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18 Jul 2018 17:16:37
TB Trades:
- Mikhail Sergachev
- Ryan Callahan
- Tyler Johnson
- Taylor Raddysh
- 2020 1st Round Pick

OTT Trades:
- Erik Karlsson
- Zack Smith
- Bobby Ryan

NYR Trade:
- Matt Beleskey
- 2019 4th Round Pick



TB Acquires:
- Erik Karlsson
- Zack Smith
- Matt Beleskey

OTT Acquires:
- Mikhail Sergachev
- Tyler Johnson
- 2019 4th Round Pick

NYR Acquires:
- Bobby Ryan
- Ryan Callahan
- Taylor Raddysh
- 2020 1st Round Pick.

18 Jul 2018 17:52:23
Sens fans are not going to like this lol Rambo and crazyattack will tell you that smith and Ryan are both better than Johnson.

18 Jul 2018 18:01:27
Id do it as Tampa. Not sure NYR are willing to take Ryan, or that Johnson would waive his NTC for OTT.

18 Jul 2018 19:23:30
Lol i'd figure so@UBJ.

My main reason for this is to kinda show the offset of value that Ryan might bring into a trade. Without Ryan, Ottawa could probably get more for EK, but with him, a third partty would get the addins (Raddysh and the 1st) . The Rangers basically give up nothing to take on two cap dumps which can be afforded, and they get another 1st and Raddysh. Ottawa gets the main piece in Serg and a decent C to replace Brassard.

And good to hear @JB. Was assuming that it may be a lot from TB’s perspective, but good to hesr that it sounds decent.

18 Jul 2018 21:27:10
I mean. It is a lot. But its both getting Erik Karlsson and dumping Callahan. Its not going to be all that cheap and the pieces involved I can live with and have kinda already come to terms with those pieces having to go to pull this off.

19 Jul 2018 10:02:34
I think it is a lot. Also what do we want with Beleskey and Smith?

19 Jul 2018 13:18:38
Smith would adequately fill a third line role and fill in top 6 (were losing Johnson and Cally here and are already relying on rookies in bottom 6 this year) . Actually one of the reasons i'm more comfortable giving up what they are here. Beleskey is 2 mill. You can bury a chunk of it in the minors or maybe throw him on 4th line. If you got to take him back to make the trade happen its not a deal breaker imo.

19 Jul 2018 14:19:09
@triplets, other teams are taking guys they aren’t overly excited about to make the deal work. Bolts are getting the best player by a long shot, have to compromise too. Downgrading a guy in your middle 6 to get Karlsson is an easy yes for anyone to see.

09 Jul 2018 19:36:04
CBJ: Artemi Panarin,Ryan Murray
NYR: Buchnevich, Sean Day, 2019 1st, Vesey,3rd round pick


1:Artemi wants out,Murray needs a change
2:Buch has 30 goal potential, Day could be a top 6 defenseman, Vesey needs a change

09 Jul 2018 20:10:26
Huge no from CBJ.

10 Jul 2018 15:28:18
really 30 goal potential. He hasn't even hit 20 and he has 30 goal potential.

I am speachless.

11 Jul 2018 02:47:11
Panarin has said doenst know if he can stay for 8 years, this gives them lots of time to get a way better deal.

08 Jul 2018 00:02:56
Trade suggestion including 3 teams your thoughts? To:FLAMES. James Reimer 3.4 mil x 3rys. 30yrs old Nick Bjugstad 4.1 mil x 3yrs. 25yrs old To:Panthers Zuccarellio 4.5 mil x 1yr 30yrs old. Sam Bennett 1.95 mil 22yrs olds. Prospect Oliver Kylington. Rangers 1st 2019. To:Rangers Troy Brouwer 4.5 mil x 2yrs 32yrs old. Michael Frolik 4.3 mil x 2yrs 30yrs old. Keith Yandle 6.35 mil x 5yrs 31 yrs old. Flames 2nd&3rd picks 2020.

08 Jul 2018 21:03:17
So
Flames get - James Reimer, Nick Bjugstad
Panthers get - Mats Zucarello, Sam Bennett, Rangers 1st
Rangers get - Troy Brouwer, Michael Frolik, Keith Yandle, flames 2nd and 3rd

Rangers are rebuilding, flames get fleeced, florida rips off both teams lol. Dumb, flames are good down the middle and at goal aswell.

08 Jul 2018 23:45:53
Flames won't trade their 2nd and 3rd this year after they collosally botched the hamonic trade.

09 Jul 2018 02:54:09
Thanks for clearing that up billy.

09 Jul 2018 20:35:03
Flames have to pay to dump brouwer and in this scenario we free up cap space. Any sugestions to make this a bit better?

07 Jul 2018 18:19:55
Ok so Tampa and Ottawa are close to a deal but Tampa want a 3rd or maybe even 4th team involved to dump some cap so.

Ott : sergachev, point, Johnson, nyi 1st

Tbl : Karlsson, white, ott 3rd, nyr 6th

Nyi : palat, Ryan, pageau, tbl 2nd

Nyr : Callahan, tbl 3rd

Rangers get a fan favorite back plus upgrade their pick for next to nothing

Islanders get 2 top 6 guys with scoring touch to fill the void left by tavares plus a serviceable 3rd line center by downgrading their 1st to a 2nd

Ottawa gets a 1st back plus 2 promising young talents bu taking on Johnson's cap to replace Ryan's

Tampa dumps a bunch of cap but upgrades a late 3rd to what will prob be an early 3rd plus they get a 6th a high end prospect who will fit nicely with them and oh yeah the best defenceman in the world.

Killorn stamkos kucherov
Gourd miller cirelli

Hedman Karlsson
Mcdonagh Girardi

Deadly at both ends.

07 Jul 2018 19:07:28
Islander and rangers get hose very bad.

07 Jul 2018 19:29:22
Aiii this makes no sense so lemme break it down:

TB Acquires: Karlsson, White, 3rd, 6th
TB Trades: Serg, Point, Johnson, Palat, Callahan, 2nd, 3rd

OTT Acquires: Sergachev, Point, Johnson, 1st
OTT Trades: Karlsson, White, Ryan, Pageau, 3rd

NYI Acquires: Palat, Ryan, Pageau, 2nd
NYI Trades: 1st

NYR Trades: 6th
NYR Acquires: Callahan, 3td

Okay. putting into perspective, ottawa, as per usual with rambo propsosals, fleeces everyone. You get potentially a top5 pick, serg and point for EK w one year left, a terrible contract that will take at least a 1st to get rid off, some throw aways and colin white.

Lets say white = johnson.
pageaus worth nothing in the grand scheme of things; karlsson gets one of serg or point and a 1st (NOT AN NYI FIRST THAT COULD BE TOP10), and ryan takes away value from the deal. that's a ripoff by Ottawa.

tampa gets fleeced too, downgrading from Johnson to White, and then basically all of their youth and a 60 pount winger in Palat for EK. that's not even close to fair. Sure they get rid of callahan but his contract is MUCH easier to get rid of than Ryans, and Ottawa got more value back that way in the proposed deal. And don't tell me Callahans contract is worse and weighs down the deal. Ryans contractis 10x worse.

and nyi doesn't make that deal that pixk can be top10 and nobody wants ryan.

and itll take more to entice NYR to take Callahan.

07 Jul 2018 20:27:56
Islanders take on a brutal contract, a 3rd liner and a decent player that won’t help their case rebuilding and in return take their first rounder (probably top 5) and downgrade to Tampa’s 2nd (should be 55-62). Lol this is awful.

In reality Bobby Ryan is nothing more than a bad contract which the islanders can take but would want a first rounder to do it.

On your mind he’s still a good player. which hurts their rebuild.

Either way you just involved the islanders to help the senators, not themselves lol.

07 Jul 2018 20:50:07
You're setting yourself up for a major disappointment again.

07 Jul 2018 22:31:37
There is absolutely no chance that Karlsson goes for any less than both sergachev and point plus a 1st so get over you unrealistic expectations. Ottawa lost enough trades and getting fleeced on this one is simply not an option.

On top of all that Tampa is up against the cap with or with getting Karlsson as kucherov is up for a huge raise soon and point sergachev cirelli and gourds will also be getting substantial raises. with 3 million in space how do you propose they pull it off?

Tampa after this type of deal can afford to sign EK and give kucherov his raise plus have enough down the road for gourde and cirelli plus they get a future replacement for Johnson in white.

Rangers hardly get fleeced when all they give up is a 6th and in return they get back a fan favourite and a 3rd they come out great and Tampa dumps a bad contract.

Ottawa gets value for value and dumps an overpayed/ not bad contract in Ryan.

Islanders get 2 guys who consistantly get 50+ points a season and a playoff performer 3rd line center by downgrading a 1st to a 2nd.

No matter how you look at it no team gets fleeced in this.

Ottawa gets a future

Tampa forms the realist defence in the league without losing its stride up front and dumps a lot of un needed cap

Islanders get a few pieces to lessen the blow of losing tavares

Rangers basically get something for nothing as a 6th making it in NHL is basically a what? 5% chance?

All teams get better after this.

And fyi no way in hell Johnson equals white. Johnson been going downhill and is slightly overpayed just like Ryan. Tampa is actually trying to move him anyway with or without ek trade.

Plus both rangers and islanders have more than enough cap space to take on these contracts after these last 6 months.

08 Jul 2018 00:49:06
Unbiased jim how does this not help the islanders? They are not in rebuild and are set to offer a huge offer sheet to either Matthew's or marner next season. don't you think either of those guys will want someone to play with? A top 6 of 1 of those 2, barzal, eberle, bailey, Lee, and either Palat, or Ryan sounds pretty solid to me and 1 of those guys on 3rd line with pageau gives massive depth. a team like that wouldn't need a rebuild for a while. and that's not even counting wahlstrom who will also be joining the team eventually this trade definately makes the islanders strong enough to be a playoff team this season and if they land one of the big toronto 2 next season they'll be even crazier.

Then you got the rangers who have tons of cap space and essentially give a useless pick to get a decent pick and a guy who is familiar with their team. again rangers get stronger too.

Tampa needs to dump a contract or 2 for kucherov to be affordable anyway so why not dump 3 huge contracts and bring in the top defenseman in the world to boot. on top of that point sergachev gourde cireli and Miller are going to want big raises as well when contracts are up and there is no way tamp can afford all 5 so it makes sense to use 2 to get a huge piece that can put them over the edge like Karlsson can by jacking up their defence and giving the younger guys they still would have a shot at more ice time it's obvious that Tampa is not only more affordable after the deal but also much stronger for it plus with all the guys moving out white gets a shot to join NHL roster much sooner.

I for one as a true Sens fan would consider any less than a trade involving point and sergachev type players and a 1st round pick a massive loss on Sens part. a loss that cannot be allowed after every other garbage trade Dorian has made.

08 Jul 2018 04:41:03
Thanks topshelf for putting that into english for everyone, and you're right ottawa wins every trade proposal rambo makes by a landslide.

08 Jul 2018 07:57:53
Rambo, you’re an idiot. If Matthews and marner want good players to play with, they sign with Toronto and get each other, Tavares, Nylander, marleau, Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner etc to play with lol

If you think either of them leave the leafs right now to go to the islanders you’re dumber than I thought.

Secondly you say no way Karlsson gets traded unless Sergachev AND Point are coming back?! I take that bet all day long. You will be dead wrong again like always

And I love “Sens have lost too many trades lately, they can’t lose this one too! ” It’s the same owner and same GM that made the rest of the trades haha why would you expect different?!

08 Jul 2018 14:05:24
RYAN SUCKS. GET OVER IT. HE MAKES THE TRADE VALUE DROP IMMENSELY.

You know why the TB/ OTT deal didn’t happen some nights ago? Because your stupid ownerr wanted to include RYan too and NOBODYYYYY wants his LUDRICIS comtract.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. Get over it man. You aren't getting Point, Johnson, Sergachev and a top 10 pick for EK and Pageau, as Ryan basically neglects White.

08 Jul 2018 15:31:08
Biased jim. yeah because they will totally want to take a massive pay cut to stay in toronto lmfao gtfoh. after signing tavares at 11 mil per season how do you expect them to even have to cap room to sign all the other 3? Nylanader is going to get around 7 million marner around 9 million and Matthew's around 11 million. how do you want them to pay the rest of the team? In the form of a case of beer? Lmfao if they get a great offer they will leave like tavares did.

Top shelf crappers. use your head. Ryan is top 6. puts up identical numbers to palat. only difference is 2.25 million overpayment. yet Ryan sucks and palat don't right? Go sell that garbage to someone who will actually buy it. I actually follow hockey and don't buy in to the trashy comments like that. I like most real hockey fans know exactly what Ryan is capable of and does for our team.

08 Jul 2018 15:51:24
There’s a better chance of Karlsson being waived by the sens for Extra cap room and being claimed by CSKA Moscow then the sens getting Point and Sergachev in the same deal.

Also I’m willing to bet my legs and arms that Mathews and Marner don’t sign an offer sheet.

08 Jul 2018 16:52:01
Unless the leafs move Marleau kadri brown rielly and Gardiner before they need to sign those 2 I'd gladly take a bet on that vbbvbb it's easy money.

Sens won't take any less than both those guys plus a 1st. they aren't taking another loss so get over it and stop overvaluing other teams players and undervaluing sens players.

08 Jul 2018 16:58:55
If you are proven wrong again Rambo, will you please leave this site? You just look to start sh*t every day.

08 Jul 2018 17:26:46
As shown on my other post penguins in 2014 signed 5 players- Crosby, Malkin, Neal, letang and fleury for 58.5 of the salary cap

Leafs could pay Nylander 6.5, matthews 11.25 ans marner 8.5 and that would mean they’re using 62% of their cap on 7 players - Tavares, Matthews, marner, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly and Andersen.
That’s how lol.

08 Jul 2018 17:36:36
I agree with leafs17, please just take a hike rambo. you're annoying to even senators fans, your insight is always a joke. saying things like "what bobby ryan brings to our team" and speaking of his capabilities or whatever, the guy is a cap dump. with 29 million dollars still left on his deal, he could be the biggest cap dump in the league. saying that you "actually follow hockey" could be debated by many on here, as you are inaccurate with mostly everything you say. your knowledge of the NHL and hockey in general is weak and you probably can't tell the difference between your ass and your face. and yet, we have to put up with your ignorance everyday.

08 Jul 2018 19:06:36
I won’t say another word on the Karlsson thing till he’s traded, but if Ottawa get ”atleast Point, Sergachev and a 1st” I will make a post saying Rambo was right and Dorian is a Jedi.

If they get what is actually realistic (a young roster player, prospect and 1st) then Rambo should admit he’s completely clueless and knock off the Sens boas BS.

08 Jul 2018 22:30:22
Ramo, take a hike. Kadri, Rielly, Brown are all on team friendly contracts. Its not going to happen.

09 Jul 2018 03:22:59
Leafs I ain't starting anything. the reason I joined this site is because I like reading rumors on my team but when I found this site all I seen was tracy 1 sided rumors that were more of a laugh than believable. 1 guys posts were respectable and even he don't post anymore so I needed to provide a voice for real hockey fans who wanted to see respectable rumors rather than the trash posted here.

And as for you facelift please don't mistake yourself for a Sens fan because that's a joke in itself. if you were you wouldn't be arguing with common sense. as for your Bobby Ryan comment, should we all band together and call the executives of NHL. com and tell them to fix their stats categories? Seeing as how you all love to argue how ryan ain't worth nothing shouldn't his stats reflect that at least? Because for someone ot worth anything his stats certainly don't reflect that in any way. teams want point. He provides points. Any arguments are POINTLESS and wrong!

07 Jul 2018 00:20:33
Three way trade

Ottawa trades: Erik Karlsson, 3rd round pick

Tampa Bay trades: Mikhail Sergachev, Tyler Johnson, Ryan Callahan, 2nd round pick, Taylor Raddysh

NYR trades: 6th round pick




Ottawa gets: Mikhail Sergachev, Tyler Johnson, Taylor Raddysh

Tampa Bay gets: Erik Karlsson

NYR gets: Ryan Callahan, 2nd round pick (TB), 3rd round pick (OTT)

07 Jul 2018 02:07:53
I think that's pretty fair/ realistic. Will have to wait and see.

07 Jul 2018 02:27:21
Point instead of radish makes more sense.

07 Jul 2018 03:37:09
This is very realistic in my opinion. I had to check to make sure you weren't posting a trade that actually happened.

07 Jul 2018 05:17:33
Not getting Sergachev AND Point Rambo lol.

07 Jul 2018 09:02:29
IF Yzerman includes Sergachev in a deal, don't make the mistake to think that he'd add a lot if anything.

07 Jul 2018 10:32:03
Triplets I think this is pretty close to what that trade was going to be. I had heard something like Sergachev, prospect (likely Raddysh), 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, Callahan and maybe Killorn all leaving Tampa in this deal.

08 Jul 2018 00:10:52
Karlsson is the one of or "The Best" defencemen in the world Do you really think any player is better than in on tampa? No, the only close player is Stamkos or kuch. Karlsson can easily take sergachev (top 2) max potential. Yea that's a good player but only 1/ 3 as good as Karlsson, Radish yes easily get him aswell, ( point maybe instead of him if Ottawa was trying to shift leverage, you guys keep saying Ottawa has none but you do know that Tampa Bay's Main Expiring Core Stamer and the others are not going to bethere forever and Toronto adding the addition of JT Well that just makes Yzermen want to make his team better by adding the best defencemen in the world to him team sure he will give up a couple of good prospects but Tampa has the best prospects in the NHL so they can afford to loose some for EK, Especially If They WANT TO KNOCK OFF THE LEAFS, Because there is No Chance Of Doing So WithOut EK65.

06 Jul 2018 04:12:59
If Tampa is trying to acquire Karlsson and keep Core:

TBL:5th round pick
NYR:Ryan Callahan (5.8Mx2)+2nd round pick

TBL:4th round pick
CBJ:Dan Girardi (3Mx1)+6th round pick

TBL:6th round pick
MIN:Brayden Coburn (3.7Mx1)+7th round pick

TBL:2nd round pick+3rd round pick
CAR:Tyler Johnson (5Mx6)

They free up 17.5M assuming they all waive their NTC

Sign and Trade

TBL:Karlsson (11Mx7)
OTT:Foote, Raddysh, Katchouk,2020 1st round pick,2021 2nd round pick

Is this enough for a signed Karlsson?

Next Years Lineup:

Miller-Stamkos-Kucherov
Palat-Point-Gourde
Killorn-Cirelli-Joseph
Conacher-Paquette-Andreoff

Hedman-Karlsson
McDonagh-Stralman
Sergachev-Dotchin

Vasilevskiy
Domingue.

06 Jul 2018 05:16:21
Why would Tampa do a sign and trade and not get 8 years.

06 Jul 2018 05:59:55
Im with Kobalis seems a little too much for giving up their future.. ottawa would need to take back a roster player with a reasonable salary

06 Jul 2018 10:51:06
I agreed on the 8 years and added my own input lol sounded dumb for a sec

06 Jul 2018 13:52:03
Kucherov couldn’t resign ( assuming he won’t take less then Karlsson ) after resigning McDonagh it kinda took away to add a star long term. My guess is he’ll just be a rental.

06 Jul 2018 14:26:04
Not even close for Karlsson. point sergachev and a 1st is a good starting point.

06 Jul 2018 15:19:24
Talks last night was kucherov could be traded elsewhere to make room for Karlsson and also recoup assets used to acquire Karlsson. As a leaf fan, I would be happy to see Tampa get Karlsson if it means lose kucherov. Karlsson is amazing, but with Hedman, McD, stralman and Sergachev, their blueline is already great. If they lose Kuch upfront, I’m much happier facing them. Without Kuch, If stamkos ever gets hurt or sick again, they’re so thin up front. Looking like 2 powerhouses in the Atlantic for years, I’d rather our crazy good forwards and weaker D face a great D core and weak forwards than a team with multiple game breakers up front and on the back end.

06 Jul 2018 15:26:32
Ottawa better insist that Sergachev be in the deal.

06 Jul 2018 15:32:08
On a lot of teams Karlsson can immediately make them twice as good. I don’t think that’s the case with Tampa. If he wants to be there, they should definitely try to make it work, but by the time they lose other good players, and pay assets to dump contracts, I honestly don’t know how much better they are overall. But interesting for sure. Especially if this happens, Karlssons wife will need to re-do a restraining order for the state of Florida because after sending Hoffman 1500miles away, they will be a cpl hours apart again and playing head to head opening night lol.

06 Jul 2018 16:09:40
@Unbiased Jim the idea seems ridiculous Stamkos + Kuch is a ridiculous line I’d rather keep kuch and run with the lineup they have. There team would look very similar to Nashville with Karlsson in- Kuch out.

06 Jul 2018 17:41:01
If they lose kuch just to get karlson they are idiots. I'd sooner trade stamkos then kucherov.

06 Jul 2018 18:04:54
@Habby, agreed. Stacking D is great if you can do it. But look at teams with what’s looked at as the deepest D cores in the league for the last 3-4 years (Calgary, Carolina, Anaheim, Nashville) and what they have accomplished. Only Nashville has had any success to speak of. As where teams with decent-good D cores but multiple game breakers up front (penguins, capitals, bruins, Tampa) have had far more success going deeper or even winning cups.

06 Jul 2018 19:45:15
A team only really need 2-3 really solid defensemen with 3 being okay. They’ll handle all the minutes, it’s at forward is where you need the fire power to keep pressuring and getting those scoring opportunities to win a cup imo need the depth up front for sure.

06 Jul 2018 20:08:24
Yeah if they were lacking on d I could almost see it but they should be ok I would think.

06 Jul 2018 20:10:23
100 point scorers don't exactly grow on trees these days lol.

06 Jul 2018 23:38:05
Only thing that makes sense to me is that Tampa has been the favourite in the division for a while. When leafs added Tavares and all the talk was that teams would have to put their top D on either Matthews or Tavares leaving the other one with an easy night.

Maybe this is yzermans way of responding. Then they can have Karlsson and hedman play together and dominate against the majority of teams and then separate them to match up against Tavares/ Matthews, Baxkstrom/ Kuznetsov and Crosby/ Malkin etc.

25 Jun 2018 13:27:01
WPG: Petan
NYR: 2nd Round Pick 2019

25 Jun 2018 18:57:35
Great for Winnipeg but a bit too much. I believe he will be part of a package that could include Myers, Perreault, Kulikov, Mason, Copp and even Little to get a top end player or a young A prospect.

25 Jun 2018 09:00:40
If the Stars get Tavares, they can afford to move Seguin.

CBJ: Panarin (and a draft pick or two if needed)
DAL: Seguin

Move Dubinsky's terrible contract to NYR and help their rebuild

CBJ: Brandon Dubinsky's contract, Sonny Milano, 2019 2nd
NYR: Ryan Spooner

Detroit needs a goalie prospect

Foligno - Seguin - Atkinson
Spooner - Dubois - Bjorkstrand
Jenner - Wennberg - Anderson
Calvert - Sedlak - UFA winger like Chiasson

Werenski - Jones
Nutivaara - Murray.

23 Jun 2018 07:20:50
Since Calgary has no second round picks

To CGY
• 2nd Round Pick
To NYR
• rights to Adam Fox

To CGY
• 2nd Round Pick
To ARI
• (G) Jon Gillies
• 7th Round Pick

22 Jun 2018 01:45:28
CLB: Murray
WPG: Petan, 5th Round Pick 2018 (BOS)

Then

WPG: Kulikov, Armia
NYR: Howden

19 Jun 2018 21:06:47
cgy:brodie stone mangiapane
tor: nylander, hyman

mon:gallagher
cgy: ferland bennet

cgy:gillies fox 4th
nyr: bostons 1st.

19 Jun 2018 22:47:23
If you combined all the peices in all 3 trades from Calgary and offered it for Nylander the leafs would still not consider.

19 Jun 2018 22:58:13
Lol no from Toronto. Brodie and some throw aways for Nylander AND Hyman? Get real lol.

20 Jun 2018 04:09:11
@Franchise billy isn’t that term considered unacceptable now days? Regardless you’re a biased flames fan who obviously has no input to create an argument against my statement so I’ll teach you what hockey is you have a lot to learn.

First of all Nylander is an Elite 20 year old RW who is exactly what the flames need. He’s very likely 70-80 point player consitently in his prime

What I said was clearly an exaggeration but I’ll break down this deal

Nylander

For

Bodie, Fox, Stone, Mangiapane, Ferland, Bennet, Gilles and a 4th.

Quality>Quanity

Player Toronto would want- Bodie, Fox and Bennet

The rest while may be valuable to the flames organization contribute absolutely nothing for the leafs.

Fox is probably going to test UFA like Kevin Hayes, Jimmy Hayes and other college players that chose that route.

Bennet is a player I personally love I think he’ll develop into a Derrick Brassard type but his value is at an all time low

Bodie is coming off a terrible season and his value is also at an all time low IMO I believe he’ll fall off the radar much like Jack Johnson. Still a decent piece tho.

While the value may be there and possibly even be in Toronto’s favour but leafs do not take it.

20 Jun 2018 05:11:42
Pretty well put by vbb actually. You don’t trade a guy like Nylander for spare parts. You trade him for an equal value player, hopefully in the same age bracket (20-24) in a more needed position. A hurricanes-leafs deal could be done. Something around Nylander for hanifin maybe because canes need scoring and have lots of young D and leafs need D with an abundance of wingers. But to trade a guy with his skill and potential for that? And have Hyman in there too? He’s a really good penalty killer who never takes a shift off, put up 40 pts (playing with Matthews obviously helps that) and is signed for 2.25 mill for 4 years. That’s a valuable piece too.

20 Jun 2018 06:35:49
Ya but Nylander > Brodie, Fox & Bennett? c'mon there's a lot of quality there. Young D Prospect, Top 4 Dman, a young former 4th overall pick. don't tell me Toronto doesn't take that.

20 Jun 2018 11:28:53
Yeahhhhhhhh Torornot doesnt.

We spent a lot of time building up this foundation. We aren't trading Nylander for ‘pieces’ were trading him for ‘one solid piece’: (dman; hamilton, hanifin, etc), whild adding a bit.

20 Jun 2018 15:38:49
Agreed with top shelf would you trade Guadreau for Gardiner, Kadri and Dermotte? That’s also a way better package then the 3 you offered.

20 Jun 2018 15:57:04
@franchisebilly, yeah, I’m telling you leafs wouldn’t take that for nylander. But the trade also has hyman going. Hyman is a better player than Bennet currently, still young and signed cheap. Bennett has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it, I’m not denying that. But today, you’re a better team with hyman on the ice than Bennett. Call them even for simplification. That leaves Brodie and fox for nylander?! No thanks. Willy goes for a big upgrade on D, which Brodie just isn’t. He’s a good Dman. We have 3 good Dmen (Gardiner, Rielly, zaitsev) and a young guy who might be really good in Dermott.

20 Jun 2018 23:46:13
I see your points. A more fair trade would be Hamilton for Nylander but comparing Gardiner to Brodie and Gaudreau to Nylander is kinda off. i'm just saying those are 3 really good pieces, i'm sure that package wouldn't be that bad of a return

19 Jun 2018 03:18:31
Trade1:

CBJ: Sonny Milano, Brandon Dubinsky (cap dump), 2019 1st round pick

NYR: Kevin Hayes, 2018 5th round pick

Dubinsky has an NTC but if there was a team he'd waive it for it would be the Rangers. Sonny Milano is on the 4th line in Columbus but should grow into a top-6 winger with enough ice time. He's shown he is capable when given the chance here with 14-8-22 in 55 games. Kevin Hayes fills in the 3rd line centre spot really well for the Jackets and should be an affordable option. Jackets may need to sweeten this slightly but I'm curious to think what Rangers fans think. Spooner can also be the piece here but then Jackets would be overpaying a little imo.

Trade 2:

CBJ: Joonas Korpisalo

DET: 2019 2nd round pick, 2018 4th round pick

Detroit needs a goalie of the future. Korpisalo is behind Bob and Columbus has Elvis Merzlikins poised to arrive in the 19/ 20 season. Jackets get to replenish some lost picks.

Panarin - Dubois - Atkinson

Jenner - Wennberg - Anderson

Foligno - Hayes - Bjorkstrand

Calvert - Sedlak - UFA (ex: Chiasson)

Werenski - Jones

Nutivaara - Murray

Cole - Savard

Bobrovsky

UFA (ex: Bernier)

19 Jun 2018 08:21:17
Overpayment for Hayes, no? He's not that big of a deal.

19 Jun 2018 12:22:46
Dubinsky's contract is pretty bad lol.

16 Jun 2018 18:56:02
NYR: 26th Overall Pick 2018 (BOS)
WPG: Petan, Armia

16 Jun 2018 20:06:32
Not worth a 26th Overall pick lol more like a 2nd for both

16 Jun 2018 21:14:34
You could get Petan for that, but you wouldn't get Armia as well.

16 Jun 2018 23:45:06
This sounds very fair but I can't see Chevy moving Armia for that.

17 Jun 2018 08:06:12
You won't get both guys for that.

11 Jun 2018 11:34:38
Travis Hamonic (RD - 3.8 Million x 3 Years) + Sam Bennett (C - 1.8 Million x 1 Year) + Rasmus Andersson (RD - 755K x 2 Years) + 2018 3rd Round Draft Selection to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Kasperi Kapanen (RW - 925K X 1 Year) + Jake Gardiner (LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year) + 2018 1st Round Draft Selection (#25 Overall)

Calgary then flips Gardiner.

Jake Gardiner (LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year; Extension - 5.0 Million x 5 Years) + Curtis Lazar (C - 950K x 1 Year) to the New York Rangers in exchange for Vladislav Namestnikov (C - RFA; Extension - 3.75 Million x 3 Years) + Jimmy Vesey (RW - RFA; Extension - 2.5 Million x 3 Years) + 2018 3rd Round Draft Selection.

Basically.
Hamonic + Bennett + Andersson + Lazar + 3rd for Kapanen + Namestnikov + Vesey + 1st + 3rd

Calgary acquires three NHL ready RW’s, a position that they need to shore up drastically this year. They trade from a position of wealth (D; Giordano, Hamilton, Brodie, Kylington, Valimaki, Kulak. ) to shore up. The Hamonic experiment was less than a success in Calgary, and he might be the easiest pf Calgarys big four dmen to trade, apart from Brodie, who’d garner a lesser return. In addition to Hamonic, they deal away Bennett who needs a new scenery ASAP, Andersson, who is basically a 1for1 for Kapanen, where both teams upgrade positions of need, Lazar, who is right now a nothing, and a 3rd, which they make back from NY. They also relinquish their need for a 1st, and can draft a player in the first round as accordingly.
And btw, Calgary needs to make something happen this summer. Last season was a letdown and change is needed. One complication is the fact that Hamonic probably won’t be traded ASAP, however, it is possible.

Toronto acquires two RD, one of which is a shutdown man who can play with Rielly, despite coming off a down year, and the other is young and can compliment Dermott rather well. They trade away their second best dman, but upgrade due to the fact that they don’t need four offensive minded dman on the current roster, and deal away a LD, wherein Dermott and Rielly can eat up more minutes. They also trade away Kapanen, but with Brown, Nylander, Marner, etc on the wing, Kapanen is excess. It would be nice to trade Brown instead of Kapanen, but I think Kapanen will be the thing that makes the deal happen. Toronto also gets a 3C for next season, one with high potential that was simply never realized. can become a 30-35 point guy as a hometown kid.

NY acquires a dman that they badly need in exchange for two players who struggled last year, but both of which are solid middle 6/ top 6 wingers. Vladdy could be a star alongside Gaudreau/ Monahan, as he was with Stamkos/ Kucherov, he just struggled immensely in NY due to a lack of talent. Vesey is a 30-35 point utility guy, who could be useful in CGY, NY gets their dman, a guy from the USA who probably would love to play in MSG. he's a high risk high reward guy, but could prove valuable on an NY team with no firepower on the backend.

11 Jun 2018 14:41:33
That is way too much to read, but quickly looking it over, NYR told their fans when they traded Nash, McDonough and miller that they’re going to rebuild and get younger. Now you have them taking on a Dman in Gardiner in his late 20s and losing skilled young forwards. After that I kinda stopped reading. Also a top 4 RHD like Hamonic could help the leafs, but losing a LHD from our top 4 just switches the problem for L to R without really improving. And I’m as hopeful for dermott as anyone, but he’s played a handful of NHL games and I’ve watched him all playoffs long for the marlies (5 games live) and he has looked like the best player on either team sometimes, and looked very average (like a 21 year old D should) at others times. The fact that fans are just assuming he’s going to easily replace Jake gardiners 25 min and 50 pts is insane.

11 Jun 2018 22:35:05
Good points Jim. Dermott has shown a lot of promise and potential but he's no sure thing yet. Lots of d-men look good in their first stint and then fail to really pan out (a la Luke Schenn) .

12 Jun 2018 06:45:13
Rangers won’t trade Vesey.

09 Jun 2018 01:16:27
It's fun to read the many off the wall trade rumors and suggestions fans come up with, so I have one to post.

To Montreal: Nazim Kadri (to fill the Habs need at center) and Jake Gardner (to play the left side with Shea Weber.

To Toronto: 3rd overall pick, 35th, 38th, 48th, 61st picks (or a combination of any 3 of the 2nd round picks).

To Edmonton: The 3rd overall ((Oilers pick Zadina to play with McDavid and 2 of Leafs 4 second round picks.

To Toronto: The 10th overall pick and RNH (to fill the vacancy left by Kadri).

Leafs are left without Kadri and Gardner.
Leafs are left with RNH, 10th, 25th, and 3 of the 2nd round picks (35th, 38th, 48th, 52nd, 61st).

With the 10th pick Leafs take whoever is still available between Kotkaniemi, Hayton, Dobson, ?
With the 25th pick Leafs take ?. Or trade down with the Islanders or Rangers for 2 more 2nd round picks.
Leafs still have 3 - 5 second round picks two of which are the 35th & 38th to refill the pipeline depleted by Nylander, Dermot, Kapanen, Dermot and others moving up to the NHL roster. To

Have fun processing that one Leaf fans

09 Jun 2018 03:44:33
I don’t care about value. i am not giving Naz to MTL.

09 Jun 2018 09:49:04
You're a huge Leafs fan, huh? Barely recognizeable.

09 Jun 2018 12:26:38
That's ok top shelf cause we don't want him.

09 Jun 2018 12:29:47
we are not giving you the 3OVA dream on.

09 Jun 2018 14:07:10
I’d do the habs trade in a heartbeat from a value perspective but it almost does nothing for the leafs.

04 Jun 2018 17:22:29
Habs Trade : Pacioretty and second 2019

Detroit trade : Nyquist and 6xt overall pick


Habs trade: 6xt overall pick

Rangers trade : 9th pick and a second

Habs draft : Zadina and Kotkaniemi

Habs sign Stastny

Nyquist - Stastny - Zadina
Galchenyuk - Drouin - Gallagher
Byron - Kotkaniemi - Lekhonen
Shaw - Danault - Scherbak

04 Jun 2018 17:42:45
just stop.

04 Jun 2018 17:49:26
yeah a rebuild team doesn't waste a 6oa on 1 year of patches along with Myquist a lw. No good.

04 Jun 2018 21:23:45
Habs going to prob have to choose between Kotkaniemi (needs) or Zadina (talent) because teams aren't going to give up their picks.

05 Jun 2018 03:02:39
Habs fans are going to be very disappointed at Patches actual value.

05 Jun 2018 18:50:44
no we won't look what rick nash got pacioretty has way way more value than him.

06 Jun 2018 02:25:44
Habs have a true center in Galchenyuk, not Drouin. If you have patience to let Drouin learn do the same for Galy.

06 Jun 2018 03:45:14
Let's stop say Drouin is a centermen he isn't, but Galchenyuk is I think it's time Montreal makes him thier full time guy and move Drouin back to his normal spot wing.

30 May 2018 04:45:22
EDM trade: 10th overall, Lucic, Caggiula

NYR trade: Kreider, 2nd round pick

Ny goes full rebuild

30 May 2018 22:03:16
How do they go full rebuild by taking on 5 years of Lucic?

30 May 2018 04:38:51
NYR trade: zuccarello

DAL trades: honka, spezza, 3rd round pick

What do you guys think?

31 May 2018 01:55:46
I do like this trade Honka might not be AS desirable as a target tho compared to other teams because of Shattenkurk. Honka is definitely a great piece tho.

29 May 2018 18:14:04
WPG: Petan, 2nd Round Pick 2018
NYR: 1st Round Pick 2018 (BOS)

Jets move up into the first round. Rangers move down since they have three first round picks and get a young prospect that needs ice time.

29 May 2018 20:02:19
That is a fair trade. I would hate to see Petan get traded because he hasn't found a place with the Jets.

27 May 2018 08:40:07
to Edmonton
Staal

to NYR
Russell
Pakarinen.

 
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