruegsegger

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Lebda Coburn
Gunnarson Komisarek

Orr Carter Kessel
Leino Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Rosehill Hanson Brown

Jul 25 2010 20:06:57
Kaberle is going to philly or san jose, the deals are similar to the ones below, a 3yr extension will be signed by kaberle at 4.85 (plus a bonus clause) range. the longshot teams are NJ/ANA/LA/BOS/STL and yes TOR.

clowe/ferrerio/4th for kaberle/6th

vanreimsdyk/couburn for kaberle/rynnas/blacker

philly deal seems too sweet, but the buzz about vanreimsdyk should hit the toronto rumor world soon, the other part of the deal is burke is to cease from the neal sweepstakes, so philly is after neal and toronto is close.leaf fans.neal or vanreimsdyk ?

Jul 25 2010 19:38:32
TOR: Brian Campbell and Dave Bolland
CHI: Tomas Kaberle, John Mitchell and Mikhail
Grabovski

Here is why the trade makes sense for both teams. CHI has been looking to move Campbell's 7.0 mil contract. The Leafs as a condition of obtaining Campbell also acquire their number 1 centre to play with Kessel in Bolland. From the CHI side of things, the deal with Toronto saves them cash that they in turn can use to sign Niemi. From the TOR side, in order to remain under the cap to accomodate the salary coming in, Jeff Finger's contract gets buried in the minors.

It is still possible the Leafs could make a pitch for James Neal but it would have to be a deal that includes prospects/picks plus a roster player or two (Caputi, Sjostrom, Hanson, Ruegsegger, D'Amigo etc.)

Potential Defense Pairings

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Campbell Komisarek
Gunnarson Schenn
Lebda

Potential Leaf Forward Complements

Neal Bolland Kessel
Kulemin Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Mueller
Orr Deveaux Brown

Jul 25 2010 16:44:18
If Burke can squeeze Brassard out of columbus..well, that would be huge for the leafs, despite a tail off on his production last year, he has gobs of potential, and I think he would thrive as a leaf..barring that, clowe would be a nice fit, as would neal or benn out of dallas..there is something brewing for kaberle..maybe burke could pull off another phaneuf type deal for one of the names above and still hold onto kaberle? kadri is unproven at the nhl level, but I think he will surprise a few come the fall..

Jul 25 2010 17:38:27
To the guy who posts every five meinutes on here and is in love with James Neal. Explain to me why a rebuilding - financial strapped Dallas org, feels the need for a 32 yr old multi million dollar defenseman, and give up a promising younger cheaper player??

It doesn't make sense hence no one takes your posts seriously. But you keep posting since it some how makes you feel good.

Jul 25 2010 14:06:32
Ruling out Bobby Ryan, Jordan Staal, Brad Richards who have no chance of being Maple Leafs, , , , , , who are your top 5 picks to be Leafs this season My top 5 would include: 1 - James Neal 2. - Derick Brassard 3.- Jamie Benn 4. - Wayne Simmonds 5.- Travis Zajac .. Who would your top 5 be?

Jul 25 2010 14:12:38
The Leafs have no interest in Clowe or Neal? Stop posting because you are either ill-informed or clueless. The Sharks bidding Clowe for Kaberle is currently the offer to beat. Burke is merely holding out for higher bidders--if the offer is not topped, Clowe will be a leaf.

If the Leafs can move/bury Grabovski/Finger they will have room for a player like James Neal. And would be very interested, because he is a big power forward with great scoring ability and huge upside.

Finally, Spezza is not coming to the Leafs.

3 Strikes; you're out.

Jul 25 2010 14:26:20
No interest in neal or clowe? why would they take on spezzas contract? and why would the sens want kaberle when they just signed gonchar.personally i think neal is a perfect fit for the leafs

Jul 25 2010 09:44:59
The Leafs continue to have no interest in Neal or Clowe

Brian Burke is looking to make a big splash with Kabarle, and wants to fetch a big name player in return.

I am hearing Jason Spezza for Kabarle&Bozak.

Jul 24 2010 19:42:09
I just want kaberle to get traded allready either get neal or clowe and move on for gods sake

Jul 24 2010 19:54:56
OK boyz, here's the latest. I'm not playing with your hearts either. This is my word.

My boss was at the bar WHERE James Neal girlfriend works at. Yes she does work and YES she has had work done on her. (very nice I here). He flat out asked her what was going on with Neal. Her anwswer was he will be part of the Leafs in the next few days. No word of a lie. She did not know that whole details but it's going to come out soon to the media.

I like it so far lets just see what goes back.

Jul 24 2010 21:50:58
Tomas Kaberle and Kenny Ryan for Jamie Benn and James Neal.

Jul 24 2010 23:04:58
TOR: Logan Couture and Devin Setoguchi
SJS: Tomas Kaberle, John Mitchell and Mikhail
Grabovski

Jul 24 2010 23:31:52
What did the five Fingers say to the face?
Answer: Slap to the Leafs.

Burke, would you trade Kaberle now already? Honestly, what do you think you're gonna get Ovechkin, Crosby, Stills and Nash? Perhaps Hall and Oates? Wait a minute Hull and Oates played together in St. Louis and were the highest scoring duo in that period. Maybe Burkie is stuck in the 80's and 90's. Come on damn it.

Jul 25 2010 01:28:27
N.Y. Islanders:
Komisarek
Kulemin
Caputi

Toronto:
Bailey
Okposo
Nino Niederreiter
Calvin de Haan

Jul 25 2010 01:41:07
You Dummies still talking about the Leafs getting Carter and Staal. Get it through your head Leafs will trade with Buffalo, New Jersey LA or Sanjose

Jul 24 2010 14:10:48
Despite the rumor of Kaberle for Neal, I would take Jamie Benn over Neal in a heartbeat. Just imagine Benn and Versteeg playing together on a line with Kulemin. Burkie, do whatever it takes!

Jul 24 2010 12:18:58
I can prove your rumour wrong because the leafs can't trade exelby hes a ufa not an rfa

Jul 24 2010 11:59:13
See there is this new rumor going around and it goes something like this.

TOR: Fabian Brunnstrom, James Neal and Jeff
Woywitka
DAL: Tomas Kaberle, John Mitchell, Garnet Exelby,
Mikhail Grabovski and prospect Mikhail
Stefanovich.

Read it and weep cause T.O. has something else up it's sleeve and could involve the departure of Nikolai Kulemin as part of a package for a number 1 centre (Jeff Carter or Jordan Stall)

Jul 23 2010 18:34:55
I heard the same rumour regarding kaberle and neal, but d'amigo is doing very well and the leafs just lost 4 prospects obtaining versteeg.

neal straight up for kaberle would have been done months ago if kaberle would sign a extension..

straight up still may work.

Jul 23 2010 12:52:04
There is broad speculation that Toronto defenceman Tomas Kaberle has finally found a new home! As early as Monday, Brian Burke will announce that the Leafs have traded Kaberle as well as prospect Jerry D`Amigo to Dallas in return for winger James Neal. Take it to the bank!

Jul 22 2010 18:45:13
There is a rumor that Detroit wants a good defensemen for when lidstrom retires and they want him now. Main target is jack johnson and the deal is believed to include justin abdelkader, brad stuart, and more but full details havent come out!

Jul 22 2010 18:48:05
To the perosn that is saying thta filppula has no interest the guy is young can be played on the top 6. Had 35 points in 55 games which means he can easily get to 60 points. i do understand on cleary though he is old and does not produce as much buit i still see him as a brian burke player.

Jul 22 2010 17:42:08
To the person that is clearly a detroit fan you are putting the value in your players way too high, fillpula has almost no value around the league whatsoever and same with dan cleary

Jul 22 2010 14:36:38
Detroit's valtteri filppula and 2nd round pick for Toronto's tomas kaberle.

Detroit gives brian rafaski, daniel cleary for Anaheim's bobby ryan

Jul 22 2010 11:45:11
Sign Kovalchuck 3 yrs 9.5 mil per year

Kaberle for 1st DP(2011), 2nd DP(2012)-SJ

Grabovski, Komisarek, Giliati for Roy, Gerbe

Finger, 7th DP for 4th DP

T.O gets a #1 centre and draft picks

SJ gets a PP quaterback

BUF gets a top defenceman

Jul 22 2010 10:21:03
Duke, who are the prospects and who gives them up?

Jul 21 2010 20:08:00
Perhaps this could work:

Three way trade Philly, San Jose and Toronto

To Philly: 1st round pick (San Jose) 2 prospects I major 1 minor

To San Jose: Tomas Kaberle and Mikaheil Grabovski

To Toronto: Jeff Carter, Ryan Clowe

Duke

Jul 21 2010 20:24:11
Tomas Kaberle for Brandon Dubinsky and Marc Stall
Yeah Buoy.

Jul 21 2010 20:51:40
TOR: Alexander Semin
WSH: Tomas Kaberle and Mikhail Grabovski

TOR: Jordan Stall
PIT: Luke Schenn, Nikolai Kulemin and prospect
Jerry D'Amigo

Jul 21 2010 21:36:24
Rumor:

To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle + Prospect

To Toronto: Travis Zajac + David Clarkson

Jul 21 2010 18:56:11
Kolvalchuk to Toronto 3 yrs 9mill per

Jul 21 2010 17:27:09
Just remember guys that for every dollar that comes to the Leafs one dollar has to go out. Kovalchuck would be great but that's 9 mil that has to go out. If you cut Finger you still have to pay part his salary for the remainder of his contract. It would be better to trade him for a 5th or 6th round pick. Get rid of Kaberle and Finger and that's 8.5 mil out, the Leafs are already 1/4 of a mil over plus what 1/2 mil on Kovalchuck's contract.

Jul 21 2010 16:27:44
The terrible thing for my bruins is that its being heard the leafs are offering kolvalchuk 3 years at 9mil per.
They can still trade kaberle for a 1st line center (i hope here for savard).
that would make them have;
Kolvalchuk, Savard, Kessel
Kulemin, Bozak, Versteeg
for a top 6 and let kadri develop more ):

bottom 6 would be solid to unfortunatly.
Torres(i believe he signs here), Mitchell, Armstrong
Sjoustrom, a tradeee, Brown/Orr

D,
Phaneuf, Beauschimin
Schenn, Komisarek
Gunnarson, Lebda
with finger getting sent to minors on the last cut

Hopefully the goaltending will have another off year or we won't have another 2nd overall pick ):

Jul 21 2010 16:18:30
I think kabbie will get traded to Sj for clowe and a prospect or a picknot both. and i really hope burkie signs neal to an offer sheet at aroung 3-3.5 per year.

Jul 21 2010 14:03:26
Just because someone puts C.B at the bottom doesn't mean it's always the same person. People are making some stupid comments and putting that at the bottom because they are scared to sound like a moron.Put your own name at the bottom.

Jul 21 2010 13:13:50
At this point Brian Burke has to make a move for Marc Savard

Jul 21 2010 12:33:12
July 21
Heard Schenn and a pick for Hemsky and Cogliano.

Jul 21 2010 12:36:17
Koivu just signed for 7 years to stay in Minn

Dumb idea

Jul 21 2010 12:18:48
3 way Trade

ANA- Burns, Devane, Sjostrom

MIN- Kaberle, Grabovski, Stefanovich, Oreskovic, 2011 2nd DP(T.O)

T.O- Ryan, Koivu

Jul 21 2010 12:12:06
Tomas Kabarle is a brilliant passer, but he is a brutal defender

CB

Jul 21 2010 11:48:38
To the knob that feels obligated to leave his mark CB after every post even though we all know you are posting as several people, even Nik Lidstrom could play his position and clear away his net.

Kabarle is terrified of ANY physical contact. I know you don t have to be a punishing defenseman, but if you are a afraid of your own shadow, then maybe Tomas should take up figure skating

Jul 21 2010 12:01:50
Who is the punk that has to insult people because they don't agree. Real matureI'm sure people will see your views differently now

Jul 21 2010 10:26:42
To the guy who thinks you have to be a physical defenceman to be in the NHL, you're an idiot. There is a defenceman out there with 6 Norris trophies and has never had more than 50 penalty minutes in a season. He doesn't fight or clear the net with force. He plays smart positional hockey. I'm not sying Kaberle is as good but it shows you can be a hall of fame dman nowadays and not be a bruiser. The other dman is Lidstrom. Don't speak until something intelligent comes out.

C.B

Jul 20 2010 21:57:23
I sure am happy that you guys are ready to dump kaberle for garbage, at least burke has standards and respect for top notch talent, you friggin plugs make john ferguson jr look like einstein.

my prediction is clowe/ferrerio/pick for kaberle

you guys make your predictions and we will see who's deal is closer, please don't change your silly thoughts on kaberle's value or worse chicken out.

Jul 20 2010 22:22:02
TOR: Brooks Laich and Alexander Semin
WSH: Tomas Kaberle, Mike Komisarek, Mikhail
Grabovski, John Mitchell and prospect Mikhail
Stefanovich

TOR: Marc Stall
NYR: Luke Schenn

TOR: Jordan Stall
PIT: Brooks Laich and Nikolai Kulemin

TOR: Sign James Neal to an offer sheet of 4 years
and $12 million dollars. Leafs to surrender a
2011 second round pick plus forward Luca
Caputi

Jul 20 2010 20:16:18
Kabarle is an iron man because he has never had any physical contact with any other player.

Never thrown a body check. Never cleared away the front of a net, never fought for position.

And this is in a contact sport

Imagine.

Oh yeah, and I'm not a child, and I have been to many, many Leafs games. (to th person whoi turns into a loser and name calls everyone who doesn't agree with his goofy comments) I think you are Jame Neal's kid brother.

Jul 20 2010 21:08:49
With exception to the 2008-2009 season where he missed 20-some-odd games due to injury, Kaberle has consistently been inside the top ten point scorers of all defencemen in the NHL each regular season--on a suspect team. Do not kid yourself--the price tag on a defenceman as offensively gifted as Kaberle will warrant nothing short of a superb top six forward, or a top six-forward and change (draft pick or prospect).

Though many of the proposed deals involving Kaberle some of you have put forward sound intriguing and plausible for both sides involved, don't be surprised if Burke pulls a rabbit out of his hat and makes a trade completely off the radar.

Nobody predicted Phaneuf coming to Toronto.

Jul 20 2010 20:03:03
Would agree Leafs won't get much for Kabarle cause he has to go.

Who is the tool that thought the Leafs can get Clowe AND A PICK AND A PROSPECT? You are kid for sure.

Jul 20 2010 20:01:16
The same guy goes on and on about Backes, Neal and Clowe. for Kabarle. You must have rocks for brains. That ain't happening. Grow up

Jul 20 2010 19:31:14
Kaberle is iron-man, gagne is glass-man. gagne makes a million more than kaberle&plays 50% less games than kaberle.

so what everyone knows burke is shopping kaberle, guy is a great on the PP, the real offers will come.

what defenceman will be feed'n kovalchuck on the powerplay this year ? is doughty or boyle or green planning to play 40 minutes per game ? hedman and ohlund 1-2 punch ? St.Louis to torture their fowards with 18 yr old defencemen passing off the glass all year ?

Jul 20 2010 19:05:45
All-star QB defencemen are pretty rare.

Elias, Lidstrom, Drury, Sundin, Cherry, Bowman have all stated how good this guy is at controlling a powerplay and pace, that's some talented experience talkin. leafs won't trade him for a 3rd liner, they have twenty 3rd/4th liners.

burke's not bluffin, there's nothing wrong with keeping a player like kaberle, but ther's lots wrong with trading kaberle for a 3rd line plugger and a crap pick.

no dreamers here, kaberle is a talented powerplay specialist that will net a top line power foward and possibly a decent sniper.

kaberle/grabovski for backes/perron.

Jul 20 2010 18:34:21
Lol, you just missed it, i thot you would get it and laugh right away, im actually concerned now, if you really, i mean honestly think

kaberle/prospect/pick for clowe

your obviously a child or a adult with some kind of challenge, good luck, with trade idea's like the one above you will need it, amusing chat in any event.

Jul 20 2010 18:26:50
Undervaluing Kabarle? What happened to Simon Gagne? What are the ridiculiois offers for Mark Savar (Grabovski) ? What happens when the whole world knows you have to move a particular player?

With -7- other NHL defensemen will Burke really call his own bluff and NOT trade Kabarle if he doesn't get what he wants?

Kabarle HAS to move , and the Leafs have ZERO interest in keeping/resigning. Anyone who thinks otherwise is cklueless.

Therefore what do you really expect for Kabarle. I'd look at the Philly Tampa trade Maybe we'll score a 3rd line forward and a 4th round pick.

But everyone on here likes to dream.

Jul 20 2010 18:10:13
OMG I clearly wrote

A pick a prospect and Kabarle for Clowe

instead of

A pick, a prospect and Clowe for Kabarle

Not the exact same, read it slowly

who's the pylon?

Jul 20 2010 16:49:11
Its a suggestion of what it would take to nix a trade, not a suggestion of a even swap, read slowly if you need to glue guy. who called clowe/demers/pick for kaberle dumb ? your suggestion, clowe/prospect/pick is brilliant ? its the same deal pylon.

burke is waiting for teams who are a piece or two away from a stanley cup run to up thier offers, VAN, SJ, NJ, LA, so yes, kaberle will fetch alot more than anyone thinks or he will retire a leaf.

everyone is undervaluing kaberle, yes he's no willie mitchell defensivley, but he's top 3 on the powerplay and he will sign a extension with a contender, that alone makes him a huge asset

again the "no interest guy" chimes in with no reasons or info to support, your my favirote, everyone who reads knows burke has been after backes for almost 2 years.

Jul 20 2010 15:15:45
Brown or Schenn for Kabarle? How much glue you sniff?

Jul 20 2010 15:28:12
Both Washington and Buffalo only have -5- NHL defensmen on their rosters for next year.

Kabarle could be bound for either of these teams.

Jul 20 2010 14:32:53
The Minnisota Wild have interest in Tomas Kabarle as do the Capitals .stay tuned.

Jul 20 2010 14:34:17
The Leafs have no interest in David Backes

Jul 20 2010 14:29:49
Clowe Demers AND A PICK?? C'mon man thatis just dumb. Mayb a prospect a pick anKabarle for Clowe. is more realistic

Jul 20 2010 13:49:29
Clowe-demers-5th round pick

for

kaberle

this deal will happen just to keep kabbie away from LA, the only two players lombardi can offer to stop SJ from obtaining kaberle is dustin brown or brayden schenn

outside shot is zajac from the devils, and backes from st.louis.

Jul 20 2010 14:00:04
Bill Sweatt IS NO LONGER A LEAF ! SO stop trading him

Jul 20 2010 13:08:52
Kabarle to LA for Moller and Hickey

Jul 20 2010 12:31:14
Whoever puts claim into owning the rumor: Kaberle to sharks for Clowe and Setoguchi needs to retake the HOCKEY 101 course. There is NO WAY - San Jose would trade Setoguchi straight up for Kaberle, let alone both of them. Wake up!

Jul 20 2010 11:06:28
Swaett is no longer a Leaf

Now that Tampa landed Gagne they have the french cnnection won't trade Lecaviler.

Hanson is not worth trading he has no value.

The Leafs have zero interest in Semin.

The Leafs have zero interest in James Neal.

Any sensible possibilities, let me know

Jul 20 2010 09:48:06
Leafs have no interest in neal ? 6'3 200lbs 27 goals and 200 shots on net ?

you want sensible, leafs can't score goals, neal scores goals, leafs need fowards with size, neal has size, he's affordable&wants a long term contract, young, fast, durable.

please explain how you know leafs have zero interset in neal, im quite interested.

Jul 20 2010 10:41:48
The trade rumor involing Kaberle, Grabovski for Setoguchi and Clowe looks really good at first glance but more moves will have to happen before or after that trade could go down.
1) They would have 14 wingers on their roster. That doesn't include the possibility of Kadri or Hanson moving to the wing.
2) The Leafs are already over the cap. Setoguchi will want close to $4, 000,000 per year as a 23 year 30 goal scorer.That puts the Leafs close to the milllion dollar mark over the cap.
3) They have seven defenceman on the roster with Lebda making over 1 million as a seventh dman. That doesn't include the 2 defenceman in the minors who are NHL ready.
Burke's job is still not over. Is he comfortable as Bozak and Kadri as your top 2 centres.
We will wait and see.

C.B

Jul 20 2010 09:38:39
Leafs have no interest in neal ? 6'3 200lbs 27 goals and 200 shots on net ?

you want sensible, leafs can't score goals, neal scores goals, leafs need fowards with size, neal has size, he's affordable&wants a long term contract, young, fast, durable.

please explain how you know leafs have zero interset in neal, im quite interested.

Jul 20 2010 09:13:42
The one who posted about clowe and setagoshi for kaberle shut up its not your rumor, look down it was mine you grease ball.
stop stealing other peoples stuff i said that trade would happen since the draft

Jul 20 2010 04:15:03
Trade Rumor (A real one)

The Leafs and Sharks have apparently held talks about trading Setogutchi and Clowe to the Leafs for Kaberle and Grabovski

The Source

Jul 19 2010 20:48:02
TOR: Jordan Stall and Marc Stall
NYR: Tomas Kaberle, John Mitchell and prospects
Bill Sweatt and Mikhail Stefanovich
PIT: Brandon Dubinsky, Nikolai Kulemin, Mikhail
Grabovski

Sign James Neal and give up your 2011 second round pick along with Luca Caputi.

Get er done Burkie!

Jul 19 2010 23:58:10
Swaett is no longer a Leaf

Now that Tampa landed Gagne they have the french cnnection won't trade Lecaviler.

Hanson is not worth trading he has no value.

The Leafs have zero interest in Semin.

The Leafs have zero interest in James Neal.

Any sensible possibilities, let me know

Jul 19 2010 20:10:53
When is Burke going to trade Kaberle? Don't tell me the Leafs should be patient. They have had over two years to trade this guy. Burke is dragging this thing on way too long. Now that Kovalchuk has finally made up his mind that Devil S.O.B. and Gagne is now a Lightning player, Kaberle has to go.

TOR: Dubinsky, Stall
NYR: Kaberle, Mitchell, Grabovski and Sweatt

TOR: Sign James Neal already and surrender the
second round pick in 2011 along with forward
Luca Caputi

Bettman and GM's scrap the current collective bargaining agreement with the players. Down with no trade/no movement clauses and remove all protections for UFA's, RFA's. Professional athletes should be treated just like other ordinary civilians. If you don't perform, then have your ass removed.

Jul 19 2010 19:13:56
Pressure's on NJ, i hate kovy, but honestly, he is the most dangerous player in the world on the PP, and really, no use having kovy if you don't have a QB like kaberle feed'n him one-timers.

kaberle/low prospect for zajac; kovy needs a QB, toronto needs a centreman with size/hands.

kaberle for neal; neal wants long term, dallas does not want long term deals signed until sale finalized, dallas has no QB, however stars are busting with 6 top big wingers.

schenn/gunnarsson/caputi for ryan; ryan has turned down big money from anaheim 3 times. anaheim will take any decent deal before a offer sheet comes in and they are forced to overpay to keep bobby, or worse lose him to a rival/great team for high picks in a bad draft, anaheim's D is the worst in the NHL hands down.

in-burke-we-trust

grabovski for rupp (a little fast useless centre for a big massive nasty centre)

Jul 19 2010 18:16:29
Rumor:

To Toronto: Vincent Lecavalier

To Tampa Bay: Tomas Kaberle and a prospect

Jul 19 2010 17:02:48
Kaberle, Hanson for Roy

Grabovski, Sjostrom for Fehr, 3rdDP

Jul 19 2010 16:47:52
I think most of u are off the rocker, iam a leaffan and 95 percent of these trade arent even possible, can we not make it interseting by putting in some actual posible trades and not this made up crap..

Jul 19 2010 13:32:13
Komisarek, Grabovski, Hanson, for Richards, Benn, Neal
Sweatt, Sjostrom

Kaberle, Giguere for Semin, 3rd DP

Finger, Giliati for Labarbera, 4th DP

Semin-Richards-Kessel
Kulemin-Bozak-Versteeg
Neal-Kadri-Armstrong
Benn-Mitchell-Orr
Brown

Phaneuf-Schenn
Beauchemin-Gunnersson
Lebda-Aulie

Gustavsson-Labarbera

Jul 19 2010 10:47:03
In the last CBA agreement teams cannot trade players signed as UFA's from another team for 1 season. It protects the player from being used to sign sign with a teamthan the players are traded. The rumor involving Kaberle to SJ with Setogucchi coming to T.O would be nice. A player under 25 who can score 30 goals a season is nice but straight up I don't know. It is an overrated opinion that you need a 90-100 point player as your #1 centre. ST.L, PHX, FLA, COLU and EDM don't have what people would classify as a true #1 centre but nobody complains that they need one. Sure a 90 point centreman would be great but not essential. I do think Bozak is more of a second line centre so someone who can dish to Kessel would be nice.

C.B

Jul 19 2010 11:08:02
Kaberle, Sjostrom for Setoguchi, 2ndDP

Grabovski, Hanson, Berry for Schenn

Finger for 5th DP

Jul 19 2010 11:56:05
TOR: James Neal and Jamie Benn
DAL: Tomas Kaberle and Bill Sweatt

Jul 18 2010 20:08:04
I actually think jordan staal and james neal will be in leaf uniforms this year.the below are trades that may happen if burke can't get ryan

schenn/grabovski for staal/curry

kaberle for neal.

Jul 18 2010 23:09:19
First Trade
To Toronto Maple Leafs
- Ryane Clowe
- 2011 3rd round pick

To San Jose Sharks
- Tomas Kaberle

Second Trade
To Toronto Maple Leafs
- Dave Bolland
- Marty Reasoner

To Chicago Blackhawks
- Mikhail Grabovski
- Luca Caputi

Toronto Maple Leafs Lineup 2010/2011
FORWARDS
Nikolai Kulemin - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
Ryane Clowe - Nazem Kadri - Kris Versteeg
Marcel Mueller - Dave Bolland - Colby Armstrong
Fredrik Sjostrom - Marty Reasoner - Colton Orr

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf - Francois Beauchemin
Brett Lebda - Mike Komisarek
Carl Gunnarsson - Luke Schenn

GOALTENDERS
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Jonas Gustavsson

Jul 18 2010 14:05:31
Havent written in awhile so i figured id put in my 2 cents. I usually bad mouth all the trades people put up regarding the high correction very high hopes toronto fans have on getting hugh name players. And im gonna have to continue on that path for just a moment.
1. Stall is not leaving pits with out a boat load of prospects or picks coming back (remember to fans you don't have many of either)
2. Milan lucic won't leave boston. And in my personal thought lucic is a 3rd line banger at best. His numbers are not that impressive he has an injury history already and when it comes down to a fight with boogaurd? macintyre? Lucic is no where to be found. Have fun fighting the lil guy lucic. Toronto you need goal scoring not this guy.
3. Kaberla for setoguchi? I highly think you guys are selling yourselves short on good ol tomas. I believe he is one of the leagues premier off. defenseman and to get just devon setoguchi in return would be an insult. Remember san jose just put up hugh money in chicago for an un proven defenseman, you should get a lil more for kaberla.
So that's my 2 cents for now. Go edmonton go haha
MattG

Jul 18 2010 11:26:32
What kind of B.S. is that not being able to trade Colby Armstrong until next summer? He signed with the Leafs, the Leafs own his rights and as such can do whatever the hell they want with Armstrong just like any other player. As for the topic of no movement/no trade clauses, down with them and down with Gary Bettman.

Jul 18 2010 13:05:47
TOR: Setoguchi, Clowe
SHARKS: Kaberle, Caputi, Grabovski, 3rd and 4rd rounder

Roster: Versteeg-Bozak-Kessel
Clowe-Kadri-Setoguchi
Kuliemen-Mitchell-Armstrong
Brown-Hanson-Orr

Phanef-Beauchemin
Komisarek-Gunnarsson
Shenn-Finger

Gustavsson-Giguere

the top six offence is all under 30, a lot of potential and well rounded players, the Leafs will still have a lot of money to spend on free agents

Jul 18 2010 08:41:47
*I apologize. The rumor involving the philadelphia, anaheim, dallas and new york trades shows the leafs trading luca caputi and then playing him. I should have said the leafs sign R. Torres and play him on the 3rd line left wing position.

Jul 17 2010 19:50:13
You can't trade Armstrong till next summer

Jul 17 2010 22:18:10
To Anaheim- T. Kaberle, M. Grabovski, J. D'Amigo
To Toronto- B. Ryan

To Philidelphia- N. Kulemin, L. Caputi, J. Reimer
To Toronto- J. Carter

To Dallas- F. Beauchemin, C. Hanson
To Toronto- J. Neal

To New York- J. Mitchell
To Toronto- S. Eminger

Toronto signs G. Metropolit and R. Jones
Toronto 2010 Rostor

Ryan- Bozak- Kessel
Neal- Carter- Versteeg
Caputi- Kadri- Armstron
Sjostrom- Metropolit- Orr
Brown

Phaneuf- Schenn
Lebda- Komisarek
Gunnarson- Eminger
Jones

Giguere- Gustafsson

Jul 17 2010 13:01:09
TOR: Jordan Stall and Marc Stall
NYR: Luke Schenn, Mikhail Grabovski, Fredrick
Sjostrom, Brayden Irwin and prospect Bill
Sweatt
PIT: Brandon Dubinsky, Nikolai Kulemin and Colby
Armstrong

TOR: Laich
WSH: Komisarek and Hanson

TOR: Setoguchi
SJS: Kaberle

TOR signs James Neal and as compensation, Leafs give DAL Luca Caputi and a 2011 second round pick.

TOR defencemen pairings for 2010-2011;
Phaneuf Beauchemin
Stall Lebda
Gunnarson Exelby

TOR forward complements for 2010-2011;

Setoguchi Stall Kessel
Neal Bozak Versteeg
Laich Kadri D'Amigo
Orr Mitchell Brown

Jul 17 2010 12:17:46
TOR: Brandon Dubinsky and Marc Stall
NYR: Luke Schenn, Mikhail Grabovski, John
Mitchell and prospect Jerry D'Amigo

TOR: Devon Setoguchi
SJS: Tomas Kaberle

TOR signs James Neal to an offer sheet 4 years and $12 million. TOR trades Luca Caputi as compensation.

Setoguchi Dubinsky Kessel
Neal Bozak Kulemin
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom

Jul 17 2010 12:34:35
TOR: Dubinsky and Stall
NYR: Schenn, Grabovski, Sjostrom and prospect
Sweatt

TOR: Setoguchi
SJS: Kaberle

TOR: Laich
WSH: Komisarek and Mitchell

TOR signs James Neal and as compensation, Leafs offer Luca Caputi.

Defencemen Pairings
Phaneuf, Beauchemin
Stall, Lebda
Gunnarson, Exelby

Amendment to Leaf forward complements 2010-2011

Setoguchi Dubinsky Kessel
Neal Bozak Versteeg
Laich Kadri Kulemin
Orr Armstrong Brown

Jul 17 2010 12:08:59
Travis Zajac and a 2011 3rd round pick for Tomas Kaberle

Jul 17 2010 11:23:42
I would like to see sarvard in calgary, with regeher going the other way. calgary needs another centerman and boston could use the d-mam

Jul 17 2010 11:45:44
TOR: Brooks Laich
WSH: Mike Komisarek

TOR: Brayden Schenn and Colten Teubert
LAK: Tomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski, Fredrick
Sjostrom and prospect Keith Aulie

Burke sign James Neal already and get it done.

Jul 17 2010 10:37:26
Marc Savard for Francois Beauchemin

Jul 17 2010 10:38:41
Simon Gagne for Dale Mitchell, Christian Hanson and a 2011 3rd round pick

Jul 17 2010 10:41:26
Malkin has a faceoff winning percentage of less than 45%. PITT is always looking for a winger to play with Crosby. Malkin will play the wing with Crosby at some point this season. Playing both on a line together will net them both 120 pts at least and Staal finally gets the ice time he deserves as a 2nd line centre. This will happen. To the guy that wants Neal. Very good young player but you can't have 12 wingers playing. First priority is a centre and than Neal.

Jul 16 2010 20:45:31
Buffalo, New Jersey, LA are Toronto's potential trading partners for Kabarle

Pay attention people.

Jul 16 2010 22:50:44
Hello. Malkin is a centre and so is Stall and Crosby. Stall can be had in a trade if Shero does not want to risk losing Malkin for nothing, he will trade Stall to Toronto and acquire Kulemin in a package deal. Stall solves the Leafs number 1 centre conundrum.

Based on a contract offer of $1.5 million to under $3.5 million per annum, whomever signs James Neal to an offer sheet would only have to give up a 2011 second round pick to Dallas as compensation and not a first rounder as a previous colleague mentionned. Please refer to the Bleacher report for supporting documentation.

Trading both Kaberle and or Schenn in a package deal needs to fetch us another top-six forward (i.e. Corey Perry). Forget about Bobby Ryan. This should set the Leafs up nicely to compete to make the playoffs this upcoming season when you include the likes of Kessel, Bozak, Kadri etc.

Jul 16 2010 23:56:19
TOR: Milan Lucic and Blake Wheeler
BOS: Tomas Kaberle, John Mitchell, Mikhail
Grabovski, Luca Caputi and prospect Tyler
Ruegsegger

TOR: Jordan Stall
PIT: Blake Wheeler, Nikolai Kulemin and prospect
Jerry D'Amigo

Leafs sign James Neal to an offer sheet and as compensation are obligated to give Dallas a 2011 second round draft pick and possibly prospect Mikhail Stefanovich.

Leaf forward line combos for 2010-2011
Lucic Stall Kessel
Neal Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Brown Deveaux Rosehill

Jul 16 2010 19:01:23
Hey Bruins Fan,

First of all, Burke had nothing to do with the trade that sent Rask to Boston For Raycroft.

Secondly, your GM has done such a cap-era mismanagement that you will not be able to start Seguin this year, and stay under the cap. So have fun playing without him, while the Leafs enjoy a 40 goal scorer in Phil Kessel.

In conclusion, you`re knowledge of hockey is questionable at best. There is a reason Brian Burke makes millions as an NHL GM and you do not. Thanks for writing in.

Jul 16 2010 16:07:25
Luongo for Carter, Leighton, 3rdDP

Bieksa for D'Agostini, 3rdDP

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Hodgson-Carter-Samulesson
Rypien-Kesler-D'Agostini
Hordichuck-Malholtra-Glass

Jul 16 2010 15:50:04
Staal is staying in PITT. Malkin will be a winger with Crosby and Staal will anchor the 2nd line. Burke will trade for a winger before he gets a #1 centre. Kadri and Bozak will be the 2nd and 3rd centres next year and the Leafs will start the season with a 7th defenceman making over 1 mil dollars. The Leafs will finish anywhere from 10th-6th seed

Jul 16 2010 13:55:26
OMG. You think Kessel for Staal is unfair to Toronto ? You think Kulimen straight up for Staal ? Burke wants to go after Gagne instead of a centerman ? JEEZ LOUISE BOYZ GET A CLUE !
All I can say is thank you Burkie.. As a Bruins fan I am looking forward to the chance to draft D-man Adam Larsson in the 2011 draft who is supposed to be as good as Lidstrom. This kid just about made the Swedish Olympic team in this last olympics as a 16 year old. Then the overall picture is this:

Kessel and Raycroft for Rask, Seguin and Larsson

Holy lop side batman. Thank you Thank you Thanky you. Nice doing business with you Burkie LOL.

Jul 16 2010 13:23:49
If the Leafs want Neal they would have to do a trade for his rights. Dallas would receive a 1st round pick as compensation not a second and the Leafs don't have one this year. Really good young player but guess what..he's a winger.

Jul 16 2010 11:56:02
I believe that all of you need a clue. Why not trade Phil Kessel for Sidney Crosby? Who's in need of a clue now? Absolutely ridiculous.

C.B

Jul 16 2010 10:35:43
No orr on the top line, probert, semenko, clark all could skate with the best of them, that's the difference.

the leafs have started the james neal courtship, dallas is for sale and the new owner does not want any long term deals spookin the new owner(s). neal wants a long term deal.

if bobby was coming, i think he would be here by now, so yes im starting to lose hope.

james neal welcome to the leafs.

Jul 16 2010 08:54:42
When gretzky was in la he also had an enforcer on his team, marty mcsorley

Jul 16 2010 09:00:50
To the guy with the crush on Orr. 1) He NEVER scored more than 8 goals or 10 pts even in junoir, semenko was a solid player from junoir to the NHL.He can't score against 17-18 year old but can net 20 against the best in the world? 2)No GM will give up both Kaberle and Schenn plus a prospect for Perry. It's to much.

Jul 16 2010 09:18:42
Teams are signing their upcoming free agents so guys like Crosby and Getzlaf will proboly not be available next summer. Richards might be the best UFA next year. Thornton will proboly resign with SJ

Jul 16 2010 09:40:34
Kulemin, Sjostrom, Berry for Staal

Kaberle, D'amigo, Grabovski for Ryan

Hanson, Boyce, 3rd DP for Sharp

Kadri-Staal-Kessel
Ryan-Sharp-Versteeg
Caputi-Bozak-Armstrong
Mitchell-Mueler-Orr

Jul 15 2010 22:07:02
To those who question the notion of having Colton Orr play on the wing on the first line, think about the following;

1) Wayne Gretzky enjoyed his most prosperous seasons in Edmonton having an enforcer Dave Semenko playing on the wing to protect him while playing with Jari Kurri.

2) Colton Orr, when playing for the N.Y. Rangers demonstrated himself to be a responsible two way forward with decent hands for a heavy weight fighter. I believe Orr would be good for 15 to 20 goals playing on a line with Kessel and Stall.

3) Acquiring Corey Perry further solidifies the mindset of Brian Burke (i.e. Versteeg) obtaining good, young experienced playoff type performers for a combination of Kaberle, Schenn and prospects. ANA acquires NHL calibre defencemen from the Leafs while having the flexibility to resign Bobby Ryan to play alongside Ryan Getzlaf. Of note, Ryan Getzlaf becomes a UFA in 2013 along with the likes of Sydney Crosby.

Jul 15 2010 22:13:12
Trade proposal below, no way/no can do from the Leaf perspective as it is heavily weighted in Pittsburgh's favor.

TOR: Jordan Stall
PIT: Phil Kessel

Kessel is a pure sniper. Trading Kessel to PIT would be murder suicide for the Leafs. Stall is still an unproven commodity as a top-six forward. A much fairer deal would have to involve a package revolving around Kulemin for Stall.

Possible Leaf lineup combinations;

Orr Stall Kessel
Versteeg Bozak Perry
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Brown Hanson Rosehill

Jul 16 2010 00:17:28
What are the Leafs waiting for? Sign James Neal to an offer sheet for $3.4 million per season on a 5 year deal. Compensation to Dallas would be a second round pick in 2011. The Leafs should forget about signing Simon Gagne because he is one hit away from another injury at age 30. The next move for the Leafs should be to initiate trade talks with Anaheim and Philadelphia. Principles of a proposed trade between the three teams would see Jeff Carter to Toronto, Bobby Ryan to Philadelphia and Tomas Kaberle, Luke Schenn, John Mitchell and Christian Hanson going to Anaheim.

Probable Leaf forward complements for 2010-2011

Neal Carter Kessel
Versteeg Bozak Kulemin
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Brown Deveaux Rosehill

Jul 15 2010 15:16:07
To that ANA rumor. 1) WAY to much for Perry 2) Perry is not a centre 3) Orr on the first line?

If your not a biased ANA fan your a guy in need of a clue

Jul 15 2010 15:47:58
Kaberle, Hanson for Zajac, 2ndDP

Grabovski, Sjostrom, Ruegsegger for Mueller, 3rdDP

Finger for 5thDP

Caputi-Zajac-Kessel
Kadri-Mueller.P-Versteeg
Kulemin-Bozak-Armstrong
?-Mitchell-Orr

Jul 15 2010 16:04:33
Phil Kessel for Jordan Staal

Next

Jul 15 2010 16:09:01
Kaberle will be gone along with a prospect for either:
Clowe, Setagoshi
Or:
Savard, Wheeler
Or:
Giroux/Carter, Vanriemsdyke

Jul 15 2010 14:43:35
To coincide with the proposed Stall transaction to Toronto. The Leafs can simultaneously trade Kaberle, Schenn, Caputi and prospects Ruegsegger and D`Amigo to Anaheim for Corey Perry and prospect Kyle Palmieri.

Leaf forward compliments

Orr Perry Kessel
Hanson Stall Versteeg
Sjostrom Bozak Kadri
Brown Deveaux Rosehill

Jul 15 2010 14:31:46
Leafs should go after Jordan Stall. Pittsburgh is looking for wingers to play with Crosby and Malkin and the Leafs have an overabundance of wingers in addition to an overabundance of defensemen.

TOR: Jordan Stall
PIT: Nikolai Kulemin, Mikhail Grabovski, John Mitchell
and prospect Bill Sweatt.

Jordan Stall is a potential #1 centre in waiting who did not play top six forward minutes but still finished with almost 50 pts. The Leafs pay a big price in the four players listed above but if you look at it on the surface, the Leafs have been unable to sign Sweatt, Grabovski hasn't done much with the organization as I am convinced he is more of a threat as a winger instead of as a playmaking centre and Kulemin has upside which should equalize the trade for both teams. In addition this allows Malkin and Kulemin to reunite.

Jul 15 2010 12:57:20
The Leafs don't have to make a winner this year. Kaberle, Grabovski and some prospects for top 6 forward and try to recover some picks and than next year build some more. You can't build a winner in one year anymore. Use the money you are getting when Gigeure is gone next year to go after Richards or Koivu. Sign Morrison for a year or twountil the core of the team is ready for the next step.

C.B

Jul 15 2010 12:27:50
Getzlaf is my very first choice of any centre in the NHL for the leafs but he is untouchable, it stings.

this is a very interesteing rumor regarding dallas.
the stars cannot get james neal signed, he wants more than $2.6 per and is looking for a long term deal.

well the dallas stars are up for sale and or moving and the current owner does not want any long term deals taxing the potential sale.

nieuwendyk is pretty much going to lose neal and is inviting trades (his only option), the stars have about 5 talented wingers and scottie glennie up.just so happens that the stars have no QB and are looking for a short contract. this one really looks legit, i want ryan or carter, but neal is a nice 2nd.

kaberle*for j.neal

Jul 15 2010 10:56:18
Trade #1:
Detroit:grabovski

Toronto:
3rd and 4th rnd picks in 2011

trade #2:
philidlelphia:
tomas kabrale
Justin reimer
bill sweaty
3rd rd and 4th round picks from Detroit
christian hanson

trade #3:
Columbus:
kimmo timmonen

philidelpia:
Nikita filatov

Jul 15 2010 11:43:00
Getzlaf from the Ducks ? Ok sure that won't cost the Leafs anything. How about straight up for Kaberle LOL. Keep dreaming Leafs. It is Carter or Savard for you if you want a center. You could have either without selling the farm but you might as well take a few more steps back and throw in Kadri and 2012 first rounder. Take Savard and you could probably get them to give back your 2011 first rounder and only send back a prospect to Boston. Don't get me wrong, I want to keep Savard but if they are hell bent on moving him you could get him cheap. I only pick the Leafs because of your need and Savards history with Kessel but if missing the playoffs agin is what you want then skip Savard.

See you in the Playoffs..NOT LOL.

Jul 15 2010 10:08:45
If Toronto gets anyone form Anahiem it should be Ryan Getzlaf. power centreman

Jul 15 2010 10:13:34
Hockey Buzz ( Ecklund ) trying to say Savard and Wheeler to Ottawa ? I don't know if I would read much into it plus I think trading Savard is a mistake at this point. Does Sturms salary actually go against the cap while he is out with injury ? There are other options out there and plus you got to give the young guys a year to get their ears wet before you start dumping your vets. Seguin will be good but is he going to put up better numbers than Savard in his rookie season ? I still say the best bet is to move Ryder ( $4 million ) somewhere. I think someone would take him BUT the catch will be a first round pick to go with him. It is a lot to give up just to get rid of a player But it puts you under the cap with a shade of comfort. Sturm ( $3.5 million ) would come off the books entirely at seasons end then you have the bucks to re up Chara and Bergeron.

Jul 15 2010 09:18:58
Kaberle, D'amigo, Blacker for Ryan

Komisarek, Hanson for Roy

Grabovski, Sjostrom, Berry for Backes

Ryan-Roy-Kessel
Kadri-Backes-Armstrong
Kulemin-Bozak-Versteeg
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr

Jul 15 2010 09:20:21
I personally like perry, good canadian competitor, but again he always played with some sort of centreman star, that always flared up his offensive numbers.

i was never a big bobby ryan fan, but the last year and a bit he really has developed into a top 3 winger in the NHL, and he's still not at full development, which is pretty scary.please no more comments on how many RW'ers the leafs have, people this is bobby ryan.brown, orr, sjostrom can play either LW/RW.

i think the only question is which three pack for CALI D'amigo, ross, kadri, schenn, kaberle, grabovski.

dont forget*next year UFA centre's thornton, richards, m.koivu, laich, backes.

Jul 14 2010 21:37:18
Took a look at the Bleacher report regarding Bobby Ryan and just wanted to say the article linking Ryan with the Leafs was written back on June 17th. With Anaheim drafting Emerson Etem, looks like Ryan is a goner from Anaheim. I am still not convinced the Leafs pressing need right now is another winger. I thought Corey Perry played the centre position but Anaheim lists him as a right winger as well. If Corey Perry could play the centre position, would the Leafs be interested more in Corey Perry than Bobby Ryan? Burke's mantra in recent weeks has been to acquire players with playoff experience and success (i.e. Versteeg). This lends me to believe the Leafs would benefit more from acquiring Perry than Ryan, trading Perry to the Leafs would give Anaheim flexibility while at the same time allow Anaheim to sign Ryan.

What about this potential trade rumor,

TOR: (F/C) Corey Perry, (D) Luca Sbisa and
prospect (C) Kyle Palmieri
ANA: (D)Tomas Kaberle, (D) Luke Schenn, (F/C)
Mikhail Grabovski, (F/C) John Mitchell and
prospects (F/C) Tyler Ruegsegger and (F/C)
Mikhail Stefanovich

Jul 14 2010 21:44:44
To the individual that complains about reading 500 word essays, you must be a gamer cause all your goofy trade proposals are just that, sheer goofiness with no thought put into them whatsoever. Why don't we just trade the entire Leaf team for Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin? Sheer goofiness I say.

Jul 14 2010 18:38:54
Watch backes play first, don't ever compare him to grabovski.

backes is 6'3 230lbs hits, fights, plays centre/wing and knows how to backcheck.

that's not grabovski/kadri/bozak, hell that's not any foward on the leafs entire team.

backes is a great hockey player

Jul 14 2010 18:21:37
Sure any fan would love to see their team get Ryan or Carter but we would have to give up alot. Kaberle, Grabovski andsome mid level prospects are what's available to get a #1 centre and maybe recoup a draft pick. What about going after tier 2 #1 centres like Weiss or even taking Briere off Philly's hands. You will get them for less than the big names. We can't sign Ryan because we don't have the draft picks needed for compensation. Bozak could be a solid #2 or even a really good #3. Leave him at centre.

C.B

Jul 14 2010 18:33:12
I knew it, finally.

anaheim and toronto are confirmed talking trade!anaheim paper and bleacher report, no concrete details but heard and read its a whopper, (google "bobby ryan" then go to news)

true blue leaf fans are going to love it.im guessing the only hitch is leafs don't want to include d'amigo who is rapidly evolving before thier eyes. my bet

schenn, grabovski, d'amigo, ross

for

ryan, marchant

burke to sign ryan $6X7yr.

Jul 14 2010 17:38:23
You have people talking that Burke won't trade Komisarek or Beauchemin because he signed them and is so called honourable. These same people say trade Kadri. Well news flash, Burke drafted Kadri so isn't going anywhere.

Jul 14 2010 17:22:41
To Tortonto
- Peter Mueller
- Kevin Porter
- 3rd round pick

To Colorado
- Francois Beauchemin
- Tyler Bozak

Jul 14 2010 16:09:52
Mike Komisarek to Washington could make sense, but I just can't see Burke trading a guy he brought in. Burke is all about being honarable. That's why I really don't think Jeff Finger is going to the minors. Why? Because Jeff is NOT under performing. Jeff is playing the same average hockey he was before he signed his big money.

The only move Burke has and will do is to trade Tomas Kabarle. The suitrs include San Jose, Buffalo, LA and New Jersey. Keeping this in mind, you guys HAVE to stop dreaming about Bobby Ryan, Jeff Carter and Jordon Staal. The Fantasy is nice, but lets at least try and be realistic here. Do this. Put yourself in the other GM's shoes.

A 32 defensive liability like Kabarle on a 1 year deal can not possible fetch you a top line player in his early 20s. Again. dare to dream but put yourself in the other GM's shoes . they ain't the pinheads you see here in this forum.

Jul 14 2010 16:25:32
Bobby Ryan to Pittsburgh for Jordan Staal.

Jul 14 2010 16:29:21
Kaberle, Sjostrom for Roy

Grabovski, Hanson, Berry for Backes

Caputi-Roy-Kessel
Versteeg-Backes-Armstrong
Kulemin-Bozak-Kadri
Mitchell-Irwin-Orr
Brown

Phaneuf-Schenn
Komisarek-Beauchemin
Gunnersson-Finger
Lebda

Jul 14 2010 15:53:08
Leafs need a centre and should make a pitch for Marc Savard They need a play maker for Kessel.

Jul 14 2010 16:05:59
The Toronto Maple Leafs have no interest in David Backes I mean what is he? a 3rd line centre? lol We have that already in Grabovski

Jul 14 2010 15:34:48
You have two centres on the ice at the end of a game just in case one gets thrown out but not for a full game. Let's move Kessel to the point because he has a great shot. Sounds stupid? You move a top facepff man to the wing IF you have somebody to replace him. You want to move him to the wing just in case the centre gets thrown out. So he'll take 100 faceoffs all year. Ya you double shift but you do it to the top tier guys. Kessel is the Leafs only top tier guy. Bozak is not a 20 min per game player or a #1 line guy. Bozak, Kulemin and Versteeg make a solid 2nd line.

Jul 14 2010 15:22:33
I am 100% on a big centreman, but komisarek and beauchemin are replaceable, in fact every year players like kommy&beauch are available in free agency, players like ryan, kessel,&backes, not so much.

draws&puck possession are important, yea all will agree, but you must have a legit scoring threat on the ice 15 out of the 20 minute period, otherwise puck possession, draws&defensive defensemen mean little except slowing or stopping teams from running up the score.

put it this way, if the leafs have excellent puck possession, great face-offs, and defensive defensemen, they still lose a ton of 1 goal hard fought games.

If the leafs have offensive weapons like kessel, and ryan playing 7.5 minutes per period on different lines leafs chances to win games really do skyrocket.

ship out-schenn*grabovski*kaberle*caputi*prospects*

ship in-
ryan*backes

Jul 14 2010 14:22:00
Kaberle, Hanson, Mikus, Boyce for Ryan

Komisarek, Grabovski, Berry for Roy

The Kaberle deal goes through if ANA can sign him to an extension plus they get a future top 4 dman in Mikus
BUF gets a top 4 defenceman to replace departed players
Yes Burke signed Komisarek two years earlier but with Gunnersson developing faster than expected he can afford to move him. It's not like he easn't traded players he's signed before.

Ryan-Roy-Kessel
Versteeg-Kadri-Caputi
Kulemin-Bozak-Armstrong
Sjostrom-Mitchell-Orr

Jul 14 2010 14:34:22
Hey wait a minute, talking about the topic of moving Bozak to the wing, what is the problem with having two players on the same line with faceoff averages of over 50% on the ice at a crucial point in the game? Has anybody ever heard of the possibility of double-shifting a player (i.e. Bozak) between the top two lines? If Kadri makes the Leaf team this upcoming season, I don't see him playing on the top two lines. Kadri should start on a third line penalty kill / top two power play units so that he can be responsible in his own end first then let the offense flow and earn his way onto the second unit.

I honestly believe that there are two teams that would overpay for Kaberle if they think that the player in question can put them over the top towards winning a Stanley Cup if you also include a defenseman like Komisarek and that is Washington and New Jersey. Players of interest for the Leafs should be Brooks Laich, John Carlson, Adam Henrique, Zach Parise (you would have to almost certainly trade Phil Kessel as part of the package to have a shot at acquiring Parise along with Kaberle)

Jul 14 2010 14:07:13
You know .. if you have to write a 500 word essay to try and explain your goofy rationale .

Lets maybe try and stay focused on realistic trade possibilities. A lot of die hard Leaf fans here with a lot of ridiculious ideas.

Bobby Ryan ain't coming to Toronto. And Toronto with their 9 right wingers don't need another one.

A little common sense people.

ps I ain 't reading anything longer than two paragraphs If it takes that long to get your thoughts together, chances are you don't believe them either.

Jul 14 2010 14:21:15
Mike Komisarek to Washington could make sense, but I just can't see Burke trading a guy he brought in. Burke is all about being honarable. That's why I really don't think Jeff Finger is going to the minors. Why? Because Jeff is NOT under performing. Jeff is playing the same average hockey he was before he signed his big money.

The only move Burke has and will do is to trade Tomas Kabarle. The suitrs include San Jose, Buffalo, LA and New Jersey. Keeping this in mind, you guys HAVE to stop dreaming about Bobby Ryan, Jeff Carter and Jordon Staal. The Fantasy is nice, but lets at least try and be realistic here. Do this. Put yourself in the other GM's shoes.

A 32 defensive liability like Kabarle on a 1 year deal can not possible fetch you a top line player in his early 20s. Again. dare to dream but put yourself in the other GM's shoes . they ain't the pinheads you see here in this forum.

Jul 14 2010 13:30:35
To the guy who thinks he's a genius and puts down the C.B guy. If you read everything and not just bits and pieces of sentences you might have a clue. He was responding to someone else who was saying the Leafs should get rid of Kadri because he hasn't proven anything and is to small when talking about Tavares. The first guy was saying that the Leafs should trade Kadri for those reasons and the C.B guy was using Tavares as an example. Yes Tavares is a much better player but look at the majority of prospects coming up, 6 feet or so and 165-185 pounds. Tavares, Duchesne, Eberle, Hodgson, Seguin, Kadri all fit that mold. He is just saying bad stuff about Kadri because he doesn't know much about hockey and like bad talking the leafs.

As for MLSE and paying Burke's paychecks, you should know the whole story. Anybody who followed Burke's hiring knows that one of the stipulations he made before he signed the contract is that he wants full control of the team. That means no interference from the board regarding signings or trades and that they know he can't build a winner and keep it successful in just 2 or 3 years.

Have you ever played or better yet coached hockey besides the video games. If you have than you know that you need more than one player plkaying centre.
Do you think Carter will be our only faceoff man or maybe it's that you think we should only win face offs when our first line is on the ice. Puck possesion is the key to the game and the best way to get the puck is to win the faceoff. You need 2 or 3 centreman who can get you at least 53% on the draws and you want to take away a guy that gets 55% and move him to the wing.I guess your not as smart as you think you are. Try reading everything before you blow hot air. At least C.B is making some sense.
Burke has a better chance at trading with the Ducks than most of the GM's because of his past relationship with Murray. If Schenn is as bad as alot of you people are saying than why would another take him instead of an established rearguard with a similar game. Everybody in the game wants Schenn included in trades for a reason. When you have an upside like Schenn you have to give him time to develop. Let's not forget Joe Thornton only had about 20 pts in his rookie year. Wouldn't you want the Leafs to be competitive year after year. If you trade Schenn and keep guys like Komisarek and/or
Beauchemin than you can be competitive for 3-4 years but why they start to decline beacause they will be in their mid 30's who is going to replace them.

Jul 14 2010 13:34:43
Read past posts buddy. The guy was saying when was the last time the Leafs drafted a forward in the top 5.

Jul 14 2010 13:41:30
I am not a leafs fan but I understand the frustration with Burke holidaying right now. I do believe however nobody can do what they want until Kovalchuk makes up his mind and then you will see the domino effect as teams lose out on certain players then roll out their plan B'S and C'S.
I for one do not care who Kovalchuk signs with even if it is the KHL. I don't think he is worth more than $5 million per year but that is just my opinion. Burke will make a move once Kovalchuk signs. If LA signs him then look for Burke to move Kaberle to NJ Devils. If that doesn't work then I think Burke will go after either Savard or Carter. I really don't think Bobby Ryan is an option because Burke would have to part with too much.
Stay thirsty my friends.

Jul 14 2010 09:32:32
All i know for sure is bobby ryan has turned down 2 offers from anahiem, $5X5yr and $5X6 ranges.

offer sheets have to be coming, probably from teams that will finish top 5 next year, anahiem may lose bobby ryan for late picks in a crappy draft, or overpay to keep him, so yes its possible for the leafs to get him very soon.

where would anahiem want bobby ryan if they could not keep him or didn't want to overpay ?

1.the furthest away
2.opposite conference
3.to the worst possible team.

anahiem has NO young stud defencemen who can eat up minutes and crush like schenn, and thier QB (visnovsky) is not even close to kabbie talent.

schenn/kabbie*prospect for ryan.done deal

Jul 14 2010 10:41:28
Mike Komisarek to Washington could make sense, but I just can't see Burke trading a guy he brought in. Burke is all about being honarable. That's why I really don't think Jeff Finger is going to the minors. Why? Because Jeff is NOT under performing. Jeff is playing the same average hockey he was before he signed his big money.

The only move Burke has and will do is to trade Tomas Kabarle. The suitrs include San Jose, Buffalo, LA and New Jersey. Keeping this in mind, you guys HAVE to stop dreaming about Bobby Ryan, Jeff Carter and Jordon Staal. The Fantasy is nice, but lets at least try and be realistic here. Do this. Put yourself in the other GM's shoes.

A 32 defensive liability like Kabarle on a 1 year deal can not possible fetch you a top line player in his early 20s. Again.. dare to dream but put yourself in the other GM's shoes . they ain't the pinheads you see here in this forum.

Jul 14 2010 00:58:54
Who is this C.B individual think he is? He seems to think in his own little world that everybody are pinheads. This is what I have to say to C.B and some of you out there. There is no way on God's green earth the Leafs will land Bobby Ryan. I believe Philadelphia has a better chance of obtaining Ryan through trade possibly for Jeff Carter and a pick or another roster player. The Leafs could possibly work out a package involving Tomas Kaberle to obtain Jeff Carter from Anaheim. On the subject of Luke Schenn, I believe C.B appears to be mistaken in that Schenn on the Leafs is a top-four defenceman who has unimpressed in two full NHL seasons thus far. However, given Schenn's age, can the Leafs afford to wait another five years for Schenn to mature into a partial clone of Scott Stevens seeing that defenceman are generally in their prime at age 28? Not once did the other guy ever mention Tavares and the notion the Islanders should trade him. Note to C.B Leafs drafted in the top five most recently with the selection of Schenn.

On the subject of organizational grown talent, prime examples of teams constantly competing for championships are teams like your Detroit's and New Jersey's of the world who thrive on drafting and developing players in their system. C.B however appears to not realize who runs MLSE. MLSE is looking to make a quick buck off poor schmucks like C.B psychologically feeding fans like him a line or two of crap that the Leafs will compete and make a strong playoff push year after year. Does C.B think MLSE is willing to stand by and wait another 5 to 8 years for Luke Schenn to develop? After all, doesn't Brian Burke have to hold himself accountable to the board of MLSE who signs his paycheque?

C.B who is the pinhead now?

Jul 14 2010 01:13:04
To the last person who commented on how good a job Brian Burke has done so far, yes, Burke has conducted an overhaul of the team but good doesn't cut it when the home team has not won a Cup since 1967. I, for the life of me do not understand how Burke can afford himself a vacation when the Leafs never made the playoffs this past year and he had plenty of time to take it following the Leafs mathematical elimination from the playoffs. Burke says he is not done yet, however it is of my opinion that the only way he should take a vacation is when players that need to be moved - Kaberle, Schenn, Grabovski, Kulemin, Giguerre, Komisarek and Mitchell have been moved.

Players that should be of interest to the Leafs,
PIT: Jordan Stall PHI: Ville Leino
WSH: Brooks Laich PHI: Jeff Carter
WSH: John Carlson

On the topic of Tyler Bozak, there is no question he is a talented player and important faceoff man for the Leafs. However, in order to maximize his talent, playing Bozak on the wing, provided that a legitimate, experienced #1 centre can be obtained (Stall, Carter) could pay immediate dividends for the team as Bozak doesn't have to worry about being the guy who should feed Kessel all the time while sacrificing his skating acceleration passing up opportunities to take the puck hard to the net. Both the team and Bozak would benefit from the move for sure.

Jul 14 2010 01:25:11
TOR: Brooks Laich and John Carlson
WSH: Luke Schenn and Mike Komisarek

TOR trades Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and John Mitchell
ANA trades Bobby Ryan and Joffrey Lupul
PHI trades Jeff Carter and Ville Leino

TOR receives Jeff Carter and Joffrey Lupul from ANA via PHI. PHI receives Bobby Ryan from ANA along with John Mitchell from TOR and ANA receives Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and Ville Leino from both TOR and PHI.

John Carlson would replace Tomas Kaberle as the offensive defenceman. Phaneuf, Beauchemin, Gunnarson, Lebda, Aulie will remain with the Leafs on the back end. In Carter, Lupul and Laich, the Leafs add character in Laich with playoff experience for another 4 to 5 years since he is 28 yrs old. Carter is the #1 centre for this Leaf team with size up the middle playing with Kessel should be exciting as two of the games best wrist shots would be playing together with Bozak. Just imagine the notion of two players on the same draw being excellent on faceoffs in Bozak and Carter?

Jul 14 2010 01:29:20
For all those in Leaf nation who believe the team needs goal scoring wingers over playmaking centre ice men need to have their heads shaken. It is debated that the Leafs have another budding 30 goal scorer in Kulemin and possibly Grabovski yet they continue to underachieve in this department and I wonder why? Plain and simple, this Leaf team needs playmaking centremen to feed the pucks over to the wingers and create plays, something the Leafs don't have now and should be a prime requirement.

Jul 13 2010 20:08:49
Cmon people brian burke has done a great job with what was left from ferguson, he's totally retooled this team ex(giguiere phaneuf kessel komisarek armstrong versteeg kadri)
first of all were alot tougher and teams will repect our strength, sure we need help at center but man look at what burkes done so far, give the man some credit I don't see any other GM's that could've pulled these moves off
so my hats off to BRIAN BURKE and to leafs fans because the future looks better

P.S he's not done yet

Jul 13 2010 19:56:24
As I have stated for the third time now

you have to trade something to get something in return, trades don't just happen for the sake of happening both teams have to get something in return

Komisarek is definetly not enough for the likes of Bobby Ryan, so again, the only way the leafs will acquire a young 30-40 goal scorer is to offer an asset like Schenn seteguchi I have heard as well however that isn't enough for Kaberle. I would trade for savard and I would say that the Leafs should trade Schenn because Schenn IS a great shut down defenceman however the leafs need a goal scorer to make the playoffs so the question is would you trade Schenn to have a lineup like this

top 2 lines

Ryan Savard Kessel

kulemin bozak versteeg

defence

Phanuef beachemin

kaberle komesarek

gunnarsson lebda

looks pretty good to me

Jul 13 2010 18:51:58
Not bad C.B. but i think ryan is coming to toronto, and i do rate backes very high, his points are not elite, but he fights and hits a ton.

if toronto can land backes 26 and ryan 23 at the cost of schenn, kaberle, kadri you gotta do it.leafs are not sacrificing the future, leafs are going to win with proven skilled young players who have experience. just imagine

kessel, versteeg, backes, ryan, phaneuf, komisarek,
armstrong, kulemin, beauchemin, bozak, gigure, now that's a dangerously balanced playoff team.

haters, take your shots..im ready

Jul 13 2010 18:06:13
Anahiem has not signed bobby ryan, so its not out of the relm to think of the possibilities, otherwise nothing on the leafs would fetch ryan..ryan is a guy you sign, i mean a guy you sign right away.

anahiem has offered a couple deals and ryan has declined to sign it.that's why the buzz. until ryan signs i personally think he has to be available.

this is a decent sign for the leafs, anahiem has not one young stud d-man, anahiem has pretty decent firepower locked up, great goalie, but may have to trade ryan to fill that hole, especially if they can't sign bobby anyway.

its possible.

Jul 13 2010 17:16:42
Anahiem is rebuilding so they don't want a Komisarek or a Kabarle. You know what Anahiem really wants? A Bobby Ryan. He ain't going anywhere. Move on please

Jul 13 2010 17:17:19
Lol Trade Kessel for a centre Well you might as well.

Jul 13 2010 17:21:48
You clowns that think Ryan is coming to Toronto for a bunch of "what ifs " and "has beens" and "never was".What's in it for Bob MURRAY? You guys are just clueless

Jul 13 2010 17:02:37
I agree that the Leafs should get Ryan, but don't include Schenn. Yes we have plenty of defensive d-men so give them Komisarek instead. In two-three years Schenn will score close to or as much as him.He has a bullet from the point. Backes outplayed some of Canada at one tournament but don't overrate him. The best centre was Toews but I still wouldn't rate him over Crosby. Backes has never scored over 65 pts in a season and is 26. He would be a solid #2 centre but Bozak and Kadri could be that. You can't trade Fingers contract but he is not a bad 4th or 5th d-man. People are just pissed that he is overpaid. Kaberle and a mid level prospect should be gone for a #1 centre. Komisarek, Grabovski and a prospect or two for Ryan and keep Beauchemin or trade him for a high pick.

C.B

Jul 13 2010 15:43:17
Hey dummy.. I would rather have Schenn then a ninth Rwering in Ryan..dummy

Jul 13 2010 15:46:23
If the Leafs land a Ryan OR a Setoguchi, then I guess it only makes sense that they trade Kessel for a centreman.

Jul 13 2010 15:07:41
Thats the word of the day "dummy" for the record i didn't start the insulting.

sjostrom, brown and orr can play either side. you honestly can't say if the leafs had a shot at bobby ryan for schenn you would pass that up ?

i don't care if the whole team shoots right, you do not.i repeat, do not ever pass on a player like ryan.

david backes and bobby ryan stood out at the olympics, especially against team canada, crosby, getzlaf, perry, richards, best players in the world were ALL outplayed by bobby ryan, and i hate USA hockey but that's the truth.

.

Jul 13 2010 14:46:19
Hey Chachi, the Leafs need a centre Since there is none they may as well pick up Savard. Makes sense

Jul 13 2010 14:47:24
I heard Kabarle to San Jose for Sedagochi

Great another RWer. This is getting to be dumb

Jul 13 2010 13:48:54
Booby Ryan scored 35 goals last year and yes kessel is a goal scorer but a team, needs more than one scoring threat which is why the leafs need to acquire a goal scorer no more sandpaper players because we have a full team of them, and I like Schenn too but sometimes in hockey to get something you have to give something, and by the way ryan is 23 years old so trading schenn would give us a scorer and a young player but giving up a young player defence is solidified now with the signing of lebda and the ducks won't trade ryan for kaberle at age 32 so the logical trade right now would be trading Schenn,

Jul 13 2010 14:34:01
Leafs don't want Ryan Can't you see how many RWers we have? dummy

Jul 13 2010 13:07:30
Of course schenn is on the block dummy, he's a great young defensive defenseman provides under 20 points a year on a last place team who needs offensive players like no other NHL team.

beauchemin, phaneuf, komisarek, aulie are all great defensivley, but dummy, the defensive shell doesn't win games, how many "defensive defencemen" do you think the leafs need ? you do know only about 6 D-men dress per game

dummy, no-one is related to anyone, just using common sense, leafs cannot win without offence, and to get that offence some sacrifice is in order. also, dummy, do your homework, next year the leafs lose $6 mil alone with gigure moving on ? dummy, are you allowed to be on a computer ?

attention leafs nation, lets pass on a future 50 goal scorer&100 point guy for the next 10 years in order to keep a guy who averages 4 goals and 17-20 points a year on a team that doesn't score goals that's in last place ? all to save maybe a million or two per season, dummy, i really think your the ferguson.

dummy, where exactly do you hold kadri ? his silly little OHL moves and his chip'd shoulder won't go too far in the NHL except on his rear end. an AHL 55 point season for kadri ? or a 30-35 point NHL "breakout" year ? leafs nation lets listen to dummy and pass on ryan and aim for a 26th place finish in 2010/11.

schenn + prospect = bobby ryan

Jul 13 2010 12:38:51
To the kadri hater you don't know anything because as of now kadri already weighs 186 so you're dumb don't post anything else on here unless you know what your talking about pffft

Jul 13 2010 10:13:47
Fool, you have to understand the meaning of "prospect" it means not a sure thing, taylor hall, seguin, kadri, as much as you wanna drool over them are all just prospects. ever heard of alexander daigle or patrick stefan ?

so far kadri has shown a poor attitude, with ability to dominate children. no question he has loads of talent, but its trapped in a body that will never see 175lbs ? he better be a tippity-top talent cause he's never going thru anyone in the NHL.

here's a prediction, kadri does really nothing until his entry level contract is up, 3 years from now, leafs have to decide to sign him to a big contract with a half year's of decent performance ? ala jason blake

if the leafs have a chance right now to land d.backes, e.johnson, b.ryan, then sorry to say start packin schenn, kaberle, kadri, grabovski, and well worth it indeed.

every GM in the leauge would sacrifice the above players and pull the trigger to land 3 PROVEN STARS, and about 95% of intelligent hockey fans would agree MR.5%.

Jul 13 2010 10:16:46
We have a player that can put the puck in the net. His name is Kessel. Yes getting Ryan would be great but our first need is a player to get the puck to Kessel. If you get Ryan and the Leafs start being competitive in 4-5 years you will have Komisarek and Beauchemin in their mid 30's and you will be on a site like this saying the Leafs need a young physical shut down guy to make it. We would have had him except you traded him. It is easier to draft a top 6 foward than it is to get a guy with the potential as Schenn. If you want to be competitive and possibly win in about 5 years and keep being competitive these are the guys you need to keep.
Schenn, Gunnersson, Kadri, Kessel. Moving Bozak to the wing is idiotic. You need to win faceoffs to win games and Bozak is our best.

C.B

Jul 13 2010 12:18:46
Kaberle, Grabovski, Berry, for Brown, Schenn
Hanson, Sjostrom

Komisarek, Giliati for Ryan

Beauchemin, Boyce Mitchell, Cash for Spezza

Ryan-Spezza-Kessel
Versteeg-Kadri-Brown
Kulemin-Bozak-Armstrong
Caputi-Schenn-Orr

Phaneuf-Schenn
Gunnersson-Finger
Aulie-Lebda

L.A gets a second line centreand a PP quaterback for Kovalchuck
ANA gets a top d-man and prospect
OTT gets a vetern physical d-man and the money they gave up to Spezza.
Works for everybody

Jul 13 2010 09:33:29
Brown is LAs captain, he ain't going anywhere

Jul 13 2010 09:40:40
You can tell us with certanty that Schenn is on the block. Hey everybody this guy must have a father or cousin or boyfriend who says they work in the front office with the Leafs. You want to trade away our 3 best young players and a prospect. Yes we get young players like Johnson and Ryan but we are still are at the cap. Schenn make 2.95 mil and of course he will want a raise, he deserves it. Backes is a free agent next year and will command the same amount and Johnson is one this year. Johnson and Ryan will cost the leafs close to 10 mil this year. Wait you must be related to Ferguson. You will get Schenn for cheaper than Johnson and trade Beauchemin / Komisarek and prospect or two for Ryan.

C.B

Jul 13 2010 09:53:05
To the pinhead that thinks Schenn is not a top four defenceman. Go back to watching figure skating. Yes he has some holes in his game but he is still young. Tavares has holes in his game, does that mean the Iles should give up on him. Yes the leafs haven't had success drafting fowards in the top 5 since Clark. Just a question, when were the Leafs drafting in the top 5. Name one team in the last 20 years that won or came close to winning the cup that didn't have young homegrown talent play a major role on their team.

C.B

Jul 13 2010 08:24:45
Brayden schenn is probably 2 years away from the bigs, his style of play and heart are great, but not ready for the nhl just yet.

he will need at least 1 full season in the AHL, most of his junior points came from great linemates and overpowering the opposition, unfortunatley this will not happen right away in the pro's.

i like him, but right now his stock is too high.

Maple Leafs should be focusing on D.Brown, shoots, hits, fight, scores, beautiful long term cap hit at $3.2 per, he's the guy from LA that burkie covets

Kaberle
Gunnarsson

for

Brown

Jul 13 2010 09:18:25
Who wants to trade Kadri? C'mon man, do you have rocks for brains? Why would the Leafs give up on Kadri. Seriously, is there any real thought into these or do people just pull names from a hat? Just dumb

Jul 12 2010 18:06:55
Sjostrom is more comfortable and more efficient on the opposite side, orr and brown usually don't skate long enough for positions to matter, but both can play either wing.

i can tell you all with certainty schenn is on the trading block, he's actually not that cheap, runs about 3mil a season. and will be looking for a raise as he improves this year (and he will improve)

I am a very big fan of schenn, but anahiem needs defensemen and can't get ryan signed, blues need a QB as pietrangelo is not ready.

schenn
prospect

for

ryan

kaberle
gunnarsson
grabovski
kadri

for

backes
e.johnson
jackman (salary dump)

leafs sign ryan johnson.

Jul 12 2010 19:54:02
To Los Angeles- T. Kaberle, J. Mitchell, F. Sjostrom
To Toronto- B. Schenn, W. Simmonds

To Philedelphia- W. Simmonds, M. Grabovski, J. Reimer
To TOronto- J. Carter

To Anaheim- N. Kulemin, F. Beauchemin
To Toronto- B. Ryan

Toronto Line Combinations-

Ryan- Bozak- Kessel
Kadri- Carter- Versteeg
Caputi- Schenn- Armstrong
Brown- Hanson- Orr

Phaneuf- Schenn
Lebda- Komisarek
Gunnarson- Aulie

Giguere- Gustavsson

Cap Hit- 57 million

Jul 12 2010 21:35:43
The reason the leafs would trade schenn is simply that he may be a 15 year defenceman but we have too many defence right now, we need a top scorer someone who can put the puck in the net and bobby ryan can do that, the only way we can get such a player is by trading Schenn you have to give up something to get something, and Kaberle has told the leafs that he wants to stay and re-up his contract so why not the guy gets 55 assists per year and he is great on the powerplay, Schenn will be good but so will Ryan so nobody will be losing in the deal

Jul 13 2010 00:26:42
To the individual that asked why would I give up either one of Schenn, Aulie or Gunnarson. Let me be crystal clear, the Leafs have never had any success in drafting offensively talented forwards in the top 5 in any year except for Wendel Clark many moons ago. It is quite apparent the Leafs need, at the very least a legitimate #1 centre to direct the top line. I am sorry but I have to disagree with you in that Schenn is a top four defenseman on the Leafs and Aulie plays a similar stay-at-home defensive style which is what Schenn is, nothing more, nothing less. There are two flaws to Schenn's game right now which can be corrected but only Schenn will have to put in the work and that is he needs to develop better foot speed skating wise and he needs to invest heavily in slapping the puck on net more often to change it up on occasion with his tendency to wrist shots towards goal. He also needs to be more aggresive and stand opposing forwards at the blueline every chance he gets. No holding back.

In addition to a number 1 centre iceman, I believe they need a number 2 centreman and convert Bozak to the wing on one of the two top lines. Kadri can play in his first year on the third line to develop his game on the defensive side first then become a offensive force in his mid-20's along a similar path to a former Leaf great in Doug Gilmour. With the impending departure of Tomas Kaberle, the Leafs in any trade scenario should look for an up in coming young defenseman with offensive upside like a John Carlsson from Washington.

I think the Leafs should target Jordan Stall and Brooks Laich. While these players do not necessarily scream all-star calibre forwards, what these players bring is playoff experience and character. You can never have enough character in a dressing room which I grade far higher than bringing in a primadonna superstar like Kovalchuk who would be a mistake for Toronto. Just look at the Vince Carter's and Chris Bosh's of the world to see what they turned out to become. Bringing in the types of players mentionned above brings added size up the middle which has sorely been lacking in addition to the promise of something better to look forward to tomorrow for this Leaf squad.

Jul 12 2010 17:43:55
To the guy that thinks Aulie is a Schenn in waiting, that's like saying we have Bozak a Mike Richards in waiting. Aulie is going to be a solid #4 defenceman but he is not Schenn, and what's not to like about having 2 young guys like that. Throw in Gunnersson and you have 1/2 your blueline in place for the next 6 years. Why would you give that up.

Jul 12 2010 16:13:20
Sorry .. 6 natural NHL calibre RWers

Jul 12 2010 17:09:19
What can I say? I believe that the old saying goes something like, "You have to give up something in order to get something in return." As much as some of you are trying to concoct trade rumors involving Kaberle and anybody else available under the moon and the stars, none of these rumors are realistic except for the guy who proposes trading Schenn to ensure the Leafs obtain a quality 1st or 2nd line centre. Anyways, don't we have a Schenn in waiting in Keith Aulie? When is Aulie supposed to be up with the big club anyhow?

Jul 12 2010 15:46:48
The Leafs now have 5 natural RWers

Kessel
Versteeg
Armstrong
Fjorstrom
Brown
Orr

Even if Versteeg changes positions, I don't think the Leafs will bring in a Ryan or a Simmonds. I mean really, who's playing centre??

Jul 12 2010 15:32:01
The Leafs are not going to trade Schenn or Gunnersson. They are the future of the Leafs defence and they don't have big contracts. The Leafs have to move big contracts on the back end to get help up front. Burke is not willing to get rid of a 15 year pro who can shut down top fowards. Ya those guys come around all the time.

C.B

Jul 12 2010 14:33:14
To Anaheim: Luke Schenn and Mikael Grabovski

To Toronto: Bobby Ryan and 5th round pick

Jul 12 2010 14:37:42
Komiasrek, Hanson, Sjostrom, for Carter, Giroux
Berry

Kaberke, Giliati for Ryan

Beauchemin, Grabovski for Schenn

Versteeg-Carter-Kessel
Ryan-Giroux-Kadri
Kulemin-Bozak-Armstrong
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr

Phaneuf-Schenn
Gunnerrsson-Finger
Lebda-Aulie

Jul 12 2010 10:12:11
You are on some pretty potent stuff if you think Burke is going to trade Schenn, Caputi, Kulemin and Mitchell. That is just ridiculous.

Jul 11 2010 23:58:44
Agree with below comment Kabarle has to go. He is a defensive cancer and the last of the Muskoka 5. Can't believe this guy was never booed out of Toronto, especially when he vetoed a trade that would have landed Toronto Jeff Carter AND a 1st round draft pick. Sad..

Jul 11 2010 20:48:51
Oh yeah Tampa will give the Leafs Lecaliver AND throw in Hedman ? Why not take St Louis and Stamkos too if we throw in Hanson and Orr. Just dumb

Jul 11 2010 17:42:15
Leafs don't want or need Gagne and Giroux. Both players do not fit the Burke mould. If I am GM of the Leafs it is either Carter or Lecavalier. The team needs an established 1st line centre without question. The Leafs would be stupid to keep Kaberle who has only 2 or 3 more years before he retires. The question is can Aulie come in next year and replace Schenn? If so, these are possible trades involving Schenn.

TOR : Lecavalier and Hedman
TAM: Kaberle, Schenn, Grabovski, Mitchell, and
Caputi

or

TOR: Carter, Leino and Carcillo
PHI: Kaberle, Schenn, Kulemin and Grabovski

Line Combo 1:
Leino Carter Kessel
Carcillo Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Mitchell
Brown Orr Sjostrom

or

Line Combo 2:

Kulemin Lecavalier Kessel
Orr Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom

Jul 11 2010 17:44:19
If the Leafs do not trade Kaberle before August 1st, Brian Burke should hang himself as GM and leave Toronto. I don't care who he gets for Kaberle at this point, Kaberle has to go the sooner the better.

Jul 11 2010 10:29:24
Philly's not dealin carter for that deal. plus leafs can't add 13mil+ in salary.

holmgren would be out on his ass if he dealt away carter, leino, and coburn to the same team

if a deal goes down with toronto expect toronto to land

giroux and gagne

OR POSSIBLY

carter

Jul 11 2010 10:43:08
This is the NHL not the NBA, you can't do sign and trades with FA's that were not on your roster last year. It is in the CBA that you cannot trade a newly signed player that season.

C.B

Jul 11 2010 09:51:26
1st off if anyone is going to get ryan it will be burke, flyers are 1.5 over the cap and bobby ryan wants alot more than $5 a season, philly still has to sign 3 players, this all could be squeezed in if any team was interested in lupul.

burke will take the gagne salary dump, but only if flyers include somthing special, like giroux.

anahiem is hurting for defencemen, anahiem can't sign ryan, leafs have lots of defencemen, burke loves ryan. toronto and anahiem can help each other

schenn
gunnarsson

for

ryan

OR

kaberle
gunnarsson
rynnas

for

giroux
gagne
coburn

Jul 11 2010 10:11:44
Leafs would not sign and trade lebda, that would be the end of any free agents signing in toronto. philly doesn't want a couple spare parts for carter

philly needs to move just enough to get thier players signed. flyers have no need to get rid of a big 40-50 goal scorer in carter if they can just move gagne.

irwin may be big, but he could skate around with a carton of eggs and not break any. no way irwin beats out mitchell for a roster spot. and im pretty sure orr will be penciled in aswell.

Jul 11 2010 09:31:39
Deal to be announced Wednesday, July 13th, 2010.

TOR: Jeff Carter, Simon Gagne, Ville Leino and
Braydon Coburn
PHI: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin, Keith Aulie,
Brett Lebda and Christian Hanson

Leaf Roster 2010-2011

Gustavsson, Giguerre

Phaneuf, Beauchemin
Komisarek, Schenn
Coburn, Gunnarson

Leino Carter Kessel
Gagne Kadri Versteeg
Armstong Bozak Sjostrom
Brown Irwin Caputi

Jul 10 2010 20:36:39
Heard it through the grapevine but Toronto might be involved in a three way deal with Anaheim and Philadelphia. Principles of the three-way trade would look something like this,

TOR: Jeff Carter and Joffrey Lupul
ANA: Tomas Kaberle, Simon Gagne and Mikhail
Grabovski
PHI: Bobby Ryan and Christian Hanson

The reason for the delay in all three teams consumating this deal is that Simon Gagne needs to waive his no trade clause.

Jul 10 2010 20:47:24
I think the Leafs should sign Sundin out of retirement and trade his ass because he's another Kaberle bum. Kaberle is a selfish assclown who subscribes to the Mats Sundin school of only thinking about himself and has no loyalty to the Leafs whatsoever. Down with no trade clauses in the next collective bargaining agreement Bettman you weasel. Fire Gary Bettman!

Jul 10 2010 15:00:32
Trades cooking.

t.kaberle for r.clowe/j.demers

l.schenn/m.grabovski*prospect for b.ryan.

m.staal for j.neal

Jul 10 2010 14:45:10
Another Tomas Kaberle trade rumor. Here it goes.

TOR: Lecavalier
TAM: Kaberle and a bunch of sticks and pucks.

Funny, really funny but possible knowing the Leafs. Lecavalier is a big body centreman who is 30 years old and coming off an off year. Yzerman would love to get his hands on a defender like Kaberle as he knows that winning teams are teams that play defence first. I don't think a bunch of sticks and pucks would fly but throw in a Grabovski plus another player, maybe a Hanson or a Caputi and Yzerman might bite. Plus for Tampa as it saves them money off their cap though I think Yzerman would push to include Schenn in the deal as well. If I was Burke, if I parted with Schenn in the deal, I would ask for Victor Hedman to be included something like this.

TOR: Vincent Lecavalier and Victor Hedman
TAM: Tomas Kaberle, Luke Schenn, Mikhail
Grabovski, Christian Hanson, John Mitchell
and prospect Jesse Blacker.

Defenseman
Phaneuf Beauchemin
Hedman Komisarek
Gunnarsson Lebda

Forwards
Kulemin Lecavalier Kessel
Orr Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom
Brown Deveaux Rosehill

Jul 10 2010 12:26:10
Bruins and Rangers talking. Talks are producing interesting combinations of trades but this one is most talked about.

Boston would get - RW - Ryan Callahan and D - Marc Staal

Rangers would get - C - Marc Savard; D - Matt Hunwick; Prospect C - Zach Hammil Plus Bostons 1st round draft pick in 2011

Jul 09 2010 20:18:25
Tomas Kaberle to Philly for Simon Gagne, 2nd round pick

Jul 09 2010 22:16:27
Anaheim receives : Kabarle, Irwin, Aulie
Toronto receives: Ryan

Jul 09 2010 17:10:02
Blockbuster deal rumors between Boston and Los Angeles heating up and now to include Calgary. This is what we are hearing:

Boston gets - Robyn Regehr and Wayne Simmonds

Los Angeles gets - Nick Hagman, Blake Wheeler and Toronto 1st round pick in 2011 which belonged to Boston

Calgary gets - Jack Johnson and Boston prospect c- Joe Colborne

Jul 09 2010 17:13:41
Rumors coming up that Marc Savard could be going to the Rangers but no big names coming back. Hearing maybe either a second round pick in 2011 or a prospect but nothing confirmed yet.

Jul 09 2010 16:44:54
Brayden schenn is 2 years away from ther bigs, nobody wants gagne.Again burke is not interested in Gagne or Savard, too much risk never enough reward.

Marc Staal and Bobby Ryan are both primed for offer sheets, expect a deal very soon.

Bobby Ryan has turned down $5X5yr, Burke will pay him $6.5X8yr, Anahiem if your reading this please deal Ryan before you get a bunch of crappy picks from detroit or colorado in a low talented upcoming two drafts, or overpay for ryan.

bobby ryan is coming to toronto, grabo, kabbie, gunnarsson start packing

Jul 09 2010 11:58:26
Stamkos is not worth a bunch of crapy parts from toronto? even if toronto offered their whole team I would say no

Jul 09 2010 09:42:52
Stamkos is just 1 way player not even close to being worth all of that

Jul 09 2010 09:46:46
Toronto:
Simon Gagne

Philadelphia:
Mikhail Grabovski

Toronto:
Brayden Schenn
Oscar Moller

LA:
Thomas Kaberle
Carl Gunnarsson

The Philly trade works for both teams: TO receive a high scoring winger and top 6 forward and Philly receive a speedy depth guy who can play 2nd or 3rd center and save 2.35 million of cap space.

The LA works for both teams too: TO receive two young centers who can play in the league this year and LA receive two play making D-men who can move the puck well. With Kopitar as their number 1 center Schenn will not get the chance to play as 1st center.

Gagne-Schenn-Kessel
Kulemin-Kadri-Versteeg
Armstrong-Bozak-Sjostrom
Brown-Mitchell-Orr/Caputi

Phaneuf-Schenn
Komisarek-Beauchemin
Lebda-Finger

Payroll: 59million

Jul 09 2010 10:17:53
Leaf fans have hit rock bottom, i never thought a 2nd last place teams fans would want marc savard for thier #1 centre. i have to laugh.right now im laughing.

well if you all get your wish regarding savard, i forsee a 27th finish for the next 4 years.big improvements on the horizon.

D.Backes or J.Staal is coming to T.O. you know healthy Big players who play defence and win faceoffs and go to the net and stay there.

is Savard a slight improvement on wellwood ? or is he just 3 million more per year ? maybe you savard fans can help me ?

Jul 08 2010 18:51:43
Leafs should trade Tomas Kabarle for Marc Savard. Savard is a great player and the #1 centre Toronto needs

Jul 08 2010 18:55:19
It comes down to what you can afford ar what your assets are worth to other teams. If other teams thought as highly of Kaberle and Grabovski as you then you could get Crosby or Ovechkin to come to Toronto but the reality is Kaberle and Grabovski are not very good therefore you will have to be patient during your rebuild. Scratch that VERY PATIENT due to the fact you need to miss another first round of the draft but in 2012 you can draft someone who might be ready to play by 2015. Fabulous idea. Savard would help get you to the playoffs at least but obviously you want Boston to get another great pick. I guess all I have to say is thanks man.

Jul 08 2010 20:17:21
Kabarle

Kulemin

for

Savard

6th rounder

REalistic people

Jul 08 2010 21:44:27
Zherdev to the Flyers

Savard&Kolvalchuk to the Leafs

Jul 09 2010 01:07:05
TOR: Stamkos
TAM: Kaberle, Kulemin, Schenn and Grabovski.

Great deal for Toronto but it ain't gonna happen, not in a million years would Tampa trade Stamkos. Leafs would be giving up a lot the other way. Guess it doesn't hurt to dream a little.

Just imagine - Stamkos and Kessel
- Bozak and Versteeg
- Kadri and Ross

Jul 08 2010 15:48:36
Marc savard is a broken down golf cart. burke's smarter than that ol' trap.

1 good pass, 20% wins on the draw, and a minus -2 is pretty much all savard can muster per game, IF he even stays healthy.

I can't believe how many fans savard actually has, or i can't believe how desperate leaf fans are by wishing for a player like savard

below deal is what i think burke will do

Kabs
Grabs
Irwin
Blacker

for

Berglund
Backes
Jackman

Jul 08 2010 15:55:26
What are you thinking? The Leafs need to cut salary and you want to trade a young d-man you will play at least another 8 years in the NHL who makes less than 1 mil. Kaberle, Komisarek, Beauchemin, Grabovski need to go. These guys values are still pretty good and the will net you solid top 6 fowards. Grabovski's and Kaberle's contracts only add up to 7 mil and with the 1.5mil we have left that's 8.5 mil. You could get one of those centres or wingers but you will be hard pressed to get 2 top 6 fowards in a trade for that much.

C.B

Jul 08 2010 16:19:28
Komisarek, Grabovski, Berry for Ryan

Beauchemin, Hanson for Schenn

Kaberle for 1st DP, 2nd DP, Kassian, Z

Kulemin-Kadri-Kessel
Ryan-Schenn-Versteeg
Caputi-Bozak-Armstrong
Sjostrom-Mitchell-Orr

Phanuef-Schenn
Gunnersson-Finger
Lebda-Aulie
These trade saves us cap room, builds our prospect pool and still allows us to have a solid defence corp.
We don't have a true #1 centre yet but Kadri and Schenn could both be solid #1's or really good #2's in a couple of years.

Jul 08 2010 14:49:53
Leafs will not deal kulemin.he is good for 30 goals this year, why would any GM trade a player it took months of negotiations to sign ? especially when that player just happens to be a two-way tank on skates.

please, everyone, kulemin is safe.burke needs to nab big healthy player(s) that will be useful.

grabovski/kaberle/gunnarson are the bait, not kulemin.legit offer's on the table right now;

Burke wants to find a way to have Z.Kassian included, pittsburgh = mystery, St.louis wants to keep Backes, but they need a veteran QB.

Roy
Gaustad

for

Kaberle
Gunnarsson
Grabovski

OR

Kaberle
Gunnarsson
Grabovski

for

Staal
Rupp

Kaberle

for

Backes

Jul 08 2010 13:27:40
Leafs should trade for ALL star centre Marc Savard That would be awesome.

Jul 08 2010 10:26:48
Every GM has a plan pinhead, it's just how many work. These signings are going to put the Leafs back 5 years unless they make huge changes soon.

C.B

Jul 08 2010 10:45:10
Leafs sign Kolvalchuk!

Jul 08 2010 11:17:24
Since Everyone knows that Burke prefers North Americans to Europeans (Although he has historically not minded Swedes and Finns) that leaves Kulemin, Grabovski and Kaberle as his next marks to trade, interestingly, all 3 of which were on the team before he got here. After cutting them out, and assuming Kadri will move onto one of the top two lines, at either center or left wing, then the leafs roster is:
F- ____, _____, Kessel D- Phaneuf, Schenn Kadri, Bozak, Versteeg Beauchemin, Komisarek Caputi, Hanson, Armstrong Gunnarson, Lebda Sjostrom, Mitchell, Orr G- Giguere, Gustafsson Extras capable of playing- Irwin, Aulie, Orescovic. . So Burke must turn Kaberle, Kulemin and Grabovski into a 1st line center and left winger, not an impossible feat. I don't claim to be privy to insider information, but some players who could slide into those spots, and seem to be available are J. Carter, J. Spezza, B. Richards, J. Staal, V. Lecavalier, S. Weiss and M. Savard at center, who will all command a great deal to trade for and are expensive, but provide what the leafs need. At left wing the pickings are slim, but some possibilities are S. Gagne, B. Ryan, D. Booth and D. Penner. Sliding one of these centers and one of the wingers onto the leafs to line would instantly make them a playoff team, and with the right combination of an elite center and decent winger or decent center and elite winger ie: Lecavalier and Penner, Savard and Ryan, it is at least worth thinking about.

Jul 08 2010 10:00:29
Patrick berglund
david backes

for

tomas kaberle
carl gunnarsson
mikhail grabovski

Jul 08 2010 09:35:06
Seemingly once again out of the Kovi sweepstakes, the LA Kings are turning their attention to other moves.
One rumor has Gange going to LA from Philly with yet no report of what would go to Philly in return as of yet.
This rumor just circulating this morning out of left field..
Reports are the Kings and Bruins working on a blockbuster of a deal. Rumors so far indicating the names in play are Bostons Savard, Ryder, Wheeler and Stuart plus picks and prospect Zach Hammil. For LA we are hearing the likes of Wayne Simmonds and Ryan Smyth. The Bruins are working on deals with Wheeler and Stuart before a trade can go down if they become part of a deal and would likely need to put Ryder on waivers and end up eating part of his salary if he becomes included in all of this. Bruins are waiting to see exactly what the Kings want in return but Smyth and Simmonds are the pieces that the Bruins are after. The big catch is to get a solid return for each team and make it work in the cap world. We will hopefully hear more later on today..

Jul 08 2010 08:17:43
Burke has a plan watch so stop crying like a little baby

Jul 08 2010 07:30:28
Burke signs another defenceman (just what we need) to a NHL contract. That nows leaves us with 8 NHL defencemen on our roster and less than 2 mil left in cap room. Great job. Oh wait, we still don't have any centreman to play with Kessel. Maybe Burke and his brilliant hockey mind is going to move Kaberle to centre. Thanks to Burke's hardon for physical defenceman who can't score the last two years we have no cap space. With the exception of the Phaneuf that actually saved the Leafs money with Stajan's and White's new contracts he has sunk the Leafs Burke has sunk the Leafs. Are the Leafs going to win the cup this year or next? No. We have 2 NHL ready defencemen in Aulie and Oreskovic who play the same game as Komisarek and Beauchemin. There is plenty of interest in both of them so let them go and develop the youngsters who we will need in 4 years when the Leafs will be in a better position. What's the worst that can happen? The Leafs give Boston the second overall pick in next years draft. Oh wait , that's already happened. I would say start a group telling the Leafs how you fell about Burke's spending but they gave him full control and his head is so far up his own ass he couldn't hear you anyways.

C.B

Jul 07 2010 23:19:31
Proposed Trade Between Toronto and Washington

TOR: Brooks Laich and Alexander Semin
WSH: Tomas Kaberle, Mike Komisarek, J.S.
Giguerre, Nikolai Kulemin and Christian Hanson

Explanation:
One of the reasons for Washington's first round exit from the playoffs this past spring was lack of experience and grit on the blueline. Second reason is their goaltending gave up way too many rebounds to the opposition which led to goals against (Varlamov). While they would give up 65 goals to the Leafs in the regular season, keep in mind that the Leafs goal is to make the playoffs and Semin did not have a good playoffs this past spring. What the Leafs would end up receiving is a solid second line centre and a 40 goal scorer to play on the top line with Kessel and Bozak. Washington receives a hard nosed defenseman in Komisarek and a puck-moving defenseman in Kaberle to aid Green on the powerplay as well as making stretch passes to Backstrom and Ovechkin. J.S. Giguerre would provide a veteran, reliable goaltender which could help Washington go far in the playoffs. Unfortunately Washingtonn would probably ask for Kulemin in return and Hanson would be a cheap replacement for the departing Laich in this trade. There is only one problem and that is the salary cap. In this trade Washington would have to eat $18 million and in return, Toronto would only take back $9 million so a deal like this would never happen in a cap world but it does, in theory help both teams address their perceived needs.

Jul 07 2010 23:32:41
That proposed TOR/WSH rumor is absolutely ridiculous in terms of the contracts moving and would never happen in a cap world. At least you acknowledged that much. Here's a modified version of the proposal.

TOR: Semin (40 Goal Scorer)
WSH: Kaberle, Kulemin and Komisarek

or

TOR: Laich and Fehr (Second Line Centre + RW)
WSH: Kaberle, Mitchell and Grabovski

Orr Bozak Kessel
Versteeg Laich Fehr
Armstrong Kadri Sjostrom

or

Semin Bozak Kessel
Orr Kadri Versteeg
Armstrong Hanson Sjostrom

Jul 07 2010 23:39:00
There is no way the Leafs would offer that much to the Capitals for Semin. There were rumors that WSH was contemplating on trading Semin but giving up two top four d-men and a promising young forward in Kulemin is GM suicide or is it? Who on the Leafs outside of maybe Bozak would be feeding both Semin and Kessel? The Leafs, I think would be better off on that second proposed TOR/WSH deal involving Laich and Fehr. Both players scored 20+ goals and would fair well on a second unit with a Versteeg. This would allow Kadri to develop on a third unit penalty kill line with Sjostrom and Armstrong. The Leafs number one unit from this past year would remain intact (Kulemin, Bozak, Kessel). Case solved.

Jul 07 2010 23:57:00
Leafs sign Brett Lebda

Kabarle is on his way out

Jul 07 2010 21:08:20
Kaberle, Grabovski, Sjostrom, for Ryan, Lupul
Berry, Finger

Hanson, Boyce, Giliati for Savard

Versteeg-Savard-Kessel
Ryan-Kadri-Lupul
Kulemin-Bozak-Armstrong
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr

Phaneuf-Schenn
Komisarek-Beauchemin
Gunnersson-Lebda

Jul 07 2010 20:47:56
Burke will NEVER repeat NEVER trade Kaberle, Kulemin and D'Amigo for Ryan. Sorry but it is too much. Kaberle and another prospect ( maybe Boyce or Berry) and that's it. If they don't want it then to bad. If you did that trade as a GM than you would be on ashort leash from the owners. Yes I would like Savard but not straight up for Kaberle. Possibbl a package with Hanson and a prospect or two. They don't need a centre but they could use youth on the wings and defence.

C.B

Jul 07 2010 19:44:15
If Marc Savard was available I think the Maple Leafs should grab him. Savard is an all star centre who just got caught in the number crunch in Boston. The Leafs desperately need a centre man and he has history with Kessel.

Jul 07 2010 20:07:57
I like the Ana Tor proposal

1st realistic trade idea have seen on here in weeks.

But Toronto lands a Ryan or even a Wayne Simmons, they are both RW.

Toronto's RWers now include

Kessel
Versteeg
Armstrong
Sjorstrom
Brown
Orr

I think Toronto needs LW and centres

Is Mark Savard still available??

Jul 07 2010 18:10:48
Trade Proposal Between TOR and ANA

TOR: Bobby Ryan
ANA: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and prospect
Jerry D'Amigo

Reality is that ANA needs NHL quality defensemen in their lineup and TOR has an abundance of NHL quality d-men. Now the entire universe nows the Leafs need to bolster their offensive attack and ANA is nowhere near signing Ryan. The above trade makes sense for both teams and you may need to throw in draft picks to make the deal more appealing.

Jul 07 2010 16:58:07
I know we have had it with the topic but I am posting 1 more about Toronto and Savard.
I realize their are better centers out there. My point is what would you be giving up to get them. Burke is obviously hell bent on moving Kaberle and you know if straight up doesn't work then why not swing a deal and try and get back the 2011 1st rounder that was shipped to Boston last year? Maybe swing a deal and get C - Joe Colborne from the Bruins who is 6'5 200 and ready for the NHL either this year or next in a package along side Savard. Boston is simply neck deep in good centers and Savard is the odd man out. If not for Kaberle then try someone else but throwing Kaberle out there because it fills a need in Boston obviously.Both teams have needs but the Bruins have an emberrassment of riches in prospects. I just think it is the best fit one way or another. Career ending hits can happen to anyone not just Savard so please keep that out of it. As far as Savard not driving to the net well you have other players for that. Savard isn't top three in assists over the last 5 to 10 years because he sucks. He plays the half wall and if you are a decent sniper i.e. Kessel then you will score in bunches PERIOD. Does this make Toronto a Stanley Cup contender ? No but I guarentee the playoffs at least. Who knows what can happen then. Remember the Flyers this year ? Just think it over Burke.

Jul 07 2010 15:21:07
Enough is enough. Is Savard a solid player who can centre a #1 line? YES. Has he been injured recently. YES. We all know this and it is common knowledge. Will Savard make the Leafs a contender next season? NO. The leafs need a little more. They have playoff calibre defence but need a little more help up front and solid goaltending. If the Leafs trade for Hartnell or Backes as some people write it will NOT be straight up. Kaberle is a #1 defenceman. Every G.M in the league knows this, the people who don't are the armchair G.M's who watch about a game a month. The Leafs should trade him for 1 or 2 prospects ready to contribute and a 1st DP. They should sign a free agent or two to fill the holes right now so the the Leafs stay out of the lottery again.

C.B

Jul 07 2010 14:07:57
It would be great for everyone to finally realize that kaberle is one of the top 3 Powerplay defencemen in the NHL. i hope you all can imagine how hard those type of players are to find they are the rarest type of NHL player.

you don't trade kaberle for marc friggin savard, i like savard too, but you just don't do that trade.

i know leafs fans are desperate but why settle for savard ? a player boston would break away from clean if they could.

Can you all please imagine the opposing teams forecheck without kaberle's 1st sharp smart outlet pass ? or his ability to skate the puck out of trouble ? nothing but turnovers off the glass all nite long, oh yeah the powerplay, who going to move the puck around as well as kabbie ? not one leafs defenceman that's who.

if the leafs take away savard from the bruins put kaberle with chara thier handing the bruins a stanley cup contender, bruins will then have all thier pieces in place except shedding thomas.

leafs land 25th-30th and boston cashes in yet again on a nice pick.

Jul 07 2010 12:48:00
To the guy who hates Savard. What is the matter with you? Savard and one more decent LWer will make this team a contender. Kabarle is a hoorible defensemen and he has to go. Toronto has to get rid of Kabarle. Boston has to get rid of Savard. What's 1 + 1 .. in your world does it = 3?

Jul 07 2010 12:54:44
Marc Savard is the answer, and if anyone thinks the Leafs are better without them are clueless

Jul 07 2010 13:08:10
Waht if Savard takes a career ending hit..? What if Anyone takes a career ending hit ..? What's your point ?? To much drama here.

Jul 07 2010 13:08:47
No manager in there right mind would even consider savard, he is a baby, he only gets lots of assists because right when he gets over the blueline he passes it so he doeesnt get hit, hes useless especially to toronto , im a leafs fan and hate grabovski but would rather him than saard

Jul 07 2010 11:44:24
If savard takes a hit and is out you lose nothing ? smart, possibly lose a QB defenseman (about 5 top QB's in the NHL) for a smallish injured centre (about 100 of them)

savard gets a career ending hit, no loss ? he would be "off the books" ? potentially leafs would lose kaberle for him ? are you seriously mental ?

leafs would end up with no centre, no powerplay QB, and the butt of more jokes as another #1 draft pick goes to boston

news flash, wellwood, savard, grabovski are centre's, everyteam can afford a smallish player or two that scores, but the leafs cannot afford a declining injury prone runt as a #1 centre.

Bozak is a much better option than savard, he plays defense, works hard, and is improving in size&offence, savard is declining in health, dosen't play defence and is lazier than spezza.

Hockey IQ, a centre must get to&stand in front of the opposing teams net, a centre must create space for wingers, a centre must check the opposing players centre, and a centre has to provide defensive routine. where does savard fit in, a nifty passer ?

u know what the most obvious sign that people know nothing about hockey, they talk about a players points. im a huge savard fan, but mostly i am honest, and savard won't work as any NHL teams #1 centre.

Jul 07 2010 11:20:32
LA TORONTO

You won't get Schenn or Simmons for Kabarle

and nobody wants Grabovski.

Jul 07 2010 10:45:51
LA
Kaberle
Grabovski

Toronto
Simmonds
Schenn

Jul 07 2010 10:04:18
"give your head a shake pylon, the culture is being changed in toronto, no more crafty 1 dimensional marshmellow players like ".Kessel?

Jul 07 2010 10:08:44
David Backes and Ryane Clowe are useless players Might as well bring back Boyd Devaux and Bates Battaglia

Jul 07 2010 10:31:47
The Leafs should go after Hartnell, he goes hard to the net. But you won t get him for Hanson

I would do Kabarle for Hartnel

Jul 07 2010 09:40:57
Well what was so called sand paper Colby Armstrong brought in for ? Wipe your abrasive ***?
Savards passing won't help ? Ok go out and get George Laraque maybe he will drive to the net for you. Do you even watch hockey games. Savards passing is indeed what the team needs. Every player serves a purpose and fills different voids. To go out and get a Staal or someone like ( sure I would rather have Staal ) BUT that will create several voids and cost you more than $4 million per year I can tell you that.
What is the worst that can happen? Savard gets a career ending hit to the melon then he would be off the books would he not? To all the Savard nay sayers I think maybe you took too many hits to the head.

Jul 07 2010 09:54:41
Leafs sign Morrison

Kaberle, Grabovski for Schenn, 1stDP, Teubert

Hanson, Sjostrom for Hartnell

Kulemin-Morrison-Kessel
Versteeg-Bozak-Kadri
Hartnell-Schenn-Armstrong
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr

Phaneuf-Schenn
Komisarek-Beauchemin
Gunnersson-Finger

Still not a championship team but a possble playoff one. That's a start

Jul 07 2010 09:33:18
Yeah, im sure savard will be a point per game in toronto.best outcome for savard 45pts in 57 games with a -26 rating, leafs are saved.

sundin had twice the talent and size of savard and a way better supporting cast, and sundin was barely a point per game player in toronto.

give your head a shake pylon, the culture is being changed in toronto, no more crafty 1 dimensional marshmellow players like wellwood, savard, grabovski, the wimps are out.

burkie's make'n room for wrecking balls named David Backes and Ryane Clowe.

Jul 07 2010 09:33:47
Yes please get penner on the leafs number one line he could easily put up 40

Jul 07 2010 09:21:21
Edm penner for tor kaberle

burke gets penner back and toronto gets the big forward they covet makes sense to me

Jul 07 2010 00:21:17
Burke picked up Morrison twice already. And now he's just sitting there and again our #2 is Grabovski .. Welcome to Toronto Brandan

Jul 06 2010 21:51:05
The Morrison signing could be a short term answer for a #2 at a cheap price. He will give 50 pts at least playing on any 2nd line in the league but Burke won't sign him. He's not physical os a d-man so Burke has no interest. If it were up to him we would have 23 phsical d-men who couldn't score. Belanger might be a possible #3. He can chip in some points and is a good faceoff man. Both are short term solutions.

C.B

Jul 06 2010 20:49:44
So Savard has had broken back, broken knees, broken feet, and scrambled brains and continues to be a point a game player.. OMG ..get r done Burke, it would be awesome for Toronto !!!

Jul 06 2010 20:02:54
Savard die hards, boston is desperate to trade him, does anyone realize this guy has had ankle surgeries, knee surgeries, 2 major back injuries, both feet broken, hip issues, and has had his eggs scrambled 4 times ? He doesn't even play a rough-type game.

leafs cannot have savard as thier #1 centre, he can't regularly drive to the net, even if he manages to stay healthy, a few crafty passes won't help the leafs problems.

savard supporters please realize that "play without the puck" and "size" is very important. that is not, and never will be savard's game.

staal, backes, kesler are more #1 centre's than savard, they all have offence, size,&defensive abilities savard just doesn't have.savard fans please face it, savard has nice passing.

i would never trade Kabbie, a rare healthy Powerplay QB stud d-man, for savard, a injury riddled smallish centre who is a hangnail injury away from full-time muskoka cottage duties.

like i said leafs hunting list includes backes, staal, ryan, perry, clowe, all are obtainable
in-burke-we-trust

Jul 06 2010 19:58:17
Who is the genius that said Modano and Morrsion will only get 20 points next year? Who wrote that? You never heard of a guy named Mike Modano? What colour is the sky in your world? That's hysterical dude.

Jul 06 2010 19:27:00
For those who didn t understand my POST time stamped

Jul 06 2010 16:44:59

Read it again .slowly this time, and let it sink in

Jul 06 2010 19:21:35
Such simple minds here, not able to think out side the box

Mike Modano racked up 30 pts in 59 games playing 3rd line behind Richards and Riberio. 46 pts and 57 pts the two years prior.

Morrsion racked up 42 pts last year playing 2nd / 3rd line centre.

Considering Toronto will not get Carter Staal Savard, I thought these guys would fill in, wouldn't cost us anything via trade and they'd play cheap.

But if you guys are crazy about Grabovski Irwin and Mitchell.or I forgot, people on this site figure we will get Malkin or Crosby..lol

Jul 06 2010 18:49:59
LOL. Well at least the Minnisota deal is different and could make sense but Modano and Morrison HA HA HA just stop it your killing me already.
Modano might rack up 20 points on the third line and 50 points for Morrison on the second line? Oh my god, this guy wouldn't get 50 on the first line playing with Crosby and Malkin. A bum dude just a bum. You might as well enter the season with what you have rather than spend $2 million on two centers that will pot a combined 40 points IF and ONLY IF they played every game.
Leafs are so screwed if they don't get a legite center. Another top two pick for the Bruins coming up LOL.
See you at next years draft..oh wait..HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ..

Jul 06 2010 17:21:53
Everybody keeps talking about the same trading partners for Kaberle. Just a suggestion but what a deal with Minnesota. You will have to take salary back and give up a prospect or two but Koivu is a UFA next year and MIN might not be able to sign him. He is a big centre that also is a very good 2 way player. He can easily fill the #1 spot with Kessel. Just a thought to throw out there for a change of pace.

C.B

Jul 06 2010 16:44:59
Buddy..take a chill pill. The Leafs have 6 RWers a few LWers two centres in Bozak and Grabovski, and way to many D. I wasn't suggestion Modano be our #1 centre, but it drives me crazy that Modano (who is in great shape kinda the way Chris Chelios was - and not even that old) is ONLY being considered by the brilliant Detroit Red ings AND they have told Mike he will make less than 1 million. As a #3 centre I would take him and his class and his competitiveness and his skills and his Stanley ring over the likes of a Wallin, Primeau, Lundmark or Mitchell. Hey for $1 mill whynot? Same for Morrsion who could probably put up 50+ points on our 2nd line and you could probably snatch him for a million as well. I'm just saying, we probably won t get Stall, Carter, and maybe not even Savard. Therefore Toronto's top 4 centres will be

Bozak
Grabovski
Irwin
Mitchell

What is this.. the same AHL team up front as last year??

Would rather have

Versteeg Bozak Kessel

Kulemin Morrison Armstrong

Cuputi Modano Fjorstom

Brown Mitchel Orr.

(Grabovski traded or waived)

Jul 06 2010 16:51:03
Modano and Morrison are logical - dirt cheap plug ins for this years Toronto Maple Leafs Remember the Leafs need to get better and don twant to give Boston another star next year.

I agree we ain't getting Carteror Staal. There is nothing much else out there either by trade or via FA.

The Leafs have to do something up the middle..something !

Jul 06 2010 15:40:05
Leafs nation WTF? Savard is bar none the smartest decision !

Modano? Morrison? J. Staal?

Modano is 7 years older than Savard ( not a net crasher ) and may get about 40 points if he plays every game

Morrison is worth a 3rd of what Savard gets and is about 1/3 as productive. Also no net crashing. Jeesh no thanks.

Staal - Obviously an upgrade but will command a hell of alot more money then Savard but only produce 2/3 the points. Oh what to do ? Savvy !

Jul 06 2010 14:09:52
Now I heard Boston won t trade Savard to Toronto because it will make them so much better and Boston holds Toronto's first pick next year so they want the Leafs to tank.

Jul 06 2010 14:51:49
Is Burke for real? We already have 8 NHL d-men and if he signs Sutton that will be 9. Sure we want to trade Kaberle but if he doesn't get a quality offer than they are more screwed. If he does move him who's next? Phaneuf, Schenn, Komisarek and Beauchemin are staying. Gunnersson proved last year he should be a top 4-5 d-man. That leaves Finger and Sutton. Are you going to screw up Gunnersson's confidence and send him down or are you gouing to pay Finger to be a #7. He is as good as any #6 in the league, he's just overpaid. You won, t trade his contract. Sutton is a very good d-man on any team but let's be real. Why waste money on an area we are already strong. The leafs have a 6 deep d-man that are as good as most teams even without Kaberle.The top 4 won't be moved because they were just brought in by Burke and by moving them he will be admitting he's wrong. Ya that will happen. If you do sign Sutton you are spending money on a foward that can help out. I would rather he sign a player that can put up at least 50-60 pts/year but doesn't hit/fight(Frolov). The 2 keys to the Leafs success this year is if Gustavsson can play like a #1 and if the Leafs can score goals.

C.B

Jul 06 2010 12:42:46
Toronto has interest in signing Andy Sutton

Jul 06 2010 12:47:01
Holy crap. A big center such as Getzlaf or J. Thornton will cost Toronto a hell of a lot more than Kaberle and they also by themsevles are not the answer either. Hockey is a team sport the last time I checked. Further More you put Savard with Kessel then you put a net crasher with them such as Boston did with Lucic. Call me crazy but that worked quite well in Boston but what the hell, lets give up more talent to get a guy who will get no more points than Savard. Savard is a set up man not a net crasher. Do you not think Colby Armstrong would do that job? Again holy crap leafs land..

LW - ARMSTRONG C - SAVARD RW - KESSEL

Jul 06 2010 12:39:13
Pitsburgh has no interest in trading Staal. Not sure Toronto wants Staal as a #1 centre, maybe a #2

Jul 06 2010 12:40:32
Toronto should offer 1 million dollar contracts to Mike Modano and Brendan Morrison.

Jul 06 2010 12:42:13
Buffalo and Los Angelas need defense badly. Would trade Kabarle to either destination.

Jul 06 2010 09:24:16
Kaberle, Grabovski, Berry, for Schenn, Teubert, Azevedo
Sjostrom

Kulemin, Giliati for Staal

Hanson, Boyce for Hartnell

Kadri-Staal-Kessel
Versteeg-Schenn-sign player
Hartnell-Bozak-Armstrong
Caputi-Mitchell-Orr

Jul 05 2010 20:15:35
Bieksa for filatov?

Jul 06 2010 00:11:22
Hey, none of these deals make any sense. Why is everybody so high on Kulemin all of a sudden for only a second half of a season? The reason why he played was because he was in a free agency year and he wants to be traded to Pittsburgh to play with his pal Malkin. Smells like there could be a trade to be had here bringing back Jordan Stall for Kulemin and a player possibly Mitchell going the other way?

Jordan Stall to me is a prototypical second line centre for this Leaf team. A trade scenario makes sense for both teams. Pittsburgh is looking for forwards to play with Crosby and Malkin and Kulemin fits the bill while at the same time, Mitchell is a cheaper replacement as a third line centre for Stall.

This still does not address the need for a first-line centre. The question for Leaf brass is in addition to trading Kaberle and Grabovski as part of a package, would they also consider moving Bozak to acquire
a top notch centre to play with Kessel? Who would you part with Bozak or D'Amigo? From what I hear, D'Amigo has the makings of a Zach Parise type of player.

In my opinion, Bozak has all the makings to the Leafs what Toews is to the Blackhawks. The only difference is that Bozak needs to get stronger and hover around 205 lbs without sacrificing speed.

I think that the most logical solution would be to package Kaberle, Grabovski and Caputi or Sjostrom to L.A. to try to obtain Brayden Schenn and a prospect defenceman Colten Teubert or Thomas Hickey or both. Who is a better defensive prospect Keith Aulie or Colten Teubert? Would Burke sweeten the pot to throw in Aulie as part of the deal and get Teubert as well?

I believe that if Schenn became a Leaf, he would be perfect on the left side with Bozak at centre and Kessel on the right wing. Second line Colten Orr with Jordan Stall and Kris Versteeg. Penalty killing third line of Kadri with Sjostrom and Armstrong.

Jul 05 2010 14:03:51
To the guy that thinks he knows it all. How do you put Versteeg ahead of Kessel. Kessel scored 30 goals on a weak team and with a proper set up man can score 45-50 goals. You are proboly one of those idiots that are claiming some Leaf fans overrate their players. The Leafs are in the market for a #1 centre to play with Kessel not Versteeg. Versteeg is a very good player and may play on the #1 line at left wing. For the people putting Irwin on the Leafs roster, those are proboly suggested lines. Irwin is a 6' 5 centre and we all know that Burke and Wilson love size down the middle. People were saying Bozak and Stalberg wouldn't make the team either. I'm not saying he will put I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

C.B

Jul 05 2010 14:13:16
In extension to my last comment, when somebody has two people on the same line it is saying that both can play that position. Here's a free lesson for you crackhead. Teams usually carry at least 13 fowards 7 defencemen. Caputi will make the team, he's a 50 goal scorer in junoir and is a hometown boy with size. Let me guess you have an office under Burke's desk and think Sweat will make the team instead or maybe doing those 3 way trades.

C.B

Jul 05 2010 14:13:21
Hey, i like savard too, but with his concussion issue's and his pot belly i would rather a player who can actually make it to the front of the net.

savard is listed as 5'10 and 193lbs. c'mon man iv'e seen this guy, he's 5'8 and about 170lbs tops, going on 33 years old, i don't see him lighting any fires and more importantly ther's less chance of him regularly driving hard to the net.

you gotta call it straight, savard is a talented guy, great passer, but he MUST not be the leafs #1 centre.

the leafs cannot match up talent wise with about 70% of the teams in the NHL, and savard alone won't change that. There is little choice but to unearth behemoth size, ESPECIALLY at centre and defence.

LEAFS LIST

centre's
D.Backes
J.Thornton
R.Getzlaf
J.Staal

wingers
J.Neal
R.Clowe
B.Ryan
C.Perry

Jul 05 2010 13:28:37
For all you people who keep putting irwin on the roster
he will not make the team he will be playing on the marlies for years to come and why would u put brown/orr, orr is a guarantee to make the team he doesn't even have to show up to training camp and brown will be playing instead of irwin, caputi has a very slight chance at making the team aswell, and versteeg would be 1st line not kessel

Jul 05 2010 12:41:46
No other deal for Toronto makes more sense than bringing in Savard from Boston. This helps both teams. Players are same age, same money but Toronto gets an advantage because Savard is locked up for seven years at a very affordable $4 million cap hit. You will not find a better centerman for any better money than that. Burke is an absolute moron if he does not make this deal. Is Burke waiting for Boston to request Toronto first rounder in 2012 to pull the trigger on the deal. Being shafted twice isn't enough? Do it before it is too late and we end up paying way more for a guy that can only get 50 points per year such as Brenden Morrison.

Jul 05 2010 12:12:18
Grabovski, Stefanovich, Berry, for Spezza
$4 mil

Kaberle, Sjostrom for Ryan

Hanson, Beauchemin, Boyce, for Souray, Gagner
4thDP

OTT gets rid of Spezza's contract and the money they just paid out to him plus a centre and 2 prospects
EDM gets rid of all of Souray's contract plus a prospect and a top 4 d-man

Ryan-Spezza-Kessel
Versteeg-Gagner-Armstrong
Kulemin-Bozak-Kadri
Caputi-Irwin-Orr/Brown

Jul 05 2010 12:39:08
Proposed Blockbuster Deal Between The Maple Leafs and the Kings,

LAK: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin, Mikhail
Grabovski, John Mitchell and Jesse Blacker
TOR: Brayden Schenn, Colten Teubert and Wayne
Simmonds

Jul 05 2010 12:00:01
I don't even think that david backes could make the Toronto Maple Leafs We have enough 3rd liners

Jul 05 2010 10:01:34
You must not watch hockey if you think david backes is not a #1 centre or top winger, at $2.5 per year he is the very best power foward in the NHL.

at the olympics he and bobby ryan were team USA's best fowards every game by far, and i hate USA hockey.

he scores, hits, fights, and plays with a streak every nite. he also plays wing, centre, powerplay&kills penalties.

honestly have you even seen backes play hockey ? you must think kulemin is a 3rd line'r aswell.

Jul 05 2010 10:20:53
If Detroit is considering bringing in Madoano at less than a million, why wouldn't the Leafs? As well, Burke has a connection with Brendan Morrison

Jul 05 2010 09:52:42
Interesting set of rumours, kabbie would probably sign a 3yr extension in LA or SJ

kabbie + blacker for d.brown

kabbie for clowe + demers

kabbie + gunnarson + grabovski for neal + fistric

kabbie + grabovski + prospect for ryan

leafs to possibly sign j.madden and or ja.williams.

defence wise a.johnson or a.sutton.

Jul 05 2010 08:35:27
Bakes is not a number 1 center even on the leafs hes a third liner at best

Jul 04 2010 19:37:26
To the guy who wrote about the leafs #1 center that's way too much to give up and you wrote anton stralman as a center, he was already a leaf plus hes a defenseman

Jul 04 2010 20:21:54
#1 centre is backes, richards or getzlaf,

im sorry to say mueller is a headcase, rj umberger has scrambled eggs for brains, stralman is a defenceman who can't defend, filatov is fragile in body and mind and probably won't be able to ever handle the nhl. the rest have not really proved anything except high non-nhl stats.

i don't think burke will trade a proven 2-way player who is capable of 30 goals.kulemin is a top notch talent who was 1 goal behind malkin in the khl a few years ago.kid can play.

staal&carlson should be on the leafs radar.

Jul 04 2010 21:39:24
Not surprised that Marty Rurco is still out of work. He was so brutal the last two years in Dallas. Hang 'em up Marty ..your done

Jul 04 2010 19:09:36
It is quite obvious to the entire NHL that the Leafs need a number 1 centre. With all due respect to Tyler Bozak, he is better suited as the number 2 centre on this team with Nazem Kadri as the number 3 centre.

A deal for a number 1 centreman for the Leafs must include Kaberle and a roster player like Kulemin and a prospect Ruegsegger and or Caputi. Players of interest for the Leafs should include Jeff Carter, Peter Mueller, R.J. Umberger, Anton Stralman, Nikita Filatov, Brayden Schenn, Cody Hodgson, Josh Bailey, Kyle Okposo, Jordan Stall, Brooks Laich, John Carlson

Jul 04 2010 16:12:18
Bieksa and Raymond for Bobby Ryan almost a done deal. Have and inside source with the Ducks. Jackets and Thrashers still a possibility!

Jul 04 2010 16:53:37
Someone had mentioned moving Jeff Finger and his 3.5 mill contract. That's fine if you can do it. As bad as it appears, I can't believe Dan Hamius got 4.5 .. for 6 years? Anyway . One thing that won't happen - Burke will not send Finger to the minors OR will not buy him out. Why? Because Burke is trying to create a desirable culture here in Toronto, and he is respecting Jeff Finger and his contract. Remember, Jeff Finger is playing the same hockey he is now as he was before Fletcher gave him a truck full of money. If Finger was under performing then yeah banish him. But he is preforming the same as before

Jul 04 2010 17:11:08
My goodness, there are no more c entres to be had, and the Leafs need a number 1 NHL Calibre centre. Just take Savard - it would be stupid not to at this point

Savard for Grabovski

Done.. lets go.

Jul 04 2010 15:43:31
Kaberle, Grabovski, Hanson, for Carter, Gagne
Berry

Finger, Stefanovich, Raugesseger, for Souray, Cogliano
5thDp

Gagne-Carter-Armstrong
Versteeg-Cogliano-Kessel
Caputi-Bozak-Kadri
Sjostrom-Irwin-Orr/Brown

Phaneuf-Schenn
Souray-Komisarek
Beauchemin-Gunnerson

Jul 04 2010 15:18:08
As of now this is what the leafs lines should be

forwards
1) kulemin kadri versteeg
2) caputi bozak kessel
3) sjostrom grabovski armstrong
4) brown hanson orr

defense
1)phaneuf beauchemin
2)kaberle schenn
3)komisarek gunnarsson

they should sign torres and make him a center and dump grabovski the 3rd line would be sjostrom torres armstrong which would be best third line in the league, then trade kaberle for malone and put him where caputi is

Jul 04 2010 14:59:44
Tor should sign kovy and torres probably won't happen but just imagine

kovy bozak kessal
kulemin kadri versteeg
torres mitchell/hanson armstrong
brown/sjostrom mitchel/hanson orr

phaneuf schenn
komi beauch
gunner kaberle

looks like a contending roster to me

Jul 04 2010 10:29:26
I think burk should go to bos and work out something like this..
tor gets..lucic and savard

bos gets..kaberle, grabovski, caputi/michell or even borh to make this happen..

first line lucic/savard/kessell..
kessell and savard do their thing and big lucic in front of the netunstopable

Jul 04 2010 10:00:17
The Toronto LA Toronto NYI trades below are goofy. WHY.. why would LA or NYI make those trades?

Jul 04 2010 05:38:33
NY Isle:
Komisarek
Jay Rosehill
Alex Berry
Grabovski

Toronto:
Josh Bailey
Nino Niederreiter

Jul 04 2010 05:39:39
LA:
Kaberle
3rd 2011

Toronto:
Brown
2nd 2011

Jul 04 2010 00:27:11
Any truth to the rumor Philadelphia is looking to add a goaltender? How about this and does this make any sense?

PHI: J.S. Giguerre, Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin
and Tomas Plekanec.
TOR: Jeff Carter, Ville Leino and P.K. Subban.
MTL: Daniel Briere, John Mitchell, Luca Caputi and
the rights to Jesse Blacker.

Is Marty Turco still available as a free agent? If so, the Leafs should sign Turco to a one-year deal @ 3.5 million/yr. This should give the Leafs ample time to groom Gustavsson as the number 1 goalie in 2011-2012.

Jul 04 2010 01:18:43
Look how bad Columbus is getting ripped off, Filatov, Voracek and Brassard for Speeza, why would they do that, that's 3 top 10 picks.

Jul 04 2010 01:50:21
Philadelphia signs Ilya Kovalchuk to a 7 year / $84 million dollar contract. To make cap room to accomodate the signing, PHI does the following,

PHI: Trades Jeff Carter and Ville Leino to Toronto for Tomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski and John Mitchell.

PHI: Trades Simon Gagne to L.A. for Wayne Simmonds

PHI: Trades Danny Briere to MTL for P.K. Subban
and Tomas Plekanec

Jul 03 2010 19:23:54
Tor kaberle +caputi+grabo for LA Brown +Schenn

Jul 03 2010 20:17:10
A trade makes sense in that in order to give up something you have to get something in return. Three and four team deals do not work in a salary cap era. Another point, while it very well may be the case that Kulemin in 2 to 3 years might be a star in this league, the Leafs don't have 2 to 3 years in order to make the playoffs. They need to make the playoffs this coming season and win at least one round.

TOR: Jeff Carter and Ville Leino
PHI: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and John
Mitchell

TOR: Nikita Filatov
CLB: Mikhail Grabovski, Luca Caputi and 2nd rd pick
in 2011

Potential Maple Leaf Forward Lines 2010-2011

Orr Carter Kessel
Leino Bozak Versteeg
Armstrong Kadri Filatov
Brown Hanson Sjostrom

Jul 03 2010 22:09:11
Trade bettween ducks and toronto

to toronto

rights to bobby ryan

to ducks

kabrle
kardri

comments

Jul 03 2010 18:15:50
To the person who wrote the 4 way deal you must be a boston fan because boston gives up nothing in this deal savard is useless and wheeler hasnt proven anything yet maybe change those 2 players to lucic and bergeron(seguin) and its fair

Jul 03 2010 16:10:34
4 way between tor bos cbj and ott..

tor get.savard, filatov, voracek

cbj get spezza

ottawa gets..brassard blake wheeler, jon mitchell and a 5th from tor

bos gets kaberle grabovski

Jul 03 2010 13:38:51
That 3 team trade is ridiculously dumb montreal gives up nothing the leafs give up a top 2 dman, a top 6 forward and philly gives up 2 top liners

Jul 03 2010 11:17:22
If Toronto Maple Leafs have any change they have to DUMP Jeff Finger. He makes 3.500 M for 2 more years the Toronto Maple Leafs could have got Matthew Lombardi he got 19 goals and 53 points in 78 games played. Plus they can add one more forward IF THEY DUMP JEFF FINGER I THINK THAT'S THE Only way they to even has a change of making the playoff's.
GOOD LUCK BB

Jul 03 2010 10:47:48
For the 3 team deal(Philly, T.O, MTL), you must be a Habs fan. Philly and T.O are giving up all the talent and MTL gives up hardly anything. You must be overating Koistitsyn. You couldn't trade Koistitsyn and Moen for Briere or Carter or Kaberle straight up.Koistitsyn is a second line winger at best. Kulemin will be a better player in 2-3 years. If MTL gives up Plekanec and Subban with a prospect you will get a deal. Stop wasting our time. Three way deals are very hard to do for real GM's, that's why you don't see them that often. People stop wasting our time, THINK before you write.
C.B

Jul 03 2010 09:28:01
If Philadelphia is looking to shed some salary off their cap, does this mean that Daniel Briere is available? If so, is it a possibility we could see a three team trade involving Toronto, Montreal and Philadelphia? I'm thinking principle players going would be Kaberle, Kulemin, Hanson, Carter, Briere, Moen, Kostitsyn

Potential Trade Could Look Something Like This

TOR: Carter, Moen
PHI: Kaberle, Kulemin, Kostitsyn
MTL: Briere, Hanson

Breakdown
TOR acquires a first line centre and a winger with size. PHI upgrades their defense and adds youth on the wings to replace Briere. MTL obtains a coveted French Canadian player with skill along with a younger replacement for Moen. Looks to me like a win/win for all teams involved. Comments/Thoughts.

Jul 02 2010 20:44:56
Mike Modano signed for 1 year 1 to 1.7 M with the Detroit Red Wings.

Jul 02 2010 16:37:39
Versteeg is better than kessel by a long shot all kessel does is shoot

Jul 02 2010 15:33:46
Kaberle for Couture, Nichol, 1stDP

Hanson, Grabovski, Mid level Prospect for Weiss

Finger for 5thDP

Kulemin-Weiss-Kessel
Kadri-Couture-Versteeg
Caputi-Bozak-Armstrong
Sjostrom-Nichol-Orr/Brown

This gives S.J the quaterback they lost in Blake. FLA gets cap relief and younger and T.O gets a faceoff man(Nichol), top six centre(Weiss) and potenial top six(Couture). Finger gives us a DP and Aulie/Oreskovic a chance to crack the lineup.

Jul 02 2010 15:34:40
BOS - SAVARD FOR TOR - KABERLE

Makes perfect sense because fills a hole on each team and same $ 4 million cap hit both ways. Both players are the same age and on a scale of 1 to 10 are each about a 6.5 for each of their respected positions.

Arnold says " c'mon, do it now !!!

Jul 02 2010 15:41:34
To LA: Malkin
To Pittsburgh: Kopitar, Simmonds

Jul 02 2010 15:44:34
What does Burke tell people. I want a #1 centre and a top six foward or two. Jokinen is a #1 centre who gives you point per game stats or close to it. Whitney is a top six foward who still puts up 60-70 pts per year. So what does Jokinen, Whitney and Armstrong have in common? They were all signed for the same amount of money. Smart way to spend your money you idiot. Yes he can play in all situations but so can Jokinen and Whitney. Burke is giving him the money because he hits a little more. You still have to score you moron.Now he says he wants another defenceman. Can you count? With Kaberle we have 7 on our roster and you picked up Aulie because you said he can play right now. That gives us 8. How many do you want to carry. Name one team in the history of the NHL that won a Cup because they beat people up. The Broad Street Bullies still scored and Anaheim had more talent than brawn. Use your head for more than just a paperweight. You didn't put a bunch of 3rd liners on Team USA.
C.B

Jul 02 2010 15:03:20
Philly tryin to send k.timonen packing, columbus kickin timo's tires, if that happens leafs can say goodbye to hartnell or carter.

leafs have to drop grabovski and kaberle and fill the holes, before teams tire of the game.

Kabbie is now the absolute best option for about 15 teams that need his type of services,

buffalo pay the burke ransom you have no defencemen left, anahiem your going to lose bobby ryan or end up overpaying to keep him.philly, if you can't move timonen ante up carter or hartnell.

Burke is holding a high card, but its not the highest card in the deck. get it done.

Jul 02 2010 15:08:09
Thats way too much too give up for ryan, maybe all that for getzlaf, ryan isn't even close to the caliber of getzlaf

Jul 02 2010 15:09:44
Leafs are a little too high on kulemin, but i can't imagine burke saying no on any deal that involves ryan..

i still think bobby ryan would already be a leaf if burke could part with kadri..

the team who is alot closer than almost anyone thinks is st.louis, tons of great young defencemen, not one experienced QB.

Backes

for

Kaberle

Jul 02 2010 14:54:45
Sounds as if Philadelphia does not need Kaberle.
Who else would be interested in him? There is only one team that comes to mind and that is Anaheim who is in desperate need of NHL defensemen.

Does anybody think the below proposed trade has any traction,

To ANA: Kaberle, Kulemin, Grabovski and Hanson
To TOR: Ryan and future considerations

Something isn't right here?

Is Jeff Carter available and could the Leafs ship J.S. Giguerre to Philly as part of a package involving Kulemin and Hanson?

Jul 02 2010 13:10:58
Burke should pick up souray off waivers hes better than people think and hes healthy now

Jul 02 2010 10:16:52
Philly will not trade Hartnell for Kulemin. Philly needs to cut payroll and the cash Kulemin wants won't to that. Hanson, and a prospect is what the leadfs should offer or Grabovski and a prospect.

Jul 02 2010 10:45:53
Hanson, Sjostrom, 6th DP for Hartnell

Grabovski, Berry, Finger for Schenn

Kaberle for Brassard 1st DP

Jul 02 2010 07:25:34
I said when we signed him and he keeps proving me right. Burke is an average G.M with a hall of fame ego. He says Cammalleri is overpaid at 5 mil(80 pts/season) so he pays Armstrong 3 mil(40 pts in a season twice). What's next, Primeau at 3 years for 2.5 mil. I like the Versteeg trade but think we gave up to much. Burke trades a point per game game in the AHL(Tlusty) for Paradis than ships him out. He trade a player that averages more than a point per game in the CHL(DiDominico) for a guy that doesn't average a point per game in U.S college. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that one is american and the other is a guy under 6 feet from Quebec. Hanson, Paradis, 6thDP for Versteeg.

Jul 01 2010 23:29:39
Scott Hartnell is on his way to Toronto for Nicolai Kulemin

Jul 01 2010 20:03:19
Savard to Toronto makes sense. Good call buddy

Jul 01 2010 20:13:35
Not overly impressed with Versteg or Armstrong. Any GM could have given up 3 good prospects and over[paid for a FA. Now lets see Burke get a centre for Kabarle. If Burke doesn't mustard up something, he might as well take Savard. It would be dumb not to.

Jul 01 2010 19:33:11
Ok work by burkie, but he forgot nystrom.

burkie sign

kulemin
nystrom

savard for grabovski, boston saves 1.1 million we gamble with savvy.trade kabbie for backes
pick up a.johnson&r.johnson for depth. playoffs here we come.

Jul 01 2010 18:41:30
If the leafs trade kabby and kulemin for savard its a disgrace savard isn't even worth 1 of them

Jul 01 2010 18:45:19
The Leafs don't want Marc Savard. He is a small player who has a history of concussions. What is taking Brian Burke so long to trade Kaberle and Kulemin? If the Leafs hold on to Kaberle any longer he is going to end up being like Mats Sundin who will retire as a Leaf and not bring anything of value back.

Wake up Burke and make the deal happen now!

TOR: Jeff Carter and Ville Leino
PHI: Tomas Kaberle, Nikolai Kulemin and Mikhail
Grabovski

No need for Matthew Lombardi
Bring up one of the kids Jesse Blacker, Keith Aulie to fill Kaberle's spot.

Jul 01 2010 17:29:29
Kovalchuk to Toronto

Then Toronto takes Savard off Boston

Then Leafs top 2 lines wold be

Versteeg Bozak Kessel

Kolvalchuk Savard Armstrong

Jul 01 2010 17:07:44
Kovalchuk to toronto!!!

Jul 01 2010 16:08:22
Trade between Toronto and Boston

Marc Savard

for Kabarle&Kulemin

Jul 01 2010 11:43:44
Trade bettween toronto and dallas

thomas kabrle
mikhall grabovski
luke scheen

for

brad richards
rights to james neal

Jul 01 2010 11:05:45
Montreal will make some space on the cap

hamrlik for justin william in LAK ( LA need a good defenseman ..and william is always injurd )

andrei kostitsyn - spacek - paciorretty for penner -whitney

markov - 1pick2011 - kristo vs laich - ferh - schultz

pouliot - louis leblanc - william for iginla

fischer- maxwell - o byrne vs wideman

penner - gomez - gionta
cammalleri - eller - iginla
laich - plecanek - ferh
moen - pyatt - lapierre

withney - subban
schultz -wideman
gill - georges

price - ellis

Jul 01 2010 08:25:47
Leafs just picked up versteeg

Jul 01 2010 09:12:38
Like i was saying before my connection was lost, no crush on kulemin, just a fan of hockey and hockey talent, its unfortunate alot of hockey sites are ruined by people like you, by the way i went to about 25 nhl games last year, my paper route is pretty much all of canada so you can see how i can afford my tickets.

i guess burke thinks kulemin is a 3rd line checker too, you know dealing away the leafs 2 better prospects and stalberg who is the fastest 6'3 200lb player in the nhl, you know ahead of crappy ol' 3rd line chek'r kulemin.

honestly are you allowed to be on a computer ?

souray for brewer
kaberle/prospect for backes
grabovski&gunnarson for savard&sal dump
leafs sign e.nystrom
leafs sign z.michalek

p.s. every team in the nhl has interest in backes, 2.5 per year, best power foward for the buck.

Jul 01 2010 09:13:54
Now that Kris Versteeg is a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs, Tomas Kaberle, I hope will not remain with Toronto much longer.

TOR: Jeff Carter and Ville Leino
PHI: Tomas Kaberle and Nikolai Kulemin

above trade happens if PHI signs Ilya Kovalchuk.
above trade happens if TOR signs Dan Hamhuis or long shot Anton Volchenkov.

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Hamhuis Schenn
Gunnarson Komisarek

Orr Carter Kessel
Leino Bozak Versteeg
Caputi Kadri Sjostrom
Brown Irwin Hanson

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