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20 Oct 2018 21:10:18
Deal now:
To Carolina:
Nylander, Durzi, Marincin, Neilson
To Leafs:
Pesce, Foegele, Zykov

In January (for cap space and for defence improvement)
To NYI:
2019 1st, Zaitsev, Leivo
To Leafs:
Pulock, possible pick/prospect depending on Pulock's play, Zaitsev's play, and Leivo's play up to that point

Deadline deal
To Columbus:
Gardiner (extension from Columbus required), condtional 2020 1st (becomes 2nd, 2021 3rd if Panarin doesn't re-sign), Brown, 2019 4th
To Leafs:
Panarin (he will be cheaper to get by this point)

Lines:
Marleau/Matthews/Panarin
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Foegele/Kadri/Kapanen
Johnsson/Lindholm/Zykov
*Ennis, Gauthier
Reilly/Pulock
Dermott/Pesce
Hainsey/Ozhiganov
*Holl
Anderson
Sparks

Cmon how could you not love that team?
Scratched players all under $700 thousand

Solid 4th line and each player under 1mill

Third line of hard workers that can score and take on other teams top lines

And the other two are nothing special, just so we can throw a team together 😂

People seemed to like this on the leafs rumours site, so I wanted to branch out a bit and get more opinions

21 Oct 2018 01:40:08
I’d make all of those trades from a leafs POV.

21 Oct 2018 08:41:03
So if VB says he'd do all those trades from a Leafs POV, this prolly tells you all you need to know about whether those trades are fair.

21 Oct 2018 14:04:19
coming from the guy who thinks Stamkos>Mathews and Crosby—>Fantasy league.

21 Oct 2018 22:45:10
But Stamkos IS better than Mathews 🤔

Mathews: 69, 63 point seasons
Stamkos: 46, 95, 91, 97, 57, 40, 72, 64, 20, 86,
Mathews was injured 20 games season #2 and Stamkos was injured half or so of season #5, 6, 9.
Mathews 1 - 40 goal season
Stamkos 4 - 40+ goal season, 1 is 51 and 1 is 60.
Not sure how you argue those numbers.

22 Oct 2018 03:01:01
Ok but Matthews also missed about a quarter of the season last year, he would’ve hit 70 for sure and probably 75, maybe even 80.

22 Oct 2018 04:05:43
You can’t argue those numbers. Stamkos has been a stud for years and leaf fans can only hope Matthews has a career as good as Stamkos.

22 Oct 2018 09:38:06
"coming from the guy who thinks Stamkos>Mathews and Crosby—>Fantasy league. "
Well #1 I literally never said anything about that since that never was a topic and #2 as pointed out above by others, Stamkos has had an impressive career. This season so far, Matthews is the better player, no doubt.

22 Oct 2018 17:31:09
It’s funny how my posts are always used for arguing about stuff not related to it.

16 Oct 2018 23:13:15
to NYI
Nylander

to Toronto
Pulock
2nd.

24 Sep 2018 20:03:29
Calgary: Bennett

Islanders: Ho-Sang.

24 Sep 2018 21:59:51
Not terrible. Bennett is a safer player. He will play in the NHL in some capacity for sure. Whether he puts it together and starts scoring like he should, or be a more specialized penalty killer bottom 6. HoSang on the other hand is a riskier pick. Kinda reminds me of rob Schremp. All the skill in the world but not the work ethic or attitude to succeed maybe. However if you trade a bottom 6 guy for HoSang and he grows up, could be a steal.

25 Sep 2018 01:30:45
Interesting. I think NYI says yes. And Calgary decides if Jankowski can be a solid third line center and if Ho/ Sang would for with Tkuchuk and Backlund or with Jankowski.
I think his speed and skill with Tkuchuk and Backlund could be pretty good. Then Frolik on a third line with Jamkowski. Solid third. Johny Mono Lindholm as a top line. Interesting.

25 Sep 2018 15:32:42
I like the deal, gives both players a change of scenery and maybe will be good for both players, But I think NYI would want more as I feel the new management looks highly on Ho Sang and want to give him a chance to prove himself.

25 Sep 2018 16:23:39
Pkane well ho sang was just recently cut by islanders so I don’t quite think they are too high on him yet, but with saying that I also read he did have a good camp. But Bennett like said before is a sure lock to play top 6 for an nhl team so while ho sang might have more offensive potential, Bennett is atleat nhl caliber now so I don’t think islanders would want more.

25 Sep 2018 18:39:31
There’s the story of Lou with Kadri in Toronto that could apply. He was having off ice issues and had been suspended by his own management and apparently Lou had a Dinner with Naz and his dad. Kinda laid everything out, saying it’s sink or swim time, and it’s last shot to grow up and be a part of the core. He did and next off season was rewarded with the 6 year deal that he has outproduced each year. So maybe Lou needs to do a similar type thing with HoSang before trading him for pennies on the dollar, because we would not have got a ton for Kadri at that point and if the trade was the wake up call he needed and he was scoring 30+ goals for another team while we got very little back, it would sting.

12 Sep 2018 23:47:33
At the June 2019 Draft.

WPG: Trouba
NYI: Dobson, 1st Round Pick 2019

13 Sep 2018 03:38:36
So no from islanders. Lol.

13 Sep 2018 05:24:20
Another trade that doesn't help a contending team like the Jets at all. It would need to be a roster defenseman and/ or Dobson or the pick depending on the roster player. The Jets can't afford to give away a top pairing defenseman for a player who may never be as good and a pick.

Every one here will whine about Dobson's draft position, but a 12thOA pick isn't a lock to turn into a top pairing defenseman, just look at Nurse.

13 Sep 2018 15:45:52
This could look good for the Jets at the trade deadline if they can't resign Trouba and Dobson continues to develop his game. I still believe that there would be over 1/ 2 the teams in the NHL that would make the Jets a serious trade package for Trouba, and he could be worth more than this offer.

13 Sep 2018 21:25:35
I still don’t understand how and why you guys believe Trouba is worth so much.

13 Sep 2018 21:37:43
@McJesus, young, top pairing RHD is the hardest thing to find in the NHL along with 1C. That's why Trouba would be expensive to acquire.

07 Sep 2018 21:54:29
Mtl) Patch
Nyi) Eberle or Ho-Sang

08 Sep 2018 17:43:12
honestly. this is one of the better ones I've seen.

08 Sep 2018 18:22:23
I’d say ho-sang makes more sense age and salary wise. And getting that kinda young potential for patches would be a good idea, I just don’t know if they want the only piece coming back for a good player having a questionable attitude and work ethic. If he doesn’t get along with coaches or teammates right of the hop, that’s a disaster.

08 Sep 2018 20:44:14
If it’s ho sang islanders add more considering he hasn’t proved a thing and isle are getting a proven scorer.

03 Sep 2018 22:12:08
Jackets trade: Panarin, Murray

Islanders trade: Lee, Pulock

What do you guys think?

04 Sep 2018 02:10:57
Terrible.

04 Sep 2018 03:56:14
Wtf is your problem even posting this.

04 Sep 2018 03:56:28
Lol sorry was rude there. This is just bad.

04 Sep 2018 14:54:58
thats pretty close I like it, especially the part where lee+pulock wouldn't even get you panarin much less adding murray.

04 Sep 2018 21:20:43
columbus downgrades in both positions, although you already knew that didn't you.

05 Sep 2018 04:36:22
Actually they don't downgrade on defence pulock is a way better piece then murray.

10 Aug 2018 21:15:55
Toronto: Josh Leivo

NYI: Micheal Del Colle

Toronto- gives Leivo a new chance considering there is no use for him in their organization. Del Colle could Battle Timoshov/Bracco for a top 6 spot on the Marlies. He has lots of talent but his draft position was to high.

Islanders- get a proven depth forward who can slot in on the third line or be a top line player in the AHL. He's really a player you can plug into any situation. Could be a full time NHLer with the right opportunity.

10 Aug 2018 21:21:58
I think if Lou believed in him enough to trade a former top 5 pick for him, he would have forced Babcock a little harder to get him in some games. This one I would do from leafs perspective for sure because dal Colle is still young enough. But ideally, we get a pick, free up a roster spot and use both at the deadline if there’s a need to address.

10 Aug 2018 21:43:32
I don’t think the top 5 pick tital holds much value if he’s not considered a bust I’m not sure what is. I doubt he could bring back more then what Edmonton got for Yakapov. I just want to see leivo get a chance in a new organization I don’t care what they get.

11 Aug 2018 01:22:46
Del colle has really looked bad hey. I wonder what the problem is with him.

11 Aug 2018 02:10:44
I know the top 5 doesn’t hold much anymore. Just don’t see them giving him up for Leivo. New management so they aren’t connected to that pick like Snow was, but he still just turned 22 and some of those power forwards take a bit of time. Don’t see them moving him for a guy that Lou just had for the last 3 years and he never made that team.

I want to see Leivo get a chance somewhere too tho.

11 Aug 2018 04:53:19
I think this year could still be a make or break year for him though. He was never the fastest skater but wasn't by no means slow. his stick handeling and overall puck skills were great when he was in junior I thought for sure he'd be a full time nhl forward by now.

11 Aug 2018 05:29:41
It looks like Del Colle is a career AHL/ Euro player but if he has the passion you never know.

11 Aug 2018 05:38:08
Dal Colles main problem is skating. Watching him play it seems he's carrying cement in his skates.

05 Aug 2018 00:06:56
New York Islanders:
Brock Nelson+David Quenneville

Minnesota Wild:
Jonas Brodin+5th pick (2019)

With Boychuk aging, Islanders could use defensive help. Minnesota could use some extra scoring and Nelson's contract isn't as much a burden.

05 Aug 2018 17:17:31
And Minnesota does this why?

28 Jul 2018 05:19:40
Islanders: Ryan Pulock, 2nd 2019, 3rd 2019

Montreal: Pacioretty.

29 Jul 2018 15:45:08
It's really not bad. I think the habs would prefer a lhd though.

30 Jul 2018 00:51:57
Bad for NYI.

30 Jul 2018 13:51:10
I'd do it for pulock tbh.

30 Jul 2018 13:52:04
Good for both sides imo. i'm a mlt fan that's really like Patches although I think him being stranded for guy younger defensemen wouldn't be a bad thing.

23 Jul 2018 23:31:15
WPG: Trouba
NYI: Bellows, Dobson

24 Jul 2018 04:19:13
Good players, but the Jets would need a roster player back. They can't take an all futures trade for Trouba.

24 Jul 2018 05:09:54
Agree jets are in win now mode.

24 Jul 2018 05:53:59
No from NYI. Those will be core players in the next few years for the islanders.

24 Jul 2018 12:46:52
No from both. Islanders need those guys to build a new core around Barzal instead of one year of Trouba before another contract fight, and jets need players to win now.

24 Jul 2018 13:46:41
As much as I would like to say no to this trade, if Poolman can step up to be a regular on the Jets roster I would make this trade. The Jets would be getting 2 A prospects and rid themselves of a headache in Troubas agent. I'm not sure NYI would want to give up 2 key pieces of their future.

24 Jul 2018 15:12:12
Bellows is overrated imo he had a great world juniors but aside from that he’s been underwhelming.

11 Jul 2018 07:05:29
Islanders trade: Lee, pulock, ho sang, 2nd round pick 2019

Blue jackets trade: Panarin, Murray

What do you guys think about this?

11 Jul 2018 12:27:40
that package might get you panarin.

08 Jul 2018 16:48:53
Montreal receive: Callahan, 2020 2nd
Tampa bay receive: 2019 6th

Montreal receive: Beauvillier, Ho-Sang, 2nd 2019
Islanders receive: Pacioretty, Shaw (25% retained), 4th 2020

Montreal receive: 3rd 2019
Florida receive: Callahan (50% retained)

Domi Danualt Gallagher
Drouin Beauvillier Hudon
Lehkonen Peca Scherbak
Byron Plek Ho-Sang.

09 Jul 2018 03:24:13
Decent trade buds.

07 Jul 2018 18:19:55
Ok so Tampa and Ottawa are close to a deal but Tampa want a 3rd or maybe even 4th team involved to dump some cap so.

Ott : sergachev, point, Johnson, nyi 1st

Tbl : Karlsson, white, ott 3rd, nyr 6th

Nyi : palat, Ryan, pageau, tbl 2nd

Nyr : Callahan, tbl 3rd

Rangers get a fan favorite back plus upgrade their pick for next to nothing

Islanders get 2 top 6 guys with scoring touch to fill the void left by tavares plus a serviceable 3rd line center by downgrading their 1st to a 2nd

Ottawa gets a 1st back plus 2 promising young talents bu taking on Johnson's cap to replace Ryan's

Tampa dumps a bunch of cap but upgrades a late 3rd to what will prob be an early 3rd plus they get a 6th a high end prospect who will fit nicely with them and oh yeah the best defenceman in the world.

Killorn stamkos kucherov
Gourd miller cirelli

Hedman Karlsson
Mcdonagh Girardi

Deadly at both ends.

07 Jul 2018 19:07:28
Islander and rangers get hose very bad.

07 Jul 2018 19:29:22
Aiii this makes no sense so lemme break it down:

TB Acquires: Karlsson, White, 3rd, 6th
TB Trades: Serg, Point, Johnson, Palat, Callahan, 2nd, 3rd

OTT Acquires: Sergachev, Point, Johnson, 1st
OTT Trades: Karlsson, White, Ryan, Pageau, 3rd

NYI Acquires: Palat, Ryan, Pageau, 2nd
NYI Trades: 1st

NYR Trades: 6th
NYR Acquires: Callahan, 3td

Okay. putting into perspective, ottawa, as per usual with rambo propsosals, fleeces everyone. You get potentially a top5 pick, serg and point for EK w one year left, a terrible contract that will take at least a 1st to get rid off, some throw aways and colin white.

Lets say white = johnson.
pageaus worth nothing in the grand scheme of things; karlsson gets one of serg or point and a 1st (NOT AN NYI FIRST THAT COULD BE TOP10), and ryan takes away value from the deal. that's a ripoff by Ottawa.

tampa gets fleeced too, downgrading from Johnson to White, and then basically all of their youth and a 60 pount winger in Palat for EK. that's not even close to fair. Sure they get rid of callahan but his contract is MUCH easier to get rid of than Ryans, and Ottawa got more value back that way in the proposed deal. And don't tell me Callahans contract is worse and weighs down the deal. Ryans contractis 10x worse.

and nyi doesn't make that deal that pixk can be top10 and nobody wants ryan.

and itll take more to entice NYR to take Callahan.

07 Jul 2018 20:27:56
Islanders take on a brutal contract, a 3rd liner and a decent player that won’t help their case rebuilding and in return take their first rounder (probably top 5) and downgrade to Tampa’s 2nd (should be 55-62). Lol this is awful.

In reality Bobby Ryan is nothing more than a bad contract which the islanders can take but would want a first rounder to do it.

On your mind he’s still a good player. which hurts their rebuild.

Either way you just involved the islanders to help the senators, not themselves lol.

07 Jul 2018 20:50:07
You're setting yourself up for a major disappointment again.

07 Jul 2018 22:31:37
There is absolutely no chance that Karlsson goes for any less than both sergachev and point plus a 1st so get over you unrealistic expectations. Ottawa lost enough trades and getting fleeced on this one is simply not an option.

On top of all that Tampa is up against the cap with or with getting Karlsson as kucherov is up for a huge raise soon and point sergachev cirelli and gourds will also be getting substantial raises. with 3 million in space how do you propose they pull it off?

Tampa after this type of deal can afford to sign EK and give kucherov his raise plus have enough down the road for gourde and cirelli plus they get a future replacement for Johnson in white.

Rangers hardly get fleeced when all they give up is a 6th and in return they get back a fan favourite and a 3rd they come out great and Tampa dumps a bad contract.

Ottawa gets value for value and dumps an overpayed/ not bad contract in Ryan.

Islanders get 2 guys who consistantly get 50+ points a season and a playoff performer 3rd line center by downgrading a 1st to a 2nd.

No matter how you look at it no team gets fleeced in this.

Ottawa gets a future

Tampa forms the realist defence in the league without losing its stride up front and dumps a lot of un needed cap

Islanders get a few pieces to lessen the blow of losing tavares

Rangers basically get something for nothing as a 6th making it in NHL is basically a what? 5% chance?

All teams get better after this.

And fyi no way in hell Johnson equals white. Johnson been going downhill and is slightly overpayed just like Ryan. Tampa is actually trying to move him anyway with or without ek trade.

Plus both rangers and islanders have more than enough cap space to take on these contracts after these last 6 months.

08 Jul 2018 00:49:06
Unbiased jim how does this not help the islanders? They are not in rebuild and are set to offer a huge offer sheet to either Matthew's or marner next season. don't you think either of those guys will want someone to play with? A top 6 of 1 of those 2, barzal, eberle, bailey, Lee, and either Palat, or Ryan sounds pretty solid to me and 1 of those guys on 3rd line with pageau gives massive depth. a team like that wouldn't need a rebuild for a while. and that's not even counting wahlstrom who will also be joining the team eventually this trade definately makes the islanders strong enough to be a playoff team this season and if they land one of the big toronto 2 next season they'll be even crazier.

Then you got the rangers who have tons of cap space and essentially give a useless pick to get a decent pick and a guy who is familiar with their team. again rangers get stronger too.

Tampa needs to dump a contract or 2 for kucherov to be affordable anyway so why not dump 3 huge contracts and bring in the top defenseman in the world to boot. on top of that point sergachev gourde cireli and Miller are going to want big raises as well when contracts are up and there is no way tamp can afford all 5 so it makes sense to use 2 to get a huge piece that can put them over the edge like Karlsson can by jacking up their defence and giving the younger guys they still would have a shot at more ice time it's obvious that Tampa is not only more affordable after the deal but also much stronger for it plus with all the guys moving out white gets a shot to join NHL roster much sooner.

I for one as a true Sens fan would consider any less than a trade involving point and sergachev type players and a 1st round pick a massive loss on Sens part. a loss that cannot be allowed after every other garbage trade Dorian has made.

08 Jul 2018 04:41:03
Thanks topshelf for putting that into english for everyone, and you're right ottawa wins every trade proposal rambo makes by a landslide.

08 Jul 2018 07:57:53
Rambo, you’re an idiot. If Matthews and marner want good players to play with, they sign with Toronto and get each other, Tavares, Nylander, marleau, Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner etc to play with lol

If you think either of them leave the leafs right now to go to the islanders you’re dumber than I thought.

Secondly you say no way Karlsson gets traded unless Sergachev AND Point are coming back?! I take that bet all day long. You will be dead wrong again like always

And I love “Sens have lost too many trades lately, they can’t lose this one too! ” It’s the same owner and same GM that made the rest of the trades haha why would you expect different?!

08 Jul 2018 14:05:24
RYAN SUCKS. GET OVER IT. HE MAKES THE TRADE VALUE DROP IMMENSELY.

You know why the TB/ OTT deal didn’t happen some nights ago? Because your stupid ownerr wanted to include RYan too and NOBODYYYYY wants his LUDRICIS comtract.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. Get over it man. You aren't getting Point, Johnson, Sergachev and a top 10 pick for EK and Pageau, as Ryan basically neglects White.

08 Jul 2018 15:31:08
Biased jim. yeah because they will totally want to take a massive pay cut to stay in toronto lmfao gtfoh. after signing tavares at 11 mil per season how do you expect them to even have to cap room to sign all the other 3? Nylanader is going to get around 7 million marner around 9 million and Matthew's around 11 million. how do you want them to pay the rest of the team? In the form of a case of beer? Lmfao if they get a great offer they will leave like tavares did.

Top shelf crappers. use your head. Ryan is top 6. puts up identical numbers to palat. only difference is 2.25 million overpayment. yet Ryan sucks and palat don't right? Go sell that garbage to someone who will actually buy it. I actually follow hockey and don't buy in to the trashy comments like that. I like most real hockey fans know exactly what Ryan is capable of and does for our team.

08 Jul 2018 15:51:24
There’s a better chance of Karlsson being waived by the sens for Extra cap room and being claimed by CSKA Moscow then the sens getting Point and Sergachev in the same deal.

Also I’m willing to bet my legs and arms that Mathews and Marner don’t sign an offer sheet.

08 Jul 2018 16:52:01
Unless the leafs move Marleau kadri brown rielly and Gardiner before they need to sign those 2 I'd gladly take a bet on that vbbvbb it's easy money.

Sens won't take any less than both those guys plus a 1st. they aren't taking another loss so get over it and stop overvaluing other teams players and undervaluing sens players.

08 Jul 2018 16:58:55
If you are proven wrong again Rambo, will you please leave this site? You just look to start sh*t every day.

08 Jul 2018 17:26:46
As shown on my other post penguins in 2014 signed 5 players- Crosby, Malkin, Neal, letang and fleury for 58.5 of the salary cap

Leafs could pay Nylander 6.5, matthews 11.25 ans marner 8.5 and that would mean they’re using 62% of their cap on 7 players - Tavares, Matthews, marner, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly and Andersen.
That’s how lol.

08 Jul 2018 17:36:36
I agree with leafs17, please just take a hike rambo. you're annoying to even senators fans, your insight is always a joke. saying things like "what bobby ryan brings to our team" and speaking of his capabilities or whatever, the guy is a cap dump. with 29 million dollars still left on his deal, he could be the biggest cap dump in the league. saying that you "actually follow hockey" could be debated by many on here, as you are inaccurate with mostly everything you say. your knowledge of the NHL and hockey in general is weak and you probably can't tell the difference between your ass and your face. and yet, we have to put up with your ignorance everyday.

08 Jul 2018 19:06:36
I won’t say another word on the Karlsson thing till he’s traded, but if Ottawa get ”atleast Point, Sergachev and a 1st” I will make a post saying Rambo was right and Dorian is a Jedi.

If they get what is actually realistic (a young roster player, prospect and 1st) then Rambo should admit he’s completely clueless and knock off the Sens boas BS.

08 Jul 2018 22:30:22
Ramo, take a hike. Kadri, Rielly, Brown are all on team friendly contracts. Its not going to happen.

09 Jul 2018 03:22:59
Leafs I ain't starting anything. the reason I joined this site is because I like reading rumors on my team but when I found this site all I seen was tracy 1 sided rumors that were more of a laugh than believable. 1 guys posts were respectable and even he don't post anymore so I needed to provide a voice for real hockey fans who wanted to see respectable rumors rather than the trash posted here.

And as for you facelift please don't mistake yourself for a Sens fan because that's a joke in itself. if you were you wouldn't be arguing with common sense. as for your Bobby Ryan comment, should we all band together and call the executives of NHL. com and tell them to fix their stats categories? Seeing as how you all love to argue how ryan ain't worth nothing shouldn't his stats reflect that at least? Because for someone ot worth anything his stats certainly don't reflect that in any way. teams want point. He provides points. Any arguments are POINTLESS and wrong!

03 Jul 2018 22:27:52
OTT: Karlsson, Anderson
NYI: Dobson, Wahlstrom, '19 1st

03 Jul 2018 22:57:25
Replace Wahlstrom with Del Colle.

03 Jul 2018 22:59:15
Op. Scratch that. Isles just Signed Lehner.

04 Jul 2018 00:07:27
I’d take that if I’m Sens lol easily.

04 Jul 2018 00:37:41
Isles won't do that

04 Jul 2018 13:04:18
Dal Colle is a bust.

04 Jul 2018 18:07:19
I know. that’s the point.

03 Jul 2018 06:22:36
Ottawa Senators -
• (C) Cody Glass
• (D) Shea Theodore
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (C) Nick Suzuki
Vegas Golden Knights -
• Erik Karlsson

Ottawa Senators -
• (2019) 6th-Round Pick
Arizona Coyotes -
• (RW) Bobby Ryan (25% Salary Retention)
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick

Ottawa Senators -
• (C) Kailer Yamamoto
• (D) Ethan Bear
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
Edmonton Oilers -
• (RW) Mark Stone

Ottawa Senators -
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (RW) Josh Ho-Sang
New York Islanders -
• (C) Matt Duchene

Ottawa Senators -
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (C) Connor Brown
Toronto Maple Leafs -
• (D) Cody Ceci

The sends go in full rebuild mode and head to the draft with 4 1st-Round Picks.

Mikkel Boedker - Cody Glass - Kailer Yamamoto
Nick Suzuki - Jean Pageau - Ryan Dzingel
Magnus Paajarvi - Zack Smith - Josh Ho-Sang
Connor Brown - Marian Gaborik - Colin White

Shea Theodore - Ethan Bear
Thomas Chabot - Ben Harpur
Fredrik Claesson - Mark Borowiecki

03 Jul 2018 09:01:10
Overpayment from VGK
Prolly not enough to take on Ryan
Somewhat solid
TOR would be stupid to do that.

03 Jul 2018 12:42:30
aren't white and suzuki centers and gaborik a winger?

03 Jul 2018 16:14:07
Omg wow is that ever an overpayment. He’s a UFA next year and it’s all but a forgone conclusion he’s leaving the Organization. Ottawa has zero leverage he won’t return half of that. He’ll probably just end up signing in Colorado or San Jose as a UFA especially if that’s what the sens are asking for.

Also not a chance Ceci brings that back he might be worth a 2nd his advanced statistics are up there with the worst in the NHL.

03 Jul 2018 22:22:15
Lol sens fan? Just asking, i would take any of these trades and run with it never looking back.

28 Jun 2018 19:15:54
Mtl : Pacioretty
Nyi : Nelson (signed), 1st 2019 (likely around 20th)

Fair?

28 Jun 2018 20:09:41
I don't do that trade if I'm MTL.

29 Jun 2018 04:22:11
I think Habs would be all over that.

28 Jun 2018 00:39:00
(G) Garrett Sparks + (LW) Matt Martin to the New York Islanders in exchange for (D) Mitchell Vande Sompell + Conditional 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick.

Condition: If Sparks plays 40+ Games for the Islanders, the pick is awarded. If Sparks plays 30+ Games for the Islanders, a 5th is awarded. If neither is met, no pick is awarded.

(RW) Josh Leivo + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick to the Florida Panthers in exchange for (D) Mark Pysyk.

(D) Jake Gardiner (Extension: 5.0 Million x 5 Years) + (C) Miro Aaltonen (Rights) + (D) Andrew Nielsen to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for (D) Justin Braun.

(I’d love to keep Jake too, but we can’t just keep him and let him walk. We could offer him that extension but we just can’t afford to be paying him and Rielly similar dollars for similar play styles, and with Timothy and Dermott coming up, it doesn’t make practical sense)

This is unlikely. but the speculation continues so. in free agency/ resigning:

John Tavares - 10.5 Million x 7 Years.
Anthony Duclair - 1.25 Million x 2 Years.
William Nylander - 6.00 Million x 8 Years.
Andreas Johnsson - 2.00 Million x 4 Years.
Mitch Marner - 7.25 Million x 8 Years.
Auston Matthews - 10.5 Million x 8 Years.


Lineup (2018/ 19, most expensive year)

Anthony Duclair (1.25 Million) - Auston Matthews (10.5 Million) - William Nylander (6.0 Million)
Patrick Marleau (6.25 Million) - John Tavares (10.5 Million) - Mitch Marner (7.25 Million)
Andreas Johnsson (2.0 Million) - Nazem Kadri (4.5 Million) - Kasperi Kapanen (875K)
Zach Hyman (2.25 Million) - Par Lindholm (1.0 Million) - Connor Brown (2.1 Million)

Justin Braun (3.8 Million) - Morgan Rielly (5.0 Million)
Mark Pysyk (2.2 Million) - Travis Dermott (875K)
Nikita Zaitsev (4.5 Million) - Igor Ozhiganov (2.0 Million [Extension])

Frederik Andersen (5.0 Million)
Calvin Pickard (1.0 Million)

Total: 78.85 Million (Fits)

Then, the year after, Marleau/ Duclair/ Braun will be let go or traded, and Grundstrom/ Engvall/ Brooks/ Bracco/ Liljegren will take their place, and will save nearly 7.5 Million in cap. The year prior, Matthews and Marner will still be ELC so we’ll be good there too.

28 Jun 2018 04:59:15
Am I missing something or is Nylander seriously not as good as Marner and next closeish to Matthews in terms of being one of the top players? Nowadays if somebody makes 1.5-2m more than another guy who thinks they are similar that could cause some issues I’d think for contracts. Just my opinion tho I’d think there’s egos. As I think Nylander is right up there with Marner for sure.

28 Jun 2018 05:51:00
Nylander isn’t on the same planet as Marner. Marner is a Franchise player a team can build around and Nylander is a great complimentary player. Marner is closer to Mathews.

28 Jun 2018 13:41:58
Marner and WIlly had similar point totals, but Marner has emerged as a driver of his line and a driver of play, Willy is almost constantly in the shadow of AM. Both are good, but Marner is more of a catalyst of play, and seems to have a slightly higher upside than Willy.

28 Jun 2018 14:12:10
Marner a "franchise player"? I get you think he's amazing and all but that term doesn't apply here. Call him a star winger or something but franchise player? There's a bunch of better wingers in the league than him that I wouldn't even consider calling them franshise players.

28 Jun 2018 14:49:01
Franchise player is stretching it with marner so far, but if he plays like he did from January to game 7 vs Boston, he’s going to pass a lot of guys around the league for that title. He was dominant in almost every game down the stretch. And in the playoffs, out performed Matthews easily. Matthews is still the best player and most important guy on the team, but marners making a case for a huge check.

28 Jun 2018 14:57:10
Well he’s 20 so obviously veteran Prime players like Benn, Kane and Ovechkin are better but once he gets to that point he’ll be known as a “star winger” I already believe he’s at the Guadreau level. No winger in the NHL can drive a line like that for his age. He’s in the Same Catagory as Drais imo.

28 Jun 2018 15:38:31
Oh I always thought they were similar I didn’t know Marner took off that like in terms of value and play.

28 Jun 2018 15:39:31
Ok. I would say you can call him a star winger right now if you want. With Potential to be a superstar winger. But franchise winger tag on Marner right now is laughable.
Gaudreau is still better, right now.

28 Jun 2018 15:55:29
People forget that Marner had 2 goals in the first 34 games of this season. He scored 20 in the remaining 48 games after being put on a line with Marleau and Kadri in January. For the final 48 games and into the playoffs, Marner was by far the leafs most dangerous player and showed himself to be a big game player. He elevates the production of his line mates to another level. Ex, before playing with a Marner, Kadri was on a 21 game goalless drought. He still finished the season with 32 goals. That’s how good Marner is. Matthews is still another tier ahead of him, but at this point Marner has shown to be another level higher than Nylander, who is still very talented as well.

28 Jun 2018 15:57:53
Agreed there’s better wingers. Just saying I would leave the door open for him, i think he’s better than a lot of people assume. He’s had some ups and downs obviously as a young player. For me to call him more than a star, he has to play like he did lately a lot more consistently tho for sure.

28 Jun 2018 16:30:31
Saw an interesting tweet on that subject:

Points/ 60 since 2016/ 2017:

Marner 2.95
MacKinnon: 2.95
Kane: 2.93
Draisaitl: 2.91
Hall:2.90
Eichel: 2.85
Seguin: 2.79
Giroux: 2.78
Tarasenko: 2.76
Benn: 2.76
Tavares: 2.76

That's pretty elite company for a kid who just turned 21 and still has the build of a 15 year old. He's incredible already and has a ton of room to grow.

I don't think franchise player is too generous a term in his case.

28 Jun 2018 17:32:02
18 players, need at least 20. Can probably still just get under the cap and pray for no injuries.

28 Jun 2018 18:52:04
Love how everyone disagrees with Unsportsmanlike even tho he’s just stating facts. Just Rambo and a bunch of petty oilers fans sad that the oilers aren’t as good as the leafs.

28 Jun 2018 20:23:15
Maybe people disagree with his opinion he also mentioned with those stats?

Sad that the Oilees aren't as good as the Leafs? Yikes. Have you won a playoff series in recent years?
I'm not even going to scream who is better or not obviously we are biased as Fuk on that topic. But first Marner is a franchise player now screaming more homer biased out?
Entertaining as always.

28 Jun 2018 21:25:36
Seeing as how I'm a fan of neither team, I'd say I'm pretty impartial on that front. And that's cool, you can totally disagree that Marner is a franchise player. I was just pointing out that he has very comparable stats to a lot of guys who are considered franchise players, despite being considerably younger, so take it for what it's worth.

As for comparing Leafs vs. Oilers. yikes. Leafs have been a dumpster fire for so many years but it looks like they have finally righted the ship. Oilers have the best player in the world, but with Chia at the helm I really don't know. They have some ugly contracts (trading Lucic would go a long way in fixing that) which is critical in a cap world and for a team that had so many high draft picks they still don't have the depth the Leafs have (in my opinion) . And I'm still flabbergasted by the Hall trade.

Even with McDavid, I would much prefer to have the Leafs entire roster/ system right now instead of Edmonton's. True that the Leafs have not won a series in almost two decades, but I think they are on the cusp of what will be an incredible 10-12 years with maybe even a cup or two. Edmonton needs to fire Chia and get somebody in there ASAP who knows what they are doing to maximize McDavid's potential and get a better team around him.

28 Jun 2018 21:43:46
Well I can back up with what i say with facts and atleast the leafs made the playoffs. Oilers are pretty desperate without McDavid.

28 Jun 2018 23:58:44
Well put @unsportsmanlike. System top to bottom I don’t think it’s a stretch to say leafs. And it’s hard not to blame the guy at the top (chiarelli) for that. He seems to be Teflon tho, people are not nearly disgusted with him in that city. Like if dubas traded marner right now for a mediocre Dman, he wouldn’t be forgiven in a few months and have fans defending him lol should have thrown him out on his ass a long time ago, before you even knew the devils make the playoffs and oilers don’t and before Hall wins the Hart, he’d be gone.

25 Jun 2018 21:36:47
OTT: Anderson
NYI: 2nd, 4th, Clutterbuck

Isles get they're starting goalie and lose Clutterbucks contract

26 Jun 2018 22:09:11
Sens don't want another bad contract. the 2nd and 4th would be enough.

27 Jun 2018 03:36:08
I like it.

Clutterbuck could play on a line with Bobby Ryan and Gaborik. $15 mln for 30 goals.

27 Jun 2018 15:56:00
For the first time I agree with you Rambo.

02 Jul 2018 18:10:20
Geeze keyhabs is the world ending? Lol.

25 Jun 2018 19:47:18
To Calgary Flames
• (RW) Brendan Gallagher
To Montreal Canadiens
• (C) Mark Jankowski
• (C) Dillon Dube
• (2019) Second Round Pick
• (D) Michael Stone (Cap)

To Edmonton Oilers
• (LW) Max Pacioretty
• (D) Noah Juulsen
To Montreal Canadiens
• (RW) Kailer Yamamoto
• (2019) 1st Round Pick - EDM
• (D) Kris Russell

To Carolina Hurricanes
• (LW) Arturri Lehkonen
To Montreal Canadiens
• (LW) Phil Di Guiseppe

To New York Islanders
• (LW) Paul Byron
To Montreal Canadiens
• (RW) Josh Ho-Sang


Danault - Jankowski - Drouin
Domi - Dube - Yamamoto
Di Guiseppe - Shaw - Hudon
Sherbak - De La Rose - Ho-Sang

Mete - Weber
Alzner - Petry
Russell - Stone

25 Jun 2018 20:12:42
Montreal says no on the first 3 and The Islanders say no on the fourth one.

25 Jun 2018 21:11:33
Oilers say no! Too High price.

25 Jun 2018 21:53:39
The only reason Edmonton says no to that trade would be because they can’t afford to resign pacioretty.
Russel has negative value.
Rather keep juulsen over Yamamoto.
And the first would have to be ranked 8-12 For Montreal to take on russels contract.

25 Jun 2018 22:35:37
I love how you have stone as a cap dumb but other posts I’ve seen him get a 2nd or 3rd round pick lmao.
No from montreal, no from oil, No from Montreal and no from Islanders.

26 Jun 2018 00:35:36
How does Russell have negative value lol wtf.

26 Jun 2018 01:18:42
Let me guess McJesus Yamamoto is a future 40 goal player he should get Kucherov + and that 1st is worth Josi because that’s a future franchise player smh I think you’re more bias then Rambo.

26 Jun 2018 07:00:40
Vb you’re the most clueless guy on here and when you say stupid stuff like you just did that has 0 relevance to what I said just makes you look worse come on man.

26 Jun 2018 07:57:18
Yamamoto was the biggest steal last year? IF he was bigger he would have been gone in top 5.

26 Jun 2018 11:21:18
No from Oil on the Patches trade, really?

Julsen> Yamamoto

RHD is a premium in this league and Julsen is better then Yamamoto comon. Then a late first rd and a cap dump in Russel? U for real bro Edm takes that and run.

26 Jun 2018 15:14:04
Edmonton takes that and runs IF they want Patches. If not then teams would easily beat out that package.

26 Jun 2018 17:27:03
@SWECHAMP, how do you know Yamamotos the biggest steal of a draft that’s 12 months old and no one outside a handful of players near the top have done anything in the NHL?

Liljegren at 17th who was the youngest player in the AHL this season and played top 4 minutes on a championship team?

Morgan Frost at 27th who put up 112 pts in 67 games plus 29 pts in the playoffs taking his team to the OHL final?

Or Eeli Tolvanen at 30th who was dominating in the KHL at 18 and will be an everyday player on a cup contender in October?

What makes yamamoto at 22nd more of a steal than any of those players besides he wears blue and orange?! A 1.6 points per game in the CHL is impressive, but other guys went in that same first round were better than him in the CHL this year and a few guys played huge roles on championship teams in pro hockey around the world. Stop the homer garbage.

26 Jun 2018 18:06:55
Eeli Tolovanen seems like the streal of the draft as of now.

24 Jun 2018 15:15:44
To Islanders:
Duchene
Karlesson

To Ottawa:
Barzel
Walhstrom
Dobson

Heard NYI had interest in Craig Anderson. Maybe throw in a goalie trade too.

Tavares signs by noon with these two added. Can handle the cap space.

Ottawa has rebuild with major assets.

24 Jun 2018 15:34:07
Oh. My. God. Rambone.2.

24 Jun 2018 17:15:48
I don't see this trade happening, you're missing some of the most important pieces Ottawa has to take back for a karlsson deal. They have no first round draft pic and karlsson is one of the only prices that will fix that.

24 Jun 2018 19:13:15
And Karlsson is 1 year! And you think he’s going to sign to stay in NYI? They are fighting tooth and nail just to keep their own star there because what a disaster the team and arena situation. Why would any other player with a choice sign there?!

25 Jun 2018 04:05:36
No way this package gets both duchene and Karlsson unless tavares involved too.

Duchene alone got Colorado Bowers who was a 1st himself and a 1st and hammond and every piece from turris Nashville deal. and turris at the time was duchenes equal in every way.

Karlsson can be expected to pull in a similar haul and no way we give duchene away for less than equal pr greater value .

25 Jun 2018 04:22:59
Karlsson and Duchene don’t get a Barzel straight up. Karlsson will get that just like Hoffman got a top 10 pick. ohh wait never mind.

25 Jun 2018 11:18:37
Vbbvbb you have less then no credibility now so just go to sleep.

25 Jun 2018 14:42:24
Rambo, you did say Hoffman would bring back a top 10 pick and a top prospect. That’s what you said and they got an overpaid 3rd liner, b-c prospect and a 6th rounder. So you’re not one to talk about credibility in valuing players. Also, we will find out fairly soon what Karlssons value is, then Anderson’s value, and I would assume stones value not long after that. And I can guarantee you total haul won’t be 50% of what you have been saying every senator players worth.

25 Jun 2018 15:23:57
Hahaha all aboard the disappointment train!

Choo choo!

Next stop: Rambo's mom's basement.

You're setting yourself up for a major fall here kiddo.

25 Jun 2018 15:51:46
Of course he would. Why do a lot of teams ask about Karlsson do you think.

26 Jun 2018 22:23:23
Jim that's one trade I've been further off than the rest of you on and only because Dorian was dumb enough to take a massive hit on hoffman's actual value to move him quick. every other trade that usually happens is a lot closer to my projections than any of yours including the over payment on duchene.

I believe my projection was turris and lajoie for duchene

Yours was ceci white chabot a 1st and then some in other words 2 high end prospects a 1st and a young top 4 defenceman

Actuall trade was basically turris a 1st a b+ prospect and a bad contract back up goalie

And you are right about 1 thing that we will soon find out. no way they take that kind of loss on Hoffman only to let Karlsson go for any less than full value regardless of contract.

 
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