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17 Feb 2018 19:07:38
Col:Girard,Yakupov

Mtl:Chuck

Clost?

17 Feb 2018 21:06:52
Looked it up, clost is an anagram of colt. clever.

16 Feb 2018 18:03:54
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2018 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes get a much needed goalie and defensive prospect and Flames recoup a pick and take a chance on a gritty scoring LW

To MTL: Sam Bennett

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and a 5th round pick

Habs get a young centreman with upside and Flames get a RW with playoff experience

Flames new 3rd line:

Domi - Jankowski- Shaw

16 Feb 2018 21:56:55
Montreal would jump on that trade in a second.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:23
Oh lord huge no from Calgary on the second trade.
As for the first trade tho I think Arizona says no especially if they are adding a 2nd.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:33
But first is interesting!

17 Feb 2018 06:29:12
On the second trade, what if Montreal change the pick to their 2nd rounder?

17 Feb 2018 08:58:43
Like McJesus said definately no from Calgary in the second one but the first is interesting. I could see ARZ being interested in Gilles and Andersson but I think Calgary would need to give up a bit more.

17 Feb 2018 09:48:16
second trade is an no from calgary. but the first one is a starting point.

17 Feb 2018 18:36:47
Shaw is 26 and will be a cap charge of 3.9 for four more years (4,2.25,2.75,1.9) 10.9 in actual dollars. I don't think its a terrible contract, but the four years attached to him is concerning for other teams forsure. If the habs could retain some of his salary it might give him some value tho.

16 Feb 2018 16:00:26
Friday Funday..

Nashville Paccoretti

Montreal 2018 1st, 2018 4th & Fredrick Gaudreau.



Edmonton: Eckman Larson & Strome

Arizona: Adam Larsson & Strome

The Stromes and Larsson's swap..

16 Feb 2018 21:57:44
I wish from the oilers side, but never in a million years.

16 Feb 2018 21:59:33
So Arizona decides to downgrade why?

16 Feb 2018 22:12:47
Don’t know why Montreal takes first one
And easy no from Arizona, however, if they lose OEL for nothing we’ll they take a look at it. But Dylan Strome will not be part of the trade he’ll stay. But ya no from Arizona lol.

17 Feb 2018 08:59:39
OEL>Larsson, Dylan>Ryan. What?

17 Feb 2018 11:47:36
Look who the poster is TSS, that should answer your question.

17 Feb 2018 15:46:44
@Leafs17

true. true. lol.


'eBErLe is wORtH a fIrSt, rYaN sTroMe and tRavIs hAmOnIC'

Lmao, Ft4a whyd u change your name bud? lol.

16 Feb 2018 15:28:11
As a base :

OTT: Pageau

MTL: Galchenyuk

OTT probs adds . idk how much tho. let me know

16 Feb 2018 22:13:11
No idea why Montreal does that.

16 Feb 2018 21:58:27
Ottawa adds I think a 2nd rd pick.

16 Feb 2018 22:53:21
Cmon man add at least WHite or this is a no effort absurdity proposes by Ottawa.

16 Feb 2018 23:05:55
Why wouldn't they want a young C McJesus? I thought they were looking for exactly that .

17 Feb 2018 00:13:48
Why would they give up one of their “top forwards”.

17 Feb 2018 01:44:55
They want a young centre with top line potential. Pageau is a good player, a 3rd line centre, could be second line on some teams. They would rather a player less established than Pageau, but at least with the possibility and upside to be a top line centre. The galchenyuk for Reinhart one yesterday I found very interesting.

17 Feb 2018 02:59:58
Hahaha no from montreal pageau isn't what we want at least colin white or logan brown added to that.

17 Feb 2018 08:57:28
Ott adds big time. Pageau is older, smaller and has no offensive upside. I don't see why habs would even consider this trade.

17 Feb 2018 16:12:10
Just like to point out that i clearly said "as a base". obviously Ottawa adds .

16 Feb 2018 06:51:52
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes gain a much needed goalie prospect and a shutdown D Man. Flames recover a pick and take a chance on a scoring winger.

Followed by:

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and MTLs 5th rounder

To MTL: Sam Bennett

Habs get a young Centreman with upside. Flames get a gritty RW who can score

New Flames 3rd line

Domi - Jankowski - Shaw

17 Feb 2018 09:49:28
first one a starting point. second is a hell no from calgary.

16 Feb 2018 16:47:35
Mtl:Pacioretty,Plekanec,Lehkonen, 2nd/2018 (Washington)

Flo:Bjugstad,Borgstrom,1st/2018(draft protect) become 1st/2019 (non-protect)

16 Feb 2018 16:53:23
Nice try. Florida isn't trading their 1st for one year of Pacioretty.

16 Feb 2018 19:24:44
-Its so easy to sign Pacioretty right away (~7,5m/ 5-6 years) . He's going to be in love with Florida after all the big pressure of Mtl.

-Plekanec would be a realy nice addition as a third line center with experience but also realy good for defensive mission like 5 on 4.

-Lehkonen have a good potential. He's a realy good two way player with a good wrist shot.

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-Bjugstad is a big center, still young who score around 20-25 goals. But never develop as he was suppose to.

-Borgstrom is the big piece of that trade. He have a lot of potential, he have good hand and he's able to score but still he proved nothing yet in the Nhl.

-The first choice with the second 2018 Florida receive is nothing for Pacioretty. The only piece Florida lose in the line up is Bjugstad.

And look at the Florida lines.

Huberdeau-Barkov-Dadonov
Pacioretty-Trocheck-Malgin
Mccann-Plekanec-Lehkonen
Mcginn-Mackenzie-Sceviour

-Look realy good for the final push and next years! No?

-Mtl have what they crucialy need, depth at the center position.

16 Feb 2018 19:49:09
I want Montreal to keep lehkonen. He’s got lots of potential just hasn’t been able to find a groove with injuries and the lack of offensive centers.

16 Feb 2018 20:23:37
I agree! But you have to give if you went a good center and everybody know that Mtl need center, so.
Anyway mtl have a lot of wingers and I have more hope in Hudon or Sherback for there offensive potentiel than Lehkonen who's more defensive and need to improve offensive. Also Lehkonen have a better value I think.

15 Feb 2018 17:54:01
LA fires the first shot in the California trade war..


Ducks Pacoretti

Habs Nick Ritchie, Sam Steele, 2018 2nd


Sharks Nash

NYR Hertl, 2018 1st, 2018 4th.



And to keep pace in the arms race....

Dallas Hoffman

Ottawa 2018 1st, Faksa, Vala


Florida 2018 3rd 2019 4th

Calgary Vrbada

15 Feb 2018 19:32:50
Seems like a lot for Nash.

15 Feb 2018 19:55:20
Lol nash ainy getting that return.

15 Feb 2018 20:29:03
Hoff.
Yes it is, but I think there will be a bidding war for his services pushing up the usual price tag for a UFA rental.

15 Feb 2018 20:37:22
No shot Steele is involved in the deal for ANA. He is their future down the middle.

15 Feb 2018 22:43:54
Wouldn’t hold my breath for that kinda return if I was a Habs fan. I personally think they’d be lucky to get steel straight up for Pacioretty IF ducks even had interest in him. Not s chance ducks give both steel and Richie AND a second. not a chance. GM would be unemployed if he made that trade.

15 Feb 2018 23:11:14
Seems like big overpayments for all the guys. I don't think Flames need Vrbata.

15 Feb 2018 03:45:10
Galchenyuk foR reinhart
1 for 1

Montreal needs a center and Galchenyuk could change things around for Buffalo. I’d even add a 3rd going to buffalo.

15 Feb 2018 05:04:05
Not too bad. Galchenyuk to play on Eichels wing and Reinhart to play centre for Drouin. Possible that this creates a pretty good line for 2 different teams.

15 Feb 2018 05:34:10
Yeah and they’re quite similar, both drafted top 5, similar builds and stats. both need a change of scenery.

15 Feb 2018 15:21:51
I'd be all for it!

15 Feb 2018 16:12:49
Galchenyk is literally our best forward rn he's playing really well so nooo.

16 Feb 2018 00:08:29
@mtl4life. That’s the point, he has needed a change for a long time. He’s playing good right now so teams will be more inclined to trade a top prospect for him. Habs have tried to trade him multiple times and teams weren’t willing to pay. He’s playong well but he’s not turning this thing around for the habs. They’re done. Get a 21 year old centreman with a ton of upside and get on with it.

16 Feb 2018 03:24:55
not going to lie this is the best trade I've seen in a while but i still don't know.

14 Feb 2018 20:40:12
Mtl:Patches


Buff:Reinhart

Fair? Mtl get a 22 year old center who isn't living up to the expetatio of a #2 Overall but still very talented. Buff gets a great winger for Eichel and with Mittestad coming up then can afford to lose Reinhart.

14 Feb 2018 20:51:05
Habs lose here.

14 Feb 2018 21:13:32
Why the heck would Buffalo want one year of a IFA to be old winger? They laugh. Zero need or want for one year of Patches in Buffalo.

14 Feb 2018 23:01:06
What I mean by the Habs lose is that they could get a better return than Reinhart.

15 Feb 2018 01:41:26
Reinhart is crap that's it hell no from montreal.

15 Feb 2018 04:40:23
To you, everyone is crap but The Habs.

15 Feb 2018 05:02:12
Don’t think the value is bad. It’s a young centre who was projected to be a top line guy, still very young with upside. But just a terrible fit for Buffalo. They’re awful and don’t see pacioretty making them ‘not awful’ lol.

14 Feb 2018 05:03:33
Mtl trades Pacioretty(50%). 2018 2nd, 2018 4th.

nashville trades - eeli tolvanen, dante fabbro.

before anyone starts saying anything. pacioretty isn't a rental and he's on really good contract and mtl are keeping 50% of his contract and remember everyone what hanzal got 1st, 2nd, 4th.


then Mtl trades plekanec(50%), 2018 4th.

penguins trades 2018 2nd.


then Mtl drafts Tkachuk


Galchenyuk-Drouin-Sherback
Tolvanen-Tkachuck-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Danault-Byron
Deslauriers-Shaw-Hudon

Mete-Weber
Alzner-Petry
schlemko-fabbro

Benn

Price
lindgren

14 Feb 2018 05:18:44
Consider Nashville probably wants to go in I can see this trade but that is one steep price, so I also don’t see them making this.

14 Feb 2018 07:55:26
Nashville has got a young core so I can see them willing to give up 2 young promising pieces for a guy that has scored 30 plus goals the last few years.

14 Feb 2018 10:46:41
Both are top prospects, Habs would be lucky to get one of them, no chance they get both.

14 Feb 2018 13:14:25
If not gets both does guys for Patches that's a steal imo. But realisticly one of those prospect and a second or B prospect is fair. They are both A level prospect such is equal to a top rental but since Patches has another year left the second or B prsopect males it even I believe.

14 Feb 2018 15:47:12
the reasoning is that our 2018 second is almost like a late first, would it be more fair to add a 3rd on that which is close to a second.

14 Feb 2018 15:50:20
i remember when sherback wasn't a good skater now he's hella fast and and an amazing skater so vilardi will prob learn.

14 Feb 2018 16:07:56
Retaining 50% on patches ups his value so realistically he should get those 2 A prospects no problem. Imagine a 30 goal scorer for less than 2.5 million, not bad.

14 Feb 2018 18:52:24
I wouldn't give yo Tolvonen alone for Patches let alone adding Fabbro. Think of the age gap. Ten or so years of Tolvonen or one year of Patches. I'm going with Tolvo.

15 Feb 2018 22:08:57
U wouldn't trade tolvanen straight up for pacioretty?

Might wanna get that checked.

16 Feb 2018 01:07:24
I agree with yup, nashville definitely shouldn't trade tolvanen for a year and a half of old patches that they don't need.

16 Feb 2018 03:04:26
This is brutal for nashville. Maybe if Pacioretty was scoring like a 30 goal scorer would this make sense. but even still. Nashville top 2 prospects for one year of a a guy slumping is a huge no from the preds.
1St2018, 2nd 2019 plus aberg for pacioretty.

14 Feb 2018 03:02:30
Habs trade: Max Pacioretty (50% retained) Michael McNiven and 2019 5th and 6th round picks
LA trades: Adrian kempe, Gabriel Vilardi, 2018 3rd round pick and a conditional 2020 2nd round (if patches resigns with LA)

14 Feb 2018 04:22:43
imo a fair trade : pacioretty (50%), joni ikonen, 2018 4th.

for Vilardi, 2018 3rd.

TBH Vilardi is a top prospect.

14 Feb 2018 04:08:48
lol i wish.

14 Feb 2018 05:19:58
Vilardi can’t skate.

14 Feb 2018 07:57:03
Can’t you teach a player to skate? That’s what bo horvats weakness was when he got drafted but he’s improved a lot since then. IMO skating can still be taught but shooting and hands can’t be and his skating can be improved through lessons.

14 Feb 2018 12:45:09
Yeah, lots of players are drafted as weak skaters and have it worked on. For him to be ranked and picked as high as he was, scouts, coaches and gms must believe he will become a lot better skater.

13 Feb 2018 06:32:04
Mtl/habs patch 3 rd pick

Tamapa bay tyler johnson

13 Feb 2018 07:34:27
Bruh wtf.

13 Feb 2018 16:14:37
Makes no sense for habs. If they’re trading a really good goal scorer in his late 20s, why are they adding the pick and getting back a good C/ W with underwhelming #’s in the same age range? If they can’t get a package of picks and prospects, or a much younger C with Atleast an above average chance of becoming a first liner, they keep paccioretty.

13 Feb 2018 19:04:21
My guess would be because they have the same number of goals this year, so amazing goal scorer to underwhelming numbers seems like a bit of a stretch even taking into account who they play with. Johnson is 2 years younger, plays center, can anchor a pk unit and is signed long term. Not saying its a trade that would happen or its fair but that's likely the reasoning behind Montreal adding the pick.

13 Feb 2018 19:15:18
Cause johnson as 4 years left on his deal and is a much better overall player and a center.

13 Feb 2018 21:34:10
I didn’t mean it as a shot at Johnson. What I mean is that it’s not the type of deal habs would want at all. If they’re doing it for a player that much older than their target age (a centre for drouin to develop with) then I’d think it would have to be someone better than Johnson has been over the last cpl years. Patches is having a down year for sure, but Johnson had 2-3 down years after he set his career highs. I like his game, just don't see Habs wanting to add to their best player for a guy that while playing pretty well, is matching patches in a down year. Could be wrong tho.

13 Feb 2018 21:37:39
P. s I didn’t call patches “an amazing goal scorer” as you quoted me lol ovie is an amazing goal scorer. I said patches was a really good one which I stick by. Scoring between 30 and 40 every year is really good in the NHL.

14 Feb 2018 02:08:48
lol no from montreal.

14 Feb 2018 10:47:51
underwhelming numbers? Havent checked but fairly sure Johnson has better numbers this year than Patches, no?

14 Feb 2018 13:00:46
I’m not only talking about the last 50 last games lol read the whole post again. I said Johnson hasn’t been great since he set the bar really high. Has he played as well as patches this year, sure. But patches is having a bad year in his terms and Johnson put up 14g 24a ans then 19g26a in his last 2 seasons (while missing some games to be fair) but for a player that put up 72pts before that, and dominated the playoffs a few years ago, I call it underwhelming. 38 pts while missing 15 games is not 70+ pts. He’s on pace to be somewhere between his best and his last cpl seasons. I would not be happy if I was a habs fan and we traded our best player (not named price) and had to add assets to him to bring back a guy who has 4 years left, hasn’t been as productive as he should be in 2-3 years and has zero chance of being our long term big cente. He’s a good player, but if habs trade patches, they have to believe Atleast one piece is something they can build around. Don’t see Tyler Johnson as being any team in the leagues centrepiece.

14 Feb 2018 14:33:45
And I was going off brocks info that he was signed for 4 more years. He’s actually signed for 6 more after this year. Tampa will need to move that contract soon probably anyway and won’t get full value down the road. It’s not a bad cap hit at all but his $5 mill will be needed for kucherov and vasilevskiys massive raises.

14 Feb 2018 17:23:31
I haven't heard one thing from brock that's been accurate ever.

13 Feb 2018 03:51:20
Minnesota
Brodin
3rd

Montreal
Pacioretty
5thround pick.

13 Feb 2018 05:27:59
And you’re a habs fan? Montreal wants more and doesn’t want that. Well I’m sure they do but not the return they seek for patches.

13 Feb 2018 06:24:58
Helllllll nooooooo.

12 Feb 2018 21:34:23
Just a wild thought.

Montreal trades
Patches
Toronto trades
Bracco, Nielsson and 2 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Gardiner
New Jersey trade
Mccloud and 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Komorov
Colorado trades
3rd 2018

Waive Martin

12 Feb 2018 22:31:28
Don’t need a scoring winger in patches. That’s actually the last position leafs need help with, they actually have so much depth there that they already have guys asking for trades out.

You don’t trade a good top 4 Dmen for futures when you are entering the playoffs with a young team and you have no one for sure ready to assume that role.

Leafs are going to have to play Boston and/ or Tampa in best of 7 game series. We have loads of talent, but not many guys that are really hard to play against up front. If the return for a great penalty killing, hard nosed veteran forward who has played almost 20 minutes a night multiple times this season again teams top lines is a 3rd rounder, why the hell would you trade him?! Komarov has to stay unless a team that feels they’re a depth forward away from a cup wants to really over pay.

Waiving martin accomplishes nothing, Because his cap stays on the books anyway and no one will claim him.

13 Feb 2018 00:59:02
Why waive Martin tho.

13 Feb 2018 02:55:11
Hell no from mtl.

13 Feb 2018 18:26:30
Montreal hangs up the phone. after they are done laughing.

13 Feb 2018 21:35:37
Wow balsam, you didn’t even insult Marleau in that one. You’re growing lol.

14 Feb 2018 00:27:00
balsam only replies to leaf posts and it’s always something negative. It’s sad that the leafs have such terrible players yet do so well eh balsy?

12 Feb 2018 20:22:44
Marc bergevin has been seen with Chuck Fletcher this week and the wild is pushing for the playoffs so:

Mtl : Pacioretty, 2nd round pick, Daniel Carr
Min : Eriksson Ek, Olofsson, 1st round pick, 4th round pick

12 Feb 2018 20:58:59
If mtl don't trade this for Patches I would get mad. But it's also a risk because Erickson sign doing hot this year. He's should still be a top 6 tho that gets 50+ points. If so that would be more then fair.

12 Feb 2018 21:08:31
I think Coyle would be what Habs are interested in.

12 Feb 2018 21:44:51
Sosahabs, personally I would prefer Eriksson as I hope for a rebuild rather than a quick turn around.

12 Feb 2018 22:51:42
Couple is too old. If we're trading patches sits for a guy LIKE Erickson.

13 Feb 2018 11:28:50
So why would the wild do that? They have no cap space and giving up young players is stupid! And coyle is worth probably Pacioretty.

12 Feb 2018 12:56:21
Pitt:Sprong,Guvstavson(Goalie),Hall,1rd pick 2018

Mtl:Patches

Pitt are not scarred of trading for talented wingers and in this one they give decent accets o acquire a winger to play with either Crosby or Malkin.

12 Feb 2018 18:29:47
Maybe i'm wrong, but does pittsburgh even have the cap space to bring in patches with nothing going out?

12 Feb 2018 19:11:55
They definite do not have the cap space.

12 Feb 2018 21:10:28
Send back Hagelin and they can do it.

13 Feb 2018 16:16:23
I mean over payment by pens considering they need a centre.

11 Feb 2018 22:18:37
Mtl trades Max pacioretty(50% retained), charles Hudon.

STL trades Robert thomas, 2019 1st, 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd.

12 Feb 2018 00:44:12
Idk how open St. Louis would be to do that tbh. Sure the values there, but that means they give up four first round picks for Brayden Schenn and Max Pacioretty (Thomas was a 1st in 17). Idrk.

12 Feb 2018 02:33:40
Blues pass. no need for patches. No one would pay that price.

12 Feb 2018 02:38:51
Also who the hell wants hudon. Really guy.

12 Feb 2018 04:39:42
So redwing1 idk why u put your name that when u are a stl fan.

12 Feb 2018 14:00:34
I'm both. Born in Michigan moved to stl right about highschool. Friends are blues fans and redwing have been irrelevant for a few. But I have already explained this. Besides how many Detroit posts do you see on this boarD not many at all.

11 Feb 2018 16:36:43
CCY:Valimaki

Mtl:Patches

Mtl needs a good LHD prospect and CCY gets the best top line winger available. Fair?

11 Feb 2018 17:01:03
Habs are going to want more than a prospect. although he is a good one. so was Maata and Ninnama. ect. I wouldn't trade Patches for those guys.

11 Feb 2018 17:24:54
No no no no no and for the million time no.

11 Feb 2018 17:55:56
MTL4LIFE.
What would you like to see done with Patches? Do we keep him.? Try and re sign him. or do WE trade him. and what would you like to see come back.?
I personally would love to see Habs find him a center. but I don't think that is going to happen.
So if we could get that Finnish kid and say Jankowski or Bennett i'd be inclined to want that.
But i'm horrible at trades. so I'd like to see what some other Habs fans. (And others) think is the true value or right thing to do in this situation.

11 Feb 2018 19:17:27
Pacioretty isn't a rental first og all and he's on a good contract tbh we trade him to someone like stl blues and retain 50% on him we have way too much cap space and retaining 2.25mil isn't a lot for another year and a half


So some proposals would be

Stl trades- Thomas, 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd.

Mtl trades- pacioretty (50% retained)

Sharks trades- Joshua norris, 2018 1st, 2018 4th.

Mtl trades- Pacioretty (50% retained), plekanec (50% retained) .

11 Feb 2018 20:04:54
Why a center? Not needs to improve they're defense we have okay center can tho its also a need Phoeing will be ready next year so we are not took badd.

11 Feb 2018 20:57:31
If the right deal doesn't come by the deadline maybe it will at the draft. there is no need to rush a trade with pacioretty.

11 Feb 2018 21:45:33
Mtl for life. Your not getting thomas. Armstrong has stated that several times.

11 Feb 2018 22:56:12
Habby, I totally agree. no need to rush a trade.

11 Feb 2018 23:28:05
Maybe but these are suggestions of what we need and what i think mtl would accept doesn't need to necessaraly be him.

12 Feb 2018 02:36:14
Don't care what you need. Your not getting him. So figure out some other centers.

12 Feb 2018 13:26:42
I would trade Patches before the deadline. He'll have more value than during the draft, since he'll be able to help on two playoff pushes. Having a guy on a 1yr deal is way less enticing.

10 Feb 2018 23:37:00
Tampa Bay: Stephans, Foote

Mtl: Patches

Fair price for a top line winger? And those two teams aren't scared of making deals

11 Feb 2018 03:13:29
I think Foote is in Tampa long term plan and Tampa won’t have the money to resign Patches.

11 Feb 2018 04:27:36
Tampa doesn't need Patches. They are going to use their big spending on a D man.

10 Feb 2018 16:10:02
Mtl: Plekanec
(Ufa so gone this summer)

Chi:Seabrook,Hartman

Mtl are TAKING a 7 million dollar contract but are getting a good rmyoung player to justify and to start rebuild)

10 Feb 2018 16:45:54
Hell no.

10 Feb 2018 17:57:54
So are another aging slow Dman for a long term expensive contract.
Honestly., dunno what Seabrook has left for contract. all I know, he was (is) a really good Dman, however he is starting to slow., and this shouldn't be the direction the Habs go in. but with Bergevin. anything is possible.

10 Feb 2018 19:10:56
Literally does not make any sense whatsoever for Montreal lol.

10 Feb 2018 19:40:37
Chicago would probably have to add a 1st and one or two good prospects to take seabrooks contract.6 years at 6.875 or something like that.

10 Feb 2018 23:42:30
Hartman isn't good enough to make taking on seabrooks contract worthwhile.

11 Feb 2018 03:16:47
Damn I thought Seebroke had a positive value.

 
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