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15 Aug 2018 20:48:34
Ottawa - Karlsson, Ryan, Pageau

Montreal - Patch, Alzner, Lernout and 4th round pick 2019

What more would Montreal have to add?

15 Aug 2018 21:20:39
A lot. like more than they ever would. Also one of habs best players, if not their best, is a top pair RHD. Why would they go for Karlsson?! Out of all the areas they need help in, that’s not it. They would give their whole future to a division rival an hour down the road and it wouldn’t help their team that much. Makes no sense.

15 Aug 2018 23:33:39
That's a lot of cap for montreal to take on but even still there is nothing of real value going back to ottawa only patches who would probably be there until the deadline this year.

16 Aug 2018 00:34:25
Even if Ottawa accepted this ridiculous proposal why would Montreal do it?
Canadiens need to tear it down and start again with good Draft Choices, not Drafting Brady Tkachuk wasn't a good start but they need to rebuild not retool.

11 Aug 2018 18:38:43
Columbus is in win now mode. But Panarin doesn't want to sign there. So trade him to Montreal for Pacioretty, and say a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Then you trade a top 6 winger for another older top 6 winger. So still in win now mode plus,couple picks or prospects whatever was involved in rest of trade. Montreal gets a point a game player and sign him for 6 years at 9 mill

11 Aug 2018 19:08:34
Lol. Both players only have one year left. And the difference between the two is a whole ton more than just "say a 2nd". Wow.

11 Aug 2018 19:14:05
This will only work if both players agree to sign long term and even then I don’t think it fits in with the habs re-tool as that contract you mentioned for Panarin is to costly for Habs to I just don’t see Habs doing this.

11 Aug 2018 22:30:23
Tortorella doesn't want patchs on his teams and pretty sure patch won't resign Thérèse.

12 Aug 2018 15:31:08
You call panarin a top 6 winger? I can see it with patch but panarin you must be talking in the league right? )

07 Aug 2018 23:29:46
Mtl- pacioretty-alzner


Buff- okposo-sobotka-girgenson

08 Aug 2018 04:39:56
If Montreal doesn’t want to pay Patches 7x7 like was reported, they definitely don’t want okposos 5years at $6 mill coming back.

08 Aug 2018 05:44:16
you're right jim, they wouldn't want a similar player on a better contract. can't argue with that.

08 Aug 2018 06:15:14
Okposo is not at all similar to Patch different caliber and styles.

08 Aug 2018 18:43:12
He’s a power forward with almost as big of contract as paccioretty wants and a massive health scare last year. And not a broken bone type thing, had head problems and was in intensive care in very rough shape. For a team that should be rebuilding and getting younger, committing to okposo seems counterproductive.

10 Aug 2018 19:28:21
Mtl would need to gain an asset in order to take Okposo's contract. I would definitely consider acquiring him if it means getting a a couple picks and maybe a decent prospect. Mtl would get some offense from Okposo even if it's at a steep price plus they would be getting good peaces I would hope. I wouldn't trade anything to get him tho or even get him and only get late picks. Need something of quality to take him imo. Still has more value then Bobby Ryan tho lol.

07 Aug 2018 22:01:09
St. Louis - Colton Parayko, Oskar Sundqvist
Montreal - Max Pacioretty, Charles Hudon

08 Aug 2018 00:36:41
This should be fun lol.

08 Aug 2018 02:11:02
Patch had only 1 year left, St. Louis probably can't keep him after that, so he's basically a rental. Hudon is nothing special, neither is sundqvist, but Parayko is a very good top 4 defender on a decent contract. So Hans definitely need to add, if St. Louis would even be up to trading parayko which I don't think they will.

08 Aug 2018 02:15:27
St. Louis declines but I also don’t think Montreal should make Hudon avalible.

08 Aug 2018 03:42:26
Is this Pinball?

08 Aug 2018 04:40:14
Easy no from St. Louis.

08 Aug 2018 19:01:23
yeah that's a big no thanks from the blues. No reason at all for this move. Armstrong made his team a contender. Made the center postion strong, Has strong D has potential scoring threats and some great depth. Only issue is which Jake allen is going to show up. The one that stole the wild series in the playoffs or the one who looked like dog poo. We shall see.

09 Aug 2018 03:24:49
Change your name to blue1 already.

10 Aug 2018 00:29:17
Why this is common since. Fyi no body ever talks about Detroit. They are both my teams.

07 Aug 2018 16:20:36
What if Mtl and Pittsburg made a deal?


Pitts:Sprong, Maata

Mtl: Patches, 2rd 2019

Would Pittsburg consider?

07 Aug 2018 16:34:48
I don’t think so. Pens can’t afford to trade def.

07 Aug 2018 16:37:24
Why would Habs?
I've been hearing about Sprong for what seems like forever, however. haven't seen him. And Maata isn't anything special
I'd rather get picks . after the Skinner deal, we aren't going to get the return we would all like to see. so., if they are going to rebuild. let em rebuild, Sprong and Maata aren't the peices I want to see in a rebuild.

07 Aug 2018 16:48:25
I’d say no from both. Habs would want/ need young talent and picks. Maata is just a good solid D. Would help a good team but habs won’t be able to get the most out of him for a cpl years atleast.

And penguins D is really weak after Letang. Plus Sprong has some upside that they hope will be cheap offense sooner than later.

07 Aug 2018 19:01:06
I like maata. I wouldn't mind this deal.

04 Aug 2018 18:26:33
Ottawa: Karlsson, Ryan, Smith
Vegas: 1st, Brannstrom, Legace and Theodore

Ottawa: Pageau
Montreal: Peca + 3rd 2019

Ottawa: Anderson + 3rd 2020
San Jose: Dell

are any of these close? what would you add or change?

04 Aug 2018 19:39:19
Karlsson trade I wouldn't touch with Ryan contract.

05 Aug 2018 06:28:31
If Vegas is taking on both ryan and smith, ottawa would be lucky to get a first plus, no way they would get theodore.

03 Aug 2018 03:27:53
Mtl- patch-weber-lindgren-scherbak

Ott -karlsson-stone-ryan


Im dreaming on lol

03 Aug 2018 14:35:20
You're right it is a dream. Not even close to realistic.

04 Aug 2018 15:41:57
Ottawa adds. Karlsson=Patch+Lindgren. Stone=weber+scherbak. Ryan

28 Jul 2018 05:19:40
Islanders: Ryan Pulock, 2nd 2019, 3rd 2019

Montreal: Pacioretty.

29 Jul 2018 15:45:08
It's really not bad. I think the habs would prefer a lhd though.

30 Jul 2018 00:51:57
Bad for NYI.

30 Jul 2018 13:51:10
I'd do it for pulock tbh.

30 Jul 2018 13:52:04
Good for both sides imo. i'm a mlt fan that's really like Patches although I think him being stranded for guy younger defensemen wouldn't be a bad thing.

26 Jul 2018 02:21:34
Mtl- patch lindgren 2nd pick


Minn parise 25% coyle 1st pick

26 Jul 2018 10:24:40
I think that Parise contract is a dealbreaker even with 25% salary retention.

26 Jul 2018 15:43:33
Agreed with Benn that’s a terrible contract debatably even worse then Lucic and Seabrook.

28 Jul 2018 07:41:53
@Benn: It definitely should be, on the other hand Bergevin tho.

23 Jul 2018 23:33:56
MON: Gallagher
WPG: Perrault

24 Jul 2018 04:14:09
Why on earth would Montreal even consider that? Gallagher is probably the best player they have.

24 Jul 2018 13:37:19
I can't see the Habs ever making this trade. Gallagher is younger, cheaper and tougher than Perreault and should bring something better in return.

25 Jul 2018 11:33:34
Ya no thanks from me unless Jacob Trouba is part of the deal.

21 Jul 2018 16:05:39
MTL - Max Pacioretty (re-signed), Schlemko, 2nd round pick

MIN - Brodin, Coyle

21 Jul 2018 19:42:49
Yah this is a big no from Minnesota. Brodin>1 year of Patches.

21 Jul 2018 20:06:26
He just said resigned why would it be 1 year?

21 Jul 2018 21:21:59
Probably would have to be a better price than schlemko. Maybe Scherbak or lehkonen.

21 Jul 2018 23:21:58
Even resigned that’s still a no from Minnesota. Brodin is extremely underrated obviously.

23 Jul 2018 15:55:53
How can you be "extremely underrated, obviously. "? If it is obvious what he is worth, wouldn't he be rated appropriately? Maybe not extremely appropriately, but possibly, relatively accurately - if it is obvious.
Joking aside, I'd take it from Montreal - I think Miny would decline but not far off. Depends on what patches resigns for to be honest, i think that would really determine what the other pieces would be going back.

21 Jul 2018 09:21:46
Two Anaheim trades making both teams better (IMO)

Trade 1:
CBJ - Panarin
ANA - Silfverberg, Ritchie, Welinski, Conditional 3rd (2nd if Panarin signs extension with ANA)

Trade 2:
MTL - Pacioretty
ANA - Silfverberg, Pettersson, Conditional 3rd (2nd if extension is signed)

21 Jul 2018 15:02:20
Huge no from Columbus and Montreal.

21 Jul 2018 15:25:45
Maybe from Montreal but defiant no from Columbus.

21 Jul 2018 21:30:54
Pacioretty: 2017-2018 17G 20A 37P -16, $4.5MM UFA 2019, age 29
Silfverberg: 2017-2018 18G 27A 45P E, $3.75MM UFA 2019, age 27

Why would Anaheim even add to a straight swap?

Pacioretty has onerous contract demands ($8MM x 8 years) . He has a chip on his shoulder for signing a team friendly contract with Montreal and wants his next contract to pay back some of the value he gave away on his last one. I wouldn't touch that baby with a 10 foot pole or at best view him as a rental.

PS If you tell me to look back at his previous years, fine. I see his stats. But players are paid for future performance, not past performance, and Pacioretty's terrible season last year killed his trade value. If you're still unconvinced, you can have Seabrook.

22 Jul 2018 07:47:03
Yeah, def not a deal MTL says no to.

23 Jul 2018 04:23:35
no from columbus on first
no from anaheim on second.

17 Jul 2018 20:29:46
MON: Pacioretty
CHI: Boqvist, 2nd Round Pick 2019

17 Jul 2018 21:57:01
Hahahahahahahaha oh man. No from Chicago.

18 Jul 2018 03:22:59
no. hell no from chicago. are you drunk? take out the second and add from there from montreal if you want boqvist.

18 Jul 2018 05:39:49
Whoever thinks Chicago should take this should re-evaluate themselves lol.

18 Jul 2018 12:07:54
Add from mtl? You are kidding. pacioretty. who in last 5 yrs has more goals than kessel. , neal or van reimsdyk for a guy no one knows?

18 Jul 2018 12:54:49
@Balsam. Boqvist was just drafted 8th overall and at seasons end in April, he was ranked #9 on the ISS draft rankings. At the same time, kotkaniemi was ranked 18th. So would you trade him and a pick for a 1 year of an almost 30 year old coming off an awful year?! Because 2 months ago, no one besides really informed people knew him either.

18 Jul 2018 14:18:33
Balsam is the Montreal Rambo. Maybe when you don’t know who the players are in a trade proposal, you should keep your comments to yourself.

15 Jul 2018 10:48:40
Habs: Max Pacioretty
Flyers: Samuel Morin, Dale Weise, 2019 first, 2020 conditional 3 round pick
Condition: If he re-signs or not

15 Jul 2018 23:17:36
Honestly I’d say no from Montreal but I have no idea what patches will get as a return.

16 Jul 2018 01:27:52
I’d take that if I was the habs!

16 Jul 2018 17:27:56
Patches is a really interesting one. I see trade offers all over the map that I could realistically see as being close. Like mcjesus said, I have no idea either what his real value is. But atleast the habs seem to be showing some patience to get the best for him rather than getting hosed like hoffman.

18 Jul 2018 12:14:51
Lol on the kapanen for Morin trade.

15 Jul 2018 00:27:55
Three-way trade, not necessary but might speed things up.
Chicago fans want Panarin back and it seems that maybe he wants to go back.

Pacioretty is not been offered an extension by the Habs and is on the trading block.

Chicago --> Panarin, 3rd round pick 2019(From Blue Jackets)

CBJ --> Pacioretty, Nicolas Beaudin (From Chicago) and 1st round pick (From Chicago)

MTL --> Liam Foudy, 2nd (2020) and 4th round pick (2019) (from Blue Jackets)

Look, If you guys might tell what you would change, I'd appreciate it! For me, I think it looks good, I'm no GM but I want respectful and constructive comments! Thanks

15 Jul 2018 03:55:55
Overall not terrible. Although, Columbus easily gets the best return, I think montreal would want something a lil bit more (say a more proven prospect than foody).

15 Jul 2018 04:53:49
Habs need more of a return on Pacioretty.

17 Jul 2018 01:06:24
if chicago doesn't bounce back and have a kick ass season like their old form i can see them being bottom 15 again, with chance at lottery pick, i don't know about potential top 10 draft pick for panarin, unless we put lottery protection on the pick.

14 Jul 2018 01:35:55
EDM: Puljujärvi, Nurse, Lucic
MON: Pacioretty, Weber

14 Jul 2018 13:19:57
Mtl don't need another bust ( Puljujarvi) they need actual impact players which Nurse is but not worth giving up on Price and Weber for 1 guy. Lucic is a good third line winger and is worth a lot to a team if he's being paid 2 million. So that's a huge no from mtl.

14 Jul 2018 14:23:25
But the proposed deal isn't even for Price and Weber.

14 Jul 2018 15:23:43
It's a No from Habs., however Colt, how can ups call Puljujarvi a bust? And where did Price come from in this trade?

14 Jul 2018 15:56:36
No from habs Patches> Pulj and Lucic.
Weber>>>Nurse.

14 Jul 2018 23:37:47
At this point I’d say nurse > Weber lol Weber can’t even skate yet.

14 Jul 2018 23:58:27
Habs would deffenly take this pul for patch nurse lucic for weber weber on a worse contract and i bet the rest of his he be hurt 80 percent of the time.

15 Jul 2018 01:07:11
Yah he's healthy for almost his whole career. Gets one injury ( not to serious) gets surgery and is fully healthy then all the sudden he’s out 80% of the time? 🤔 hmm makes sense. Replace Weber’s feet with Cement blocks and he’s still one of the best dman in the nhl due to his IQ, Shot and Physcaity. He’s the type of player to age gracefully.

15 Jul 2018 03:20:11
Weber is a stud, I’d love him on the leafs. Unfortunately, in the cap era his value is not where it should be.

15 Jul 2018 03:45:33
I love Shea Weber, and that’s from an accused ‘Hab hater’. I just don’t like his contract, and that’s enough to ruin a players value weather you like to admit it or not. If he was signed to 4more years at 7 mill or 5 years at 6 mill I would trade Nylander for him, or liljegren, Bracco ans a 1st. But till he’s 41?! No thanks.

15 Jul 2018 14:56:24
Unbiased Jim right now he’s a 9 million dollar player and when he starts to age he’ll still be able to play 20 + minutes a night on both special teams. I’m one of the “ few “ who don’t mind his contract due to salary cap rises and If he retires Nashville endures the cap penalty. Also in the last 3 years of his contract his actually salary is 1 million so cap floor rebuilding teams would love him so he’d be easy to trade. Imagine that shot from the point on the leafs PP or the presence on the PK.

15 Jul 2018 15:42:14
He would be easy to trade? If the guys 37 or 38 and hasn’t won a cup yet, you think he’s waiving to go to a rebuilding team again so you can win a cup without him?! And saying ‘when he starts to age” like it hasn’t already happened. he's turning 33 in a few weeks and has now had a cpl knee surgeries since he last played. I wanna see him play for a while before I’d trade for him to see what we would be buying, and the problem with that is by missing half this season atleast by the time he plays 30-40 games to show, he will be another year older.

15 Jul 2018 19:17:52
I don't think he has to accept a trade does he jim? i don't think he has any type of no movement clause in his deal. I could be wrong I never checked it out as I had no interest in him being traded.

15 Jul 2018 23:26:48
He dosent have a no movement clause and that’s a fair point with seeing him play after injury.

13 Jul 2018 21:46:10
Montreal:
Leon Draisaitl C (8.5x7yrs)
Milan Lucic LW (6x5yrs)
Jesse Puljujarvi LW (1x1yr)
Cam Talbot G (4.6x1yr)
Evan Bouchard D (2018 draft)

Edmonton:
Carey Price G (10.5x8yrs)
Max Pacioretty LW (4.5x1yr)
Karl Alzner D (4.6x4yrs)

13 Jul 2018 21:58:01
Hahahahaha dream on habfan.

13 Jul 2018 22:24:57
Wow did hand rebuild in just one lopsided trade. lol.

13 Jul 2018 22:33:26
Was this for real or just for a laugh?

13 Jul 2018 22:58:55
Lucic + Puljujarvi = Pacioretty
Draisaitl >> Price
Talbot > Alzner
Bouchard >>>>> 0

The only benefit for the Oil is they get out of Lucic’s contract. They also get a top goalie and a good winger but both there contracts aren’t ideal. They also gain another expensive top 6 D they don’t need. Oil give up there top end young players and don’t get any better.

13 Jul 2018 23:20:42
Bergavin says no thank you.

14 Jul 2018 07:36:00
Horrible trade for EDM.

14 Jul 2018 11:03:22
Lmao this would be a easy yes for habs this is so one sided.

14 Jul 2018 12:29:57
I was being sarcastic. This is so delusional.

15 Jul 2018 15:42:55
Oh la la.

12 Jul 2018 21:50:13
Hawks traded Hossa’s contract to Arizona.

Hawks now have $8.5mill cap space for this season.

Have been talking to habs about paccioretty (1yr $4.5 mill)

And hurricanes about Skinner (1 yr $5.75 mill)

See which way they go.

12 Jul 2018 22:06:43
Don’t forget Panarin apparently he wants to return.

12 Jul 2018 22:46:35
I could see Panarin. I think he was upset when they traded him. Get back on his old line and light it up.

13 Jul 2018 13:34:35
i'd love to see skinner and/ or panarin (again) in a chicago jersey.

14 Jul 2018 07:37:10
Panarin won't fit in their cap plans. Yes, they have 8.5m space but they need to sign at least 3 more F and 1 more D.

14 Jul 2018 16:02:04
They’d need to get creative but it could work.

12 Jul 2018 21:36:29
Mtl:Pacioretty,3rd round pick
Edm: Nugent-Hopkins


Edmonton gets a good top 6 winger to play with Mcdavid or Draisaitl
Edmonton would have excellent wingers in Yamamoto, Puljujarvi,Pacioretty

Montreal get a good top 6 center who can produce and is good defensively
Mtl will have Nugent-Hopkins, Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Phil Danault as centers

12 Jul 2018 21:53:38
Oilers fans won't like this. Also, i think Kotk should not be in the NHL yet.

12 Jul 2018 22:40:25
Excellent wingers? They’re better off with RNH and the 2 unproven, excellent wingers.

12 Jul 2018 22:43:01
I agree with thunder. If he was on a team deeper at his position where he could be insulated a bit, it would be okay. Nuge would do that a bit, but I still don’t think that’s putting the kid in a position to have success. If he has a slow transition to North America and the NHL game and struggles, he will have a tough time progressing there. Be patient with him, it’s not like him being in the lineup is the difference between the habs being a contender and not.

11 Jul 2018 21:05:29
Three way deal

Karlsson
Pacioretty
Alzner to Canucks


Montreals 2019 1st,Victor Mete
Vancouvers 2019 1st,2020 2nd, and Joulevi
to Ottawa


Brandon Sutter, Gudbranson to Montreal

11 Jul 2018 21:15:16
Hahahaha. Wtf.
You're going to get some screaming form Habs fans. This is absolutely laughable from a Habs stand point.
Pacioretty, 2019 1st, Mete, Alzner for Sutter and Gudbranson? Lmao
Karlsson for ALL that? What are you smoking.

11 Jul 2018 21:36:44
so @Thatguy can you justify how Habs profit from this?

Like they trade a consistent 30+ goal, 60+ point guy, a possible top
10 pick, there best D-prospect and maybe an overpaid D but not a terrible one and get an injury pron 3rd-line C and a replacement for Alzner.

Because I can not see any profit from this.

13 Jul 2018 13:45:13
ottawa takes this and runs
vancouver laughs to the bank
montreal cries into a poutine
why would montreal do this. at all?

13 Jul 2018 16:14:25
Canucks would laugh... far in the phone then hang up... why would a rebuilding team take patches... and EK the main trade prices.....

20 Jul 2018 14:47:58
Unless montreal and vancouver are both lottery teams in next offseason this deal is horrible for the sens.

Who the heck is mate and jolevi? Honestly.

 
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