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24 Apr 2018 17:18:04
Oil: Puljujarvi

Isles: Ho Sang + 2nd.

24 Apr 2018 17:37:52
I'd take it if I were the Isles.

24 Apr 2018 19:34:32
There wars talk about puljujarvi for faulk 1 for 1 and you talk about ho sang? 😂😂.

24 Apr 2018 19:47:52
That’s not talk, that was an article you read lol as I read it to. And that doesn’t work for oilers cap hurricanes need to take salary back as well so can’t just be Puljujarvi.

24 Apr 2018 20:38:31
I’d hope for at least NYI’s first this year instead of the second.

24 Apr 2018 21:18:08
Would think Pulj could get a good amount more tbh. Ho-Sangs value is basically a 2nd, so two 2nds for Pulj seems low imo.

I think give Pulj another year on a better Oilers team, and then assess his value.

23 Apr 2018 04:20:53
Col: two 2nd round picks

NYI: Varlamov

Then

Col: Markstrom

Van: Timmins.

23 Apr 2018 05:48:37
If sven can't get you timmins i doubt markstrom will lmao.

23 Apr 2018 08:04:04
Hahahaha. Colorado laughs at the Vancouver one.

23 Apr 2018 11:10:41
Timmons won’t be traded for anything short of a gross overpayment.

23 Apr 2018 02:17:56
DRAFT DAY

to NYI
Hutton

to St Louis
6th

Hutton signs with NY and becomes their starter as Halak expires.

23 Apr 2018 07:08:05
6th? Is he a UFA? I actually don’t know but if so then maybe. But could imagine blues want to keep Hutton.

23 Apr 2018 14:30:25
After his play this year, would think they play Allen And Hutton as 1A and 1B next year.

24 Apr 2018 00:00:57
My hypothesis is that hutton will want "unproven starter" money, AKA Talbot and Darling money. I'm not so sure St Louis wants to do that. And yes, he is a UFA.

19 Apr 2018 04:47:39
Oilers: 1st round pick 2018 + Leon Draisiatl
Hurricanes: Noah Hanifin + Sebastian Aho

Oilers: Kailer Yamamoto + Kris Russell
Islanders: Josh Ho-Sang + Ryan Pulock.

19 Apr 2018 06:40:09
Not that the value is far off but I wouldn’t do the first one as an Oiler fan. The second one is probably a no from NYI. But Yamamoto could be a really good NHLer and I’d hate to lose him but I’d be all over that trade.

19 Apr 2018 14:26:09
Edmonton wouldn't do any of them.

19 Apr 2018 15:11:52
No from Isles on the second one Ebs. Pulock had a breakthrew season this year. Think he finished with 30+ points too. I wouldn't trade him straight up for Yamamoto if i'm Isles because he is finaly coming into the player he was drafted to be.

19 Apr 2018 16:15:43
I don't have a great idea of Pulock's value, but both seem like the value is quite even on both. Draisiatl's and Aho's numbers are quite similar this year. If anything, I think Carolina is giving slightly too much. However, I think Carolina's done rebuilding and they want NHL talent vice draft picks. Overall, not bad proposals.

20 Apr 2018 02:08:33
No from oilers.
Yes from oilers.

18 Apr 2018 20:48:14
Wild trade! Just to see reactions!
Oilers: 1st round pick 2018 + Lucic
Panthers: Petrovic

Oilers: Russel + B prospect
Islanders: Ho Sang (Islanders could use more stability on the back end)

This leaves a huge cap space for Oilers. Over 17m after signing Nurse + Caggiula + Benning + Strome

Oilers Sign:
Grabner: 3m x 3 (I like his speed and kills penalties)
Maroon 3m x 3 (He would replace Lucic’s physicality but cheaper)
Derek Ryan 1.5 x 1 or 2 (4th lone centre, allowing JJ to play 3rd line with Strome.

Carlson 7 m x 7 or
Green 5m x 2 (preferably Carlson)

Hutton as back goalie 1.5 x 2
Trade Montoya for anything or send him down to AHL.

RNH - McDavid- Grabner
Maroon - Drai - Ho Sang
JJ - Strome - Puljujarvi
Caggiula - Ryan - Kassian
Arberg

Nurse - Carlson
Klefbom - Larson
Sekera - Petrovic
Benning.

18 Apr 2018 23:03:01
Probably what it’d cost to dump Lucic but I’m not sure if edm is that desperate yet.

19 Apr 2018 00:43:54
No from Edmonton, wow.
Could work but I think islanders may prefer younger dman (Benning) and hard to tell when you say B prospect, got to day somebody.
Grabner signing could be good he has speed.
Maroon, no, considering we will still have lucic.
Derek Ryan could be a great signing especially at that deal.
Carlson will seek more money imo, and green is he is 100% healthy that deal wouldn’t be bad.
Hutton would be good backup!

19 Apr 2018 02:24:28
I don't think there's a team out there that would take Lucic.

19 Apr 2018 04:41:26
No from Oilers and Islanders. Would rather keep the draft pick and Lucic. And Ho-Sang can get better.

19 Apr 2018 05:58:52
What do you think Carlson would get? I can’t see more than 7.5 m over 7 years?
The idea of getting maroon is because Lucic would be gone.
Can someone tell me what you think Ho Sang would get? What has this kid proven?

19 Apr 2018 14:52:57
No way Mr Cap Dump Ruseel gets you a young playwr with as much as potential as ho sang. Yes he has attitude problems but so did Tyler Seguin.

19 Apr 2018 15:13:53
Sorry to tell you Ebs but if top 6 player in they're late 20s and early 30 gets 5.5 -7 million for 5-7 year when an actual valuable RHD #1 D that just had a 60 point season comes along he's getting 9+ million. Especially after the seaso he just had. I woulndt be surprise if he gets 9.5×7. he's only 27 too.

11 Apr 2018 06:27:20
Oil: Klefbom + Puljujarvi
Yotes: OEL

Oil: Benning + 3rd
Isles: Ho-Sang


Oil draft Wahlstrom in draft (or Dobson if Wahlstrom is already taken)

Sign Grabner.

11 Apr 2018 11:23:32
Ypu think Klefbom+ Pul gets you OEL? i'm sprry to tell you this but the difference in value betwen Klefbom and OEL is more then a guy who dint even hit 30 pooints in a season yet. Bug no from Ari as lomg as they're concern Pul hasn't proved enough to be implicated in a deal for they're best D who has proved lots.

11 Apr 2018 16:00:59
Not to bad. I think the Arizona trade is pretty fair, however I don't know if Chayka takes it. only because they have had so many young up and comers for years, maybe they want a veteran presence. some leadership for the young guys.

11 Apr 2018 16:05:08
Yeah, I’ve seen people jump all over leaf offers for OEL that were a lot more enticing than that. Obviously it all depends if they think they’re going to lose him after the season anyway, but I’d have to believe there would be a number of teams willing to offer a good #3-4 Dmen and a single top prospect for him. Could be wrong, all depends on coyotes mindset into his future there I guess.

11 Apr 2018 19:29:52
Yup I agree Toronto could propose a better offer but I think they should go for a RHD instead of OEL. And ya totally depends on how coyotes view their future and what core they have in mind if they are comfortable getting another young top prospect who hasn’t exactly established himself yet.

11 Apr 2018 20:02:23
NYI are going to laugh hard at this one.

11 Apr 2018 22:45:57
i feel like the value is there on the ARZ trade. but based on the fact that Chayka said he wouldn't trade OEL for Mathews . i feel like he would reject.

12 Apr 2018 17:45:55
Toronto would offer more something around rielly+ rielly>klefbom.

12 Apr 2018 18:51:40
I can’t see Toronto trading Reilly.

13 Apr 2018 02:49:12
Riellys LHd and so is OEL. So depending on the add needed, it would be an upgrade. But having Rielly breaking out this year with 50+ points, only 24 years old and on a 6 year 5mill contract would be a big risk to trade.

13 Apr 2018 19:29:10
OEL is a for sure upgrade on Reilly but Reilly is locked up on a decent contract and for the prime of his career. Toronto should defs move other pieces for OEL.

08 Apr 2018 15:53:22
To VAN:
Andrew Ladd
CGY 1st 2018 (probably 12th overall)

To NYI:
Brandon Sutter


Isles sacrifice a high pick to get rid of Ladd's contract. They get a useful (yet overpayed) player in return.

Canucks can afford to take on a bad contract. Ladd would have to waive his NTC but he's from BC so it's a strong possibility.

08 Apr 2018 18:46:07
Lmao no not worth at all to do that for islanders are you serious?!

08 Apr 2018 18:48:05
If anything, it should be Ladd and a little for Sutter. Both contracts are albatrosses tho.

08 Apr 2018 20:11:16
That’s a big over payment to dump Ladd.

06 Apr 2018 17:29:03
The islanders are in need of defence.
Oilers are in need of cap space and wingers and RHD. What about this?

Oilers: Sekera
Islanders: Ho Sang (He isn’t working for them)

Oilers: get a good RHW prospect that is cheap and would look good on McDavid’s right wing.
Islanders: get a good defence man in return.

Oilers: will have the space to go over for RHD. Would love Carlson (Capitals), but maybe Green for a season or two until Bear is better ready for the NHL.

06 Apr 2018 18:11:17
Sekera has been terrible this year, and has like negative value rn. He ain't getting Ho Sang tbh, espex at that contract.

06 Apr 2018 18:22:53
Sekera has always been a good dman. This season he was injured and hurt.

06 Apr 2018 18:35:27
Also, what has Ho sang proven? Nothing! Potential and bad attitude only!

06 Apr 2018 18:45:28
Ho sang hasn’t proved anything so can’t see him with so much value and you can’t say sekera has been terrible considering he was injured the whole year and had the worst luck iv ever seen. However yes he was not a good player this year unfortunately and with his contract he defs does not carry a whole ton of value. But no from islanders on this one, maybe Russell intrigues Islanders? Or benning?

06 Apr 2018 19:10:21
Damn it NYI don’t need an other defensive DMan.

06 Apr 2018 20:44:45
That’s how islanders get better in the absence of Tavares. trade a young high skilled forward for a 4th-5th D who makes half what it would take to keep Tavares lol.

06 Apr 2018 22:00:57
It doesn’t matter how skilled the forwards are. No defence, no winning. We saw that his year with the oilers and the islanders. Plus, I’m betting Bo Sang will be traded soon. Bad terms!

06 Apr 2018 23:18:05
@MJ

Matt Benning shoukd be able to get it done tbh. I'm not saying Sekera isn't proven to be decent/ good. I'm saying NYI should never want that contract on their team, especially with only 3 points in 36 games this year. Sure he's been injured, but any trade of him ATM would be a pure salary dump, and no value should be going back the other way. Just simply based on this year, and his contract.

Matt Benning and a 3rd may be good though.

And @EOil, no HoSang hasn't proven much, but NYI ain't going to trade a former first round pick for a bad contract.

06 Apr 2018 23:48:00
Yup I agree top shelf.
And benning and a 3rd could be very interesting to islanders If they really do wanna trade ho sang.

07 Apr 2018 00:42:08
Sekera has nagitive value.

07 Apr 2018 02:54:24
Sekera is also 31. Bad attitude or not, Ho Sang is a 22 year old forward with talent that you have slotted in next to McDavid. I’m guessing he’s worth more than Sekera.

07 Apr 2018 18:18:08
Again, got to love when guys make a trade proposal for a player, put him on their projected top line and then tear the player down and try to diminish the asset when people tell you it’s not a fair offer. If HoSang is unproven, not worth anything and a bad attitude, then there’s an easy solution. don’t trade for him! Why bring a problem into the dressing room and put him with your best player! Lol.

07 Apr 2018 21:05:40
I didn’t say the kid isn’t talented, but his trade value is low. I’m putting that out. That means he doesn’t require a top dman to get him, especially when the islanders need dman. So ya lol!

03 Apr 2018 16:24:54
islanders sign and trade tavares
Islanders-Tavares
Blues- Fabbri, Parayko, 1st
Islanders tank for a year, get another high pick/picks if they make more trades. Rebuild around Barzal

03 Apr 2018 17:10:29
Don’t know if it’s fair but I totally agree with the fact that NYI has to trade and forget about JT in order to build around Barzal.

03 Apr 2018 17:44:14
That would have to be one heck of a sign and trade. What terms are we talking.

03 Apr 2018 17:54:41
A signed Tavares will potentially get a better deal imo.

03 Apr 2018 18:33:48
Thats not going to happen if nyi sign him the going to keep him and or he just signs with whatever team he's wants.

03 Apr 2018 19:30:12
St. Louis would want Sorokin the GOAT in that trade. Garth is asking for too much. Typical!

05 Apr 2018 04:56:38
I feel people don't know how sign and trades work. He wouldn't be signing with NYI expecting to play there and then flipped for a haul. he'd agree to an 8 year deal with another team. he'd have to sign that deal with NYI. Part of that agreement would include the trade. NYI would get something somewhat small in return for helping the team/ player get the extra year. They aren't getting 8 years of Tavares return for adding the year and they aren't keeping him in this situation. He essentially is agreeing to terms with another team NYI will just get something instead of nothing for helping facilitate the deal.

05 Apr 2018 19:40:09
In the people got a 2 rd pick for before july 1 for the negotaion rights for tavares that it not 2 very good players and a first rd pick that would be a good trade if he was a rfa.

31 Mar 2018 03:08:55
Buffalo trades Ristolainen, R, Pominville, J and
Beaulieu, N
to EDM for Nugent-Hopkins, R, 2019 2nd round pick (EDM) and 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)

31 Mar 2018 05:24:34
Lol you can’t be serious.

31 Mar 2018 15:05:31
@Keyhabs please elaborate, who wins, who loses. "LOL you can't be serious" tells me nothing.

31 Mar 2018 15:44:40
1st of all a huge, young top pairing d man like Risto has more value than nuge not to say nuge doesn’t have good value just that d like risto aren’t nearly as common as 2nd line centerman. So just based on the availability of guys like risto elevates his value considerably higher than nuge. 2nd buffalo already has Eichel and Rielly and Reinhart as centerman so there really is no need for another centerman especially at the cost of their best defenceman. Base on the needs of buffalo and the fact that there isn’t enough quality going to buffalo it’s a pretty easy no from buffalo.

31 Mar 2018 18:35:39
Reinhart garbage.

31 Mar 2018 19:32:24
You land a a top DMan for a secound line player
Cmon man we both know this is so biased in Edmonton 's favor.

31 Mar 2018 20:02:55
Reinhart better then strome or jesse. p.

01 Apr 2018 00:37:33
Yeah, Reinhart has been a lot better if you’ve watched him play. I’ve never been a huge believer in him, but 17, 20 and 23 goal seasons by age 21 is not garbage. By that standard, a lot of oilers players that you seem to have hope for are atrocious.

But regardless It’s a top pair RH Dman, a 4-6 Dman ans a veteran body for your 3rd best centre (2nd on a lot of teams) a 2nd and a 3rd lol come on man.

01 Apr 2018 17:09:58
If you had a 21 or 22 year old player averaging 20 goals a year through his first 3 NHL seasons on your team, would you call him garbage? No you wouldn’t.

01 Apr 2018 17:58:56
Wow people agreed with me :)

01 Apr 2018 23:36:33
@Brock, I don’t agree with your trades lol they’re typically awful, I just don’t agree with him saying a decent young player is garbage. If you wanna take that as a win, I won’t stop ya haha.

29 Mar 2018 22:08:34
Oilers: slepyshev and 3rd rounder

Islanders: Ho Sang.

29 Mar 2018 23:07:18
I’d personally be all over that. I’d think the Oil would need too add but is Ho Sang worth a 2nd +? Slepyshev is actually a decent player and an early 3rd isn’t too bad either.

29 Mar 2018 21:51:07
Habs/ Isles possibility:

Charlie Lindgren and Logan Shaw to the New York Islanders in exchange for Joshua Ho-Sang and the rights to Jarsolav Halak.

- The Islanders could use a young goalie. From what I've seen of Lindgren, he's looked good, but if Price is going to stay (with that contract, probably), there isn't room for him. Plus, Fucale could always show signs of developmental turnaround (maybe? ) . But goal should be the least of the concerns for Montreal, and yet, it is also New Yorks biggest concern.
- New York gives away a guy with high potential, but with an extremely arrogant attitude. I do think that Ho-Sang can be a solid player in the NHL, but I seriously doubt it would be with the Isles. Montreal may be able to turn him around, and considering that there will most likely be an overhaul on the team, Ho-Sang may be able to fit in. Plus, Montreal could desperately use offence, and Ho Sang brings that.

30 Mar 2018 16:34:33
Montreal I don't think would take Ho-Sang. seems like anyone who has some ice off issues. or whatever, gets shipped out. not always. but hardly ever see them bring one one in.
As for Lindgren, I'm not completely sold on the guy yet, however I would loke to keep him as the back up. everyone on hereknows I'm one of Prices biggest fans. however., even I am getting concerned about his health and his game . So, we need to keep good young goalie prospects.

21 Mar 2018 20:48:23
With prospects needing a chance at the NHL level (Morin, Frost, Vorobyev, Allison etc), the Flyers need to move some veterans this offseason:

NYI: Gudas $3.35MM UFA 2020 (despite his salty reputation, he actually drives play well)
PHI: 2018 2nd (NYI) - the lowest of their two seconds in this draft

The Islanders have 3 defencemen as UFAs this offseason with only Pulock and Boychuk as being natural righties.

CGY: Simmonds ($3.975MM UFA 2019), Weal ($1.75MM UFA 2019)
PHI: Fox, 2020 1st (lottery protected), 2018 FLA 4th, Conditional 2020 4th*becomes 2020 2nd if Simmonds re-signs

Calgary's right side is awful. Weal is fast and has talent, but was blocked by a Stanley Cup roster in LA and aging veterans and waivers in Philadelphia. The picks are in later years to help Calgary get some prospects into their system after this season.

Edmonton: Raffl $2.35MM UFA 2019, retained 50% for Edmonton's cap
PHI: 2019 3rd, 2020 4th

Raffl is a swiss army knife that can capably play up and down the lineup, is defensively responsible, and is a pretty good penalty killer. It won't fix Edmonton's issues, but would help their PK and defensive coverage. He's be a valuable 4th liner and great role player.

I know I'm only 1 of 2 Flyers fans on here but I thought I'd throw this out there.

05 Apr 2018 18:23:01
As a flames fan. I would jump on that trade.

17 Mar 2018 19:38:19
To NYI:
Philipp Grubauer

To WSH:
Michael Dal Colle
Conditional pick 2019


For the Isles, it's clear. They get a young 1B goalie who can challenge his countryman Greiss for the starter's job.

Caps get a LW prospect who seems to be a bust but still can turn it around if given a chance to play with skilled players. The conditional pick will depend on games played by MDC in 2018-19. If he plays less than 40 NHL games, Caps also get CGY's 2nd in 2019. If he plays 41+ games, there's no pick from the Isles (similar to Drouin-Sergachev trade).

17 Mar 2018 20:13:44
Lol going to take a much better goalie.

18 Mar 2018 12:47:07
Honestly, not too bad.

Problem is, Isles have tried too many 'iffy' goalies (Greiss, Berube, Halak, Gibson, etc. ) and I feel that Grub may fall into the same boat, considering he doesn't have any seasons as a 'starter' under his belt. I could see them going after a guy like Anttii Raanta, or even a guy like Craig Anderson due to their experience.

But the proposed trade is pretty fair imo.

19 Mar 2018 22:28:15
Post some of those unbiased leaf trades for a change. Leafs could use a dman or two . I hear Paul martin is on the market lol.

20 Mar 2018 02:33:09
Concede.

25 Feb 2018 20:04:48
Oil: 3rd

Isles: ho sang.

25 Feb 2018 20:27:26
No way from NYI. Yes he has off ice issues, but I think if the ask for him was a third, he'd certainly be gone by now. He has a tremendous skillset.

25 Feb 2018 20:33:55
Come on. Lol.

25 Feb 2018 21:10:17
Jesus Christ if this is not a troll.

25 Feb 2018 23:57:27
Ho sang for 4th.

26 Feb 2018 05:39:11
Yamamoto for a 4th, but bear for 9 1sts because I don’t wanna start a war.

26 Feb 2018 05:54:45
Ho sang for 5th.

26 Feb 2018 12:41:10
I guess it’s tooucj to ask you not to be a tool today. 3 months ago you thought feb 26th you’d be watching Chiarelli gett rentals to try and help mcdavid win a cup and instead your day consists of watching him beg people for the highest possible pick for maroon. You get a pass from being irrational. Just grab a box of Kleenex and have a good cry day, BRUH.

26 Feb 2018 15:21:45
If Curtis Lazar can land a 2nd round pick i'm pretty sure Ho Sang could get more.

Easy no from the Islanders.

26 Feb 2018 15:30:47
It’s like a woman having a breakdown on the day her ex marries a different girl.

25 Feb 2018 18:30:03
Michael Stone to NYI for 3rd 2018

Michael Del Zotto to CGY for C. Lazar + 3rd 2019 + A. Mangiapane

25 Feb 2018 12:13:28
OTT: John Tavares
NYI: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan @50%

In a stunning turn of events, Melnyk opens checkbook and strokes his name to an 80 million dollar check to keep Tavares in Ottawa for 8 years and annoy the Leafs at the same time.

Islanders get help they need on D. Karlsson and Ryan will help replace the offence lost with Tavares.

25 Feb 2018 14:10:11
If Tavares leaves the island he will be going to a contender, not a tire fire.

25 Feb 2018 14:39:46
It doesn’t piss off the leafs to not get Tavares, we have a #1 centre. Something half our division doesn’t lol.

27 Feb 2018 18:36:57
Only way retention happens is if Vegas steps in to take it lol ottawa has no need to retain any of his contract.

24 Feb 2018 22:35:03
Isles: Clutterbuck,Pulock,Dal Colle,1 rd pick(cal)

Mtl: Patches,3 rd pivk 2019

25 Feb 2018 00:45:04
Deff not your worst proposal fake Colt.

25 Feb 2018 07:26:16
dal colle is a bust let's be honest, we are good for rhd so don't need pulock, and you are funny if you think we are giving a great player and a 3rd for a cap dumb a bust a bottom pairing d and a late pick hahahahaha no.

25 Feb 2018 07:35:36
Still. not his worst., maybe a lil light.

24 Feb 2018 13:34:53
To Winnipeg

Nick Leddy
Brock Nelson

To Islanders

Toby Enstrom
Micheal Hutchinson
Marco Dano
2nd round 2018
4th round 2019

24 Feb 2018 14:02:54
Islanders are not getting enough. Why would they part ways with Leddy? And for that price?

24 Feb 2018 16:08:38
None of that is appealing to isles to lose 2 good players. Hutch is barely an upgrade on what they have if at all, Dano had potential but when a guy in his early 20s on his 3rd and 4th team and hasn’t put it all together yet, you have to start assuming he never will, and 2 picks late in the 2nd and 4th round for a top 6 forward and a top 4 D lol

Greiss, Ross Johnston, 2nd and 4th

For

Little and Morrisey?

24 Feb 2018 19:30:30
May as well ask for laine too if you're going to ask for stupidity. No way jets part with their number 2 center and number 1 LHD not when they are in a run fpr the playoffs and 1st in their division.

24 Feb 2018 21:02:43
@nhlfan4life. That’s the point lol I was being sarcastic in comparing the deal. Y would islanders trade a top 6F and a top 4 D for a back up goalie, a bust of a prospect a 2nd and 4th if jets wouldn’t do the same?

24 Feb 2018 22:32:37
Lol. he must be new here Jim.
NHLFan. are ya New.? If so, we can tell ya who is legit and who are silly asses lol.

25 Feb 2018 12:05:28
Islanders not trading their best defenseman for a downgrade. They have enough problems on the back end.

23 Feb 2018 15:55:17
NYI Patrick Maroon

Edm Flames 2018 1st



Winnipeg Patches

Montreal 2018 1st 2018 5th(Bos) & Josh Morrisey

23 Feb 2018 16:17:59
You nuts? Winnipeg is already weak on the left side of the Defence. Why would they trade their best LHD?

23 Feb 2018 17:44:43
maroon isn't getting a first.

23 Feb 2018 18:14:11
Jets don't need Patches and Montreal doesn't have the assets required to land Morrissey.

23 Feb 2018 19:03:18
Wow that's incredible I could have sworn I saw the same poster claim that GM's were no longer trading 1st round picks for rentals. I guess that does not apply when it's the team you're a fan of.

No bias there.

23 Feb 2018 20:26:48
Nothing applies the same to oilers as anyone else. Get used to that @Unsportsmanlike.

 
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