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21 Sep 2017 03:45:10
What would it take for Pittsburgh to get Barzal
He's a pass first guy
Imagine him feeding Kessel the puck on the third line

Maybe Barzal for Pouliot, Sprong, Jarry,1st
NYI can use the pieces to get Duchene
An overpayment from Pittsburgh?

Thoughts?

21 Sep 2017 04:23:09
Pouliot & Sprong would get it done you'd think

21 Sep 2017 05:47:02
Dont think NYI are intrested in trading Barzal at all or else he would of been traded to the Avs in a Duchene trade by now.

21 Sep 2017 14:35:42
If Tavares leaves, he's their only hope at a top line guy right now.

21 Sep 2017 17:10:51
I like Barzal, but I don't like him that much. He fell to them in his draft and has huge upside. And as stated above if Tavares leaves he is what they fall back on.

21 Sep 2017 17:16:02
Ya Isles would have to wait and see what Tavares does before considering anything involving Barzel.

18 Sep 2017 13:35:56
mtl: shaw+ 2nd
nyi : Nelson.

18 Sep 2017 19:53:24
Lol no from NYI come on.

18 Sep 2017 21:49:00
The habs are stuck with shaws contract, can't see anyone taking it off their hands.

09 Sep 2017 15:54:23
To ottawa : Tavares

To nyi : white, dzingle, a 1st in 2018, and a 3rd in 2019

Isles get a top 6/ 9 speedy forward who's young enough to get better yet, a couple high picks in up coming drafts, and an elite level prospect to boot for a superstar who by the looks of it, doesn't intend to re-sign anyway.

Justification

Last 2 kessel trades, spezza trade, hall trade, etc. This is a bigger return than all of those for a guy who remains unsigned. Nyi I gets valuable assets instead of losing him for nothing while ottawa lands that superstar center to play with E. K. and the boys.

09 Sep 2017 16:13:11
Other teams will have better to offer.

09 Sep 2017 17:35:23
Man come on no from isles 🙄 Bruh.

09 Sep 2017 20:55:42
How bout Byron + Hudon + 3rd for Karlson.

09 Sep 2017 21:44:02
Who would be coming off Ottawa's books to afford this player? Or is this strictly a trade to acquire a rental and that's all? Either way, not believable for either team.

10 Sep 2017 14:02:09
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha is this a joke do you really think those two from ottawa are nhlers go back to watching figure skating.

19 Sep 2017 04:56:43
Who's coming off the books for ottawa? Did you really just ask that lol? Neil methot stalberg kelly etc free up more than enough space on their own let alone the space they still have from last season and the fact MacArthur will be back on ir they could litterally afford Tavares and duchesne if they really wanted to.

And dzingle is already a top 6 forward on most teams while white is an elite prospect with top 6 maybe even top 3 potential plus 2 picks including a 1st, I'd say that's pretty generous for a guy who will most likely let his contract run out and test free agency before he resigns with the islanders in which case they will get nothing for him anyway lol. Maybe ottawa throws in Ceci under the condition that Tavares signs long term (4 or more years) .

06 Sep 2017 20:17:16
MTL : Pacioretty

NYI : Tavares

06 Sep 2017 20:56:24
Montreal wishes lol.

06 Sep 2017 21:49:23
Come on lol people are saying unbelievable to galchenyuk, 2decent prospects and 2 high picks. And you think a single winger that's older than Tavares is going to cut it? Pacioretty is a good player, and a great bargain for another year or two while on that contract, but he wouldn't be near the best player on most teams in the league. Tavares would immediately become the best player on 80% of the teams in the league of traded there.

07 Sep 2017 00:35:52
Troll.

07 Sep 2017 00:55:35
Not even close.
Maybe Patches
Juulsen
1st Round 18
1st round 19.
Lindgren or Mcnevin?

Dont think that would do it either. But a little better than a straight swap.

07 Sep 2017 01:08:23
I wish lmao. Not even close.

07 Sep 2017 01:29:00
typical montreal go find another league maybe mexico.

06 Sep 2017 04:54:50
Colorado:
Ben Smith RW
Connor Carrick D
Eric Fehr RW
4th 2019

Toronto:
3rd 2018
3rd 2020

N.Y. Islanders:
James van Riemsdyk LW

Toronto:
1st 2019
2nd 2020 (conditional if he resigns)

Colorado:
1st 2018
Noah Juulsen D
Alex Galchenyuk RW

Montreal:
Matt Duchene C
3rd 2019

06 Sep 2017 05:11:18
Colorado is trying to collect young assets. Trading 2 picks for 3 players (one of which they placed on waivers last year) doesn't really make sense.

JVR should only be traded for a good upgrade on D in my opinion. If they can't get a Good young D for him I think they will keep him for the playoff run and depending on his demands, possibly re-sign him.

Earlier I would have said habs add, but the longer this duchene thing plays out, that might be the best they get. I'd say the 3rd going back to the habs might not happen though.

06 Sep 2017 11:34:30
The RW behind Galchenyuk shows your resignation about him😂.

02 Sep 2017 04:23:32
Ok not sure if this is fair but since Barzal isn't really proven in the NHL.

Montreal trade- Galchenyuk, 2018 1st, 2018 2nd, jordie benn.

Islanders trade- Barzal, De haan

02 Sep 2017 14:10:23
get rid of the 1st and ya.

03 Sep 2017 01:30:42
In 3 years Barzal will be better then Chucky, also don't think Isles can afford to move Barzal if they can't sign Tavares. No one else in their system has 1C upside.

03 Sep 2017 22:23:28
Ya easy no from Islanders.
You take out the 1st and they laugh at you.

04 Sep 2017 00:14:39
I honestly don't know enough about Barzal, is he really going to be that good. from my standpoint, it seems like a big overpayment from Habs for an unproven player. but If he is going to be that good, then ya, No from NYI. who would you guys say he is comparable to?

04 Sep 2017 02:57:55
^ He might turn out to be the next Ryan strome u never know that's why unproven players don't hold as much value.

05 Sep 2017 10:27:32
No from Montreal and I love Barzel he's unproven one of those players where he has more value to the organization then to the league. Could be a bust or he could be great.

06 Sep 2017 16:40:56
Barzal's numbers in junior are pretty similar to Galchenyuks. Why overpay for an unproven offensive talent when you already have one 3 years older with a 30 goal season under his belt. People undervalue Galchenyuk so much around here.

29 Aug 2017 01:12:41
Apparently, according to Mike Bossy, Tavares turned down his contract extension (84M$).

NYI:
John Tavares

MTL:
Alex Galchenyuk
Brendan Gallagher
2nd round pick (2018)
2nd round pick (2019)
Conditional 1st round pick 2019 (If Tavares resigns with MTL)

29 Aug 2017 14:40:47
I'm a die hard jabs fan and you will more than likely have to throw Noah juulsen and it would be a sign and trade for sure Montreal would t give up that much without knowi he's signing or not.

29 Aug 2017 14:42:15
Throw in juulsen and switch 2nd for first and it would have to be sign trade for Montreal to give up that much.

29 Aug 2017 19:19:47
Deffinetly a lot to give up. As for adding Juulsen, i'd do my best not to add him. no he's not going to be a superstar. But Habs need all the defensive prospects they need. He will be a solid but not spectacular top 4 IMO.

29 Aug 2017 22:30:28
Tavares is great but he's not worth all that. Especially with the money he will demand. Habs would have to pay him as much as price. So you'd have three players making 30 mil?
Plus why would he want to go to mtl. They will be in full rebuild mode in 2-3 years if that.

30 Aug 2017 08:04:25
I'd rather Tavares go to a team like the Canes or Blue Jackets who have actually built properly unlike the Islanders.

30 Aug 2017 14:43:28
Montreal would be a great fit for Tavares as much as I hate it from a leafs fan. Championships are built off a great goalie, a stud D and a legit top center. That would give habs all of that. As for the money, I've said it before that going forward, every team is going to be paying their best three players 25-30 mill, just reality now. Some teams are going to pay 3 forwards 25+ mill and still have glaring holes in net and on the blue line. Theirs would be 28 mill in the best goalie in the league, a 27 year old superstar center, and a beast of a number 1 Dman who is one of the best leaders in the game. Not a bad way to do it.

30 Aug 2017 16:13:15
I like the way u put it Jim.

30 Aug 2017 18:56:32
Thanks Sosa. Ppl got to get past the 10 million dollar player thing because like it's been pointed out, Crosby percentage wise was making the same as mcdavids 12.5 mill. So if penguins had sid, malkin (making even more than sid) and still had letang, fleury, Neal (then hornquist) Kessel etc etc then it can be done. Who wouldn't like their team to have pens success over the past decade? Giving players 10 mill isn't the problem, giving the wrong players that money will kill you tho. I think price and Tavares are about the safest bets you can make to give that kinda cash to at this point.

30 Aug 2017 23:32:34
That didn't actually happen no numbers have been discussed.

31 Aug 2017 13:47:03
Depends who you read. Some say numbers weren't discussed, some say numbers came up but weren't the reason for him rejecting. It could have been 12 mill per, but he isn't signing it till they sort out some other things. Could be wrong but I don't buy for a second that you're a cpl weeks away from camp of the final year of your captain/ best players contract, you have been eligible to give him an extension for 3 months and numbers haven't even been discussed at all. I know it's the islanders lol but doesn't seem possible to me.

31 Aug 2017 17:06:21
There is ZERO chance this happens unless there is an agreement before hand that J. T. signs, and does so simultaneously. And relax, you don't need to through in Juulsen. This is a solif trade for both teams without Juulsen or the 1st rounder.

03 Sep 2017 14:54:25
After that trade
Price
for
Eberle
1st-2019
1st-2020
DeHaan
Ladd

Sounds stupid, doesn't it. just like the one up top.

29 Jul 2017 03:12:23
Huge trade

NYI: Tavares, Leddy, Halak, 3dround

MTL: Galchenyuk, McNiven, Scherbak, Juulsen, 1stround, 2dround

Guys I know I'm out of my mind but any thoughts

29 Jul 2017 04:46:23
Well for one, Tavares would have to be signed. we don't need Halak at all.
Islanders would want more roster ready peices to go with Galchenyuk. as Chucky is the only established player going the other way, none of the other peices are guaranteed to make the NHL. I don't really see any deal to be made for Tavares. it would be great, but Galchenyuk is probably only tradeable piece Habs have atm, and they don't have enough peices to add to him to pry Tavares outta Brooklyn.

29 Jul 2017 05:33:15
Sosa pretty much says it all. Anyone that trades a 26 year old franchise centre, better have a lot more guarantees coming back. No one wants to be the next mike O'Connell. If you are asking who that is, exactly my point. He's the GM that traded joe Thornton for Marco sturm, Wayne primeau and brad stuart. The game is not forgiving to guys that make those deals. If the isles knew he wasn't coming back, then fine. But if there's a chance he stays, it's too soon to take a deal like this.

29 Jul 2017 15:32:47
I'm ok with this trade, I see two problems, one the Habs can not give up another young d-man, second salary CAP issues, if the trade happens, losing two 30-40 scorer, in the next few year, one by trade this year, and Habs will not be able to sign Max, and lost him in 2018/ 19 season with Price 10.5 mil, Weber 7.8 mil and Tavares between 10-12 mil, unless the cap goes way up, so heres my thought, Pacioretty, Pelkenic, Shaw, Davidson,2018 1st rounder,2018 2nd rounder,2019 3rd rounder, for Tavares, Leddy, halak, , I look at this as coldly as a habs fan can, this would give the habs a very good center line, Tavares c1. live with Galchenyuk mistake as c2., Danault c3,Mitchell or Mccarron c4.

29 Jul 2017 15:42:41
No greg. No.

29 Jul 2017 15:55:33
I'm ok with this trade ; see two problems with this trade, one is cap space taking 14.5 mil of islander salary cap hit, second is the lost of two 30 plus goal scorers in the next couple of year, one by traded this year, Galcheyuk and is salary is already accounted for til the 2020, and Pacioretty, because with this trade you will not have the cap space to sign him 2019, so here my trade, Pacoiretty, Pelkenic, Shaw or Gallagher, but would want to keep Gallagher, Carr and Davidson,1st rounder 2018,2nd rounder 2018, 3rd rounder 2019, for Tavares, Halak, Leddy . As a habs fan I tried to look at by the numbers.

29 Jul 2017 19:13:59
I get that you looked at the numbers., however not sure it all works out that way. but seriously I can't see it. and why in Earth would we want Halak? Montoya is a decent enough backup. Lindgren can be number 3. no need for Halak.
Yes Tavares and Leddy would be great for the Habs, but as much as I like to dream, reality kicks in and I jus don't see it happening. and as for trading Pacciorety., with his contract, we need to keep him, come deadline time, with his pending free agency. well could be a good way to stock the bare prospect cupboard when the time comes. 35 goal scorers don't come much cheaper.

29 Jul 2017 23:39:14
So you want Tavares and Leddy who are both 26 for Patches who is 28 Pelkaec who is 32 and a bunch of crap. Wow. That is something. How about Tevares for Galchenyuk and 2 first round picks.

30 Jul 2017 06:18:35
I'm ok with this trade, I see two problems, one the Habs can not give up another young d-man, second salary CAP issues, if the trade happens, losing two 30-40 goal scorer in the next few year, one by trade this year, and Habs will not be able to sign Max, and lost him in 2019 season with Price 10.5 mil, Weber 7.8 mil and Tavares between 10-12 mil, unless the cap goes way up, while Galchenyuk salary is already accounted for til 2021, so heres my thought, Pacioretty, Pelkenic, Shaw or Gallagher, but i really want to hang on to Gally if posible, Davidson, 2018 1st rounder,2018 2nd rounder,2019 3rd rounder, for Tavares, Leddy, halak, , I look at this as non homer as a habs fan can, this would give the habs a very good center line, Tavares c1. live with Galchenyuk mistake as c2., Danault c3,Mitchell or Mccarron c4.

30 Jul 2017 17:42:30
I'm taking Halak for Pelk, saving 1.5 mil, which is the difference between Pac and Tavares, sending halak to ahl til Habs trade him (MISTAKE FOR MISTAKE ) and his contact end at the end of the year, next The only forward (wing) more producive then Pac is OV especially 5 on 5 plus he would be going closer to home, so I'm trading my best forward for yours, I've add either Shaw or Gallagher, a young dman whom at one time was consider the future for Edmonton, plus a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and a 3 round pick the following year, building the trade this way would leave the habs about 4-5 mil to settle the Tavares, and have a pretty good Ideal what the team should look like for the next 3-4 years.

30 Jul 2017 19:42:49
Well Greg. anytrade for Tavares would have to involve both Galchenyuk and Sergachev. oh crap, we don't have him anymore. so. Isles say no. if they trade Tavares, there will be many teams that can offer a way more attractive offer than Habs can.

30 Jul 2017 19:43:29
Greg, oilers had 4 1st overall picks, plus Eberle, nurse, pajarvi etc as first rounders in the last 10 years. Brandon Davidson was NEVER 'the future of the oilers' lol that's a new one.

30 Jul 2017 23:18:50
Sorry forgot a word, the future on d, before Nurse was ready, next according to NHL tonight and onther such show, Pac is a top 2-3 winger in the NHL just behind OV, so I'm not starting with crap, I throw in a Shaw or Gallagher, Davidson as a young D 1ST AND 2ND rounder,2019 draft, 3rd in 2020, I could up the draft pick to a first rounder if they leave GALLAGHER ONLY, the reason I'M USING Pac instead of CHUCKY IS IT GIVES ME A YEAR.

31 Jul 2017 02:01:33
Umm i'd say Benn, Kane would have as well as a few others are ahead of Patches. Laine will surpass him this year as well. don't get me wrong, i'm a huge Pacioretty fan. and aI also think there are quite a few ahead of Ovi as top winger in the game.

31 Jul 2017 12:00:29
Greg is a homer, end of story,

01 Aug 2017 04:35:06
I am a homer, I love Benn, and like Kane, but Pac's number are just as good, But here's my problem must of you, always put Habs Players down, when Shaw was with the Hawks, he was the greatest thing sinces slice bread, now his crap, I am be a homer, but I do think must of you just pou pow on Habs and there player, W. H. Y? They haven't won a coup 23 years, and they still have 11 more coup then the next closest team,

01 Aug 2017 08:03:14
Lol. Too funny.

01 Aug 2017 15:15:42
Greg.? Are you Montreal finest? Did u take some English classes. anyway, as a Habs fan myself, i'm a homer as well. But to put Patches on same level as Benn and Kane, I feel is a little crazy. as for someone like say Shaw. The Hawks used him as a role player, and he flourished in that role. our team, and us fans, seem to overvalue him and ecpect more of him than what he really is. i'm not saying you, but people expect this guy to be a top 6, 20 goal man year in and year out. We overvalue our players, yes Patches is good, but not Kane good. or Benn ect. the only player we can overvalue is Price. cause well, he's Priceless to our team. only thing that pisses me off about Price, is he's so good that we lost out on chances for McDavid, Eichel, Mathews Laine. ect. cause that's who the Canadiens are without him. a lottery team.

01 Aug 2017 16:57:23
ok I unstand about Shaw, but I wonder if you understand my point, According Nhl tonight (steve Week, and others) in the pass 5 years only one winger has more 5 on 5 goal than Pac and he is OV now I personally haven"t sat there and did the math, BUT I'm using a statement of a paid Pro, that made this comment on tv, so based on that comment Pac (lol) is better tha Kane and Benn, there are all elite player, personally Benn is the best off them, then it OV, KANE, PAC at this time, so I don't upset anyone . When I started this , to get Tavares, Habs needed to start with and elite player next, Pac and Tavares contacts end in the same year I'm sure the Habs will not be able to sign both of them in the same year, so if a kept Galchenyuk, I'LL have one extra year, either the cap goes up, or the new cba will allow team to have one franchise player who's salary dose not count on the cap, or to trade him (Chucky), note sosahabs24 you have spelling and grammar mistake to right back at you!

01 Aug 2017 18:00:27
Ya my typing skills are lovely there English professor Greg.
Anyway, this is getting kinda stupid and drawn out. I don't see us getting Tavares. yes Patches is good.
If we get Tavares, then great.

01 Aug 2017 18:03:14
Greg. your probably new here, had nothing to do with your English grammer ect. jus our one time "Great Leader" the legend known as MontrealFinest. you guys have some similarities.

02 Aug 2017 00:00:27
I'm on and off this for years when I in country, I do not pretend to be a professor, but I do not throw stone at other first, this forum is about meeting other, who loves hockey, just like yourself, this sit is about ( What if's, could bes, and wishfull thinking) , not one's wrong or right, because in the end, all it is about people exchanging ideal, now I come from a hockey family, on both side some play and played in the NHL, many were scouts, one is still a coach, and one is just starting his career in the NHL, me, I had a cup of coffee, it was not in the cards but hockey was a big part of my life from 3 years old til 46 years, the last injury stopping from playing, so this is it now,

02 Aug 2017 01:39:50
K buds. Your taking it a lil too personally.

02 Aug 2017 02:30:42
Who did you play for greg?

14 Jul 2017 14:39:30
Duschene Trades

COL: Duschene
NYI: Barzal, Pulock, 1st Round Pick 2018 (CGY)

COL: Duschene
CLB: Murray, PLD

COL: Duschene
CAR: Pesce, Fluery, Gauthier

COL: Duschene
NSH: Fabbro, Fiala, 1st Round Pick 2018

14 Jul 2017 15:17:52
All of those are an overpayment for Duchene. He's a good player, but not worth that - at least I wouldn't pay that. Sakic has set the bar too high.

14 Jul 2017 17:05:04
Why can't anyone spell Duchene lol however I think those are all quality offers for him.

14 Jul 2017 17:05:22
But I can't see the other teams giving up that much for him.

14 Jul 2017 17:09:19
The Caroline trade is the biggest joke.

14 Jul 2017 07:08:43
Vancouver: Mathew Barzal

NY Islanders: Chris Tanev, Jordan Subban.

14 Jul 2017 07:33:07
No from the Isles.

13 Jul 2017 15:31:04
3 Team Trade
T.O-Van-NYI

Van gets-HoSang.J, Pulock.R
T.O gets Tanev.C
NYI gets JVR

Islanders get extra scoring to help convince Tavares to resign
Canucks get 2 good prospects to help the restock(rebuild)
Leafs get a good shut down dman

Leivo.J, Marincin.M
for
Morin.S, 4th DP

Resign
Brown.C 2 yrs - $3mil

Lupul.J, Horton.N on LITR

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Hyman

Gardiner-Zaitsev
Reilly-Tanev
Hainsey-Carrick

13 Jul 2017 16:08:53
The islanders get hosed in this trade and take more then jvr to get tanev.

13 Jul 2017 20:03:20
Lol at the islanders giving up pulock and ho sang for JVR. Not a chance especially when he has 1 year left.

13 Jul 2017 20:14:40
Needs wise it works all the way around. But isles isn't paying that for jvr without an extension in place at a good number.

14 Jul 2017 00:58:04
Pretty awful for islanders.

14 Jul 2017 07:34:53
gotta be a nucks fan. BJ?

12 Jul 2017 01:51:16
Edm- draisatl
NYI- taveres

Taveres wants to win and Edmonton is a contender. He'll probably get s bit more money than drai but maybe he takes a discount to play on a good team. Islanders could lose taveres for nothing to free agency, this way they get a very capable younger top tier center to replace taveres. Also both players go to different conferences so they won't play each other often. Then;

Edm-RNH
Carolina- McKeown

Edmonton gains cap space while also gaining a good RHD pick moving def man. Strome slots in as 3rd line centre. Carolina gets a very good centerman that can push the offence who also plays good defensively. They can also afford his contract while giving up defence prospect who is further down in their defence latter.

How'd I do?

12 Jul 2017 02:59:21
Uhhhh pretty horrible actually. First trade obvious no from Edmonton from age difference (I do love Tavares but no way that works) . Carolina trade is pathetic for Edmonton :/ come on you literally say why it's brutal for oil to make it.

12 Jul 2017 03:48:50
RHN for McKeown is almost as laughable as The Taveres deal .

13 Jul 2017 02:03:52
RNH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>X100 over who? lol

tavares value (not skill) >>>> over draisaitl

Edmonton loses sooooo much value.

14 Jul 2017 04:35:59
Tavares with contract>>Drais. Drais>>>Tavares without contract.

14 Jul 2017 04:59:18
Even if the draisatl trade couldn't happen why would you want to pay 6 million for RNH to play 3rd line centre when they have a much cheaper fully capable Strome to fill that role? Isn't that what Edmonton wants/ needs is a RH puck
Moving defence? Just cause McKeown isn't at the top of carolinas loaded defence pool doesn't mean he has no value and I guess it's just my opinion and probably a similar opinion of most non Edmonton fans that RNH isn't going to fetch you as much as you Edmonton fans think given his salary and production. If NH was traded for a d man who do you honestly think you're going to get for him?

14 Jul 2017 06:18:21
Obvious no from the Islanders. 26 year old Tavares has led that team and averages close to a point a game even though he has little support unlike Drai. He would light it up to a whole new level in Edmonton. I'm sure the Oil would love to dump Nuge but they may find offense a little tougher to come by this year.

14 Jul 2017 13:57:09
Remember when Taylor hall was traded for Larson and all oilers fans were pissed cause they got ripped off and now Larson is arguably their best defenceman and oikers fans on this website are suddenly high on Larson and think he's the greatestt. Point is RNH doesn't have as much value as hall, I guarantee you oilers fans that if he goes get traded the return won't be as good as you think. RNH is expendable do they're dealing out of strength to get something they need. a pick moving RH d man, which McKeoen is. Just because McKeown isn't st the top of a defence pool that is loaded doesn't mean he isn't good or will be good. Carolina could add a 2nd to sweeten the deal. Point is it's 2 teams dealing outta strengths to solve needs. Not to mention that trading NH they'll gain cap room after signing drais.

12 Jul 2017 01:49:38
Edmonton-draisatl
Islanders -taverese

Traverse wants to win, Edmonton Is a contender also gets him out of the east so they're not playing against him often and he could be extended for not much more than draisatl wants. Gives Edmonton a proven 1-2 punch. New York gets a younger top centerman to build around who can contribute now and for the future.

Edmonton then trades RNH to Carolina for MCKeown. Edmonton gains cap space to sign taverese, gives strome the opportunity to play 3rd line centre and gives Edmonton s RH puck moving defencemen that in a couple years could be top 4. Carolina gets a very good centerman that's young and that they can afford.

12 Jul 2017 08:56:46
who is t (r) averese is he any good?

12 Jul 2017 01:37:19
Nyi- taverese
Edm- draisatl

One for one trade. Islanders clearly aren't winning any time soon so this gives them a younger impact centerman to build around. Edmonton get top centerman who they could re sign for close to what draisatl is going to want. That gives Edmonton a proven 1-2 punch (possibly better than Crosby/Malkin) which gives them more depth for the playoffs.

12 Jul 2017 15:34:05
Umm I think McDavid, Draisaitl combo would be better than McDavid Tavares.

14 Jul 2017 12:11:17
I think Edmonton adds. Maybe toss in a goalie prospect.

09 Jul 2017 21:25:18
Habs and Islanders talking.

Could it be a Galchenyuk, tavares swap?

Galchenyuk, Sherbak, Lindgren 1st 2019, Conditional 2nd 2018 (turns to a 5th if Galchenyuk scores more than 60 points) for Tavares, conditional 4th ( becomes a 3rd if Tavares scores less than 60 points)

09 Jul 2017 21:32:57
Tavares won't get traded.

simple.

09 Jul 2017 21:41:25
If their talking then it's not about Tavares, at least not yet. It's way too early, Islanders are still talking extension with Tavares and they traded for Eberle with the purpose of giving Tavares a scoring winger to help him.

As for the deal you proposed, I don't think that gets Tavares. Even as a rental, his cost will be the highest compared to other rentals traded at deadline.

Also not sure how high the Islanders are on Lindgren or Scherbak. Plus it all depends on what direction the Islanders want to go. If they want to go rebuild then they move Tavares for the largest amount of young players, prospects and high draft picks or they will keep Tavares and push for the playoffs.

It's not quite certain one way or the other. That's what I know.

09 Jul 2017 23:58:09
Then if Habs could resign Tavares, that would be pretty much 30 million for him, Price and Weber. I can't see it.

10 Jul 2017 01:55:56
I don't see it happening either but as for the money factor, most good teams are going to have near $30 mill in their top 3 players going forward. Just the way the money is being spent. If you're going to pay 3 players that kinda money I think the best goalie in the world, a horse of a #1 Dman and legit superstar centre is the way to do it.

10 Jul 2017 02:34:18
Hope it's DeHaan.

10 Jul 2017 16:52:58
I do agree with that Jim, my only problem is paying Weber that amount. he's already starting to slow. so in like 2 years, we are going to need another 7 to 9 million dman. hmm. we had one at the right age. If it was still PK., i'd be all over it.

10 Jul 2017 21:06:03
Don't worry Sosa habs are deep in defense prospects. a couple of those guys will make the team in a couple years. have faith man.

11 Jul 2017 00:27:16
Hab, who? After Juulsen. I don't really see any potential top 4 guys. we were OK with Sergachev. I obviously don't follow the prospects enough. But no one really stands out for me.

11 Jul 2017 00:55:29
i hope not galchenyuk will score 30 to 40 goal a year, if you could trade for a c1 or good centerman , again calling peter and saying trade plek for rnh, or I'll summit and offer sheet of 7.5-8 mill to daisaitl, your choice.

11 Jul 2017 01:57:32
Sosa we'll they do have a guy named victor mete who outplayed vancouvers 5th overall choice from last year. simon bourque Brett Lernout Arvid hendrikson nick koberstien plus the 4 defenseman they drafted this year just to name a few. probably no drew doughty in the bunch but I think it's safe to assume at least a couple of those guys will slot into the future top six. mete and juulsen both have potential to be top 4 IMO at this point I would say mete is probably slightly better.

12 Jul 2017 01:19:51
As I say with every Tavares proposal: they just traded for Eberle to give their franchise player a legit winger. They aren't trading Tavares anytime soon.

25 Jun 2017 19:05:53
Sign Galchenyuk to 5 year 5.5 mil per
Sign Radulov 5 year 6 mil per

MTL: Galchenyuk, Radulov, 2018 1st
NYI: Tarvares

Is that enough for Tarvares or what need to be added?

25 Jun 2017 20:38:01
Can't see why islanders would do that.

25 Jun 2017 20:54:00
I agree they can sign Radulov for free in like a week and they won't get Tavares for Galchenyuk a rn a 1st.

26 Jun 2017 09:01:21
Yeah so the Isles make all those moves for Tavares, just to trade him shortly after with the return being a UFA they could simply sign themselves.

24 Jun 2017 14:28:32
To Oilers: Hammonic
To Islanders: Nurse

24 Jun 2017 16:01:23
If I was edm I would keep nurse you need a young strong nasty dman in the west.

24 Jun 2017 16:57:24
Would take quite a bit more from edm.

24 Jun 2017 17:00:28
Hamonic traded for 1st and 2 2nd.

23 Jun 2017 00:41:13
Based on a Bob McKenzie Tweet
"More likely than not EDM Trades Ederle and MIN trades a D-Man"

NYI - Jordan Ederle, Greg Chase, 22nd and 84th Overall
EDM - Travis Hamonic, Anthony Beauviller, 46th and 77th Overall

MTL - Marco Scandella (15% Retained)
MIN - Zachary Fucale

Reasonings:

NYI - New York recently traded their first off to ensure that Vegas takes Grabovski, so if Oilers put that first in their basically moving down to keep Grabovski. Also Eberle/ Duchene talks have been heating up with Snow so we know Snow is interested. And as for Chase, he's basically a place holder for Beauviller in the AHL. He has promise putting up point for game numbers playing first line with McDavid on pre season. Also has potential to be the next Frederick Gaudreau if you will (unexpected breakout star)

EDM - Edmonton finally gets Hamonic who've they have been in trade discussions to get him since last season. Plus Beauviller who Edmonton has as well expressed interest in, which in turn in prospect wise takes over the 1st round pick's value. And now Edmonton has 2 2nd's and has 2 3rd's which they moved up with one of them. They can either acquire a lower first or keep those picks. And Edmonton isn't in dire need of 1st round prospects for that matter



MIN - Trading Scandella was basically set in stone. With Brodin being the only possible option, Spurgeon being a no and Dumba too early in career. And to get someone like Fucale may be a risk but it can be worth it. Fucale who has been starting in the ECHL needs a fresh start, and to take a former second round draft pick off Montreal hands when his value is at an all time low is ideal for Minnesota. With a fresh start with Iowa Wild next season, he can be backing up Dubynk or even challenging for the starter role within the next year or so.

MTL - Montreal just Lot 2 defence off their top 6 plus a possible top 6 for next season in Sergachev, so they are in need for another defenceman. And it seems Bergevin has been busy on the phone so if they acquire Scandella (with cap retained) he can easily slot in where Beaulieu or Emelin was. And for trading Fucale, there is Charlie Lindgren that at the moment has more value, but for Montreal to trade off an ECHL starter shouldn't be a harm for them.

23 Jun 2017 01:05:24
Lol that Minnesota trade is brutal that's a huge yes from Montreal but never going to happen.

23 Jun 2017 01:24:50
I feel you put in way too much effort in this and the trade already happened lol that sucks.

23 Jun 2017 01:52:17
Well, clearly not. At least on the EDM/ NYI one.

23 Jun 2017 20:41:10
This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted on this site. Eberle was already traded and that's a huge overpayments and ohh my is that ever a brutal deal for Minnesota wow just wow Fucal is barely good enough to play in the AHL.

22 Jun 2017 18:16:19
NYI: Barzal, Dal Colle and Pulock/De Hann

Colorado: Duchene

Is this to much for Duchene? I'm a huge Barzal Fan, Dal Colle Is a huge wild card and Pulock will be atleast a good top 4 dman or De Hann is okay a good 4th dman definitely less valuable then Pulock.

22 Jun 2017 18:29:26
Seen this on a rumors page. I think its pretty close, maybe too much from Isles, but idk.

22 Jun 2017 18:45:53
Dal Cole hasn't done much, neither has pulock unfortuneately, but barzal has a nice future hopefully. I think Colorado does it for pulock included over de hann.

22 Jun 2017 17:36:56
Confirmed

Oil: Eberle

Isles: Strome

Wish edmonton got a little more but we lost a lot of cap space and gained a younger player.

22 Jun 2017 17:56:28
Don't tell FT4A. if he can't respond to every trade saying Eberle won't be traded, he really doesn't have much to say.

22 Jun 2017 18:00:15
Honestly.

I love it for Edmonton.

22 Jun 2017 18:01:47
I think losing the Cap and possibly opening up more playing time for Jesse p is important. Also allows EDM to get a better rental come playoffs.

By the way Congrats to EDM on first playoff birth in a decade.

22 Jun 2017 18:01:58
lol you're right Thunder Turkey.

22 Jun 2017 18:02:19
Oilers lost this trade 4 now.

22 Jun 2017 18:11:37
@Alikhan

How did we lose this trade?
We literally gave up a 6 million dollar player that like never scores and plays crap on defence without retaining anything. Opens up spot for Jesse P.
Strome can also score like 50 points for Edmonton. NYI just ruined him. Sent him down to the AHL like 3-4 times, publicly criticized the kid.

22 Jun 2017 18:19:02
It's humbling for FT4A, that's for sure. Maybe now after Hall, Yakupov and Eberle were traded for far less than he said they were worth, he can admit that RNH isn't worth top pair dmen ++. lol yeah right.

22 Jun 2017 18:47:13
Strome is younger, cheaper and also plays center. I think it's a good deal for Edmonton but still wish we got more.

22 Jun 2017 19:14:55
Because eberle only had one bad season and you guys could of got more but you are right that he's younger and that they needed the cap.

22 Jun 2017 21:39:45
Unbiased.
Nope. RNH is worth a top 4 +.

Hall trade Win BTW., .
Yak trade. brutal Loss
But Ebs. More than brutal. Stupidest trade in the history of the NHL! Even dumber than Gretzky .

Anyone but Strome would have been better. Troubled Kane, Pulock, Dal Colle, Hamonic, 4th round draft pick. Something anything with an upside would have been better than this soon to be AHL'er.

Snow's a smilin' today.
Calgary fans are a smilin' today.

Dark day for the Oilers franchise.

22 Jun 2017 00:45:50
Funniest thing I've read in a long time. Only because FT4A has bashed Strome repeatedly for months on this site and said Eberle was worth a lot more. Strome will now be an untouchable, top 6 forward worth the sun and moon. When I have time, I may have to even dig through the archives and pull up some FT4A quotes.

 
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